Living in a world made of cardboard
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0:00 - yo yo yo
1:15 - superman as a foreigner
3:41 - an ode to DCAU superman
6:40 - credits
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It isn't hard to see, ooh
The hangups we have today
Said we need to strive for more liberty
Lift yourself up on your feet, let's get it on
We've been foolin' around, my friends
For much too long (too long, too long, too long)
It isn't hard to see
Said the hangups we have today
Said we need to strive for more liberty
Lift yourself up on your feet, let's get it on
We've been foolin' around, my friends
For much too long (too long, too long, too long)
Ooh, liberty
Give on the cry out for liberty
Ooh, yeah, yeah
Liberty, give a cry out for liberty
Liberty
Give a cry out for liberty
Well, liberty
Walk around with my flag in my hand
Give a cry out for liberty (try to bring liberty to my brother man, ooh yeah)
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The huge line drop about him “living in a a world of cardboard” really hits hard when you realize how much he must hold back against those he hates
do you think darkseid even knows what cardboard is? i cant imagine they produce and make cardboard in Apokolips what with how flammable it is and how on fire the planet tends to be
@@FantasmaNaranja bitch he works at a McDonald’s once
@@FantasmaNaranja At least he could suppose that by "cardboard" Superman was talking about fragility.
I don't think he can truly hate anyone tbh
You know the messed up part? I am pretty sure he was STILL holding back! 😆
I always thought Superman telling Darkseid that he wasn't leaving until he was "a greasy smear on my fist" was the best line he ever used against someone.
It is the most badas
That fight was way better than the series finale
Honestly that final fight was insane. Yeah we know Superman holds back, and here’s the thing. Even against Darkseid in that fight he held back so much because even one punch with no restraint could level a city. As one version said “With step an Earthquake, with every breath I could create a hurricane. This is my burden, be thankful it is not yours.
And the "Let's go." at the end is the cherry on top.
@@rogue_2k374 Death battle reference?
I thought "For the man who has everything" was a great insight into Superman's character. His ideal dream life isn't as Superman as some powerful self-imposed ruler, but as Kal-El, a humble farmer with his family back on Krypton. It really cemented for me the idea that any story that makes Superman the "bad guy" doesn't understand who Superman is as a person.
It also shows why he sees the idea of having kids with Lashina as such a horrible thing. He doesn't want his son to have someone like that for a mother. Not because he hates the people of Apokalips, but because Lashina's influence would not be a positive one. Whether this son would have cool cyber-kinetic powers doesn't even enter into the decision making process.
Talking about Clark being a foreigner... I'm rewatching Justice League (thanks to your Wally video, btw) and I realized something in the Blackest Night arc. Hawkgirl looks and Superman and tells him how weird "you humans are." She then apologizes for sounding harsh and Superman simply responds with "no, I take it as a compliment." He's almost giddy to think that someone sees him as just a human, reinforcing his innocent need for acceptance in the world he's scared of being shunned from. The DCAU was a gorgeous thing
I am currently rewatching the Justice League show, and I noticed the same thing. I loved how he had a goofy little smile because he was called human and not Kryptonian or alien
It is funny considering how Wonder Woman gave the different respond toward Superman opposite from Hawkgirl. I don't remember which series or movie from, when Wonder woman tries to interrogate a Parademon or some alien she captured with her lasso, she glanced toward Superman for help as it speak gibberish which make him retorted with how could she expect him to understand their language just because he is an alien. 🤣
@@hteteaindraykyaw996 -- That was the Harley Quinn show, which is purposely irreverent toward the characters and takes them in a different -- yet still very clever -- direction.
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I thought it was Justice League War.
He passes
Superman; more specifically, Clark, is a very good representation of nurture over nature.
Having the Kent’s as parents won’t guarantee a Clark, but it greatly increases the likelihood of it.
Yes but Red Son shows that he'll always be a good person
I would argue Clark is a representation of nature and nurture working together to create something better than one of them by themselves. Rather than the nature vs nurture stories that we see so often.
You could say it’s a combination of the two since the Els were of the best of Krypton.
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Yeah I agree with the El’s, but I’m speaking specifically about if he had been found by Luther Sr., or even a family that just didn’t have the foresight, patience, etc., to keep him secret, and how differently he’d have been.
The main continuity Clark, has a very specific type of parents.
Gods and Monsters, is a pretty good elseworlds story, about Kal El being raised differently.
@@CorbCorbin I get the argument you're trying to make. I should've been more clear. My argument was about the main-continuity Clark.
It's just me getting tired of nature vs nurture stories. They all seem the same to me nowadays.
