5 Reasons I Hate the 2021 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT!
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- I bought the 2021 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT, and don't like it! Love my Honda Rebel 500's, but not the 1100 DCT. Here are the 5 main issues with this bike and why I hate it!
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I appreciate you opinion and thanks for sharing. I almost believed you and didn't get my DCT Rebel. I'm so glad I didn't. Picked it up this week and it's amazing. I hate manual cars and now I hate manual bikes. You should really learn how to set the DCT in the user setting to max and it'll hold the gears. Or better yet use the paddle shifters when it needs to be changed. It's a masterpiece. Long live the Honda DCT!
I've had mine for 2 weeks now and 250 miles and so far nothing but a great experience buttery smooth gear changes, plenty of power, comfortable ride.
Glad to hear! I'm still planning to do a DCT reset on mine to see if it shifts smoother afterwards.
I have a manual and my girlfriend has the automatic and I’ve ridden hers just to see what dct is like and hers is super smooth shifting to the point I was really impressed. You almost certainly have something wrong with yours. I would take it to the dealership and have the trans looked at because my girlfriends 1100 dct shifts like a Cadillac. I would definitely have that looked at.
The only thing wrong with her bike is the owner. She's just been used to a manual for so long that she can't grasp something new and foreign to her. I own a 2017 Honda CTX700 with the DCT and it shifts like butter. Sure it clunks into gear and during shifts but that's just the nature of the DCT being a geared automatic over clutches found in vehicles. I think it's so sad to see bikes get bad reviews by diseased people like this just cause they can't wrap there heads around new technology.
Came here to say this exact same thing, I worked at a local shop where we had a NC750 trade-in with a defective DCT/traction control that "clunked", previous owner got it used as/is and wanted rid of it, turns out it was was an easy fix for Honda, but we ended up taking a slight loss reselling it. It shouldn't clunk unless it's got a defective damaged clutch or traction control, thumping clunking and clicking are all the sounds those make when they're bad usually, or just wind up in D without giving you power in any setting.
That being said, not everyone likes the DCT even when they're working perfectly. I'm a big dude and they feel scootery and I've never drove anything above the 750 but it is deceptive because every scooter I've been on I could just whip that throttle and bog it down and go, you do that on anything over a 500 even though everything in your brain is going "This is a scooter! Do the scooter rules!" and you're gonna have a bad day. lol
@ Humvee Guy The dct on the 700 or 750 in europe is WAY smoother. I got both and hate only the rebel for it. Cheers
@ Dan Gilman How did you fix it?
1. U bought it w/out a test drive.
2. It is totally a different bike. Auto, not manual. Ride it like an auto.
3. Bikes not to blame.
Live & learn. 😊🍀
It's a DCT, you are not supposed to throttle off when changing gear, the computer will manage that for you. Just squish it.
The Honda DCT bikes are masterpieces. I own one for four years now. If you are not willing to get used to it, it will probably never work for you. There are so many professional bikers who tested them in the last years and they are all positive impressed.
you are delusional.
I will ride it a while longer and see if the shifting gets smoother. This is my first time with a DCT, and the differences are quite noticeable to all of our group. I was standing in a parking lot yesterday when a Goldwing DCT came cruising past. The Goldwing had to have downshifted when it came in, but I couldn't hear any shifting or see any difference, which tells me it was very smooth. That's not my bike. I've had riders riding their bikes behind my Rebel 1100 DCT, and they could hear the clunky shifting and didn't like it. I'm going to look at the DCT reset. I'm sure the DCT is a positive game changer for many. Apparently, not for me.
The DCT are indeed masterpieces. They are definitely different, but 100% worth it
I've got the Honda CTX DCT
First time I tried it, I thought it was clunky.
Now?
I love it... I'll be buying the Rebel 1100cc DCT later this year.
I heard a rumour American bikes are limited to 100mph... My 650cc (in Thailand) goes faster than that.
Yup, I love my DN01.
“If I’ve got to change gears with paddles, why not just give me a clutch?”
Because some bozo cleaned me up on a roundabout and my left hand has sustained permanent pain and nerve damage. I can’t be sure that I can reliably and consistently squeeze a clutch.
Thank the heavens for DCT! Without it, I would not still be riding.
This entire review is a whinge that the Rebel 1100 DCT isn’t what the reviewer is used to, and she states it often. Nobody likes what they aren’t familiar with. It took me a while to get comfortable with, but I love my old beast now, even the gear change clunk at 84kmph...
I’m glad you bought a manual model too. Send the reject my way...I’ll give it the love it deserves 🥰
The shifting depends upon the mode you are in. Lower response in rain better response in standard and sport. Everyone I know, once the get used to it, loves it.
Thank you for the interesting review, but I'm still gonna buy the DCT.. I'm a bit of a Rebel! ;)
I dont think women shud be reviewing dct bikes lol, thT clunk clunk sound is also heard when you shift gears with a fucking clutch. So whats the difference
Don't listen to her.
Make sure to be like this gal that buys an automatic but doesn’t like it shifting by itself… lmao no wonder women don’t get taken seriously anywhere where it’s worth it lol why won’t this automatic bike be a manual
The DCT on all Honda bikes is butter smooth. Go with it without second thoughts!
This is really an unfair review. This bike is fantastic!!! DCT is great. Like any bike you have to get used to her and know her behavior that is the beauty of riding a bike. I own the DCT. 250 miles and so far is great.
Exactly, a lot of bikes have clunky shifting. Was she in rain mode, sports mode? Bad throttle control maybe?
It was in Standard initially, then Sport mode. Sport mode was much better than Standard. I will try User mode with some adjustments. The DCT is definitely different than riding with a manual transmission, and has its own learning curve. I hope the video conveyed that riders used to a manual transmission will need to make adjustments to their riding habits with a DCT. I'm glad your bike makes you so happy! Ride safe.
Have the trans reset. It should be super smooth. Also the DCT learns your riding style after you ride it for awhile. My NC DCT doesn’t shift at all like it did when I first got it.
That is amazing!
I have dct Africa twin and it’s super smooth , when moving off or riding slow , use the foot brake more instead of thinking clutch slip , it takes practice
This is automatic maam, what to expect. But thanks for sharing
When you blindly buy an automatic, but you neither understand how an automatic works nor you understand how to operate it, ... you get this.
You're right. I thought the shifting would be more quiet and seamless as an automatic/automated. I do hope that those watching the video understand coming from a manual transmission bike or an electric bike, they will need to make adjustments in how they ride the DCT.
