The sad part is that even when they tried even in sunbreak it seems some of the details are lost in translation, until some people in forums checking out the japanese version if not just datamined it. Guess eventually, but it'll be a long way till its perfect.
@@Cynvicta It's been a problem for so long, I think it has to be on purpose. Even the localized names of skills make little sense like Chain Crit, etc.
@@Kasaaz haha, and i still find it silly that the anti-wyvern skill is called anti-dragon cause in the japanese its not wyvern but dragon and elder dragon But yeah it gets worse here with some dango stuffs, iirc super recovery or something make it sounds like lv 1-3 regens your health if the monster can see you while 4 regens all the time. Meanwhile based on the japanese version and actual test 1-3 heals when you are not in the presence of the monster while 4 just regens all the time. Definitely not a great experience, like this is rpg and some skills they decide to use words like slightly and greatly, while on others its % numbers
Kind of a pity, really. Out of all the possible oil buffs they could have carried over, they went for the useless one. They had four different options and they went for the single one that didn't make much of a difference. Like, imagine if they had picked the Stamina Oil instead, people would be all over that shit, even if it only lasted 30 seconds and consumed 2 wirebugs. Minds Eye oil might not have been hugely popular, simply because getting 2 ranks of Minds Eye on your build is really easy in Rise, but both Affinity and Stamina could have been huge.
Why is Stamina good tho? Just wondering and politely asking, because I don't know if I ever ran out of stamina with SNS, yet I don't even know what you need stamina for. I must have missed something
considering how SnS mains are obsessed with oil to the point they can drink grease out of a deep fryer, I'm having trouble deciding if this is parody or not
That's not true, definitely didn't do that, Who would do such weird things? Not me, oils are a great boost to the sns' power that's all, not obsesed at all
For some reason, I was under the impression Destroyer Oil also applied a damage modifier similar to Part Breaker, so I used it mainly as a way to cut tails with SnS without having to actually slot the skill in. Guess I was wrong...
@@sanguinetales Currently there are very few monsters where that’s the case (Anjanath’s legs for example). When the metal Raths release, destroyer oil might be useful, but it’s impossible to tell right now.
3:41 "Oh, i see you decided to pause on this frame. Well in that case? i hope you realize that I'm being sarcastic here. Destroyer Oil is one of, if not, the worst silkbind attack in the game. The attack does not look cool or strong at all. And outside of being able to break parts a little bit easier if you need to farm materials, Destroyer Oil does very little when it comes to making monsters flinch easier. In other words, it's useless. The calculations i did with Teostra proves it. Capcom, why couldn't you have just given us Chaos Oil? Why couldn't you have given us something more interesting and game changing?"
Well, idk if I'm wrong but he flat out divide the first knockout threshold to the monster's base HP. Monster develops resistance everytime it gets stunned. Hence, destroyer oil is still useless and he is still right.
Ahh I see you've come to the light. Destroyer Oil literally grants me sub 1 runs with any monster in the game. I honestly don't know why people don't run it as it's the best skill in the game!
@@SKY85sr Wait if it give us 20% more part damage and flinch it way more, does that mean using part breaker skill also give us even more flinch? or it just applied to destroyer oil?
Thank you for this breakdown. I am immensely disappointed at the reality of this ability and baffled how this garbage for SNS even made it out of QA or beta testing. I main hunting horn myself and always have, and it feels bizarre I got a far better buff steroid ability than SNS with Silkbind Shockwaves(Which are extra hits outright, each doing higher Partbreak+Exhaust+Ko at that! ) When SNS for a game or two now has been the ones with the oil/buffs for changing playstyles and situations on the fly. If anything they should have got the version of my move as a Chaos Oil stand in.
They couldn't even give us the particle effects on the sword like previous iterations of oil. I feel like I'm just smashing a wire bug and smearing it on my gear with absolute 0 value. Stick to the Street Fighter loadout
i was hoping they'd make it competitive with metsu so it's not the default choice. but hey, they buffed windmill enough where I use it sometimes so that's neat.
I'm absolutely terrible at remembering silkbind moves exist so a buff I only have to remember once a minute or so is unironically infinitely better than a shoryuken I will never, ever remember to use.
