Even The Simplest Pokemon Gym Badges Don't Make Sense!

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  • @Gnoggin
    @Gnoggin  ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Pokemon Silver was my VERY first Pokemon game, I remember hiding my Gameboy in bed to stay up late playing it. Speaking of beds: Thank you Helix for sponsoring! Visit helixsleep.com/lockstin to get 20% off your Helix mattress, plus two free pillows. Offers subject to change. #helixsleep

    • @RebelliousTreecko
      @RebelliousTreecko ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me it was Gold. I was into the Pokemon series in general with the cards and anime, but I didn't own an actual game until Gen 2.

    • @Metetto
      @Metetto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Speaking of sleeping, I actually had a dream about Lockstin once. He introduced a new Lockemon: Neo Diglett and it's evolution Magtrio. They were a fire/ground type and lived inside the recently re-activated Cinnabar Volcano.

    • @gladigatorrawr1480
      @gladigatorrawr1480 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whitney was originally a baseball player (her ace was gonna be Aipom), she still has the jersey. The badge looks like a baseball field

    • @MrJulius64
      @MrJulius64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Metetto Sounds kinda prophetic. We shall see if your dream comes true, and I honestly hope it does because that would be so cool for you!

    • @MrJulius64
      @MrJulius64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually started with Gen 1, but Johto is my favorite region of the first 4. Blue was my preferred version, Red was the copy I started over and over, and yellow was just a fun time. I actually had every version except Gold, Emerald, B2W2, X, OR, Sun, and USUM. Oh, and Green, obviously. Little me couldn't read Japanese (and big me still can only somewhat read katakana and recognize a few words or phrases mostly from Tokusatsu shows and anime.), but yeah.

  • @EmeralBookwise
    @EmeralBookwise ปีที่แล้ว +696

    What I like about like about the English Mineral Badge over the over the Japanese Steel badge is how it plays into the notion of Steel-types being newly discovered, and that Jasmine actually used to be a Rock-type gym leader before her ace Steelix evolved from an Onix.

    • @official-juppy
      @official-juppy ปีที่แล้ว +78

      It looks like a refined Boulder badge (brock's badge) without the internal lines.

    • @CaptainObliviousV
      @CaptainObliviousV ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I was just about to say this

    • @Arohan71
      @Arohan71 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Was going to say much the same. It plays into the idea that Jasmine's type speciality only recently changed and there hasn't been a lot of time to update the gym's branding. If I recall she doesn't even have any gym trainers when you battle her in the original games.

    • @EmeralBookwise
      @EmeralBookwise ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@Arohan71: True, although since you have to climb the lighthouse first to meet her, it's arguable that the lighthouse trainers double as her gym trainers... at least mechanically, although the lack of trainers in her actual gym helps add to the narrative that the steel-type is too new for there to be other specialists.

    • @Lazu__li
      @Lazu__li ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ​@@Arohan71 At least in the remakes there are gym trainers they just don't fight because Jasmine just wants to thank you or something

  • @masterriolu8627
    @masterriolu8627 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    To add on to the mineral badge, Jasmine was a rock specialist before switching to steel in canon, so mineral fits both rock & steel.

  • @amesstarline5482
    @amesstarline5482 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    It's interesting how Cianwood and Mahoghany are almost like inverses in type-specialties/town names. Ice is a cyan, Fighting is a brick reddish.

    • @amesstarline5482
      @amesstarline5482 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @thatonegirlthatlikesylveon Considering Pryce dresses very beachy in GSC, while Chuck's fighting theme does work with an area by a Lake of Rage, it could be.

  • @AbsolXGuardian
    @AbsolXGuardian ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I always assumed that Chuck had recently taken over the gym from a water type gym leader, hence the waterfall in the gym. For some reason he could redesign the badge but not change its name. The previous (in-universe) design of the badge could also have been cyan.

    • @emerfirek
      @emerfirek ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's a really nice headcanon. I'll take it too, thx, lol. He could resist the Water attacks w/ his Poliwrath, and fight back w/ Dynamic Punch, etc. Dojo takeovers sure were popular back in the day, huh? Could've also been a tangential reference to the thing about the previous Saffron Fighting Gym getting taken over by Psychics in gen 1.

