@@nathanarmaing5575 Depends. Is it a sheep in lion's skin, or a lion in sheep's skin? If it's the latter, then it was never truly a sheep to begin with.
Also, I have a headcanon where Apollyon, the Warden, the Raider, and the Orochi are supposed to represent the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Apollyon is War, obviously. The Warden would be Conquest because he helped conquer the Vikings. The raider is Pestilence because they were left sick and starving after the knights came. And the Orochi is death, because the Orochi is, according to game lore, the assassins of the samurai caste. I could be wrong, but I like it when games like this use apocalyptic symbolism like that.
not a pro gamer Honestly... that isn't a bad idea. We can see how deadly she was for a Criminal and becoming a Warden. Story-Wise, it would bring decent story and lore for a rather lore-lacking game with a poor story
Atomic Gameplay I wish there was a choice as who to play for the final mission. Like 5 endings. Pick one faction to win solely or have peace. Or have Appolyon win playing as her.
I think there should have been a prologue chapter. It should have focused on Apollyon's experience during that raid and showed why she had her ideology, shoving it behind collectibles means a player can miss her story like I did at first. That's why I originally thought Apollyon was a poorly done villain at first. Cool looking but lacking depth or reason. A prologue where you play as a young Apollyon watching her friends and family be slaughtered would have given you some sympathy for her and would have provided the opportunity for a fake out' making you think she just wants revenge on the Vikings only to then reveal her true intentions.
Storm Ninja I always saw her like this, just without the lore. I thought she was right, people are warlike in naturr and that hiding from it with peace will only make us weaker.
@@dropout2804 yes. so? why do we need to be strong? If there wasnt any war, there would be no need for strong soldiers since we conquered every other predator with intelligence. Strength for srengths sake isnt worth anything
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 but war strengthens the economy and can give people purpose. Without any strong war-like people, leaders and people of power can take advantage of a peaceful society by limited the rights of the citizens. If the citizens are strong and ready to fight then it would be hard for leaders and governments to become corrupt beccause they would have to worry about people rebeling. (Just playing devil's advocate)
A very good analysis, though I would contest your final point that Apollyon's end goal was proving to the young girl who saw her village destroyed that she was strong. Apollyon in another observable notes that she does not blame the common people for being sheep - as long as they do not hide from that fact. Personally, I think she understood if nothing else that some would be sheep, but just like a herd of real sheep supplies a lot to their owners so to do those workers provide for the warriors - they just need to acknowledge it. I do think that Apollyon may have had your theory lingering, but I do not believe trying to prove herself strong was the sole thing she wanted. Ultimately I think she just wanted to tear away what she felt was a cover for an ugly reality - look at her thoughts on Ayu, practically dismissing Ayu's stated motivation of wanting to unite the Chosen in their darkest hour and instead believing it that Ayu was a power hungry warlord who happened to have the opportunity to put that into an acceptable context and murder her rivals. She probably expected the Blackstones would have everyone line up to hit them, but she probably had hoped that the tensions would stay - I mean, look at how murderous the Orochi was to the Warden for no reason. Admittedly, the Orochi seems to not understand that there was more than just one Legion, and the Legion and Chosen siege forces were at a cease fire when Apollyon died. If not for the Vikings (those legendary shit starters), they may have walked away with an uneasy peace. But then the Vikings showed up and not realizing it was a third party attacking, soldiers on both sides assumed betrayal even as the commanders tried to stop it - the shot heard 'round the world, basically. No one knew what it was, everyone assumed the worst and engaged. That was what Apollyon sought - and she probably hoped the Vikings would show up to disorganize her foes; the question then being what then. Overall a good commentary and pretty insightful, well done. I just had some specific disagreements, but that doesn't make it a worse analysis necessarily. Just different views.
Well, as long as you enjoyed the video and maybe got something out of it, then I am happy. These are after all, first and foremost, entertainment videos, rather than educational ones.
"Ayu was a power hungry warlord who happened to have the opportunity to put that into an acceptable context and murder her rivals." Yes, she was. Although she said differrent, her deeds made that fact pretty clear.
She was so into her own ambitions that she prefers let the vikings escape. She thinks very highly of herself compared to other Daimyo, and don't forget Apollyon commentaries in second samurai mission (observables). Even she admit that Ayu is ruthless and hungers for power. Why other Daimyo was worse? They just lost.
Alien_Castle Well, Apollyon could be wrong about her. I mean she did think the samurai civil war would last years and not days. She also hadn't expected the infighting between viking factions to be so short lived either. And if Ayu truly was power hungry and war thirsty, why did she appear at the post game confrence between the faction leaders?
I think she is the main character and the good guy, her goal is to kill the sheep and leave the wolves so no one would be powerless anymore and she accomplished her goals. There are three main factions now of samurai, knights, and vikings and they all are strong and able to protect their people. She didn't want anyone to go through what she went through as a child so she kills the sheep and leaves the wolves. She has good intentions and like Mystery Man said, she is like Thanos and both of them completed her goal. She is the good guy and she is amazing with an amazing back story. Well that's what I think at least
Sure Apollyon is the main but calling her a ''good guy'' is shitting on this beautiful plot that was explained before you , she is a character with personality problems , girl inside only wants to protect yet the armor wants the sheeps to die. By sheeps we mean people like you , fat clumsy villagers who can't hold a sword properly. At the age of wolves 95% of us wouldn't have a place unless we were wishing to murder for the sake of doing it. Apollyon is a murderer who respects other murderers basically and calling her a good guy would make me question your morales.