The shoryuken is the powerhouse of the new moves though, a lot of damage on a good counter plus incredible knockout power. I can't count the number of times I've gotten a big KO out of nowhere with that move.
I only use Shoryugeki to counter roars and big obvious attacks Most of the time I counter an attack where the monster moves forward, so I deal zero damage and get clapped on the way down. Either that or the part of the monster that attacked me is not a weak point, so I do low damage Falling Shadow is good, but not strong enough to beat 1000 hours of muscle memory from World and Iceborne
@@Sorrelhas That's exactly the problem I have, man. I have like 150hrs in Rise but 1000hrs in World/Iceborne. When I see an attack coming that I cannot dodge, I don't think about Windmill or Metsu. I block or superman dive like I did in World.
I wish. If that were actually an option it might actually be a TA wiki rule which would help me rationalise not using silkbind more easily and thus enjoy the game more.
Making one single oil from Generations into the new silkbind attack already felt bad. In Generations oils weren't even part of the Hunter arts at all. It was something extra that SnS users got.
Thanks for the video. Could you, please, explain, what exactly is "monster flinches"? Is it when you just interrupt attack monster or its even can "stun" him to the ground? I played MHW and now MHR 500+ hours, but still can't tell properly "Is it flinch?"
Its when you attack them and they "flinch" backwards, they stop attacking for like a second, can possibly stop a potentially dangerous move from being performed mid animation.
@@KanyewestFT1W Can it "stun" monster, so it fall to the ground? Like Deviljo in MHW, when you "slap" him with Hunting Horn when he digin ground towards you? Recently I fighting with Magnamalo realize, what he lying without "stars" above his head (I mean, probably its not stun). Sorry for my English.
@@veraurkalt2338 that would be knock out, some monster have a special state that when enter allow them to do crazy move but in the same time they also create weak point that you could focus on, attack that weak point enough and you will not only knock out the monster but shut down the monster special state, for example when anjanath enter the special state his head glow red hot allowing him to spit fire and some special attack but in the same time his head now became the weak point, hit his head enough and it will knock him off his foot and shut down his special state
I think when they fall over it's a "trip" but if you "flinch" them while they're in the air (some jumping attacks) then they'll also fall to the ground... I probably have around 2000+ hours across all MH games and even I don't understand what a lot of TH-camrs talk about haha, don't need to know every detail of a game to enjoy it
I have tried using it on Barioth and Tigrex. Both will weaken if break their wingarm or nail I guess lol. Don't remember the exact name. This also could synergize well with bloodrite, got early part break then change back to metsu or windmill.
I mean it has one use case in sunbreak as you can basically have it for free and swap to shoryu after using it and that is farming anomaly quests. Every part break has a chance to give you afflicted parts so with destroyer oil on youll break more parts overall without sacrificing anything on your set to do so. If you are a madman like me aiming to craft absolutly everything it sure can help getting an extra part break or two in those quests.
it's +20% part damage, but not +20% part break rewards. Intuitively it seems the same, but no. By the end of the fight, most of that bonus part break damage ends up being vs parts you already broke. It has good synergy with Bloodrite so you can get the first couple part breaks 20% sooner into the fight.
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This is just dripping with sarcasm. I’ve been trying to try out the oil, but damn its animation is so slow, does little damage, and the minuscule effects last for less than a minute. Bruh
To add insult to injury to all of this, it isnt even a pure buff. It could be disadvantageous for us to flinch because we have trex range, and the player can't be expected to control that. In your typical hunt you could be hitting hard spots, wyvern riding, getting interrupted by monsters, no one can reasonably take advantage of every flinch with those factors
You’re absolutely right. No player can really control when a monster flinches unless they are counting the damage or have a mod that shows part hp. And in multiplayer it’s basically impossible. I’ve been saying this all the way back when Destroyer Oil was first introduced that it wouldn’t be good. And it’s not. There is a non insignificant number of people who would say “just switch skill swap, ez,” but why swap to a useless move? Hence, the trolling.