@@mcSal ya. Love automatic. DCT is clunky. Right about that. Gonna go electric
@@michaelm.6016 I have the Zero SR/S and it is sooooo Amazing!! It truly is a thrill to ride. But... big but... they need to improve the battery life beyond 100 miles.
@@mcSal I know. That's what stopped me from forking over the cash. Zero makes great bikes though. Just cant justify the price tag for a commuter. I love to ride in the mountains. Torque has to be exhilarating. Was looking at Enegica Esses Plus. New one gets Great range, but the bike weight close to 600lbs! I cant sacrifice maneuverability at low speeds
@@michaelm.6016 Zero SR/S torque IS amazing and instant at any speed. It can go 126 mph, and the guys have done it. The suspension is also amazing. It is so smooth, steady, and ergonomics are fabulous at 516#. I don’t know about other brands.
Manual transmissions clunk every time you shift them as well you just don't really notice it because you're using your foot to make the noise. The Honda DCT is one of the smoothest shifting transmissions in the world.
Manual mode is there so you can shift when you want. you put it in manual mode when you're doing aggressive riding and automatic mode when you aren't.
Regarding the snatchy throttle. Not being used to something and trying to use it in a manner that isn't designed for is not really fault of the machine. If someone has a problem because they are trying to use a clutch that isn't there that's kind of that person's problem
@Beijing Biden totally different transmission style. Standard automatic transmissions use clutches and bands to engage and disengage gears. There is no shifting done internally.
If you ride longer, you would learn how to ride with DCT, i can control the shifts with my throttle. It was a learning curve for me but now i love my R1100 DCT.
Thanks because I really want to get this for my next bike with DCT. Currently riding an NC700X manual.
Maybe if u put her in manual shift mode & used the "paddles" on the left-hand controls? Maybe that would help because you'd decide when to shift. Just a thought. ✌🏽🍀👊🏽
@@pcofranc you’ll love the DCT it’s truly the future. Reminds me so much of the BMW M Sports cars. Just takes that 1100 to another level. It’s awesome.
Really seems like all your gripes are akin to just learning a new bike with new tech. I didn't feel any clunkiness on the one I test rode and we went into twisties with mountainous roads. The Africa twin has a reset that may work with this as well.
Thank you for making the video. I actually love the DCT on my Rebel. I remember when the BMW M3 sports cars came out with them. It’s designed for maximum flexibility. In soft riding it’s to be effortless and extremely snappy under extreme riding. Pulling out of the corner you can adjust the shift aggressiveness in the user mode. Also if you don’t use the user mode you can manually downshift 2 gears rapidly since it’s a hydraulically controlled dual clutch and gear down rapidly to pull yourself through with the throttle. In reality the DCT is actually the future in sport riding. I frankly think it’s amazing that Honda has incorporated it in an awesome sport cruiser platform.
Sounds like you love, love, love manual bikes. Weird that you bought a DCT and gave up all your favorite features. My Africa Twin DCT is just fantastic. Very happy with it.
I thought I would love it, because I love the Zero SR/S. It didn't work out that way.
Thanks for the Great honest review - I test drove DCT at dealer last weekend since they didn't have manual demo bike...I also found gear changes where I wouldn't personally change if I was on a manual (but gear changes must've been smoother than yours with less chunkiness)...definitely, had issue with the peg bracket too - my foot kept landing on it & didn't know why until made a complete stop & I looked down...if there was a gear lever there i might get frustrated with it in the future...btw, you're the first TH-camr I found that mentioned this detail - & I watched a lot of reviews on this bike (manual & DCT versions) cuz I'm considering buying one.
I’ve never had the clunky shifts she is talking about personally. I LOVE this bike with the DCT. She has definitely had more riding experience than me though. But I am also coming off of a 2020 Triumph Rocket 3. A 2500cc monster. Haha
I love almost everything about this bike WAY more than even the Rocket. Especially the amazing handling.
That's a shame, mine shifts seemlessly with no clunky DCT engagment. There's a tutorial to reset the DCT for the Africa Twin engine somewhere on youtube, I wonder if that would solve your problem.
Btw look at that beautiful weather behind you, I wish I had that here!
Wow! That could help. Thank you for that piece of gold information!
@@JimmySnakes yes, California is mostly beautiful. Where are you?
@@mcSal I'm in upstate NY... for every 1 good day of weather there's still 6 others where it's freezing or snowing. Fingers crossed I can start riding on the daily soon : )
Towards Sacramento area
To power out of the curve just click the downshift button with your left thumb.
You say you are "just sharing your experience " but you don't have any with the DCT.
If you had the bike in Sport mode instead of std mode you would have all the power you keep asking for.
Ignorance is not knowing what you don't know.
@@Creativetruths What is the imperfection if you're riding in manual mode on the DCT? Serious question, I have 20k twisty Colorado miles on my CTX700ND and I can't determine a downside to it.
@Shawn Harty Thank you for the tip. But I did mention clicking the downshift button, which does work well. And I also said if I wanted to shift it myself, I would rather get a manual transmission, which I then did. But to say I have no experience with the DCT would suggest I don't have the DCT. I do have it, and relayed my thoughts on it after minimal owning exposure (3 weeks). They are valid thoughts and things to be aware of for any rider going from a manual transmission to the Rebel 1100 DCT for the first time. The bike has tons of power and torque, which is great. I just found the shifting clunky on my DCT. Not everyone will agree on my 5 points, but they hopefully raise an awareness in those looking to get the DCT so they go in with their eyes wide open and no surprises. You are correct. Ignorance is not knowing what you don't know. Life is all about constant learning and adaption, which is what we are all doing. We put out videos and/or watch videos so we may all continue to learn, adapt and form our own opinions.
@@mcSal the best thing you could do is apologize for writing a review based on nothing and rewrite your review after 6 months with the DCT.
@@shawnharty955 As a general rule, I don't apologize for the truth. But thank you for your concern. I may take your advice and do a 6 month review, if I still have it. I am enjoying the 1100 manual version so much more than the 1100 DCT, and bikes are all about putting a smile on each rider's face. Ride safe.
I came off of a VFR800DLX because I’m tired of sport bikes, and i love my rebel 1100 DCT. The DCT is fantastic, I don’t feel “clunkiness.” my Ninja 650 and old sportster clunked way harder than this thing, the ninja was snatchier as well. it also shifts very quickly and even if its in too high of a gear it has enough torque to pull hard enough anyway, can also downshift with the paddles and its instant, maybe she has a defective model thats not shifting right? the reason she doesn’t hear much negativity is because there isn’t much, the bike is nearly perfect except the lack of factory accessories that are actually available. I would love to see honda put DCTs on more bikes.
