Flip Rise of Iron to S. Drop Forsaken to A. Forsaken was good but I think it's overjoyed. It fixed a lot of stuff but the locations of the Tangled Shore and Dreaming City were beautiful but not fleshed out with as much stuff to do as Mars was for Warming. Plus I think Wrath is a better overall raid than Last Wish.
I’m putting crota over frost hive and escalation protocol any day haha for it to be their first expansion ever which offered a short, but great raid, arguably one of the best armor sets for all classes and BLACK HAMMER. New story missions, introduction of using the hive sword around the world, Eris and so much more. All for $15. Easily A
I would put curse higher coz it costed like 17 dollars and you got story raid etc. today you pay 40 dollars for the same amount of content. I actually dunno why people hate curse.
For me personally, Shadowkeep, Season of the Chosen, and Vanilla D2 need to drop down to C Tier. I'd also probably bump Black Armory to S-Tier -- I've always thought of it as the most underrated dlc in the game's history. The biggest flaw was the three week content draught that happened before opening the forge. However, the secrets were a ton of fun. I remember all the hours I put in on Raidsecrets to work on the puzzles and Niobe Labs. Plus, Scourge of the Past was a good raid. It wasn't as lengthy as we'd have liked, but was 1000x better than Crown of Sorrow. We also got one of the most legendary weapons in the history of Destiny in Anarchy, another god-tier dps/pvp gun in Mountaintop, and other iconic exotics like Izanagi's Burden and Jotunn. Plus, like ya mentioned, the legendaries were great - Blast Furnace was a beast, Kindled Orchid was one of the best all purpose HC's in the game, and we can't forget about Threat Level or Spiteful Fang. Good times back then.
I think opulence is 100% S-Tier. Unfortunate that the studio making menagerie couldn’t stick around, but I really feel that it did about as much for the game as some of the bigger DLCs but to a lesser extent obviously due to being a season instead of DLC.
I feel like the Infinite Forest was a missed opportunity for Destiny 2 to have some sort of Roguelite-ish mode. Could have lore implications with the Vex suppressing the Light of curious guardians and scattering their abilities across the Forest. Buffs, Debuffs and experimentation with mix-matching abilities across all subclasses could of made Curse of Osiris way more interesting.
I remember thinking thats what the Infinite Forest could have been like before the DLC launched. It seems like with the Shattered Realm in Season 15 Bungie may be more interested in the idea. I hope they are anyway, would be super cool and would fix people’s complaints of activities being too repetitive.
Forsaken is 100% best story I have ever played and the exotics are s tier Edit:don’t play the game anymore and I only like it because it was my first dlc I git
@@UNKNOWN-.-7641 I actually find it hard to call Forsaken the 'best'. It was a phenomenal drop, and definitely on of the best in the franchise's history. Arguably my favorite Destiny mem ory is of when I first cleared Shattered Throne, during week 1, and then did the Wish Ender quest on top of it. We played almost non-stop for days, and finished it while underpowered by 40-50. That said, Forsaken had a lottt of issues too. We can't forget about the busted state of PvP, with OG Nova Warp running Rampant against launch-era OEM Titans. Plus, while the exotics were definitely awesome, the drop rates were some of the worst in the game's history. I only got ~5 new exotics during the Forsaken era, and thats pretty much in line with what my clanmates were getting. So yea, they were cool, but most players didn't get to try most of them until after the season ended. Overall its definitely an S/A tier expansion, I just dont think its the best of the best
To me Taken King has never been matched Forsaken came close but the lore, the secrets, the timing was amazing in TTK matter of fact i believe that if TTK was the first ever release of Destiny like instead of Vanilla it would have been GOTY or very close at least!!
@@wolfgarthefirst5735 yeah in a weird way, they changed it so she led them into the deep and told them of the sizagy when it was oryx. I mean all the twists from the dlc were obvious anyway because the old lore hinted at it all, but why they decided to retcon some things like savi being the one to find out about the godwave and not oryx is beyond me. The only thing savi did was listen to the worm that told her about the needle which oryx found and navigates to and piloted. The worm told her to dive, which they did and the leviathan told them to not pick the dark and wait for the light. Savi practically did nothing on fundament it was all oryx.
S tier: taken king, age of triumph, forsaken, season of opulence, season of arrivals, predicted place for witch queen A tier: house of wolves, rise of iron, warmind, black armoury, beyond light, season of the chosen, season of the lost B tier: D1 vanilla, D2 vanilla, shadowkeep, season of dawn, season of the worthy, season of the hunt, season of the splicer C tier: the dark below, season of the drifter, season of undying D tier: curse of Osiris I played them all so
I could definitely see this and prefer this much over the ranking in the vid. I'd only drop warmind and D1 vanilla one down from their current standing.
Curse of Osiris isn't worse than the pile of turd that was the Dark below. I'd put it up with the other C tier expansions. RoI also isn't better than SK, I'd switch places.
I’d put Opulence in S tier, fun 6 man activity with surprising great loot which u could manipulate via the runes. A new raid, the tribute hall was the Cherry on top. It was an incredible time for the game
Year one destiny and dark below were good days to look back on, but they’re definitely not A and B tier. Both were not worth their prices and both were shit on heavily for a reason. Probably the worst point destiny has ever been in
You are wrong and it’s not even a matter of opinions. D2 launch and CoO was the worst point in Destiny’s history by miles. D1 vanilla was over-hated just because people wanted to play more but it added literally everything. Every class, subclass, weapon, armor, destination, strike, crucible map, they were all new and people don’t appreciate that.
I would even argue to put black armory in the S tier! it has everything, amazing exotics (anarchy, le monarque, jotuun, izanagi), crazy complex puzzle Naomi lab, sick loots(both weapons and armors), it even had a raid! on top of all these the 4 forges were the best seasonal activity we have ever had apart from maybe the menagerie, no seasonal activities came after year 3 even remotely compared to the forges. Obviously black armory and season of opulence don't offer as much as full size expansions like forsaken or the witch queen, but for what they are, I think they are both worthy of being in the S tier, they are by far best in class, so much superior to all the seasons after year 3 that there really is no comparison.
You have some huge nostalgia goggles for base Destiny 1 and Dark Below. The amount of content in the base game was ridiculously low based on what was advertised, and Dark Below was the single worst expansion after Curse of Osiris. They were not good at launch. Destiny 2 Vanilla vs Destiny 1 Vanilla is so much better even with the god awful dual primaries
There's some nostalgia there but I'd argue just because something might not look good in hindsight doesn't mean it wasn't good at the time when things were simpler, people loved the dark below era at the time but comparing it to current content it will always seem lacking
Dark Below was way worse than Curse of Osiris, It had 3 bad story missions an okay strike and the worst raid in the game by a longshot. Let's not even talk about the joke of exotics it added with No Land Beyond, pre-rework Dragon's Breath, and pre-buff Necrochasm. Don't forget it preceded weapon and armor infusion so you had to regrind EVERYTHING and leave the stuff you liked behind just 3 months after the base game released. And the fuckin cherry on top was that you either had to re-earn or upgrade your exotics using a bunch of materials at Xur while hoping that one of the weapons you wanted to upgrade was in his inventory at the time. And then if you look at the story it was shit too, Eris was as one-dimensional as characters come when she was first introduced being just a revenge obsessed weirdo whose only role was to hand you your next mission while spewing nonsensical jargon in every line of dialogue. Curse of Osiris all things considered wasn't nearly as bad on it's own, it repeated most of the same failings as Dark Below but almost all of the beef that people have with the dlc was the bad direction that Destiny 2 had taken with it's launch that was still in the game at the time. The story was alright but the problem was the tone with Destiny 2 still trying to stick with the comical whimsy stuff instead of the high sci-fi fantasy we have now. But the raid it launched was great, most people think negatively of Eater of Worlds but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who didn't like the Argos fight (unlike Crota it mattered to have more than 1 person doing stuff). And the Perfect Paradox questline with the Tomb of Saint-14 remain as core highlights of Destiny and it directly lead to one of the best seasons we ever got as a direct continuation of the storyline. Comparing them the problems with Dark Below were problems that it itself brought with it, while the problems with Curse of Osiris were problems that had been established by Destiny 2's poor direction.