@@SKY85sr I brought up on one of your old videos that swapping was also risky as it wastes approximately 10 seconds, and in that 10 seconds you could miss a roar or a key move that could be metsud. Back then I just saw it as suboptimal as hell, knowing now its only 20%???? Its no longer suboptimal, its straight up detrimental, I can't even recommend it for casual play as the move does little damage, has an awkward hit box, slow as hell AND leaves you wide open to get hit both before and after application. It's booty cheeks through and through. Even if it didn't cost a wirebug, it'd still be bad.
Sure :D ...you can deal extra +20% partbreaker damage (+2 partbreaker) and flinch damage or you can simply do the metsu to build stun/exhaust and deal plenty of damage including partbreaker and flinch damage while deflecting the attack. I'm still having it on my second loadout but the duration isn't worth the effort and wirebug cost honestly. At this point I'm thinking about switching to Windmill for cutting tails or so. Only thing I can agree on is that the animation looks kind of cool.
Interesting thing is, it actually stacks with partbreaker, allowing you to do some insane partbreaks while also doing disgusting amounts of flinch, especially if u infini combo. It's a cornerstone of my build, since I run blood rite for dereliection. It's also an easy buff to apply then swap off of, so there's honestly no reason not to, as you can just slot in metsu or windmill in the second scroll.
@@SKY85sr And getting myself to that state faster, is an automatic switch flip for my bloodrite dereliction build to start kicking into overddrive. It's fun and quirky, snd doesn't necessarily have to be optimized, if you got something that can benefit from its downtime. And by god is playing bloodborne in mon hun, my idea of fun.
I didn't think you guys are actually serious about this. My main concern in regards to Destroyer oil is that unlike many other silkbind skills it simply doesn't feel impactful. As long as it costs wirebug it should do more than long animation committment attack with the damage comparable to single sword slash and the short buff which might or might not make a difference.
I don’t think it looks and feels powerful, but it’s definitely powerful. I just think it could be more than just a thrust, but maybe that’s what they’re going for. Like looks weak but secretly strong.
Do we know for certain that it gives a partbreaker bonus? I've only seen people in the community ASSUME it does, but the official description and word from Capcom only state that it makes the monsters flinch more easily.
It is not an assumption. Flinches and part breaks use the same part HP. More part damage means more flinches and faster part breaks. You can easily verify this yourself if you want to.
i may be ... just dump but i want someone to enlighten me .... it is realy that good? i mean... i use it and i feel no diffrence :( and when the monster flinches, it gets away from me for 1 sec and then i have to reposiioning the time and dont make more dmg ... because the monster flinches back for like 1 sec. does the part breaker skill scale with destroyer oil? then it would be nice. is this video sarcastic ??? oh .. i found the frame at the end ... no answers needed :) thank u u came to the same conclusion as me ...
theres this one big monster hunter youtuber who said the oil was great for lubing the SnS and he loves it. that youtuber was sniffin anything that comes out of capcom's crack
Why not give us the flashy back flip with the follow up finishing combo that valor had in GU? This skilled made it seem we can apply different oils when revealed, only to be disappointed.
If you have max part breaker does the part damage bonus still stack? I’ll use it if it makes part breaking and tail cutting trivial or at least noticeably decreases the effort required to break a part that’s a pain to reach.
yes, tho if you really want to break something you bring rapid fire slicing bowguns with partbreaker. What is not told in the video is that this synergize as well with stamina thief(lvl1 drian deco). Partbreaker and stamina thief both make oil much better but it's still a decent-ish standalone refresh on side scroll, at the end of the day it's not as good as a sraight damage buff, damage also flinches and break parts you know ^^'.
SNS is pretty solid now, and the oils were a way to help it keep up with the other weapons in a previous game. I guess they thought the other oils would be too strong so they brought back the worst one, but the problem is exactly that. Not to mention it has to compete with 2 other pretty good silkbind moves that completely outclass it. Destroyer oil was dead on arrival, they probably should have put it in the other silkbind slot along with the shield advance thing. Maybe it would have stood a chance then... Maybe.