But I have nothing against alternate versions of Superman. Appreciate that you took the time to reply to my reply
For me, it's one of the simple things. In the DCAU world "made of cardboard", he seldom "explodes" into motion. He usually just floats away and speeds up slowly. He absolutely could take off like a rocket. But he doesn't want to, because of the possible collateral damage. But he doesn't need to, because he appreciates even the simple or mundane things around him.
But that scene is followed by MASSIVE collateral damage and people screaming in terror while Superman destroys the city... people just ignore that part.
Also, this scene is copied again with Captain Marvel when he destroys another city to provd Lex Luthor is a criminal. The scene is really about how Clark has a barely contained temper that Darkseid and Lex Luthor trigger constantly, just like most of the DCAU is (see: Justice Lords).
@@MrBazBake you didn't get the point, the point of that scene is how powerful Superman is when he stops holding back, and we see that massive damage throughout the city , that's the point, is for us to see how powerful superman is when not holding back, that's literally the point, plus when superman punches him through into buildings I don't hear any people screaming
@MrBazBake you aren’t wrong. He wasn’t holding back and people got hurt. But something that is sometimes overlooked is that Superman has a moral compass. In the Justice Lords timeline he stopped holding back and main timeline Superman knew this. And even faced with the same scenario he was so close to becoming the same villain he feared. He wanted to kill Lex. He was praying to his God to let him be that man. But he just couldn’t. His restraint is so powerful that even when he wanted to kill Alex he couldn’t. He just couldn’t.
@@RagingBlazeBloodBaka This is one edge Superman has over alot of his peers. Holding back is ingrained in everything he's done in his whole life. Even when his peers put up a good fight against or around him there's still him once he stops holding back...and there's still him when he starts putting in real effort.
@@RagingBlazeBloodBaka So superman was ok to punch darkseid through those buildings? Even if they weren't screaming, they were looking up in terror. How does this differ from when Zod in MoS is purposely trying to kill people? The humans in that fight weren't screaming. Seems like Superman is actually an evil character.
The carboard world speech is the most accurate representation of how superman's powers relate to the world he lives in seriously he could probably paralyse someone with a pat on the back if he wasn't paying attention in the Dr destiny episode his nightmare is that he loses control of his powers and kills everyone he loves.
One of his biggest fears is his powers.
Reminds me of that one episode in Superman animated adventures where he pretends Clark Kent was killed
That whole speech lives in my head rent free. Picking up on your point too when Darkseid gets the upper hand and starts pummeling superman he retorts "Super or not, you are still a man." he means it as an insult, but it's exactly what he needed to hear.
"If even you still see me as a man, I'm doing a better job than I thought."
- Clark, probably
Literally watched this yesterday and cried when Superman said "That man won't stop fighting until his last breath" 😭😭😭 RIP Kevin Conroy the one True Batman
It was only recently it hit home that Superman was simply raised right by two good parents. If he was a human he probably would have become a fire fighter or a soldier, or even stay as a farmer. Whatever let him help people because that's how he was raised. He goes out there as Superman and the thought of making his mother proud most likely goes through his mind all the time. That's wild to think about with a character so powerful.
There is a great scene in the comic book series Reign of the Supermen. After the Superman clone, Superboy is rude to Lios Lane she calls Martha Kent. She asks Martha about Clark as a teen, and if he was anything like Superboy. Martha tells her that no son of her and Johnanthan would ever act that way. Lios answer back that Superboy's problem is that he was not raised by the Kents.
@@joethepagan3297 DOS and Reign of the Supermen was what really drove this home...because both John and Martha were around and were still active presences in Clark's life. You really felt the level of influence they had on their son.
In a JLU episode, Superman is confronted by visions of the life he wants, and to his credit he becomes a farmer just like the Kents.
Exactly! It took the recent animated series for me to really get it, Superman stories aren't about jesus metaphors or not being able to save everyone, it's about a man with god like power who chooses to use it to help the little man, because his parents taught him better than to be selfish
He's a man who was shown so much love and care by complete strangers (The Kents) so he believes in humanity and tries to be that friend to everyone. He isn't defined by where he came from but by the actions he takes
Reminds me of Superman:The Journey where he goes on a cross country trip to find himself questioning his truths and ideals,along the way he runs into familiar faces like Wonder Woman,Flash,and Batman who flesh out his arc all while looking out for others
Superman's goodness doesn't come from the yellow sun. It was instilled in him by his adopted parents. So it is actually a reflection of humanity's own goodness.
Is that why they call him,a super friend?
this is where the Superman- Livewire dynamic is so interesting... deep down... Superman sees Leslie as someone who needs guidance in how to live her life in a productive way.... and tries to give it to her. in the comic continuation of DCAU, and in the pre-2011 comics.. Leslie ended up being an ALLY of Superman. in the comics she even joins the "Supermen of America" as a legit super-HERO.