“I Loooooove when people tryout my bikes.”
“In the first week 2 people dropped it.”
Right?!
I have DCT on my NC750x, Africa Twin and my new Rebel. Never had issues with them. took the AT on some rough trails, rode the Rebel from Louisiana to Colorado and back, no issues. I use my NC as my around town pack mule/grocery getter. Still never had issues with it.
I'm glad you are happy with your DCTs. Either mine is needing a DCT reset, or it needs more break in time to smooth out more, or the DCT may not be for me. It really is a different way to ride vs. the Manual transmission. Was your Rebel 1100 DCT smooth shifting from the start? Or did it need a break in period? I've saw a Goldwing DCT where I couldn't tell it was shifting at all, it just did it. I thought I was going to get that with the Rebel 1100 DCT, so I'm curious how smooth shifting yours was brand new off the lot. Thanks.
@@mcSal mine was smooth from the start, NC750X was too. The Africa Twin did have a break in period, I'd say about 500-1000 miles until I realized it was shifting better. DCT has spoiled me though. I now have a VTX1800 that rarely moves lol
Sorry you are having that “clunking” between gears. I have a 2020 Goldwing DCT and a Rebel 1100 DCT and have not experienced that problem. You can’t even feel the shifting when it shifts. I think there might be something wrong with that bike. I’ve been riding for over 50 years, always with the a clutch, and did find the DCT a turn off when I initially heard about it. After riding a Gold Wing DCT I bought it and haven’t looked back. That’s why I bought this DCT Rebel 1100. You are right about the throttle being a little twitchy, especially in slow cornering, but I can deal with it using a little rear braking while slow speed turning. Also, I totally agree with your assessment about the foot pegs. The positioning sucks. Overall I like the way the bike looks and love the way it runs, especially in “Sport” mode. You better have a good hand on the bars when you twist that throttle.
You are not the first to mention having an 1100 DCT with smooth shifting. Looks like I need to schedule a maintenance day with the dealership. Thank you for sharing your observations! I just spoke with one of our group tonight, and he said he could hear the clunk each time the 1100 DCT shifted when he rode his bike behind it on a ride. I also love how the 1100 looks, it sits well, and I love the power. Yes, when it takes off, hang on tight! Thank you!
Hi great review.
I have the DCT 750x and it does exactly what yours does and I often ride it dribbling around town. After a while it exhibits the same issues of clunky gears changes and also seems to be in too higher gear. The solution on my bike is simple and very effective , just reset the dct it’s straight forward and the bike is transformed immediately. After the reset the clunking gear changes are almost eliminated and the bike shifts into the right gear all the time including pulling out of bends.
Thank you! Good to hear I'm not alone. Lol. Thank you for sharing great information! I will be checking out how to do a DCT reset.
@@mcSal
Thanks for the reply 😀👍👍
This is how it works on my NC, fast forward towards the end of the vid, very simple procedure , I’ve kept it on the notes on my iphone to save looking it up. Let me know how it goes 😃
th-cam.com/video/STr8VI8DB50/w-d-xo.html
@@Gabbottube Thank you so much! That video talks about the clunky DCT shifting and how to reset the DCT for smoother shifting. I feel validated! I'm going to try it. Thank you!
@@mcSal excellent 😃👍👍
I test drove a dct Africa Twin, and i own a manual one. The dct is fantastic imho. The instructor told us you need to ride it for some time to learn how to use it properly, and you HAVE to use the manual shift buttons, it's there for a reason. I absolutely used it to up and downshift, just as if I was riding with a manual. Just use the appropriate engine map: on the Africa it was Sport2.
Thank you for the great info!
I have been driving motorcycles with a clutch for 55 years but recently had to sell my Harley due to bad arthritis in my left hand and leg - so needed to take a chance on the DCT. Love your comments and agree with all the points you raise especially how it takes time to get used to the throttle by wire and how the automatic reacts at slow speeds - you need to practice low speed maneuvering or you will dump the bike I guarantee. For erratic shifting you may just need to reset the DTC module - but I always drive in manual mode so I can control the RPM and shifting - shifting at higher RPM is very smooth and responsive. and I choose the gear going in and coming out of curves.Overall great fan of the bike. PS I removed the foot peg protectors 4 minutes after picking up the bike.
I have one put about 900 miles on it and I love it to death if you put it in normal mode it's just smooth as can be sport mode you feel a grab every gear hard
After two back surgeries my left foot is basically paralyzed. I can’t shift manually anymore! Thank God for DCT!
I’m sorry about your foot, but the DCT should be a great bike for you! I can see a lot of value with it. I’m just not a fan. But that doesn’t negate its value to others. Ride safe.
automatic what do we expect manual? there is a manual version why choose dct. I will still go for DCT
I only hear it drop when shifting into 2nd, and the user mode has an option to adjust the shifting. I have my DCT setting all the way up and NEVER shift above 4th while cruising at 32. The corners take some getting used to, but like I said it sounds like a DCT setting issue. Sorry you hate the bike but I love mine and I've already put 1500+ miles in a month:D Great video though.
It sounds like a programming issue...should shift smoothly. I’d talk to the dealership about checking it out.
Beginner motorcyclist. Now having Rebel 1100 DCT (2022 model) for about 4 weeks ... my first bike ever... and I absolutely love it. First 2 weeks drove in Rain mode. Then made user mode with P2, T3, EB1, D2 and still love it. In hindsight, should have made user mode with Rain mode + D2 (P1, T3, EB1, D2 (instead of D1 in Rain)) and would have been perfect newbie mode. When you feel more comfortable you can start increasing the P setting.
1) the audible lil bit annoying clunk is only from N to 1 and maybe a little bit from 1 to 2. After that I don't even notice it. More irritating (and tbh only dislike I have about this bike) is engine breaking when it drops from 2 to 1 too early ... ughh.
How ever your endless whine about missing clutch lever and shifter is just absurd -- it's AUTOMATIC. It's not supposed to have those. deal with it, but obviously it's too hard to teach the old dog new tricks? You should have bought manual.
2) mmm... no? usually quite fine. Maybe should upshift a little faster (when you throttle fast)... when I "jump" from red light and go from 0 to 60 "fast" I end up being in 60 in 2nd or 3rd gear and have to manually help it along with the "flippers", otherwise it seems it will stay in the 2/3rd gear forever... other than that, it feels quite nice.
3) no idea what you are talking about. Maybe pull throttle a little sooner in the curve so your possible throttle lag issue will be resolved when you want it? and/or it's a lot better on my 2022 model...