SnS in Sunbreak has one of the lowest dps out of all the weapons right now, so something like Chaos Oil wouldn’t have been overpowered. Even something like hammer’s Impact Press would have been so much better. Conversely, imagine if hammer got something like Destroyer Oil instead of Impact Press. Back to Impact Crater spam it is!
as much as I love sns and would play it anyways. I can see how they overlook the weapon. - ok lets fix that imobile shield slash attack that no ones uses because it doesn't do anything, it doesn't start the combo from the half of it, it doesn't allow you to do anything useful, any ideas? - uhm... since is an attack you do while defending... power armor? - oh, and maybe chain it to perfect rush, that would be great for an option without jumping back - right, power armor, perfect rush.... okay, so it will be a extremely precise counter which can only counter really small attacks and only chains to perfect rush if you actually try to do it without us telling about it :D
i dont know who to follow now after so many videos saying it sucks i dont know if you're being sarcastic in this video or not. I really wanna make it work though its always on my blue scroll and using it only when i remember lol. edit: well after reading the comments i now get it. lol
As far as I know, Partbreaker only works on parts that can be broken. Once you’ve broken that part, Partbreaker stops working. Even if they did stack (I’m sure it does), Destroyer Oil is still garbage.
@@SKY85sr wait, you mean you were joking in the video? I legit didn’t catch on…. Then again I have a hard time telling apart sarcasm from truth very often…
@@AyBee9725 well what you said is the intention, and in this video he explained that on implementation it barely made any differences. You'll get to knockout monsters, trip and even stun the monster during a hunt and as this interupt the flinch hp threshold the ideal possibility of adding 3 more flinches wouldn't really matter as you are less likely to reach that supposed ideal number either way.
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Some day they will actually write descriptions for skills and abilities that actually tell us what they do, right?
Yeah, some day
The sad part is that even when they tried even in sunbreak it seems some of the details are lost in translation, until some people in forums checking out the japanese version if not just datamined it. Guess eventually, but it'll be a long way till its perfect.
@@Cynvicta It's been a problem for so long, I think it has to be on purpose. Even the localized names of skills make little sense like Chain Crit, etc.
The fact we're still calling it 'Affinity' in 2022 is just a giant failure of localizing that they've intentionally maintained to this day.
@@Kasaaz haha, and i still find it silly that the anti-wyvern skill is called anti-dragon cause in the japanese its not wyvern but dragon and elder dragon
But yeah it gets worse here with some dango stuffs, iirc super recovery or something make it sounds like lv 1-3 regens your health if the monster can see you while 4 regens all the time. Meanwhile based on the japanese version and actual test 1-3 heals when you are not in the presence of the monster while 4 just regens all the time. Definitely not a great experience, like this is rpg and some skills they decide to use words like slightly and greatly, while on others its % numbers
Kind of a pity, really. Out of all the possible oil buffs they could have carried over, they went for the useless one. They had four different options and they went for the single one that didn't make much of a difference. Like, imagine if they had picked the Stamina Oil instead, people would be all over that shit, even if it only lasted 30 seconds and consumed 2 wirebugs.
Minds Eye oil might not have been hugely popular, simply because getting 2 ranks of Minds Eye on your build is really easy in Rise, but both Affinity and Stamina could have been huge.
Chaos Oil would have been huge
I already play a slugger build for SnS, Stamina Oil would be wonderful
Minds eye oil sharpened your weapon
@@pizzamozzarella9786 Minds eye oil only sharpens your weapon if you have chaos oil active.
Why is Stamina good tho? Just wondering and politely asking, because I don't know if I ever ran out of stamina with SNS, yet I don't even know what you need stamina for. I must have missed something
Destroyer oil is truly one of the skill in the game.
The first attack to deal a destroyillion damage
man i love the scene when John Sunbreak says "It's destroyin' time!"
That would actually be pretty dope if destroyer oil actually destroys your opponent
Absolutely busted. And on top of that, it does nothing else. Excellent silkbind
considering how SnS mains are obsessed with oil to the point they can drink grease out of a deep fryer, I'm having trouble deciding if this is parody or not
That's not true, definitely didn't do that, Who would do such weird things? Not me, oils are a great boost to the sns' power that's all, not obsesed at all
Kinda ironic ngl, everyone praised on destroyer oil so much when it was revealed, it turns out to be the shittiest new silkbind attack.