@@albertthepeacock8020 sauce please
Superman being the nicest dude ever was always my favorite part of him. He could destroy anyone without breaking a sweat but he'd rather just be your friend and avoid conflict as much as possible because he's so afraid of doing irreparable damage
As someone who grew up as a darker skinned person in a white family, and now living in a fairly kind yet prejudiced Eastern country, Superman's story of an "immigrant" with the feeling that he may never truly fit in has always made him one of my favorite heroes.
You know what’s interesting about that. Is that Superman didn’t need to be black or colored for you to resonate with him.
@@jackroyaltea5034 yeah, I never cared. Other people did, though. I dressed up like superman once, for Halloween, and one guy said "nice, you look cool", but another said " oh, not Superman! Super Juan!" He didn't mean harm by it, but it made me feel shitty. I thought "why can't I be Superman?"
I’m “light skin” as in mum’s white and dad’s black but when I go to anything family related on my mums side, I stick out like a sore thumb lol...walking around with my lighter brother and white half sister, I often get looks (especially if it’s just my little sister and I). Have learnt to not pay attention to them but it’s still an annoyance every now and again.
Regardless, that’s why I love the premise of Spider-Man...he has no determined skin colour behind his mask and I like to believe that Stan lee truely did mean that by design.
@@darkassassin6457 yeah, my friend and his sisters are similar. They're Vincentian. Actually, full black, just their mom is lighter than average. He's told me that the rest of the family is pretty openly mean to them, so they don't visit anymore. He's more into anime, but, regardless of where it comes from, this is why heroes and superheroes play an important role in society for kids to look up to. People with stories and personalities we can see ourselves in.
That's why I love these videos.
@@jeffgoode9865 sounds like there's more to that story they're not telling besides a black and white scenario. Pun intended
Superman has always been one of my favorite superheroes, and one of the easiest to get utterly, terribly wrong. You've really captured the essence of Superman here. I hope whoever directs the next Superman reboot watches this first.
It's already happening. Just watch Superman and Lois.
Henry Cavill's recent statement about Superman being about hope, optimism and joy give me some confidence that Superman will be more true to the spirit of the character in the new movies
The start of the monologue is my favourite, "That man won't quit as long as he can still draw a breath. None of my team-mates will. Me? I've got a different problem."
The whole sequence is great.
Yes please keep posting more DCAU Superman, he's the best.
That is why the "Stand Down" moment in Superman and Lois is such an amazing example of how right that show portrays the character. He's wounded, in intense pain, and protecting two innocent teenagers. There would have been a dozen ways he could have disarmed all those soldiers, and destroyed their weapons (including the one designed to hurt him) and yet he restrains himself and pushes through the pain and the rage just to tell them to "Stand Down."
Thank you so much for talking about adoption. I was adopted from South Korea by a white American couple and damn if Clark’s struggles with fitting in and being different even from his parents don’t hit hard. And I don’t think the adoptee side of Superman gets enough attention.
The whole adoption angle and Kal-El technically being an "illegal alien" (literally an alien, too) was a huge plotpoint in _Man of Steel._ And even though that movie has some massive flaws & illogical scenes, that was the thing IMO the writers got right. But ironically, that specific point was something many American fans seemed to hate to judge my Internet comments; maybe because traditionally Superman had been this "All-American Hero", grown up on farm in a rural small town America with mum's applepie, dressed in "patriotic" colours of the flag.
@@TF2CrunchyFrog There was a comic storyline where they handled it even *worse* , where a group of aliens refugees flee to Earth, wanting to just blend in and live life as humans. Supes gives them a big speech about that being wrong and wants to kick them off the planet. Why does he do this? Part of his speech is about how it is wrong for more advanced cultures to come to more backwards places and “colonize” them, and another part about how Humanity hates and rejects things for being different…while being an open alien on a team with another alien that both are accepted and lauded as heroes.
Just think about how lucky you were to be in America where they don't care if you are Korean. Imagine if you were adopted by a less tolerant society
I absolutely love how this has been a DCAU channel lately
How i found it, so im glad for that haha
There isn't a problem with that 🤣🤣🤣
One of my favourite parts of that speech is that you can hear the frustration in his voice when he says "cardboard". This is a being that literally consciously thinks about not killing or maiming someone with every move, hug, handshake or even footstep. It would be exhausting.
When he says "...Just how powerful I really am!" I get so amped. And then he just wallops Darkseid. So awesome. Love the vid!
There was one scene in Whedon’s JL movie I wish was in the Snydercut (or at least the idea expressed) where Brice tells Alfred that Clark was more human than Bruce was. It’s what, in my opinion, makes the “Martha” scene work so well because it made Batman realize in that moment that he was trying to kill someone’s son; a man who had everything Bruce didn’t which made him, oddly enough, as human as the rest of us.
