Royal Enfield Classic 350 REborn - "Sticky Speedo" Fix ? - Well It Worked For Me ( So Far ! )
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2022
- Hi there,
as I am not riding at the moment, I decided to try this potential fix for the sticky speedo issue I am having with my Royal Enfield Classic 350.
This fix was originally developed by @ridewithwarro and here is a link to his original video.
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Since I am facing an indefinite wait for my replacement speedo, I thought I might as well give Warro's fix a go, with surprising results !
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Seems Enfield is real British - Electric copied by Lucas and with a contract to the Union…
It‘s on strike here and there…😂😇
LOL Sexy !
Yes, I think RE may be taking upholding their tradition to extreme levels here !!! 🤔
Still, WD-40 and a hammer seems to sort it out, for now at least !
Cheers SSDS,
ER
I wish I'd seen this before I had my speedo replaced and the mileage reset to zero, losing 3000 miles. I've recently seen another video regarding Classic 350s with minor fueling issues at 40-50mph in top gear. Apparently, caused by too much grease around the relays. At least all these niggles seem to be easily fixed. Get well soon.
Thanks Paul,
slowly feeling better, just suffering with fatigue now, which seems to be fairly normal and lasts for a week or two if you're lucky !
Trying to take things slowly for now and hoping that will help me to get back to normal asap.
Yes, I can imagine it's annoying having your mileage zeroed like that. Typically, the day after making this video, the dealer called to say that my replacement speedo had finally arrived ! Like you, I'm not keen on losing my original mileage, so will not be fitting it unless mine starts playing up again. I left it out in the sun yesterday, trying to provoke it into misbehaving and IT DIDN'T, so maybe these connectors are the problem and just need a proper clean and lube ?
I'd heard of the relay issues caused by the shipping grease and fully expected this speedo connector to be covered in the stuff, to be honest, but it wasn't ! It must be the only electrical connection on the whole bike without any grease on it 😂🤔
If my speedo plays up again I will of course let you all know that this isn't a permanent fix and then like you, I'll probably get the new one fitted , spray it and just hope for the best !
Cheers Paul,
ER
You and Warro saved the day. I had the same problem and it just needed a little cleaning and went right back to zero. Thank you!!
You’re welcome Busywave, that’s why we do this !
I can report that since I did this, the problem has not returned, so the fix has lasted 8 months so far 👍
Delighted to hear that it worked for you too Busywave 🙂
Cheers and thanks for leaving your feedback 👍
ER.
@@economicalrides Hi ER, I thought I’d give you an update. My speedometer worked like a charm but 2 days later my instrument cluster, indicator lights and taillight failed. Sure enough the 10 amp fuse blew. I went in and gave it another cleaning with contact cleaner and let it dry but that fuse keeps blowing. I didn’t see any signs of a short and it might have nothing to do with the initial speedometer problem. Taking it to the RE dealer today and thankfully they are very close. On a happier note. So glad I have my Meteor as a second bike😎
@@Busywave Thanks for the update and sorry to hear about that Busywave. Perhaps you do indeed have a more major problem inside the speedo connector than most and now it has decided to start frying fuses rather than to continue working. Hopefully your dealer will get it sorted quickly for you.
If they have to change the speedo, nag them that you don't want your mileage zeroed and hopefully they will ask RE how to restore your original mileage to the new speedo. I am CONVINCED that it is possible but it's simply that the dealers do not know this and can't be bothered to find out how to do it. I think a speedo with less than 50km or 10km or whatever on it CAN BE PROGRAMMED using their plug in thingy ( technical term ). Once the speedo has more than a few miles on it, of course that option becomes unavailable to prevent odometer tampering. But I am CONVINCED that a new speedo can be programmed to start counting from the original mileage in the software of their programming, diagnostic tool ! So before you just accept that you will lose your original mileage, really badger the dealer that you don't want that ( I'm assuming that you don't - if you DO, then just ignore me :P ) and insist that they try to find out if your original mileage can be restored to a new speedo. I am sure that it can be, but only up until the speedo has a few km on it, after that they get locked out.
Anyway, good luck and as you say, you have a lovely second bike to enjoy whenever the weather is compatible, so at least your fun doesn't need to stop, whilst they are sorting out your Classic for you.
Take care, good luck and thanks for the update Busywave 👍🏻
ER
@@economicalrides My Speedometer wasn’t stuck and landed on zero before the fuse blew so hoping that your fix did work after all and I knocked something loose. I failed to unplug the headlight and it briefly hung by its wire so maybe something got jostled doing that causing a short. It’s at the shop now and RE dealership is outstanding with service and are like a family. So very fortunate to have them so close. I’ll still keep you updated on whether or not the speedo was the problem.
@@Busywave Thanks Busywave,
yes, please let me know what the problem was, it’s all good for the knowledge base and could be of help to others in the future.
I hope they get to the bottom of it quickly for you🤞
Cheers 👍
ER
Thanks for the tip....it worked for me. I had just fixed the loosened screw problems common on the himalayan 411 and thought I hadn't put the needle on securely. I was about to remove the cluster. Glad I watched this...looks like the main plug had worked itself out a bit....THANK YOU!.
Hi there and thanks for leaving a comment to let me know. I'm glad this video helped you.
Yes, before doing any major surgery on modern cars and bikes demonstrating "gremlins" I would always look at the biggest connector nearest to the affected area ! These microelectronics are extremely sensitive to changes in current, so a bit of dirt or some moisture turned into mild corrosion can create all sorts of weird symptoms. Taking apart, cleaning and drying the connector and firmly putting it back together again quite often helps, either temporarily or as in my case here, permanently ( never needed to do it again ! ).
I'd certainly always do that before giving up and letting the dealer replace all sorts of parts unnecessarily, only for the problem to come back again later because they never bothered to check and clean the connector.
In general RE put the connector for the dash in the headlight, so it's always a good place to start looking for trouble and is generally very easily accessible.
Thanks again and take care,
ER.
It's always a relief when you have a fiddle with connections and suddenly... Success! Odd that the Meteor seems unaffected by this problem - but I'm pleased it is!
Hi LE,
yes, WD-40 and a hammer. It's all we need !
Like SkysaxonDragonslayer said, this is taking RE's tradition too far. It's like they're still using Lucas for their electronics and the unions have built them to go out on strike occasionally 😂
Hopefully the fix is permanent. The next day, of course, my new speedo arrived (!!!!!!) but I'm not going to get it fitted just yet. I want to see how my original holds up now that I've "fixed" it 😜
Take care LE, love from the two of us,
Garry & Ruby
Excellent. My ‘22 does this occasionally,only 450 miles, just bought it last month-I will definitely do this, I think it’s probably the same issue.
Thanks for the video:)
Hi Silas,
there is another issue to check for with these speedos. On some units the gauge with the speed markings can start to lift off the faceplate.
When this happens, the needle scratches across that part of the faceplate, which you should be able to hear. Eventually, when the gauge has lifted up far enough, it stops the needle from moving freely during the calibration sweep, causing the same effect..
So have a listen when the speedo does its calibration sweep to make sure that the needle is not being dragged across a lifting speed gauge.
But the most common cause seems to be condensation causing slight corrosion in the connector. The speedo seems to be very sensitive to changes in conductivity across the connector pins. So the connector needs to be really clean and dry for it to work properly.
The connector is quite tight to take apart, I almost gave up. But persevere and wiggle and pull and it should come apart eventually, once you've lifted the red tab.
Good luck. This fix was still working for me six months later, so seems to last a fair while if done right. A better idea than getting a replacement speedo and losing your original mileage, anyway !
Cheers Silas, glad to have been of service !
ER.
Mine just failed! 2023 and about 1900km. Pulled the connector apart and sprayed it down with contact cleaner. Works now! Thanks for the tutorial!
Hi Mike,
glad to hear that it worked for you too !
My speedo was still working fine six months later, when I traded the Classic 350 in.
