One aspect that this show had over the original was that the narrative didn't frame Adult/Teenager relationships as romantic. Tabby is rightfully creeped out by Wes' uncomfortable advances on her.
I mean, yes and no. Wes tried to kiss her, manipulated her to make her stay in his house and made a whole date for her. He's a pedophile. Even so, he has no consequences for it. Tabby is still his friend, she trusts him to to take her home late in the night, when her mom accused him about being nasty and all that she was treated like she was wrong and crazy and even when he said to her mom he tried something with her he had no legal consequences and it's just there with his live. Also the fact that Imogen gave her baby to such amazing parents that are Ezra and Aria even when he's a pedophile too. At the start they did good, as you said they made it like something wrong and creepy, I thought they were talking the correct path but then all of this happened and tbh they just didn't do it right.
I agree. However, I felt it was kinda weird she was going to his house and everything especially with her being assaulted, but I guess because she knew him it wasn't super uncomfortable
@@rivyr7029 they wanted to bring original characters and ezria, even disturbing, were the most loved couple by the community they also probably were the only ones to accept
I’m sorry but I HATED the way tabitha’s character was written, like we get it!! she likes movies!! you don’t need to shoehorn in a movie reference every 5 seconds that honestly just reminds me of a better thing I could be watching
totally, her entire personality doesn't need to be that she likes movies! She is a well-rounded character with lots of different interests I'm sure, not just movies.
@@quizbangandedits1134 I swear, out of all the girl she was the only one I didn't like. I was very angry when she complain against chip finishing the video (she literally walked out being 'unprofessional'). I felt like she didn't let the guy do anything unless it was her idea/her doing it. This doesn't mean I support chip oc, but it seemed like narcissist behaviour to me
@@narunatsu1 SAME. I dont like chip, but there were times where i felt like she was a bit self-centered and rude with him. I guess he let it happen bc he SA her. The scene where she argued with tyler at the party was so CRINGE, and her filming the boys in the locker room was beyond weird.
The only things I didn’t like about the reboot was Mouse’s storyline, the A reveal and who it was, and the lil Ezria sneak at the end because it defeated the entire purpose of them calling out predatory relationships in other plot lines but then describing them as a ‘perfect couple’. Other then that, I loved the series. The cast was incredible, the episodes had me hooked, and it was promising for a first season. I look forward to where the story goes in the second season
My thoughts exactly! The A reveal was a bit underwhelming to be honest, but it doesn't erase how enjoyable the rest of the show was. But describing Aria and Ezra as the perfect couple after making such a good plot about grooming being bad... it's like they didn't learn their lesson. Ik in the original it was Aria who found out she couldn't have kids but they could have still chosen literally any other one of the girls to opt for an adoption
@@biihisme like emily. she's gay, she isn't getting a baby unless she enters a relationship with someone non-cis but i do believe the other liars just didn't want to get there and lucy have plus the guy did
I think them calling them the perfect couple was on purpose. the girls don’t truly know who they were but who they are in the present just like the moms storyline. Also plays into the idea that you truly never what happens behind closed doors you only know what people want you to know about them.
@@brandonpadilla5402 yeah but at the same time, for the audience that does know what happened and have now reflected on the impact that that relationship had years after the show finished, it was just a terrible choice. Like out of everyone in the OG show they update us on Ezria and tell us that not only are they happily adopting Imogen’s baby but also fulfilling their dreams and the predator has a book store? Yeah that wasn’t it. A recall to the OG in a pretty terrible way and their response to fans criticism is that they still stand by Ezria
I audibly groaned when they said Aria and Ezra were adopting the baby. Because we really need to be putting another child into that groomer’s life. I mean Ezra was in a relationship with not one but two high school students! One of which he actively sought out and stalked. I knew they were going to say Aria and Ezra but I really hoped for a moment that they’d say Hanna and Caleb. What was the point of the Wes subplot if they were going to continue romanticizing Ezra’s creepy ass!