I never felt such a scene was needed. The sentiment it expressed is true but it's already shown in BvS: we saw Clark's passion for journalism and stable home life compared to Bruce's misery, all conveyed visually.
In JL 17's defense, that scene has been done worse: there's one from Superman for Tomorrow where he talks with Batman and it's really stilted, less like two friends taking and more the writer having characters bluntly discuss their dynamic in stilted fashion.
His love and want to protect life is what Superman needs more of in modern media. Often the conversation is what villain he has to fight and can they challenge him like he was Batman, but his stories work best when it is not about the villain and about can he save everyone or not. I think that is why the villains I like best for him are ones that may not challenge him physically but in ideological or indirect ways, like The Elite or when Luthor is using his influence rather than his power suits
Then you may enjoy a short story called "The Metropolitan Man." It's mostly from the prospective of Luther, so Superman is ostensibly the antagonist, but simply because Lutehr can't accept someone having that much power, while Clark struggles with how much he should use it. Clark tries to do only "unambiguous goods," but the question of what problems he can and can't solve, and what problems he shouldn't, are not trivial. He uses his super hearing, for example, to show up whever someone fires a gun, so murderers use knives, because the sound of cutting someone with a knife is not sufficiently distinct from cutting steak or something, and there's another character, William Calhoun, the last mob boss of metropolis, who goes out of his way to goad superman. Every night, he speaks to superman, knowing that he can hear him from wherever he is, and talks about all the terrible things he's done and sometimes hints at what he will do, knowing that superman can't testify ot any of it, and tells him that all he has to do to make it stop is to kill him.
He runs into all of these problems, simply because he has so much power; Luther has no dislike for him, and in fact respects him once he finds out who he is, but is so terrified by the idea of an omniscient alien god who can see through walls, hear any private conversation, and respond with unlimited force that he has to find a way to oppose him anyway. Clark is caught between two enemies, Calhoun, who opposes Superman because of his "hypocritical" policy of "unambiguous good," who hates him, because Superman has to power to do anything, but is too timid to use his power to truly accomplish his goals, and Luthor who opposes superman, because he's terrified of what might happpen if Superman started to bend that definition of "unambiguous good" a little too far. Calhoun respects Superman's power, but hates Clark KEnt underneath it, whereas Luthor respects the person underneath, but fears unimaginable power he happens to have.
Love the "World of Cardboard speech but the scene that best defines DCAU is in my opinion in the episode "For the Man Who Has Everything".
Overly Sarcastic Productions out it best, when Clark is given everything he ever wants he knows there is something wrong and when he realizes he needs to let his perfect world be destroyed and lose his son he is heartbroken.
He doesn't dismiss his son as an illusion, he spends the last moments of that world staring into his eyes and promises to remember him.
Because for Clark being Superman is not a game, it is a huge sacrifice. Is doing the right thing even if it hurts.
He is not a crusader like Batman. Not a warrior like Wonder Woman. Not a intergalactic police like the Green Lanterns. Superman is just a helpful neighbor. He just a helpful neighbor who is willing to the hard and easy things to help people whether protecting them against Darkseid and his army or getting a cat out of a tree.
You'd be surprised how many people the World of Cardboard speech resonates with. Growing up, when puberty hit, I bulked up considerably and suddenly had it drilled in my head every day that I needed to hold back because I could hurt someone I don't want to. After a regretable period of life, I started to hold back, but knowing what I could do is terrifying to me.
Please never change that song in the beginning, it's so good fr
Truuuue
This demonstrates how Superman's personality could arguably be different if he had a different upbringing.
Like that of Red Son or Megamind.
Exactly like that actually, if the Kents didn't teach him right and wrong, and to appreciate the simplicity of life, he could literally be a dictator.
Yeah, while under Darkseid's control Superman enthusiastically "celebrated" with Lashina.
One planned, but canceled plot point later was to have in the time frame of "Batman Beyond"... Lashina's son show up... with all the powers you'd expect for a Kryptonian-New God hybrid.
I was kind of disappointed by Red Son both in comic and movie form, because it seemed to forget the core principle of Superman: that he embodies our better angels. He's the ultimate outside observer, while also being committed to the best parts of what humanity has to offer.
The whole moral slip n' slide to dictatorship and oppression is certainly *historical,* but it didn't feel true to what Superman *does.*
@@valritz1489 yeah some alt-Us are meant to be... bad... and wrong and never seen again.
Another great video that shows an understanding of the type of person Superman really is. The cardboard speech was definitely an awesome scene that shows Superman going all out against Darkseid, but more importantly it shows why Superman has to restrain even against his enemies, unless he absolutely has to. Nice of this video to remind everyone who watches it that Superman's humanity comes from how much he cares about people, which he learned to do from how his adopted parents raised him.