@@mehmetcaneren4042 you literally just called called that guy a fat sheep and referred to yourself as a wolf. I think instead of Apollyon, YOU have the personality issues. Narcisistic fuckhead
Quotes from the game “Your men don’t have to die” “How do you tell a predator from a prey? You can’t.” “You...are....my....wolves” “The Vikings raid villages, we will turn the tables” “Fight you? That’s not a trial, that’s a execution” Idk anymore so final one *DAUBENY*
RoC Wrestling RIP a good story. He had nothing to say in the slightest to say it was dead or had a dead player base; you completely misread what, in your words was a ‘smartass comment’. You obviously didnt understand his comment.
I’m from the future and want to inform you, that after 3 years we can FINALLY play as an Apollyon.... and she’s fire. Also, buy her finishing strike for 10k points cause she differentiates wolf from sheep there.
I have a For Honor theory about apollyons armor and moveset, is that its made out of foes armor sets of most the For Honor classes classes, that of she has taken from skilled warriors and fused it with the lawbringer armor she had previously : Her Helmet: a Valkyrie (due to the eye silts and shape is from a epic valkyrie armor set), Warden (due to the shape) also it has a Plume that exactly like a Raider set. Her Arms: a conqueror (for her left sholder is ) a Warlord, and a Gladiator (for her right shoulder) Her chest: this is the only known part that survived from the lawbringer she has killed Her Cape:Centurion (in the story mode she states she has met them, even fought them, so a cape from one would make a good trophy) Her Legs: Very viking based: Raider, warlord or a shaman Her sword: Very similar to a Warlord set and Her fighting style is like a fusion between a Centurions unblockables, a wardens base movesets, a Raiders large sweeping motions, a lawbringers parry punish and (i might go a tad bit off here) a Gladiators long chains or a conquerors infinte chain this is backed up by her background with Vikings and other Knights and the fact she keeps banners of defeated factions all around her castle, so with this armor comes not only a aura of intimidation for she has killed all of the warriors shown above and wears their armor as trophies, but also her fighting styles too. and you, a samurai, a brand new opponent on the Battleground, a brand new set of armor to add to her own.
She’s mostly a mix of Warden and Lawbringer from the helmet to the shin plates and kama/leather skirt and cape from the looks of it but Warden does have some bulky shoulders and streamlined gauntlets too
It's a solid theory, unfortunately Ubisoft released an armor set for Lawbringer during Marching Fire and it's similar Apollyion's armor. I think they made the armor of the original or older armor designs
Intro analysys :tell the greatest achivment they have done KNIGHTS : protectors and honor VIKINGS : raiders and adveturous AND FINNALY SAMURAIS : ANIMEEE 😂😂😂😂
that feeling when you click on King J and find like 4 unwatched videos That CGI trailer they did for the game with three guys fighting for water was super poignant. The game had some interesting ideas.
Actually, I think you may have overcomplicated it a bit. In my opinion, Apollyon's philosophy can be summed up by the saying; "Hard times breed rough men. Hard men bring soft times. Soft times breed soft men. Soft men bring rough times." I think in her mind, she believes that peace serves only to weaken humanity as a whole, giving way to this endless cycle where the strong become weak. She witnessed first hand what that weakness wrought. The Lawbringer and the iron legion were too cowardly to defend her people, and her people too weak to fight back. This gave birth to her belief that man's natural state is war. That life is supposed to be a constant struggle for survival, and by removing that struggle, we simply waste away, until the next war comes and the cycle begins anew and that peace is nothing more than a hopeless fantasy. For instance, note her last words "All I want is for you to admit what you are...my wolves." Notice, she doesn't just refer to them as wolves, like she did with others who passed her test but as her wolves. This indicates, to me at least, just how futile she thinks the hero's goals of peace are. By calling them her wolves she's not just saying that they passed her test, but it is for that very reason that they cannot have peace. Because in passing the test, they have proved that they are just like her, and because of that they stand in the way of their own peace. Think about it, the Warden, the Raider, and the Orochi have all gotten to where they are by killing those that would not join them, just like Apollyon. Now, by killing her, the wolves now hold the power. The Warden is head of the iron legion, the Raider is the leader of his clan, and Ayu, another one who passed Apollyon's test, is the Emperor. Now, with Apollyon gone, there is somewhat of a power vacuum which they've all come to fill. The only thing they need to do is lay down their arms. But they are wolves, not sheep, and a wolf does not give up his fangs. As we see in the ending cinematic, the knights and samurai are on the verge of ending the fighting, they want peace. But they can't do it. Not just because the Vikings crashed the party, but because it's not in their nature. They could have come together and fought off the Vikings as one, but they didn't. Instead, they fought each other. The Vikings were just an excuse to keep fighting. "Ah," you might say. "Then why did she shelter all the civilians in her castle? Surely it was for mercy." Perhaps. Perhaps she was trying to satisfy some urge to set herself apart from the lawbringer that condemned her people. But I think not. We are told in the mission prior to the final battle that Apollyon's war had left the economy neglected, and the countryside was overcome by bandits. So the people probably gradually moved to the city because it was more protected. Furthermore, I wouldn't exactly call trapping all of your citizens in the middle of a siege a mercy, especially since it was obvious that the attacking forces did not have a quarrel with the people of Ashfell, just Apollyon. No, I think that it was another one of her tests. She wanted all of mankind to be strong. She'd put every faction through endless suffering, except hers. Only the strong would survive the siege and make it out alive, while the weak would perish, as they surely would anyway.
This is the first time I've seen your videos, they are very interesting and added a lot of depth to the For Honor campaign that I thought was lacking in the game.
Thank you! I love Apollyon, my favorite lady ever now. One bad mamajama, her armor is cool, her lore is awesome and I'd side with her in the story just cause I adore her so much. Yeah, little too much adoring but fuck it.
President Fett I certainly wouldn't mind working *under* Apollyon if you catch my drift😏😏😏 Helmet on though thats the only way. She has no face, under that helmet is another helmet.
