New 2023 BMW R1250 GS Low Suspension
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- In Depth Review of the BMW R1250 GS with Low Suspension. the video covers seat heights, the TFT Display, Fuel Tank with real world milage and the TFT Display.
At the time of publishing the video this was the best information that I had.
Please note that the:
Standard GS Seat Heights:
Standard Split Seat 850 / 870 MM or 33.5 / 34.3 Inches
Low Rally Seat 840 MM or 33 Inches
High Rally Seat is 863.6 MM or 34 inches
Low Seat 820 / 840 MM or 32.28 / 33 Inches
High Seat 870 / 890 MM 0r 34.3 / 35 inches
Low Suspension GS overall 50 MM / 2 Inches seat heights Lower
Standard Split Seat 800 / 820 MM 0r 31.5 / 32.3 Inches
Low Rally Seat 790 MM or 31.1 Inches
High Rally Seat 810 MM or 32 Inches
Low Seat 770 / 790 MM or 30.3 / 31.1 Inches
High Seat 820 / 840 MM or 32.3 / 33 Inches
Standard GS Adventure Seat Heights:
Standard Split Seat 890 / 910 MM or 35 / 35.8 Inches
Low Rally Seat 880 MM or 34.65 Inches
High Rally Seat is 900 MM or 35.43 Inches
Low Seat 860 / 880 MM or 33.8 / 34.64 Inches
High Seat 910 / 930 MM or 36.2 / 37 Inches
Low Suspension GS Adventure overall 50 MM / 2 Inches seat heights Lower
Standard Split Seat 840 / 860 MM or 33 / 33.8 Inches
Low Rally Seat 830 MM or 32.67 Inches
High Rally Seat 850 MM or 33.46 Inches
Low Seat 810 / 830 MM or 31.8 / 32.67 Inches
High Seat 860 / 880 MM or 33.8 / 34.65 Inches
It is extremely hard to find this information in an easy to use format so I hope this helps.
Thanks for the metric conversions..really good..
Thanks have a Phenomenal Day!
Glad to see a new video about your GS. Looking forward to more travel video's as well.
Maybe some day show us your entire bike collection...looks like you have several in the garage.
Thanks again & stay safe!
Thanks for the comment. That's a great idea for a video. Have a Phenomenal Day!
Thanks for the good info!
Thanks. Informative.
After several standard height GS’s over the years, I’ve just purchased my first GSA in factory low suspension. My inseam is the same as yours and after test driving the gsa in low suspension I was in love. I pick it up this Saturday. Also, thank you for your videos. I love them. They keep me dreaming of long trips when I can’t be on the road.
Enjoy your new ride you will love it and safe travels. I really appreciate your comment. Have an Awesome Day!
Thanks for your input, we have similar backgrounds and have had similar bikes. I was leaning towards a low suspension but wasn't sure. You convinced me. I'm not waiting for the new bike.
You will love the Motorcycle! Have a Phenomenal Day and Safe Travels
Very informative. I like the looks of the GS over the GSA.
I feel the same. Have a Phenomenal Day!
I am 5"7, totally happy with std suspension. 😊
That's Great! the Motorcycle is Awesome. Have a Phenomenal Day!
You big stud. YES!!!!! Seat height. Not falling down at a stoplight in Aspen because you're on your toes!!! Thank you. So much good stuff out there but you are exactly right - this is where it starts. I was heading to the GSA, not now. Thanks, big.
You will be super happy with the GS. You will have no regrets at all. Especially if you're in Colorado riding off-road. Safe travels and have a Phenomenal Day!
Thanks for your videos, they're really informative and a joy to watch. Thanks for all the work you put into them
Stuart Thank you appreciate your. comment. Have a Phenomenal Day!
Great video. Where did you get the amber covers for the auxiliary lights?
Fantastically helpful, thanks as I’ve just bought the low suspension gs ultimate but don’t know anything about the gs. Cheers
Your really going to enjoy the motorcycle have a Phenomenal Day!
I just got this exact same motorcycle about two weeks ago coming from a standard and am so glad I didn’t convince myself I should get another standard. I’m 5’10, 39, and have ridden motorcycles all kinds of motorcycles since I was 8. Nothing gained from the taller bike. If you’re 5’10 or below, you will enjoy this bike way more than a standard regardless of your skill level or experience. If there was some real compromise I might go with a standard but there really isn’t.
Congrats on the new motorcycle I feel the exact same way you feel. Have a Phenomenal Day! and Safe Travels
looks fantastic ✌️
Thank you! Cheers!
Try s Purple seat cushion. Good review.
