I have a 2021 Rebel 1100 DCT nearing 15000 miles, and even done 100 several times and never had any type of wobble... its still so smooth. I haven't done anything to get past the 100 limit yet (which is doable). I have seen several people with European versions who do not have that limit on it, so I don't think Honda does that except for some market or possibly governmental reasons.
I got the Speedohealer for it I've had it up to 122 mph in 5th gear. Since I've changed the rear tire and added a bunch of accessories so it's heavier I haven't had a single wobble! The bike will now do at least 130 mph now.
As a young kid, id dream of going as fast as possible. As a middle aged man, I'm out to cruise and anything above 80-85 is asking for trouble. Not sure why youd need to go 90+ for a sustained period of time on a cruiser like this.
Hi, for a physical matter I think you have to use the windshield so that the rider's air resistance vector is reduced in favor of that of the windshield growth which, however, is placed further forward and will not cause the front wheel to lift. Thanks for your test.
Make sure the front and rear tires are perfectly in-line. Don't trust the frame marks. And keep that front tire pressure on the firm side. Standing still, hold the bike up right and shake the bike and see if its wobbly or loose feeling. Look at swing arm and steering bushings to see if they're loose.
Any naked / small fairing bike can have "high speed wobble" if you let the wind buffet your body around and feed back into the steering. With the Rebel 1100, given the cruiser-ish ergonomics, you have to lean forward and hunch down a little at high speeds. If you lean back easy rider style, the wind is going to give you trouble.
@@raybrensike42 At 300 mph, all street bikes do. So it is just a matter of what speed the wobble starts. For the Rebel 1100, most people report it at over or about 100mph (170kph). Which is where the limiter kicks in, probably by intent. You can override the limiter with various hardware modifications, and people do ride faster. Some have reported that it is actually the stock front tire that is the culprit, which makes sense: over 100 miles an hour, your tread and tire becomes a factor. I don't think anybody has reported a high speed wobble as being typical for any Rebel at any legal traffic speed or even de facto "this is a typical speed on this highway." The people reporting it are talking about occurring when doing substantially faster that surrounding traffic or on tracks. And, as I started with, the question is not if it will develop a wobble, but when. If you don't, your engine just isn't powerful enough to get fast enough. As I don't ride for speed, it doesn't affect me at all. Getting safely up to 99mph is plenty of margin that I'll likely never use, and in the weird oddball emergency (getting away from a road rage filled idiot like the one that intentionally hit Quasimotard recently), I have that margin.
Also depends how weight and high too, I am 5’4” weight 146bls with out windshield started unstable when 80 Mph with windshield a lot help up to 98 Mph but I ok for driving couple minutes. With out windshield I can’t driving 98 Mph for long.
I just came back today from a short ride and on our local private road absolutely no problems at top speed and yes the front does get a bit lighter but my fairing ( Honda Batwing ) seems to cancel the effect out while still getting up to the top speed also I found as I speed up I naturally lean into the tank which also helps keep the front down.
That is not the whole story. It wasn’t JUST TIRES. Way more riders have wore the stock rubber out with zero problems then the few that have. It SEEMS like “a lot” because the internet is great at consolidating isolated problems and making it look like the whole world has the same problem. The front end is SUPER light and under sprung. If more people knew how to properly understand tire pressure, and suspension set up this wouldn’t be an issue
The weight bias is more rearward there for the faster you go the more wind is lifting the front and bringing instability. Honda knows this that’s why the 100 mph governor.
Mine easily over 175 Ks and ran out of road so not governed in all areas (160k = 100Mph).....Bad Aerodynamics (phone goPro) on the bars will throw the balance out.. Honda rarely screw up something as important as handling... A big nothing burger...
Somebody should really investigate this. Check steering head bearings, see if there is supposed to be preload to them, see if they have worn a notch, check tire pressure, balance and wear, try new tires, try it with a heavy load on the back, try it with a passenger, put weight on the front fender, what else? I've heard numerous complaints, but not much in terms of real answers yet, unless it's just rear suspension preload, poor shocks, or worn tires. Try respringing the front forks, whatever. I hope somebody figures it out. I've been looking at the Honda 1100 to possibly buy one. Does it go away or get worse if you use the front brake, or use the rear brake?
SOME have wobbles, MOST do not. Most that have this problem hop on it with out proper suspension adjustments for their weight, and incorrect tire pressure….
Mine shakes hard under heavy accleration do a 40 roll and redline every gear. Pin the throttle, don't roll into it. Mine doesnt shake under your circumstances either just super heavy accleration.