I don't know if I'd be worthy but I'd work under Apollyon. Funny thing is her ethos does have advantages. She always tries to spare and hire the strongest of her enemies which means her soldiers are indebted to her for sparing their lives and incredibly strong.
I think her death was horrible. It should have been her saying her speeches, and her final words as: "My... Wolfes..." But instead of just falling to the ground, which is boring, a catapult shot appers, and she is sallowed by flame in slow motion. Her burning corspe falls down her castle, and her helm remains at the orochi's feet.
It took me a moment to remember where the music at 15:39 was from, and I gotta say that's a nice little touch you added there with "Lord of the Black Stone"!
BROOOO i love you man XDD, i love the not taking yourself too seriously with a deep review on their character. insight disguised as goofy. well done man. WELL DONE! Kepp pushing man youll break the mainstream
i love Apollyon's armor i just hate the eye sockets also i thought she was a viking at one point like her hair looks like a vikings. This video kinda made me like Apollyon even more
So you do live?... I was worried that I'd have to call in some favors to send in an SAS squad to check if you've been abducted by the Orochi weeb swarm.
"An what of the knights? they're protectors, arent they? Well... most of the time." *shows clip from kindom of heaven* "DEUSVULTDEUSVULTDEUSVULTDEUSVULT!!!"
I hate that the Samurai had the spotlight in the story. The Warden you play as, yeah he should had been the one to kill Apollyon. The Samurai dude just comes out of nowhere and suddenly becomes her killer. The Warden, he's the best fighter in the story. Seriously that dude should have had more game time, he was so badass.
Not only that as he had *reason* to fight Apollyon himself She made him commit horrifying atrocities, from starvations, to what was almost genocide and used him as an instrument to sow war amongst post-Cataclysm Europe The samurai just comes out of nowhere and "hey we'll be the only ones to get closure you tin cans" and the story ends in the game Really sad that the Warden couldn't get his revenge, I say.
Thinking about Apollyon years later I realized that she really isn't a villain per say don't get me wrong she does very villainous things but ultimately for a very understandable reason when you think about. If she truly wanted to conquer and control everything she could have easily done it swiftly but she didnt because her whole concept of war and peace is what makes her do what she does. That being she wants to keep the nations fighting to keep a balance between if one side gets too high she would try to rebalance it to keep the conflict constant. Think about it in real life, for all of history there's has been violence and war for every thing but by war being continueous its keeping balance, sure there will be alliances here and there but at some point they will break it and go back to their own ways again hence keeping a cycle and balance, its just like what happened with America and Russia, the two nations worked together but after WW2 they immediately started fighting each other. But lets say that peace does happen but for how long will it last, lets say that the Vikings have no food or if any faction is low on certain supplies, what makes them think that one of them is just going to give them away, because they wouldn't why help some other people who are low on supplies just like you, you will usually help your own. So in reality Apollyon was the one keeping things a balance as a whole. You need to keep a balance if you want anything to work out, you can't let one side teeter to far. But again its just an opinion
The reason why she wants war is because... well it's human. Humanity is basically a backstabbing B****. Smiling like friends, yet the moment you turn your back you can wait a knife in your back. She wants people to embrace that side of humanity and not being hypocrites about it, and thus the strong one will raise and stand up for themselves before humanity turns weaker and weaker. " I want you to recognise who you really are "- Apollyon.
Apollyon isn't a sadist but other than that they are pretty much the same. They were both raised with the mindset of ''survival of the fittest'' Both of their village was destroyed because they were considered ''weak'' They both killed and forced their way to the position of power. And lastly they both made a last stand against a girl with a katana.(depends if you chose a girl orochi.) So yeah they are pretty much the same.
When the game came out a lot of people complained about the story mode lacking any depth...and while...yes it is brief I beg to disagree. It has as much depth as you are willing to give it. It's made to make you think. Was she right? Was she wrong? The story mode of For Honor sparked a philosophical debate inside me as soon as I saw the ending. For the longest of times i assumed that Apollyon was some kind of twisted nihilist, but your approach to it brings valuable food for thought.
No... she just wanted to show how Violent Humans are, even though we hide behind a "smile". We are monsters, but we should not hide our violence and the love and admiration for it, but embrace it.
Christopher Jones true. I likened get to the joker because of how both cause chaos arround them and infect others with it to prove a point. To show every one just how violent and blood thirsty they truly are and all it takes is a bad day, a push on the wrong direction.
Jose Ssegovia ok so this is what I'm getting, she was not a good guy, only to prove that us as humans has a need to kill, but that she also has a very tragic backstory that we will need to respect?
I don't know if anyone will read this, but looking back at this video it is very plausible that astrea was a survivor of the attack onto the castle, most likely looking up to wolfmommy as a hero( since she was the defender of the castle and essentialy the people inside it) and years later decided to follow her steps, forming the cult of horkos we're seeing now. .....and it maybe have been apollyon's back up plan too, since it was not garanteed that the war would last decades...
i think its safer to assume that she lead the ppl into the castle so that when they evtl would get massacred, it would give the remaining knight factions a more compelling reason to attack viks and samus....
I could just stop watching anything else after that beginning, nothing will ever fill the void again
subscribed immediately
Lako111 yes
Lako111 the samurai....just so much Japan!
Same.
I’m a samurai that was hard to watch
"I do not fear an army of Lions led by a Sheep, I fear an army of Sheep led by a Lion." -Alexander the Great
Teutonicus Maximus what about an army of lions led by lions? Would he have just ditched that shit and skiddaddled out?
i mean a leader with strong courage is better than other
If a sheep manages to lead and control an army of lions you should realy be scarred
@@nathanarmaing5575 Depends. Is it a sheep in lion's skin, or a lion in sheep's skin? If it's the latter, then it was never truly a sheep to begin with.