@@unknownplayer03 You are super blinded by nostalgia. People did NOT like the dark below era. Only a couple story missions and a raid that felt more like a strike, and only 1 strike. Dark below added nothing to the game, and only dug destiny’s grave deeper after it’s terrible launch, which you also seem to be blind to. It wasn’t hailed as one of the worst disappointments in gaming history for no reason. Boring and bad campaign, horrible grind, terrible mid game and even lacking late game. To put it above stuff like ROI is such a travesty.
This is so interesting because season 15 was my first season, and I’ve had a great time so far. Hearing about stuff I missed and about Destiny 1 in general is always fun.
i just dont understand how you put beyond light and the dark below on the same level. the dark below was really really bad in hindsight, the only saving graces being a vendor refresh and crota's end. even the small seasons nowadays have more content then that expansion
Not gonna lie, I wanna see someone rank these in alphabetical order. I feel like ghat would be pretty fun and chaotic, especially the ones that don’t start S-F
Great list. Honestly, I think season of the undying wasn’t as bad. I would probably put in the C ranking. Season of the Worthy, I would put it in the D ranking. Season of the Hunt, to me, is between C and D.
Destiny 1 base game at A tier? You are crazy man. The game and story were a C tier experience at best. Dark Below was another C tier. House of Wolves was B tier. Destiny 1 became S tier at Taken King, and following that releases were A tier. Destiny 2 has followed the exact same path. Base game was D tier. Curse of Osiris was F tier. Warmind was C tier. Forsaken was S tier. Shadow keep was C tier, Beyond Light was A tier.
He also put season of the Worthy as B tear which is absolutely insane. That season was universally regarded as utter trash by pretty much the entire player base.
Ain't no way The Dark Below is not in F tier. Also, House of Wolves is not better than Warmind. RoI is also at B tier with Shadowkeep. You seem to be very generous to D1, but you'd actually be amazed at how bad RoI and the other D1 expansion were if you look at them again. Objectively of course.
As a long destiny player I think that every destiny game, dlc, season is s tier. It’s just this game is so unique and it just brings so many memories especially taken king.
I can agree with pretty much everything except Season of the Worthy. That was definitely my all time low in Destiny. I couldn't stand that season. I played from Felwinters and The Fourth Horseman and nothing more
I agree with this. I hated how the main activity of the season was a public event that was a headache to complete. Same with arrivals, although that was arguably more fun.
I agree with most of the list expected season of arrivals I feel like it well deserves a spot in A tier as it had a lot of content that held us out pretty close to beyond light even when they kept pushing the release back it still felt like the season gave us some thing to grind
I hope for Destiny 3 they will keep all the content in the game as a player who started in 2021 and played Forsaken, Shadowkeep, Beyond Light, and Witch Queen and the year 5 seasons. I wish I could experience all that old content.
Agree with most of these ranking. I would put rise of iron in s tier. I loved the pve of the beyond light expansion. That was my first time playing D2 a lot since forsaken. However it was the beginning of the end for crucible. I have not really been able to consistently play crucible since Beyond light. Its a horrible gameplay mode. I have always felt bungie just needs to stick to expansion and then do the triumphs just to tide us over until the next expansion. The seasonal content just burns me out. Its just repeatable hoard mode activities thats boring. At this point Bungie is more about making cash than making quality focused content. However i hope there is an shift with Witch Queen.
Curse of Osiris was unironically one of my favorite DLCs. Loved the story, loved the location, LOVED the final bossfight with Panoptes. 10/10 expansion
Dawn has been the best season (non-expansion) in Destiny history for me. Crazy weapons, new archetypes, really cool activity, FANTASTIC story, and a super sick puzzle event that I think everyone forgot about for some reason.
I wish I played Destiny then, I took a break for 2-3 seasons and missed that one. It's a shame Destiny in a way just couldn't have all of its content without anything ever being deleted huh?
I think opulence and black armory could be in S tier, considering the immense amount of content they provided for only being a season. forges, menagerie, plus both of them had a raid(!) which you wouldn’t get in a simple season now EDIT: also niobe labs was such a great community puzzle
I started playing d2 in Curse of Osiris and from what I remember of it, it wasn’t too bad. Not as terrible as people make it out to be. Overall, I’ve played more d1 than d2 and I can confidently say that the Taken King was, and will be, the single best expansion in all of Destiny. It just edges out Forsaken for me because it basically saved d1.
Me and my dad played the destiny alpha and than played the real game on launch day. We made 2 different characters and would take turns playing. He was aways a hunter and I was aways a titan. Anyway my dad Eventually stopped playing until forsaken, and I never quit. I played from Launch all the way to black armory and than I quit. Now I returned and I made a new character and it’s a warlock which is a class I’ve never played and wow. Alot has changed and it’s very overwhelming.
Honestly I’d put splicer in A tier because it was very anticipating. Every week we would look forward to something new and drama to mix up (Osiris being more sus and lakshmi with the eliksni). Wonderful video!
Personal rankings. S tier. Ttk, forsaken A tier. Opulence, vanilla D2, B tier. House of wolves, dark below, dawn, arrivals, beyond light, splicer, vanilla d1 C tier. Shadowkeep, black armoury, warmind, D tier. Osiris, anniversary, undying Didn't play. Rise of iron, Age of triumph, chosen, lost, Absolute trash tier. Drifter, worthy, hunt
Beyond Light is one of my favorites solo because it was just so shocking and exciting. I never knew what would happen, ya know? The lore building of the darkness and such, was just an S tier for me. It made it crazy exciting. Witch Queen is obviously right behind it for me, it did most things right. Forsaken is third for me, for obvious reasons and then Shadowkeep (which is solely because of that final cut scene and that is the only reason lol. Most others are honestly A or B tiers, Curse of Osiris being the only one that I would say goes to being F tier
I think you're forgetting that Dark Below and House of Wolves were both already in Destiny 1 from the very beginning. Both DLC were in the game from the start, so no Bungie was not in a rush to produce them. They were just locked behind a future scheduled pay wall
That's a pretty gross oversimplification that's been spread around since the early days of D1. Parts of the DLC were already made, but it was almost entirely just a handful of zones that had to be glitched into. They obviously hadn't finished either DLC before D1 launched.
@@johnromero6315 not a gross oversimplification at all. Activision and Bungie even straight up admitted the DLC was just rehashed content that was cut from the original game (Excluding Prison of Elders). Dialogue, story threads, additional DLC areas on the map, & hell even the Vestian Outpost social space were all found months before the launch of either DLC
@@hylianglitchmobber7570 well yeah they're trying to stitch together something they ripped apart. Like VOG was made in an extremely short time and Croats End was originally part of a much larger raid they were going to make and they had to rework the story to make it work. I feel bad for the people working on it cause they felt the worst of it, trying to scrap together something the suits at the top didn't like.