The fix may or may not be permanent, but it certainly seems to last for quite a while and is easily repeated if necessary. I think condensation can build on the connector pins and the speedo unit itself seems to be very sensitive to minute changes in conductivity. If the pins are not 100% clean and dry, weird stuff seems to happen !
Good luck with yours and thanks for letting me know that it worked for you too. Quite a few people seem to have had a similar experience so far !
Cheers Mike,
Garry
Thanks for the info. Fixed mine right up. If that corrects the problem, it show the problem is not in the speedo but the connector.
Hi Chuck, glad it worked for you too.
This fix lasted for six months and then I sold the bike. The speedo was still working correctly when I sold it, so the fix certainly lasts a fair while and of course, can be repeated if necessary.
In our cases, I agree that the connector is the problem. I think that the speedo is very sensitive to variations in resistance across the connector. I think that sometimes, maybe when you ride in hot humid weather and then the bike cools down, condensation can form inside the connector. That affects the conductivity across the pins and that results in weird speedo behaviour.
If the pins in the connector are clean and dry, everything seems to go back to working normally.
Other people have had a different issue, whereby the faceplate of the speedo starts lifting up. You can then hear the needle scratching across it and eventually the faceplate rises up enough to physically stop the needle from making the full calibration sweep.
So RE certainly had at least two different issues to deal with, with these speedos, possibly there are more.
The part number of the speedos they are issuing these days is slightly different, so it appears that they have a new revision of this speedo. Who knows which, if any, problems it addresses ? Time will tell.
But certainly fixing the speedo yourself is the better option because losing your original mileage count would be extremely annoying and supposedly when the dealer swaps out the speedo, he has no option to restore the original mileage ( which I find hard to believe but that's what they seem to be saying to their customers ).
I hope your current fix lasts as well as it did for me Chuck.
Cheers Chuck,
Garry
Hi ER🤠Good to see you back😃it was one easy fix ,well done ER👍Best wishes to you and Ruby. Best regards K.E.B.🇳🇴
Thanks as always K.E.B. !
Yes, definitely not over the hill yet, I still have a cough and get tired extremely easily but I should hopefully be back to normal within a week or two. I at least feel ok to ride now, so am hoping to be back out on the bike on Friday ( Classic 350 this time ). Fingers crossed 🤞
Ruby says hi ! ❤️🐕
Cheers K.E.B. 🥃🥃
ER
Thank you so much for uploading this. I just went for a ride and my speedometer suddenly had this. Your video saved me buddy!
Great to hear that it worked for you too mate ! 👍🏻
Six months after doing this, the "fix" was still working for me. Then I traded the Classic in for the Himalayan. You might need to repeat as the WD40 begins to break down but if so, it's easily done if necessary.
I hope the fix holds for a good while yet mate. Good luck and thanks for letting me know !
Sure as heck beats getting the dealer to fit a new speedo and you then losing all of your original mileage !
Garry
Well done ER & a big thank you to warro
Thanks John,
the "fix" is holding up so far. I even left the bike in the sun deliberately to try to provoke the fault but it hasn't reoccured yet 🤞
I'd be surprised if it's a permanent fix, because it doesn't seem to make much sense, but stranger things happen, I suppose !
Cheers John,
ER
I am glad it is fixed and so soon.
Yes. Warro has also been informed 😉
Now let’s see if it is a permanent fix 👍
Thanks my friend 🙂
ER
This is exactly the problem. I'll try a clean if it happens again.
However, I noticed on that video that the speed was indicating about 28mph when we first see the speedometer and it went past the maximum when turned to the On position. After the ignition was turned on/off, it went down to approximately 20mph.
That's also what I experienced. As I repeated the on/off procedure, the speedometer reduced by a few mph each time until it correctly calibrated at 0/max.
Hi Pete,
yes, that worked for me the first time too.
That lasted for about a month.
The next time it got stuck, no amount of switching on and off fixed it. It kept returning to 25-35 kph but never lower. At that point the dealer had ordered me a replacement speedo but because I didn't want to lose my odometer reading, I decided to give this a go.
As you can see here, it worked immediately.
And the problem hasn't reoccurred in the eight months since either ! I told the dealer to send the replacement speedo back 😇
Cheers Pete, I thoroughly recommend trying this, should the problem reoccur. It can also be repeated every six months if needs be ( WD-40 loses its effect over time ) and is pretty easy to do, once you get the hang of opening the connector, which can be tricky the first time you try it.
Cheers Pete and good luck with your own speedo !
ER.
Glad that worked!
Thanks Dan,
me too. Tried to provoke the speedo into misbehaving by leaving it out in the sun all afternoon but it calibrated correctly once again.
Oh and the next day my dealer called to say that the new speedo had arrived 🤬
Cheers Dan,
ER
It works at my speedo, Top. Good work thanks. Best greetings from Germany.
Great news ! Glad it worked for you too ! So far it seems to be working for everybody who has tried it 👍
The fix was permanent for me but it can be repeated once per year or whenever, if required 🙂
Thanks for letting me know Pit 👍
Cheers buddy,
ER
Thanks so much!
You're welcome None One, hope it helps !
Cheers 👍🏻
ER
It Can't be that easy. My new bike has been in the shop for 6 weeks with this sticky speedo problem. Wish Id seen this 6 weeks ago. Great Vid.
Hi Dern,
sorry to hear that, what a joke !
Well, all I can say is that, as you can see here, the speedo went from not working to working, just by doing what I did. There was no clever editing involved because I'm not that clever. Doing this actually fixed it for me on the spot, as can be seen in this video. At the time, I had no idea how permanent this "fix" was going to be but can now report that in the more than five months which have passed since I made this video, the problem has not reappeared ! So it is at least "pretty permanent" and if it ever starts playing up again, I will just repeat the process and would expect it to be ok again for another fair while.
If your dealer is struggling to get to the bottom of the issue, feel free to send them the link to this video.
I can only report on what I've experienced and in my case, doing this definitely solved the issue ( so far ! ).
It has to be worth a go, just to get you back out on the road quicker !
Cheers Dern, I hope you get your bike back soon ! Please let me know how you get on, it's all good information for the community Classic knowledge base !
ER
Nice one Gary! glad you're on the mend, hope the "fix" did the trick for you, interesting that it immediately went down to zero when you turned the ignition on, would be interesting to know exactly how they work. Since my new one's been fitted, a 5 digit number briefly appears when I turn on the key, before the trip or clock info comes on, I don't think this happened with the original one, though perhaps I just didn't notice it. Interesting that Paul, commenting below , just like mine , didn't have the original odo reading reset . Enjoy that lovely Spanish sunshine, best wishes...Pete
Hi Pete,
yes, the cold-like symptoms are more or less gone but the fatigue and sweats remain. I need to try to avoid overdoing things for another couple of weeks I reckon. But I can probably ride at a leisurely pace again now, at least.
I think that’s the ECU software version which pops up on the display initially. Mine has always done it, it’s normal. The Meteor too. You must have just not noticed it before ? 🤷♂️
If this fix turns out to be permanent ( or even if it has to be repeated annually or whenever ) it would suggest that RE is currently wasting a lot of money swapping speedos. Maybe they should watch this video and do a bit more analysis of the problem 😉
The fact that a lot of people are on their third or fourth new speedo could support the theory that the connectors are the problem 🤔
We shall see but I’m surprisingly confident that this will be an acceptable occasional fix. My new speedo has just arrived ( typical ! ) but now I’m determined to give my original one a bit longer to prove itself !
Cheers Pete 🥃
Garry & Ruby
well done ER 👍
Thanks AR,
you know how reluctant I am to start spattering but in this case I felt it necessary.
Typically, the day after this, the dealer informed me that my new speedo has arrived 🤬 You couldn't make it up. I've been waiting for about three months and then the next day it turned up !
Anyway, will be keeping this one for a while to see how it holds up !