Part of the beauty of Superman is that he is both an immigrant to earth , adopted child by earth, and powered by earths sun. And while earth is most of his powers he was sent here for earth and he is like a celebrity to earth.
Whenever folks talk about Goku vs. Superman, this is what I think about. The parallels between the two makes me muse of the possible conversations they would have.
But I ultimately think what would break Clark's heart is how Goku was accepted, not just by the world, but by his foes as well. How must Clark must wish for a world we're he fights along side his long time enemies.
And, Clark letting go in a possible tussel with the Sayin.
No longer being worried to just, let go.
You know what, this video has made appreciate Superman 10× more than before i saw it
In short: Be the person Superman knows you can be.
A lot of people simply don't get Superman, he could legit do anything he wished yet he doesn't. He's the paragon of humanity of what we should be.
Superman does exactly what he wants to do and that's help people
I love Superman. DCAU nailed his character and everything about him that makes him great. It really goes to show how criminally incompetent Hollywood is at handling him.
Just love how his power is restraint.
Superman is on the inside looking out. And on the outside looking in simultaneously.
Just in weird perpetual limbo
you make such good videos, I hope soon your channel takes off and becomes even greater than it currently is.
I hope Henry Cavill becomes this version of Superman.
The idea of Superman as a tentacled alien monster is kinda amazing. Imagine if that was explored (maybe it was and I never heard of it?) more thoroughly. No mind-rewriting or shape changing, that's just what he looks like, what he ALWAYS looks like, and the Kents take him in anyway once they get over their initial fear and realize that it's just a helpless, if alien, baby.
I'd read that.
I could work as martian manhunter story as it fight hsi power set to change into human form but i don't know enough of his backstory to squeeze it in. At what age did he original arrive at earth? and who raise him or was he already a grown up and just morph to fit in.
@@Marveryn martian manhunter was already an adult when a scientist from earth actually pulled him here with a teleporter that then exploded, taking all of his notes and research with it
Thanks for making videos specifically on superman. Im a superman fan and hes always been my favorite out of all the superheros but its hard to find others with the same level of love towards the character. You give well thought out analysis and interpretations on the what makes superman great to a level that i could never even attemp to try. Thank you for waving the superman flag in such a caring and artistic way. We fans appreciate it.
That line always stuck with me. "But YOU can take it... can't you."
I think you pointing out something small like Superman using Batman as motivation for the idea that he never gives up- and the reason why he loves Lois really hit deep. The fact that he himself looks up to the people in his life to teach him how to be better. That's probably one of the most relatable things I realize is apart of Superman. I wouldn't be able to keep going if I didn't think about everyone I love who keep going despite everything they've been through. My parents, my best friends, everyone. Some great trait I've learned about them and admired about them so I too can wield it while trying to push them on. The fact that he's admired doesn't stop him from the fact that he really admires others just as greatly, and THAT'S why he sees that everyone has the potential for good. Those that do wrong might not have anyone to show them that there's always a way. Maybe every time they've tried to do good, the people in their lives and the events that shaped them kept pushing them down until they felt it was all hopeless.. and so that's why Superman keeps fighting on. He knows that inspiration leads to inspiration, a kind act can lead to a kind act- and if it's taken advantage of- the person is called out before given another kind act- until that person begins giving out kind acts in response. Realizing the only person holding them back is themselves. Training their empathy or their sense of helping others like a muscle... and just like how astronauts who escape the earth's gravity and see it and the moon experience the Overview effect- Superman is in a constant state of this feeling, being able to see bacteria- hearing everyone- seeing the cosmos for what it is... holy shit I think I finally get Superman completely.
ALSO! I think I really wanna see something done with these next DC movies that the comics just simply aren't really able to do... make the world slowly become better- or even the villains. In Gotham it's always a shit hole, it's always a nightmare, the villains always escape- but the movies can make it go through an arc. Starting out as a terrifying place, and slowly get the right infrastructure and stability it needs. Every time it's knocked down or the people are hurt- it grows even stronger. The villains all start out how they do in the comics- their worst versions of themselves, as some of them slowly actually heal in Arkham Asylum throughout the movies. Not all of them of course, some of them would get even worse. This could especially be taken to Metropilis. It starts out as a pretty city and changes into one of the best places a person could be in. The education, the community, the crime rate, even the technology (I think worldwide it'd make more sense in general) all slowly improving.
And I would still make it so that each film where it's shown how things are getting better- each new villain that's introduced threatens to just destroy all of it so easily in terrifying ways. I'm thinking that they could genuinely make them disturbing villains just from the contrast (like how Invincible shows such a disturbing contrast between the hopeful optimistic ideas of superhereos with the brutal reality of the darkest and most disturbing aspects of life... and the kinds of people that could exist.) It obviously couldn't become as graphic as Invincible- but just try and keep that brutality and unkindness of some of the worst parts of it while still having the classic superman there to do his best regardless.
