Dark Drinker is definitely S tier. And I would argue black spindle too, since it was the best weapon for a lot of raid encounters. Year 1 Suros Regime was so damn good too
Black spindle was very good for Kings Fall, but it became obsolete as Ex Machina basically became flat out better than it(in most situations) plus it was a legendary sniper, allowing you to use a different exotic if the option presented itself. I’d say Black Spindle is good on A tier, but yea I was shocked Dark Drinker wasn’t immediately put to S tier
LowMan Josh Yea and I totally agree with you on that front, which is why it’s so good in King’s Fall. But other then that, that’s about it, because it gets outclassed in VOG by Sleeper + Ex Machina combo for both Templar and Atheon; There’s almost no way you can use it effectively in Crota’s End(compared to other exotics); and Wrath of the Machines it has one chance with Vosik, but Ex Machina wins again because of its bonus damage to fallen, allowing it to surpass as not only a legendary sniper outclassing an exotic in almost every way, but even more so when you consider that the exotic slot is then open for you to use. Even in things like strokes or nightfalls, Ex Machina is still the best pick for reasons mentioned above. But I do agree that Kong’s Fall is where it really shines in DPS output, especially in Golgoroth. But the only other place you can really use it is in Warpriest, which MIGHT have been outclassed by Sleeper and Ex Machina(but I’m not entirely sure on that).
@@aidenation101 I would agree in most cases against fallen . But sleeper in d1 didn't split on ricochet like d2 only thing that was special about it was it being a heavy single shot fusion that hit crits when tbh. Dps on black spindle and a cluster rocket worked just as well if not better. Only time I pulled sleeper out in any raid was templar every encounter it's black spindle outside of daughters cause of flinch and hands .. (so touch of malice is used sometimes)
Mind you between my launch account on xbox and my ps4 (which I have 1500+ hours on my titan alone on) I still raid weekly with my clan. We all hate d2 but still play d1.
@@crab_striker1961 ice breaker came back in rise of iron. i didn’t play it so correct me if i’m wrong but i think you had to to vanguard bounties and you had a chance to get it
Bro, sleeper is sold S just due to raw damage output on critical hits. It was a solid raid weapon. if you ran a 6 man with sleeper you could finish the raid in like 2 rounds.
Idk if your going to reply but Sleeper should be like S+ tier Sleeper is the end all be all of guns in destiny 1- you do not know how much my friends were impressed by it- not to mention the easy quest line- the hard part is getting all the dvalin things- if your lazy just look up the answers to the codes. Sleeper carried me through multiple raids, strikes, everything!
yea the gally and ice breaker were really the only S weapons in my opinon, red death was up there too after it got buffed. that was my main pvp and in the rotation for main pve weapons as well. dont know why he put it in b teir
I wanna know what this guy was smoking when he said Suros Regime is better in D2 It was god-tier in D1, one of the go-to, most used exotics in year 1. In D2 i NEVER see anyone using the Suros Regime.
@@johndavis8746 Cuz thorn was just iconic on year 1 (same as Suros Regime), what happened is that on year 2 or 3 it just not surprise and make people grind for it, let's accept it, thorn just was not that good on year 3.
@@ethansalters8843 Yeah, u gotta charge the snipe before aiming at someone, treat it like a fusion, its aim assist is insane as soon as u start charging it
Unknown: "I'm looking over all 3 years, not just the first or last." Puts Vex Mythoclast in S tier despite being nerfed into the ground. Me: "... biased Barry."
Yeah I had no idea what he was talking about. Sleeper was THE exotic heavy for d1 year 2 and even 3 to some extent. It was way worse in d2 I haven’t even seen anyone use it in years.
@@dumbo3529 its not an opinion already puts no land in c tier even saying it is terrable but puts Fabian strategy in F tier thats why i dont watch unkmown player anymore just got recommended this and 4th horseman is d tier at best i always used sum else than that u prob never played d1
We have our D1 PvP kings and PvE Kings Half, Aksis Bake, Duality, and WhiteWidow have found a way to solo nearly every raid boss except Atheon and Warprest/Golgeroth. PvP kinda varies
Was searching for this queen breaker was a fucking beast and so was pre nerf lord of wolves those guns were a menace in crucible so much so they got nerfed into the floor
“I just started reloading that gun in 2015 and I think it just finished now.” Bro that freakin’ KILLED me! I wish Zaouli’s Bane functioned as good as it looked, I always loved the look of that gun
See my thing with this list is there are some exotics in the list that your just to biased about, pocket infinity deserves s tier due to the fact bungie literally said it's never coming back, and fabien strategy was garbage for a long time, but it did get buffed to have insane damage when people got near, but for the most part I agree
I think he's just biased against fusion rifles in general, Sleeper Simulant should be higher, Plan C I'd say at least deserves C tier too. There was a time in crucible where fusion rifles were super OP and that thing was in every single match.