  • @felipesilva3732
    @felipesilva3732 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Random suggestion, but since we are already analysing the badges, maybe also analyse the type symbols, like why swoshi represent grass with leaves while scavi uses actual grass

    • @cesarflamenco9484
      @cesarflamenco9484 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ever since Gen 1, Grass was always represented with a leaf starting with the TCG. Then jump all the way to Pokemon Go, where ever type finally got it's own symbol to be used in the main line games. Grass was once again represented with a leaf with these new designs. Note that the Pokemon Go symbols for types are the same ones used for SwSh.
      But now fast forward to Pokemon BDSP where the symbols for the types were once again redesigned. This was where Pokemon finally decided to represent the Grass Type with grass finally to probably be more in line with the type's name. This is where SV got the symbols from to use BTW.

    • @amiri3276
      @amiri3276 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Swoshi" and "Scavi" broke my brain for a full minute at least. I don't think I've ever seen anyone abbreviate them like that before

  • @ryninja5788
    @ryninja5788 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Y’know, I just realized. The mineral badge is the same shape as the boulder badge. Perhaps the badge itself is a reference to Brock’s? After all, her signature is steelix, the steel evolution of Brock’s signature onyx.

    • @tanandalynch9441
      @tanandalynch9441 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She also was rock type until Onix evolved

  • @thepsyshyster
    @thepsyshyster ปีที่แล้ว +26

    In regards to the Japanese name of the Storm Badge, ショック (Shock) can refer not only to the state of psychological shock but to physical shock (also called mechanical shock) as well. As in the sort of acceleration put on your car by a sudden force when you're on a bumpy road. You then use shock absorbers to stabilize the vehicle and lessen that acceleration. The same concept of shock is applicable to how one's body accelerates after the impact of the punch or kick of another. The name definitely doesn't translate well to English, but it sense conceptually. A more appropriate localization might be the Force Badge, maintaining the mechanical physics being referenced but also in regards to the physical force behind Chuck and his Poliwrath's Dynamic/Focus Punch, two high-damage moves.

  • @nobleoxidation
    @nobleoxidation ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I like that Whitney's base also looks like a baseball diamond, linking back to when she was going to be a baseball player with Aipom as her ace!

  • @christinefarrell6438
    @christinefarrell6438 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Since Jasmine used to be a rock type trainer, maybe (at least in English) she just kept the badge name when she changed to steel type. The design would probably work for either type too.

    • @Super_Top_Secret_Area
      @Super_Top_Secret_Area ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If she used to be a Rock type Gym Leader, that would mean she had to change her badge after the Steel type was discovered, since it is called the Steel Badge in Japanese, which would imply that it used to be the Rock Badge or something like that.

    • @christinefarrell6438
      @christinefarrell6438 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Super_Top_Secret_Area Which is why I added the "at least in English" bit. Maybe she kept it the same in the English version but changed it in the Japanese. I'm not sure what it's called in other languages.

  • @Luffy453
    @Luffy453 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    These are the German names of the badges:
    1 The Zephyr Badge is called "Flügelorden", so wing badge
    2 The Hive Badge is called "Insektenorden", so insect badge and it fits
    3 The Plain Badge is called "Basisorden", so base badge (when I was little, Whitney´s Miltank brickwalled me, so I thought the badge is called that cuz you need a sturdy base to advance)
    4 The Fog Badge is called "Phantomorden", so phantom badge
    5 The Storm Badge is called "Faustorden", so fist badge
    6 The Mineral Badge is called "Stahlorden", so steel badge (but after Avatar´s Toph I can accept mineral as a synonym for steel)
    7 The Glacier Badge is called "Eisorden", so ice badge
    8 The Rise Badge is called "Drachenorden", so dragon badge
    As always, German is pretty much on the nose with its naming
    Don´t know if that was useful or interesting to anyone, but I had fun remembering my first run through Johto

    • @TickedOffPriest
      @TickedOffPriest ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I liked it.