Cheers AR,
ER
Hi Garry good to see you back . spreading tips and ideas is what is needed. Last week after a lot of thought I decided that as my feet are getting slowly worse ,the neuropathy that is ,that my lovely Super Nova must go. I now need to look down to position my left foot to change gear. not ideal ,its called muscle memory they say. the bike was perfect and had only covered 520 miles in 11 months. so now its twist and go from now on . The bike is at Sutton Motorcycles Tamworth if any U K readers want to take a look . I had a Honda SH Mode scooter to replace it ,didnt want cash particularly. I will always support your channel,comment and recommend the Meteor 350. best wishes to you and Ruby .
Oh, sorry to hear that John, but if a bike no longer works for you, it makes sense to sell it !
Yes, please do keep in touch, I’m always interested to hear what you are up to, so please watch and comment away. Who knows ? I might end up with a twist and go on the channel myself, I’m not averse to them and they are economical rides 😉
If all goes to plan, we should have a new bike on the channel every year, so I might stumble across something else which is of interest to you in the future, who knows, you do like collecting bikes 😛
I hope that whoever buys your Meteor takes as much care of it as you did, maybe somebody who watches this channel might buy it, that would be brilliant, you could find out how they are getting on with it !
Thanks for everything John and I’m really glad that you are planning on sticking around !
Much love to you and your family from Spain,
Garry & Ruby 👍
@@economicalrides thanks Garry.I am 74 in March so have had a fair innings ,Linda is at the moment suffering a tummy bug , but since last Sunday we have been out on our bikes each day apart from today. keep safe.
@@johnbellamy6449 Too true John and step-throughs are still a ton of fun 🙂 I hope Linda gets well soon and the pair of you can get back to tearing up the streets on your scooters 🛵
All the best wishes from Ruby and me to you both !
Garry & Ruby
@@economicalrides thanks.
Many thanks garry 👍 ile let you no cheers my friend !
Yes, please do. So far 100% success rate with this fix. I know of a handful of viewers who have tried it and it helped all of them so far 👍🤞
Cheers Bill, good luck !
Garry
Well done, El Otro/Warro! Another very useful video for new 350 owners.
PS. Hope you’re back on your feet and wheels soon.
Thanks SB,
I was somewhat surprised when it worked and typically the next day my replacement speedo arrived at the dealership ( after waiting 3 months ) ! I won’t be going in to get it swapped though, I want to give this one another crack first !
Still, nice to know it’s there, should this one start playing up again 👍
Cheers SB 🥃🥃
Love El Otro y Rubita bonita ❤️🐕
@@Saddlebags73 Actually I am planning to go out filming tomorrow should work allow. I’m still a bit weak and lack energy but riding the Classic isn’t really stressful, so I think I can risk it 👍 Riding bikes is medicinal, I’m sure ! 🤔
Cheers SB 👍
El Otro
Could be problem solved 🤞🏼
Yes, riding is medicinal and therapeutic. It fixed everything 🙂
Much love El Otro y Rubita 👋🏼
@@Saddlebags73 OK. So I’m riding tomorrow on SB’s advice ! I’ll take that. Can you send me a note to show my employer ? 😂😂😂
No, it’s ok, as my employer I’m cool with me having tomorrow off 😛
Cheers SB, have a medicinal one 🥃, I’m looking forward to getting reacquainted with the GoPro and the Classic 350 🥳
El Otro y Rubita
Good to know. Glad to hear you're coming around. Good ol Warro. Knows his stuff. Hi to Ruby
Hi Lance,
yep, and typically, the next day the dealer told me that my new speedo had arrived 😂😂😂
Won't be getting it fitted, I want to give my old one another shot !
Still feeling wobbly and weak at the moment but at least most of the symptoms have gone. 🤞 I can take the Classic out at the weekend and give that speedo a proper workout !
Cheers Lance and Ruby sends love to her Canadian boyfriend ! ❤️🐕
ER
@@economicalrides Murphys law lol. I went through the same as you. Symptoms just let up after 2 months. Still a little foggy. Leo sends his luv and wonders if Ruby has an English or Spanish accent...
@@lancerbiker5263 Bizarrely, even though she was born here, Ruby speaks perfect English and German, probably because I tend to jump between one language and the other. She ignores Spanish completely, so safe to assume that she probably has an Anglo/German accent 😂
Cheers Lance and Leo 🥃
ER & Ruby
Hi ER. Glad you are finding some good stuff on Worro's channel. He has some excellent content.
My personal debate on which (of now 3) Enfields to get, is over.
I visited a small dealer in Western Germany yesterday and got to sit on every model available. Only the Meteor had the low seat height I was looking for, so I took one for a test ride. I fell in love with it in 200m.
So bought a yellow Fireball.
Expect to see some other bods mods soon.
Awesome Tim !
I think you chose the right bike ! The Meteor is adorable, I understand how it won you over and just so easy to live with. Will your one still have the Tripper pod as standard ?
These days the Tripper is finally worth having but RE had supply issues and were going to stop fitting it as standard on Meteors and Himalayans. I’d recommend the Tripper now, even though I wouldn’t have done so previously !
The yellow Fireball is definitely the sexiest one off the peg, excellent choice ! Mine always attracts a lot of attention 🤗
I look forward to your mods, I desperately need more bikes for Other Bods’ Mods, something I plan to mention in my next video !
Cheers Tim and congratulations on your new bike 🥃🥃
ER
@@economicalrides yes it was a showroom bike with the tripper fitted.
Really enjoyed the test ride. Despite hearing negative comments about the brakes, I found the brakes excellent. The comfort superb and didn't even notice the slightly forward footrest.
My first mod will be a rack and panniers system modeled around a set of BMW F650 expanding panniers.
Will keep you informed.
@@timsatch9198 Great stuff Tim. The Tripper is a nice addition these days, with the new app. Yes, please do share you mods and experiences with us all, that would be great👍
Such a cool bike. You will almost certainly never want to sell it. Buddy is part of the family to me, he’s more than just a motorcycle and I’m sure yours will be too ! The Meteor just has something so endearing about it, it’s hard to define but you just feel it !
Enjoy your evening, excited for you 👍
Cheers 🥃🥃
ER
good Evening ER hope you are feeling better 😃😀🙂
Hi AR,
yes, just struggling with fatigue now, need to be careful for a couple of weeks I think !
Cheers 🙂
ER
Mine just failed at 3,300 miles. Removed speedometer as I found the connector was too tight to separate by hand. Pulled red tab, then used flat blade screwdriver to disconnect. Used contact cleaner on both the connector and mating socket. I actually added an electrical contact oxidation prevention grease to the speedometer contact pins. Reconnected, reassembled. No issues. Will test long term. Electrical contact grease used is called NO-OX-ID “A Special” made by Sanchem Inc. The conductive formulation was specifically developed to prevent contact rust and corrosion. Intended for microelectronics and others. Appreciate reading all the feedback. Would rather service myself and see if I can fix rather than deal with warranty repair and new gauge at zero miles.
Well done Daniel, glad it worked for you too !
The fix lasted for six months and then I sold the bike with the speedo still working perfectly. It's possible that I may have had to repeat it eventually but I'll never know now.
But I think your grease is probably a good idea.
I think the speedo is very sensitive to variations in current across the connector pins. In hot weather and as the bike cools down again, I think that it's likely that condensation can form within the connector, causing mild corrosion on the pins. That seems to be enough to make the speedo freak out. I think keeping the connector pins clean and dry is critical with these speedos, so your special grease should help with that.
Good luck with yours Daniel 👍🏻
ER.
Update: went for a long ride today and the issue came back. Same 20mph offset, but I realized something important. It found this issue only occurs when I select the menu to check miles or time while the bike is running. It loses its mind after this. If I leave the menu alone… no issues. There seems to be a CPU logic issue.
@@DanielBz1 Well, that wasn't the issue in my case, I always had the display in ODO mode and it still happened to me.
But an interesting finding, nonetheless Daniel ! Maybe try removing the grease and just trying clean and dry contacts for a while ?