@@thenedsmmachannel8970 that's true. Honestly VoG turned out pretty damn good too for being thrown together in such a rush as a last minute replacement raid. Even still, Activision did just rehash cut content and called it DLC
A lot of people forget that Shadowkeep brough a lot of quality of life changes (armor/mods) that Forsaken had started but was really enhanced with Shadowkeep. There was a big backend lift in addition to the playable content that people probably remember most. I would rank Shadowkeep at A tier just because it also pushed the story forward (light vs darkness) instead of just having random off stories.
i get your point but i always see it as if we didn't get shadowkeep we would have still gotten armour 2.0 and in my opinion shadowkeep is by far the weakest yearly expansion destiny has ever gotten
To me age of triumph was the absolute best time of destiny and nothing had or ever will come close, you had so much to grind for it just made the game so much fun
I'd put the 30th anniversary on A tier because of the crucible ability changes. It made things so much better. Shatterdive nerf, TTD nerf, different grenade cooldowns, etc
Rise of Iron will always be my favourite. I dont know why but the Young Wolf exotic quest is my most favourite of all time, something about the snow, music and firepits.
Wow it is crazy and both amazing to see how far Destiny has come. It almost seems like time is flying huh, I got into Destiny with the release of Destiny 2 I always wanted to play Destiny 1 but unfortunately did not have the time too at that point. The launch of Destiny 2 was rocky that I will say, it did lack content and certain features that I thought should have been there by default. However Forsaken expansion was a MASSIVE turning point and honestly ever since then I have been hooked into playing Destiny 2. I really am happy and glad that Bungie turned things around with Destiny and that it is heading in an amazing direction. Shoutout to their consistency and perseverance.
S+,TTK S, forsaken , rise of iron A, D2 launch, House of wolfs B, D1 launch, shadow keep C, warmind, D, dark below, curse of osiris X- I have only ranked the stuff I played, I stopped playing destiny after the forsaken DLC, and only just came back and haven't finished the last light dlc and witch queen is coming out today. Also I left before seasons became a thing and I haven't played much of season of the lost so I refrain from ranking it. I also rate The taken King as S+ because that DLC alone was my favorite and most likely saved the destiny franchise in the early years.
I personally think that Season of the Dawn is A-tier. Definitely was the best season of the Shadowkeep era. The lore, the trailer, the missions, the exotics, all the weapons from the sundial were great (unfortunately sunset) and Saint-14 coming back was really huge. All of this in about 3 months it was a really, really good season.
Started launch of D2, didnt play every season though so Im going to ignore the ones I didnt play. But my list rn at the time of making this comment would be smth like S: Forsaken, Witch Queen, Opulence, Haunted A: Plunder, Beyond Light (if you count it as including vaulting and sunsetting this is d, if only sunsetting, low b), 30th anni, Black Armory B: Warmind, vanilla launch, Shadowkeep C: Drifter D: Osiris
Witch Queen will be the next Forsaken/Taken King based on time and setup. I started playing right after Season of Opulence dropped, and I haven’t looked back :)
Taken king was a huge one for Bungie, it got loads of hype and that's where I started playing. I really didn't like the Destiny 2 launch and that's where I stopped playing but started again like a month ago and I'm really enjoying it again
Despite how small dark below was, it was definitely one of my more favourite DLC's, specifically for how fun the raid was, (yes I'm blinded by nostalgia because of it but nothing I can really do about that because the raid was just too good...) Honestly its quite fun remembering all those times your teammates would constantly grind the raid to get the gjallahorn (unless they do the VoG which was also a poggers raid which is now in D2 with slightly changed mechanics) It wasn't 'The best' but it wasn't 'The worst' either, the DLC's size did make it very lackluster but the raid was probably the only thing keeping the players interested in the DLC overall to which I can't blame them because Crota's End was a pretty good raid for what it was back then. In a way, dark below and curse of osiris share similarities, one had more story missions while the other didn't, one had a raid and the other didn't, and funny enough curse of osiris being destiny 2's first DLC does mirror the dark below quite a bit. But if I were to choose between dark below and curse of osiris, I'd definitely choose dark below, it just felt more alive compared to curse of osiris, metaphorically speaking.
TTK > Forsaken cuz I still feel like Forsakens campaign kinda sucked if you didn’t pay attention to the lore. And the boss sucked. Like some of the campaign was really good but a lot of the stuff with Uldren was unexplained if you didn’t know the lore.
I'd actually put Black Armory in S because the opening of Bergusia was such an epic moment for the community, involving so many people, it was amazing (even a little bit frustrating 😅). The weapons are still top tier. Yes, the quest for Izanagi was a little too tedious, but overall a great, great season.
Lets take a moment and recognize that Bungie evolved the FPS genre twice putting out multiple banger games that are targeted constantly with "killer" games yet still stand tall. It's the seal of quality I expect from a Bungie title and it's why i love the company.
I'd definitely put opulence and rise of iron in S tier. Opulence had the menagerie and a new raid, plus moments of triumph. Rise of iron had, imo, the greatest raid ever created and age of triumph.
You missed with season of opulence. Crown of Sorry was an incredible raid. Menagerie and heroic menagerie were top tier. And weapons were incredible. East S Tier. And it has the best title (Shadow)
i can agree with everything here, but for me Season of the splicer should be A-tier, storywise and lootwise one of the best seasons, we got to see Mithrax again, we finally fought Quria, the Osiristhûn and the City vs. Eliksni subplots were also pretty nice, tho I can agree the replayability of the seasonal activities went to hell by the end of the last month. (also, BABY ELIKSNI!!!)
I agree with this for the most part, except for Destiny 2. I loved the start of Destiny 2, it should be S tier. Though I ranked these mostly on story. That’s why I love Destiny 2 so much. I like the weapons more than Destiny 1, their was actually a good story, more cutscenes! I just like everything they added to the game like all the open world activities and the adventures, along with your Allie’s on each map you could go to, to level up with them to get exclusive gear from them. Few things I didn’t like, like the shader system, and crucible was a little plain. Other than that, I loved it. Especially the new supers!
Opinions, everyone has them :) I played D1 a little, never got to Vault of Glass as I was completely a solo player back then. But it was a lot of fun at the time. I enjoyed the 30th anniversary drop, although it got a little grindy in the middle there. That said, I eagerly await Witch Queen and hope it lives up to the hype.
I'm not sure where I'd rank every season but season of the dawn was the best season for me everything was perfect. Perfect story perfect characters amazing community puzzle with the corridors of time best seasonal activity with the coolest boss fights BEST complete set of weapons including the really cool exotics like Bastion and devils ruin along with their awesome quests amazing end of season event where you could trade in the token thing for weapons cool Live event even if it was slow like lots of seasons have had good weapons but literally every weapon in season of dawn was good so yeah it's definetely the best season as a whole like lots of seasons had good weapons but literally every weapon from season of dawn was good Steelfeather Repeater Martyrs retribution Breachlight Jack queen king line in the sand trophy Hunter Kimodo 4fr Pyroclastic flow and the most devestatingbthing is these got Sunset which is just so sad I wish they would have gone back one season on the sunsetting or they bring these back in the future but I guess they knew how good all these weapons are and it's so sad I will forever miss being able to use my god roll for Steelfeather he was my baby my pyroclastic flow Breachlight was fun in PvP but no they sunset it which is a shame but yeah as a season as an entire package season of dawn was THE BEST SEASON
Commenting this after witch Queen and I’m here to say witch queen is s-tier, the season of the risen tho is b-tier for me, but season of the haunted is a-s-tier (all my opinion of course). Also I think season of the chosen and season of arrivals are some of the 2 best seasons destiny has ever seen. I do think season of the hunt is underrated tho. We got crow, hawkmoon back, the story was good, and the nightmare hunt things were fun. Although the last mission never gave me the ship for some reason which I’m still salt about.
