LOTRSBG is what got me into wargaming back in 2004. I'm glad it's nearly taken 20 years for people to start to appreciate the game more...better late than never right? I do wish GW would release some of the older scenery sets though...
Mines of Moria was the one I bought. But my kids never got into it so it stayed under the bed for years. Now looking at the future release of Midgard written by James Morris of GW histortic battles I had bought a load of GW LotR minis I now have large Rohan and Isengard armies. I might just pick up a copy of the rules.
I bought the Battle of Pelennor Fields twice for presents as well as Mines of Moria. Introduced three different generations to wargaming with this line. Good rules, nice miniatures. Hard to miss with Tolkein.
Hey Ben - awesome video dude, although I suppose I'm biased - thanks so much for all the really kind shout-outs! This was lovely to listen to, I always like hearing people talk about the hobby they love and hearing you wax lyrical about Middle-earth is just the best. I actually stumbled over your channel when TH-cam led me to your Mordhiem vid and I watched the whole thing without knowing it was you! Consider me subbed and it looks like I've got loads of great content to catch up on - better get stuck in! Damian
Thanks! It doesn't take much to have my waxing lyrical about Middle-earth! Glad you enjoyed the vid and very much looking forward to more from yourself as well. I have Farmer Maggot and his dogs alongside Bilbo sitting on my painting table currently so I can get stuck into Quest Of The Ringbearer.
Great recap of the MESBG from its history to how to get involved. Honestly going through how GW has supported the game over the last decade and more got me reminiscing on seeing the game change from movie releases, to a barely supported game to what it is now.
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it. The game really has gone through quite the ups and downs! All props to the community for keeping it bubbling away beneath the surface :)
@@BecauseOfDragons was brilliant never knew about gw till then and was an opening to the other games but no matter what middle earth will always be my game
One of my good friends and I have been building up the player base of this game in our area over the last few years… This game is amazing, the best rule set of any table top strategy game I’ve played. Between SPQR, Bolt Action, 40k, AoS, and MESBG,,,, I’m going with MESBG all day. Best rules, most balance, best game flow, most exciting moments,,,, and overall just really freaking fun.
Very interesting video. I tried the game at a few conventions and enjoyed it a lot. Never bought into it, but was close with Mines of Moria and the newest starter set too.
What I love about this version is you really don't need a lot to get into it, 150-350p is virtually nothing compared to needing 1k-2k points worth of the other systems
I agree the system is excellent. I’ve got Dwarves, Isengard, Easterlings and Ents! My older son has Gondor, the fellowship and started Gundabad…my youner boy(13) has Moria.
Wow! I always loved Lord of the Rings miniatures game, I still have my "Mines of Moria" Boxset and a few extra miniatures. So yeah I started when "Mines of Moria" came out, they are really good decent sculpts.
Nice Vid sir…played wargames for years, but this is just what I wanted for MESBG….got Osgiliath box and 2 host boxes, because…why not. Like your approach for getting started, which I will be using for an introductory game. Thanks again.
I've never really cared much about the Lord of the Rings universe so this game left untouched by me for the longest time. one day I was bored so I browsed the rules and I really liked what I was reading. I found I prefer them over 40k and AoS after a few games and now I'm a fan.
Yeah the rules for Lord Of The Rings/Middle-earth are just great. I really like the fluidity of the system and how it scales so well. Good to know you got stuck into it!
I've never played it. Loved the movies but I wasn't into Tabletop games until 5 years ago when I was 35. I'd probably try it if GW redesigns the minis in a more animated style probably not based on the movies....
I'm going to be doing a video soon looking at alternative Tolkienesque miniatures that you could use to play the game. Keep an eye out and it might get you interested!
Nice video for our beloved Middle Earth hobby! I'm looking forward to playing some games soon as i have been slowly painting a few forces up in the last 18 months or so. Which rendition of the game has been your favourite to date? And in terms of another resource i would recommend the Nerd of the Rings youtube channel, it's great to have on whilst painting, and if you want to know the history and lore of Middle Earth then thats the place to go! :):)
I watch a lot of Nerd Of The Rings and Part Time Hobbit when painting for sure - keeps me in the mood to get through more Middle-earth! I really liked the way The Two Towers added in some new bits and pieces and I got back in during The Hobbit - found those rules really fun and tweaked just enough. New rules are also great and full of depth!
@@BecauseOfDragons ah not heard of Part Time Hobbit - I will have to check that out, thank you for giving me more content to browse! :):) I have only had a trickle of games so far, I'll be off to Warhammer World for a get together next month and then hopefully from then, march on and get gaming regularly!