    • @catriamflockentanz
      @catriamflockentanz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All accurate I have one objection though.
      Are you sure you accept "Mineral" as a equivalent of Steel due to Toph's actions of inventing Metalbending in Avatar? Don't you think that Guru Pathik's words "Even Metal is just a part of the Earth, it just was cleaned and refined a bit." affected you more there? Especially given it is superimposed over Toph's first tries from within the cage.

    • @Luffy453
      @Luffy453 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@catriamflockentanz I mean probably, but both is fantasy so we don´t have to be suuuper exact with science, otherwise nothing would work out (for instance, water gun would have only 1 PP if the Pokémon is not close to water)

    • @Kolibieri
      @Kolibieri ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plain Badge be looking like a ("Vorfahrtsstraße") street sign. :D

    • @Luffy453
      @Luffy453 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kolibieri I didn´t even see that :D

  • @Britty_B
    @Britty_B ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Jack black Octagon reference at 9:32 with the “8 stunning sides” and the ”oh man” made my day

  • @hrpang
    @hrpang ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There's one more mention I like to give Whitney about her Plain Badge.
    Her design is inspired by baseball players, so her badge could also be a baseball field(specifically the area which is designated by the four plates). A field is also another word for plains.

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It makes sense as Japan is as big into baseball as the U.S. and Whitney wasn't the only Pokémon anime character into the sport. Remember Casey and her love for yellow Pokémon with stripes?

  • @legacyofthe243
    @legacyofthe243 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    @Gnoggin there's something that I think you may have missed about the Storm Badge. It's not storm as in weather, it's storm as in storming the gates aka engaging the enemy. Hence why it's the fighting type gym badge.

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's not actually what it's based on, either.

  • @dj_kitsu5850
    @dj_kitsu5850 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I feel like storm being with fighting is closer to like, how storming someone means charginf at it with force. Like storming the castle. And maybe shock being like putting things into shock, like when you hit things so hard they go into shock or somethin

  • @TheDukeofCheese12
    @TheDukeofCheese12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    9:36
    Most steel bolts like that typically have hexagonal (hex) heads, while the badge is an octagon.
    They were so close too…

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hexagons are the bestagons after all.

  • @NightFuryLover31
    @NightFuryLover31 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Gold Version and a GameBoy?! NOSTALGIA HITS HARD LIKE A HITMONCHAN!
    Never really made the connection to the towns in Johto and trees before either. I was pretty young, so I didn't about that. And playing HeartGold, just more nostalgia. Definitely looking forward to my favorite region badges next!

  • @thegayghost872
    @thegayghost872 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I’ve always been frustrated that Bugsy’s badge looks like a ladybug, but he doesn’t have Ledyba on his team

    • @MrJulius64
      @MrJulius64 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Or a Ledian.

    • @Luffy453
      @Luffy453 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same, I always thought he would have a Ledyba and a Spinarak, instead of two cocoons that didn´t do much

    • @christinefarrell6438
      @christinefarrell6438 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Spinarak, Ledyba, and Heracross would have been a good gym. Heracross's four times weakness to flying would keep it from being too too op for a second gym. It would probably be easier than Scyther, since Scyther is pretty fast for that point in the game but Heracross is slower

    • @Luffy453
      @Luffy453 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@christinefarrell6438 And it would´ve been a team with only new Johto Pokémon (you also would´ve naturally encountered Heracross and the exclusive bug from the other game)

    • @christinefarrell6438
      @christinefarrell6438 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Luffy453 AND you can get Heracross in Azalea Town by head butting trees, the mechanic you learn in literally the next route, so it really just works!

  • @agm5424
    @agm5424 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Concept idea:
    What if each badge gives their owners a specific power related to the badge's design, name and pokemon type. Think the talismans form Jackie Chan's Adventures but not as op. Like the Fog Badge can turn you into a mass of fog, or summon one, and the knuckle badge can either make your punches really powerful or make you able to do multiple punches in quick speed like a jojo stand.

