The freakleak revealed that they are actually aware of critical reception and are taking a lot of extra care with gen 10. Granted I think its more Nintendo putting pressure on them than the people in charge of the franchise actually caring about quality (the leak also revealed that Nintendo asked GF to delay Z-A, among many other interesting things), but with any luck we will get an answer to this question soon enough.
There is more than one way to care about quality They care about the lore and the world building and the soundtrack and the story etc that’s the kind of quality that matters most None of that technical graphics nonsense matters because that’s not the point
@@madnessarcade7447 It doesn't matter _that much_ but it has to work well at least. Crashing, lag spikes, or even full on perpetual lag... Those are unacceptable when the game looks the way it does
@@madnessarcade7447 I agree for the most part, but there is a point where the technical side is holding back the rest of the game and Scarlet/Violet are undeniably beyond that point (not even mentioning how variable framerates can make people feel sick). And for the record I still like SV, but man it could've been so much better.
We shouldn’t forget Nintendo are the ones chiefly in charge of the franchise due to majority ownership. If anything the delay to ZA shows nintendo was listening and let GameFreak have more time too.
8:36 Slight correction, LA is a mainline or "core series" game, as noted by the official Japanese Pokémon website. It definitely bucks the trend from the others and the point you're making was still valid, I just wanted to point that out because it is a common misconception that imo is somewhat harmful (great video btw) Repost because YT eats my comments
Agreed, I hadn't even considered that OR that a large swath of buyers are parents buying Pokemon games as birthday / christmas presents. When people usually used that argument that Pokemon could be made on short schedule because their audience is kids I didn't get it- wouldn't kids care about quality too? But Pokemon needing to squeeze out games in order to feed into kids fandoms before they get "too old" and want to jump on CoD or Fortnite instead was something I hadn't considered- the demographic is always changing and aging, so they are on a constant squeeze AND parents who don't follow the online discussions won't care that much about Pokemon to judge it on their own, they'll just buy the latest as a gift. Very much reasons outside my habits as a frequent gamer, but very important stuff to include in your perspective if you're discussing franchises with large "average person" appeal.
I think this is a great topic to examine. It has been very disappointing to see the Pokémon community reward TPC’s poor release with strong sales. Hard to examine historical what ifs, my hope is some how the next release doesn’t perform so poorly, but if I were them I’d feel license to continue putting in too short development timelines, as they aren’t too short to continue selling well.
It’s not even a community. Pokémon has something very few franchisss have, normie appeal. Literally it’s the people outside of the terminally online who talk about games and discuss these issues. You have the parents that have a little Timmy and they think “Hey Pokemon is a good game to give to the children” and do just that. With no real self awareness of the quality of the game.
@@jacobfoxfires9647 Pokemon is only a game, but it's also multimedia brand, cards game, cartoons, etc. Their ecosystem is really strong, and Nintendo start to do this with their franchise (at least with Mario).
Because they aren’t poor The lore is amazing The characters are amazing The world building is amazing The music is amazing Those are the things they care more about
On the pokedex: having the pokemon playable in game does not necessitate they be catchable. The regional pokedex can stay at 400 with dlc pokedex at 250. The issue was that Gamefreak allegedly needed time to remake old assets 5 years ago. but by now they should have had enough time to make these reusable assets for the majority of the existing 1025 pokemon
Not to defend Gamefreak, but they still need to update a bunch of stuff each generation even if the base models are the same (also they need to load the data for all the Pokemon which could worsen performance). It could VERY easily be averted by not having ridiculously short dev times, but this is still a bit of an oversimplification.
keep in mind Scarlet Violet already has around 750 (75%) of the total pokemon's data. And theyve achieved this only a few years after "starting from scratch". Unless there is some supercycle that again necessitates remaking all assets from scratch we should be at a point where all pokemon are "ready to go", so to speak.
But do you really need all 1000 Pokémon in one game though. Sounds like teedeous task to collect 1k+ Pokémon In single game just to get pokedex complete
@@BhargavN10 but like i just said, this was never about the regional dex. pokemon can be playable without being in the regional dex as they were for the first 7 gens. Also you dont have to catch anything. but thats kind of the main point of the game.
Weren't there some rumours a while back that some mistake had been made as they had attempted to remake all the Pokemon for Sword and Shield, but some mistake caused a lot of data to be corrupted in the process making it impossible to recreate all of it in time for release? Was it ever confirmed in any of these leaks that was true, or was it all just rumour-mongering?
I am in fact more worried that some of the positive stpes forward that Scarlet/Violet took will get overshadowed by the backlash of the game's performance and bugs. The fact that the DLC areas seem to have level scaling for example gives me hope that they're also listening to this sort of feedback and taking notes, but who knows?
I doubt it. The game sold *very* well, and I think everyone who liked the game were talking about very different things from the ones who were disappointed. Scarlet and Violet were the best Pokémon games released a year or two too early; I think Game Freak understand that.
The switch is the perfect storm of a one again populair console with a large casual audience that buys a lot of games. So the Pokemon games are perfect for attracting that audience (that doesn't care that much about technical performance and doesn't hear that much of the gaming news)
Also Legends Arceus probably got delayed, but the marketing machine of the rest of Pokémon doesn't allow delays of new generations of games. So that's the reason for the short timespan between
@@GeHeum The leak didn't have anything about Arceus getting delayed, though it did reveal that BDSP was conceptualized at the last minute for fear of backlash to a lack of a gen 4 remake (which is ironic in retrospect), so thats probably why. gen 10 might've actually been delayed though (Z-A was slated for 2024, and gen 10 is slated for 2026, leaving a massive gap)
Yeah that's the big issue is how Pokemon attracts the uber normies. And that carried the switch era games. It does however bring in an interesting thought. What could they have gotten if the quality control was more in check and the games didn't run like ass? Could they have gotten closer to the RGB releases back when it first launched? And I think they realize that now.
Performance aside, SV are the most complete titles and best experience in the series hands down. i am highly critical of gamefreak and Ive played all games. i am not surprised these continue to sell well and shatter records.
theres 3 categories the latest entry will aways have the edge in: Quality of Life, connectivity, and sheer content. Old games rule in the nostalgia dept, but you have to admit the sheer amount of content is impressive. B2W2 had 300 catchable pokemon and 650 playable ones. SV has 650 catchable mons and several dozens more playable, on top of a myriad of plotlines and objectives essentially triple that of the standard gym challenge.
Yeah, I have the same opinion. The game is clearly unfinished and if you poke around you can see a lot of areas that never got cleaned up, the performance sucks and the game had crashing(!!) issues. If you can look past all that though, the actual game underneath is really solid and especially in the DLC shows that it's not a matter of competence holding Gamefreak back - they clearly have the skill and means to make something great - but the timescales and demands of being the arbiter of the biggest franchise on the planet really do take their toll.
This! Scarlet and Violet were undeniably held back by the dev time but even despite that, they manage to come out as my favourite games in the series. The story, ease of gameplay (when it’s unhampered by performance issues) and streamlining of core mechanics such as IV training they really just feel the best to play. The only games I’ve completed the pokedex in multiple times over!
It was the first pokemon game in a long while to make me feel something, that’s for sure. Would it have a national dex and less glitches, I might even call it my favorite pokemon game of all times. But alas, Emerald and White will have to remain on top I guess for the 10th or so year (2011 was 10 years ago, right?), with Violet « just » being third place.
Great video. Yeah you hit the nail on the head. Despite the flaws of the recent entries, the sales show no *need* for them to improve their quality, and longer dev cycles would probably decrease revenue, despite leading to better products. As a major Pokémon fan ScVi were the first games I didn't buy because the issues with SwSh and BDSP (both of which I feel are bad) knocked the series from it's absolute throne in my heart, and now it has to sell itself to me like most ofter games. I feel there are some other avenues the series could take in order to improve, and the Legends games are my current hope, but otherwise I'm not having much faith in the core series currently. Repost cuz YT eats my comments
@@davidtitanium22 I do think SV does have good points, the character writing being one of them (it’s absolutely stellar). And I do think they’re not bad games (ok ish imo) and a lot better than SwSh and BDSP. However as I said I think they’re only ok overall and that’s no longer enough for me to purchase Pokémon.
Pokémon Red/Green/Blue sold 31.4M, but Yellow sold another 14.6M, for a grand total of 46M. I consider Yellow to be pretty much the same game as Red/Green/Blue. So even if Scarlet and Violet so more than vanilla Red and Green in Japan, it did not sell more if you count Yellow.
Regardless of the complaints that reviewers and TH-camrs drone on about about bugs, the bugs barely ever affected my game and I feel were greatly overstated by critics. The fact is Pokemon S&V is such a fun game; great game play; Great story, great characters, great battling system, new top raids every few weeks, loads to do. Add in the DLCs keep the game alive and give more lore and the Epilogue was a lovely ending that ties the main game and DLC characters nicely together and rounds off the themes of the game nicely, that gives some nice closure. It's far from perfect, but it's a ton of fun. IMO the best Pokemon game so far.
@@nintendoforecast i agree with the guy honestly its an amazing game the only thing holding it back is performance. the bugs mostly are not a huge deal tho bad. the graphics dont need to be great but certainly i wish they were better. but there are genuinely things that look good such as character models and especially Pokemon models i feel those look quite nice. but yeah if you cna handle the preform its good
Honestly, the graphics don't bother me in general. My issue with Sword and Shield was less that the graphics looked bad than that it looked dreary and uninspiring. I never felt that with Gen 8 trailers.
@@nintendoforecast SV is definitely a lot more vibrant, while I don’t want to sell you on it it definitely has it’s charms and I do think you might enjoy it. However imo Legends Arceus is a far better game, and if you haven’t played some older entries like Gen 5, 7, Platinum, HGSS, and RSE I would recommend those far more than SV. Considering you like the spin-offs I would recommend Mystery Dungeon DX over it as well, the mystery dungeon spin-offs are great.
A lot of the most visible bugs that became memetic online were localized entirely to how busted co-op mode could get with mangling things. If you didn't play co-op, you wouldn't run into most of the ones people liked to poke fun at, but with the internet being the internet, this wasn't really ever mentioned.
I think Legends: Z-A taking six or more months than usual to release is a good sign that this isn’t going to continue. Also, Scarlet and Violet were the exception in terms of just how unfinished they were; they were clearly crunching to a strict deadline and assumed earlier in development that they would make 11/22 even in spite of COVID (baffling). They’ve actually been remarkably consistent on releasing finished games on a regular schedule before 2022, where they first dabbled in a large open world and thought they could continue doing things the same way lol. Also, the next gen is looking like a late 2026 game both because of Z-A’s later 2025 release and the leak that the former is a Switch 2 game.