Nathan Armaing right?! I mean how bad ass was that sheep?? Lol
In my own personal opinion: Apollyon is one of the best female villans to ever exist.
I agree she makes the for honor story really interesting and everything about her is just awesome
Screw that, best VILLAINS ever.
Liam Odahl I’m guessing you are grinding to make Apollyon warmonger
@@Xuisite
Absofuckin'lutely.
@@liamodahl1205 Damn, I have to wait 2 weeks to actually play her
"And finally, the samurais"
[Anime music starts]
Me- Sugoi…
subarashi
d3pr3553d weeb yes. You are disgusting
S A M U R A I Y O U C U C K
I think it describes you samurais perfectly
Nico Velardita samurai jack
Who else was kinda sad killing the Viking chief with warden?
Yeah, me...
I was sad I killed the pups
@@williamarbor7080 I hated killing them too :( And i didn´t even want to kill the chief. What cruel things did Apollyon makes do...
It was satisfying. But poor doggos 😥
Zekor I didn't kill any, I didn't know I could lock onto them
Also, I have a headcanon where Apollyon, the Warden, the Raider, and the Orochi are supposed to represent the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Apollyon is War, obviously. The Warden would be Conquest because he helped conquer the Vikings. The raider is Pestilence because they were left sick and starving after the knights came. And the Orochi is death, because the Orochi is, according to game lore, the assassins of the samurai caste. I could be wrong, but I like it when games like this use apocalyptic symbolism like that.
That's a good analysis
I thought Famine, not conquest was a horseman. Gudmundr would repreaent Famine, since his fort housed the food the knights burned.
Famine isn't a horseman?
@@dag_will2615 No famine is a horseman
@@thegreatkingdedede7391 raider not gudmundr
Player name: Apolyon
Reasion for ban: team killing
Team chat: Wow! Wow! Good fight!
Pp
They should make a dlc of Apollyon past and we get to play as her
not a pro gamer Honestly... that isn't a bad idea. We can see how deadly she was for a Criminal and becoming a Warden. Story-Wise, it would bring decent story and lore for a rather lore-lacking game with a poor story
I wish i could fight as her shes such a badass
Atomic Gameplay I wish there was a choice as who to play for the final mission. Like 5 endings. Pick one faction to win solely or have peace. Or have Appolyon win playing as her.
not a pro gamer I would love that
Only if they release a new "hero" based on the life as a criminal.
"You're a Raider. Legendary!"
CPU Zaffre (Praixz Zer0) god flashbacks to that oh no stop it
O U T S T A N D I N G
RAIDEEEEEEER
I love Apollyon. she's like the anti-Joan of arc.
Yup, its not her that the fire burn, but the priests that betrayed her.
I hate her
I'm going to start a religion based off of the spoiler warning in the beginning of this video.
What would it be called if you don't mind me asking?...
New Recruit Grimism, maybe?
Rick Berman McCallum and on the third day, they danced to banish the darkness, with dankness
King J. Grim
On the 4th day, it was discovered Batman was Bruce Wayne.
King J. Grim The king has spoken!
I think there should have been a prologue chapter. It should have focused on Apollyon's experience during that raid and showed why she had her ideology, shoving it behind collectibles means a player can miss her story like I did at first. That's why I originally thought Apollyon was a poorly done villain at first. Cool looking but lacking depth or reason. A prologue where you play as a young Apollyon watching her friends and family be slaughtered would have given you some sympathy for her and would have provided the opportunity for a fake out' making you think she just wants revenge on the Vikings only to then reveal her true intentions.
LoL.All of you also think that Dark Souls has no story.Fucking casuls.
God damn... That was one hell of an intro.
People have been asking for a spoiler warning, so here you go
In my game the main character of the knights is a boy same with the Vikings main character
Toomuch BS you can choose between male and female for all main characters
So Daubeny is the most virtuous character...
Daubeny is a memeXD
I'm awesome, aren't I?
DAUBENY
Ameliorate Gibberish DAUBENY SHOW YOURSELF
Daubeny your bronze armor looks good but you not even as a king
I wish we had the option to side with Appolyon.
A plethora of story paths would be fun
You stole my last name.
Give it back
I wish we threw her Dead body off the tower and then screamed "IM THE STRONGEST MAN ALIVE"
Well with how things are looking we might finally get that choice with her successors.
only if they knew we might actually get a character like her
this seriously made me look at apollyon in a new light
Glad you approve!
Storm Ninja then she should take off that armor
Storm Ninja I always saw her like this, just without the lore. I thought she was right, people are warlike in naturr and that hiding from it with peace will only make us weaker.
@@dropout2804 yes. so? why do we need to be strong? If there wasnt any war, there would be no need for strong soldiers since we conquered every other predator with intelligence. Strength for srengths sake isnt worth anything
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 but war strengthens the economy and can give people purpose. Without any strong war-like people, leaders and people of power can take advantage of a peaceful society by limited the rights of the citizens. If the citizens are strong and ready to fight then it would be hard for leaders and governments to become corrupt beccause they would have to worry about people rebeling. (Just playing devil's advocate)
A very good analysis, though I would contest your final point that Apollyon's end goal was proving to the young girl who saw her village destroyed that she was strong. Apollyon in another observable notes that she does not blame the common people for being sheep - as long as they do not hide from that fact. Personally, I think she understood if nothing else that some would be sheep, but just like a herd of real sheep supplies a lot to their owners so to do those workers provide for the warriors - they just need to acknowledge it.