Capcom looked at the Final Boss cutscene and saw Fiorayne deal almost 5k damage. That's why they decided to give the weakest one to sns.
For some reason, I was under the impression Destroyer Oil also applied a damage modifier similar to Part Breaker, so I used it mainly as a way to cut tails with SnS without having to actually slot the skill in. Guess I was wrong...
Destroyer Oil should help if you really need to break parts, but outside of that niche case, it’s just not worth it.
@@SKY85sr Well broken parts take more damage so getting to that point sooner in the fight should make the rest of it faster right?
@@sanguinetales Currently there are very few monsters where that’s the case (Anjanath’s legs for example). When the metal Raths release, destroyer oil might be useful, but it’s impossible to tell right now.
Destroyer Oil is so powerful that on a few of my hunts the damage has carried over and caused the next monster to already have broken parts
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"Oh, i see you decided to pause on this frame.
Well in that case? i hope you realize that I'm being sarcastic
here. Destroyer Oil is one of, if not, the worst silkbind attack
in the game. The attack does not look cool or strong at all.
And outside of being able to break parts a little bit easier if
you need to farm materials, Destroyer Oil does very little
when it comes to making monsters flinch easier. In other
words, it's useless. The calculations i did with Teostra proves
it. Capcom, why couldn't you have just given us Chaos Oil?
Why couldn't you have given us something more interesting
and game changing?"
Well, idk if I'm wrong but he flat out divide the first knockout threshold to the monster's base HP. Monster develops resistance everytime it gets stunned. Hence, destroyer oil is still useless and he is still right.
Ahh I see you've come to the light. Destroyer Oil literally grants me sub 1 runs with any monster in the game. I honestly don't know why people don't run it as it's the best skill in the game!
Shhhh! You're gonna get Destroyer Oil nerfed!
@@SKY85sr Wait if it give us 20% more part damage and flinch it way more, does that mean using part breaker skill also give us even more flinch? or it just applied to destroyer oil?
@@bluups8477 Partbreaker works the same way as destroyer oil, but it only works on parts that can be broken.
Thank you for this breakdown. I am immensely disappointed at the reality of this ability and baffled how this garbage for SNS even made it out of QA or beta testing.
I main hunting horn myself and always have, and it feels bizarre I got a far better buff steroid ability than SNS with Silkbind Shockwaves(Which are extra hits outright, each doing higher Partbreak+Exhaust+Ko at that! ) When SNS for a game or two now has been the ones with the oil/buffs for changing playstyles and situations on the fly. If anything they should have got the version of my move as a Chaos Oil stand in.
They couldn't even give us the particle effects on the sword like previous iterations of oil. I feel like I'm just smashing a wire bug and smearing it on my gear with absolute 0 value. Stick to the Street Fighter loadout
Bow's new silkbind Bolt Boost gives your quiver a cool flaming effect, but Destroyer Oil reuses the blue flame on the right arm? Capcom, why?
The spin2win is good for element and status, but not-shoryuken is still probably the best skill overall on that slot, no contest.
i was hoping they'd make it competitive with metsu so it's not the default choice. but hey, they buffed windmill enough where I use it sometimes so that's neat.
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I'm absolutely terrible at remembering silkbind moves exist so a buff I only have to remember once a minute or so is unironically infinitely better than a shoryuken I will never, ever remember to use.
I just use the shoryuken for roars and dunk some heads.
The shoryuken is the powerhouse of the new moves though, a lot of damage on a good counter plus incredible knockout power. I can't count the number of times I've gotten a big KO out of nowhere with that move.
I only use Shoryugeki to counter roars and big obvious attacks
Most of the time I counter an attack where the monster moves forward, so I deal zero damage and get clapped on the way down. Either that or the part of the monster that attacked me is not a weak point, so I do low damage
Falling Shadow is good, but not strong enough to beat 1000 hours of muscle memory from World and Iceborne
@@Sorrelhas That's exactly the problem I have, man. I have like 150hrs in Rise but 1000hrs in World/Iceborne. When I see an attack coming that I cannot dodge, I don't think about Windmill or Metsu. I block or superman dive like I did in World.