The World of Cardboard speech is the pinnacle of DCEU Superman, the music swells and builds up with the punch. The whole speech is what superman is, a man who has to be calm and reserved for the better of the people.
I find the excerpt from Batman/Superman comic to be interesting, as its a copy of Ikon, the OG Dakotaverse superman, as he was an alien who took on the appearance of the people who found him.
That speech at the end was amazing, shame after supe gets so epic, darksied still just smacks him down. and he gets saved by LEX LUTHOR!
This should be a required watch for anyone attempting to make anything Superman related.
The problem is that nowadays those who see the best in humanity don’t get the chance to write these films like they once did.
I always say that if someone is going to write Superman, they have to read “Kingdom Come,” because most of the bad Superman writing misses what that book says outright: His greatest power isn’t his strength or speed, or any of that; it’s his judgment - his instinctive knowledge of right and wrong. When the “super” becomes more important than the “man,” he’s gone.
The Cadmus Arc of the JLU has a lot of skepticism about Superman, it just comes to an ultimately positive conclusion.
And you think that they are right to criticise Superman.
The scene where he has to take out Capt Atom to let Huntress & Question escape, then shouts down the Cadmus techs "Don't you touch him, he's Justice League! ". The look of regret as he picks up the teammate he had to fight and carries him out says it all.
That JLU ep with christmas legit one of the best looks into supermans mind. He tries to peek at the presents.
Superman and Lex luthor’s relationship being summed up to basically being Georgia vs Alabama is the most accurate thing I heard all day 🤣
Not really. Alabama has established themselves over a decade. Georgia have been at the top...once? I'd say it's more like superman relationship with Mr Myxlplc.
So, uh. In my usual rewatchings of the DCAU, I had oft overlooked or never truly appreciated or perhaps never had the chance to appreciate “Superman: The Animated Series”.
As things stand, I’m still working my way through the show’s backlogs, but there was a a line that stood out to me when rewatching the opening three-parter:
“I ripped open the RV like it was made of cardboard…”
Whether that line was deliberately referenced or otherwise, I can’t say. What I can say is that the DCAU writers knew their canon, inside and out. And I’m damn grateful for that fact.
Great video as always!
Your videos are genuinely some of the best video essays I’ve ever seen
This is the most memorable speech in all of TV in my experience. It's my go-to reference for "a thing Superman once said"
You have the more insight into my favorite character than anyone else. It's appreciated
“They can be a great people, Kal El, they wish to be...they only lack the light to show the way...”-Jor El of Krypton
I love the way they animated Superman, he almost never really goes all out. It really made the "world of cardboard" moment shine. I still get emotional imagining Superman putting his all into a punch, nothing held back, yelling as he releases everything he can muster in a single punch. Goosebumps.
This is why I love superman and why hes my favorite superhero hes a big inspiration to me I love his character
I wish this was longer, that’s how much I truly enjoyed and appreciated it. When I was younger I always wanted to be batman cause he was so cool and badass. But the older I got the more the idea Superman grew from an alien idea of someone so perfect and happy and powerful, to someone that’s that’s represents the best of humanity despite it all cause he sees the best in humanity
Always tear up when someone understand superman. Great video
DCAU Superman was my Superman growing up. He's just,awesome.
Yea I wanted to be superman when it was 9. I wanted it so badly. I prayed for it.
I like mos. Youre not wrong there is a true character piece that we all want to see.
That doesn't mean that chris nolans version turning the focus on what's wrong w the world.. We trust each other so little ,a being who only wants to help is looked at with fear and suspicion
It is always good to see someone who actually gets Superman.
Superman’s speech to Darkseid is what JLU S2 was all building to and fuck it was worth it
Love that opening song you always use...."something.....something....something changing your mind...."
Paper Twins - Something That Was Changing Your Mind.
Its right up there with FilmJoy's "...don't hold love....that you never set it free...." Cheers to another one of your videos.
I love your DCAU and DC introspectives!!
It’s amazing how I got this same message from DCAU supes, long before you ever made this video.
Now that’s great writing.
Also, the speech Lex gives in All-Star Superman, seeing the world with Kal's senses, he experiences an epiphany of empathy and it breaks him
Hits hard especially when you take his character as the aggregate of the DCAU series, his transition from the happier supes to the still good, but noticably angrier/short tempered/jaded version in later justice league. Its cathartic.
Thank you to remind people of the DCAU and its awesomeness.