I get where you’re coming from, but I think you’re reading way too much into it. The fact is that although this show is in the same universe as the original, it’s a completely different story with completely different characters. I think the writers just wanted to feed the fans of the original show by giving some of the OG characters attention/a small place in the story, and Aria and Ezra are really the only couple that it makes sense for the writers to have adopt Imogen’s baby. Spencer and Toby were never confirmed endgame by the end of pll, Emily and Allison split according to pll: the perfectionists, andd Hanna and Caleb we’re already pregnant when the original pll ended. We know that Aria can’t have children of her own, and Ezria said they wanted children, so they were the best choice. No, I don’t condone and never will condone the way that Ezria got together and how a lot of their relationship was, but this was just a fun thing from the writers to bring in some OG characters.
And they always gloss over how young Alison was. When Ezra & Aria meet, she's 16. Alison was missing a year...and they said at one point it was 'almost' a year before that that Eza & Alison knew each other. So....she was maybe 14? or barely 15?? So gross. And It did feel like they were trying to bait viewers like, if they mention Aria & Ezra maybe they will somehow convince them to join the cast or something.
It negates everything the show is about too!! The message of os is seemingly about sexual assault awareness and prevention but Ezra? A predator gets a baby? Im confused.
I was watching with a friend and the moment she said that she found rhe oerfect couple I legit say “they better fucking not” and my friend is like “oh no” and we legit paused it at their name to sit there and process the anger for like 20 seconds
The ending was so lack luster. I literally felt NOTHING when the principal walked out. I enjoyed some aspects of the show but none of the stakes felt high enough for me. By the end everyone is all kumbaya by the fucking chrsitmas tree, literally.... and none of the girls have any dirt on them to go on for a second season.
@@kawaiidemonprincess right. Like don't get me wrong I love the main cast of girls. They're amazing. But the moms have the back story I want to watch🤷♀️ I think Mouse had the most compelling story to tell or get into, but they dont really have time to explore sidestories with their 10 episode limit🥲
well it wasnt built up over years. so not as much character development for us to really feel anything. still more screentime than the "twincer A" reveal tho lmao xD
I feel like the A in the original show was more interesting because they felt human. The new “a” in original sin doesn’t feel like a human, but just an evil serial killer that kills for the hell of it without motive or reason
Yeah which is weird. Cause who did the texting? The principal? That’s weird. The theory of having a Young A and Older A working together would’ve been cool
A in the original series felt unrealistic imo, they had too much time & money to be building things (dollhouse) & being everywhere but nowhere at the same time. All that money & time to commit to harassing the girls but they were supposed to be a teenager, too. It was almost supernatural. To me, that wasn't human, they felt like a ghost.
Literally every outfit Imogen wore looked like it was taken from a 1970 set of Little House on the Prairie. WHY DID THEY DO HER LIKE THAT?? SHE WAS PREGNANT NOT BLIND!
Also the fact that he is named Archie and the reboot plays in the same universe as Riverdale (who also have an Archie)... it's a bit unsettling and seems like preparation for a crossover or something... (For Roberto Archie is basically a self insert or original character)
These are two very different shows. The reboot definitely has it's own appeal. I really liked how things wrapped up while still leaving room for more mystery. The acting from the main girls is lackluster but the involvement of parents is way more interesting than the original. I didn't even notice the swearing. I like the comedic horror villain scenes. Very entertaining. The girls dress and act more like teenagers in this one.
I totally agree! the dialogue that is kinda cringe or makes them seem dumb is much more on par with how 15-17 year olds act. Also, I think the wardrobe was true to how teenage girls would try to dress themselves to stay on trend if that makes sense
That last sentence is very true. When I watched the original show I couldn't help thinking how unrealistic it was, "girls my age don't dress this mature" & "where the fuck is A getting all this money & time from to harass them & build a whole ass dollhouse?" A lot of didn't make sense
I think the thing that's missing is the humor. I think the original show's charm was its really funny one liners which we don't see here. And when they try to attempt humor it often ends up being cringy.