@@TheRivs80 bro it was only good for one encounter in a raid (which was the very last part of crota) which doesn’t make the gun S tier at all, literally all it did was heal you, other than that the gun stats was trash and outclassed by every other pulse rifle and exotic
That’s only if that’s the perks, overall i would put it in C MAX, wasn’t that great overall over the years and once you fire off those first few it’s kinda meh
I think he forgot that queenbreakers literally snapped to heads and they changed special ammo which made no land have a place, epically when paired with a sidearm
11:21 yo that line was SAVAGE BRO! Also hecc for B tier sleeper simulant, I feel knocked down a peg. I'm gonna have to find some form of therapy for the legendaries tier list if you do that xD I really miss this game, wish it didn't move so fast at it's end stages to write itself off :/
I actually went back to D1 recently and became really good with some weapons I never used. Necrocasm is extremely good in crucible, and learning how to use NLB makes you the most deadly player in the match. People also use the raid exotics all the time and it terrifies me. TLW is still very good if used correctly, and First Curse is fun and can dominate a match if you know what you're doing. Side note, I'm really glad you're making more videos. This was super good:)
@@imzenoz8668 I wish I was. The amount of times I've been gunned down with Necro or Eidolon Ally is scary. And I see people rock First Curse all the time with some pretty good results
I wish you went over each exotic’s special intrinsic perk for those who might have forgotten or simply don’t know what it does so they get a better understanding of why it contributes to their spot on the list.
I miss First Curse and (REWORKED)Dragon's Breath. It feels like everyone remembers Dark Drinker but Raze Lighter, Bolt Caster, and even Young Wolf's Howl(after its buff) were just as powerful in their own way. It makes me sad that it feels like they won't ever bring back the og sword trio. We have Falling Guillotine and Temptation's Hook, but it truthfully isn't the same.
I feel like everyone forgets about the buff that Young Wolf's Howl got that made the ammo consumption the same as the other swords and gave it more damage. I would personally put it in B tier
@@HoneyBadger1342 it was mehhh for what it was, it's was just completely shadowed by DD and RL. Not saying it was bad, I liked it too. It just wasn't the best. RL is just better than it in every way.
@@ewangreenhorn1051 I know it wasn't the best. All the other swords were either A or S tier. It's just in my opinion that it should be B tier since it's not as good, but it's still pretty close
Queen Bracker's Bow was amazing in D1 when it first came out. If I remember correctly it had 70 ammo for reserves meaning it was a special weapon that could be used as a primary.
Destiny 1 mida was amazing in d1 for it's capability in crucible and it's speed in pve especially since once you get the stench and run the the chest this thing is so helpful
I loved Zhalo Supercell so much in D1. Precision kills chain lightning and refill your magazine out of thin air. Awesome for PvE completely sucks in PvP.
You should probably use the exotics before ranking them so you judge them based on actual performance and not based on age old memory. But fair list, I can get behind some of the choices
I remember joining my friends VOG as a new player, barely high enough to do it, right as they entered the final damage phase of atheon. Got the Vex and didn’t even know it was the most op weapon at the time. Good times
@@telesto4099 I wasn’t very good in crucible (in general) admittedly, but I had an absolute ball when using Fabian Strategy. Loved that thing to death and would definitely not be opposed if it came back to D2
@@johndavis8746 It was the only answer to Vex Mythoclast. I bought it from Xur I think it was the second exotic he sold and without it PVP was impossible to play if someone with a Vex Mythoclast showed up. Pre Nerf the Vex had like 50 shots or something.
Sleeper(was epic in D1), Dark Drinker, Last word, Thorn, and Truth are all S-tier. Patience and Time was definitely B-tier+. Outbreak was A+ tier. All the T-lord style MG's were A+.
