It’s nice to see someone actually test the 940 instead simply commenting they don’t cut well. It looked like it cut well to me. Plenty good enough for my needs, plus they carry so well in the pocket.
I own both and don't remember the last time i carried my pm2, takes up more room in the pocket and has less cutting edge. Been carrying the 940 everyday since i bought it, cuts like a dream for my needs.
Great video. The results were what I expected. I was a little surprised to see that the 940 did as well as it did. I was happy to see it though since I own a 940. I like it but I do need to get the blade reprofiled to 15 degrees.
Great cut test as always Dood!!! I don’t really like Benchmades geometry not slicey enough for me. Oh and I’ll be hitting you up for a slip for my Barlow when it comes!!
One of the (unusual) things I’ve noticed about the 940 is that it cuts cheese better than many Spydercos-seems like the narrow height and wedge-like shape yield better cuts through sticky mediums. Even when sharp the 940 is not great on paper. Good test, Doody.
What do you mean by aftermarket edge? I dont understand... The Spyderco with factory edge vs a 940 with an "aftermarket" edge. Im curious as to the angle. Also, what is going on with Benchmade that makes you dislike them?
@@doodysdaggers so how would that be even a close comparison? The whole video came off as a "Benchmades are not good knives" video. All that aside, why do you didlike Benchmade so much?
Interesting video. Fun watch. I saw your reply about Cutleryshoppe regarding the Wharny PM2. It’s in XHP which I’m not familiar with. Quick search looks like it’s a bit like 20CV maybe? Have you worked with it?
The 940 seemed to have done surprisingly well. I’ve not been made aware of any issues with BM steel. But, as a general consensus in the industry and among enthusiasts, Spyderco reigns king. I doubt there are many BM fans that would disagree.
had this same thing happen between my CPM-M4 940-2 and my CPM-M4 Manix 2 lightweight. i got the 940 first and processed about 120 boxes at work, could barely cut paper after i was done, I decided this is what to expect for CPM-M4. Fast forward a couple months i pick up my Manix 2 in CPM-M4, except this time i had a load of 160 boxes to break down. After i was done with that i tested the Manix 2 on receipt paper and to my surprise it still cut clean, hell it still shaved. When i got home i stropped it and it came back to the way it was when i first got it. My 940 HAAATES my strop for some reason so i always need to sharpen it. all in all spyderco seems more quality to me, considering the fact i spent $220 on my 940 and about $140 after tax for my manix 2 lightweight. I'd say benchmade needs to get a better hold on their QC, its not even a competition at this point.
I bought a 940 back in 2020. Nice knife, but as far as extended cutting is concerned it’s Spyderco all day. Their heat treat is superior on s30v. My 940 performs on par with Spyderco bd1n. When I use my knife it’s usually for prolonged tasks. I need my edge to hold up, and for that reason I usually carry Spyderco.
IIRC, Larrin Thomas did some tests on S30V and found Benchmade to have better edge retention than Spiderco on S30V. Is that worth $100 extra for the butterfly tax? Depends on the buyer, I think. I'm a 940 guy, but Spidercos are arguably better knives in most regards. If you take subjective views on aesthetics out of the equation, I think I'd rather have a Spiderco PM2 over a 940 if I had to only choose one, forever. Specifically the PM2 in Magnacut. Yet, I EDC the 940 in S30V. I do actually use it daily, multiple times a day. Also the 940 definitely has a blade more similar to a reverse japanse-tanto shape than a sheeps-foot. Blade shapes are relatively fluid but sheepsfoot are almost always a straight edge with a curved drop. The 940 is a curved edge and a straight "reverse-tanto shaped spine. I don't see the argument for it being a sheepsfoot.
The 940 is actually a Spey blade. Just look at Warren Osborne's background before he moved to Texas and started selling knives. There is a reason for the blade shape.