I tend to hold more a pessimistic/hesitant view on SV, but I'll try to keep it toned down! I think that the main thing that ruined my experience of SV was probably the game crashing on me 2 separate times (and I had the autosave off so I lost progress). The other thing that bothered me was that once I finished the main game, completed the pokedex, there really wasn't anything else for me to do aside from the 7-star tera-raid battles (which are hard if you go in without a strategy, lol). And I'm not much of a shiny hunter, either... and comp battling is fun, but you have to go online for that. I think depending on your interpretation, the game is received with more of a mixed reception. I will say though, I did really enjoy SV's story. The characters were really good, too (at least for a pokemon game)! I just wish there was more to do offline once you complete all the main story stuff. Oh, and I guess I should acknowledge that the idea of "lacking in postgame content" is also just more of an issue with modern pokemon games, not just SV. I personally also wouldn't include DLC with postgame, but that's just what I think and you're welcome to have your own opinion!
6:30 what everyone seems to forget is that pokemon is multimedia so it has a symbiotic relationship with itself because of its other pillars like tcg and anime etc Those are things Mario and Zelda don’t have which everyone continues to neglect Pokemon is in its own lane and shouldn’t be compared to other Nintendo franchises It’s one of a kind and handles itself in a different way
@@madnessarcade7447 wth? we are talking solely abput the games, so yes, they should obviously be compared. Y'all really have the lowest standards ever, seems like you'll consume fast food and then defend it as if it was a full, hearty nutritious meal
Breath of the Wild was the first Zelda game that made me a genuine Zelda fan. I had played many other Zelda games before, but Breath of the Wild (Zelda's first open world game) blew me away and really made me interested in the series and genuinely looking forward to whatever they might release next. Pokemon is now having an inverse effect on me; I have been a life long fan but Scarlet and Violet (Pokemon's first open world games) have actually made me quite scrupulous toward the series' quality and have made me seriously consider whether the series as a whole is worth my time and money anymore.
From my perspective it's well deserved, after playing them myself I very much feel like the problems people were talking about were greatly and I mean greatly over exaggerated. So no I'm not worried about what they do next but thats just my opinion
The anime is one major problem with the idea of 6 year generations (Which can be solved with the adding a new team approach suggested, since there would still be a new gen every 3 years). They basically have to double the length of every series to fill the gap. The merch and TCG also somewhat rely on new pokemon but I feel the mid gen games like Legends can solve that issue.
Perhaps Pokemon manages to get similar sales numbers with each entry because of the multiplayer and social component. As Splatoon 2 and 3 also sold quite similarly. it gives pressure for all existing fans to keep up and for new fans to join a fresh online community,
one thing i think is important for sales is the anime. much like how youtube is core to the sales of games like Minecraft and roblox, the anime is an important marketing tool. the new anime is much better and fun imo, but it hasn't reached the same level of hype and popularity, which is a big loss on pokemons part.
I think there are definitely a number of reasons behind Legends Arceus selling less than every other mainline Pokemon game on Switch. It didn't release in the coveted holiday slot, it was sandwiched between two other Pokemon games, and it didn't have a second version to bolster its sales due to people doubledipping. I think Z-A has the potential to do better than Arceus if it's cross-generation, though it sounds like it might only be intended for Switch based on the Teraleak. Also, I would definitely recommend you rectify skipping over New Pokemon Snap if it even vaguely interests you. There's nothing else quite like it (except for the first game), and it really hooked me in when I played through it. I would love to see a sequel.
I bought Violet, ignored the rumours of performance issues and it's just unplayable for me. Perhaps I should have tried to get a refund but what's done is done. Struggled through the tutorial section and have no desire to play it because of the performance issues. I had hoped that they would improve it eventually but that didn't come to pass,at least not enough for me. My only hope for it now is maybe it gets some sort of general boost from being playable on Switch 2. I'd love to play it and maybe buy the DLC when I'm finished with the main game, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up as regards a performance upgrade from Switch 2. All this is to explain my point of why I'm not going to go head first into the next one if I hear that there are performance issues. Perhaps others will adopt the same line of thinking, although whether or not it would be enough to put a real dent in sales, I'm not sure. Once bitten, twice shy. I'd love for Pokemon to be great and think the series has awesome potential, but it needs adequate time and resources for that to happen.
It's simple - it's too fun to sleep on. I can't deny an awful FPS with terrible environment, in fact, I agree that it's unacceptable for an exclusive console game. That Nintendo's "Seal of Quality" must NOT be on the game's case. However, it's hard to ignore or boycott it, especially when the open world is interesting, the story is really good for the series and that game in particular has probably some of the best characters in the series as well. And I guess many fans feel the same way. Yeah, I guess we're the part of the problem.
Not gonna happen, they will continue to if for no other reason than competetive battling balancing. New mechanic would break a old pokemon? Not in this dex = solved
I’d say Legends Arceus is the one you’re missing out on big time. Especially as someone who usually mentions how much they like open-air, sprawling games with involved and active gameplay. You won’t really get that from Scarlet/Violet
Oh, I was day 1 on Arceus. It's not my favourite game ever or anything but I enjoyed it a lot. It was Sword/Shield and Sc/Vi that I ducked although I am considering Sc/Vi.
I think Go was an overall negative for Pokemon as a franchise due to it effectively killing off most of the spinoffs and it making TPC not care as much about game quality when they have Go as such a massive cashcow. I was hoping that the success of palworld would make TPC start to care again and take notes,but sadly they decided to shoot themselves in the foot by suing them.
@nintendoforecast ahhh maybe I got confused. only watched through once. I came away thinking you didn't play it due to negative criticism. I'm glad you did get to play it though.^^
Every time we buy one of these games, we keep thinking "This is the one where they turn things around!", and then it doesn't. Eventually though, we'll all give up, the bubble will burst, and the sales of these games will probably drop quite a bit (though it will still probably sell really well even then).
Speak for yourself. Ive never had that thought and Ive never been disappointed in my purchase. I will admit that after sword and sheild I told myself that the only new pokemon game I will buy again are the gen 4 remakes, because I didn’t expect change and I wanted one more trip through sinnoh. But then they did change and I loved it. Never did buy those g4 remakes tho.
12:15 - If this is the case, then Nintendo, Game Freak & The Pokémon Company need to invest in MORE DEVELOPMENT TEAMS! Call of Duty is a signficantly better looking, technically superior, and more ambitious undertaking, yet they figured out how to release a game YEARLY, and support it with additional content. You know why? Because they scaled up staffing, resources & budgets for their development teams each generation to match demands. Then they hired more teams to work on new CoD games simultaneously, so they could have proper time to develop each entry while staggering releases. Meanwhile, Game Freak has barely increased in size & still treats Pokemon like it's a tiny, AA indie franchise... The options aren't only A) rush out low quality, unfinished products so babies & small children get their yearly Pokemon fix or B) take longer, risk lower gross sales but release higher quality games. They can do both if they cared enough.
As much I'm on the team of a "pokemon BOTW", I think the most profitable next step for Pokemon would be a GAAS. Pokemon is the best IP for this, making it an MMO, add seasons, microtransactions. Instead of "Pokemon BOTW", It would be "Pokemon Geshin Impact".
I wonder what happened to that boycott for sword and shield went in 2019 that was supposed to happen? The Pokemon franchise earn 10.8 billion dollars last year in 2023. I think they also earn 11.8 billion I think in 2021 as well. I recently went to Japan with of my mom because of my mom’s job since she works for the government for cybersecurity in September this month. And i went to four Pokemon centers in Japan just collecting merchandise, tcg, and other things. I was having a good time just going to Pokemon centers in Japan. I was collecting merchandise with the Pokemon music in the background, well the current Pokemon generation music anyway. It’s all going up and popular than it was before. The money and the popularity of the Pokemon franchise. During Nintendo investors meeting, they reported that Pokemon earned 100 or 99 million dollars on switch alone. We also have to remember every connected to the games that’s not just the mainline games. For a 6 or 7 years generation cycle, that’s all mainline games, spinoff games, anime, vgc tournaments, manga, merchandise, tcg, and everything else in that 7 or 6 years span of time. Im not sure I want to watch Pokemon journeys for 6 or 7 years which was the mainline gen 8 anime for sword and shield. As for me, I have continued to play the Pokemon games multiple times over. As i have three copies each of sun, moon, Omega ruby, alpha sapphire, x and y, and ultra sun and moon for the 2ds xl and 3ds xl. I have played an unhealthy amount of pokemon at least for the mainline games over the past 6 to 7 years. I had problems with sword and shield and scarlet and violet but I enjoyed nonetheless. I didn’t encounter most of the problems that majority of online did but I did have fps issues and other small things here and there but nothing major really.
I don't think they are unaware. But people are giving them mixed signals with the two games on the switch being the 2nd and 3rd best selling games on the Switch AT FULL PRICE AS WELL. Like this is the first time these games are $60. Which to me, are not worth 60 bucks. I think with Nintendo apologizing upon GFs behalf was a wake up call. Cause after that, TPC suddenly cared about the quality and had delayed not only ZA, but also Gen 10 by a year. As TPC are the ones setting the schedule and all of that is determined by the games coming out on time. This isn't entirely blameless on GF either. As they have probably the worst leadership and is overconfident in his team DESPITE it only being 160 members. Which all have to work on Gen 10, Gen 11, and Gen 12 all at the same time. Along with any other games in between. Overworked as hell and GF seems to get it because they are also opening up for more people to join. So with more time and hopefully more manpower to help in this process, the pokemon games will have some better quality control.
I've actually been playing Pokemon since I was a kid even though I'm in my twenties I still kind of like Pokemon but I have someone falling off after the anime I still try to play the game but it does feel weird especially with Ash Ketchum gone but if they can fix Scarlett and violet or make a better game like Legend z a I'll probably buy the game if it doesn't have any bugs
I personally have a bone to pick with most of the online discourse on Scarlet and Violet. Now I'm personally not someone who's affected by visuals much. Gameplay and story are what's important to me, so I never even noticed until I watched some people play it on youtube and complain. For me, the game was the most innovative, best Pokémon game ever made, and I think the sales numbers reflect that. Yet when I see people talk about the series online, even huge fans of it, they all talk about how they feel the series is going downhill and they don't have any enthusiasm for the next upcoming games. It just feels like it's popular to hate on the game while ignoring the factors that caused the problems that can be easily fixed for the next generation. The big problem everyone loves to harp on is the 3 year schedule and there not being enough time to do the game justice, and that's already been fixed as the game has been delayed to give it the extra problem, but there's another thing I see people ignore. The biggest thing no one ever talks about, and that drives me up the wall, is Covid. Pokémon is a huge, complex coordination between games, cards, and tv shows that cannot be altered on a dime, and Covid dropped right in the middle of Scarlet and Violet's production. Of course there were serious, visible problems, unlike other games the couldn't just delay the game half a year when the Tv show and card game had to have it come out. I personally recommend Scarlet and Violet to anyone and everyone who enjoys Pokémon. It's just the best game in the series easily. I'm also super hyped for the future of Pokémon. Without a global pandemic happening and with additional time for polish I think the next game will blow everyone's mind.