@@OniGanon that’s ok. We all hunt differently
I thought this was serious, I love it
Destroyer oil is so powerful it can even deal damage in real life. it destroyed the dreams of JoCat.
Smearing dung pod on the sword would be more effective 😂
Exactly
May as well rename it to "Disable Silkbind"
I wish. If that were actually an option it might actually be a TA wiki rule which would help me rationalise not using silkbind more easily and thus enjoy the game more.
Making one single oil from Generations into the new silkbind attack already felt bad. In Generations oils weren't even part of the Hunter arts at all. It was something extra that SnS users got.
Conclusion: use windmill instead
Yeah, you keep your sword and shield oil, I am sticking with my hunting horn eggs.
Thanks for the video. Could you, please, explain, what exactly is "monster flinches"? Is it when you just interrupt attack monster or its even can "stun" him to the ground? I played MHW and now MHR 500+ hours, but still can't tell properly "Is it flinch?"
Its when you attack them and they "flinch" backwards, they stop attacking for like a second, can possibly stop a potentially dangerous move from being performed mid animation.
@@KanyewestFT1W Can it "stun" monster, so it fall to the ground? Like Deviljo in MHW, when you "slap" him with Hunting Horn when he digin ground towards you? Recently I fighting with Magnamalo realize, what he lying without "stars" above his head (I mean, probably its not stun). Sorry for my English.
@@veraurkalt2338 that would be knock out, some monster have a special state that when enter allow them to do crazy move but in the same time they also create weak point that you could focus on, attack that weak point enough and you will not only knock out the monster but shut down the monster special state, for example when anjanath enter the special state his head glow red hot allowing him to spit fire and some special attack but in the same time his head now became the weak point, hit his head enough and it will knock him off his foot and shut down his special state
I think when they fall over it's a "trip" but if you "flinch" them while they're in the air (some jumping attacks) then they'll also fall to the ground... I probably have around 2000+ hours across all MH games and even I don't understand what a lot of TH-camrs talk about haha, don't need to know every detail of a game to enjoy it
@@veraurkalt2338 Also I think what you're saying with Deviljho probably is a "flinch" that can cause knock down, like with jumping attacks
Destroyer oil canceled for sure after this...
#DestroyerOilIsOverParty
I have tried using it on Barioth and Tigrex. Both will weaken if break their wingarm or nail I guess lol. Don't remember the exact name. This also could synergize well with bloodrite, got early part break then change back to metsu or windmill.
I mean it has one use case in sunbreak as you can basically have it for free and swap to shoryu after using it and that is farming anomaly quests. Every part break has a chance to give you afflicted parts so with destroyer oil on youll break more parts overall without sacrificing anything on your set to do so. If you are a madman like me aiming to craft absolutly everything it sure can help getting an extra part break or two in those quests.
it's +20% part damage, but not +20% part break rewards. Intuitively it seems the same, but no. By the end of the fight, most of that bonus part break damage ends up being vs parts you already broke. It has good synergy with Bloodrite so you can get the first couple part breaks 20% sooner into the fight.
This is just dripping with sarcasm. I’ve been trying to try out the oil, but damn its animation is so slow, does little damage, and the minuscule effects last for less than a minute. Bruh
Imagine watching in the future and not knowing it was buffed to sharpen your weapon>.
Meanwhile GS gets a really fun easy mode and LS becomes Johnny from Guilty Gear
Destroyer Oil saved my marriage
Yo, that’s good to hear!
This feels like a troll...
To add insult to injury to all of this, it isnt even a pure buff. It could be disadvantageous for us to flinch because we have trex range, and the player can't be expected to control that. In your typical hunt you could be hitting hard spots, wyvern riding, getting interrupted by monsters, no one can reasonably take advantage of every flinch with those factors
You’re absolutely right. No player can really control when a monster flinches unless they are counting the damage or have a mod that shows part hp. And in multiplayer it’s basically impossible.
I’ve been saying this all the way back when Destroyer Oil was first introduced that it wouldn’t be good. And it’s not. There is a non insignificant number of people who would say “just switch skill swap, ez,” but why swap to a useless move? Hence, the trolling.