  • @M_Alexander
    @M_Alexander ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A "Mineral" Badge actually still makes sense since she's said to have previously been a Rock type specialist. Other gyms have also changed types without changing the badge; it happened twice in Gen 2, once in Gen 3, and twice again in Gen 5. Gen 7 doesn't have gyms but still changed specialists

  • @TigirlakaLaserwolf6
    @TigirlakaLaserwolf6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As of this ep I've realized why i clicked so immediately with your videos.
    Between the steel bolt turning bit and the dragon thing, you're basically Steve from Blue's Clues for niche pokemon content
    This is a good thing, to be clear. It makes me smile

  • @Duskbase
    @Duskbase ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:24 You could say the city's name is a port-manteau

  • @BusinessSkrub
    @BusinessSkrub ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There's a fighting move called Storm Throw, maybe the badge shares that sense of "storm" they use for the move

  • @erocketman7611
    @erocketman7611 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought of Chuck's Storm Badge as like "storming the beach", Normandy, fighting

  • @joaocisne556
    @joaocisne556 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm loving this series about the badges

  • @theimaginatrix7625
    @theimaginatrix7625 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always assumed the Storm badge was called that because of how sometimes someone's anger is described as _stormy,_ and anger/temper often leads to violence? It made sense to me. :D

  • @jackofspades4000
    @jackofspades4000 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I absolutely love these videos. They’re so easy for me to stay engaged and binge

  • @Gokkee
    @Gokkee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Plain badge looks exactly like a traffic sign 😆 😂
    And it technically fits since the main road goes straight through town with smaller intersections that should stop for the main road, just like the traffic sign 😆

  • @hiddenability4724
    @hiddenability4724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Something else about Whitney, she was originally supposed to have a baseball theme, with an aipom on her team, I like to think the diamond shape calls back to this a little

  • @alexanderrobertson9297
    @alexanderrobertson9297 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got the mahogany reference the first time. So good to see it come up here.

  • @MagillanicaLouM
    @MagillanicaLouM ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still a very cool series idea. Something touched on at the end there is maybe looking into how the HMs/TMs rewarded from each gym may tie into the badge theme, if they do

  • @AhPook
    @AhPook ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So one thing you missed with the Mineral Badge, Jasmine was originally a Rock Type leader before the discovery of the Steel Type.
    So, thematically it being the Mineral Badge makes far more sense with this little caveat known.

  • @wikiuser92
    @wikiuser92 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your description of Chuck's Storm Badge's name is completely off. Quoting Bulbapedia:
    "The Storm Badge's English name may be derived from the lucha libre wrestler Fray Tormenta-also the inspiration for Crasher Wake-whose name translates as "Friar Storm"."

  • @Alehud42
    @Alehud42 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An extra thing on the Plain Badge: the design closely resembles a road sign, fitting for the most urbanised city in the region.

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      Specifically a warning sign found in the U.S. and Australia.

  • @bayonettaaran4630
    @bayonettaaran4630 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the videos! Love the references for Mahogany Effie AND King Yemma!! ❤ Keep up the fun and enjoy the work!

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to know that he's a DBZA fan. King Yemma (a.k.a. Enma Dai-Ou) will talk your ear off about his mahogany desk before he proceeds to do his job.

  • @LanturnsPannies
    @LanturnsPannies ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these badges. They really please me the most aesthetically with their colorful and cartoonish designs 😊

  • @lordofninjas1
    @lordofninjas1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video. I'm excited to hear you say you'll be continuing the series. Also, the Gen 2 cities are named after colors and plants, not colors and trees, as Violet, Azalea, and Goldenrod are flowers.

  • @omegav1252
    @omegav1252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i kinda miss the way the badges had unique names
    since sword and shield its just "Insert Type name" badge
    the last original badge was the Iceberg Badge in XY
    10 YEARS AGO

  • @biohazard724
    @biohazard724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Storm is also a quick and sudden assault on a defended position "storming the castle gates"

  • @Magnet_Chaos
    @Magnet_Chaos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm shocked that Whitney early connection to baseball was not mention in this video.
    You know. With the badge essentially being a baseball plate. And her being shown with baseball gear in early artworks.
    And even know her design is still low key a baseball uniform. And Milktank turning into a ball.