If enough people just want the product out of pure, let’s say, “fandom” (or just unawareness) then it doesn’t really matter how trash the game is a profit will be made.
To play a bit of devil's advocate, pretty much every single Pokemon game released have never been as technically marred as SV was. Even red and blue, as glitchy as it can be, don't just crash on you or give you missingno out of nowhere. You have to look for them to trigger them. So, I think that SV was initially meant for a way more powerful hardware than the Switch. keep in mind, we have had just insane amount of rumors floating about for the Switch Pro and the OLED version could have been that. So, Gamefreak could have been making the game for the Pro and had to quickly shift to a much less capable Og Switch which is what resulted in a technical mess of a game. Although, I don't understand why they decided to put water under the entire region. Regardless, neither SWSH, LGPE, or PLA were anywhere close to the technical jank SV had. I mean, just the fully unlocked tegra chip gives you a near locked 30 fps on SV. I imagine a more powerful system could have given us that and the different lighting we saw for the game in the teraleaks.
Breath of the wild and tears used the same technique with their water..wasnt an issue there. You can also glitch through the world there but apparently only an issue if pokemon does it...
The Sims is still huge, but the main audience is overwhelmingly women (that is why you don't hear about it on gamer circles, which are male dominated). The Sims 4 turned 10 years old this year and is still getting 40 USD DLCs every year. They even made the base game free and canceled the sequel to focus entirely on The Sims 4.
6:03 Pokémon has always been innovating and changing things up so I wouldn’t say predictable Predictability isn’t the samething as tradition They have always experimented with new concepts and mechanics Like breeding,natures,abilities, following pokemon, overworld encounters, physical special split, mega evolution,Zmoves, gigantamax/dynamax amie/refresh/camping, even motion controls from let’s go do these features not count as evolving/progressing are these things not ambitious? The restructuring of the traditional Pokémon format by having the third legendary as the main focus not to mention being the first Pokémon games ever to do DLC and the regional evolutions Also the various QoL stuff even having dynamax and gigantamax and you would not have SV without the wild area all of these new ideas and things for the franchise Are these not ambitious I mean all these things have changed the franchise in substantial ways Every generation offers something ambitious is replacing gyms with trials not ambitious? Or making the galar league a tournament like the anime instead of a traditional elite four is that not ambitious Sure none of them have ever been this super drastic But to say it’s “not innovating” is a bit disingenuous Has the steps in previous games been a bit smaller I mean sure But baby steps and even medium steps is still progression Why do we count this and not those Shouldn’t it all count? Some of these things maybe temporary but they are still creative and ambitious and drastically change the course of the franchise so they count
@@madnessarcade7447 "baby steps are progression" pokemon is literally like the number 1 media franchise in the world they have unlimited money to do a lot more than baby steps. Y'all need to raise ypurs standards regarding the billion dollar company
Honestly, this is one of those situations where "Community > Industry". If anyone is a casual observer, or even if they're an expert observer, but never participated in the Pokemon Community itself, they'd be dumbfounded as to why Pokemon continues to thrive, when all other game series who've been guilty of far less have failed and were expectedly abandoned. Scarlet & Violet is a mess in more ways than one. It's buggy (not as consistently buggy as the memes would have people believe, but you can't go through the whole game and never run into it), lacks polish, is blatantly missing a lot of features (every Pokemon game is guilty of this, but this one was the most obvious), is inconsistent in its writing (characters act entirely different between main storyline and Area Zero) , and just feels like a game full of failed promises. Sword & Shield took three steps forward, but didn't check to see if there was a pitfall in front of them, and subsequently fell through. It promised much, but delivered far less. The world was smaller than it made itself out to be (feeling cramped and uninspired after seeing everything there was to see). It had horrible balancing that made the game unintentionally too easy (blame it on Raids). And overall, it felt like a step back from the handheld games due to all those things lining up perfectly wrong. Legend Arceus is an excellent game... If it had released during the GameCube years. While there was technically nothing too wrong with it, there were many portions that felt incomplete and lacking in features that align with (good) modern game designs. Looking at it from a distance, it has the design and appeal of a PS2 game. Which is a GREAT thing, BUT... We're talking about the Pokemon Company, who surely has enough money and resources to produce a game more fitting for the console generation. Let's Go Pikachu & Eevee felt like several steps back for the Pokemon series, but this was intentional, as it was made to market to the Pokemon Go and Gen 1 players. If it had released during the peak of Pokemon Go on the Wii U (I'm convinced it was planned to release on the Wii U, but when The Pokemon Company saw how poorly the console was doing in sales, they backed out, hid the game away, released Sun&Moon on the 3DS, then brought it out of its case when the Switch rolled in and showed financial success), then the appeal of it would've been better understood. But as it released on the Switch, long after the Go hype has died, and long past the "Gen 1 is best" fad, it failed to pleased any audience with its archaic and questionable design. But... This is just looking at the games from an outsider's perspective. If you participated in the Community consistently - whether you joined multiple offline Tournaments, played the TCG at your local comic book shops, lined up at the Pop Up shops to buy limited time merchandise, or even just posted and shared fanart online - you'd quickly realize that Pokemon runs on a COMPLETELY different track than the rest of the gaming industry, even by Nintendo standards. It's never about "will this game be better than the last", or "does this game look/run well", or even "are they listening to the community"... It's simply about: "What are the new Pokemon?" "What's the new region?" "Who are the new Gym Leaders?" "Who are the villains this time?" "What's the new gimmick?" "How's the music?" "How's the multiplayer?" Notice how only the very last two have a win/fail condition. The Pokemon Community doesn't check to see if people/reviews like the newest mainline, or even if the newest mainline is playable, or if the game's better than the last: They just check to see if they can be absorbed into the world and play with friends. If the latter sucks, it takes away a good chunk of the sales (which makes one wonder how much better Arceus would've sold). But if the former sucks: That's how a mainline Pokemon game stops selling. That's the only condition they care about in the Community. And since that bar is fairly low: Pokemon doesn't have a chance at losing anymore. They did lose with the older generation (as many quit before touching Gen 2, even more before touching Gen 3, and more before touching Gen 5)... But the kids raised on this? This is a culture for them now, not a product.
Hey all you people shitting on Scarlet and Violet.. The games function fine, framerate is a bit naff but beyond that its bug free since patching. In terms of gameplay, story, characters and worldbuilding this was the best pokemon by far. How many of you are just bandwagoning with no actual experience of the game? And how many that do played after the patches were implemented? Nobody needs your unqualified speculation..
I'm going to tell you something you're not going to wanna hear. Boycotts can actually increase the value of a company. As they are can often act as free advertising and very good advertising at that. There's a reason the expression "there's no such thing as bad advertising" exists.
I think it's probably best if gamefreak let's a new and inspired director handle the mainline series (at least for gen10) the series has gotten stail and has lost all semblance of quality with the switch era. Also more development time of course.
i dont think that at all. the only problem is dev time. i think the devs are great. most things besides performance and graphics in scarlet and violet are geuninly innovate and have changes to how the games work. the story well told with interesting charterers and the music and battles fresh as ever
It's 100% a dev time issue. It has nothing to do with competence or passion. Sure a more competent dev team would've made a less buggy SV, BUT they'd still have the terrible crunch issue. GameFreak if anything has TOO MUCH passion for the franchise, they regularly try to do too much and have to heavily cut back to meet these deadlines.
I'm kinda worried gamefreak sees this as a justification to not bother making functional games anymore seeing how this is (somehow?!) the best selling pokemon game yet. Hope I'm wrong and we can go back to pre switch era of quality at least🤞
12;07 Pokémon games do take around 6 yrs it’s just not something we feel because multiple games are in development at the same time and they share resources with each other i believe
Respectfully! Saying Smash Bros includes every fighter from the franchise across the vast it has so Pokémon should be able to include over 1,000 Pokémon for every game is an incredibly unfair metric Smash gets one game per console and they’re always years apart. Pokémon is almost yearly and the Pokédex is normally expected to grow by close to 100 with each generation (lesser now of course). There are ppl that are also (for some reason) expecting them to all have new models and animations every single time or they get called “lazy”. Game Freak is getting crunched and pressured beyond belief to keep up with how much they’re being asked of. Both franchises put in the most and have loads to tend to, but I feel Pokemon is declining in quality becsuse there’s literally no time for them to actually make a game that exceeds the odds in performance in ways we’ve seen the other franchises do It’s unfortunate really. All just my opinion!
Smash is a fighting game Pokemon is a jrpg they aren’t going to have the same development philosophies Pokemon likes to bubble/stay in its own lane and do its own thing
Critical reception doesnt mean anything, especially after the successive western Triple A$$ woke flops this year. Game devs can just pay for a good rating. Case in point: Drag Queen The Fail Guard has an obvious cover up of its actual quality. But the problem is it stinks.
Critical reception doesn't mean squat when 98% of the people who buy the game either are long terms fans whose love for the series have not been diminished by the downgrade in quality/content over the years or very casual fanbase who just buy the game and enjoy it.
I bought Violet used on eBay, but even as a long-time fan unfortunately I just couldn't get into it after the first few gyms. This isn't even because of "bugs", but because 1) the frame rate was absolutely garbage althroughout, and 2) I've lost all respect for Nintendo after they made online multiplayer paid, limited Pokemon transfers to that online service, limited Pokemon to paid DLC in an 80$ game, and the recent Palworld and Emulator cases. Do youself a favour and just play romhacks of the old Pokemon games instead, at least they add features and not take them away. Nintendo went from a company that produced childhood memories onto game cartridges, to the same money-grubbing soulless hacks that we used laugh and point at Sony and Microsoft for, but now lump them in with.
Alot of the purchases are due to them blindly buying cause brand reputation from paste 2 decade rather than doing thier research on said company. Advise would be before buying a product do your research.
The graphics for detective pikachu aren’t bad it’s have always looked like that it’s an intentional artistic choice it’s part of the charm the previous game looked like that too It’s part of the charm to make the characters more expressive You are too focused on the superficiality of the graphics to appreciate the personality of the game itself
Wait a sec, you said you didn't know THE SIMS was a thing? You mean, one of the top 10 most played franchises? bro come on this is a comedic joke rn????