@@SKY85sr I brought up on one of your old videos that swapping was also risky as it wastes approximately 10 seconds, and in that 10 seconds you could miss a roar or a key move that could be metsud. Back then I just saw it as suboptimal as hell, knowing now its only 20%???? Its no longer suboptimal, its straight up detrimental, I can't even recommend it for casual play as the move does little damage, has an awkward hit box, slow as hell AND leaves you wide open to get hit both before and after application.
It's booty cheeks through and through. Even if it didn't cost a wirebug, it'd still be bad.
I unironically used Destroyer Oil for the grind as a pseudo-Part Breaker level 4. I regret nothing.
Look how they massacred my oil ; ;
Sure :D ...you can deal extra +20% partbreaker damage (+2 partbreaker) and flinch damage or you can simply do the metsu to build stun/exhaust and deal plenty of damage including partbreaker and flinch damage while deflecting the attack. I'm still having it on my second loadout but the duration isn't worth the effort and wirebug cost honestly. At this point I'm thinking about switching to Windmill for cutting tails or so. Only thing I can agree on is that the animation looks kind of cool.
Interesting thing is, it actually stacks with partbreaker, allowing you to do some insane partbreaks while also doing disgusting amounts of flinch, especially if u infini combo. It's a cornerstone of my build, since I run blood rite for dereliection. It's also an easy buff to apply then swap off of, so there's honestly no reason not to, as you can just slot in metsu or windmill in the second scroll.
Partbreaker only works if the part can be broken. Once you’ve broken that part, Partbreaker stops working.
@@SKY85sr And getting myself to that state faster, is an automatic switch flip for my bloodrite dereliction build to start kicking into overddrive. It's fun and quirky, snd doesn't necessarily have to be optimized, if you got something that can benefit from its downtime. And by god is playing bloodborne in mon hun, my idea of fun.
I didn't think you guys are actually serious about this. My main concern in regards to Destroyer oil is that unlike many other silkbind skills it simply doesn't feel impactful. As long as it costs wirebug it should do more than long animation committment attack with the damage comparable to single sword slash and the short buff which might or might not make a difference.
*Uses a mod to turn it into Chaos instead, also gives me cool flame effects*
I don’t think it looks and feels powerful, but it’s definitely powerful.
I just think it could be more than just a thrust, but maybe that’s what they’re going for. Like looks weak but secretly strong.
glowing particle effects add a massive damage modifier. why else would they make them so cool-looking?
Thank God I stopped on the one frame, I almost decided to actually use it 😅
Do we know for certain that it gives a partbreaker bonus? I've only seen people in the community ASSUME it does, but the official description and word from Capcom only state that it makes the monsters flinch more easily.
It is not an assumption. Flinches and part breaks use the same part HP. More part damage means more flinches and faster part breaks. You can easily verify this yourself if you want to.
Title Update 3
-Sword & Shield: Applying Destroyer Oil now also restores some sharpness (in addition to its current effect).
POG
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i may be ... just dump but i want someone to enlighten me ....
it is realy that good? i mean... i use it and i feel no diffrence :(
and when the monster flinches, it gets away from me for 1 sec and then i have to reposiioning the time and dont make more dmg ... because the monster flinches back for like 1 sec.
does the part breaker skill scale with destroyer oil? then it would be nice.
is this video sarcastic ???
oh .. i found the frame at the end ... no answers needed :) thank u u came to the same conclusion as me ...
theres this one big monster hunter youtuber who said the oil was great for lubing the SnS and he loves it. that youtuber was sniffin anything that comes out of capcom's crack
(sips drink) this has to be sarcasm.
i wish they just gave us all of the oils as items
Reddit bots downvoted the shit out of me for saying this in the reveal (this being your paused non sarcastic frame)
I don’t use Reddit. Apparently there was a post there that said metsu shoryugeki got a motion value nerf when it didn’t.
Destroyer oil saved my life
Destroyer Oil too good
Why not give us the flashy back flip with the follow up finishing combo that valor had in GU?
This skilled made it seem we can apply different oils when revealed, only to be disappointed.