You can get your hands on a lot of the miniature nowadays via Facebook groups and on eBay for very reasonable prices if you ever wanted to dive back in!
Awesome stuff - always been intrigued by folks collecting Easterlings, Harad and such. They were always such a small collection when I was playing the most. Good to see them bulked out by GW and Forge World though :)
@@BecauseOfDragons Elves have always been the main focus in SBG for me but with how good some of the new Easterling stuff looks it was too tempting to resist 😂
I’ve never played a GW game. I have played war games where all the stats are on the cards. How hard is it to teach someone this one? Do you have to constantly reference a book?
The game is very easy to learn. It's good to find a cheat sheet online somewhere but it will often start to just become easy to remember the more you play. You can also use this unofficial Army Builder which will "make" cards for you to print off to refer to on the tabletop avcordaro.github.io/mesbg-list-builder/
yes but dont talk so loudly about it! More attention by gw will just destroy this gem! leave it as is! It is only so good because it gets neglected by GW and therefore was able to dodge the usual release and power creep avalanches.
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LOTRSBG is what got me into wargaming back in 2004. I'm glad it's nearly taken 20 years for people to start to appreciate the game more...better late than never right? I do wish GW would release some of the older scenery sets though...
Yes, that would be brilliant!
An update to some of the models which are still the OG release would be good.
Mines of Moria was the one I bought. But my kids never got into it so it stayed under the bed for years. Now looking at the future release of Midgard written by James Morris of GW histortic battles I had bought a load of GW LotR minis I now have large Rohan and Isengard armies. I might just pick up a copy of the rules.
I bought the Battle of Pelennor Fields twice for presents as well as Mines of Moria. Introduced three different generations to wargaming with this line. Good rules, nice miniatures. Hard to miss with Tolkein.
Brilliant :) I think you're right - there is something that just clicks with his work!
I love the game primarily for its mechanic. Though I love the lore and most of the miniatures too.
It's quite the game for sure :)
Hey Ben - awesome video dude, although I suppose I'm biased - thanks so much for all the really kind shout-outs! This was lovely to listen to, I always like hearing people talk about the hobby they love and hearing you wax lyrical about Middle-earth is just the best. I actually stumbled over your channel when TH-cam led me to your Mordhiem vid and I watched the whole thing without knowing it was you! Consider me subbed and it looks like I've got loads of great content to catch up on - better get stuck in! Damian
Thanks! It doesn't take much to have my waxing lyrical about Middle-earth! Glad you enjoyed the vid and very much looking forward to more from yourself as well. I have Farmer Maggot and his dogs alongside Bilbo sitting on my painting table currently so I can get stuck into Quest Of The Ringbearer.
Love hearing about your nostalgia - we all have a lot of that : )
Always nice looking back at the collection!
Great recap of the MESBG from its history to how to get involved. Honestly going through how GW has supported the game over the last decade and more got me reminiscing on seeing the game change from movie releases, to a barely supported game to what it is now.
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it. The game really has gone through quite the ups and downs! All props to the community for keeping it bubbling away beneath the surface :)
Love the game been playing it since was 8, my parents got me the first magazine after weeks of begging haha
Haha awesome - that part works was a brilliant way to get people into the game. They did a really good job with those magazines.
@@BecauseOfDragons was brilliant never knew about gw till then and was an opening to the other games but no matter what middle earth will always be my game
One of my good friends and I have been building up the player base of this game in our area over the last few years… This game is amazing, the best rule set of any table top strategy game I’ve played. Between SPQR, Bolt Action, 40k, AoS, and MESBG,,,, I’m going with MESBG all day. Best rules, most balance, best game flow, most exciting moments,,,, and overall just really freaking fun.
Totally agree - I think they absolutely nailed the rules and feel to make sure everything is spot on when it comes to theme :)
So happy to have stumbled over your channel. Was hoping someone has summarized the history of the game. 👍
Happy that you've been enjoying the content :)
Very interesting video. I tried the game at a few conventions and enjoyed it a lot. Never bought into it, but was close with Mines of Moria and the newest starter set too.
I think a lot of folks have been on the edge with it aye - fingers crossed they make it all the easier for people to take the plunge :)
What I love about this version is you really don't need a lot to get into it, 150-350p is virtually nothing compared to needing 1k-2k points worth of the other systems
Yeah - it's awesome that you can just dive in and have some fun with a handful of miniatures per side :)
I agree the system is excellent. I’ve got Dwarves, Isengard, Easterlings and Ents!
My older son has Gondor, the fellowship and started Gundabad…my youner boy(13) has Moria.