I do think that Apollyon may have had your theory lingering, but I do not believe trying to prove herself strong was the sole thing she wanted. Ultimately I think she just wanted to tear away what she felt was a cover for an ugly reality - look at her thoughts on Ayu, practically dismissing Ayu's stated motivation of wanting to unite the Chosen in their darkest hour and instead believing it that Ayu was a power hungry warlord who happened to have the opportunity to put that into an acceptable context and murder her rivals. She probably expected the Blackstones would have everyone line up to hit them, but she probably had hoped that the tensions would stay - I mean, look at how murderous the Orochi was to the Warden for no reason. Admittedly, the Orochi seems to not understand that there was more than just one Legion, and the Legion and Chosen siege forces were at a cease fire when Apollyon died. If not for the Vikings (those legendary shit starters), they may have walked away with an uneasy peace.
But then the Vikings showed up and not realizing it was a third party attacking, soldiers on both sides assumed betrayal even as the commanders tried to stop it - the shot heard 'round the world, basically. No one knew what it was, everyone assumed the worst and engaged. That was what Apollyon sought - and she probably hoped the Vikings would show up to disorganize her foes; the question then being what then.
Overall a good commentary and pretty insightful, well done. I just had some specific disagreements, but that doesn't make it a worse analysis necessarily. Just different views.
Well, as long as you enjoyed the video and maybe got something out of it, then I am happy. These are after all, first and foremost, entertainment videos, rather than educational ones.
"Ayu was a power hungry warlord who happened to have the opportunity to put that into an acceptable context and murder her rivals." Yes, she was. Although she said differrent, her deeds made that fact pretty clear.
Alien_Castle I disagree. Looking at her compared to the other Daimyo, she was much more traditional of a Samurai.
She was so into her own ambitions that she prefers let the vikings escape. She thinks very highly of herself compared to other Daimyo, and don't forget Apollyon commentaries in second samurai mission (observables). Even she admit that Ayu is ruthless and hungers for power. Why other Daimyo was worse? They just lost.
Alien_Castle Well, Apollyon could be wrong about her. I mean she did think the samurai civil war would last years and not days. She also hadn't expected the infighting between viking factions to be so short lived either.
And if Ayu truly was power hungry and war thirsty, why did she appear at the post game confrence between the faction leaders?
Take a shot every time Apollyon says:
°War
°Wolves
°Sheep
*Dead*
she is the true main character lol
She is like thanos in infinity war (in meaning that he was the mc too)
I think she is the main character and the good guy, her goal is to kill the sheep and leave the wolves so no one would be powerless anymore and she accomplished her goals. There are three main factions now of samurai, knights, and vikings and they all are strong and able to protect their people. She didn't want anyone to go through what she went through as a child so she kills the sheep and leaves the wolves. She has good intentions and like Mystery Man said, she is like Thanos and both of them completed her goal. She is the good guy and she is amazing with an amazing back story. Well that's what I think at least
Sure Apollyon is the main but calling her a ''good guy'' is shitting on this beautiful plot that was explained before you , she is a character with personality problems , girl inside only wants to protect yet the armor wants the sheeps to die.
By sheeps we mean people like you , fat clumsy villagers who can't hold a sword properly.
At the age of wolves 95% of us wouldn't have a place unless we were wishing to murder for the sake of doing it.
Apollyon is a murderer who respects other murderers basically and calling her a good guy would make me question your morales.
@@mehmetcaneren4042 you literally just called called that guy a fat sheep and referred to yourself as a wolf. I think instead of Apollyon, YOU have the personality issues. Narcisistic fuckhead
@@JackMcCrack10 He literal said that him and that Guy would die lol.
Quotes from the game
“Your men don’t have to die”
“How do you tell a predator from a prey? You can’t.”
“You...are....my....wolves”
“The Vikings raid villages, we will turn the tables”
“Fight you? That’s not a trial, that’s a execution”
Idk anymore so final one
*DAUBENY*
"I don't speak japanese"
"RAIDERRRRRRR"
"You're a raider, legendary"
Daubeny! Daubeny show yourself!
If only Ubisoft had actually planned for a more in-depth story with this... RIP
RIP what exactly? The game is still going very strong today so I'm not sure what your smartass comment was about
RoC Wrestling RIP a good story. He had nothing to say in the slightest to say it was dead or had a dead player base;
you completely misread what, in your words was a ‘smartass comment’. You obviously didnt understand his comment.
Great game with a poor story, it’s clearly more multiplayer based. Story wasn’t awful or anything, but it just had tons of waisted potential.
It could've been like TF2
Awsome story with kickass multiplayer
But sadly wasted potential
@@stopyouneedhelp6115 "great game"
The game is terrible.
I’m from the future and want to inform you, that after 3 years we can FINALLY play as an Apollyon.... and she’s fire.
Also, buy her finishing strike for 10k points cause she differentiates wolf from sheep there.
Yeah, been a while since I've made a video. Sorry about that! Anyways, video every Sunday from now on again!
I was just thinking "he's gonna miss a chance for a darksiders reference" but you nailed it
Can we get a GIF of you in the spoiler intro; and put other shit in it?...
(I don't know what would fit but the internet will think of something)
Well... I mean I can upload me dancing like that somewhere. No idea where though
King J. Grim idk, try imgur or gyfcat
i wanna know as well
I have a For Honor theory about apollyons armor and moveset, is that its made out of foes armor sets of most the For Honor classes classes, that of she has taken from skilled warriors and fused it with the lawbringer armor she had previously :
Her Helmet: a Valkyrie (due to the eye silts and shape is from a epic valkyrie armor set), Warden (due to the shape) also it has a Plume that exactly like a Raider set.