4) another "ok boomer" moment. again the "no cluth lever" issue. BUY MANUAL if you don't like automatic and have 0 willingness to learn/adapt/evolve.
pro tip ...or actually newbie tip to "old pro": when you let other boomers with clutch lever grabbing addiction, to try out your new bike with automatic, put it into Standard or even Rain mode, so they are more unlikely to end up in the situations where they want to grab the clutch?
5) weird. never happened to me. ever. I never even lift the legs so high it could possibly go over the guard... why are you doing air squats on your bike? lol.
I currently have a 2022 Rebel 1100 DCT on reserve at my local dealer. I am a brand new rider and have only ridden a motorcycle in the motorcycle safety class I just completed 2 weeks ago to get my license endorsement. My only fear I have is the throttle being too responsive. Does the rain mode make it a lot easier to ease onto the gas?
@@benjaminelliott8078 I had the same experience as you Ben. I bought the 2022 rebel DCT as my first bike. And I bought it a week prior to taking my riders course. lol. Because the bike was so hard to find around March timeframe. The throttle will be touchy at first, but just slowly turn the handle. It will take some time for you to get used to, but if you take it slow and with confidence you’ll be fine man. I love the bike by the way.
Patience pays off
Is the DCT still for sale? How do you like the zero?
I think this is a fair review. The lack of control, when and where you need it, can be off putting.
Sounds like it is working as intended, don't get the auto if you want to choose what gear your in.
All the things she said was symptoms of a person who don't know how to handle a DCT.
@@longhornpb I agree... she clearly doesn't understand what she bought.
True. I didn't realize the DCT is a different riding style.
@@mcSal It very much is. I will say that I'm hearing a lot of other reviewers agree with you about the throttle though, on both the DCT and Manual versions.
@@theimmortalgriffithdavion1592 I have a DCT and the throttle is definitely sensitive at low RPMs. Trying to hold it at 15 or 20 MPH can be a challenge especially without a clutch and with engine braking set high. The shifting, however, has been fine for me when I put the mode to standard. It never seems to be in the wrong gear. In rain mode, yes, gets to 6 early and stays there. But in Standard mode its much better. I will be playing with the custom user mode to tweak it to my liking. Standard is pretty darn close.
Folks, this review is based purely on a subjective opinion. Don’t let this put you off from considering a DCT version. Do more research or take a test ride if you can, and make your own judgment.
Exactly!
I don’t get why her first complaint was lack of manual clutch when she bought an automatic. I thought it was a joke but then realize she was serious.
A poor opinion by a cluless wannabe rider
I've got a NC700X with DCT (for around town) and a Kawasaki Concours C-14 for the highway. I've got enough miles on the DCT Honda to be used to it, although switching back and forth can actually be kinda dangerous if you're just daydreaming - like forgetting you have to shift the manual C-14 down and pull in the clutch when coming to a stop, or, worse, forgetting to shift into 1st at a stop and trying to take off in 3rd or 4th gear and stalling in the intersection. I bought the DCT after screwing up my left foot because it really hurt to shift. 3 years later and I can shift now OK but I'm really considering getting the Rebel 1100 DCT and selling the C-14, so I won't have to switch back and forth (getting old and forgetful).
Anyway - change is always hard.
And you can take that guard off of both sides and put the screws back in.
Great idea!
I had a 700NCXD and never noticed a clunk when it shifted and haven't seen any other complaints about that (NC, Africa Twin, Rebel or Goldwing) that I recall. You may be especially sensitive to the DCT shifting and getting rid of it is your best option. Or there may be a problem with your particular Rebel 1100. I'd take it back to the dealer and ask them to test ride it and look for Honda TSB's (technical service bulletins) on DCT equipped bikes for similar problems. If it is a known problem and they fix it, you will be doing who ever buys it from you a favor.
I appreciate your comments. There could very well be an issue with my 1100 DCT. I will follow up on some of your suggestions. Thank you!
Every reviewer said the DCT shifting UP/DOWN was smooth as butter across all the Honda models.
I just talked with another Rebel 1100 DCT owner and all he heard was the change in RPM when it shifts. No clunking.
I think the one you had is probably a bad copy.
same all ive heard was good new i respect her opinion but im still gonna get it
@@kalanivalentine Did you get it? how do you like the DCT
@@Sean-yk2cf I got one a few days ago. I love it! It’s amazing. No regrets! And that’s from someone coming off of a Rocket 3 with 2500cc and 140+ hp. 😂
This thing handles like a dream!
You can reset DCT and would be fine
Those are all of the reasons that I wouldn't even consider a DCT. I can't even imagine 6th gear at 33mph but every video you see shows the same thing. I loved my red manual 1100 so much that I went and purchased another one. On the flip side, I think that there is a market for this bike for those who thought they'd have to give up riding because of some malady or another. For them, this bike is a godsend.
I agree 100%!!
@@mcSal Well, at least it sounds like you have a nice market to sell this bike to!
Doesn't do that in sport mode......
I became disabled in September of 03 from a work injury and this bike with a sidecar wound be great! I'm not in THE chair yet but it's close and I can't trust my leg's to support the bike when I come to a stop. Adding a passenger amplifies the difficulty...lol....from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe
@@billallen4793 I hope that everything works out for you.
So everyone who likes their DCT is wrong? Watch some videos of riders on their DCT's. The shifting seems pretty smooth to me. And why to you mount you bike from the wrong side?
Nope. Not saying that at all. Just sharing my experience with the DCT. I love the 1100 Manual version, though! I only mounted from the off side because I didn't want to walk in front of the video camera. I did see someone else's video where his bike shook when he approached 100 mph. My 1100 DCT doesn't do that. It holds its own quite well at any speed. My bike could be an odd ball. Or maybe I'm just more sensitive to the clunkiness when it shifts. If it was my only ride, I would get used to it fast and it probably wouldn't bother me. But I have lots of bikes to ride. All the other riders that have ridden this 1100 DCT have noticed the same things, including the guys at the dealership where I purchased the Manual 1100, but it bothers some more than others.
@@mcSal Ok, fair enough. Good to hear all comments on the DCT, good and bad. I was intrigued with the idea of a DCT but opted for the manual model and happy I did. Plus the DCT is $1000 extra in Canada.
@@mcSal the one where his bike shook was Lifeofburch and he made an update one to say why. It was how he had his large phone mounted on one side of the bars and it acting as a sail at speed.
th-cam.com/video/Q4r0oxQRBtQ/w-d-xo.html
@@jimporter I remember that now that you said it! Thank you! It was hard to believe that the placement of his phone on the handlebar caused the bike to be unstable at high speeds. Wow!