Suros regime in D1 year 1 was the best weapon in the game. plus it had the iconic "plink plink plink" noise that drove everyone insane. It was like a 3-4 hit kill. absolutely meta in year 1 I agree with chat with sleeper being in S tier. Before they nerfed it, it was a REQUIREMENT for raids and strikes. You would CHUNK bosses with sleeper. Absurd exotic
I love how the end result has 6/8 of the S-tiers being year 1, not even just year 1, pre-DLC exotics. Ngl I'd make some changes to stray away from them being famous/infamous but as a D1 player I respect the appreciation even if I think some things could be changed around
12:37 "Get 3 headshot kills for a *slightly boosted shot*." Man with the right modifiers that "slightly boosted shot" did more than a Golden Gun with Nighthawk.
Zhalo Supercell is an EASY A or S tier. Badass iconic futuristic AK-47 look, arc burn as a primary, and absolutely insane killing potential. Had good rate of fire, low recoil, and solid mag size. The chain lighting effect meant it could absolutely shred groups of enemies, it had persistence to gain accuracy while continuously firing, and getting kills with the gun charged your super and refilled the magazine. This thing was the Bad Juju on steroids. I'd put it as an S tier without a doubt. This is a gun that if you ever used it, you definitely remember it to this day, just like the other S tier weapons.
i know this is random but i stumbled upon this bit of lore and i want to share it; The Nine are sometimes called the Ennead, especially by the Cabal. This was also the name of the group for the 9 major gods of Egypt, which were Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Nephytys, and mayve coincidentally, Osiris.
I haven’t played destiny in like 6 years and all I have to say is my babies thorn, icebreaker, and gallahorn better be S tier. Oh and the vexmythoclass was shit, F tier.
When taken king was being added, they nerfed the signature perk for black hammer (white nail) and never brought it back past year 1. Black spindle and whisper of the worm are exotic versions of black hammer with whisper having whispered breathing added on top of it..
What the hell!? You do know once they exiled Ballerhorn the Sleeper was all we had to lean on for boss DPS right? It was at the top for a very long time. not even the updated Gjallarhorn could top it after it got nerfed with the wolf pack rounds spawning fewer.
Only reason I’d use sleeper is because I’m year 3 a lot of people actually preferred to use that over gali because gali wasn’t as good as it was in year 1 and when sleeper came out in year 2 it was the primary dps other than some snipers
Dude, 4th horseman was literally the best weapon for killing strike bosses and it was actually one of the best weapons for killing vosik. I am surprised that u ranked it in F tier
pocket inifinty was a full auto fusion rifle, too this day its the best fusion rifle for pvp in both games histories. shit could melt a whole team, and don't forget some of the missed shot went back into the gun. it was like a flame thrower. it was the exotic i was most disappointed never made it into d2
The First Curse deserves to be a A or B tier. That thing would slap people around in Crucible if you knew how to use it right. Not only that but you could return a insane amount of ammo back into your mag in pve if you played your cards right.
Like to pay respects for Pocket Infinity... 😬
i was gonna say where’s pocket infinity?
Edit: wow doesn’t deserve D tier that thing shreds through health on crucible ;(
Same here!! To be honest with you pocket infinity deserves a video of its own. how it change destiny for forever
Truth
You forgot about the chaperone at the end
Good video bro🤘🏻
That D1 memories hitting hard
Seeing sleeper in b tier hurts my heart. That gun legit carried me through most encounters.
Yeah same it was the first really good exotic I got,I carried me through most raids
I think it should be S because of titan skating made it better but think this is a more of a casual ranking so don’t blame him
It’s better then g horn
Yes
Gucci Gang that’s not true
Unknown: "This was a good gun, I liked this gun."
*Puts in D tier*
Dark Drinker is definitely S tier. And I would argue black spindle too, since it was the best weapon for a lot of raid encounters. Year 1 Suros Regime was so damn good too
Black spindle was very good for Kings Fall, but it became obsolete as Ex Machina basically became flat out better than it(in most situations) plus it was a legendary sniper, allowing you to use a different exotic if the option presented itself. I’d say Black Spindle is good on A tier, but yea I was shocked Dark Drinker wasn’t immediately put to S tier
@@aidenation101 ex machina loses in every situation that has a stationary boss. Reason being is you don't lose time to reloading and therefore deeeps
LowMan Josh Yea and I totally agree with you on that front, which is why it’s so good in King’s Fall. But other then that, that’s about it, because it gets outclassed in VOG by Sleeper + Ex Machina combo for both Templar and Atheon; There’s almost no way you can use it effectively in Crota’s End(compared to other exotics); and Wrath of the Machines it has one chance with Vosik, but Ex Machina wins again because of its bonus damage to fallen, allowing it to surpass as not only a legendary sniper outclassing an exotic in almost every way, but even more so when you consider that the exotic slot is then open for you to use. Even in things like strokes or nightfalls, Ex Machina is still the best pick for reasons mentioned above. But I do agree that Kong’s Fall is where it really shines in DPS output, especially in Golgoroth. But the only other place you can really use it is in Warpriest, which MIGHT have been outclassed by Sleeper and Ex Machina(but I’m not entirely sure on that).