Muchas gracias por tan completa Review.. e información muy detallada y de calidad .
Un abrazo grande desde Paraguay 🇵🇾🤙🏻
Thank you much appreciated have an Awesome Day!
Great job mate.
Thanks 👍Have a Phenomenal Day!
nikel ta video mercis
Have an Awesome Day!
Great Video. I bought a used GS low from a non BMW dealer who didn't know (or disclose) it was a low version. It's great on road but not sure how I feel about the loss of clearance yet. I did want to try the mellow portions of the Western States BDR's. Do you know the clearance data of the GS Low and the GSA Low, and standard GS?
I have the adventure low Suspension and i love it , am also 5,10 and 32 inch inseam, always on auto sitting with saddlemen seat and it’s great, I feel so comfortable while am riding and very confident when am stopping. No stress at all
Also I do a lot of off road, no problem just I have to rise the steering higher position.
That is awesome! Thanks for sharing have a Phenomenal Day!
Great vid on the low suspension.
I’m 5’7” which really doesn’t make a difference. What’s important is my 30” inseam. Thanks for mentioning your 32” inseam which is what’s important. I’m riding a 2022 GSA Rallye with the Rallye seat. You mentioned the rallye seat needs to be set on high in the front. My rallye seat is set on low both in front and back. Those Anakee Adventures are great even when the roads are completely white from hail lol. But I switched them for the Karoo4’s as I run off road quite a bit and want the extra safety especially from the front in the dirt. Plus they also work great in the rain seeing as I live in the Pacific Northwest. For the riding I do, the extra ground clearance of the standard helps and I don’t want to give that up. But as I age and make the switch to just road, the low model makes the most sense. As for the big GSA fuel tank vs the smaller GS tank, most comments I get is about the extra weight. With the GSA tank I have the option of not filling it up if I need to stay light or topping it up for the long haul. Fuel mileage wise I’m around 46 mpg on the roads, 30 mpg first gear running off road. Enjoyed your review and subbed.
Thanks for your feedback and comment really appreciate it have a Phenomenal Day!
I have the 2021 GSA low suspension. I purchased the GSA exclusively for the larger tank and greater range. The first GS I had gave me a range of only 180 miles. Range anxiety is a real thing for me having been in a situation in the Nevada desert.
You are spot on with 180 mile range as I get the same. Never want to run out of fuel in the Nevada Desert especially when it's 120 degrees. Thanks for your feedback have a Phenomenal Day!
Thanks for the video.., this helps me big time as I plan on getting the GS. At 5’-8” with 32” inseam, the low version will be my best option. Still trying to decide between the GS and the GSA. I plan on renting both next week to help with the decision. Looking forward the many miles on the BMW. Thanks again for the video:)
Have Fun with the renting and riding of the two bikes. Having both I really prefer the GS over the GSA. You will notice the difference. Enjoy the Ride and have a Phenomenal Day!
Wow! I'm 5' 7" and did consider a 'low' when i saw the option. But very happy i stuck with the standard bike...even set the seat on high as it seems more comfortable. I just flat foot with one foot
Thanks for you comment appreciate your feedback.. Everyone rides differently. Safe travels and have a Phenomenal Day!
I’m 5,7 29” inseam . I have a gsa adventure with the Wilbur esa shocks lowered by 50mm
Thanks I always thought seat height is too high I’m also 5 foot 10 inches tall so bought GS F700 in 2015 Decenber with low seat obtion which was ok but this low suspension low seat it is even better. You have got 25 years experience and about 60 ish years old. I think BMW is manufacturing the best toys for man. It is all about advanture ₺ expedition the result is satisfaction noone could describe it has to be lived. RIDE ON❤
Thank you for your comment. You are absolutely right is all about "adventure and expedition" Life has "to be lived" Make it the Greatest Day of Your Life!
Great video. I have a 1250GS std suspension. I'm interested in a GSA Low Suspension. Is there any difference in ride quality or handling with the GSA Low Suspension over the 1250GS std suspension? I never go off road.
I have the low suspension GS only by chance as the dealer didn’t have anything else, but I don’t regret it. It’s not about how tall or short you are, it’s your inseam that matters.
You are correct. I feel no difference in the bike being low verse the standard suspension that I had before. It's much better now when I can always flat foot. Have an Awesome Day!
indeed. i’m 6’1” but have shorter legs and i’m really looking at a lower suspension bike
Very nice video sr but i have a big question if i have in front of me a gs low suspension how can i know or what i need to check on the bike to know is a low suspension or standar uf nobody tell me or nobody knows? There are some tips or places or part of the bike that will tell me this bike is a low suspension for sure?