The 940 most certainly has a reverse tanto blade style, not sheepsfoot. Curious why you used the 940 for comparison and not the 290BK Full Immunity which has the Wharncliffe blade style 🧐
@@rommelthedesertfox3089true but you aren’t getting choke up spots filled with jimping on any BM. The crazy locked in feeling where it wouldn’t go anywhere even if your hands were covered in oil. Im just a Spyderco fan, some people like the way they look, others don’t. 🤷🏻♂️😁 It’s all good if you don’t
Way back when I was 12 I loved looking through the Benchmade website, was so cool. (Current website is shit by comparison, I promise.) Model 42 was the apple of my eye. To be an adult and hear how BM has "fallen off" truly does sadden me. Along with newer designs that just don't look as good. I bought my one and first BM over a year ago for 80 bucks new, a fixed blade modeled like the ka bar TDI but wharncliffe. Feels great in hand... my Kershaw was more factory sharp by miles and miles but still a dear blade... an old discontinued one... they had a lot of cool designs they will never bring back. They speak of the Butterfly Tax... seems about right. No reason they can't price like spyderco... especially when G10 is often not standard. (I have grivory... it is perfectly fine. The BM Azeria is nice but as a non folding knife (originally an HK design, hard to base BM's quality off just that one. Thinking about getting a griptilian but why do that when the spyderco Endura 4 lightweight with emerson wave exists for 90 bucks opposed to the other around 130 if not more so. Endura is prettier... I'd consider the bugout but that is 150 minimum... with the cheap scales, quickly become twice the spyderco price is you want comparable steel and handles that are nice. BM seems a bit pretentious, the fact they donate to anti-gun org.s arguably is part of it. That would never make me write them off, I can separate the art from the artist, but it is a weird move considering how they sell highly tactical knives to US citizens. Plus the knife and gun world overlap soo much... just optically dumb. I mean... have gun control like the UK and then carrying any knife is the next thing to go. How you can't carry a knife... are subject to the whims of people carrying them illegal with bad intent... taking in so many migrants only made knife attacks more bountiful. The BM name is such a big deal... feels like they abuse the fact, realize they can get away with sub designer brand products because they label it the apex designer knife.
lol i hate how the spiderco looks ive always have even when i was younger and seen it for the first time i hate how theres a huge hole in the knife and i dont like the blade shape at all lol but love the video tho keep on keepin on ill see you in the next one
man i wish i knew how to sharpen my knifes i would use them if i did but owell i want someone to show me in person not on youtube lol but what ever i guess ill just never use my CJRB feldspar or LAGO lol
It’s nice to see someone actually test the 940 instead simply commenting they don’t cut well. It looked like it cut well to me. Plenty good enough for my needs, plus they carry so well in the pocket.
I own both and don't remember the last time i carried my pm2, takes up more room in the pocket and has less cutting edge. Been carrying the 940 everyday since i bought it, cuts like a dream for my needs.
Agree!
I put a 15 degree edge on my 940 it cuts just fine
Great video. The results were what I expected. I was a little surprised to see that the 940 did as well as it did. I was happy to see it though since I own a 940. I like it but I do need to get the blade reprofiled to 15 degrees.
I was surprised too! It definitely did better than I thought it would
Great cut test as always Dood!!! I don’t really like Benchmades geometry not slicey enough for me. Oh and I’ll be hitting you up for a slip for my Barlow when it comes!!
Right on!! 🤘
I have a lot of S30v from both companies and it's always been plenty good for me on the daily. Great video, thanks for the testing.
Awesome test to see, ill still carry my 940-2 over my s35vn pm2 tho. I just love the 940 so versatile and much much easier to carry.
Great video! Have both knives (standard PM2 tho) in same the steel. Both kick ass!
Nice to see another test.
One of the (unusual) things I’ve noticed about the 940 is that it cuts cheese better than many Spydercos-seems like the narrow height and wedge-like shape yield better cuts through sticky mediums. Even when sharp the 940 is not great on paper. Good test, Doody.
That’s weird! Maybe I should add a cheese element to the cut tests 😉
Going out on a limb here, but guessing you are a wisconsinite!!!!!!
So what to purchase?
Black G10 with S30V at $205, or
CF with S90V at $315?
Hmm… is s90v $110 better than S30V?
Hard to say. With the added CF upgrade, I say $315 is worth it.
I was positive I already knew what the answer would be & I completely agree. Spyderco really is just that good!
Good Morning Doods
Mornin Ryan!
I really like Spyderco's CPam-S30V. Treatment seems very good on every piece in it that I have from them.
What do you mean by aftermarket edge? I dont understand...
The Spyderco with factory edge vs a 940 with an "aftermarket" edge. Im curious as to the angle.
Also, what is going on with Benchmade that makes you dislike them?