@@mcSal sounds like it's designed right on the edge of headshake/tankslapper. If it were my bike I'd add a quality steering dampner on it so you can add weight with a fork bag or a big phone without issue....from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe
Thank you! I definitely will not get the DCT! I need control, and your report proved my control would be absent! Thank you!
You do have control if you use the paddles to downshift when you would want to downshift. But if I need to use the paddles, I may as well get the manual… which I did.
Thank you for sharing your video. I just picked up my Rebel 1100 DCT a few days ago. I have been an avid rider for many years. This is my 4th Honda. I totally love this bike.
First of all a great video. I own the red DCT just like yours. A couple of things I agree with is the foot peg issue. Ok and the the sixth gear issue on curves. I have trained myself to manually down shift coming out of a twisty if I need the extra power. I made a user mode setting that works very well with my riding habits. You should try that. The only clunk I ever hear is the first to second gear. Not a issue with me. It looks like you are not in a city traffic area. The DCT is amazing in city traffic or if your at a light and want to stretch without hunting for neutral. I feel like this bike is perfect for me. That's why I Love my 2021 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT.
Thank you for your comments! I am thrilled that you love your bike so much! You're right. I'm way out in a rural area. I also think it would be great for stop & go city traffic. That's just not what I have around me. We all need to find the right bike(s) that make us the happiest.
I’ve had a red DCT model since mid Feb, have run it for about 1500 miles and love it as well. The short gearing is an issue in Rain or Standard mode. I set up my User mode at Power 3, TC 1, EB 1, and D at 3 (difference from Sport is less engine braking…find it less ‘snatchy’ rolling of throttle) and find gear changes happen at much higher speeds. My shifts are also buttery smooth, none of the ‘clunking’ described in the video.
It’s definitely a different experience vs. a manual transmission and if you’ve never used a DCT after long years of riding, it’s going to take some adjustment. That being said, mine is used mostly to commute around town and riding through traffic with a DCT is such a joy comparatively.
Got my 2024 dct a couple weeks ago. No complaints especially in the city stop and go driving
What is urking me about this is how much she just doesnt do anything about the problems she faces. I have DCT also and I can agree that is likes to be at a higher gear, but it is just not true about the how clunky the shifting is. The gear shifting is incredibly smooth. Its so smooth that you wont even realize youre in 6th. If you dont like the power output in corners then dont have it in standard or just use manual, or set the gearing to be aggressive with lower power. It keeps revs high in sport mode the lowest in 4th is 35 mph and it is very aggressive with the shifting depending on the change of speed.
Then says its too jumpy at starts, which is only in sport mode. Standard and rain you can feel the clutch slowly grab as you roll the throttle. Like what, why complain about something because its took snappy then also complain that its too timid?
The foot position took me the first right to get used to. I currently have 3600 miles on mine.
I've really enjoyed your well made bike reviews and comparisons. Thanks for taking the time to relay your observations to everyone. It's a great help. I bought a Rebel 1100 DCT two months ago. I came from a CVT large maxi-scooter.. The DCT was quite different from the smooth shifting cvt, and it did feel somewhat clunky for about two weeks. Once I got used to it, and how to finesse the throttle in each mode, the bike is a smooth shifting dream of a motorcycle. I would be more patient with it, but if you got the Zero, it will be just as good or better.
Thank you! I'm glad you are enjoying your DCT! At least you know what I mean. I have so many other bikes to ride, that I don't ride the DCT solid, so I really notice the shifting difference. And yes, the Zero is Awesome!! So smoooooth! I think the Zero SR/S and it's extreme smoothness really made the 1100 DCT shifting more noticeable. That will be a fun comparison!
And... Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the DCT & maxi-scooter!
My dct doesn't make any weird noise or anything when shifting. Something is prolly wrong with it. Also sport mode constantly keeps me high up in the powerband so I don't know why she is getting stuck in 6th gear using sport mode. You can fix the touchy throttle by using the user mode and keeping everything the same as sport mode but lowering the power setting to 2. It will be less snatchy but still full power if u twist it all the way.
I have tested every mode except User, and have liked Sport mode the best so far. Thank you for the tips! I'll set up User mode per your comments. I had a rider riding his bike behind the DCT on a ride, and he hates the DCT simply because he could hear it clunking ahead of him each time it shifted. It's not just my imagination! I erroneously assumed this was a common thing with the Rebel 1100 DCT's. It is good to know so many others have no clunky shifting issues. Thank you!
I wonder if you actually have a faulty DCT, or it needs reset. Some reviewers have mentioned the jerky throttle at low speeds when is sport mode. My experience with the DCT comes from my 2015 Honda CTX700. This bike does not seem to have the issues you mentioned. The DCT on the bike is awesome. Hope you get it worked out.
Thank you! I'm going to do a reset.
I feel like this could be narrowed down to “I hate that I got a bike without a clutch”
And add…. That doesn’t shift smoothly.
So much bad advice in this video. DCT owns. I have 20k miles on my CTX700ND and I ride it in manual mode all the time and have none of these issues.
Thank you for your comments. I am happy that you have not experienced any of these issues.
@@Creativetruths I just remind myself that they are not here riding this particular bike and experiencing what we all here are experiencing with this bike. Obviously, different people have different experiences with the DCT, and I’m glad it makes a lot of people happy. I try to keep it all in perspective. They are welcome to come try my DCT out and see for themselves! I stand by the video. It was honestly made, as anyone would see that rode my DCT. Thank you so much for your support.
Sal you are my 4 cyl spirit animal! Excellent review and you claim exactly why I do not trust DCT drive..I prefer control whether its engaging clutch or disengaging the clutch, I want to be in control especially going INTO a curve or coming OUT from a curve...The Honda Rebel 1100 is a well built machine but when you told me several people dropped the bike that cemented the deal..Its not for everyone and I ride a Honda Magna V4 monster! LOL.. p.s. I cannot imagine riding a Honda Goldwing DCT..No way! Its a beautiful bike but, give me CLUTCH!!!
The DCT takes some getting used to. I have an Africa Twin Adventure Sports with DCT and I love most everything about it. There are some good videos about riding with the DCT and how the back brake creates that friction zone you loose without the clutch. I ride a lot in drive mode which gives you the greatest gas mileage but yes in that mode you will be in too high a gear into a turn and have to use the paddle shifters to correct. However recently on one of my favorite twisty roads I tried the sport modes and what a difference. Sport mode 2 had the bike up shifting and down shifting just as I would do it with a clutch. My issues with the Africa Twin are the high seat height and the bike being very top heavy. Other than that it is great. After riding with the DCT for a while I think I would love the Rebel with DCT and the low seat height!