You're grinding youtube HARD. Keep up the good work, don't overdo it!
i find your channel a couple days ago, and it's so good, thanks for the effort man
5:26 Never stops being awesome
Super Man is so strong that he can move me without even being real. That is strong.
I was a Superman hater most of my life, until I finally watched the DCAU. Now he's probably my favorite superhero.
It's embarrassing how an alien can come to earth and contain all the traits we see as ideal, while we struggle to embody those convictions. I know he isn't real but I feel real shame at how little people have true kindness.
It's also embarrassing when his dog can potentially become a better hero than 99% of the heroes your planet can offer.
The best super man line from the best superman.
The DCAU defiantly had one of the best versions of Superman from a human character point and the world of cardboard will always go down as one of my favorite scene in the entire franchise. A lot of people complain that the scene comes out of nowhere but one of the things that makes it so great is that it is actually built up throughout all the series that make up the DCAU. We saw in in his own series that Superman was capable of beating Darkseid literally to death with little effort once he was truly enraged and stopped holding back after Turpin's murder. Darkseid was helpless to do anything. The only reason he survived was because the people of Apocalypses CHOSE to not only spare him but keep him as their god when Superman offered to let them choose his fate to try and free them. We also saw in the original Justice League series with the Doctor Destiny that Superman's single greatest fear was his own power. He started out as an ordinary kid but just kept getting stronger with no limit in sight. By that point in time Superman was already strong enough to kill anyone he met with just a casual touch and he feared that one day his strength would exceed his control. Hell, we even saw his greatest dream with Mongols starfish thing was to live an ordinary life.
"Im just a guy from a small town that wants to do the right thing" - From the Death of Superman animated movie
This is why when people ask who would win between Goku and Superman, my answer is "both". They'd find an uninhabited planet for some high-impact sparring, then head to Smallville to drink milkshakes and swap war stories about Darkseid and that Freezer guy.
Superman's greatest power isn't what he can do, it's what he doesn't do. He doesn't take over the world. And then you take that thought and realise that all of us at some point will have power over others in some way, be they our partners, children, work colleagues, or strangers, and what you do with that power defines who you really are. WWSD?
Best Superman scene ever imo.
I think the DCAU Superman needs to be celebrated as one of the greatest characters of the last 30 years. DC should have been using him has a blueprint from the very start of their talk of making an expanded CU.
Superman's best stories are the one the dive into who superman truly is a man who saves people not because he has to not because of a tragic backstory he does the things he does not just because it's he does thing because he enjoys helping people he enjoys saving people
honestly your videos have changed my mind on superman. my first exposure to the superman story were through parodies, injustice, and the Snyder movies and i feel like because of that i never understood what made a good superman story. thank you for making these videos i feel like i can enjoy more media because of them
Been really enjoying all your videos keep up the good work
You are consistently killing it with these videos!
Skeptics:"Why help?"
Superman:"Why not?"
Superman written properly like DCAU Superman most of the time is the goat. So freaking good.
I needed this today, thank you.
I always thought of superman as a rebuttal to the old "absolute power corrupts absolutely" saying. Super-man can move planets, he can destroy suns, he can rip and destroy everything like it was cardboard, and yet in some of his best stories he chooses to stand up for the little guy and the common man. he protects everyone to the best of his ability. I'm not saying stories where superman turns evil are bad, but I think they kinda betray a core concept of the character in my eyes and there hasn't really been a story I see as the definitive super-man turns evil story( with the exception of maybe red son, but he's not evil so much as its "what if superman was a Russian and communist") I think that's why Snyder's superman has divided so many people, I mean there's also the terrible and obvious Christ metaphor, but I don't like that take cause it kinda takes superman's humanity away a little bit and makes him almost ancient alien-esque where he's this unknowable in human paragon of virtue. The Snyder movies feel like they separate superman from humanity and I feel like that;s why people aren't in love with that character. honestly the best modern portrayal ( and I'm only saying this cause I haven't seen superman returns) is the joss whedon superman from justice league ( and I just recently saw the Snyder cut ad i still prefer the whedon one), because there's a warmth to the character, he still gets angry and still makes some mistakes, but it does a better job of bringing out the humanity of the character. He actually saves people, he's concerned for the other heroes, he's a little bubbly and snarky, he's not all business. you see a little of that in the snyder cut with the "I didn't smell good before?" line, but for the most part I don't feel like the Snyder supes understands what makes the big blue boy scout interesting.
The Justice League from another reality becoming the fascist Justice Lords after their Superman atomized Luthor.
And the Authority.
THer are really a lot of stories where Superman goes "dark"... noteven counting the old Silver Age bonkers comics where Superman is just a dick.