Good luck,
ER.
Yes this is interesting. I found the same. When I use the trip odometer specifically, and e.g. reset it with the engine running, the Speedo loses track while riding soon thereafter. After resetting (6 ignition cycles) with only the total miles showing on the LCD… the error does not occur. Must be a trip odometer and menu access related software bug.
Good morning. Mine started doing this at 1400km. I couldn't get the plug out to clean it. It seems to have some kind of glue. But just shaking the plug and pushing it to the bottom the speedometer returned to normal, which deprives that it is really bad contact in the plug. Probably motivated by the glue they put there in the assembly.
Thank you for the useful video you created. Compliments.
Hi Jorge. Yes, I'm sure the issue is in the connector itself rather than the speedo unit !
I'm glad you got it working again for now.
The connector should come apart but it is a bit of a struggle the first time 👍🏻
Thanks for letting me know that my video helped, that's great to know !
Cheers Jorge,
Garry
Thank you...
Hi Joseph,
glad you found the video useful.
I subsequently sold the Classic but this repair held until I sold the bike, so ten months or so. The problem didn't reoccur in that time. I'm not sure if it is a permanent fix but if not, it's easily repeated whenever required. It was certainly less faff than doing a three hour round trip to the dealer to get a replacement speedo AND lose the odometer mileage I had done with the bike.
Certainly worth a try, before going down the warranty replacement route !
Cheers Joseph,
Garry
Hellooo ER 😁 I'm way behind with watching your videos, and to my shame, just realised I didn't have the notification bell dinged! 😔
Hope you're on the mend anyways. Ruby is looking in fine fettle 😊
I look forward to seeing if your speedo behaves. Mine just stopped sticking, back in July I think, and hasn't stuck again since. I didn't have to take it apart or anything. Very weird but 🤞that it carries on that way. 2300 miles on the clock now 😁
Take care now ER and hope you feel well enough for a ride soonest.
Thanks DoomNedwob,
thanks for hitting the dingy thingy too, I appreciate it, it all helps me to get noticed by the TH-cam robots 🤣
Nurse Ruby is being excellent, taking great care of me and only needs paying in economy frankfurters, so I can just about afford her excellent medical care !
I definitely think there is an issue with the speedo connector rather than the speedo itself. In this video a speedo which was clearly defective suddenly works again after being disconnected, having the contacts cleaned and being reconnected. I think RE are replacing speedos at great cost which may not even be necessary. This is backed up by people saying that they are already on their third or fourth speedo. Maybe the connectors are just dirty or slightly corroded when fitted and they just need a proper clean out to work reliably. Who knows ? It's certainly interesting and credit to Warro for trying this out !
The day after making this video, my dealer told me that my new speedo had finally arrived ! Of course ! 🤬
They can keep it for now, I want to test mine further !
Cheers DoomNedwob, glad you won't be missing any more of my awesome videos 🤗 😜
Hoping to ride at the weekend if I start to feel less wobbly on my feet !
Cheers buddy,
ER.
@@economicalrides I'm glad Ruby is looking after you 😊
The speedo thing is a strange one. I'm glad I didn't bother replacing mine now. After sticking a few times in some 20°+ weather, but then after our, distant memory, heatwave at 32+°, it hasn't stuck since! I was always slightly doubtful about the heat issue, thinking, if the plastic had warped, it could have stuck at any speed, but it always seemed to be exactly at a 10mph interval. Then on start up would sweep up to 10mph past 100 or whatever it is and back, still very smoothly, so thought maybe it was an electronic thing instead. It will be interesting to see if cleaning the contacts sorts it permanently for you. Perhaps mine had an intermittent dodgy connection and it vibrated itself into the right place, who knows, but it's not let me down for months 😁
Anyhoo, enjoy your ride when your legs will allow. Take care out there 😊
@@DoomNedwob Thanks DoomNedwob 🙂
Yes, mine fixed itself the first couple of times, it was sufficient just to leave it in the garage overnight to cool down and the next time I went out, it would calibrate correctly.
This time I parked it showing 20 at a standstill before I left for Germany and fully expected it to calibrate to zero nearly four weeks later, the next time I tried it. I was very surprised that it remained stuck at 20 after all that time, it was the first time it had ever done that ! Fortunately in the meantime I had seem Warro's video and wanted to make people aware of it via my channel, so decided to do the thing to my bike, really not really expecting it to work !
If it keeps on working I would recommend cleaning and lubing that connector as preventative maintenance, so even for the folks who have yet to have the problem. Maybe these connectors are not perfectly clean or corrosion-free from the factory or something.
But let's wait and see if the fix appears to be permanent first. If not, at least my replacement speedo has finally arrived at my dealer's shop.
Cheers 🥃 ( medicinal of course ! )
ER 😜
@@economicalrides We shall wait and see indeed, cheers ER 🍺😁
Thanks for your valuable info regarding your Speedo, I will make a note to refer to your video should I have a problem. Thanks to Warro too, I've seen his video. Regarding the white gung on relays, I checked mine on my new RE 350 Classic red/chrome (named Ruby!!) and found all four of them were drowning in the white stuff. Needless to say I thoroughly cleaned them to reduce any issues others seem to be having. Have you looked at yours yet?? I was shocked! Glad you are recovering from the dreaded COVID, hope you will be strong enough soon to be back on your bikes. Keep safe, great videos! 👍
Hi Peter and thank you very much for your kind comments !
Actually I did think about checking the other connectors but while the bike is under warranty I am adopting a bit of a "If it ain't broke don't fix it !" strategy. Unfortunately the speedo was broke, I was left facing an indefinite wait for a warranty replacement, so I decided to risk "fixing it" 😂
Fortunately I managed not to break anything and the speedo is currently still working fine, even after I deliberately left it out in the sun to see what would happen !
It's cool that your Classic is called Ruby, yours is the second one I've heard of to be given that name. Ruby says "It IS the bestest name ever after all ! Now where's me sossidge ?". ❤🐕
Yes, I'm feeling a lot better and my next riding video is already online since Tuesday 🤗
I think I am still in the phase where I need to take things a bit easy for a couple of weeks. I don't feel 100% yet and still have a bit of a cough. But I'm well enough to work, ride and make videos, so that's the main thing !
Take care Peter, happy to have you here on my channel, I really appreciate each and every one of my viewers and it's great getting to know you all !
Thank you and cheers,
ER
Thanks for your reply. I understand the warranty worries. I won't do any of my own servicing while under warranty. I might be wrong but I may be that other person who has a bike called Ruby. I messaged you once before, again with a comment that mine was called Ruby. I think you said it would have been a contender name for your bike had you not got a dog called Ruby! Best wishes Pete
@@peterwillis4239 Yes I remember that conversation Peter. No, I do have another viewer with a Halcyon Black and Red Classic, which he has also called Ruby.
Dino MALTA in the comments to my latest video. So that's definitely two metal Rubys now ( possibly more that I don't yet know about ) and one fluffy one 🙂
👍🏻🐕
ER
👍😂🤣 The more the merrier! I wish I had your Spanish roads and lower traffic! Here in the West Midlands, I'm for ever being chased down by four wheeled lunatics! Not good while running the bike in!!
@@peterwillis4239 I can well imagine ! That's the last thing you need when you are trying to run a bike in. I remember as a kid, quite often you'd see a car with a "Running in" sign written on a piece of cardboard, attached to the rear of the car.
I did consider making one of those for myself and hanging it around my neck during the running in phase.
Strange how you don't see that anymore.
I suppose a) nobody bothers running engines in these days and b) don't feel obliged to let people know even if they are.
So make a "Running in, please pass" sign Peter. That would be classically old school, in keeping with the bike itself 😂
Welcome back RE. hope you are alright 😀
Hi William,
thanks, slowly getting there. Still struggling with fatigue so taking it easy for the next couple of weeks !