Thank you for your great thoughts. Sports mode is definitely better than Standard mode. I think you would love the Rebel 1100 with its low seat height and great ergonomics (not top heavy).
I have had the same bike as yours and I love it after riding bikes for 58 years.
Hi, I'm just getting into bikes. DCT's in cars are supposed to be great, super quick shifting and seamless shifting. There could be something wrong with the transmission. If dealer doesn't want to help, contact Honda directly.
Thank you! I am believing more and more that this is the case. I will get with the dealer.
The reality of the Honda Rebel 1100 DCT ***BIG SCOOTER W/FEW GEARS***. For people with Arthritis and disabilities. Right to the point. God bless USA 🇺🇸.
There seem to be two totally different sides taken on the DCT. Many riders share your view, and many riders seem to love it. It's not my favorite, nor is the Honda DCT quad I also purchased. But there is one person in my group (normally rides a Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200) that likes the DCT because of the power and non-shifting.
Yes I agree about the foot clearence with the peg but the DCT is awesome
That snatchy throttle seems to be related to too lean a mixture. It’s also on the Kawasaki 650 engines. They use a booster plug to mitigate it.
As a 1100 DCT owner I would disagree with many of your comments but I certainly understand that different people have differents experiences. Is it possible that, as an experienced rider, you simply are not used to ride a bike with no clucth? I would also argue that some of the problems you pointed out would be much less noticible as you put more miles on the bike. But one thing I absolutly want to know: What is the windshield we see on the bike?? Where did you buy it?? Thanks and ride safe.
I agree. These things would be far less noticeable with a person putting more miles on the bike. I do mention that at one point. One thing I didn’t mention... I also purchased a new Zero SR/S Premier (top of the line) recently. It is smooth, powerful and Magnificent, and the 1100 DCT feels like a real clunker in comparison. I’ll be doing a video comparison before selling the DCT. Neither bike requires a manual clutch.
@@mcSal What about the windshield on the 1100 DCT???
@@gaboufleur Slipstreamer SS-24-C on Amazon. It is a generic windscreen that works great on the Rebel 500's and 1100's, although it fits a bit differently on each bike type. It takes anywhere from 10 - 30 minutes to install, depending on if you secure just to the bars or also to the forks. It is super easy to install. I installed just to the bars on the 500's and the 1100 DCT, but also secured to the forks on the 1100 manual. I love windshields and put something on all my bikes (except the little Grom!)
Wow you’re 100% right I bought the rebel 1100 DTC today and I kind of wish I didn’t but hopefully it will grow on me
It will grow on you as you get used to it. The Rebel 1100’s are great bikes. The DTC just takes some getting used to, unless you have prior experience with a DTC. In my experience, every bike has things to love, and things you would like to change. Enjoy and ride safe!
@@mcSal Thanks I’ve been riding all day Starting to get used to it but still miss my clutch
Not everything is built perfect, but I do like the fact that you pointed out some of the flaws. It’s good to know.
Had a rebel 110 DCT - BEWARE
I owned a rebel 1100 DCT for a couple of months and had a major, major problem. I had my bike service at 450 miles. On my ride home I noticed that the bike DCT transmission was engaging while I was stopped. I ignored the issue hoping that it was an one off. After riding the bike for ~200 miles the DCT transmission engaged again while I was stopped and the bike transmission/power over rode the braking system (Front and Back brakes) and took off. I tried with all of my energy to stop the bike but it wouldn't hold. I ended up crashing into a wall, broke a couple of ribs and my collar bone. I do not know if this has happened to anyone else? There is no clutch to override so BEWARE and practice hitting the kill switch!
Wow!!!! What a horrible experience!! Haven’t heard of this as an issue before, but thank goodness it’s not prevalent. I think if it happened to me, my first thought would be to counter and hit the brakes, like you. Then I t would take a minute to think about turning off the key, and by that time it’s too late. It all happens so fast. Sounds like the service department may owe you a new bike and more. Hope you have recovered! And glad it’s not a common issue!
@@mcSal To tell you the truth my first and only thought was to try and stop the bike...I should have hit the kill switch
@@jackshapiro9875 I get it. It’s not something one plans for. We are taught to practice slow speed maneuvers, not how to stop a runaway bike. How are you after such a traumatic incident? Bet you’re not going back to automatic bikes!
I've owned many cars and motorcycles. Very few cars with automatics and I defiantly prefer manuel transmissions. I luv the control and mechanical feel of going through the gears on a manuel transmission that you just don't get with automatic transmissions. I currently own 2 cars and two motorcycles. All manuel. Great vid btw. Nice honest review:)
It's NOT a clutch lever on the bottom side of the engine! It's a SHIFT lever.
You are correct!
I have to disagree. I upgraded from the Rebel 500 also. But I got a 2023. Perhaps this latest generation (7th) is better. The shifting is silky smooth even in sport mode. Shifts quickly and smoothly, better than any human or at least me. Very very refined. I programmed the 4 parameters and it’s perfect for my riding. I’ve ridden bikes for 40 years, all kinds of bikes. This is the best bike I’ve ever owned and for the purists with the manual shifting and clutch, I say don’t knock it til you try it. Most today wouldn’t consider driving a manual shift car yet they won’t consider this. Go figure. Its brilliant. Just go or stop. It knows what you want when you want. My 100 pound, 5 foot girlfriend rides it with ease. It also handles as well or better than the 109 pound lighter 500, amazingly. My only niggles are no self cancelling turn signals and no exterior battery tender plug, I had to install (a 15 minute fix). Honda hit this one out of the park! This is the future with only a 20 pound weight penalty vs the manual version.
So you bought an automatic transmission after only riding manuals and expected to not change your riding style??? That's your issue, not the bike's. You can't expect to ride it the same way. Also the clunking is because you're pushing new bike too hard. It needs time to break in
You are correct. I did not realize the DCT requires a different riding style. I thought it would be more like the Zero SR/S, which I also own, but it's definitely not like the Zero at all.
Thank you for his valuable information. They won’t let me test ride it. I am fairly a new rider.
Thank you! I hope you get the bike you want.
Lady, you need to retrain your riding style. Get that bike serviced because I rode the DCT and I didn't hear any clunking shifting or "long gears". Did they put enough oil in your bike? Sounds like the bike is malfunctioning coupled with the fact you are coming off a manual you need to retrain your riding style.