Her Arms: a conqueror (for her left sholder is ) a Warlord, and a Gladiator (for her right shoulder)
Her chest: this is the only known part that survived from the lawbringer she has killed
Her Cape:Centurion (in the story mode she states she has met them, even fought them, so a cape from one would make a good trophy)
Her Legs: Very viking based: Raider, warlord or a shaman
Her sword: Very similar to a Warlord set
and Her fighting style is like a fusion between a Centurions unblockables, a wardens base movesets, a Raiders large sweeping motions, a lawbringers parry punish and (i might go a tad bit off here) a Gladiators long chains or a conquerors infinte chain
this is backed up by her background with Vikings and other Knights and the fact she keeps banners of defeated factions all around her castle, so with this armor comes not only a aura of intimidation for she has killed all of the warriors shown above and wears their armor as trophies, but also her fighting styles too. and you, a samurai, a brand new opponent on the Battleground, a brand new set of armor to add to her own.
alex valice well. Who doesn’t wear your enemies as armor.
She’s mostly a mix of Warden and Lawbringer from the helmet to the shin plates and kama/leather skirt and cape from the looks of it but Warden does have some bulky shoulders and streamlined gauntlets too
good, but Centurion and Gladiators were far away from the 3 factions land, they were with the Empire far away from this civil war
Since we got the new armour with Marching Fire, its guranteed its the Tormented Arbiter set from Lawbringer, with some kind of custom helm
It's a solid theory, unfortunately Ubisoft released an armor set for Lawbringer during Marching Fire and it's similar Apollyion's armor. I think they made the armor of the original or older armor designs
Has anyone realized Apollyon's clumsy move set is just like highlanders?
bukiri yeah
Well chief how’s the move set look now?
that intro.... pure genius
This was so well made, mad props. Loved everything done in the video.
But holy shit that Samurai intro caught me in stitches.
...gomenazai?
*DAUBENY SHOW URSELF* daubeny: *_REeEeEEeEEEEEEeEEeeeeeeEEEeeee_*
This is actually hilarious haha! You're a legend!
Sloth outstanding!
Intro analysys :tell the greatest achivment they have done
KNIGHTS : protectors and honor
VIKINGS : raiders and adveturous AND FINNALY
SAMURAIS : ANIMEEE
😂😂😂😂
"The knights are protectors, right?"
*Shows Kingdom of Heaven clip of knights defending Jerusalem*
Yes.
there is no words after that intro..... You just got a new sub
adding depth to a game that has none. ubi should hire you
Wouldn't that be a dream come true...
King J. Grim untill you join them and they disconnect you 20 times in a single work meeting.
It’s all in the game tho
It seems that the game has depth since one can delve so deep into Apollyon's character.
Timotej Hanaček yeah, right? Love how people shit on a game via the comment section of a video proving their own statement incorrect
"she would take mentos from those victories to her fortress"
im speechles...
The freshmaker
that feeling when you click on King J and find like 4 unwatched videos
That CGI trailer they did for the game with three guys fighting for water was super poignant. The game had some interesting ideas.
A TH-cam doing it again. If you haven't done it yet, I recommend pushing that bell button next to the sub thingy
Thanks for that, now I want to give Appolyon a hug.
i'd smash.Or or something... better.I mean...you know what i'm say.She's a pretty good Waifu material.
Shugoki is way more hot
Actually, I think you may have overcomplicated it a bit. In my opinion, Apollyon's philosophy can be summed up by the saying; "Hard times breed rough men. Hard men bring soft times. Soft times breed soft men. Soft men bring rough times." I think in her mind, she believes that peace serves only to weaken humanity as a whole, giving way to this endless cycle where the strong become weak. She witnessed first hand what that weakness wrought. The Lawbringer and the iron legion were too cowardly to defend her people, and her people too weak to fight back. This gave birth to her belief that man's natural state is war. That life is supposed to be a constant struggle for survival, and by removing that struggle, we simply waste away, until the next war comes and the cycle begins anew and that peace is nothing more than a hopeless fantasy. For instance, note her last words "All I want is for you to admit what you are...my wolves." Notice, she doesn't just refer to them as wolves, like she did with others who passed her test but as her wolves. This indicates, to me at least, just how futile she thinks the hero's goals of peace are. By calling them her wolves she's not just saying that they passed her test, but it is for that very reason that they cannot have peace. Because in passing the test, they have proved that they are just like her, and because of that they stand in the way of their own peace. Think about it, the Warden, the Raider, and the Orochi have all gotten to where they are by killing those that would not join them, just like Apollyon. Now, by killing her, the wolves now hold the power. The Warden is head of the iron legion, the Raider is the leader of his clan, and Ayu, another one who passed Apollyon's test, is the Emperor. Now, with Apollyon gone, there is somewhat of a power vacuum which they've all come to fill. The only thing they need to do is lay down their arms. But they are wolves, not sheep, and a wolf does not give up his fangs. As we see in the ending cinematic, the knights and samurai are on the verge of ending the fighting, they want peace. But they can't do it. Not just because the Vikings crashed the party, but because it's not in their nature. They could have come together and fought off the Vikings as one, but they didn't. Instead, they fought each other. The Vikings were just an excuse to keep fighting. "Ah," you might say. "Then why did she shelter all the civilians in her castle? Surely it was for mercy." Perhaps. Perhaps she was trying to satisfy some urge to set herself apart from the lawbringer that condemned her people. But I think not. We are told in the mission prior to the final battle that Apollyon's war had left the economy neglected, and the countryside was overcome by bandits. So the people probably gradually moved to the city because it was more protected. Furthermore, I wouldn't exactly call trapping all of your citizens in the middle of a siege a mercy, especially since it was obvious that the attacking forces did not have a quarrel with the people of Ashfell, just Apollyon. No, I think that it was another one of her tests. She wanted all of mankind to be strong. She'd put every faction through endless suffering, except hers. Only the strong would survive the siege and make it out alive, while the weak would perish, as they surely would anyway.
Dam, I just read the whole thing and I 100% agree with you
Khorne would welcome her with open arms.