@@aidenation101 I would agree in most cases against fallen . But sleeper in d1 didn't split on ricochet like d2 only thing that was special about it was it being a heavy single shot fusion that hit crits when tbh. Dps on black spindle and a cluster rocket worked just as well if not better. Only time I pulled sleeper out in any raid was templar every encounter it's black spindle outside of daughters cause of flinch and hands .. (so touch of malice is used sometimes)
Mind you between my launch account on xbox and my ps4 (which I have 1500+ hours on my titan alone on) I still raid weekly with my clan. We all hate d2 but still play d1.
Pocket Infinity was so strong, so broken Bungie literally left it in Y1 never too be seen again.
A Tier
Never even carried it to TK, mfs really just didn’t know what to do about it
It was so broken it got BANNED and exiled to never return. It was the ONLY exotic in Y1 that didn’t come back. S tier, full stop.
@@fatesrequiem Ice Breaker ???
@@crab_striker1961 ice breaker came back in rise of iron. i didn’t play it so correct me if i’m wrong but i think you had to to vanguard bounties and you had a chance to get it
@@andrewzimmerman5664 yes I got it in year 3 sunrise bounties, not sure if it was there before
Bro, sleeper is sold S just due to raw damage output on critical hits. It was a solid raid weapon. if you ran a 6 man with sleeper you could finish the raid in like 2 rounds.
I've one fazed Atheon with 6 man sleepers
@@PaperEater_ RIGHT. Shit was nuts.
Idk if your going to reply but
Sleeper should be like S+ tier
Sleeper is the end all be all of guns in destiny 1- you do not know how much my friends were impressed by it- not to mention the easy quest line- the hard part is getting all the dvalin things- if your lazy just look up the answers to the codes. Sleeper carried me through multiple raids, strikes, everything!
The way this list is made, makes me think you started in destiny 2
Ikr, I just wanna know how tf the fourth horseman in F tier that carried me through nightfalls
Facts
@@ckdv1158 this awful tier list video doesn't help with your statement
yea the gally and ice breaker were really the only S weapons in my opinon, red death was up there too after it got buffed. that was my main pvp and in the rotation for main pve weapons as well. dont know why he put it in b teir
@@rogue5843 it’s a tier list 😭 just opinions
I wanna know what this guy was smoking when he said Suros Regime is better in D2
It was god-tier in D1, one of the go-to, most used exotics in year 1. In D2 i NEVER see anyone using the Suros Regime.
This aged like milk
3 years later and Suros is one of the best exotic auto rifles for PvP in D2 ;)
This list was more based on how "iconic" a weapon was, lmao.
Yeah. He did sleeper simulant dirty though. That thing was the gjallarhorn for taken king
@@jojak0512 Not just taken king. Year 3 atheon too.
Then why the fuck isn't thorn s tier? That gun is far more iconic of crucible in its entirety. End of story. You will not change my mind.
@@johndavis8746 Cuz thorn was just iconic on year 1 (same as Suros Regime), what happened is that on year 2 or 3 it just not surprise and make people grind for it, let's accept it, thorn just was not that good on year 3.
Fourth Horseman in F tier, when it can melt any strike boss in 2 seconds
LMAO
Facts
Exactly
He out his damn mind smfh 4th horseman was absolute monsterous
Outside of snipers, it was almost the only defense for roaming supers in crucible
FAX
Homie apparently forgot the ptsd of getting mapped by a queen’s breaker, also homie put first curse lower than ace ? He’s clearly bugging
He out his rabbit ass mind
Queen was my trials crutch for so many flawlesses
I kinda hate queen but maybe im just using it incorrectly
@@ethansalters8843 Yeah, u gotta charge the snipe before aiming at someone, treat it like a fusion, its aim assist is insane as soon as u start charging it
This man never used fabian strategy in Y3 and it shows. Its absolutely a C or B tier exotic. Its very good now
I think it even got a buff in year 3 and it became my main weapon for a while
@@onesmileybaldy8303 yeah it got a buff in Y3 and became a crazy good exotic one of my favorites by the end of D1 wish it was in D2 tbh
Monte Carlo too
It was v good
Imagine getting ganked by 3-4 people and you brought out this weapon.