The day after making this video, the dealer informed me that after three months of waiting, my new speedo had arrived 🤬
Won't be getting it fitted for a bit though, I want to see how this one holds up now that I've "fixed" it 😜
Cheers William,
ER
@@economicalrides Yeah let the old one sit. it's great info for others. on how long the fix can stay 😀 Winter is coming so take it easy any way Cheers 😀
@@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie Thanks William, will do !
Take care yourself my friend 👍
Cheers 🥃
ER
Good work there, semi simple fix. All bikes have their quirks. Time will tell but perhaps its a rinse repeat job.
Yes. If it became an annual maintenance job it wouldn't be the end of the world, it's easy to do.
Preferable to having four new speedos fitted, losing your mileage every time and still having issues, as some have done.
I would go so far as to say that this is preventative maintenance. Even people who have had no issues should clean and lube this connector. I think RE are replacing speedos at great expense unnecessarily. This video seems to show that the issue is with the connection.
It's all good at the mo and if it's not a permanent fix, I will let the world know. For now at least both Warro and I have done it and are in a position to test it further and report back, but all good so far 👍🏻
Cheers Exmouth 😜
ER
Why this works, I don't know. But, it definitely works. Thanks! Anyone on here know how the repair holds up? I'm wondering if I will need to do it again later.
Hi ! Glad it worked for you too 👍
I have a theory that when it is hot enough and the air is humid enough, condensation can possibly build up in the connector. Once it dries out, there is mild oxidation which affects the conductivity through the connector. The speedo itself seems to be very sensitive to changes in conductivity within the connector. Cleaning the contacts solves the problem and WD40 prevents the condensation from building up again. WD40 will lose its effect eventually, so you might have to repeat the process at some point. But it is easily done and preferable to getting a replacement speedo and losing your total mileage.
I sold my Classic six months after doing this and the speedo was still working fine when I sold it. So the “fix” certainly seems to last quite a long time 👍
I did tell my dealer to do this before replacing speedos on other customers’ bikes but from what I hear they are still replacing speedos whenever it happens, for some customers multiple times ! 🤷♂️
Thanks for letting me know that this video helped you, it’s good to have data !
Cheers buddy,
ER
thx!!!
You’re welcome Shadow !
I will report back should my speedo ever start misbehaving again. Might be worth doing this as preventative maintenance, can’t really see any downside and might stop the problem ever occurring 🤔
Cheers Shadow 🥃🥃
ER
It will repeat for sure, faced this issue while we ride in hot sunny Indian day on a regular basis.
Hi Mahesh,
I think the extreme heat causes some kind of change in the speedo connector, maybe oxidisation on the contacts due to humidity in the air or something. If cleaning the connector solves the problem for a while, I will continue to clean the connector because my dealer says that if they change the speedo, they cannot restore the original odometer reading. Which I don't believer but that is what they are saying. And I don't want that, so will continue to "fix" it myself !
Cheers Mahesh,
ER.
Interesting...wondering if just disconnecting the speedo is 'resetting' the gauge? Hoping it doesn't happen here, but at least it seems most get it fixed doing this simple procedure. Thanks for posting it up!
Ride Safe 🙏🏼
Thanks Scott,
possibly, but I also believe that these connectors can be dodgy. It's possible that the contacts were just never properly clean from the factory and that something in there affects the current when the temperature starts to rise. It's an odd one but cleaning and protecting the contacts against future corrosion can never be a bad idea and it was easily done.
If it ever happens again I will disconnect and reconnect the speedo. Then we'll know for sure ! But I have a feeling it may not happen again. I left the bike out in the sun yesterday expecting the speedo to then play up again, but it didn't and I'm sure it would have done previously !
Cheers Scott,
ER
@@economicalrides If it were heat related, I'd have expected it to show here when we were at 110ºf!
Glad yours appears to be OK now. Sucks having a new toy with a problem, but as far as bad things go, this one isn't too bad!
Ride Safe 🙏🏼
@@scottboettcher Well it gets equally hot here in the summer and it only played up when the bike had been parked in the sun for an hour or so. Ambient heat didn’t seem to be the problem, just being stood in direct sunlight for a certain length of time. It was certainly weird.
But now it had been stuck for over four weeks in the garage and this time it didn’t repair itself once it had cooled down, like the last two times. Hopefully this fix is permanent or if not, at least repeatable whenever required. I could live with having to do this once per year, if it means that I can keep the original speedo 🙂
We’ll see, I will definitely let folks know should the problem reoccur.
Cheers Scott, stay safe 🥃
ER
@@economicalrides I have a little gel pad that I flop over the Speedo when 0arked if I'm not able to get the bike in the shade and this seems to work 👍. I will update in later comments 👍
@@BobfmBali OK. That's great. I was thinking of taking a black rag and an elastic band and attaching that every time I stop but then I decided that half the time I'd forget to put it on anyway, so not really worth carrying it about with me 😂
Do let me know how your speedo behaves once you've cleaned and protected the contacts. So far Warro and I have had no issues since. The more people we have testing this fix, the better !
Cheers Hqmpest,
ER
Hello again. Did you apply thread glue to the headlight closing screws? Thanks.
No, I just put them straight back in. No problem 👍
Cheers 🍺🍺
ER
Hallo ER, das ist ja super dass es funktioniert hat. 👍
Wenn das Problem wieder kommt, kannst du auch nach dem Reinigen etwas Batteriepolfett in die Löcher vom Stecker drücken. das hält Feuchtigkeit und Schmutz fern und schützt vor Korrosion.
Ich nehme dazu immer das Batteriepolfett von Bosch, die kleine Tube ist zwar nicht günstig aber man braucht auch nicht viel davon.
Meine Tube ist nach 20 Jahren immer noch halb voll.
Gruß Stephan
Super, danke Stephan 👍
WD 40 kombiniert auch reinigen, schmieren und vor Korrosion schützen und das hatte ich zufällig schon hier, aber gut zu wissen.
WD 40 reicht wahrscheinlich auch weil der Stecker eigentlich NICHT im Dreck und Wetter steht. Fett hält natürlich besser wenn die Stelle der Witterung ausgesetzt ist, aber das ist hier wirklich nicht der Fall. Wir werden es erleben aber dieser einfache Trick scheint was gebracht zu haben !
Cheers Stephan 🥃🥃 und schönes Wochenende 👍
ER
ER, du must aber daran denken dass sich WD40 mit der Zeit verflüchtigt, Batteriepolfett braucht normaler weise nur einmal angewendet werden und hält dann die nächsten 20 Jahre. Da ich in meinem Leben schon viel Fiat gefahren habe und aktuell auch wieder zwei besitze kenne ich die Tücken mit korrodierten Steckern nur zu gut. 😂
Cheers ER 🥃
Stephan
@@stephanl.4857 Ja, ich kannte das bisher nicht aber klingt auf jeden Fall wie eine gute langfristige Option 👍
Danke Stephan, werde ich mir merken 👍🙂
Cheers,
ER
Hola , re speedo did it last ? Mine did it last summer intermittently , bahaved itself over winter now the suns out its doing it again cheers bill uk
Hi Bill,
I just did this fix once and the speedo was still working fine over eight months later when I traded the bike in. I am sure that if it had happened again, just repeating this process would have fixed it for another fair while. But I only did it the once and it was still working fine at the end. Hope this helps. It's easy enough to do, once you've figured out how the connector comes apart 🤔
Cheers Bill,
Garry
SOUNDS GREAT GREAT GREAT. ( AWESOME )
The LAST few seconds, WHAT have you 'Slipped on'???
WHAT Muffler have you installed PLEASE??
THANK YOU and THANK YOU for your video.
MOST Helpful.
Regards.
Hi Terry, ‘slipped on’ ? Not sure what you mean 🤷♂️
The exhaust on my bike is standard, in fact, the whole bike is standard, I just removed the rear seat.
Cheers Terry and good luck with your own speedo !
ER
@@economicalrides
Sorry, I did assume you installed a 'Slip-on muffler' after I heard That exhaust note.
Regards.