Oh HELL Naw! Kaine has got her, you filthy mon'keigh
This is the first time I've seen your videos, they are very interesting and added a lot of depth to the For Honor campaign that I thought was lacking in the game.
Glad you found them amusing!
I heard it!!!!! Skyrim music😱😱😱
Your ears... I like them. They know good music!
King J. Grim thanks😂
King J. Grim skyrim=life
Potato Gaming and more ye
wait all started 20 years ago but she has 16 wat
She was 16 when she found the Lawbringer. But she tells the story long after becoming The Warlord of Blackstone
King J. Grim thanks for the answer
Althesky 606 she died at age 36
Adam Florholmen maybe
She's like 50
Want to hear a joke?
0:30
. . . How about another joke MurrAy?
Thank you! I love Apollyon, my favorite lady ever now. One bad mamajama, her armor is cool, her lore is awesome and I'd side with her in the story just cause I adore her so much. Yeah, little too much adoring but fuck it.
Hey, badass lady in badass Armour is always adorable
King J. Grim holy fuck, you replied. *[fangirl scream]* WHAT IS THIS REALITY!?
*sinkering*
President Fett
I certainly wouldn't mind working *under* Apollyon if you catch my drift😏😏😏
Helmet on though thats the only way. She has no face, under that helmet is another helmet.
I don't know if I'd be worthy but I'd work under Apollyon.
Funny thing is her ethos does have advantages. She always tries to spare and hire the strongest of her enemies which means her soldiers are indebted to her for sparing their lives and incredibly strong.
I think her death was horrible.
It should have been her saying her speeches, and her final words as:
"My... Wolfes..."
But instead of just falling to the ground, which is boring, a catapult shot appers, and she is sallowed by flame in slow motion. Her burning corspe falls down her castle, and her helm remains at the orochi's feet.
thats an impact.
Filip Paul-Johnsonn perfect ending idea👌👏
So she could have survived... oh and she could have faked her death and impaled her "killer" from behind
Eh, I think what they did was fine.
codafett I mean I’m pretty sure she’s still alive? Isn’t that what season 6 said?
I almost subscribed to you because of that intro..... man that intro is gold.
Just almost? Got to dance harder then!
4:28 looks like we’ve known about the new hero for years now
Well made video! So addicting to watch! I usally don't sit through a 19 min video but it was so easy with this one! Keep up the good work! :)
And on August the 6th 2020 we get to play as Apollyon, Finally.
It took me a moment to remember where the music at 15:39 was from, and I gotta say that's a nice little touch you added there with "Lord of the Black Stone"!
Cookie for you!
King J. Grim 0:21 is from Killer Instinct!Tusks theme if I recall.
Thank you so muuuch, been looking for that song for 2 hours T.T
BROOOO i love you man XDD, i love the not taking yourself too seriously with a deep review on their character. insight disguised as goofy. well done man. WELL DONE! Kepp pushing man youll break the mainstream
i love Apollyon's armor i just hate the eye sockets also i thought she was a viking at one point like her hair looks like a vikings. This video kinda made me like Apollyon even more
Yeah... she probably hails from the north... I mean, hair and that height?
Vikings wpuld probably be malnurished, medieval europe had a history of being fueled by farms
bRO WAIT what if Warmonger is one of the citizens who fled to the blackstone fortress
16:52 Apollyon face reveal
A better ending would have been when every character,Warden, Raider and the samurai fight her as representative of their faction
Someone make a gif of that intro pls
The skyrim music gives me a massive sence of nostalgia. Thanks for that
So you do live?...
I was worried that I'd have to call in some favors to send in an SAS squad to check if you've been abducted by the Orochi weeb swarm.
Echo and Hibana weaboos forever.
Sammy the Nerd
Ironically, not many realize I'm a direct reference to the game...
Pfft SAS, just send in a lone Blackbeard.
Just send in LORD TACHANKA
Send ela and zofia no need for them
In the news: "local angry teenager set a war in all the world"
Loved the Samurai intro man.
Johnny theYoungBosch I hate that people don't take the samurai seriously
@@shaymcleod5735 It's pretty hard to.
Zer0_ Ner0 because of stereotypes like this.
Weeb: Face justice.
Bad ass knight: I'll pass.
That intro got me to sub before I even saw your content.
I hope you'll stay for the content, and not just for my dandy moves
Anyone else watching this after the release of Warmonger? Thank god, they gave us the option to use Apollyon's armor.
9:58 I couldn’t stop laughing
"An what of the knights? they're protectors, arent they? Well... most of the time."
*shows clip from kindom of heaven*
"DEUSVULTDEUSVULTDEUSVULTDEUSVULT!!!"
13:45 Final Fantasy song, can't recall the game though. X-2? X? I know it was something related to X somehow.
X-2, Memory of Lightwaves. So you're correct!
FFX-2 a shit game FFX beautiful game, along with Tidus's laugh y'know what i mean
I love the spice you added into the mix
(Basically I loved for how you added Skyrim music into this video)
The reason is for a FUCKING puddle of water.
Hey, if it's clean water, I'd bring an axe
I think the actual goal was for all of them to die, hell that's why she named herself Apollyon since they were the cause of her home being destroyed
I hate that the Samurai had the spotlight in the story. The Warden you play as, yeah he should had been the one to kill Apollyon. The Samurai dude just comes out of nowhere and suddenly becomes her killer. The Warden, he's the best fighter in the story. Seriously that dude should have had more game time, he was so badass.
Not only that as he had *reason* to fight Apollyon himself
She made him commit horrifying atrocities, from starvations, to what was almost genocide and used him as an instrument to sow war amongst post-Cataclysm Europe
The samurai just comes out of nowhere and "hey we'll be the only ones to get closure you tin cans" and the story ends in the game
Really sad that the Warden couldn't get his revenge, I say.
What about the raider ?