MIDA has always been amazing. Steady reliable weapon for any encounter, PVE or PVP. High-end A tier, at least.
Ong. MIDA was amazing in D1, much better than it is now. Don’t know what it’s doing down there tbh
Mida was Crazy Good
Unknown: "I'm looking over all 3 years, not just the first or last."
Puts Vex Mythoclast in S tier despite being nerfed into the ground.
Me: "... biased Barry."
This whole vid is biased, this man put Sleeper in B tier like bruh
Vex mythoclast was nerfed and was never usable again 😂 had it sitting in the vault for years
@@damiansanchez9425 was the nerf that fucking tragic?
@@darciheadswillroll yes
@@darciheadswillroll it was horrible 😂
Imagine saying sleeper is better in D2 and then putting it in B tier smh this list as a whole was awful
Yeah I had no idea what he was talking about. Sleeper was THE exotic heavy for d1 year 2 and even 3 to some extent. It was way worse in d2 I haven’t even seen anyone use it in years.
@@jojak0512 yea true haven't seen anyone use it
That aged well
*puts chaos dogma in d tier”
Me: So you have chosen death
I can say the same for Khvostov... This man has no emotions, ghost's speech alone made the entire DLC worth it for me.
@@K_Bogz yeah true
He’s like yeah I like it...
D TIER
for his *HEINOUS* crime, he shall be thrown into a vat of acid!!!!
This is the most INACCURATE list ever, Jesus
Well yeah....that’s just like your opinion man
James Pearce ok James
Yeah cus strike boss melting 4th horsemen in F tier is accurate
Carlos Carlos but in d1 fourth horsemen had better alternatives
@@dumbo3529 its not an opinion already puts no land in c tier even saying it is terrable but puts Fabian strategy in F tier thats why i dont watch unkmown player anymore just got recommended this and 4th horseman is d tier at best i always used sum else than that u prob never played d1
we in destiny 1 year 7 👀
Imagine if they remastered D1 since 7 is their number and it’s year 7 of the game
Still playing d1 quit d2 before shadow keep.
we don’t care
We have our D1 PvP kings and PvE Kings
Half, Aksis Bake, Duality, and WhiteWidow have found a way to solo nearly every raid boss except Atheon and Warprest/Golgeroth.
PvP kinda varies
LowMan Josh
Same here
But when I explain to people why they don’t understand
I feel like the D1 exotics have so much more flavor and personality to them than the D2 exotics
Fourth horseman should be wayyy higher
Should be a tier on how good it was for some bosses
Arc damage week for strikes yea it was fun
Agreed
Everything on this list is whack
bubbles in the pfp💀
Queen breaker in C tier? Alright, I’ve seen enough, I’m calling this one.
Mans got mercied in a tier list 😂
Was searching for this queen breaker was a fucking beast and so was pre nerf lord of wolves those guns were a menace in crucible so much so they got nerfed into the floor
@@jadenthakur5440 It was much better as a special weapon, instead of a heavy weapon
4:11
Mida multi tool: am i a joke to you?
No land beyond: hold my beer
i feel hunters use mida the most,
RIGHT
“I just started reloading that gun in 2015 and I think it just finished now.”
Bro that freakin’ KILLED me! I wish Zaouli’s Bane functioned as good as it looked, I always loved the look of that gun
12:15
zaouli’s bane, aka the worst hand cannon in the game, 2nd worst is fever n remedy
When he put Plan C in D Tier I knew I couldn’t keep watching lmao
shit tier list tbh
See my thing with this list is there are some exotics in the list that your just to biased about, pocket infinity deserves s tier due to the fact bungie literally said it's never coming back, and fabien strategy was garbage for a long time, but it did get buffed to have insane damage when people got near, but for the most part I agree
I mean considering all tier lists are opinion based, he’s not “too* biased” about anything
I think he's just biased against fusion rifles in general, Sleeper Simulant should be higher, Plan C I'd say at least deserves C tier too. There was a time in crucible where fusion rifles were super OP and that thing was in every single match.