Thank you for the excellent information. I'm considering a GS and this helps me sort out what I should be looking for. I've had several Beemers and still have a couple but I've long been interested in the GS. I'm short so seat height is an important consideration. Your video has helped a lot. Congratulations on your purchase and I hope you get many miles of enjoyment on it. Ride safe!
Glad it was helpful! You will love the GS its an Amazing Ride! The low suspension is Awesome. Safe Travels and have a Phenomenal Day!
@@EpicTime2Go I rode a friend of mine's lowered GS about a month ago. Can't get it out of my head! Thank you again.
I just love the BMW GS 1250 but very scared of it due to my height..I am 5.4 with 28 inches inseam, so u think I will be able to ride it with low suspension and low seat at low setting as u said its 770m in this configuration and I currently ride the Royal Enfield Himalayan with 800 mm seat height which weight 200kgs, I usually just put one foot flat on my bike.. reply plz
Would you happen to have a link to the head light cover and fog light covers. I think the yellow is a great safety idea. Thanks!
Purchased on Amazon The Description is Motorcycle Fog Light Protector Cover Fog Light Covers Fit For R1200GS Adventure F800GS Adventure R1250GS / ADV LC (Yellow) Brand was AFNCX. I hope you can find it and have a Phenomenal Day!
Do you know what the front and rear suspension travel is of the GSA Low Suspension?
I'm assuming all the other dimensions are the same as the normal height GS ?? I was quite surprised when I test rode one how cramped the seating position was compared to my T7. Footpegs were too high and legs too bent for my liking. Awesome engine though.
Thanks for the comment, This is why the GS comes with so many different seat hight options so that riders with longer or shorter inseams can have the leg bend that is most comfortable to them. The engine is great! Have a Phenomenal Day
Did you upgrade the windscreen, if yes which one did you install?
I did Not change the windscreen. I really like the windscreen that comes with the motorcycle, it's perfect. Just the correct amount of wind on your shoulders and no head buffeting at high speeds for me. Have a Phenomenal Day!
Looks like the front doesnt adjust with the pre-load. Right? So the pitch of the bike changes .. pitches fore when up and and aft when down
Only the back spring changes the front stays the same. I don't notice any changes in angle when on the bike but there could be... Thanks for your comment and have a Phenomenal Day!
Thank you yes i agree low is better. .had many many . gs 1200 is king . !!! I want the 1250 now. L/s. ,i short. Love the boxers torque is best
howmutch did this bike cost ?
There was one Dude from YT in the USA who was complaining regarding bad road handling for his GS. Whe found out there is major difference between lower suspension on the GS and regular one for the comfort.
I have ridden both the standard and low suspension each thousands of miles across the country and feel No difference in comfort at all, but everyone is different. The low suspension for me is the same in comfort and it's so much easier to maneuver when you need your feet on the ground like parking lots, uneven surfaces, etc. Have a Phenomenal Day!
Curious - why did you chose the optional low seat and set it in the high position vs. keeping the standard seat and set in the low position? I heard that the low seat is less comfortable w less padding than the standard seat. Is this true? Thanks!
I actually have both seats and used them both and prefer the Low Seat in the High Position. The comfort is the same. The thicker the seat does not make a difference to me at all. Thanks for your comment and have an Awesome Day!
After 700 miles on the low seat, i am no looking for something more comfy. I think what you said about the low is correct... Not enough pad.
Does the 30.3 inches with the low seat also include setting the bike in the min suspension?
Thank you for your comment, the seat heights are listed before you lower your suspension so you can lower it even further if needed. Have an Awesome Day!
You should watch some Joselin Snow videos. She’s 5’1” & a GS Trophy competitor and certified BMW off road instructor.
I had a GS and the clearance lowered could not get up big curbs, it had electrical issue 300km out in 110f then sold it for repaireble airhead.
Sorry to hear about your problems I personally have had none. Thanks for your comment and have a Phenomenal Day!
Question if I may?
Is there a difference in comfort between Low Seat and Standard Seat due to the fewer sponge (soft) materials? I am also thinking, is there maybe a better option to have a standard seat in a low position instead of a low seat in a high position? Would like to hear from you as saw in the in the video, that you had both seats in possession and maybe to share experience. BTW I am also 5'10.
No difference in the comfort of the seats for me. I used both the standard seat and low seat and like the low seat better. The Low suspension bike is so much better for my height and inseam. Make it an Awesome Day!
Yes, the low seat is very uncomfy after a while
What is the main difference between the GS and the GS Adventure? Is it the tank size only ?