I mean an edge sharpened by the owner, not factory edge
@@doodysdaggers so how would that be even a close comparison?
The whole video came off as a "Benchmades are not good knives" video.
All that aside, why do you didlike Benchmade so much?
I have Benchmade folders and Spyderco folders and have not pitted one against the other. They suit me fine. Appreciated your demonstration though..!!
How you put the green stiff on the strop do you heat it little bit or just crayon it on
Just crayon it
@@doodysdaggers allright Boss
the Spyderco Wharncliff looks so cool!
Cutleryshoppe.com has them in stock right now!! They’re pretty rare
awesome thanks for the heads-up!@@doodysdaggers
Just goes to show what Benchmade is charging all that extra money for. Respect. D
The 940 is better for digging my arrows out of trees when I completely miss my target! 😅😅😂😂😂
Yep, I’ve dug a few out of stumps!
Benchmade should make a mule line so they could experiment with more steels and heat treating.
Interesting video. Fun watch. I saw your reply about Cutleryshoppe regarding the Wharny PM2. It’s in XHP which I’m not familiar with. Quick search looks like it’s a bit like 20CV maybe? Have you worked with it?
Yes it’s VERY good stuff!
The 940 seemed to have done surprisingly well.
I’ve not been made aware of any issues with BM steel.
But, as a general consensus in the industry and among enthusiasts, Spyderco reigns king.
I doubt there are many BM fans that would disagree.
Yep. The 940 did better than I thought it would for sure
I going to say spyderco for the win!!!!!!!
had this same thing happen between my CPM-M4 940-2 and my CPM-M4 Manix 2 lightweight.
i got the 940 first and processed about 120 boxes at work, could barely cut paper after i was done, I decided this is what to expect for CPM-M4. Fast forward a couple months i pick up my Manix 2 in CPM-M4, except this time i had a load of 160 boxes to break down. After i was done with that i tested the Manix 2 on receipt paper and to my surprise it still cut clean, hell it still shaved. When i got home i stropped it and it came back to the way it was when i first got it. My 940 HAAATES my strop for some reason so i always need to sharpen it.
all in all spyderco seems more quality to me, considering the fact i spent $220 on my 940 and about $140 after tax for my manix 2 lightweight. I'd say benchmade needs to get a better hold on their QC, its not even a competition at this point.
Amen!!
I bought a 940 back in 2020. Nice knife, but as far as extended cutting is concerned it’s Spyderco all day. Their heat treat is superior on s30v. My 940 performs on par with Spyderco bd1n. When I use my knife it’s usually for prolonged tasks. I need my edge to hold up, and for that reason I usually carry Spyderco.
I love my PM2 wharnie! It’s a slicing machine!!
IIRC, Larrin Thomas did some tests on S30V and found Benchmade to have better edge retention than Spiderco on S30V. Is that worth $100 extra for the butterfly tax? Depends on the buyer, I think. I'm a 940 guy, but Spidercos are arguably better knives in most regards. If you take subjective views on aesthetics out of the equation, I think I'd rather have a Spiderco PM2 over a 940 if I had to only choose one, forever. Specifically the PM2 in Magnacut. Yet, I EDC the 940 in S30V. I do actually use it daily, multiple times a day.
Also the 940 definitely has a blade more similar to a reverse japanse-tanto shape than a sheeps-foot. Blade shapes are relatively fluid but sheepsfoot are almost always a straight edge with a curved drop. The 940 is a curved edge and a straight "reverse-tanto shaped spine. I don't see the argument for it being a sheepsfoot.
The 940 is actually a Spey blade. Just look at Warren Osborne's background before he moved to Texas and started selling knives. There is a reason for the blade shape.
Sure, but I don’t have an use for a spey blade
Why is it that u r done with benchmade if u dont mind..just curious
Their prices are outrageous and I don’t like their designs
Spydie for the win. Thanks for the video brother
great video! would you be interested in doing a slip for me? for my gec 71 bullnose. does not have to be anything fancy. have a good weekend!
Absolutely! Send me a message on Instagram, or email and we’ll work it out
The 940 most certainly has a reverse tanto blade style, not sheepsfoot.
Curious why you used the 940 for comparison and not the 290BK Full Immunity which has the Wharncliffe blade style 🧐
It most certainly is not a reverse tanto
That's a sheepsfoot.