Personally I think splicer is better than chosen solely because of the return of VoG which put a much needed (kinda) new raid into to game. Before VoG2, d1 had more raids to play than d2 which was weird
Would've put vanilla in C maybe D tier. Would've thought this Would've been the opinion of most people. Sure it was the start. But the fact that part of what you complement TTK for is saving D1 and saying because D1 wasn't strong release. I don't see how you can say that a game that needed saving is A tier
I think his reasoning is based on how he felt at release. D1 definitely needed saving by the time TTK rolled around, but if vanilla hadn't been at least solid then there never would have been a TTK.
@@johnromero6315 Saying TTK is S tier because it saved a game isn't a good thing. Forsaken is S tier not because it saved the game, but because it also brought So. Fucking. Much to it. 2 destinations, a darker tone to a story with concequences taking place even now, Lat wish and the dreaming city, shattered throne, Last wish and the dreaming city, a new weapon archetype, last wish and the dreaming city, Raids having more of an impact on the world, last wish and the dreaming city, random rolls were back, Last wish and the dreaming city, ascendant challenges, Last wish and the dreaming city. Oh, and I really need to drive home just how fucking good Last wish and the dreaming city are. LW has some of the best encounters and mechanics in destiny raiding history, it honestly still has the best soundtrack, best environment and when the raid was beaten, the entire dreaming city changed and more content got added. (I know I said LW and the dreaming city multiple times, but I seriously need to emphasise that those 2 things alone beat the taken king) Forsaken is S tier because it just did so much, not just by saving the game, but by giving us so much in an instant, not to mention the seasons which made up for the taken King's absolutely attrocious content drought pre-april update. The Taken king is S tier because it saw D1 and put a plaster on the cut. The difference is so massive that I'd put TTK in A tier at most
I'd put the anniverary event to C tier. Only because of price and I just felt underwhelmed. I'd also put season of Arrivals in A tier because, I felt that it grabbed my attention more and actually kept me playing for most of the season. It was the first and so far only season I grinded and got to level 50 on the season pass on day one
For me Forsaken is THE Nr.1. One of best experience in my life, easily the best era in destiny. Taken King is almost a draw but IMO Forsaken was the best. Cayde vs Scorns was epic, last wish raid was epic, 9 new subclasses, good seasons, amazing weapons like Thorn, Last Word, etc, and the ANGER every played had after Cayde’s death, THE GAMBIT imo is the best competitive game mode in destiny, better than Crucible & Strike. Tangled Shore & Dreaming City. There’s so much to say about Forsaken, absolute unit.
I always feel that forsaken and taken king aren't as good, but the reason they are loved is because of one crucial thing people over look, they heavily changed the way we played destiny. Taken king redefined the play and loot style, and didn't nearly make it as grindy while still making us work for loot. Forsaken was the same. Don't think there bad dlcs in the slightest, just don't think they are as good as they were at launch. Imo, I don't think there is a dlc that's s-tier. In reality, every expansion was good for it's time, but In the long run, wouldn't be as well received if it was a current release (say flip rise of iron and taken king release dates). Seasons and mini expansion on the other hand are definitely a confusion ranking
I would put season of dawn in S tier. The sun dial, the infinite forest, and the storyline were great and the weapons and armor were so cool. Probably my favorite season alongside splicer
14:06 nah D1 dlcs had full vendor refreshes across the entire board. That’s something we’ve never gotten since and one of the reasons D2 will never compare to D1 for me
Rise of Iron deserves S Tier. It was rushed together and imo its better than Taken King. The trials gear alone was amazing, wrath of the machine, archons forge, old strikes coming back, brought back a lot of good old weapons but equally had a ton of great new weapons.
Im confused how unknown completly forgot about the raid 'scourage of the past' considering that it came out right after forsaken which also had a raid alongside all the other stuff.
What changes would you make to this tier list? 🤔
Flip Rise of Iron to S. Drop Forsaken to A. Forsaken was good but I think it's overjoyed. It fixed a lot of stuff but the locations of the Tangled Shore and Dreaming City were beautiful but not fleshed out with as much stuff to do as Mars was for Warming. Plus I think Wrath is a better overall raid than Last Wish.
I’m putting crota over frost hive and escalation protocol any day haha for it to be their first expansion ever which offered a short, but great raid, arguably one of the best armor sets for all classes and BLACK HAMMER. New story missions, introduction of using the hive sword around the world, Eris and so much more. All for $15. Easily A
season of arrivals needs to be looked at again.
you forgot the FREE prophecy dungeon that came out day 1
I would put curse higher coz it costed like 17 dollars and you got story raid etc. today you pay 40 dollars for the same amount of content.
I actually dunno why people hate curse.
For me personally, Shadowkeep, Season of the Chosen, and Vanilla D2 need to drop down to C Tier. I'd also probably bump Black Armory to S-Tier -- I've always thought of it as the most underrated dlc in the game's history. The biggest flaw was the three week content draught that happened before opening the forge. However, the secrets were a ton of fun. I remember all the hours I put in on Raidsecrets to work on the puzzles and Niobe Labs. Plus, Scourge of the Past was a good raid. It wasn't as lengthy as we'd have liked, but was 1000x better than Crown of Sorrow. We also got one of the most legendary weapons in the history of Destiny in Anarchy, another god-tier dps/pvp gun in Mountaintop, and other iconic exotics like Izanagi's Burden and Jotunn. Plus, like ya mentioned, the legendaries were great - Blast Furnace was a beast, Kindled Orchid was one of the best all purpose HC's in the game, and we can't forget about Threat Level or Spiteful Fang. Good times back then.
I think opulence is 100% S-Tier. Unfortunate that the studio making menagerie couldn’t stick around, but I really feel that it did about as much for the game as some of the bigger DLCs but to a lesser extent obviously due to being a season instead of DLC.
Thats a season not a DLC
@@jalespindeldreher7132 the video includes the dlcs and seasons
@@jalespindeldreher7132 read my comment again, I said it’s a season
@@jalespindeldreher7132 a season that felt like a DLC
YES. Opulence was literally the best season in Destiny history
I feel like the Infinite Forest was a missed opportunity for Destiny 2 to have some sort of Roguelite-ish mode. Could have lore implications with the Vex suppressing the Light of curious guardians and scattering their abilities across the Forest. Buffs, Debuffs and experimentation with mix-matching abilities across all subclasses could of made Curse of Osiris way more interesting.
That sounds cool. Which is why Bungie didn't do that. But now....now that Bungie has Sony money now. We may get awesome stuff like this.
I remember thinking thats what the Infinite Forest could have been like before the DLC launched. It seems like with the Shattered Realm in Season 15 Bungie may be more interested in the idea. I hope they are anyway, would be super cool and would fix people’s complaints of activities being too repetitive.
@@887Bingo the money is likely to fund building the new studio and hiring employees for other projects
The best expansions are Taken King and Forsaken, no debate.