You are right. It is definitely a different experience coming from a Manual transmission to a DCT, and there is a learning curve. And yes, I do think now that the bike needs to get checked out for the clunky shifting. Thank you for your comments.
Honesty at first thank you. By the way where did you buy this huge nice screen.
I really admire your love for motorcycles and your wish for others try your motorcycles. That's great. I think you will be a perfect motorcycle instructor. If I were in west coast, I would certainly visit your place.
If you feeling or hearing a clunk then something mechanically is wrong. It shouldn't sound like that.
You could be right. Everyone that rides it notices the clunk between gears. It doesn't bother everyone, though, like it did me. Another 1100 DCT owner says the gear changes are quiet and seamless. Not on mine.
I dig the new color. Hope they will release that color in my country
I hope so, too, because it's Beautiful!!
I love the burgundy. Hard to find matching helmet colors. I found you have to find wine as a helmet color to match. Dark Red or even burgundy, doesn’t quite match.
Pretty surprised about the concerns you had with the 1100.
Great content as always, Sal 😁
Thank you! I was very surprised by the 1100 DCT. I thought I would love it, but not the case.
@@mcSal it's a very new approach to cruiser bikes, so it's not surprising that it's got these flaws.
I know it'll improve in time. Until then, you've got two of my dream bikes (the other one is the Rebel 500 😆)
@@henryrevitajr I do love the 1100 manual transmission that I recently purchased. And I always love the Rebel 500, too.
@@mcSal oh Bless you 😁 and Bless these beautiful bikes hahaha 😄
I love my 1100 DCT but I figured out that you can put the DCT setting on the user mode on max and it will upshift much later. The paddle shifters fine tune my shifts if I want later or sooner.
Ok I also acquired the 2022 1100 DCT HINDA Rebel recently and there is one part I hate and again it's because it's a DCT when you engage it just like on a car when you put it on drive mode. Sometime on a stop sign it tends to want to go forward there's a slight resistance and the only way to get around it is you have to take the brake lever to press the neutral button. Also when doing a reverse you have to go to neutral if I had a manual all I have to do is engage the clutch and it's the gears are freed up. Lastly It stalls on stoplight I did a DCT reset and so far it's been behaving still not convinced the issue is fixed I stalled at least 4 times on a stop light and got caught when the light turned green No Bueno. Ok that's my 2 cent
I am so glad I got the manual. You are correct. I put my foot on that stupid raised part on left. The Dual Rebel is dangerous without a clutch.
You have to ride a dct different. It’s not a regular clutch bike. The foot pegs are made for bigger riders. Your assessment is because you want it to be a 500. It’s a damn 1100. It the big brother. If you don’t like it. Return it. You got the wrong bike for your riding style. Don’t hate Honda or the bike. You just got the wrong bike.
I definitely got the wrong bike. I love my Rebel 1100 Manual, though.
Not trying to nitpick or be condescending but it sounds to me like you don’t know how to ride this particular model of bike well.
#1-Not only have I ridden the DCT, but I did a ton of research before hand and not one time in all my rides or any of the reviews did the shifting go “ca-chunk”. No one heard or felt what you are talking about during the shifting of the transmission. Every review I’ve seen and heard said it’s super smooth and you can’t even tell when in automatic that the gear even shifted unless you look down at your gauge. Maybe you got one with a bad transmission.
#2- just like an automatic car, transmissions will shift into the higher gears faster or eco mode, and in most cases be cruising around at 35 miles an hour in its highest gear. This is expected and observed in all new modern transmissions today especially with the focus on gas economy. The nice thing about the DCT is you can change modes on the bike to give you more power, less engine braking and more torque, just like sport modes in an automatic car, thus increasing the rpms and allowing you to be in a lower gear to gain faster acceleration. This is real basic.
#3- Two things you need to practice on the DCT. If you want torque or speed coming out of a corner, throw it in manual and use it like you would a race car and accelerate out of that corner. Again, something easily done but switching to the manual user mode. Second, crank on the gas. This 1100 has enough giddy up to really push the bike even coming out of the corners. If you are not getting that response, check your mode as you might have it in low power or rain mode.
#4- Get used to the take off on this bike. The quicker you get to speed, the less you will
Likely dump the bike. Get use to its responsive throttle and spot trying to treat it as a manual clutch bike. It’s not.
#5- I actually agree with you on this one. It’s a funky design. I went ahead and added some forward foot pedals and now I don’t have that problem. Purely a design flaw, easy to fix.
Thank you for your very well thought out comments. You're right. I'm new to the DCT world, so the Rebel 1100 DCT is a learning process for me. I just relayed my initial thoughts to give others a clue what to watch for when they look at the bike for the first time. Thank you for the great tips! I did purchase the 1100 Manual version and find it has a much bigger fun factor than the 1100 DCT for me.
If you are an experienced rider you should have put the bike in sport mode and it would have eliminated those issues you mentioned. I am curious as to whether or not you ended up taking the time to really explore the settings and whether you kept the bike or not? Please let use know. Thank you
Sounds like a remapping might fix the problem. Sounds like a software issue 🤔 being snatchy & slow gear changes.
ride the bike around until it's fully warmed up. don't just idle, transmission needs to be at normal operating temp as well for best results. park it and shut it off with the key. Hold D and turn the bike on with the key. Do not start the engine. when the check engine light goes out, release D, then press DDNDN. the gear indicator should then show a bar in the middle and the user ride mode display should start flashing. During this time the bike is adjusting, so just wait. When the gear indicator switches back to N and the user mode display stops blinking, it is finished. turn the ignition off, back on, and it's ready to go. it will be noticeably smoother. Honda does this every time the bike is serviced, think of it as the DCT version of checking and adjusting clutch cables and shifter linkages.
Same procedure on a VW DSG transmission. Fluid is changed every 40k miles, and the same procedure is used once transmission is up to temperature, it' adjusts the friction points for clutch and engagement for all 6 gears, both shifting up and shifting down. Programmed parameters for clutch wear.
I have the bike and it doss not make anymore noise than any other bike I’ve rode. In fact its quieter. Its great.
Love my Rebel 1100 Manual....less Tech means less to go wrong. I've never been a fan of automatic gearboxes.