@@tpv59 No problem.
It's bone stock, it even has the standard fit dodgy speedo 😂
Cheers Terry, let me know if the fix works for you, I'm trying to collect some data on it !
ER
Curious, my current view is that that the engineering is sound but production to meet demand mean that there are some short cuts. I’ve bought a Classic and an Interceptor this year. Both have had a couple of loose spokes in both wheels. Generally finish is good but regular cleaning and protective coatings etc….mind you….is that any different to other bikes?
I definitely think that the production side has been under a lot of pressure for the past couple of years at least. RE are selling A LOT of bikes and have also had a pretty hectic release schedule for new models. It wouldn't surprise me to see the odd error creeping in although I think most of the issues stem from suppliers not being able to maintain the quality which RE agreed to buy in. I think RE have chopped and changed suppliers for various components too, in an attempt just to get the parts needed by the production side, and of course you are introducing massive variables if you start doing that. It is always a risk to deviate from your proven suppliers.
Fortunately so far, the problems have been quite minor and probably no worse than many other brands. Parts supply is a nightmare globally at the moment and RE and other manufacturers may have been forced to buy in the odd part which isn't quite up to spec, just to get the bikes out of the door. What they can't start doing is delivering bikes with poorly assembled engines and gearboxes. That's the sort of thing to ruin a reputation. On that side of things we don't seem to be hearing of any issues, which is good, obviously.
It's a tough time for manufacturers at the moment. Considering their output I'd say that RE are doing pretty well in keeping on top of things, overall.
Cheers Pete ( I'll check the spokes on my Classic ! )
ER
It looks as though it was just a matter of disconnecting and reconnecting. Also, the needle did go from above 20 to 20 or a little below after the first on and off. If turning the ignition on and off a few times may have done it maybe. Worth the electrical chemical. Doesnt hurt.
Hi,
turning it off and on 10 times fixed it THE FIRST TIME it happened. This was the second time and it just would not return to zero. Cleaning the connector is the thing that helps, since I did this, no reoccurrence in eight months.
Some people have had a new speedo fitted multiple times and the problem returns very quickly. This would suggest that it is not the speedos themselves that are the problem, a new speedo on the same old connector, quickly starts playing up again. I really believe that the connector needs to be perfectly clean and have perfect contact for these speedos to work correctly.
It's very easy to clean both sides of the connector with contact cleaner and I would recommend that to anybody having similar problems.
Cheers
ER
@@economicalrides great! Thanks for the feed back. If there’s been no reoccurrence for eight months it’s a permanent fix and there is nothing wrong with Speedo.( until next time it needs cleaning)
I just rebooted mine last night by the on and off technique. But I will have in handy an electrical parts cleaner. Cheers.
Thanks
@@maiojoserivera786 Definitely worth cleaning the connector next time it happens Maio. Your bike sounds like mine. The first time it happened, switching the ignition on and off a few times fixed it. The next time it just wouldn't return to zero again.
Another tip for you - if you park the bike in direct sunlight for any length of time, put a glove or something over the speedo to keep the sun off it ( fix it with an elastic band or something if it is windy ! ). I have also been doing this since I cleaned the connector and so far the problem has not returned.
Most people seem to feel that the problem starts when the speedo gets too hot, so just keep it in the shade if you can.
Good luck Maio🤞
ER
@@economicalrides thanks. It’s a classic 350 chrome bronze. Thanks for the tip. Will be getting electrical cleaner can soon. Looking forward to new vids
Cheers
@@maiojoserivera786 Cheers Maio 👍
Keep the speedo in the shade and the connector clean and hopefully you can avoid having the speedo replaced and losing your current odometer reading ! That’s why I tried to fix it myself, because I didn’t want a new speedo with 0km on it !
Stay safe and enjoy your Classic !
ER
Great video. I was wondering if you added a little electrical contact grease after you sprayed the contacts with WD40? I’ve had to clean out all the factory gunk from the relays on my Interceptor and added a little grease to prevent corrosion. It must be great living in Spain. My wife and I have an apartment in Murcia and hopefully soon we will be spending a month or two at a time there and luckily there is a Royal Enfield retailer in Murcia City! Happy days👍
Hi Mark,
thanks, glad you found this one useful 👍🏻
No, I was wary of using grease because I suspect that the factory grease may have been causing the issue. I decided that WD-40 would be nice and light and less likely to affect conductivity in the connector pins. I've no idea if that was a good idea or not, I just figured that this way it would be easier to clean the connector and spray it again, should a repeat be necessary.
This "repair" has held for over eight months so far, but I was prepared to repeat it if necessary because it is a ten minute job. Preferable to fitting a new speedo, losing your previous odometer reading and potentially having the problem again anyway.
I've just traded the Classic in for a new Himalayan but the speedo was still working fine when I handed the bike over 👍🏻
I have heard that the shipping grease RE use on electrical connections has caused issues with relays on all kinds of different models and particularly on Himalayans. So if my Himalayan starts acting up, I will definitely open and clean all connectors before losing a whole day taking the bike to the dealership. I believe that the dealers are instructed to remove the shipping grease before delivery but that memo seems to have been ignored ! I think the grease can affect conductivity as its state changes, i.e. as it gets warm on a hot day, it becomes more liquid. That then results in a different level of conductivity through the connector and depending how sensitive the following components are, these slight changes in current could cause weird side effects. It's just my theory, I'm not a scientist or micro-electronics specialist. I would always prefer to have a CLEAN connector and then just try to keep it out of the wet and preferably add some water repellent element like WD-40. Also I don't like getting mucky and grease is mucky stuff 🤗
Yes, I am familiar with Intruder Motorcycles in Murcia, I've been there a couple of times but it is a bit far for me to go there regularly. They tend to have a good selection of RE models on demo but it's a two hour drive each way for me, so a five hour round trip just to test a bike is not really terribly appealing ( particularly with Ruby waiting impatiently for my return ! ).
Whereabouts do you have your apartment if you don't mind me asking ? Mazarron way maybe ?
Cheers Mark, enjoy your Interceptor 👍🏻
ER
Hi. Thanks for your reply. It sounds like you’ve done exactly the right thing especially as it’s still working after 8 months. Why have you sold your Classic 350? Are you doing a bit of light off roading which would be perfect on the Himalayan? We bought a place in Lo Pagan which is on the Mar Menor in the San Pedro Del Pinatar district. We’re only 50 metres from the Mar Menor with the Mediterranean just a five minute drive away. It suits us perfectly and since buying it on a bit of a whim in 2020 and visiting for the first time in 2021 we find ourselves going there more and more as I can work whilst I’m there. Murcia City is 30 to 40 mins away and Cartagena is about 45 minutes away. We are about an hour from Alicante and 30 mins from Murcia International airport which is brilliant as it’s a much smaller, quieter airport. Originally I was thinking of something faster than my Interceptor but in all honesty I’ve realised that it’s quick enough as it will comfortably do 100mph (not that I ever do🤣) and with a free flow DNA air filter, free flow headers and Zard silencers together with YSS suspension it sounds amazing and handles brilliantly. What attracts me to the Classic 350 is the thumper single cylinder engine, the military colours they do and the well documented uplift in overall quality and fit and finish. I’ll be going for the Signals Marsh Grey which strangely is actually green and my preference as it will be a nice contrast to my Interceptor and which won’t involve even more polishing of engine cases and exhausts🤪 The Interceptor’s sweet spot is 50mph to 70mph. Having the Classic 350 for bimbling around the lanes between 40mph and 50mph I think will suit me perfectly. It’s great to have found your page. Happy and safe riding👍
@@markfletcher443 Hi Mark,
if you watch my last video it will all become clear, it's all very recent but yes, since taking both the Meteor and the Classic down a mountain trail about eight months ago I realised how much fun that would be on a bike which didn't make me feel guilty every time I did it. The Meteor and Classic both did well but were filthy afterwards and I always tried to keep them pristine. Since I can't be doing with three bikes at the moment, the Classic had to make way for the Himalayan because I wanted one bike for the roads ( now the Meteor ) and one for the trails ( the new Himalayan ). As much as I liked the Classic, as soon as I discovered the local trails, it did bug me having two road bikes and no bike for the trails. Something had to give !