@@vorpalblades most certainly a sheepsfoot
I have a 940 auto in my pocket right now.
Spyderco knives are so ugly and bulky it’s like they refuse to make a knife that’s slim and sleek and just good looking
Because their first priority is ergonomics and usability, not looks
@@doodysdaggers I agree function over form always but benchmade manages to do both very well although some of their prices are insane
@@rommelthedesertfox3089true but you aren’t getting choke up spots filled with jimping on any BM. The crazy locked in feeling where it wouldn’t go anywhere even if your hands were covered in oil.
Im just a Spyderco fan, some people like the way they look, others don’t. 🤷🏻♂️😁
It’s all good if you don’t
@@doodysdaggers fair enough
I've noticed how damn chippy my bugout s30v is and I haven't cut anything crazy with it. Sux.
Really? Damn that blows
SISAAAAAAAL ROOOOOOOOOOOOPE
just started the video and if spyderco not better its rigged
Way back when I was 12 I loved looking through the Benchmade website, was so cool. (Current website is shit by comparison, I promise.) Model 42 was the apple of my eye.
To be an adult and hear how BM has "fallen off" truly does sadden me. Along with newer designs that just don't look as good.
I bought my one and first BM over a year ago for 80 bucks new, a fixed blade modeled like the ka bar TDI but wharncliffe. Feels great in hand... my Kershaw was more factory sharp by miles and miles but still a dear blade... an old discontinued one... they had a lot of cool designs they will never bring back.
They speak of the Butterfly Tax... seems about right. No reason they can't price like spyderco... especially when G10 is often not standard. (I have grivory... it is perfectly fine. The BM Azeria is nice but as a non folding knife (originally an HK design, hard to base BM's quality off just that one.
Thinking about getting a griptilian but why do that when the spyderco Endura 4 lightweight with emerson wave exists for 90 bucks opposed to the other around 130 if not more so. Endura is prettier... I'd consider the bugout but that is 150 minimum... with the cheap scales, quickly become twice the spyderco price is you want comparable steel and handles that are nice.
BM seems a bit pretentious, the fact they donate to anti-gun org.s arguably is part of it. That would never make me write them off, I can separate the art from the artist, but it is a weird move considering how they sell highly tactical knives to US citizens. Plus the knife and gun world overlap soo much... just optically dumb.
I mean... have gun control like the UK and then carrying any knife is the next thing to go. How you can't carry a knife... are subject to the whims of people carrying them illegal with bad intent... taking in so many migrants only made knife attacks more bountiful.
The BM name is such a big deal... feels like they abuse the fact, realize they can get away with sub designer brand products because they label it the apex designer knife.
Well said! I agree 100%
Spyderco forever❤
lol i hate how the spiderco looks ive always have even when i was younger and seen it for the first time i hate how theres a huge hole in the knife and i dont like the blade shape at all lol but love the video tho keep on keepin on ill see you in the next one
A lot of people used to hate Spydercos until they tried one.. just sayin 😉
Spyder…. Spyder…. Spyderco Hoooo!
Bro I can’t stop buying knives.
Hehehehe
It is a bummer that Benchmade is charging so much now… Gotta love Spyderco though
Seems it would be better if you rested two knives that had the same shape blades. Also, it seems you went into the test pretty biased.
man i wish i knew how to sharpen my knifes i would use them if i did but owell i want someone to show me in person not on youtube lol but what ever i guess ill just never use my CJRB feldspar or LAGO lol
Spyderco > Benchmade in literally every way.
I used to think benchmades were the best knives around…. Until I discovered Spyderco, WE, even my Microtech that costed LESS than most benchmades.
Exactly!
Spyderco seems to boast one of the best and most consistent heat treats in the industry
Absolutely they do!
I always thought buck was top tier also, in their heat treat.
Man if you still hate the 940 I got a sage 5 I’ll trade ya 😂😂😂
It’s not mine, I wouldn’t buy one 😁
Spyderco over benchmade all day errrday
🤘
Spyderco is best knife
BM s30v does not show off how good of a steel s30v actually is. Spydie absolutely knocks it out the park with s30v.
Doods.
❤❤❤❤❤ cpm .. s35vn and cpm s35vn... non cpm rolls too easy.. had to take bezzle down
M390 is like M4... cpm better edge retention