How are you so out of touch that you didn't know The Sims was still a thing?????? There are hundreds of channels that are dedicated they're talking about it.
14:11 I’ve seen a lot of players say they’re getting tired of the longer dev times so getting upset at something being more consistent is a bit hypocritical
Those opinions are vocal minority Most people the true fans the general audience don’t care for the technical stuff they like the world and the lore and creatures People forgot what made Pokemon special to begin with they see Pokémon as a game or any other series that’s either good or bad but it’s not that it’s more than that Pokemon isn’t only games as a brand so stop treating it as if it’s just games when u say it’s dying cuz it’s not it’s more alive than ever It’s a culture and a lifestyle a living breathing world with a story and lore and characters We form parasocial relationships with these fictional animals because we love them so much and they have so much personality and backstory and it is a very customizable series it’s a perfect creative outlet 10:22 Pokémon team wasn’t experienced enough with switch hardware when they first started development for the game and they are a smaller team then most also the game was made during Covid so it had a decent amount of obstacles and it couldn’t be delayed because they have to abide by the merch and the anime and the tcg They have to be symbiotic with themselves When people criticize them these are things no one considers They have since likely gotten better they always learn as they go Also their budgets are always small 10:22 Pokémon team wasn’t experienced enough with switch hardware when they first started development for the game and they are a smaller team then most also the game was made during Covid so it had a decent amount of obstacles and it couldn’t be delayed because they have to abide by the merch and the anime and the tcg They have to be symbiotic with themselves When people criticize them these are things no one considers their dev time is 3-6 actually u just don’t feel it cuz they work on multiple projects simultaneously with the budget of a Disney channel movie around 15-20mil and they have to balance game release with the anime and the cards Everyone can say pokemon should be like Zelda or xenoblade but those games don’t have an anime and a tcg they have to abide by it’s like jenga Also they do make decisions dictated by the competitive scene And they may or may not share resources that part I’m unsure of Hot take: the point of Pokémon is to appeal to the widest audience possible and that there’s something for everyone from mainline to the anime to the spin offs Well maybe if people got into the other avenues of the franchise rather than solely the games u wouldn’t be disappointed Since the series was designed to be symbiotic with itself and to experience every avenue together for a complete experience U guys need to reevaluate ur priorities Visuals,frame rate,art style are irrelevant People are too focused on superficial nonsense let’s be real u didn’t get into the original games for the graphics And If u didn’t play games for the graphics as a kid then why would u play them for the graphics now Sorry u forgot what the point of Pokémon was to begin with Pokémon SV isn’t an unfinished game they just pull all the effort into the shit that ACTUALLY matters Pokémon is always meant to be an entry level jrpg maybe the people trying to hate on pokemon maybe they just aren’t into jrpgs If The lore was good The writing was good The music was good The vibes were good The messages were good The character designs were good That’s all you really need The series knows what it is and its niche(by niche I mean space) and what it wants to be and there’s nothing wrong with that and it doesn’t have to be anything else The mainstream audience doesn’t care about graphics or bugs or anything they just like to vibe People are just trying to make it something that is isn’t And something that doesn’t fit its style Maybe u don’t like Pokemon just aren’t into RPGs and that’s fine dont have to use that as an excuse to be toxic If its not ur thing just move on imo They’re gonna do their own thing and be their own thing in their own way Pokémon is always meant to be an entry level jrpg maybe the people trying to hate on pokemon maybe they just aren’t into jrpgs If The lore was good The writing was good The music was good The vibes were good The messages were good The character designs were good That’s all you really need The series knows what it is and its niche(by niche I mean space) and what it wants to be and there’s nothing wrong with that and it doesn’t have to be anything else The mainstream audience doesn’t care about graphics or bugs or anything they just like to vibe People are just trying to make it something that is isn’t And something that doesn’t fit its style Maybe u don’t like Pokemon just aren’t into RPGs and that’s fine dont have to use that as an excuse to be toxic If its not ur thing just move on imo They’re gonna do their own thing and be their own thing in their own way Calling pokemon “lazy” is lazy they got more to do than most devs they make two games and have to be symbiotic with the rest of the series and all this other stuff They can’t delay the game they have a symbiotic release system The games are leashed to the anime,tcg,etc and the anime,tcg etc is leashed to the games Tpc is constantly playing a game of jenga trying to balance each of its branches The games are in development for 3-6 years we just don’t feel it because a lot of times they work on multiple generations at the same time they have two teams the games have a 15-20 million dollar budget They probably share resources Maybe about the sharing idk They have been working on Gen 10 for a few years now Visuals,frame rate,art style are irrelevant People are too focused on superficial nonsense If The lore was good The writing was good The music was good The vibes were good The messages were good The character designs were good That’s all you really need A believe people still care about that frame stuff
I’m sorry people got so lost and brainwashed by the superficialities of the industry you forgot what Pokémon was originally about And I know that the game isn’t perfect and that there’s issues Pokémon is a franchise where the theme is friendship is magic and meeting cute and cool unique monsters What the hell does graphics and performance have to do with those things? Nothing if you wanna criticize a franchise criticize it on whether or not it delivered on the messages and themes it promised Was friendship magic? Did you meet cute and cool unique creatures? Ok then it’s a good game Those are what’s important to Pokémon As the og theme said Pokémon is about Oh your my best friend in a world we must defend I will travel across the land searching far and wide each pokemon to understand the power that’s inside Our hearts so true our courage will pull us through you teach me and I teach you” That’s what it is about and that’s what it will always be about and if that’s what it continues to be about until the end Then that’s a strong enough ending for me Not sure what graphics and animation and performance has to do with that Performance graphics those things never Mattered You have to remember pokemon games have only been 3D since 2013 that’s pretty recent compared to other games like Zelda that have been 3D since the 90s and early 2000s so obviously they’re gonna be behind Mixed with the fact that They can’t delay the game because main console for only 5 years compared to Zelda since n64 The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games And it’s about time you all understand that by now They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga If you move one thing it all falls apart They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games they are still learning as they go so y’all gotta be patient and give them time to catch up Their partnership with take two they’ll apply what they learn back into Pokémon so that’s good You have to remember gamefreak are inexperienced with developing open world games so of course there will be some trial and error the more they work on and improve the game and do future games the better at it they’ll get Rome wasn’t built in a day we need to be patient Assuming we get more open world games NOT TO MENTION ScarVi’s development was probably screwed up by the pandemic Probably turned it upside down And before u say just delay the game They can’t delay the game The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games And it’s about time you all understand that by now They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga If you move one thing it all falls apart They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games it’s not outdated it’s rebellious and nonconformist The games aren’t rushed there is a schedule they abide by for symbiosis The games and the anime and tcg are all beholden to each other You can’t move one without ruining the groove Unless you one gen 10 game to come out years after the gen 10 anime and have it spoiled There is a symbiosis there When you watch the anime it makes u wanna play the game and vice versa so they are companion pieces designed to be experienced together for a complete experience They choose to live in their own bubble and be one of a kind and not imitate what everyone else does and they have my respect for that the og games bugs are looked back on as charming Give SV 20 years it’ll be the same Running shmunning whatever issue you have with the games that doesn’t mean anything for the entire franchise idk why you guys like to act like the games is the only part that exists If u look at how well the show is doing and same with the spin offs and the tcg and the merch No Pokémon is not “doing bad” lmao yall are so narrow minded it’s funny I thought we all agreed that Nintendo’s strength is when they focus more on fun not graphics they aren’t Microsoft and Sony Idk why this mentality changes when it comes to Pokemon Sounds like hypocrisy to me
@@MrHomelessHobos This sounds like a typical 'did not read' reaction, yet you still feel compiled to say something that contributes absolutely nothing
1:26 those things shouldn’t be what makes you decide to get the games it should be the lore the sound track the colorful characters the world building 1:26 Kind of a poor and superficial reason to skip a game tbh Swsh were great very endearing and whimsical Ur loss u missed out on something very endearing and wholesome cuz of it tbh
The best Pokemon game is still Pokken Tournament. I had interest in Legend of Arceus, but in the end it looks to similar to the main Pokemon games, which are for me boring. The Pokemon Pinball games and the Mystery Dungeons games are fun too. Also I am a little bit salty that we got Pokemon Puzzle League instead of a Panel De Pon game.
12;07 Pokémon games do take around 6 yrs it’s just not something we feel because multiple games are in development at the same time and they share resources with each other i believe
Smash is a fighting game Pokemon is a jrpg they aren’t going to have the same development philosophies Pokemon likes to bubble/stay in its own lane and do its own thing
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The freakleak revealed that they are actually aware of critical reception and are taking a lot of extra care with gen 10. Granted I think its more Nintendo putting pressure on them than the people in charge of the franchise actually caring about quality (the leak also revealed that Nintendo asked GF to delay Z-A, among many other interesting things), but with any luck we will get an answer to this question soon enough.
There is more than one way to care about quality
They care about the lore and the world building and the soundtrack and the story etc that’s the kind of quality that matters most
None of that technical graphics nonsense matters because that’s not the point
@@madnessarcade7447 It doesn't matter _that much_ but it has to work well at least. Crashing, lag spikes, or even full on perpetual lag... Those are unacceptable when the game looks the way it does
@@madnessarcade7447 I agree for the most part, but there is a point where the technical side is holding back the rest of the game and Scarlet/Violet are undeniably beyond that point (not even mentioning how variable framerates can make people feel sick). And for the record I still like SV, but man it could've been so much better.
We shouldn’t forget Nintendo are the ones chiefly in charge of the franchise due to majority ownership. If anything the delay to ZA shows nintendo was listening and let GameFreak have more time too.
@@VilasNilthe game worked enough to be able to finish the story
Not like it was Sonic 06 level
It was things barely anyone would encounter
8:36 Slight correction, LA is a mainline or "core series" game, as noted by the official Japanese Pokémon website. It definitely bucks the trend from the others and the point you're making was still valid, I just wanted to point that out because it is a common misconception that imo is somewhat harmful (great video btw)
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I appreciate your point on how 2 years is an aeon for kids, that’s been by far the best reason I’ve heard for keeping the yearly cadence for releases.
Agreed, I hadn't even considered that OR that a large swath of buyers are parents buying Pokemon games as birthday / christmas presents. When people usually used that argument that Pokemon could be made on short schedule because their audience is kids I didn't get it- wouldn't kids care about quality too? But Pokemon needing to squeeze out games in order to feed into kids fandoms before they get "too old" and want to jump on CoD or Fortnite instead was something I hadn't considered- the demographic is always changing and aging, so they are on a constant squeeze AND parents who don't follow the online discussions won't care that much about Pokemon to judge it on their own, they'll just buy the latest as a gift. Very much reasons outside my habits as a frequent gamer, but very important stuff to include in your perspective if you're discussing franchises with large "average person" appeal.