And hopefully witch queen
Forsaken is 100% best story I have ever played and the exotics are s tier
Edit:don’t play the game anymore and I only like it because it was my first dlc I git
@@UNKNOWN-.-7641 I actually find it hard to call Forsaken the 'best'. It was a phenomenal drop, and definitely on of the best in the franchise's history. Arguably my favorite Destiny mem ory is of when I first cleared Shattered Throne, during week 1, and then did the Wish Ender quest on top of it. We played almost non-stop for days, and finished it while underpowered by 40-50.
That said, Forsaken had a lottt of issues too. We can't forget about the busted state of PvP, with OG Nova Warp running Rampant against launch-era OEM Titans. Plus, while the exotics were definitely awesome, the drop rates were some of the worst in the game's history. I only got ~5 new exotics during the Forsaken era, and thats pretty much in line with what my clanmates were getting. So yea, they were cool, but most players didn't get to try most of them until after the season ended.
Overall its definitely an S/A tier expansion, I just dont think its the best of the best
Everything else was mediocre
@@williamturner9450 well it's better than everything else. It's tied with the taken king lmao
To me Taken King has never been matched Forsaken came close but the lore, the secrets, the timing was amazing in TTK matter of fact i believe that if TTK was the first ever release of Destiny like instead of Vanilla it would have been GOTY or very close at least!!
100%
Let's just hope his sister can hold a candle to his dlc, she has potential to beat him but I doubt any dlc will
Really made the hive 1000% more interesting
@@josh6689 her sisters dlc completely changed the history of the jive
@@wolfgarthefirst5735 yeah in a weird way, they changed it so she led them into the deep and told them of the sizagy when it was oryx. I mean all the twists from the dlc were obvious anyway because the old lore hinted at it all, but why they decided to retcon some things like savi being the one to find out about the godwave and not oryx is beyond me.
The only thing savi did was listen to the worm that told her about the needle which oryx found and navigates to and piloted. The worm told her to dive, which they did and the leviathan told them to not pick the dark and wait for the light.
Savi practically did nothing on fundament it was all oryx.
S tier: taken king, age of triumph, forsaken, season of opulence, season of arrivals, predicted place for witch queen
A tier: house of wolves, rise of iron, warmind, black armoury, beyond light, season of the chosen, season of the lost
B tier: D1 vanilla, D2 vanilla, shadowkeep, season of dawn, season of the worthy, season of the hunt, season of the splicer
C tier: the dark below, season of the drifter, season of undying
D tier: curse of Osiris
I played them all so
I could definitely see this and prefer this much over the ranking in the vid. I'd only drop warmind and D1 vanilla one down from their current standing.
I like this a lot more than the rankings in the vid. Only difference I'd prefer is bumping up splicer and down worthy and hunt.
Warning: WQ is S tier
Season of Arrivals had the potential to be one of the best seasons but the delay of BL killed it. There was a good 6 weeks where nothing happened.
Curse of Osiris isn't worse than the pile of turd that was the Dark below. I'd put it up with the other C tier expansions. RoI also isn't better than SK, I'd switch places.
I’d put Opulence in S tier, fun 6 man activity with surprising great loot which u could manipulate via the runes. A new raid, the tribute hall was the Cherry on top. It was an incredible time for the game
Year one destiny and dark below were good days to look back on, but they’re definitely not A and B tier. Both were not worth their prices and both were shit on heavily for a reason. Probably the worst point destiny has ever been in
Destiny 2 launch was the worst year of destiny history.
@@moonchild1313us that plus curse of Osiris. They made me never want to play a destiny game again.
Year 2 D1 the best
You are wrong and it’s not even a matter of opinions. D2 launch and CoO was the worst point in Destiny’s history by miles.
D1 vanilla was over-hated just because people wanted to play more but it added literally everything. Every class, subclass, weapon, armor, destination, strike, crucible map, they were all new and people don’t appreciate that.
Black armoury definitely an A tier. Weapons and armour were great. Raid also ✌️👍
best title ever too, imo
blacksmith is such a humble yet gangster title. sad i will never be able to get it.
I would even argue to put black armory in the S tier! it has everything, amazing exotics (anarchy, le monarque, jotuun, izanagi), crazy complex puzzle Naomi lab, sick loots(both weapons and armors), it even had a raid! on top of all these the 4 forges were the best seasonal activity we have ever had apart from maybe the menagerie, no seasonal activities came after year 3 even remotely compared to the forges. Obviously black armory and season of opulence don't offer as much as full size expansions like forsaken or the witch queen, but for what they are, I think they are both worthy of being in the S tier, they are by far best in class, so much superior to all the seasons after year 3 that there really is no comparison.
You have some huge nostalgia goggles for base Destiny 1 and Dark Below. The amount of content in the base game was ridiculously low based on what was advertised, and Dark Below was the single worst expansion after Curse of Osiris. They were not good at launch. Destiny 2 Vanilla vs Destiny 1 Vanilla is so much better even with the god awful dual primaries
There's some nostalgia there but I'd argue just because something might not look good in hindsight doesn't mean it wasn't good at the time when things were simpler, people loved the dark below era at the time but comparing it to current content it will always seem lacking
Dark Below was way worse than Curse of Osiris, It had 3 bad story missions an okay strike and the worst raid in the game by a longshot. Let's not even talk about the joke of exotics it added with No Land Beyond, pre-rework Dragon's Breath, and pre-buff Necrochasm. Don't forget it preceded weapon and armor infusion so you had to regrind EVERYTHING and leave the stuff you liked behind just 3 months after the base game released. And the fuckin cherry on top was that you either had to re-earn or upgrade your exotics using a bunch of materials at Xur while hoping that one of the weapons you wanted to upgrade was in his inventory at the time. And then if you look at the story it was shit too, Eris was as one-dimensional as characters come when she was first introduced being just a revenge obsessed weirdo whose only role was to hand you your next mission while spewing nonsensical jargon in every line of dialogue.
Curse of Osiris all things considered wasn't nearly as bad on it's own, it repeated most of the same failings as Dark Below but almost all of the beef that people have with the dlc was the bad direction that Destiny 2 had taken with it's launch that was still in the game at the time. The story was alright but the problem was the tone with Destiny 2 still trying to stick with the comical whimsy stuff instead of the high sci-fi fantasy we have now. But the raid it launched was great, most people think negatively of Eater of Worlds but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who didn't like the Argos fight (unlike Crota it mattered to have more than 1 person doing stuff). And the Perfect Paradox questline with the Tomb of Saint-14 remain as core highlights of Destiny and it directly lead to one of the best seasons we ever got as a direct continuation of the storyline.
Comparing them the problems with Dark Below were problems that it itself brought with it, while the problems with Curse of Osiris were problems that had been established by Destiny 2's poor direction.
not even close, d2 vanilla was Horrible
@@unknownplayer03 You are super blinded by nostalgia. People did NOT like the dark below era. Only a couple story missions and a raid that felt more like a strike, and only 1 strike. Dark below added nothing to the game, and only dug destiny’s grave deeper after it’s terrible launch, which you also seem to be blind to. It wasn’t hailed as one of the worst disappointments in gaming history for no reason. Boring and bad campaign, horrible grind, terrible mid game and even lacking late game. To put it above stuff like ROI is such a travesty.
@@forebread9405 Take into account that it’s his opinion. Make your own list if his is this upsetting for you.
This is so interesting because season 15 was my first season, and I’ve had a great time so far. Hearing about stuff I missed and about Destiny 1 in general is always fun.