If the tire was the issue ALL rebels would have this…. I have 23000 miles on the stock front rubber not even close to the wear bar never had any wobble that I didn’t induce with poor riding. The fact it still has tread at 23000 miles…. this supports the fact the front end is super light…
The only type of wobble that I've seen confirmed. At speed of around 80 mph when in sport mode, heavy accel to max speed. I'm talking full twist. The front tire lifts when the soft rear digs in. It just seems to make the front end light. People with saddle bags seem to have a worse effect. Though compared to all other speed wobbles of every other bike I've watched. This is nothing. Not sure if the newer models still have the same problem. But new tires and upgraded suspension removed their issue.
Held my breath watching this....glad you survived. No hands was nuts on that bumpy highway - love you, Mom!
You never ride bicycle no hands
I couldn't smell him...
@@kissass6477I have troubles riding bikes no hands but totally fine riding motorbikes no hands.
I have a 2021 Rebel 1100 DCT nearing 15000 miles, and even done 100 several times and never had any type of wobble... its still so smooth. I haven't done anything to get past the 100 limit yet (which is doable). I have seen several people with European versions who do not have that limit on it, so I don't think Honda does that except for some market or possibly governmental reasons.
I got the Speedohealer for it I've had it up to 122 mph in 5th gear. Since I've changed the rear tire and added a bunch of accessories so it's heavier I haven't had a single wobble! The bike will now do at least 130 mph now.
I’ll have to pick one up after the warranty! Thank for the info
@Peter Kay it's just a speedohealer. I do not believe it affects warranty whatsoever.
What accessories to make it stable?
You think the speedohealer would work on a DCT 1100T?
@@gavriel4137 Should work. I don't see why they would be any reason it wouldn't.
I have no issues with mine! I also installed a throttle healer and get 135mph now! No issues at all!
As a young kid, id dream of going as fast as possible. As a middle aged man, I'm out to cruise and anything above 80-85 is asking for trouble. Not sure why youd need to go 90+ for a sustained period of time on a cruiser like this.
Hi, for a physical matter I think you have to use the windshield so that the rider's air resistance vector is reduced in favor of that of the windshield growth which, however, is placed further forward and will not cause the front wheel to lift. Thanks for your test.
Make sure the front and rear tires are perfectly in-line. Don't trust the frame marks. And keep that front tire pressure on the firm side. Standing still, hold the bike up right and shake the bike and see if its wobbly or loose feeling. Look at swing arm and steering bushings to see if they're loose.
Any naked / small fairing bike can have "high speed wobble" if you let the wind buffet your body around and feed back into the steering. With the Rebel 1100, given the cruiser-ish ergonomics, you have to lean forward and hunch down a little at high speeds. If you lean back easy rider style, the wind is going to give you trouble.
No motorcycle should have a high speed wobble.
@@raybrensike42 At 300 mph, all street bikes do. So it is just a matter of what speed the wobble starts. For the Rebel 1100, most people report it at over or about 100mph (170kph). Which is where the limiter kicks in, probably by intent. You can override the limiter with various hardware modifications, and people do ride faster. Some have reported that it is actually the stock front tire that is the culprit, which makes sense: over 100 miles an hour, your tread and tire becomes a factor.
I don't think anybody has reported a high speed wobble as being typical for any Rebel at any legal traffic speed or even de facto "this is a typical speed on this highway." The people reporting it are talking about occurring when doing substantially faster that surrounding traffic or on tracks. And, as I started with, the question is not if it will develop a wobble, but when. If you don't, your engine just isn't powerful enough to get fast enough.
As I don't ride for speed, it doesn't affect me at all. Getting safely up to 99mph is plenty of margin that I'll likely never use, and in the weird oddball emergency (getting away from a road rage filled idiot like the one that intentionally hit Quasimotard recently), I have that margin.
Also depends how weight and high too,
I am 5’4” weight 146bls with out windshield started unstable when 80 Mph with windshield a lot help up to 98 Mph but I ok for driving couple minutes. With out windshield I can’t driving 98 Mph for long.
I just came back today from a short ride and on our local private road absolutely no problems at top speed and yes the front does get a bit lighter but my fairing ( Honda Batwing ) seems to cancel the effect out while still getting up to the top speed also I found as I speed up I naturally lean into the tank which also helps keep the front down.
I think the problem is that the people put the phone/phone holder on one side and it catches the wind
Rumours only. In a Facebook group they solve the problem with different tires
That is not the whole story. It wasn’t JUST TIRES. Way more riders have wore the stock rubber out with zero problems then the few that have. It SEEMS like “a lot” because the internet is great at consolidating isolated problems and making it look like the whole world has the same problem. The front end is SUPER light and under sprung. If more people knew how to properly understand tire pressure, and suspension set up this wouldn’t be an issue
The weight bias is more rearward there for the faster you go the more wind is lifting the front and bringing instability. Honda knows this that’s why the 100 mph governor.