I think this is a great topic to examine. It has been very disappointing to see the Pokémon community reward TPC’s poor release with strong sales. Hard to examine historical what ifs, my hope is some how the next release doesn’t perform so poorly, but if I were them I’d feel license to continue putting in too short development timelines, as they aren’t too short to continue selling well.
It’s not even a community. Pokémon has something very few franchisss have, normie appeal. Literally it’s the people outside of the terminally online who talk about games and discuss these issues. You have the parents that have a little Timmy and they think “Hey Pokemon is a good game to give to the children” and do just that. With no real self awareness of the quality of the game.
@@jacobfoxfires9647 Pokemon is only a game, but it's also multimedia brand, cards game, cartoons, etc. Their ecosystem is really strong, and Nintendo start to do this with their franchise (at least with Mario).
Because they aren’t poor
The lore is amazing
The characters are amazing
The world building is amazing
The music is amazing
Those are the things they care more about
@@adult11252it’s series symbiosis
@@madnessarcade7447 yeah all they need to get right is performance and it will be great.
On the pokedex: having the pokemon playable in game does not necessitate they be catchable. The regional pokedex can stay at 400 with dlc pokedex at 250. The issue was that Gamefreak allegedly needed time to remake old assets 5 years ago. but by now they should have had enough time to make these reusable assets for the majority of the existing 1025 pokemon
Not to defend Gamefreak, but they still need to update a bunch of stuff each generation even if the base models are the same (also they need to load the data for all the Pokemon which could worsen performance). It could VERY easily be averted by not having ridiculously short dev times, but this is still a bit of an oversimplification.
keep in mind Scarlet Violet already has around 750 (75%) of the total pokemon's data. And theyve achieved this only a few years after "starting from scratch". Unless there is some supercycle that again necessitates remaking all assets from scratch we should be at a point where all pokemon are "ready to go", so to speak.
But do you really need all 1000 Pokémon in one game though. Sounds like teedeous task to collect 1k+ Pokémon In single game just to get pokedex complete
@@BhargavN10 but like i just said, this was never about the regional dex. pokemon can be playable without being in the regional dex as they were for the first 7 gens. Also you dont have to catch anything. but thats kind of the main point of the game.
Weren't there some rumours a while back that some mistake had been made as they had attempted to remake all the Pokemon for Sword and Shield, but some mistake caused a lot of data to be corrupted in the process making it impossible to recreate all of it in time for release? Was it ever confirmed in any of these leaks that was true, or was it all just rumour-mongering?
I am in fact more worried that some of the positive stpes forward that Scarlet/Violet took will get overshadowed by the backlash of the game's performance and bugs.
The fact that the DLC areas seem to have level scaling for example gives me hope that they're also listening to this sort of feedback and taking notes, but who knows?
I doubt it. The game sold *very* well, and I think everyone who liked the game were talking about very different things from the ones who were disappointed. Scarlet and Violet were the best Pokémon games released a year or two too early; I think Game Freak understand that.
The switch is the perfect storm of a one again populair console with a large casual audience that buys a lot of games.
So the Pokemon games are perfect for attracting that audience (that doesn't care that much about technical performance and doesn't hear that much of the gaming news)
Also Legends Arceus probably got delayed, but the marketing machine of the rest of Pokémon doesn't allow delays of new generations of games. So that's the reason for the short timespan between
@@GeHeum The leak didn't have anything about Arceus getting delayed, though it did reveal that BDSP was conceptualized at the last minute for fear of backlash to a lack of a gen 4 remake (which is ironic in retrospect), so thats probably why.
gen 10 might've actually been delayed though (Z-A was slated for 2024, and gen 10 is slated for 2026, leaving a massive gap)
Yeah that's the big issue is how Pokemon attracts the uber normies. And that carried the switch era games. It does however bring in an interesting thought. What could they have gotten if the quality control was more in check and the games didn't run like ass? Could they have gotten closer to the RGB releases back when it first launched? And I think they realize that now.
Performance aside, SV are the most complete titles and best experience in the series hands down. i am highly critical of gamefreak and Ive played all games. i am not surprised these continue to sell well and shatter records.
theres 3 categories the latest entry will aways have the edge in: Quality of Life, connectivity, and sheer content. Old games rule in the nostalgia dept, but you have to admit the sheer amount of content is impressive. B2W2 had 300 catchable pokemon and 650 playable ones. SV has 650 catchable mons and several dozens more playable, on top of a myriad of plotlines and objectives essentially triple that of the standard gym challenge.
Yeah, I have the same opinion. The game is clearly unfinished and if you poke around you can see a lot of areas that never got cleaned up, the performance sucks and the game had crashing(!!) issues.
If you can look past all that though, the actual game underneath is really solid and especially in the DLC shows that it's not a matter of competence holding Gamefreak back - they clearly have the skill and means to make something great - but the timescales and demands of being the arbiter of the biggest franchise on the planet really do take their toll.
the games are ugly
This! Scarlet and Violet were undeniably held back by the dev time but even despite that, they manage to come out as my favourite games in the series. The story, ease of gameplay (when it’s unhampered by performance issues) and streamlining of core mechanics such as IV training they really just feel the best to play. The only games I’ve completed the pokedex in multiple times over!
It was the first pokemon game in a long while to make me feel something, that’s for sure. Would it have a national dex and less glitches, I might even call it my favorite pokemon game of all times. But alas, Emerald and White will have to remain on top I guess for the 10th or so year (2011 was 10 years ago, right?), with Violet « just » being third place.
this man’s a poet. “voted with my feet and skipped that generation.” bars
If I ever open my own development studio, I want you to be my director of strategy
Great video. Yeah you hit the nail on the head. Despite the flaws of the recent entries, the sales show no *need* for them to improve their quality, and longer dev cycles would probably decrease revenue, despite leading to better products. As a major Pokémon fan ScVi were the first games I didn't buy because the issues with SwSh and BDSP (both of which I feel are bad) knocked the series from it's absolute throne in my heart, and now it has to sell itself to me like most ofter games.
I feel there are some other avenues the series could take in order to improve, and the Legends games are my current hope, but otherwise I'm not having much faith in the core series currently.
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another one who does not see the vision
@@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101 What vision?
If it adds anything, sc/vi is the first time i'm actually invested in a pokemon game's story
@@davidtitanium22 I do think SV does have good points, the character writing being one of them (it’s absolutely stellar). And I do think they’re not bad games (ok ish imo) and a lot better than SwSh and BDSP. However as I said I think they’re only ok overall and that’s no longer enough for me to purchase Pokémon.
Pokémon Red/Green/Blue sold 31.4M, but Yellow sold another 14.6M, for a grand total of 46M. I consider Yellow to be pretty much the same game as Red/Green/Blue. So even if Scarlet and Violet so more than vanilla Red and Green in Japan, it did not sell more if you count Yellow.
If you do deep dive TPC, I reccomend watching Moon Channel's video "Who Really Owns Pokémon?," if you haven't already, since it seems up your alley.
Let me save ypur time. Nintendo owns pokemon
Regardless of the complaints that reviewers and TH-camrs drone on about about bugs, the bugs barely ever affected my game and I feel were greatly overstated by critics.
The fact is Pokemon S&V is such a fun game; great game play; Great story, great characters, great battling system, new top raids every few weeks, loads to do. Add in the DLCs keep the game alive and give more lore and the Epilogue was a lovely ending that ties the main game and DLC characters nicely together and rounds off the themes of the game nicely, that gives some nice closure.
It's far from perfect, but it's a ton of fun. IMO the best Pokemon game so far.
Oh wow, that does make me feel like picking it up. Hmm...
@@nintendoforecast i agree with the guy honestly its an amazing game the only thing holding it back is performance. the bugs mostly are not a huge deal tho bad. the graphics dont need to be great but certainly i wish they were better. but there are genuinely things that look good such as character models and especially Pokemon models i feel those look quite nice. but yeah if you cna handle the preform its good
Honestly, the graphics don't bother me in general. My issue with Sword and Shield was less that the graphics looked bad than that it looked dreary and uninspiring. I never felt that with Gen 8 trailers.
@@nintendoforecast SV is definitely a lot more vibrant, while I don’t want to sell you on it it definitely has it’s charms and I do think you might enjoy it. However imo Legends Arceus is a far better game, and if you haven’t played some older entries like Gen 5, 7, Platinum, HGSS, and RSE I would recommend those far more than SV. Considering you like the spin-offs I would recommend Mystery Dungeon DX over it as well, the mystery dungeon spin-offs are great.
A lot of the most visible bugs that became memetic online were localized entirely to how busted co-op mode could get with mangling things. If you didn't play co-op, you wouldn't run into most of the ones people liked to poke fun at, but with the internet being the internet, this wasn't really ever mentioned.
Pokemon is an entire brand and not just games. They need to have ways to fulfill mindshare the same way Nintendo does for their overall business.
I think Legends: Z-A taking six or more months than usual to release is a good sign that this isn’t going to continue. Also, Scarlet and Violet were the exception in terms of just how unfinished they were; they were clearly crunching to a strict deadline and assumed earlier in development that they would make 11/22 even in spite of COVID (baffling). They’ve actually been remarkably consistent on releasing finished games on a regular schedule before 2022, where they first dabbled in a large open world and thought they could continue doing things the same way lol. Also, the next gen is looking like a late 2026 game both because of Z-A’s later 2025 release and the leak that the former is a Switch 2 game.
I tend to hold more a pessimistic/hesitant view on SV, but I'll try to keep it toned down! I think that the main thing that ruined my experience of SV was probably the game crashing on me 2 separate times (and I had the autosave off so I lost progress). The other thing that bothered me was that once I finished the main game, completed the pokedex, there really wasn't anything else for me to do aside from the 7-star tera-raid battles (which are hard if you go in without a strategy, lol). And I'm not much of a shiny hunter, either... and comp battling is fun, but you have to go online for that. I think depending on your interpretation, the game is received with more of a mixed reception. I will say though, I did really enjoy SV's story. The characters were really good, too (at least for a pokemon game)! I just wish there was more to do offline once you complete all the main story stuff. Oh, and I guess I should acknowledge that the idea of "lacking in postgame content" is also just more of an issue with modern pokemon games, not just SV. I personally also wouldn't include DLC with postgame, but that's just what I think and you're welcome to have your own opinion!