@@TF2CrunchyFrog I know, there are some better ones here and there. Like injustice Superman is popular and I like the Superman from the alternate version of earth where lois dies in the Superman animated show. I'm not saying that there aren't good Superman goes bad stories, what I'm saying is I feel like it kinda betrays a core part of the character and what makes him interesting when you do that. The marvel equivalent would be making Captain America evil, yeah the comics have done that, but I feels like it completely changes something core to the character. Which in writing can be a good thing if done well cause it makes you think about what makes that character interesting and work.
I would recommend watching his interviews talking about Superman, it’s clear that he understands the character, I can actually sent the video if you want.
The Christ thing isn’t much of a unique in the Snyder version, other versions before had the Christ metaphor more heavy handed like smallville, donner, Silver Age, Superman returns; the smell good bit was from whedon’s cut, Snyder Cut was the “you spoke”. Snyder Superman has shown a lot of the humanity traits that we know him for, like when Clark goes through Gotham to write a story to spread word about Gotham citizens issues and strive for social justice through journalism, or how excited to tell Martha about his ancestry that he discover, to always take a car ride to a place when he’s not doing superhero activities. Whedon’s actually just waits for steppenwolf to tear cyborg apart and talks about truth and justice, the reference of do you bleed, lifted a empty school building just cuz flash handles a random family that wasn’t relevant to anything and the beginning of the movie. Where ZSJL had Superman save cyborg by taking the hit and beats up steppenwolf down in the same location where they address that it’s a abandoned city.
I feel that whedon’s is a shallow impression than anything else, especially considering how whedon is actually like as a person.
I would say watch Superman returns, but it’s the reason why people say that Superman is repetitive, mostly because it repeats a lot of things from the donner films.
@@legoben98productions the parts in the Wheaton cut that I like is the parts where they save people, fighting in an abandon city seems kinda boring to me. I also like the banter more in the Wheaton cut. I agree I don't like wheadon as a person and there are scenes I dont like Wheaton cut( like the infamous wonder woman flash scene), and I like rhe battle scenes netter in the Snyder cut, and I think some.of the aspects of the ayder cut are stronger(I mean its like a 6 hour movie of course it's gonna have a stronger story) that all being said I prefer the wheadon cut more. I'm just not a fan of the really contemplative Superman that feels depressed by being superman, I don't like the end og the world dark side stuff they seemed to have been building up to, and a lot more nitpicky stuff in the Snyder cut,I have nitpicky stuff with the Wheaton cut too, just not as much.
@@darkmyro I couldn’t stand the banter in whedon’s it always felt so forced like the brunch bit, and how the league felt more like knock off avengers especially when they fight in the hanger for no reason at all. Like I honestly prefer the Snyder Cut’s dry & awkward humor and how the league saved the scientists from steppenwolf and that they act like the justice league and worked together that genuinely cares about each other than whedon’s. I honestly was excited about the Darkseid foreshadowing and that it was part of a big story. I rather have the 3-4 hour long dc movies that have a more serious story with the dry humor that are more philosophical and mythical with the characters being capable of being the characters, than WB trying to copy marvel’s movie gimmick, like agitated avengers.
3:20 ... that would make for a bad ass inspirational poster in someones room.
Awesome job as always!
As great as JLU's "Workd of Cardboard" speech is, it's kinda undercut by the fact that the legendary beating Superman promises to give is ultimately, like, two punches (and the Darkseid pulls some plot device bs out his ass and wins the fight anyway).
"Justice League: Apokolips War," despite being an edgelord's wet dream, has a similar Superman/Darkseid fight that's way more satisfying. Superman goes absolutely apeshit on Darkseid, beating him up, gouging his eyes with his thumbs and thrashing his body around, tossing him like a ragdoll...it's a very cathartic scene and I wish JLU did something like that. Maybe not as brutal, but really push the limit of what they could get away with showing on what was ostensibly a kid's cartoon.
LMAO, I GOT AN AD WHERE A GUY WAS COMING FROM A CARDBOARD WALL, THATS SUCH PERFECT TIMING
World of cardboard still gives me Chills to this day
YAY! REFERENCE TO THE SUPERMAN AND LOIS SHOW!!😆🙌 Appreciate it being used to discuss the best parts of Superman🙌
👏👏👏👏👏 this is what people who still to this day say Superman is boring or not relatable he's just the fucking best hero PERIOD.
This video made me shed tears, it really touched my heart. Tnx
Your video made me cry.
This is why whenever anyone says Superman is one bad day from turning evil falls on its face. And using Injustice Superman is a terrible example of what Superman stands for, because in the end, he falls to a good version of himself.
I find true power in restraint - Kara Zor-El
AYYYY I'M ACTUALLY HERE ON TIME!!! AND IT"S ABOUT MY FAVORITE MOMENT IN ALL OF DC COMICS?!?!?! YES PLEASE?!?!!