I cannot agree with you. I just traded my Harley Road Glide for a 2024 Rebel 1100 DCT and I LOVE IT! It is so fun to ride and I love the DCT. There are times that I have felt like I wanted to downshift so I tapped the paddle and bam, I'm where I thought I wanted to be. But 99% of the time, I just let the DCT do its work and I don't look at the gears all the time, because on this bike, it doesn't matter. You're talking about being in a gear when you think it should be a different gear - but that's on a manual. Not sure what it did in 2021 but now the bike knows when you are on a curve so it doesn't upshift to keep more power and torque now. Most people drive automatic cars and when was the last time soneone complained about how it shifted? Never. Because we are all used to how it shifts. You want to pass, slam on the gas and let the transmission downshift. Well the DCT does the same thing. Don't have to think about it and can fully enjoy the ride. I love the DCT and it seems to be working tremendously for me
Regarding the snatchy throttle and people dropping it, could it be because of the selected riding mode? I'd assume Sport mode would cause that to a new rider, but Rain and Standard wouldn't. I can't talk about the sound/feel of the gears changing, but out of that list the only thing that seemed like an actual problem is the left pedal. Everything else seems to be pretty much about getting used to a different style of bike. One would probably be complaining about the opposite thing if they rode their entire life on DCT bikes and suddenly changed to a manual bike: "How come I need to think about which gear to shift to when coming out of a turn? Come on, Honda, make your bike smarter!"
Sal, where did you buy your windshield? I was going to buy the DCT version, but I changed my mind after doing some research. My manual version is supposed to come in soon. Maybe a week or two. I can't wait.
The windshield is listed in the video description. It is a SlipStreamer generic cruiser windshield from Amazon. You're going to LOVE your new bike!
It shouldn't be clunky at all. From what I'v seen it should be butter smooth. So it makes a noise while shifting. If that's a dealbreaker then do you get irritated when a manual shift bike makes a noise when shifting?
When youi need a lower gear you press the gear shift on the left side. Not difficult.
If you aren't using the power it uses the higher gears.
You know you are coming out of a corner. Press the downshift.
Use rain, or custom in city driving.
You bought an automatic bike and hate it....so go buy the manual. It clearly isn't the right bike for you.
You are correct... it is not the right bike for me. I think that's pretty clear. My DCT is not "butter smooth". I wish it was, because I'd like it a lot better. I did another video, part 2 (The Ride) in a series of 3 videos comparing the Rebel 1100 Manual vs the Rebel 1100 DCT. Yes, I now have both bikes. In that video, you can see and hear the clunky shifting on the DCT, even with the microphone inside the helmet and behind the visor.
I feel obligated to comment, Honda DCT’s DO NOT have clunky shifting unless the bike has not been correctly initialized, either at the factory or by the dealer. On my 2018 Wing the shifts are virtually undetectable aside from hearing them on the 1 to 2 shifts. Although this is for the Wing it’s the same procedure Honda has used for years with the DCT. Try it and see if it works better. th-cam.com/video/5P6eKUzrI1U/w-d-xo.html
Thank you! I will try it.
thanks for your honest feedback!!!! much love
It's not the bike. It's the rider. As others have said, you need to learn how to properly adjust your rider settings before you trash a product. People (me) watch reviews and make decisions based on them. This review could cause someone to pass on a FANTASTIC bike. I love my Rebel 1100 DCT, Bordeaux Red Metallic. On a positive note, I love your windshield!
Hey Sal, really great points. We get more confidence when we manage the bike with clutch. I am waiting for my Rebel manual.
I really like windshield you installed, it looks great.
Thanks Sal...great to get a straight opinion. Did you try sports mode though ? Makes a big difference on my NC750X. All the best from jolly old England 🏴
Thank you! I started in Standard mode, then switched to Sport mode. It does ride much better in Sport mode. Still clunks when it shifts, though. I'm glad you enjoy your NC750X! Ride safe.
How about the mounting hardware for the Rebel? You have a great review.
The mounting hardware for the windshield? It comes with the windshield. I put the windshield link in the video description. I tighten the windshield mounting screws before each ride.
I wish you would have mentioned how many miles you'd ridden the DCT. I feel you haven't given yourself a chance to get accustomed to how to ride this motorcycle. Like others have said, all the pro motojournalist LOVE this motorcycle. I don't have mine yet but have the deposit down for the next one my dealer gets in and I can't wait. I've owned 32 or so bikes. Many have things you need to get used to, not shifting is a big one! I've owned several scooters so yes, it's different from a bike that you shift yourself. Bit of mental recalibration happens over the miles.
Final though, your bike has a fault in the DCT nobody else complains about clunking....
Have Honda check it ASAP.
Cheers.
You're right. And I'm believing more and more there's an issue with my bike that I need to get checked out. Thank you!
You won’t regret it. The DCT is amazing. I’m assuming you have it now though. 🤣
I've done the same. Pre ordered/bought a new bike without a test ride believing I would love it based on looks and specs but within 1 mile of riding it home I knew it wasn't for me. The bike I am speaking of is the Triumph trident. Lesson learned. I am replacing it with a triumph street twin which i've test ridden before. I've realized I like low down torque and a more relaxed riding position.
I also have the Triumph Street Twin. Great bike! Lots of torque and super agile. Hope you love it! I never would have guessed on the Trident.
Great honest review on the DCT and explanation of real world issues with the design of the bike. Now I'm glad I got a Vulcan 650 instead of this bike, but I will surely get a manual rebel 1100 in the future when the used market picks up the bike.
As someone who owned a Vulcan S 650 for two years and rode it almost every day, including long trips, and test rode ANOTHER one literally a day before riding the Rebel 1100 DCT, let me tell you, it’s night and day.
I love the Vulcan. Was thinking of getting another one too but the Rebel has it beat in every single way when it comes to ride quality, tech, WAY better in handling too.
You really owe it to yourself to try and get one of these amazing bikes. DCT or not. Doesn’t matter. Haha
I will say the Vulcan has a more comfortable seating position and seat (as long as you got the extended reach seat).
Oh and I haven’t had half of the issues she mentioned. No clunkiness and no issues with the foot guard thing. The other stuff is just a byproduct of the DCT that takes getting used to.
Once used to it, it lets you enjoy the ride without worrying about rev matching and getting a tired left hand in traffic.
@@Grandmasterjord yea I am very tempted to test ride the rebel. I think if I have a vulcan 650 and rebel then I am set for life on bikes. However I do miss the v twin harley exhaust sound so maybe I need 3 bikes lmao. The rebel is hard to find in my area and dealers rarely allow test rides. Wish they had a test riding event for the public.
Read my comment above. When you get this bike you will love it.
I can agree Honda shouldn't try so hard to save you a bit of fuel when you're in sport mode. It's fine in usual mode, but in sport it should let the engine rotate : )