6:30 what everyone seems to forget is that pokemon is multimedia so it has a symbiotic relationship with itself because of its other pillars like tcg and anime etc
Those are things Mario and Zelda don’t have which everyone continues to neglect
Pokemon is in its own lane and shouldn’t be compared to other Nintendo franchises
It’s one of a kind and handles itself in a different way
@@madnessarcade7447 wth? we are talking solely abput the games, so yes, they should obviously be compared. Y'all really have the lowest standards ever, seems like you'll consume fast food and then defend it as if it was a full, hearty nutritious meal
Breath of the Wild was the first Zelda game that made me a genuine Zelda fan. I had played many other Zelda games before, but Breath of the Wild (Zelda's first open world game) blew me away and really made me interested in the series and genuinely looking forward to whatever they might release next. Pokemon is now having an inverse effect on me; I have been a life long fan but Scarlet and Violet (Pokemon's first open world games) have actually made me quite scrupulous toward the series' quality and have made me seriously consider whether the series as a whole is worth my time and money anymore.
From my perspective it's well deserved, after playing them myself I very much feel like the problems people were talking about were greatly and I mean greatly over exaggerated.
So no I'm not worried about what they do next but thats just my opinion
The idea of splitting the mainline team into two teams so they have more time to cook and polish is quite brilliant. Nice thought there.
The anime is one major problem with the idea of 6 year generations (Which can be solved with the adding a new team approach suggested, since there would still be a new gen every 3 years). They basically have to double the length of every series to fill the gap.
The merch and TCG also somewhat rely on new pokemon but I feel the mid gen games like Legends can solve that issue.
Perhaps Pokemon manages to get similar sales numbers with each entry because of the multiplayer and social component. As Splatoon 2 and 3 also sold quite similarly. it gives pressure for all existing fans to keep up and for new fans to join a fresh online community,
This is an excellent point.
one thing i think is important for sales is the anime. much like how youtube is core to the sales of games like Minecraft and roblox, the anime is an important marketing tool.
the new anime is much better and fun imo, but it hasn't reached the same level of hype and popularity, which is a big loss on pokemons part.
I think there are definitely a number of reasons behind Legends Arceus selling less than every other mainline Pokemon game on Switch. It didn't release in the coveted holiday slot, it was sandwiched between two other Pokemon games, and it didn't have a second version to bolster its sales due to people doubledipping. I think Z-A has the potential to do better than Arceus if it's cross-generation, though it sounds like it might only be intended for Switch based on the Teraleak.
Also, I would definitely recommend you rectify skipping over New Pokemon Snap if it even vaguely interests you. There's nothing else quite like it (except for the first game), and it really hooked me in when I played through it. I would love to see a sequel.
I bought Violet, ignored the rumours of performance issues and it's just unplayable for me. Perhaps I should have tried to get a refund but what's done is done. Struggled through the tutorial section and have no desire to play it because of the performance issues. I had hoped that they would improve it eventually but that didn't come to pass,at least not enough for me. My only hope for it now is maybe it gets some sort of general boost from being playable on Switch 2. I'd love to play it and maybe buy the DLC when I'm finished with the main game, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up as regards a performance upgrade from Switch 2.
All this is to explain my point of why I'm not going to go head first into the next one if I hear that there are performance issues. Perhaps others will adopt the same line of thinking, although whether or not it would be enough to put a real dent in sales, I'm not sure.
Once bitten, twice shy. I'd love for Pokemon to be great and think the series has awesome potential, but it needs adequate time and resources for that to happen.
It doesn't necessarily, just the goodwill people have in tpc mostly
It's simple - it's too fun to sleep on.
I can't deny an awful FPS with terrible environment, in fact, I agree that it's unacceptable for an exclusive console game. That Nintendo's "Seal of Quality" must NOT be on the game's case. However, it's hard to ignore or boycott it, especially when the open world is interesting, the story is really good for the series and that game in particular has probably some of the best characters in the series as well.
And I guess many fans feel the same way. Yeah, I guess we're the part of the problem.
I just want the dexcut to end.
Not gonna happen, they will continue to if for no other reason than competetive battling balancing.
New mechanic would break a old pokemon? Not in this dex = solved
@micabryant4513 you know they can just blanket ban Pokémon right?
I’d say Legends Arceus is the one you’re missing out on big time. Especially as someone who usually mentions how much they like open-air, sprawling games with involved and active gameplay. You won’t really get that from Scarlet/Violet
Oh, I was day 1 on Arceus. It's not my favourite game ever or anything but I enjoyed it a lot. It was Sword/Shield and Sc/Vi that I ducked although I am considering Sc/Vi.
I think they were fun games even though they are poorly optimized. I hope ZA is even better
I think Go was an overall negative for Pokemon as a franchise due to it effectively killing off most of the spinoffs and it making TPC not care as much about game quality when they have Go as such a massive cashcow.
I was hoping that the success of palworld would make TPC start to care again and take notes,but sadly they decided to shoot themselves in the foot by suing them.
A slight off topic comment. But you should really give arcius another look. The graphics weren't the best and alot of ->competitive
I think I must have misspoken or been ambiguous in the video because I was talking about Sw/Sh not Arceus about graphics . I enjoyed Arceus.
@nintendoforecast ahhh maybe I got confused. only watched through once. I came away thinking you didn't play it due to negative criticism. I'm glad you did get to play it though.^^
Every time we buy one of these games, we keep thinking "This is the one where they turn things around!", and then it doesn't. Eventually though, we'll all give up, the bubble will burst, and the sales of these games will probably drop quite a bit (though it will still probably sell really well even then).
Speak for yourself. Ive never had that thought and Ive never been disappointed in my purchase. I will admit that after sword and sheild I told myself that the only new pokemon game I will buy again are the gen 4 remakes, because I didn’t expect change and I wanted one more trip through sinnoh. But then they did change and I loved it. Never did buy those g4 remakes tho.
@serpentmaster1323 Ok, fair. I did honestly love Legends Arceus, but S/V was... not ideal, to say the least.
12:15 - If this is the case, then Nintendo, Game Freak & The Pokémon Company need to invest in MORE DEVELOPMENT TEAMS!
Call of Duty is a signficantly better looking, technically superior, and more ambitious undertaking, yet they figured out how to release a game YEARLY, and support it with additional content.
You know why? Because they scaled up staffing, resources & budgets for their development teams each generation to match demands.
Then they hired more teams to work on new CoD games simultaneously, so they could have proper time to develop each entry while staggering releases.
Meanwhile, Game Freak has barely increased in size & still treats Pokemon like it's a tiny, AA indie franchise...
The options aren't only A) rush out low quality, unfinished products so babies & small children get their yearly Pokemon fix or B) take longer, risk lower gross sales but release higher quality games.
They can do both if they cared enough.
It almost sounds like all the 3ds players just moved to the switch. Maybe just the main core audience
As much I'm on the team of a "pokemon BOTW", I think the most profitable next step for Pokemon would be a GAAS. Pokemon is the best IP for this, making it an MMO, add seasons, microtransactions. Instead of "Pokemon BOTW", It would be "Pokemon Geshin Impact".
11:46 dude legends Arceus was so beautiful I can't grasp why people hated on its graphics since it's like an expression painting
I was referring to Sw/Sh. I love Arceus' look.
I wonder what happened to that boycott for sword and shield went in 2019 that was supposed to happen? The Pokemon franchise earn 10.8 billion dollars last year in 2023. I think they also earn 11.8 billion I think in 2021 as well. I recently went to Japan with of my mom because of my mom’s job since she works for the government for cybersecurity in September this month. And i went to four Pokemon centers in Japan just collecting merchandise, tcg, and other things. I was having a good time just going to Pokemon centers in Japan. I was collecting merchandise with the Pokemon music in the background, well the current Pokemon generation music anyway. It’s all going up and popular than it was before. The money and the popularity of the Pokemon franchise. During Nintendo investors meeting, they reported that Pokemon earned 100 or 99 million dollars on switch alone. We also have to remember every connected to the games that’s not just the mainline games. For a 6 or 7 years generation cycle, that’s all mainline games, spinoff games, anime, vgc tournaments, manga, merchandise, tcg, and everything else in that 7 or 6 years span of time. Im not sure I want to watch Pokemon journeys for 6 or 7 years which was the mainline gen 8 anime for sword and shield. As for me, I have continued to play the Pokemon games multiple times over. As i have three copies each of sun, moon, Omega ruby, alpha sapphire, x and y, and ultra sun and moon for the 2ds xl and 3ds xl. I have played an unhealthy amount of pokemon at least for the mainline games over the past 6 to 7 years. I had problems with sword and shield and scarlet and violet but I enjoyed nonetheless. I didn’t encounter most of the problems that majority of online did but I did have fps issues and other small things here and there but nothing major really.
Couldn't agree more - I have zero interest in this series, but bless them for the sales.
I don't think they are unaware. But people are giving them mixed signals with the two games on the switch being the 2nd and 3rd best selling games on the Switch AT FULL PRICE AS WELL. Like this is the first time these games are $60. Which to me, are not worth 60 bucks.
I think with Nintendo apologizing upon GFs behalf was a wake up call. Cause after that, TPC suddenly cared about the quality and had delayed not only ZA, but also Gen 10 by a year. As TPC are the ones setting the schedule and all of that is determined by the games coming out on time. This isn't entirely blameless on GF either. As they have probably the worst leadership and is overconfident in his team DESPITE it only being 160 members. Which all have to work on Gen 10, Gen 11, and Gen 12 all at the same time. Along with any other games in between. Overworked as hell and GF seems to get it because they are also opening up for more people to join. So with more time and hopefully more manpower to help in this process, the pokemon games will have some better quality control.
Software sells, not graphics.
Uhhhh didn’t Smash 4 3DS outsell the Wii U version…?
I've actually been playing Pokemon since I was a kid even though I'm in my twenties I still kind of like Pokemon but I have someone falling off after the anime I still try to play the game but it does feel weird especially with Ash Ketchum gone but if they can fix Scarlett and violet or make a better game like Legend z a I'll probably buy the game if it doesn't have any bugs
Make a full deep dive video into yoshiaki koizumi
I personally have a bone to pick with most of the online discourse on Scarlet and Violet. Now I'm personally not someone who's affected by visuals much. Gameplay and story are what's important to me, so I never even noticed until I watched some people play it on youtube and complain. For me, the game was the most innovative, best Pokémon game ever made, and I think the sales numbers reflect that.
Yet when I see people talk about the series online, even huge fans of it, they all talk about how they feel the series is going downhill and they don't have any enthusiasm for the next upcoming games. It just feels like it's popular to hate on the game while ignoring the factors that caused the problems that can be easily fixed for the next generation. The big problem everyone loves to harp on is the 3 year schedule and there not being enough time to do the game justice, and that's already been fixed as the game has been delayed to give it the extra problem, but there's another thing I see people ignore.