Brilliant stuff - some good choices of faction there. Great to hear that it's a family endeavour!
Wow! I always loved Lord of the Rings miniatures game, I still have my "Mines of Moria" Boxset and a few extra miniatures. So yeah I started when "Mines of Moria" came out, they are really good decent sculpts.
It was a great starting point for folks you're right! I sort of wish I'd got the new Mines Of Moria board game tbh!
@@BecauseOfDragons Yeah that would be great, and maybe a nice starting point for new players.
Nice Vid sir…played wargames for years, but this is just what I wanted for MESBG….got Osgiliath box and 2 host boxes, because…why not. Like your approach for getting started, which I will be using for an introductory game. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching and I hope you have great fun with the game and getting started with it! Would love to hear about your progress!
Brilliant video mate, thanks for this!
No prolem what-so-ever!
Wonderful Ben, many thanks 🙏
"Mostly run by Damian"!!!!! The cheek of it! ;)
Foot meet mouth! My humble apologies good sir!
Best game ever. You can play any army and be in with a chance of wining. Only one that is close is the old inqusitor RPG.
Glad you're on the same Middle-earth SBG awesomeness train :)
@@BecauseOfDragons Yeh man completly I'm obsesed, even started a channel lol. Great vid man.
I've never really cared much about the Lord of the Rings universe so this game left untouched by me for the longest time. one day I was bored so I browsed the rules and I really liked what I was reading. I found I prefer them over 40k and AoS after a few games and now I'm a fan.
Yeah the rules for Lord Of The Rings/Middle-earth are just great. I really like the fluidity of the system and how it scales so well. Good to know you got stuck into it!
Have you seen what they are bringing out this Christmas?
I have indeed - I did a video about it over the weekend :) I am very excited for what's coming up
yup
I've never played it. Loved the movies but I wasn't into Tabletop games until 5 years ago when I was 35. I'd probably try it if GW redesigns the minis in a more animated style probably not based on the movies....
I'm going to be doing a video soon looking at alternative Tolkienesque miniatures that you could use to play the game. Keep an eye out and it might get you interested!
What was the other game they used the rule set for?
Legends Of The Old West (a Warhammer Historical game) used the same core mechanics :)
@@BecauseOfDragons Nicely done, sir. That's some deep lore right there.
Nice video for our beloved Middle Earth hobby! I'm looking forward to playing some games soon as i have been slowly painting a few forces up in the last 18 months or so.
Which rendition of the game has been your favourite to date?
And in terms of another resource i would recommend the Nerd of the Rings youtube channel, it's great to have on whilst painting, and if you want to know the history and lore of Middle Earth then thats the place to go! :):)
I watch a lot of Nerd Of The Rings and Part Time Hobbit when painting for sure - keeps me in the mood to get through more Middle-earth! I really liked the way The Two Towers added in some new bits and pieces and I got back in during The Hobbit - found those rules really fun and tweaked just enough. New rules are also great and full of depth!
@@BecauseOfDragons ah not heard of Part Time Hobbit - I will have to check that out, thank you for giving me more content to browse! :):)
I have only had a trickle of games so far, I'll be off to Warhammer World for a get together next month and then hopefully from then, march on and get gaming regularly!
Really regret selling off my four armies for the main 4 factions from the Return of the King era
You can get your hands on a lot of the miniature nowadays via Facebook groups and on eBay for very reasonable prices if you ever wanted to dive back in!
Totally Agree, best g ame
GW’s best game in my opinion gameplay/balance wise! Currently finishing my second army with Easterlings being the next one coming up.
Awesome stuff - always been intrigued by folks collecting Easterlings, Harad and such. They were always such a small collection when I was playing the most. Good to see them bulked out by GW and Forge World though :)
@@BecauseOfDragons Elves have always been the main focus in SBG for me but with how good some of the new Easterling stuff looks it was too tempting to resist 😂
I’ve never played a GW game. I have played war games where all the stats are on the cards. How hard is it to teach someone this one? Do you have to constantly reference a book?
The game is very easy to learn. It's good to find a cheat sheet online somewhere but it will often start to just become easy to remember the more you play. You can also use this unofficial Army Builder which will "make" cards for you to print off to refer to on the tabletop avcordaro.github.io/mesbg-list-builder/
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yes but dont talk so loudly about it! More attention by gw will just destroy this gem! leave it as is! It is only so good because it gets neglected by GW and therefore was able to dodge the usual release and power creep avalanches.
I was the same, felt pretty sick. I had the flu.
The men of gondor😏