Mine easily over 175 Ks and ran out of road so not governed in all areas (160k = 100Mph).....Bad Aerodynamics (phone goPro) on the bars will throw the balance out.. Honda rarely screw up something as important as handling... A big nothing burger...
That test was done on a flat road with no curves or bumps. I get severe wobbles all the time during city highway rides.
Somebody should really investigate this. Check steering head bearings, see if there is supposed to be preload to them, see if they have worn a notch, check tire pressure, balance and wear, try new tires, try it with a heavy load on the back, try it with a passenger, put weight on the front fender, what else? I've heard numerous complaints, but not much in terms of real answers yet, unless it's just rear suspension preload, poor shocks, or worn tires. Try respringing the front forks, whatever. I hope somebody figures it out. I've been looking at the Honda 1100 to possibly buy one. Does it go away or get worse if you use the front brake, or use the rear brake?
SOME have wobbles, MOST do not. Most that have this problem hop on it with out proper suspension adjustments for their weight, and incorrect tire pressure….
Same issue, gave the rear suspension a few clicks up and it went away for me.
Thank you for such very important review as I am considering getting one can you make a 0-60 video as well ?
Thank you again bro 💯☝🌟
I got you! I made a video comparing the Indian scout and Rebel 1100. I show the 0-60 times in that video.
Mine shakes hard under heavy accleration do a 40 roll and redline every gear. Pin the throttle, don't roll into it. Mine doesnt shake under your circumstances either just super heavy accleration.
I got 10,000 m8les on my Rebel now and never had any wobble at all over 90 miles per hour. You guys have to maybe re balance
Balance your front wheel.
What your top speed please
@@OGeffects 100 miles/h easy. Any time.
don't need that high speed to enjoy riding.
True…
Honestly I think it's pretty silly they governed the 1100 at 99mph especially considering you can break 100mh on the 500.
I agree, there is a few ECU flashes out there you can do to make it faster.
You have to go up to 99 mph to feel the wobble.
What country is that? Road looks dangerous...
USA!
Would it gain in stability if you put a fat tyre on the front?
Maybe but it would be horrible handling..
Rpm?
the dunlop tires is the issue in some cases not the bike.
If the tire was the issue ALL rebels would have this…. I have 23000 miles on the stock front rubber not even close to the wear bar never had any wobble that I didn’t induce with poor riding. The fact it still has tread at 23000 miles…. this supports the fact the front end is super light…
Buenas noches.
Creo que no es buen equipo el que llevas para hacer la prueba.
Un saludo
sounds like poor design if the front is lifting due to wind turbulence.
thanks for the content, bro.
Mine gets out of shape around 110mph
Yo la tengo y depende del asfalto y del viento si es bastante inestable y el manillar se mueve
La has llegado a poner a tope de velocidad cuanto te hace?
I just got mine 2 days ago 2024 1100 and i love it!!
The only type of wobble that I've seen confirmed. At speed of around 80 mph when in sport mode, heavy accel to max speed. I'm talking full twist. The front tire lifts when the soft rear digs in. It just seems to make the front end light. People with saddle bags seem to have a worse effect. Though compared to all other speed wobbles of every other bike I've watched. This is nothing. Not sure if the newer models still have the same problem. But new tires and upgraded suspension removed their issue.
Mine is smooth as glass up to 97 MPH with Michelin Commander 3's with OEM Tires started to get a bit shaky at 88-90 MPH
It’s a Honda so I think it’s governed for reliability. Higher speed = more friction = faster wear and tear
Great video. Concise and to the point. Thank you!
On the beter road than this one could be much beter. is bumpy where you riding at the moment.
Why would you buy a bike and it be governed? That makes as much sense as a wing on the rear of a front wheel drive
would a head cowl help with the aerodynamics? maybe that causes the wobble?
Got mine 2024 Rebel 1100 tested at 75 pretty stable no wobble. Easy to ride and fast accelerating
Like your video mate,. Question for ya, can you add a windshield to combat the wind from hitting your chest?
Excellent video. How can one find out what their bike is governed at?
It’s on Hondas main website. I just tested how fast the bike would go just to see if Honda’s restriction was accurate.
@@l-tizzle thanks
Pretty lame for an 1100 cruiser. Definately glad i watched this.
Cruisers aren't meant to speed over 100 mph. They're meant to be stylish, comfortable, and hold a lot of gear plus another person if needed.
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