The biggest thing no one ever talks about, and that drives me up the wall, is Covid. Pokémon is a huge, complex coordination between games, cards, and tv shows that cannot be altered on a dime, and Covid dropped right in the middle of Scarlet and Violet's production. Of course there were serious, visible problems, unlike other games the couldn't just delay the game half a year when the Tv show and card game had to have it come out.
I personally recommend Scarlet and Violet to anyone and everyone who enjoys Pokémon. It's just the best game in the series easily. I'm also super hyped for the future of Pokémon. Without a global pandemic happening and with additional time for polish I think the next game will blow everyone's mind.
If enough people just want the product out of pure, let’s say, “fandom” (or just unawareness) then it doesn’t really matter how trash the game is a profit will be made.
To play a bit of devil's advocate, pretty much every single Pokemon game released have never been as technically marred as SV was. Even red and blue, as glitchy as it can be, don't just crash on you or give you missingno out of nowhere. You have to look for them to trigger them. So, I think that SV was initially meant for a way more powerful hardware than the Switch. keep in mind, we have had just insane amount of rumors floating about for the Switch Pro and the OLED version could have been that. So, Gamefreak could have been making the game for the Pro and had to quickly shift to a much less capable Og Switch which is what resulted in a technical mess of a game. Although, I don't understand why they decided to put water under the entire region. Regardless, neither SWSH, LGPE, or PLA were anywhere close to the technical jank SV had. I mean, just the fully unlocked tegra chip gives you a near locked 30 fps on SV. I imagine a more powerful system could have given us that and the different lighting we saw for the game in the teraleaks.
Breath of the wild and tears used the same technique with their water..wasnt an issue there. You can also glitch through the world there but apparently only an issue if pokemon does it...
Interesting stuff!
The Sims is still huge, but the main audience is overwhelmingly women (that is why you don't hear about it on gamer circles, which are male dominated). The Sims 4 turned 10 years old this year and is still getting 40 USD DLCs every year. They even made the base game free and canceled the sequel to focus entirely on The Sims 4.
NO MORE DEX CUT IN ALL THE FUTURE POKEMON GAMES!
6:03 Pokémon has always been innovating and changing things up so I wouldn’t say predictable
Predictability isn’t the samething as tradition
They have always experimented with new concepts and mechanics
Like breeding,natures,abilities, following pokemon, overworld encounters, physical special split, mega evolution,Zmoves, gigantamax/dynamax amie/refresh/camping, even motion controls from let’s go do these features not count as evolving/progressing are these things not ambitious?
The restructuring of the traditional Pokémon format by having the third legendary as the main focus not to mention being the first Pokémon games ever to do DLC and the regional evolutions
Also the various QoL stuff even having dynamax and gigantamax and you would not have SV without the wild area all of these new ideas and things for the franchise
Are these not ambitious
I mean all these things have changed the franchise in substantial ways
Every generation offers something ambitious is replacing gyms with trials not ambitious? Or making the galar league a tournament like the anime instead of a traditional elite four is that not ambitious
Sure none of them have ever been this super drastic
But to say it’s “not innovating” is a bit disingenuous
Has the steps in previous games been a bit smaller I mean sure
But baby steps and even medium steps is still progression
Why do we count this and not those
Shouldn’t it all count?
Some of these things maybe temporary but they are still creative and ambitious and drastically change the course of the franchise so they count
@@madnessarcade7447 "baby steps are progression" pokemon is literally like the number 1 media franchise in the world they have unlimited money to do a lot more than baby steps. Y'all need to raise ypurs standards regarding the billion dollar company
Honestly, this is one of those situations where "Community > Industry".
If anyone is a casual observer, or even if they're an expert observer, but never participated in the Pokemon Community itself, they'd be dumbfounded as to why Pokemon continues to thrive, when all other game series who've been guilty of far less have failed and were expectedly abandoned.
Scarlet & Violet is a mess in more ways than one. It's buggy (not as consistently buggy as the memes would have people believe, but you can't go through the whole game and never run into it), lacks polish, is blatantly missing a lot of features (every Pokemon game is guilty of this, but this one was the most obvious), is inconsistent in its writing (characters act entirely different between main storyline and Area Zero) , and just feels like a game full of failed promises.
Sword & Shield took three steps forward, but didn't check to see if there was a pitfall in front of them, and subsequently fell through. It promised much, but delivered far less. The world was smaller than it made itself out to be (feeling cramped and uninspired after seeing everything there was to see). It had horrible balancing that made the game unintentionally too easy (blame it on Raids). And overall, it felt like a step back from the handheld games due to all those things lining up perfectly wrong.
Legend Arceus is an excellent game... If it had released during the GameCube years. While there was technically nothing too wrong with it, there were many portions that felt incomplete and lacking in features that align with (good) modern game designs. Looking at it from a distance, it has the design and appeal of a PS2 game. Which is a GREAT thing, BUT... We're talking about the Pokemon Company, who surely has enough money and resources to produce a game more fitting for the console generation.
Let's Go Pikachu & Eevee felt like several steps back for the Pokemon series, but this was intentional, as it was made to market to the Pokemon Go and Gen 1 players. If it had released during the peak of Pokemon Go on the Wii U (I'm convinced it was planned to release on the Wii U, but when The Pokemon Company saw how poorly the console was doing in sales, they backed out, hid the game away, released Sun&Moon on the 3DS, then brought it out of its case when the Switch rolled in and showed financial success), then the appeal of it would've been better understood. But as it released on the Switch, long after the Go hype has died, and long past the "Gen 1 is best" fad, it failed to pleased any audience with its archaic and questionable design.
But... This is just looking at the games from an outsider's perspective.
If you participated in the Community consistently - whether you joined multiple offline Tournaments, played the TCG at your local comic book shops, lined up at the Pop Up shops to buy limited time merchandise, or even just posted and shared fanart online - you'd quickly realize that Pokemon runs on a COMPLETELY different track than the rest of the gaming industry, even by Nintendo standards.
It's never about "will this game be better than the last", or "does this game look/run well", or even "are they listening to the community"... It's simply about:
"What are the new Pokemon?"
"What's the new region?"
"Who are the new Gym Leaders?"
"Who are the villains this time?"
"What's the new gimmick?"
"How's the music?"
"How's the multiplayer?"
Notice how only the very last two have a win/fail condition.
The Pokemon Community doesn't check to see if people/reviews like the newest mainline, or even if the newest mainline is playable, or if the game's better than the last: They just check to see if they can be absorbed into the world and play with friends.
If the latter sucks, it takes away a good chunk of the sales (which makes one wonder how much better Arceus would've sold).
But if the former sucks: That's how a mainline Pokemon game stops selling.
That's the only condition they care about in the Community.
And since that bar is fairly low: Pokemon doesn't have a chance at losing anymore.
They did lose with the older generation (as many quit before touching Gen 2, even more before touching Gen 3, and more before touching Gen 5)... But the kids raised on this? This is a culture for them now, not a product.
Yeah, the Sims is still a thing
Hey all you people shitting on Scarlet and Violet..
The games function fine, framerate is a bit naff but beyond that its bug free since patching.
In terms of gameplay, story, characters and worldbuilding this was the best pokemon by far.
How many of you are just bandwagoning with no actual experience of the game?
And how many that do played after the patches were implemented?
Nobody needs your unqualified speculation..
mainline pokemon games would benefit A LOT from a boycott. the more extreme, the better. but sadly it'll never happen.
I'm going to tell you something you're not going to wanna hear. Boycotts can actually increase the value of a company. As they are can often act as free advertising and very good advertising at that. There's a reason the expression "there's no such thing as bad advertising" exists.
You're right, they would benefit a lot. In sales. It's one of the reasons that Sword and Shield sold so well.
I think it's probably best if gamefreak let's a new and inspired director handle the mainline series (at least for gen10) the series has gotten stail and has lost all semblance of quality with the switch era.
Also more development time of course.
i dont think that at all. the only problem is dev time. i think the devs are great. most things besides performance and graphics in scarlet and violet are geuninly innovate and have changes to how the games work. the story well told with interesting charterers and the music and battles fresh as ever
It's 100% a dev time issue. It has nothing to do with competence or passion. Sure a more competent dev team would've made a less buggy SV, BUT they'd still have the terrible crunch issue. GameFreak if anything has TOO MUCH passion for the franchise, they regularly try to do too much and have to heavily cut back to meet these deadlines.
Bugs aside ScarVi was fantastic. Bugs barely exist in the current form of the game anyway.
Tcg pocket will boost sv sales
I'm kinda worried gamefreak sees this as a justification to not bother making functional games anymore seeing how this is (somehow?!) the best selling pokemon game yet.
Hope I'm wrong and we can go back to pre switch era of quality at least🤞
They’re functional enough in the lore and story and world building and soundtrack etc something they care about more than the superficialities
My hundreds of hours play would argue they are perfectly functional.
You dont know what your talking about. 😅
I don't buy pokemon games given they're so incomplete
12;07 Pokémon games do take around 6 yrs it’s just not something we feel because multiple games are in development at the same time and they share resources with each other i believe
@@madnessarcade7447 3 ish, not 6. Your information is extremely wrong. GF said themselves SwSh development started in 2017.
@@samuelturner6076it’s 3-6 like how rby took 6 years
@@samuelturner6076every game is different
So it’s not that I’m wrong it’s just flexible
@@madnessarcade7447 No, you are wrong. Pokémon games consistently have around a 3 year development cycle. Channels like Lewtwo have gone over this.
Respectfully! Saying Smash Bros includes every fighter from the franchise across the vast it has so Pokémon should be able to include over 1,000 Pokémon for every game is an incredibly unfair metric
Smash gets one game per console and they’re always years apart. Pokémon is almost yearly and the Pokédex is normally expected to grow by close to 100 with each generation (lesser now of course). There are ppl that are also (for some reason) expecting them to all have new models and animations every single time or they get called “lazy”. Game Freak is getting crunched and pressured beyond belief to keep up with how much they’re being asked of. Both franchises put in the most and have loads to tend to, but I feel Pokemon is declining in quality becsuse there’s literally no time for them to actually make a game that exceeds the odds in performance in ways we’ve seen the other franchises do
It’s unfortunate really. All just my opinion!
Smash is a fighting game Pokemon is a jrpg they aren’t going to have the same development philosophies
Pokemon likes to bubble/stay in its own lane and do its own thing
Critical reception doesnt mean anything, especially after the successive western Triple A$$ woke flops this year. Game devs can just pay for a good rating.
Case in point: Drag Queen The Fail Guard has an obvious cover up of its actual quality. But the problem is it stinks.
Critical reception doesn't mean squat when 98% of the people who buy the game either are long terms fans whose love for the series have not been diminished by the downgrade in quality/content over the years or very casual fanbase who just buy the game and enjoy it.