Nah this whole tier list is fucked. How is nemesis star above super good advice and dragon breath. 😦
Red Death not being in S Tier is an offense to my family
it’s not that good sorry
@@timdxg it was EXTREMELY good in early release, being able to get health back in raid encounters that stopped your healing was so clutch.
@@TheRivs80 yea but it was only used for health back other than that is was outclassed by every other pulse
@@timdxg doesn't matter, it was so good in any encounter but great for healing encounters
@@TheRivs80 bro it was only good for one encounter in a raid (which was the very last part of crota) which doesn’t make the gun S tier at all, literally all it did was heal you, other than that the gun stats was trash and outclassed by every other pulse rifle and exotic
This pulls me back so hard. I used to watch Unknown/Andrew every day for destiny 1 content and guides and what not. I’m glad you’re back to it.
And 4th hourseman in f? Have you ever done arc singe specialist nighfalls? 😂
That’s only if that’s the perks, overall i would put it in C MAX, wasn’t that great overall over the years and once you fire off those first few it’s kinda meh
@@greywind5745 even without modifiers horseman is only really out dps by a rocket launcher, or god rolled shotgun.
He has not lol
no land and queenbreakers were definitely A for me in pvp
I think he forgot that queenbreakers literally snapped to heads and they changed special ammo which made no land have a place, epically when paired with a sidearm
Yes sir that what I used to run in pvp
Seeing fourth horseman in F tier hurt my heart. Not even last week I melted the saber servitor in under 5 seconds :(
Queenbreaker and NLB were top tier weapons in Crucible.
This man actually just put 4th horsemen in f tier, smh
No way did you say Pocket Infinity was awful. It had like 3 nerfs and it was still one of the best exotics in the game.
The fact invective didnt get A tier makes me sad. That gun was mah baby
11:21 yo that line was SAVAGE BRO! Also hecc for B tier sleeper simulant, I feel knocked down a peg. I'm gonna have to find some form of therapy for the legendaries tier list if you do that xD I really miss this game, wish it didn't move so fast at it's end stages to write itself off :/
Fourth horseman was useless.
The shield brothers: Are we a joke to you?
Yes, they are a joke to us.
every strike*
Supercell?!?!? S tier!
yeah thats what i was thinking. It was a monster with the lightning.
It's addclear potential is beyond insane, run it for first stage corota, every. Single. Time.
This dude really just put Thunderlord above Sleeper
Thunderlord > sleeper over the course of D1.
I actually went back to D1 recently and became really good with some weapons I never used. Necrocasm is extremely good in crucible, and learning how to use NLB makes you the most deadly player in the match. People also use the raid exotics all the time and it terrifies me. TLW is still very good if used correctly, and First Curse is fun and can dominate a match if you know what you're doing.
Side note, I'm really glad you're making more videos. This was super good:)
I know u did not just say nechro and first curse are good they are terrible u probably get bot lobbies
@@imzenoz8668 I wish I was. The amount of times I've been gunned down with Necro or Eidolon Ally is scary. And I see people rock First Curse all the time with some pretty good results
Necrochasm is okay for a 900rpm auto but my doctrine of passing, soul stealers claw, and even atheons epilogue do better
I wish you went over each exotic’s special intrinsic perk for those who might have forgotten or simply don’t know what it does so they get a better understanding of why it contributes to their spot on the list.
He did say he was doing this off of pure memory
Fourth horseman was one of the highest DPS weapons....
Yeeep this list hurts
I miss First Curse and (REWORKED)Dragon's Breath. It feels like everyone remembers Dark Drinker but Raze Lighter, Bolt Caster, and even Young Wolf's Howl(after its buff) were just as powerful in their own way. It makes me sad that it feels like they won't ever bring back the og sword trio. We have Falling Guillotine and Temptation's Hook, but it truthfully isn't the same.
young wolfa howl sucks
Dude First Curse made me redownload the game,my favorite gun in the Destiny universe
I feel like everyone forgets about the buff that Young Wolf's Howl got that made the ammo consumption the same as the other swords and gave it more damage. I would personally put it in B tier
Nahhh, even after the buff it got, like c at best. 🤔🤔😅😅👍
@@ewangreenhorn1051 how was it a C? It had nearly the same damage as raze lighter except it was also an aoe attack
@@HoneyBadger1342 it was mehhh for what it was, it's was just completely shadowed by DD and RL. Not saying it was bad, I liked it too. It just wasn't the best. RL is just better than it in every way.