  • @winsky1989
    @winsky1989 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m pretty sure I didn’t even realize that Kanto was apart of Crystal as a kid 😅 I was so engrossed in the new mechanics and the fact that I got to play as a girl

  • @vannah6210
    @vannah6210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do a video explaining Miltanks lore! 😂 it's my fave Pokémon and I'm surprised you haven't already covered that Pokémon. I subscribed just to ask this❤

  • @nilsonpetrin1882
    @nilsonpetrin1882 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I found out that the Whitney was originally going to be baseball themed, I started to see her badge as a baseball diamond.

  • @OHKOKyle
    @OHKOKyle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pokemon Gold Silver when going back to Kanto, still blows my mind today.
    Thank you Mr. Iwata. One of many reasons why I loved you man

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:18 hey Roy's grandpa in horizons is Pryce. Just look at Pryce's original sprite.

  • @NoizZy_
    @NoizZy_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i always thought "rising" meant rising from a deep slumber as dragons are often depicted sleeping alot, AND YOU CAN GET YOUR SLEEP TOO WITH HELIX!!

  • @christianwalters2226
    @christianwalters2226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was waiting for the DBZA reference when you got to Mahogany Town😂

  • @themoabrigade
    @themoabrigade ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for the fighting gym I do also like the "shock badge" more.... cuz it just make me think of "shock and awe" as in being in shock and awe... OF THESE PECKS!!!

  • @SJrad
    @SJrad ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:15 or an ice cube in an ICEometric projection

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To me growing up I always thought the rising badge looked like a skull

  • @jaidenfrench6744
    @jaidenfrench6744 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In universe the Olivine city gym used to be a rock type gym, and when you look at it like that the mineral badge makes sense, they just haven't changed it yet.

  • @Mac_Spector
    @Mac_Spector ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I realized that the mineral badge looks like a polished, flat Boulder badge

  • @superspider64
    @superspider64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God the way you just went "oh" when you pulled the cartridge out at the start just destroyed me for some reason lmao

  • @ZitroKingCX
    @ZitroKingCX ปีที่แล้ว

    I normally put my phone down during the sponsor part of videos but watching yours keeps me entertained as I watch the entire video...
    Kudos to you for that 😁

  • @saiyan4414
    @saiyan4414 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if I remember correctly, I think the bug badge is in generation five with burgh.

    • @darkraidisciple8717
      @darkraidisciple8717 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Burgh's badge was the insect badge. Viola from Kalos had the bug badge, as well as Katy from Paldea, although I'm reluctant to count the generation 8 onwards gym leaders since as a whole badges are now named the same as the type.

  • @maxspecs
    @maxspecs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love that even Bugsy, the bug master, would rather use a Metapod and a Kakuna than a Ledyba.

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      Given that his Scyther is best known for using Fury Cutter, starting with two Pokémon pupae lulls you into a false sense of an easy win.

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how you say Mahogany like King Yemma.

  • @redwolfe16
    @redwolfe16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the DBZA King Yemma reference.

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      "MAHOGANY!" -Enma Dai-Ou a.k.a. King Yemma

  • @serismith1798
    @serismith1798 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hear me out... The Plain Badge is a diagonal slice of individually wrapped cheese. Whitney is a cow trainer...

    • @tetravega567
      @tetravega567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kraft(TM) Singles Badge

  • @DigiRangerScott
    @DigiRangerScott ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:47 Do you ever know that you’re my rhombus? You are the rhombus in my wings

  • @MysticMylesZ
    @MysticMylesZ ปีที่แล้ว

    8:14 the force badge, the thrust badge, the power badge.

  • @nick-playercharacter8583
    @nick-playercharacter8583 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's called the Shock Badge in Japan because YOU WA SHOCK!!!

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:54 Here I am! / Rock me like a hurricane!

  • @TheYoMandude
    @TheYoMandude ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Storm badge or "Shock" badge might have to do with dynamic punch being in this gen for the first time! In Japanese versions, its called exploding punch. So it could be the shock of such explosive power.

  • @ArthurN9
    @ArthurN9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    King Yemma and Effie Trinket in one video?! I would have never expected it!

  • @300kyuubi
    @300kyuubi ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh, not once did I ever question the badges. But now I’m glad you made this. Thank you

  • @Super_Top_Secret_Area
    @Super_Top_Secret_Area ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:41 there it is, he said it!