Thank you finally someone explained this skill properly
Me Just knocking it Out over and over
Huh, I sweared that Destroyer oil added a few numbers to my attack, guess I was wrong lol, time to go back to windmill
Now imagine stacking that with lvl 3 partsbreaker which is another 30%
You had my like in the first 10 seconds.
For the moment..windmill is just too cool 😘
it's not worth it. Especially compared to the Mill or Mezu
If you have max part breaker does the part damage bonus still stack? I’ll use it if it makes part breaking and tail cutting trivial or at least noticeably decreases the effort required to break a part that’s a pain to reach.
yes, tho if you really want to break something you bring rapid fire slicing bowguns with partbreaker. What is not told in the video is that this synergize as well with stamina thief(lvl1 drian deco). Partbreaker and stamina thief both make oil much better but it's still a decent-ish standalone refresh on side scroll, at the end of the day it's not as good as a sraight damage buff, damage also flinches and break parts you know ^^'.
SNS is pretty solid now, and the oils were a way to help it keep up with the other weapons in a previous game. I guess they thought the other oils would be too strong so they brought back the worst one, but the problem is exactly that. Not to mention it has to compete with 2 other pretty good silkbind moves that completely outclass it. Destroyer oil was dead on arrival, they probably should have put it in the other silkbind slot along with the shield advance thing. Maybe it would have stood a chance then... Maybe.
SnS in Sunbreak has one of the lowest dps out of all the weapons right now, so something like Chaos Oil wouldn’t have been overpowered. Even something like hammer’s Impact Press would have been so much better.
Conversely, imagine if hammer got something like Destroyer Oil instead of Impact Press. Back to Impact Crater spam it is!
as much as I love sns and would play it anyways. I can see how they overlook the weapon.
- ok lets fix that imobile shield slash attack that no ones uses because it doesn't do anything, it doesn't start the combo from the half of it, it doesn't allow you to do anything useful, any ideas?
- uhm... since is an attack you do while defending... power armor?
- oh, and maybe chain it to perfect rush, that would be great for an option without jumping back
- right, power armor, perfect rush.... okay, so it will be a extremely precise counter which can only counter really small attacks and only chains to perfect rush if you actually try to do it without us telling about it :D
I used it since slashign is back, however I've never seen it veing effective lol. Stamina oils should've been back
Dumb question here.. is the destroyer oil only applied to the blade or the shield as well?
Both
Busted
ONE OILLION DAMAGE
Great New Vid!
Thank you thank you
Based
What armor is that? Good vid btw!!
Ah, so im not missing anything for not using it? Good to know
i dont know who to follow now after so many videos saying it sucks i dont know if you're being sarcastic in this video or not. I really wanna make it work though its always on my blue scroll and using it only when i remember lol.
edit: well after reading the comments i now get it. lol
chaos oil when :(
never
When I saw trailer, I was like "cool they're adding the oils back". In actuality they added AN oil, and it was the worst one.
BuT SwOrD aNd ShIeLd iS a NoOb wEaPoN...
I guess its time to start #BuffDestroyerOil ?
but does it stack with the armor skill?
As far as I know, Partbreaker only works on parts that can be broken. Once you’ve broken that part, Partbreaker stops working.
Even if they did stack (I’m sure it does), Destroyer Oil is still garbage.
it still bad no one not using it anyway :(
Seems ok
thx for this
no problem
So destroyer oil = monster interruption buff?
It barely has any effect
@@SKY85sr wait, you mean you were joking in the video? I legit didn’t catch on…. Then again I have a hard time telling apart sarcasm from truth very often…
@@AyBee9725 well what you said is the intention, and in this video he explained that on implementation it barely made any differences.
You'll get to knockout monsters, trip and even stun the monster during a hunt and as this interupt the flinch hp threshold the ideal possibility of adding 3 more flinches wouldn't really matter as you are less likely to reach that supposed ideal number either way.
Man...
this is satire right
Cope
Seethe
People use SNS???? Is this a meme???
Hey! No memes allowed in my channel!
I did before sunbreak, it got nothing cool though
SnS is broken so yes
Actually its bad
No, destroyer oil is good!!
I wish the annoying buzzword you tubers would leave this game alone the clickbait is annoying
This video isn't clickbait, but okay
@@SKY85sr okay clickbait