I can always buy another Classic later on, if my circumstances change again. It was certainly a lovely bike.
RE's black finishes are really easy to clean, so you'll be glad you don't have too much chrome on yours. The Meteor is all blacked out and it comes up like new with zero effort. After two years and a few dusty trails, it still looks brand new. To be honest, my red/chrome Classic was pretty easy to clean too. The only downside with chrome is what the English winter might do to it. If you only ride in the dry, like me, you can hose it off and dry it and it holds up fine.
The black finish does seem to be very durable though and as I said, just rinse off and dry and it looks like new 👍🏻
Yes, Murcia is a lovely little airport. Unfortunately it's no use to me because there are no flights from there that work for me. I always have to fly from Almeria to Madrid and from Madrid you can get anywhere, obviously. Unfortunately the regional airports are really suffering and struggling to get flights, since a lot of the budget airlines went bust !
Good luck with your own Classic and welcome to the channel. I hope you will find my Meteor and Himalayan hijinks entertaining 🙂
Cheers Mark, have a great weekend !
Garry
Hi Garry. Yes, I’ve just seen your latest video. Aaaah it sounds like it was a very tough decision but I think you’ve made the right one based on your motorcycling needs at the moment. I tested the Himalayan and it’s a great, rugged motorcycle that can do just about anything. I know what you mean about having 2 or 3 bikes. My wife says, “ You can only ride one at a time” Only a non biker would say that🤣 You should have a look at Michael Mams collection. His channel is called The Mam Journals. I think he has at least a dozen bikes of all different kinds. It’s quite a collection. I hope you really enjoy your Himalayan which I’m sure you will and I’ll definitely still be watching your videos even if you won’t have the Classic 350 for much longer. All the best👍
@@markfletcher443 Thanks Mark.
Yes, unfortunately I am imposing a two bike limit for this year. 2024 should be my three bike year if all goes well !
Something had to give and so far I am really impressed by the Himalayan and the local trails. It's terribly exciting.
Thanks for the recommendation, will try to remember to check that channel out 🤗
It's funny that your wife says that.
I always say "two bikes and only one arse" 😂
Take care Mark and thanks for sticking around. We promise to keep you entertained !
Garry & Ruby
This is such an easy `fix`, so I think I will do it anyway, as part of my winter preparation, with some electrical contact cleaner and a bit of WD40, even though my speedo is fine at the moment.
Hi Dave,
I would. Just be careful with the connector, it can be stiff, just make sure you are not pulling on the wires when getting it off.
The day after this, after three months of waiting, the dealer called to say that my new speedo had arrived. Typical ! 😂
I won't get it fitted, I want to give my original one another chance.
If it plays up again, I will get the new one fitted but will also clean and lube the connections straight away. It can't hurt and it could definitely help prevent these issues from occurring in the first place. So even if you haven't had an issue yet, cleaning and lubing the connector really can't hurt, as long as you don't damage the wiring harness.
Good luck, I would definitely consider this fix as "preventative maintenance", I'd say it was worth doing, whether you've had an issue or not !
Cheers Dave,
ER.
@@economicalrides Hi. Yes, typical that it arrived after you sorted the original one. I don`t blame you for giving the original one a second chance.
Thanks for the tip about the wiring connector. I am always careful not to pull on the wires, with any connector.
I have just fitted a heel / toe gear shifter, which arrived this morning, only a few days after I ordered it and it makes the gear change so much easier. I had moved the original lever up one notch and it was better but I must say, the heel / toe is better again. Looking forward to watching more videos from you 👍
@@davericketts9101 Thanks Dave,
I‘d love a heel toe shifter on my Classic, I really would, if I could buy one from Europe !!!
Buying from India is such a pain, here in Spain. The whole customs charges and delivery delays make it super unappealing !
I haven’t given up all hope that RE dealers might start supplying them officially someday.
Even in its new position I still find the original shift lever to be 🤬🤬🤬
Oh well, glad you got yours and I‘m sure it is a massive improvement !
Cheers Dave 🥃
ER
@@economicalrides Sorry for the delayed reply.... Sad you are having difficulty getting one and hope you are soon able to get one. I felt exactly the same about the original gear lever after raising it one notch and the heel / toe shifter is 100% better and so easy to use. The seller I bought mine from (at a very reasonable £34.80 incl. postage) has just put them up to £56! They must realise that a lot of people want them.
Good luck.
@@davericketts9101 Cheers Dave 🙂
Well if I ever do get one, I’ll be sure to mention it on the channel 👍
I’m sure it’s waaaaaay nicer to use ! Enjoy yours 🙂
Have a great evening 🥃🥃
ER
merci Warro .. pour les petit conseil , je n'ai pas encore eu le problème avec ma chrome bronze .. mais aujourd'hui j'ai trouvé un autre problème sur mon speedo j'ai vu une goutte d'eau a l'intérieur !!! a tu entendu que d'autre avais eu ce problème ? ..
Il faut être prudent en lavant le Classic 350. J'ai aussi eu de l'eau dans le compteur de vitesse la première fois que j'ai lavé mon Classic. J'ai maintenant une tache d'eau à l'intérieur du verre.
Cheers,
ER
@@economicalrides oui cette trace va rester , la mienne elle est venue par la pluie moto a l'arrêt sous une bâche de chez Royal Enfield.. autre choses mauvaise nouvelle ici en Belgique ils ont dit ce soir au journal télévisé que toutes les moto devrons passer au contrôle technique ...
@@jean-jacquesnameche3429 Est-ce nouveau pour la Belgique ? Nous avons cela tous les ans ou tous les deux ans selon l'âge du véhicule 🤷♂️
@@economicalrides oui c'est tout nouveau chez nous.
Hi ER My classic 350 Halcyon green now has 3500 klm on the clock and so far at least I haven't suffered the dreaded speedo issue. I don't know if it makes any difference, but I ALWAYS wait for the speedo to complete its start up cycle totally before pressing the starter switch. (It's obviously got some sort of computer chip in it, so a power spike or drain at the wrong moment could cause the device to have a fart attack.) ?????
Hi Kevin,
no, I always do that too, I even wait for the fuel injection to finish priming.
In my case it started when the bike was parked in the sun. On the next start the needle just got stuck. I think that this instrument is very sensitive to changes in voltage and there is something in the connector which causes issues when it gets hot. This seems to affect the calibration sweep. It's weird but I'm sure that heat is causing the connector to deliver inconsistent voltage to the instrument itself and that manifests itself in the speedo getting confused in its calibration sweep. It may just be grease or corrosion on one pin. It certainly seems as though cleaning and lubing this connector has made a difference. I'm convinced that the issue is not with the speedos themselves but with the quality of the connection to the speedo. I would recommend this as preventative maintenance personally, it can't do any harm if you are careful and may prevent issues occurring in the future. I might even do it annually if it proves to have solved the problem !
The next day my dealer told me that after three months my new speedo had finally arrived ! Typical ! For now they can keep it !
Cheers Kevin 🙂
ER
Hi, I'm of the same opinion that it is heat that is the issue that effects the Speedo. I'm in Indonesia and if I happen to leave the bike Speedo in direct sunlight I get the problem. Start riding with cooling air crossing the instrument cluster and the Speedo resets itself 👍. I'm going to try Warros solution as you suggest 🙏
@@BobfmBali Certainly in my case and many others, heat seems to provoke the issue, or better said, direct sunlight. Others may be having other problems caused by other things but clearly in our cases it is very dependent upon the heat.
The surprising thing was that this time the speedo did not correct itself after being unused in the garage for over three weeks. It had ample time to cool down whilst I was in Germany but when I came back and started it for the first time, it still stuck at 20 kph. So at some point it starts playing up even when it is no longer hot.