Differences Seat Height in GSA is higher to start with, tank size is bigger, you get uper and lower crash bars standard, you get rear luggage racks standard, your get front riding lights standard, depending on model your foot pegs are different, your foot shift peg can rotate out a little and it costs more. For me the GS is better, and I do not regret selling the GSA. I hope this helps and have a Phenomenal Day!
It’s my understanding that putting the electronic suspension in the Min preload setting (low setting) effects only the rear shock - it lowers the rear but not the front. This changes the rake angle of the motorcycle which adversely impacts handling. Expect in very unique situations (like dee sand) it’s not a good idea to ride around with the suspension in the MIN setting.
The Max and Min only changes the back spring the front stays exactly the same and I can feel no riding difference. I do not think it affects the rake angle on the front as it stays in the same position only the back spring is compressed. I could be wrong about this... Now with the low suspension I just keep it in auto, before with the standard I used MIN and did not notice a difference. Thanks for you comment and have a Great Day!
Hi. I think bmw quotes the low suspension model GS is a combination of lower suspension AND the low seat. Therefore the Rallye seat figures in your excellent summary seems incorrect. It is 10mm lower than a standard seat, which surely means it’s 20mm taller than the low seat. The low seat is of course 30mm lower. All this also means the suspension drop must only be 20mm - being 50mm in total, less then -30mm in the seat. I think that’s correct but it’s very overly complicated!
Low Suspension GS overall is 50 MM / 2 Inches via the suspension that BMW installs at the factory.
Seat heights on the GS Low Suspension in the Auto Position
Standard Split Seat 800 / 820 MM 0r 31.5 / 32.3 Inches
Low Rally Seat 790 MM or 31.1 Inches
High Rally Seat 810 MM or 32 Inches
Low Seat 770 / 790 MM or 30.3 / 31.1 Inches
High Seat 820 / 840 MM or 32.3 / 33 Inches
I hope this helps have a Phenomenal Day!
I live in the US and my signal lights/brake lights work as you would like them to work. I think that’s a US spec bike thing.
How can I make my 2023 1250GS run a little richer? I know they all come lean from factory.
Waiting my trophy 2023 in a week time 🎉
You will love it, safe travels and enjoy the ride! Have a Phenomenal Day!
I always get somewhat confused on this seat height thing. I found mentioned on a forum , '' There is a LOW Suspension option. The low suspension is 1" lower than standard GS and 2" lower than standard GSA''. When I look it up I read this for the GS, 33.5" / 34.3" (850 mm / 870 mm) (OE lowered suspension 31.5" / 32.3" - 800 mm / 820 mm) which shows a 2'' drop from a standard GS and a lowered GS. If this is correct, the GSA would be 2.75'' higher than a low GS??
Both the GS and GSA in the low suspension versions are 2 inches lower than the standard suspension versions.
The Standard GS is lower than the Standard GSA by 40 mm or 1.5 inches - (Standard GSA seat height with a standard seat is 890 / 910 MM or 35 / 35.8 inches. The Low Suspension GS with the standard split seat is 800 / 820 mm or 31.5 / 32.3 inches. Difference is 90 mm or 3.5 inches from the GSA Standard to the GS Low Suspension with the same type of seat. if you use the Low Seat with the Low Suspension GS the Seat heights are 770 / 790 mm or 30.3 / 31.1 inches.
I hope this makes sense and my math was correct. Have a Phenomenal Day!
But I thought the GSA has 3/4'' more travel than the Standard GS? That is what everyone else seems to say. They say ''that GS has the Sport Suspension and is 3/4'' higher'', not the 40 mm or 1.5 inches you have stated and is why I am STILL confused.
The Sport suspension is a feature that you can order on the Standard GS which raises the suspension an additional .8 of an inch or 20 mm. You cannot have this on the low suspension model. Hope this helps
Thanks For the Great Video. I am not sold on the Low GS. I cannot Flatfoot my GSA, but I'd rather have the extra long suspension and distance the regular Bike has! i also believe a re-sale of the low Bike is more difficult. If you really are a shortie, it might be the only way but if you can get on and ride the regular GS, well it is a better Bike!
True. The low suspension is a bad compromise.
I can definitely understand what you are expressing but after having both the standard and low suspension bikes I so much prefer the low suspension. It is rider preference, but for me It is so nice to always feel stable when your stopped having weight on the bike with luggage etc. It's all in what the rider feels comfortable to them. Thank you for your feedback I really appreciate it and have an Awesome Day!
In the lowest position how is the side stand does it feel stable
No Difference in the Motorcycles Side Stand. Have a Great Day!
Спасибо тебе дорогой американский друг за эту информацию.