  • @GabrielCarvalho-zn7wj
    @GabrielCarvalho-zn7wj ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Video suggestion: explain the japanese names of the Scarlet & Violet mon

  • @Sparkz147
    @Sparkz147 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice DBZA shout out. Don't know where the other reference is from? Can someone let me know

  • @SuperUmizoomi
    @SuperUmizoomi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "i'm six i don't know what a zephyr is"
    this guy never had a mythology phase

  • @thedude7319
    @thedude7319 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    05:55 that is a square not a rhomboid. all sides are equal to each other in length at 90 degree intercetions

  • @luukzilla1519
    @luukzilla1519 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've a question, could Rhydon be related to Nidoqueen and Nidoking?

    • @anden4518
      @anden4518 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Every pokemon comes from mew so yes

    • @philipgelderblom6878
      @philipgelderblom6878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Possibly, both are rhino like bipedal monsters

    • @tetravega567
      @tetravega567 ปีที่แล้ว

      What abut Scyther & Kabutops?

    • @luukzilla1519
      @luukzilla1519 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@tetravega567They are more then likely not related

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luukzilla1519 Given that Kabutops likely existed back in the Devonian, it came before Scyther who given its order first appeared in the Cretaceous.

  • @Mike_Ka-Chowski
    @Mike_Ka-Chowski ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this isn't about the Gym Leaders and just the badge, but it really blew my mind when I heard the word "Rigor Mortis" for the first time and thought "IS THAT WHY THE GHOST GYM LEADER WAS NAMED MORTY?!" Now I have same reaction today learning that Falkner's name is a pun on Falconer.

    • @lordofninjas1
      @lordofninjas1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More or less. It's actually derived from the same root word "mort" which is French I believe for dead or death. That's where we also get words like mortician and mortuary.

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordofninjas1 As Martin Prince points out, the Latin word "morire" means "to die"

  • @sonicsega1699
    @sonicsega1699 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont know why i love these badge episodes so much

  • @ragdolltech3526
    @ragdolltech3526 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 0:57 he pulls the cartridge out and jumps implying he took it out while it was on, however with the original GameBoy he couldn't, there was a latch that filled the corner gap on the original cartridges that stopped you pulling it out while the system was on

  • @NightFreeze9128
    @NightFreeze9128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bro I had to take a second to process how insanely clever the Plain Badge triple-meaning is. Guess it's not plain at all

  • @zacharrowood6178
    @zacharrowood6178 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I laugh out loud literally every single time you say it all comes together

  • @Witch_Blair
    @Witch_Blair ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The glacier badge should've been a stylized snowflake with 6 points instead of a hexagon

  • @djimonmcdonald9085
    @djimonmcdonald9085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About the olivine part it could be shown as a reference for jasmine being new to steel.
    You know. Being green as a novice to something?

  • @dumbsterdives
    @dumbsterdives ปีที่แล้ว

    one thing i like about the glacier badge is you can also read it as a cube viewed from an angle. like. like a. like an ice cube. heh.

  • @weirdguy1495
    @weirdguy1495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good, you got both King Yama and Effie in there with Mahogany Town.

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      "MAHOGANY!" -Enma Dai-ou a.k.a. King Yemma.

  • @Wolfbane382
    @Wolfbane382 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have never played these older games, so I find these gym badges interesting. ^_^

    • @dragoon1090
      @dragoon1090 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're missing out. They're pretty good.

  • @makama489
    @makama489 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My desk is made out of Mahogany. Mahogany

  • @brilliantsableye2591
    @brilliantsableye2591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:32 Does Lugia have feathers? In the 2nd episode of Pokémon Journeys Goh described the skin on Lugias back as rough.

    • @JamesDavy2009
      @JamesDavy2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it didn't, the Silver Wing wouldn't exist.