But this little job was easy to do and seems to have fixed it for now 🤞
Cheers Hqmpest !
ER
Happy riding
Question?
I tried to clean the connector. As I tried to disconnect the port after pulling the red middle part down, it was impossible to unlatch it. The red part came down though. After that, It wouldn’t budge, and I’m not a weak man. I tried pulling it side to side like you would do to a tooth. It felt permanently attached. How much force should I use? Can I use pliers? Anything to loosen it?
I tried the on and off technique and it worked one more time, but I want a more permanent fix.
Thanks
MJR
Hi there MJR,
that doesn't sound good. I am trying to remember how it was done because I haven't touched it since making this video last year. I recall that it was quite stiff to pull apart and I think it also comes apart slightly differently than you would imagine, so you might be pulling in the wrong place. I also struggled initially and nearly gave up but eventually I started pulling in the right place and it did come apart. Just freeze frame this video, where the connector is separated and see if you can work out where the join of the two parts is. I think you may be expecting it to separate in the wrong place.
If you are trying to pull it apart in the right place, it should eventually come apart with some pulling and wiggling, no need to use tools on it and if you do you'll probably break the plastic on the connector.
So just make sure that you are trying to separate the two halves IN THE RIGHT PLACE and pull and wiggle. It should come apart, just be patient.
Good luck MJR
ER
@@economicalrides thanks ER. Will do! Ride safe!
I fixed my Speedo with the spray. wahoo. I was able to detach since there is a small button part like in the middle area area of the port. Press that in and it smooths right off. Ride safe!
@@maiojoserivera786 Congratulations Maio, glad you got it sorted. If it ever plays up again, just repeat the process. Saves a trip to the dealer and losing your mileage if they decide to fit a new speedo.
But mine held for 8 months without the problem coming back 👍🏻
Thanks for getting back to me, enjoy your Classic Maio.
Cheers,
ER.
Luckily it's not happened yet but if it does I know what to do. 👍
Hi Robert,
it’s definitely worth a shot before getting the dealer involved ! Still working for me and easily repeated should it become necessary.
Also, most people get their mileage set to zero when they get a new speedo under warranty ( although I am convinced that the mileage can be programmed into a new speedo, it’s just that the dealers do not know this ! ), which would really annoy me. I want to keep my original mileage if at all possible !
Thanks for watching Robert and 🤞 you don’t experience the issue !
Cheers 🥃🥃
ER
@@economicalrides absolutely agree with you. It looks to be an electrical contact issue! Maybe the male pins are just a tiny bit thin for the female plug. Good to know yours is still working 😊🤞👍
Looks like an easy enough fix, Thanks
Hi John,
the connector can be a bit of a sod to pull apart but be patient with it and apply force in the right places and it does come apart eventually !
Since I did this my speedo was fine, right up until I traded the bike in. So the fix lasted 8-9 months and was still working well at the end 👍🏻
Cheers John,
ER
@@economicalrides Yeah, I tried it last night and ended up giving up. I may try it again, or just let the dealer handle it. I noticed yesterday the face of my speedo with the numbers on it is starting come unglued I guess from where it belongs so it may be time for a new one anyway.
@@jreid641 Well in that case it may not be worth persevering with, it's true !
If I recall correctly, you have to move the red locking tab up and there is some sort of "button" which you also press down to enable the two parts to separate. It was a long time ago now but I think once the red tab is up, there is a raised something or other, either in the centre or one each side, which can be pressed down or in and then the two halves come apart.
If you do get a new speedo, maybe ask your dealer beforehand to find out if they can program in your previous mileage. I believe they can but only when the speedo is new. I think they should have that option when they connect their code reader / programmer thingy 👍🏻 Most dealers just say "No, you'll lose your previous odometer reading" but I think that if they actually bothered to enquire, they will discover that actually it IS possible. It certainly should be possible, but of course only when the speedo is reading zero, after that the option would have to disappear to prevent mileage tampering.
Good luck. It's a bizarre but yet very common problem, that Classic 350 speedo unit !
Cheers John,
ER.
Any update on this?
Hi Bee Dee,
it hasn’t played up since but it also hasn’t really been out in the sun for very long since I did this either.
But I think this procedure helps and if the speedo ever plays up again, I will repeat it and see what happens.
I‘m so confident though, that I told the dealer that they can send the replacement speedo back to RE !
Cheers,
ER
This just happened to my Classic 350 on a Sunday. I went to the dealership and they plugged the computer to the bike and they told me this was caused by abs error code? Anyway they managed to put it back to 0, I picked the bike up and rode it for 15min, Speedo started acting up again! All bummed because it was a beautiful day to ride I went back to the dealer, they said they will replace the sensors and the speedo.. I left it at the dealership because here in Australia while you are on your L’s you cannot have the phone on the bike (means I can’t use gps Speedo on the phone).. really bummed. Wondering if it should pick the bike up and do this myself. The guys are not sure how long this whole thing will take
@@beedee7392 Hi Bee Dee,
honestly I WOULD !
It's quite possible that when this happens it creates an ABS error code. After all, the speedo is just a display for the signal the ABS sensor sends with the wheel speed.
In this case the ABS error is probably just "speedo error" or "speedo calibration error".
It is possible to switch the ignition off and on again multiple times to get the speedo back to zero. That's what I did the first time it happened to me and that worked for a brief while.
But for me, disconnecting, cleaning and reconnecting the speedo connector fixed the problem immediately ( as this video shows ) and the fix is still working months later, although as I mentioned, I really need to ride through a hot summer before being sure that the fix is permanent. But even if it did start playing up again, I'd still repeat this fix before bothering my dealer with it. Even if I have to repeat this process every six months, it's easy to do, takes about 15 minutes all told.
So honestly, before the dealer starts swapping out bits which don't need to be swapped out, I would definitely give this a go. 100%. Maybe even ask the dealer to do it for you. You could be saving them a lot of work !
It's a shame that a GPS speedo on a phone is not an option for you. There are probably bluetooth displays which connect to the navigation app on your phone ( which could then be in your pocket ) or I believe that a bicycle speedo is also considered legal and they are dirt cheap ! Just as a backup I mean.
If the bike is now at the dealership I would just ask them to do what I did here, tell them that you want the bike back quickly. If it doesn't turn out to be a fix, you will bring the bike back later. But if it is a fix, you've just saved them a ton of grief !
If you had the bike at home, I would tell you to just crack on and try it for yourself, definitely. But since you don't, ask the dealer if they could try it for you.
You can link to the video and tell them that since I did this just the once, I have had about four months without a reoccurrence.
Good luck Bee Dee,
let me know how it goes !
ER.
So before I could pick up the bike the guys have already replaced the speedo and speed sensor, the speedo of course is down to zero, so basically have a “new bike”
Anyways, seems to be working good now, I need to go for a longer ride on the weekend and see how it goes, hopefully doesn’t happen again. All replaced under warranty
@@beedee7392 Bummer. Going back to 0km is mildly annoying 🫤
Well at least they got it done very quickly, sounds like a good dealer !
I had a three month wait for my new speedo and by the time it had finally arrived, I had done my "fix" and decided that I didn't need it anymore.
Plenty of people are on their third or fourth new speedo already, so if the problem does crop up again, try the "fix" before going back to the dealer. You could save yourself some aggro 🙂
If my Classic makes it through the summer without the speedo playing up again, I'm calling the fix permanent. A bit too cold at the moment to be sure that it's not just coincidence that it's still working. We'll see.
Thanks for letting me know how you got on Bee Dee 👍🏻
Good luck with the new bike, make sure you run her in nice and gently ! 😂
Cheers 👍🏻
ER.
WD40 and a hammer.
If that does not work, use a larger hammer...
It sounds like you went to the same school of mechanics as I did CC 😂
Add some cable ties and some duct tape and you have a fully featured toolkit, adequate for any job !
Cheers buddy 🍺
ER.