I hope you stick around, guardian. I know that the barrier to entry is whack and that you’re probably really confused in what’s going on
Ngl I miss destiny 1 so many great memories I wish they had ported it to pc instead of making 2
i just dont understand how you put beyond light and the dark below on the same level. the dark below was really really bad in hindsight, the only saving graces being a vendor refresh and crota's end. even the small seasons nowadays have more content then that expansion
Not gonna lie, I wanna see someone rank these in alphabetical order. I feel like ghat would be pretty fun and chaotic, especially the ones that don’t start S-F
Wait you do realize that means Shadowkeep would be S-tier and Forsaken would be F-tier 👀
@@trickytreyperfected1482 Yeah bug F is higher up than S on the alphabet....
Great list. Honestly, I think season of the undying wasn’t as bad. I would probably put in the C ranking. Season of the Worthy, I would put it in the D ranking. Season of the Hunt, to me, is between C and D.
I think opulence was my favorite time in destiny 2. i personally liked the raid. I loved the lore, feeling, and gear of that season.
Honestly I’d probably put some things down a bit and also move 30th anniversary up to A and opulence to S but it’s a pretty good list
Destiny 1 base game at A tier? You are crazy man. The game and story were a C tier experience at best. Dark Below was another C tier. House of Wolves was B tier. Destiny 1 became S tier at Taken King, and following that releases were A tier.
Destiny 2 has followed the exact same path. Base game was D tier. Curse of Osiris was F tier. Warmind was C tier. Forsaken was S tier. Shadow keep was C tier, Beyond Light was A tier.
He also put season of the Worthy as B tear which is absolutely insane. That season was universally regarded as utter trash by pretty much the entire player base.
Ain't no way The Dark Below is not in F tier. Also, House of Wolves is not better than Warmind. RoI is also at B tier with Shadowkeep. You seem to be very generous to D1, but you'd actually be amazed at how bad RoI and the other D1 expansion were if you look at them again. Objectively of course.
As a long destiny player I think that every destiny game, dlc, season is s tier. It’s just this game is so unique and it just brings so many memories especially taken king.
I can agree with pretty much everything except Season of the Worthy. That was definitely my all time low in Destiny. I couldn't stand that season. I played from Felwinters and The Fourth Horseman and nothing more
I agree with this. I hated how the main activity of the season was a public event that was a headache to complete. Same with arrivals, although that was arguably more fun.
I went back to d1 after i got all the missable items from season of the worthy
@@ThePresidentofMars very upset because I loved the ornaments from worthy but I could not bring myself to touch it
I agree with most of the list expected season of arrivals I feel like it well deserves a spot in A tier as it had a lot of content that held us out pretty close to beyond light even when they kept pushing the release back it still felt like the season gave us some thing to grind
hot take: red war was in my opinion the coolest campaign in d2. I loved it sm I replayed the beginning so many times
I hope for Destiny 3 they will keep all the content in the game as a player who started in 2021 and played Forsaken, Shadowkeep, Beyond Light, and Witch Queen and the year 5 seasons. I wish I could experience all that old content.
D3 won’t be coming out they will just keep updating d2
@@cedrichenry3129 I'm saying whenever they do.
Agree with most of these ranking. I would put rise of iron in s tier. I loved the pve of the beyond light expansion. That was my first time playing D2 a lot since forsaken. However it was the beginning of the end for crucible. I have not really been able to consistently play crucible since Beyond light. Its a horrible gameplay mode.
I have always felt bungie just needs to stick to expansion and then do the triumphs just to tide us over until the next expansion.
The seasonal content just burns me out. Its just repeatable hoard mode activities thats boring. At this point Bungie is more about making cash than making quality focused content. However i hope there is an shift with Witch Queen.
Curse of Osiris was unironically one of my favorite DLCs. Loved the story, loved the location, LOVED the final bossfight with Panoptes. 10/10 expansion
Dawn has been the best season (non-expansion) in Destiny history for me. Crazy weapons, new archetypes, really cool activity, FANTASTIC story, and a super sick puzzle event that I think everyone forgot about for some reason.
I wish I played Destiny then, I took a break for 2-3 seasons and missed that one. It's a shame Destiny in a way just couldn't have all of its content without anything ever being deleted huh?
I think opulence and black armory could be in S tier, considering the immense amount of content they provided for only being a season. forges, menagerie, plus both of them had a raid(!) which you wouldn’t get in a simple season now
EDIT: also niobe labs was such a great community puzzle
Unknown Player: Forsaken was the taken king of Destiny 2.
Witch Queen: Hold my beer.
Dont think something can beat forsaken content wise, nearly impossible
I started to play from Rise of Iron, met a couple of players I grinded into D2 lauch through Forsaken year release… great memories and laughter
I started playing d2 in Curse of Osiris and from what I remember of it, it wasn’t too bad. Not as terrible as people make it out to be. Overall, I’ve played more d1 than d2 and I can confidently say that the Taken King was, and will be, the single best expansion in all of Destiny. It just edges out Forsaken for me because it basically saved d1.
(Energy sword)
1 Mail ability: honor guard = get a over shield after 5 kills.
2: melee attack.
3:Eager egde.
4:element swap
(Soler)
(Aric)
(Void)
Catalyst: crouching Grinch invisibility
600 kills
Me and my dad played the destiny alpha and than played the real game on launch day.
We made 2 different characters and would take turns playing.
He was aways a hunter and I was aways a titan.
Anyway my dad Eventually stopped playing until forsaken, and I never quit.
I played from Launch all the way to black armory and than I quit. Now I returned and I made a new character and it’s a warlock which is a class I’ve never played and wow.
Alot has changed and it’s very overwhelming.
Honestly I’d put splicer in A tier because it was very anticipating. Every week we would look forward to something new and drama to mix up (Osiris being more sus and lakshmi with the eliksni). Wonderful video!
Personal rankings.
S tier. Ttk, forsaken
A tier. Opulence, vanilla D2,
B tier. House of wolves, dark below, dawn, arrivals, beyond light, splicer, vanilla d1
C tier. Shadowkeep, black armoury, warmind,
D tier. Osiris, anniversary, undying
Didn't play. Rise of iron, Age of triumph, chosen, lost,
Absolute trash tier. Drifter, worthy, hunt
Beyond Light is one of my favorites solo because it was just so shocking and exciting. I never knew what would happen, ya know? The lore building of the darkness and such, was just an S tier for me. It made it crazy exciting. Witch Queen is obviously right behind it for me, it did most things right. Forsaken is third for me, for obvious reasons and then Shadowkeep (which is solely because of that final cut scene and that is the only reason lol. Most others are honestly A or B tiers, Curse of Osiris being the only one that I would say goes to being F tier
Taken king might’ve been one of the best fucking times of my life
Easy! I still remember vividly that time of my gaming journey, it was beyond great
I think you're forgetting that Dark Below and House of Wolves were both already in Destiny 1 from the very beginning. Both DLC were in the game from the start, so no Bungie was not in a rush to produce them. They were just locked behind a future scheduled pay wall
That's a pretty gross oversimplification that's been spread around since the early days of D1. Parts of the DLC were already made, but it was almost entirely just a handful of zones that had to be glitched into. They obviously hadn't finished either DLC before D1 launched.
@@johnromero6315 not a gross oversimplification at all. Activision and Bungie even straight up admitted the DLC was just rehashed content that was cut from the original game (Excluding Prison of Elders). Dialogue, story threads, additional DLC areas on the map, & hell even the Vestian Outpost social space were all found months before the launch of either DLC
@@hylianglitchmobber7570 well yeah they're trying to stitch together something they ripped apart. Like VOG was made in an extremely short time and Croats End was originally part of a much larger raid they were going to make and they had to rework the story to make it work. I feel bad for the people working on it cause they felt the worst of it, trying to scrap together something the suits at the top didn't like.