  • @gabrielclamens3151
    @gabrielclamens3151 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting ! In french, most of the name are similar, if not pure translation, such as :
    Le badge Zéphyr (Zephyr badge)
    Le badge Plaine (Plain badge)
    Le badge Brume (Fog badge)
    Le badge Minéral (Mineral badge)
    Le badge Glacier (Glacier badge)
    and finally, Le badge Lever (Rising badge)
    The meaning may be slightly different, but you get it, we have two different ones though, the bug and fighting ones
    The hive badge is called "Le badge Essaim" aka, swarm badge which...well, doesn't make much more sense I guess ?
    The storm badge is called "Le badge Choc" ! Which is literally...Shock badge ? Or Impact badge, which can carry the same water meaning in a way, but seems to suit more the fighting one, after all, when you get punched...you get shocked ! Or it does an impact !
    Also looks a lot like Chuck ironically

  • @ТеодорДочов-з6и
    @ТеодорДочов-з6и ปีที่แล้ว

    01:44 Let’s not forget, that
    That Lugia’s Feather Kinda looks like a Badge. Like
    From the Anime.

  • @Regal-T
    @Regal-T ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe a bit of a stretch but getting the Rising Badge from Clair, the Dragon type gym leader could be a nod to the classic Shoryuken move, which translates to "rising dragon fist"

  • @luisantoniovacamolina2362
    @luisantoniovacamolina2362 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the Sephiroth badge

    • @tetravega567
      @tetravega567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mewtwo: Mother...
      Ditto: Re... un... ion...
      Mew: !?

  • @lukasfogel7768
    @lukasfogel7768 ปีที่แล้ว

    The plain badge is straight up the same trafficsign that inform a 'main road' in my country

  • @sageryan25
    @sageryan25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lockstin, the Plain Badge is a diamond because Whitney loves softball. It represents a base.

  • @deathsyth8888
    @deathsyth8888 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Lockstin badge would just be a little skull.

  • @foxfireinferno197
    @foxfireinferno197 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the Steel Badge is supposed to be some kind of mirror.

    • @lordofninjas1
      @lordofninjas1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe, some older mirrors were made of metals like bronze from what I understand. Though it looks more like it's metal that's been refined out of the Boulder Badge, since it's the same shape and rocks often contain metals within them.

  • @ChaserNeos
    @ChaserNeos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking at the badge closely, the Plain Badge can resemble a baseball diamond and Whitney dresses in a softball jersey.

  • @eizzah8323
    @eizzah8323 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw someone mention badge names in German so get this: badges in French
    1. Badge Zéphyr (same as English)
    2. Badge Essaim (Swarm Badge)
    3. Badge Plaine (plain as in a grass field, it doesn't have the other implications that Plain does in English)
    4. Badge Brume (Haze Badge, pretty similar in meaning as Fog Badge tbh)
    5. Badge Choc (Hit/Strike/Shock Badge)
    6. Badge Minéral (same as English)
    7. Badge Glacier (same as English)
    8. Badge Lever (similar meaning to Rising Badge, lever -> the act of getting up or rising)

  • @MiraNecole
    @MiraNecole ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess Storm Badge could also be a sneaky reference to Lugia, since Lugia's dex states that it can cause 40-day lasting powerful storms by flapping its wings and Lugia tends to live in the ocean and given the location of the gym's town...
    Yes I know Lugia isn't a Fighting type but ya never know

  • @ТеодорДочов-з6и
    @ТеодорДочов-з6и ปีที่แล้ว

    1:55 And Bugzy Doesn’t have
    The Gen 2 Bugs Ladybug or
    Ladian … But Scither Metapod
    And what ever else.

  • @stacygibson5309
    @stacygibson5309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I literally have notifications on for Hoenn since it’s my favorite

  • @danilolopez3005
    @danilolopez3005 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One should take notice on how in the lore, it makes sense to call it mineral badge since the gym was formly a rock type gym before steel type was discovered.

  • @sincerely_sillikers
    @sincerely_sillikers ปีที่แล้ว +3

    im currently addicted to soul silver, so this is perfect timing lol

  • @jaschabull2365
    @jaschabull2365 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who else knew what a zephyr was by the time they got into Pokémon because they recalled Owl referring to the Blustery Day as that in Winnie the Pooh?
    It can't just be me, can it? There's no way everyone else missed Disney's biggest source of merchandise in its animated canon, right?!
    Also, gotta love how it only just hit on me that the Plain Badge's name has more than one meaning moments before you explained it. Never thought of it before, but the badge is surprisingly well designed for being so simple!