Japanophiles. That's why. Also, to get weebs which is sadly large in numbers to invest in the game.
Thinking about Apollyon years later I realized that she really isn't a villain per say don't get me wrong she does very villainous things but ultimately for a very understandable reason when you think about.
If she truly wanted to conquer and control everything she could have easily done it swiftly but she didnt because her whole concept of war and peace is what makes her do what she does.
That being she wants to keep the nations fighting to keep a balance between if one side gets too high she would try to rebalance it to keep the conflict constant.
Think about it in real life, for all of history there's has been violence and war for every thing but by war being continueous its keeping balance, sure there will be alliances here and there but at some point they will break it and go back to their own ways again hence keeping a cycle and balance, its just like what happened with America and Russia, the two nations worked together but after WW2 they immediately started fighting each other.
But lets say that peace does happen but for how long will it last, lets say that the Vikings have no food or if any faction is low on certain supplies, what makes them think that one of them is just going to give them away, because they wouldn't why help some other people who are low on supplies just like you, you will usually help your own.
So in reality Apollyon was the one keeping things a balance as a whole.
You need to keep a balance if you want anything to work out, you can't let one side teeter to far.
But again its just an opinion
I was playing Skyrim while playing this so the music at 7:00 threw me off a little
Taijess Basnaw The exact same happened to me. I had to pause the video to hear where the music was coming from
Taijess Basnaw and oblivion
Taijess Basnaw I LOVE SKYRIM SO MUCH!
Apollyon actually translates to the Greek synonym for Satan,the arch fiend
I looked it up
Omg was that Mount and Blade I just saw at 0:26
The use of Darksiders References as well as Soundtracks; You have my respect kind sir.
Oh shit, finally. While I don't agree with the way she is doing it, I can see why she want to do that.*Looking at our current world*
The reason why she wants war is because... well it's human. Humanity is basically a backstabbing B****. Smiling like friends, yet the moment you turn your back you can wait a knife in your back.
She wants people to embrace that side of humanity and not being hypocrites about it, and thus the strong one will raise and stand up for themselves before humanity turns weaker and weaker.
" I want you to recognise who you really are "- Apollyon.
Didn't she just invite the People in her fortress to Let Them see carnage and create new apollyons
Apollyon = Esdeath
Pretty much, no?
tbh ye
No.
A good comparison
Apollyon isn't a sadist but other than that they are pretty much the same.
They were both raised with the mindset of ''survival of the fittest''
Both of their village was destroyed because they were considered ''weak''
They both killed and forced their way to the position of power.
And lastly they both made a last stand against a girl with a katana.(depends if you chose a girl orochi.)
So yeah they are pretty much the same.
Apollyon is the best what the story mode had. What a shame it was short.
Not gonna lie, that is the greatest intro to any video on TH-cam.
OMFG YOU TOOK YOUR TIME!
Jkz, love ya man
First video of yours ive found, was glued to my screen for the duration. Great work.
Happy to hear it!
When the game came out a lot of people complained about the story mode lacking any depth...and while...yes it is brief I beg to disagree. It has as much depth as you are willing to give it. It's made to make you think. Was she right? Was she wrong? The story mode of For Honor sparked a philosophical debate inside me as soon as I saw the ending.
For the longest of times i assumed that Apollyon was some kind of twisted nihilist, but your approach to it brings valuable food for thought.
It's 2020 and we have Apoll- Warmonger
No its WaRmOmmY
I want A P O L L Y M O M M Y armor so bad
Am i the only one who liked Apollyon's idea? That wanted to side with her?
I wanted to side with her really bad
Somehow the way you depicted Apollyon ambushing the lawbringer fits so well.
So bassically Apollyon was a good person?
she was the joker in armor. "all I want is for you to admit what you really are!"
No... she just wanted to show how Violent Humans are, even though we hide behind a "smile". We are monsters, but we should not hide our violence and the love and admiration for it, but embrace it.
Not quite, but had some good qualities about her. Still a definite, unapologetic warmonger (but with motivations, I guess?).
Christopher Jones true. I likened get to the joker because of how both cause chaos arround them and infect others with it to prove a point. To show every one just how violent and blood thirsty they truly are and all it takes is a bad day, a push on the wrong direction.
Jose Ssegovia ok so this is what I'm getting, she was not a good guy, only to prove that us as humans has a need to kill, but that she also has a very tragic backstory that we will need to respect?
Every once in a while I load up this video to watch the intro
Do you know what kind of animal waits for it's own slaughter?
Sheep.
Do you know what kind of animal awaits for its sheep?
wolf.
The reason for this conflict is actually a puddle.
Samurai: Anime. TRRRIIIIIGGGGGEEEERRRRRREEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDD
Blackstone for life
you are criminally underrated
Guess I need a lawyer
And now she'll actually be in the game
Your spoiler warning prevented me for watching the video but I will suscribe because it is fantastic.
Well, return after you've played For Honor's story, I am certain you will enjoy this video! I hope.
Anyways, welcome aboard!
I don't know if anyone will read this, but looking back at this video it is very plausible that astrea was a survivor of the attack onto the castle, most likely looking up to wolfmommy as a hero( since she was the defender of the castle and essentialy the people inside it) and years later decided to follow her steps, forming the cult of horkos we're seeing now.
.....and it maybe have been apollyon's back up plan too, since it was not garanteed that the war would last decades...
Ohoho i love the intro
Ahaha glad you do
"What else could you ask for?" *Dedicated Servers pops up*
Well it took them forever, but now we have everything we could ask for.
Shoutouts to those who understood the real Japanese subtitles😂
i think its safer to assume that she lead the ppl into the castle so that when they evtl would get massacred, it would give the remaining knight factions a more compelling reason to attack viks and samus....
So Apollyon is medival Batman?
no.
that a intresting analogy