@@ewangreenhorn1051 I know it wasn't the best. All the other swords were either A or S tier. It's just in my opinion that it should be B tier since it's not as good, but it's still pretty close
@@HoneyBadger1342 I still just think it belongs in C personally, to underwhelming for B if you ask me.
These D1 videos make me so nostalgic🥺
Not seeing Thorn and the Last Word in S tier should be a personal attack.
Queen Bracker's Bow was amazing in D1 when it first came out. If I remember correctly it had 70 ammo for reserves meaning it was a special weapon that could be used as a primary.
Doom of Chelchis will come for revenge man. Loved that gun in both legendary and exotic versions.
4th Horseman in F tier is so painful to see, that thing melted strike bosses in Arc burn week
All I hav to say to that is, should've used sleeper
Destiny 1 mida was amazing in d1 for it's capability in crucible and it's speed in pve especially since once you get the stench and run the the chest this thing is so helpful
Wdym sleeper is s tier it's stronger then g horn
Ikr! You couldn't even join a raid without it 😂
You clearly don’t play d1 consistently then
gjalla > everything in pve
nick only encounter ghorn isn’t better in is kf and aksis
Matthew Cochrane fine *year 1 gjally > everything
Patience and time, and Monte Carlo were godly. Wish they'd bring back patience and time in D2.
I loved Zhalo Supercell so much in D1. Precision kills chain lightning and refill your magazine out of thin air. Awesome for PvE completely sucks in PvP.
This man never died to thorn in D1 crucible. Literally was the most broken gun.
When he didn't put zhallo in s tier 😔
Feels bad
@@telesto4099 it truly does
Bro i mained that thing for at least 2 years and it was awesome
@@bruhtha04 same
@@bruhtha04 exactly, it was too good. especially for acr burn nightfalls
We really missed you man, youre an og destiny youtuber and still are the best today, I never get tired of your videos
You should probably use the exotics before ranking them so you judge them based on actual performance and not based on age old memory. But fair list, I can get behind some of the choices
I remember joining my friends VOG as a new player, barely high enough to do it, right as they entered the final damage phase of atheon. Got the Vex and didn’t even know it was the most op weapon at the time. Good times
i disagree with fabian strategy and fever and remedy, those were my go to
Fabian was fucking godly when used correctly
@@telesto4099 I wasn’t very good in crucible (in general) admittedly, but I had an absolute ball when using Fabian Strategy. Loved that thing to death and would definitely not be opposed if it came back to D2
"This thing would follow you home, like, a week later."
- Truth reference, 2020
I’m convinced this guy never played destiny 1
Red death had unflinching. I think it could 2 burst? Full heal off kill. It was a menace.
Y'all never used SUROS in vanilla Destiny 1 pvp and it shows. One of the most busted weapons to ever exist.
Fr. That thing could almost keep up with year 1 mythoclast.
@@johndavis8746 It was the only answer to Vex Mythoclast. I bought it from Xur I think it was the second exotic he sold and without it PVP was impossible to play if someone with a Vex Mythoclast showed up. Pre Nerf the Vex had like 50 shots or something.
Tell me you didn't play Destiny 1 without telling me you didn't play Destiny 1
The swords should be s tier, what drugs you on
How is dark drinker below raze lighter when it did more prolonged and single target dps…?
Excuse me you’re forgetting the most important exotic, much much more crucial than gjallarhorn. *WHERE IS FATE OF ALL FOOLS HUH*
It has its own tier list in ss tier
@@themetavsblue he’d put it in c but don’t worry he’ll say it’s iconic
this dude would probably put it in D tier lmfao
Sleeper(was epic in D1), Dark Drinker, Last word, Thorn, and Truth are all S-tier. Patience and Time was definitely B-tier+. Outbreak was A+ tier. All the T-lord style MG's were A+.
Outbreak Prime in A Tier, Sleeper Stimulant in B Tier, Dark Drinker in B Tier? Blasphemy!
Suros regime in D1 year 1 was the best weapon in the game. plus it had the iconic "plink plink plink" noise that drove everyone insane. It was like a 3-4 hit kill. absolutely meta in year 1
I agree with chat with sleeper being in S tier. Before they nerfed it, it was a REQUIREMENT for raids and strikes. You would CHUNK bosses with sleeper. Absurd exotic
I regret watching this, everything is biased and the reasons are wack.