@@thenedsmmachannel8970 that's true. Honestly VoG turned out pretty damn good too for being thrown together in such a rush as a last minute replacement raid. Even still, Activision did just rehash cut content and called it DLC
This new one is S tier for sure.
speaking of Mars, I literally miss Mars so much bruh, like I loved doing escalation protocol it was literally my favorite public event to do in d2
Best DLCS
1. Taken King
2. Forsaken
3. Witch Queen
A lot of people forget that Shadowkeep brough a lot of quality of life changes (armor/mods) that Forsaken had started but was really enhanced with Shadowkeep. There was a big backend lift in addition to the playable content that people probably remember most. I would rank Shadowkeep at A tier just because it also pushed the story forward (light vs darkness) instead of just having random off stories.
i get your point but i always see it as if we didn't get shadowkeep we would have still gotten armour 2.0 and in my opinion shadowkeep is by far the weakest yearly expansion destiny has ever gotten
All of the destiny 1 dlcs were absolutely amazing
havent watched ur vids in a while since I stopped playing destiny 2 but man hearing you again brings back nostalgia
To me age of triumph was the absolute best time of destiny and nothing had or ever will come close, you had so much to grind for it just made the game so much fun
I don’t think that dark below was their hardest work crunch, as I think that title goes to halo 2
True!
Well most of bungie that worked on Halo is gone now, which might explain the downgrades of the games in general.
I'd put the 30th anniversary on A tier because of the crucible ability changes. It made things so much better. Shatterdive nerf, TTD nerf, different grenade cooldowns, etc
Loved Rise of Iron, shame that the main story was short
Rise of Iron will always be my favourite. I dont know why but the Young Wolf exotic quest is my most favourite of all time, something about the snow, music and firepits.
Witch Queen is definitely S tier
Wow it is crazy and both amazing to see how far Destiny has come. It almost seems like time is flying huh, I got into Destiny with the release of Destiny 2 I always wanted to play Destiny 1 but unfortunately did not have the time too at that point.
The launch of Destiny 2 was rocky that I will say, it did lack content and certain features that I thought should have been there by default. However Forsaken expansion was a MASSIVE turning point and honestly ever since then I have been hooked into playing Destiny 2. I really am happy and glad that Bungie turned things around with Destiny and that it is heading in an amazing direction. Shoutout to their consistency and perseverance.
S+,TTK
S, forsaken , rise of iron
A, D2 launch, House of wolfs
B, D1 launch, shadow keep
C, warmind,
D, dark below, curse of osiris
X- I have only ranked the stuff I played, I stopped playing destiny after the forsaken DLC, and only just came back and haven't finished the last light dlc and witch queen is coming out today.
Also I left before seasons became a thing and I haven't played much of season of the lost so I refrain from ranking it.
I also rate The taken King as S+ because that DLC alone was my favorite and most likely saved the destiny franchise in the early years.
I personally think that Season of the Dawn is A-tier. Definitely was the best season of the Shadowkeep era. The lore, the trailer, the missions, the exotics, all the weapons from the sundial were great (unfortunately sunset) and Saint-14 coming back was really huge. All of this in about 3 months it was a really, really good season.
I have been playing this game since the Dark Below, and it’s amazing how far this game has come
I personally enjoyed curse of Osiris especially for time constraints
Started launch of D2, didnt play every season though so Im going to ignore the ones I didnt play. But my list rn at the time of making this comment would be smth like
S: Forsaken, Witch Queen, Opulence, Haunted
A: Plunder, Beyond Light (if you count it as including vaulting and sunsetting this is d, if only sunsetting, low b), 30th anni, Black Armory
B: Warmind, vanilla launch, Shadowkeep
C: Drifter
D: Osiris
The Taken King is arguably one of the greatest revivals we’ve ever seen in a video game
Witch Queen will be the next Forsaken/Taken King based on time and setup. I started playing right after Season of Opulence dropped, and I haven’t looked back :)
After Witch Queen coming out I think it’s a solid S tier: (edit) so far
It’s the best dlc.
With grindable raids, Season of Arrivals was hard S or at least A tier for me.
+ prophecy dungeon so yeah s tier
Taken king was a huge one for Bungie, it got loads of hype and that's where I started playing.
I really didn't like the Destiny 2 launch and that's where I stopped playing but started again like a month ago and I'm really enjoying it again
You got yourself a new Subscription! I adore you for putting my Favorite Dlc Forsaken In S Tier. It is STILL my favorite DLC in 2022!
Despite how small dark below was, it was definitely one of my more favourite DLC's, specifically for how fun the raid was, (yes I'm blinded by nostalgia because of it but nothing I can really do about that because the raid was just too good...)
Honestly its quite fun remembering all those times your teammates would constantly grind the raid to get the gjallahorn (unless they do the VoG which was also a poggers raid which is now in D2 with slightly changed mechanics)
It wasn't 'The best' but it wasn't 'The worst' either, the DLC's size did make it very lackluster but the raid was probably the only thing keeping the players interested in the DLC overall to which I can't blame them because Crota's End was a pretty good raid for what it was back then.
In a way, dark below and curse of osiris share similarities, one had more story missions while the other didn't, one had a raid and the other didn't, and funny enough curse of osiris being destiny 2's first DLC does mirror the dark below quite a bit.
But if I were to choose between dark below and curse of osiris, I'd definitely choose dark below, it just felt more alive compared to curse of osiris, metaphorically speaking.
Love your content man! Wish you put more out!
Thanks, more to come!
@@unknownplayer03 AWESOME!
Dawn in B tier is nothing short of heresy. It is at minimum A tier. The story was amazing, the weapons were sick and the activity was super fun.
TTK > Forsaken cuz I still feel like Forsakens campaign kinda sucked if you didn’t pay attention to the lore. And the boss sucked. Like some of the campaign was really good but a lot of the stuff with Uldren was unexplained if you didn’t know the lore.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the deep stone crypt raid for Beyond Light
Beyond Light was a blessing and curse for this game. Stasis subclasses are beyond OP.
I'd actually put Black Armory in S because the opening of Bergusia was such an epic moment for the community, involving so many people, it was amazing (even a little bit frustrating 😅).
The weapons are still top tier. Yes, the quest for Izanagi was a little too tedious, but overall a great, great season.
Plus sotp
S tear is Taken King by far.
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Sucks that the raid is bad
@@woot2830 kings fall great raid even tho its stand on plate simulator. Felt so epic at the time
@@trippy5519 no ur wrong
@@woot2830 sorry my opinion is always right
I really hope this DLC brings you back to making more videos. Warmind season may not of been the best but your weekly videos made the season so great
Haven’t watched your content since like 2015/16 so watching a few of your videos rn feels like going through a time warp
One of the few lists you've done where i pretty much completely agreed.
Lets take a moment and recognize that Bungie evolved the FPS genre twice putting out multiple banger games that are targeted constantly with "killer" games yet still stand tall. It's the seal of quality I expect from a Bungie title and it's why i love the company.
I'd definitely put opulence and rise of iron in S tier. Opulence had the menagerie and a new raid, plus moments of triumph. Rise of iron had, imo, the greatest raid ever created and age of triumph.