Your welcome have a Phenomenal Day!
Sir, I am 5’6”. Is it good for me ?
That's something you will have to decide. If you can ride a low suspension GS you will be able to tell. Have a Phenomenal Day!
Hah, almost everyone goes for Trail II's, amazing tire and a very good choice (I think I'm at the 4th set or something). I personally own a 2014 Low GS, and I confirm everything you said, except the Nav6 (it just fails too often, making it unreliable). About the suspension, the low version's travel is, well, lower, but both the regular and low bottom out at the same point, and that makes a difference when it comparing it to the regular. In your case, with auto, it shouldn't be much of a difference, but in my case, I have to tweak the hardness as well, to make it more comfortable.
I really appreciate your comment and feedback have a Phenomena Day, Safe Travels and Enjoy the Ride!
I'm 5' 8" and chose the standard seat with the height adjuster in high position. Btw bike's Low Suspension. And its more convenient on long rides.
Thanks of your feedback. I'm sure this is why they have so many seats and seat positions as everyone like something different. Make it the Greatest Day of Your Life!
what is the seat height of this bike ?
Low Suspension GS
Standard Split Seat 800 / 820 MM 0r 31.5 / 32.3 Inches
Low Rally Seat 790 MM or 31.1 Inches
High Rally Seat 810 MM or 32 Inches
Low Seat 770 / 790 MM or 30.3 / 31.1 Inches
High Seat 820 / 840 MM or 32.3 / 33 Inches
The only way I’d own one is a GS with the smaller tank. I’ve seen GSA ‘s on thier side and they are not easy to pick up, that 30l tank is heavy regardless of where the engine is.
With equal skilled riders the GSA will not be first in off-road conditions. Africa Twin will kick its ass all day long. But they are very nice bikes for thier purpose, they are simply too big.
The GSA's tank I agree is too big. The GS is a phenomenal motorcycle for adventure touring long distance. I really like the Low Suspension. Thanks for the feedback and have a Phenomenal Day!
You want automatic cruise control & blind spot detection in the mirrors, so you want a Ducati then.
Thanks for your comment I did not know that Ducati had that maybe BMW will also incorporated it in the new version coming out. Have a Phenomenal Day!
5' 10" IS NOT SHORT, this should have been done by someone qualified like 5' 5" or less.
It might not be short but for me the low suspension with my 32 inch inseam works best. Have an Awesome Day!
@@EpicTime2Go I don’t know why you have to explain yourself for your choices and comfort!
Heard many good things about the factory low suspension GS/GSA from TH-camrs and the BMW Motorrad sales team…..Lower CG, better road holding bla bla bla…..🙄
What a big mistake for me when I bought my late 2014 Low GSA!!!!!
I am 1.78M tall and able to handle the standard height GS/GSA at static and on the go.
Started on a standard 2008 GSA and moved on to a late 2013 standard GSLC.
Didn’t like the GSLC as it have no presence,frontal protection and tank range.
Bought the much rave low suspension GSALC in late 2014.
The low GSA LC looks weird when parked amongst the standard height GSA.
On the move riding on bumpy rough uneven B roads the side stand, main stand and rider foot pegs easily drag on the roads surface in more aggressive corners.
Now back onto a Standard suspension 1250 GSA LC
Happy again riding on any road surface conditions.
Low suspension GS/GSA may work for some riders but personally from my experience I wouldn’t recommend it unless you are 100% physically challenging with the normal standard height of the GS/GSA.
Thank you for your comment. I don't know how the 2014 compares to the 2023 model year but personally I don't have the same issues. Safe Travels and Enjoy the Ride!
Just when you think you are convinced that there should be no issues with the lowered version, somebody comes around the corner saying it’s a no go due to scraping … damnit, I wish there was once a topic in the www where everybody could agree on the same opinion 😂
should of waited for a 1300.
Why - is there a pre-announced difference in the 1300 height?
Why wait ?if we all waited on the next new model we would never buy a bike , what are yiou going to do when the 1300 is out wait on the 1350 ?
I don't want to wait to ride also all the bugs are worked out on the current model and it's an Awesome Motorcycle to ride. Maybe in the future I will get the newer one. Have a Phenomenal Day!
These bikes are not good for off road riding good luck trying to pick one up by yourself. Nobody wants to work on them, and hard to find parts in third world countries. Would never have one ever. SJ
They are heavy but if you're going long distance they are great. Thanks for the feedback. Have a Phenomenal Day!
A GS is much easier to pick up than other bikes in its class, as the crash bars prevent it from lying completely flat on the ground. Its is also no heavier than other bikes in its class.