I love how the end result has 6/8 of the S-tiers being year 1, not even just year 1, pre-DLC exotics. Ngl I'd make some changes to stray away from them being famous/infamous but as a D1 player I respect the appreciation even if I think some things could be changed around
he sucks at making tier lists, half of this shit is completely wrong
Pocket infinity was overpowered and amazing. It melted everything. I question your judgement now
“It was that gun that your one friend used all the time and was somehow really good with it”
I was that friend
Same
Yes. All things Unknown Player. Yes.
12:37 "Get 3 headshot kills for a *slightly boosted shot*." Man with the right modifiers that "slightly boosted shot" did more than a Golden Gun with Nighthawk.
The nostalgia is hitting too hard😢
Zhalo Supercell is an EASY A or S tier. Badass iconic futuristic AK-47 look, arc burn as a primary, and absolutely insane killing potential. Had good rate of fire, low recoil, and solid mag size. The chain lighting effect meant it could absolutely shred groups of enemies, it had persistence to gain accuracy while continuously firing, and getting kills with the gun charged your super and refilled the magazine. This thing was the Bad Juju on steroids. I'd put it as an S tier without a doubt. This is a gun that if you ever used it, you definitely remember it to this day, just like the other S tier weapons.
his dude has never played d1 wtf
yeah, i disagree with a lot of these
Holy crap. Didn't realise how much I missed Zhalo's.
Side note: Pumped your dropping d2 content again.
Feel like you've forgotten a lot about these weapons... 🤔
i know this is random but i stumbled upon this bit of lore and i want to share it; The Nine are sometimes called the Ennead, especially by the Cabal. This was also the name of the group for the 9 major gods of Egypt, which were Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Nephytys, and mayve coincidentally, Osiris.
I haven’t played destiny in like 6 years and all I have to say is my babies thorn, icebreaker, and gallahorn better be S tier.
Oh and the vexmythoclass was shit, F tier.
its funny on how it was too good in crucible in Y1 till it got nerfed to pointlessness
Beans you’re obviously new if you thought it was shit 😂
kangaroobollocks it was only good for a small period of time. It was pretty bad for longer than it was good
kangaroobollocks it was the best weapon in pvp for about one week and then was shit for ever after
One smiley baldy more than a week, about half a year
When taken king was being added, they nerfed the signature perk for black hammer (white nail) and never brought it back past year 1. Black spindle and whisper of the worm are exotic versions of black hammer with whisper having whispered breathing added on top of it..
Please. Next time you make a tier list, play the freaking game. So many of these are just wrong.
What the hell!? You do know once they exiled Ballerhorn the Sleeper was all we had to lean on for boss DPS right? It was at the top for a very long time. not even the updated Gjallarhorn could top it after it got nerfed with the wolf pack rounds spawning fewer.
plan C is still great its like pre nerf erantil backup plan as an exotic
what am i looking at smh
For a guy who’s whole TH-cam channel is based on destiny, he’s rating weapons like he’s never played the game.
Ima stop watching before I get upset
Queen Breakers was so good in d1 me and my buddy did the 2v3 challenge trials card with it and went flawless
As a titan main our exotic was insanely powerful are you good? Best work horse exotic in the game.
The last word revolver is sick I literally pulled it today didn’t expect it at all and it’s amazing 🤩
Only reason I’d use sleeper is because I’m year 3 a lot of people actually preferred to use that over gali because gali wasn’t as good as it was in year 1 and when sleeper came out in year 2 it was the primary dps other than some snipers
Dude, 4th horseman was literally the best weapon for killing strike bosses and it was actually one of the best weapons for killing vosik. I am surprised that u ranked it in F tier
Love how loads of content creators are going back to D1 for content - superior game!
pocket inifinty was a full auto fusion rifle, too this day its the best fusion rifle for pvp in both games histories. shit could melt a whole team, and don't forget some of the missed shot went back into the gun. it was like a flame thrower. it was the exotic i was most disappointed never made it into d2
The First Curse deserves to be a A or B tier. That thing would slap people around in Crucible if you knew how to use it right. Not only that but you could return a insane amount of ammo back into your mag in pve if you played your cards right.
Dark Drinker definitely deserves S-Tier
The wrath of the machine hand cannon could actually two tap in crucible. The perks allowed u to be faster I believe and two tap and people slept on it