Scarlett and Violet are the best games in the series. Ive played em all im 38.
I bought Violet used on eBay, but even as a long-time fan unfortunately I just couldn't get into it after the first few gyms. This isn't even because of "bugs", but because 1) the frame rate was absolutely garbage althroughout, and 2) I've lost all respect for Nintendo after they made online multiplayer paid, limited Pokemon transfers to that online service, limited Pokemon to paid DLC in an 80$ game, and the recent Palworld and Emulator cases. Do youself a favour and just play romhacks of the old Pokemon games instead, at least they add features and not take them away.
Nintendo went from a company that produced childhood memories onto game cartridges, to the same money-grubbing soulless hacks that we used laugh and point at Sony and Microsoft for, but now lump them in with.
Alot of the purchases are due to them blindly buying cause brand reputation from paste 2 decade rather than doing thier research on said company.
Advise would be before buying a product do your research.
Scarlett and Violet were the best in the franchise. Bad framerate didnt change that..your a fool
The graphics for detective pikachu aren’t bad it’s have always looked like that it’s an intentional artistic choice it’s part of the charm the previous game looked like that too
It’s part of the charm to make the characters more expressive
You are too focused on the superficiality of the graphics to appreciate the personality of the game itself
Wait a sec, you said you didn't know THE SIMS was a thing? You mean, one of the top 10 most played franchises? bro come on this is a comedic joke rn????
For younger players was my point.
Wassuuuuuuup
Pokemon is the only bad thing that Nintendo did this generation. That and not releasing
F-Zero
Clown..
How are you so out of touch that you didn't know The Sims was still a thing?????? There are hundreds of channels that are dedicated they're talking about it.
14:11 I’ve seen a lot of players say they’re getting tired of the longer dev times so getting upset at something being more consistent is a bit hypocritical
I think this is a simple case of two separate vocal minorities complaining about opposite problems, not necessarily hypocrisy.
It doesnt because fan boys will buy anything.
14:08 things true fans should care about
Those opinions are vocal minority
Most people the true fans the general audience don’t care for the technical stuff they like the world and the lore and creatures
People forgot what made Pokemon special to begin with they see Pokémon as a game or any other series that’s either good or bad but it’s not that it’s more than that Pokemon isn’t only games as a brand so stop treating it as if it’s just games when u say it’s dying cuz it’s not it’s more alive than ever
It’s a culture and a lifestyle a living breathing world with a story and lore and characters
We form parasocial relationships with these fictional animals because we love them so much and they have so much personality and backstory and it is a very customizable series it’s a perfect creative outlet
10:22 Pokémon team wasn’t experienced enough with switch hardware when they first started development for the game and they are a smaller team then most also the game was made during Covid so it had a decent amount of obstacles and it couldn’t be delayed because they have to abide by the merch and the anime and the tcg
They have to be symbiotic with themselves
When people criticize them these are things no one considers
They have since likely gotten better they always learn as they go
Also their budgets are always small
10:22 Pokémon team wasn’t experienced enough with switch hardware when they first started development for the game and they are a smaller team then most also the game was made during Covid so it had a decent amount of obstacles and it couldn’t be delayed because they have to abide by the merch and the anime and the tcg
They have to be symbiotic with themselves
When people criticize them these are things no one considers
their dev time is 3-6 actually u just don’t feel it cuz they work on multiple projects simultaneously with the budget of a Disney channel movie around 15-20mil and they have to balance game release with the anime and the cards
Everyone can say pokemon should be like Zelda or xenoblade but those games don’t have an anime and a tcg they have to abide by it’s like jenga
Also they do make decisions dictated by the competitive scene
And they may or may not share resources that part I’m unsure of
Hot take:
the point of Pokémon is to appeal to the widest audience possible and that there’s something for everyone from mainline to the anime to the spin offs
Well maybe if people got into the other avenues of the franchise rather than solely the games u wouldn’t be disappointed
Since the series was designed to be symbiotic with itself and to experience every avenue together for a complete experience
U guys need to reevaluate ur priorities Visuals,frame rate,art style are irrelevant
People are too focused on superficial nonsense
let’s be real u didn’t get into the original games for the graphics
And If u didn’t play games for the graphics as a kid then why would u play them for the graphics now
Sorry u forgot what the point of Pokémon was to begin with
Pokémon SV isn’t an unfinished game they just pull all the effort into the shit that ACTUALLY matters
Pokémon is always meant to be an entry level jrpg maybe the people trying to hate on pokemon maybe they just aren’t into jrpgs
If
The lore was good
The writing was good
The music was good
The vibes were good
The messages were good
The character designs were good
That’s all you really need
The series knows what it is and its niche(by niche I mean space) and what it wants to be and there’s nothing wrong with that and it doesn’t have to be anything else
The mainstream audience doesn’t care about graphics or bugs or anything they just like to vibe
People are just trying to make it something that is isn’t
And something that doesn’t fit its style
Maybe u don’t like Pokemon just aren’t into RPGs and that’s fine dont have to use that as an excuse to be toxic
If its not ur thing just move on imo
They’re gonna do their own thing and be their own thing in their own way
Pokémon is always meant to be an entry level jrpg maybe the people trying to hate on pokemon maybe they just aren’t into jrpgs
If
The lore was good
The writing was good
The music was good
The vibes were good
The messages were good
The character designs were good
That’s all you really need
The series knows what it is and its niche(by niche I mean space) and what it wants to be and there’s nothing wrong with that and it doesn’t have to be anything else
The mainstream audience doesn’t care about graphics or bugs or anything they just like to vibe
People are just trying to make it something that is isn’t
And something that doesn’t fit its style
Maybe u don’t like Pokemon just aren’t into RPGs and that’s fine dont have to use that as an excuse to be toxic
If its not ur thing just move on imo
They’re gonna do their own thing and be their own thing in their own way
Calling pokemon “lazy” is lazy they got more to do than most devs they make two games and have to be symbiotic with the rest of the series and all this other stuff
They can’t delay the game they have a symbiotic release system
The games are leashed to the anime,tcg,etc and the anime,tcg etc is leashed to the games
Tpc is constantly playing a game of jenga trying to balance each of its branches
The games are in development for 3-6 years we just don’t feel it because a lot of times they work on multiple generations at the same time they have two teams the games have a 15-20 million dollar budget
They probably share resources
Maybe about the sharing idk
They have been working on Gen 10 for a few years now
Visuals,frame rate,art style are irrelevant
People are too focused on superficial nonsense
If
The lore was good
The writing was good
The music was good
The vibes were good
The messages were good
The character designs were good
That’s all you really need
A believe people still care about that frame stuff
I’m sorry people got so lost and brainwashed by the superficialities of the industry you forgot what Pokémon was originally about
And I know that the game isn’t perfect and that there’s issues
Pokémon is a franchise where the theme is friendship is magic and meeting cute and cool unique monsters
What the hell does graphics and performance have to do with those things?
Nothing if you wanna criticize a franchise criticize it on whether or not it delivered on the messages and themes it promised
Was friendship magic?
Did you meet cute and cool unique creatures?
Ok then it’s a good game
Those are what’s important to Pokémon
As the og theme said
Pokémon is about
Oh your my best friend in a world we must defend
I will travel across the land searching far and wide each pokemon to understand the power that’s inside
Our hearts so true our courage will pull us through
you teach me and I teach you”
That’s what it is about and that’s what it will always be about and if that’s what it continues to be about until the end
Then that’s a strong enough ending for me
Not sure what graphics and animation and performance has to do with that
Performance graphics those things never Mattered
You have to remember pokemon games have only been 3D since 2013 that’s pretty recent compared to other games like Zelda that have been 3D since the 90s and early 2000s so obviously they’re gonna be behind Mixed with the fact that They can’t delay the game because main console for only 5 years compared to Zelda since n64
The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship
The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games
And it’s about time you all understand that by now
They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime
The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga
If you move one thing it all falls apart
They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that
Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games
they are still learning as they go so y’all gotta be patient and give them time to catch up
Their partnership with take two they’ll apply what they learn back into Pokémon so that’s good
You have to remember gamefreak are inexperienced with developing open world games so of course there will be some trial and error the more they work on and improve the game and do future games the better at it they’ll get
Rome wasn’t built in a day we need to be patient
Assuming we get more open world games
NOT TO MENTION ScarVi’s development was probably screwed up by the pandemic
Probably turned it upside down
And before u say just delay the game
They can’t delay the game
The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship
The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games
And it’s about time you all understand that by now
They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime
The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga
If you move one thing it all falls apart
They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that
Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games
it’s not outdated it’s rebellious and nonconformist
The games aren’t rushed there is a schedule they abide by for symbiosis
The games and the anime and tcg are all beholden to each other
You can’t move one without ruining the groove
Unless you one gen 10 game to come out years after the gen 10 anime and have it spoiled
There is a symbiosis there
When you watch the anime it makes u wanna play the game and vice versa so they are companion pieces designed to be experienced together for a complete experience
They choose to live in their own bubble and be one of a kind and not imitate what everyone else does and they have my respect for that
the og games bugs are looked back on as charming
Give SV 20 years it’ll be the same
Running shmunning
whatever issue you have with the games that doesn’t mean anything for the entire franchise idk why you guys like to act like the games is the only part that exists
If u look at how well the show is doing and same with the spin offs and the tcg and the merch
No Pokémon is not “doing bad” lmao yall are so narrow minded it’s funny
I thought we all agreed that Nintendo’s strength is when they focus more on fun not graphics they aren’t Microsoft and Sony
Idk why this mentality changes when it comes to Pokemon
Sounds like hypocrisy to me
Take your meds.
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This sounds like a typical 'did not read' reaction, yet you still feel compiled to say something that contributes absolutely nothing
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1:26 those things shouldn’t be what makes you decide to get the games it should be the lore the sound track the colorful characters the world building
1:26 Kind of a poor and superficial reason to skip a game tbh
Swsh were great very endearing and whimsical
Ur loss u missed out on something very endearing and wholesome cuz of it tbh
The best Pokemon game is still Pokken Tournament. I had interest in Legend of Arceus, but in the end it looks to similar to the main Pokemon games, which are for me boring.
The Pokemon Pinball games and the Mystery Dungeons games are fun too. Also I am a little bit salty that we got Pokemon Puzzle League instead of a Panel De Pon game.
12;07 Pokémon games do take around 6 yrs it’s just not something we feel because multiple games are in development at the same time and they share resources with each other i believe
3, not 6. GF themselves said SwSh development started in 2017.
Smash is a fighting game Pokemon is a jrpg they aren’t going to have the same development philosophies
Pokemon likes to bubble/stay in its own lane and do its own thing