You missed with season of opulence. Crown of Sorry was an incredible raid. Menagerie and heroic menagerie were top tier. And weapons were incredible. East S Tier. And it has the best title (Shadow)
i can agree with everything here, but for me Season of the splicer should be A-tier, storywise and lootwise one of the best seasons, we got to see Mithrax again, we finally fought Quria, the Osiristhûn and the City vs. Eliksni subplots were also pretty nice, tho I can agree the replayability of the seasonal activities went to hell by the end of the last month.
(also, BABY ELIKSNI!!!)
not just that but the payoff from the eliksni story was so good
I agree with this for the most part, except for Destiny 2. I loved the start of Destiny 2, it should be S tier. Though I ranked these mostly on story. That’s why I love Destiny 2 so much. I like the weapons more than Destiny 1, their was actually a good story, more cutscenes! I just like everything they added to the game like all the open world activities and the adventures, along with your Allie’s on each map you could go to, to level up with them to get exclusive gear from them. Few things I didn’t like, like the shader system, and crucible was a little plain. Other than that, I loved it. Especially the new supers!
I remember when I first got destiny and it was by accident but I don’t regret it
I started during House of Wolves, one month before Taken King. Such fun times
the april update back in d1 was prob my favorite time period in all of destiny ngl
Age of triumph was peak destiny best times I’ve ever had throughout it all
Opinions, everyone has them :)
I played D1 a little, never got to Vault of Glass as I was completely a solo player back then. But it was a lot of fun at the time.
I enjoyed the 30th anniversary drop, although it got a little grindy in the middle there.
That said, I eagerly await Witch Queen and hope it lives up to the hype.
I'm not sure where I'd rank every season but season of the dawn was the best season for me everything was perfect. Perfect story perfect characters amazing community puzzle with the corridors of time best seasonal activity with the coolest boss fights BEST complete set of weapons including the really cool exotics like Bastion and devils ruin along with their awesome quests amazing end of season event where you could trade in the token thing for weapons cool Live event even if it was slow like lots of seasons have had good weapons but literally every weapon in season of dawn was good so yeah it's definetely the best season as a whole like lots of seasons had good weapons but literally every weapon from season of dawn was good Steelfeather Repeater Martyrs retribution Breachlight Jack queen king line in the sand trophy Hunter Kimodo 4fr Pyroclastic flow and the most devestatingbthing is these got Sunset which is just so sad I wish they would have gone back one season on the sunsetting or they bring these back in the future but I guess they knew how good all these weapons are and it's so sad I will forever miss being able to use my god roll for Steelfeather he was my baby my pyroclastic flow Breachlight was fun in PvP but no they sunset it which is a shame but yeah as a season as an entire package season of dawn was THE BEST SEASON
I'd put season of arrivals in A tier or even S tier but I'm biased cause that's when I really started getting back in to destiny
Commenting this after witch Queen and I’m here to say witch queen is s-tier, the season of the risen tho is b-tier for me, but season of the haunted is a-s-tier (all my opinion of course). Also I think season of the chosen and season of arrivals are some of the 2 best seasons destiny has ever seen. I do think season of the hunt is underrated tho. We got crow, hawkmoon back, the story was good, and the nightmare hunt things were fun. Although the last mission never gave me the ship for some reason which I’m still salt about.
Personally I think splicer is better than chosen solely because of the return of VoG which put a much needed (kinda) new raid into to game. Before VoG2, d1 had more raids to play than d2 which was weird
Witch queen def s tier now 😍😍😍
Would've put vanilla in C maybe D tier. Would've thought this Would've been the opinion of most people. Sure it was the start.
But the fact that part of what you complement TTK for is saving D1 and saying because D1 wasn't strong release. I don't see how you can say that a game that needed saving is A tier
I think his reasoning is based on how he felt at release. D1 definitely needed saving by the time TTK rolled around, but if vanilla hadn't been at least solid then there never would have been a TTK.
@John Romero sure but solid is like a 6/10.
@@johnromero6315 Saying TTK is S tier because it saved a game isn't a good thing. Forsaken is S tier not because it saved the game, but because it also brought So. Fucking. Much to it. 2 destinations, a darker tone to a story with concequences taking place even now, Lat wish and the dreaming city, shattered throne, Last wish and the dreaming city, a new weapon archetype, last wish and the dreaming city, Raids having more of an impact on the world, last wish and the dreaming city, random rolls were back, Last wish and the dreaming city, ascendant challenges, Last wish and the dreaming city. Oh, and I really need to drive home just how fucking good Last wish and the dreaming city are. LW has some of the best encounters and mechanics in destiny raiding history, it honestly still has the best soundtrack, best environment and when the raid was beaten, the entire dreaming city changed and more content got added. (I know I said LW and the dreaming city multiple times, but I seriously need to emphasise that those 2 things alone beat the taken king)
Forsaken is S tier because it just did so much, not just by saving the game, but by giving us so much in an instant, not to mention the seasons which made up for the taken King's absolutely attrocious content drought pre-april update.
The Taken king is S tier because it saw D1 and put a plaster on the cut. The difference is so massive that I'd put TTK in A tier at most
I'd put the anniverary event to C tier. Only because of price and I just felt underwhelmed. I'd also put season of Arrivals in A tier because, I felt that it grabbed my attention more and actually kept me playing for most of the season. It was the first and so far only season I grinded and got to level 50 on the season pass on day one
Bro the taken king story was so dope!
For me Forsaken is THE Nr.1. One of best experience in my life, easily the best era in destiny. Taken King is almost a draw but IMO Forsaken was the best. Cayde vs Scorns was epic, last wish raid was epic, 9 new subclasses, good seasons, amazing weapons like Thorn, Last Word, etc, and the ANGER every played had after Cayde’s death, THE GAMBIT imo is the best competitive game mode in destiny, better than Crucible & Strike. Tangled Shore & Dreaming City. There’s so much to say about Forsaken, absolute unit.
I always feel that forsaken and taken king aren't as good, but the reason they are loved is because of one crucial thing people over look, they heavily changed the way we played destiny. Taken king redefined the play and loot style, and didn't nearly make it as grindy while still making us work for loot. Forsaken was the same. Don't think there bad dlcs in the slightest, just don't think they are as good as they were at launch. Imo, I don't think there is a dlc that's s-tier. In reality, every expansion was good for it's time, but In the long run, wouldn't be as well received if it was a current release (say flip rise of iron and taken king release dates). Seasons and mini expansion on the other hand are definitely a confusion ranking
My favorites are house of wolves, dark below, taken King, forsaken, and beyond light.
Taken King is #1 hands down Forsaken is a close 2nd with Rise of Iron/age of triumph in 3rd
I would put season of dawn in S tier. The sun dial, the infinite forest, and the storyline were great and the weapons and armor were so cool. Probably my favorite season alongside splicer
You're kind of blinded by nostalgic feelings cuz house of wolf's was underwhelming and the dark blow had a bad reaction.....
So many memories locked in to one game. Rise of Iron was my favorite. Cheers.
14:06 nah D1 dlcs had full vendor refreshes across the entire board. That’s something we’ve never gotten since and one of the reasons D2 will never compare to D1 for me
Rise of Iron deserves S Tier. It was rushed together and imo its better than Taken King. The trials gear alone was amazing, wrath of the machine, archons forge, old strikes coming back, brought back a lot of good old weapons but equally had a ton of great new weapons.
Im confused how unknown completly forgot about the raid 'scourage of the past' considering that it came out right after forsaken which also had a raid alongside all the other stuff.
TTK should be in a tier of its own. It was the pinnacle of destiny without a doubt