I’m so glad this video and opinion exists, cause I truly thought I was the only one who thought these things. When I finished the finale I honestly thought “okay this good…it was okay. It added absolutely nothing to tv, did nothing new. but it was..good” I love the diverse cast and I appreciated it.
i can see some of the writing being cringy but i preferred the swearing lol (maybe bc i’m 20 and this is how ppl actually talked in highschool) Overall i really feel like they did a better job with the mystery aspect and i liked that there was more murder. i agree that the A reveal was a bit anticlimactic but overall i really enjoyed this show even if it’s mediocre. also they handled SA so much better in this show which i appreciated.
I'm 20 also, and the dialogue did seem somewhat accurate to how teens talk, especially with the over use of buzz words, because of Tik Tok, so many people over use gaslight, misogyny, stereotypes, sociopath, words like that, because teens want to sound smart and when they find out about words like that, they use them, even if it comes off a little cringe. And I think the cussing was also accurate because they're suppose to be like 15/16 and when you're that age, you still think cussing makes you sound cool and older so you do it as much as you can, until its not exciting to u anymore yanno?
I tend to prefer realistic dialogue as it helps with immersion, but when it is genuinely annoying to listen to a lot of scenes, I have to say I'd gladly sacrifice it for perfect dialogue or at least a middle ground.
I agree about the dialogue. I'm young too and I never felt like it was over the top, not the swearing or the buzz words. It sounded pretty normal with how other kids around my age talk and tbh I thought it was kinda impressive (usually teen shows mess up teenagers' dialogue so badly, it sounds very "how do you do fellow kids" and is super cringy; here it was actually very natural)
One huge issue I had with Original Sin was the lack of emphasis placed on grief and trauma. Imogen has JUST lost her mother, essentially her only parent and family, to a harrowing suicide/murder, yet barely a month later she is behaving relatively normally. After everything Tabby and Imogen have gone through with being r*ped, there's zero emphasis placed on grief and trauma and processing this. Pretty Little Liars did a good job showing grief, from the liars processing Alison's "death", to the absolutely heartbreaking performance of Emily when they find Maya's body. The girls also go to therapy relatively regularly (given the timeframe back then), to see Dr. Sullivan to resolve some of what they are going through. I think the fact that all of the girls in Original Sin are acting relatively normally without processing pain and trauma is creating a huge disconnect from reality. As you said, seeing Imogen with the Ouija board cursing out her mom for dying seems...almost rude. It's just not a natural reaction. Pretty Little Liars had wayyyy more episodes per season, which is why they were probably able to spend more time building real personalities for each girl, and giving us time to see each friendship and each relationship separately, giving us screen time to see the girls grieve, cope, and deal with their own problems. It humanized them, whereas all of the characters except maybe Tabby felt two-dimensional in Original Sin, like their only purpose was to drive the plot ahead.
Also I found it strange how A spared the girls to go after chip at the movie theatre so we think he has a conscious and then so easily want to kill Imogen at the end.
He attacked only "bullies". That deranged man told him that Imogen was "a bully". Apparently, he's not mentally well and is easily manipulated; I'd say even "programmed".
@@theclairewhy I think so as well, but like why would he show up to the cinema to them in the 1st place? And run after Noa in her apartment? It doesn’t really make sense somehow.. I hope we’ll get more answers which make some of the things more sense in s2
Hi Serena! I actually surprisingly ended up liking PLL: Original Sin and I think the show is much better than Riverdale. I actually liked the new liars characters and their actresses and the concept/storyline of the show. I will say, I do miss the campiness factor that was more prevalent in the original Pretty Little Liars. Also, I was glad to see more representation of characters of color and LGBTQ characters compared to the original Pretty Little Liars. I do agree that the show is trying to redeem different storylines/themes that the original fail to depicted sensitively, so I really appreciate it. But the ending was a little bit underwhelming for me but overall I kind of liked it. Who knew. But I can understand why there some people who don’t. I wonder if the show will decide to continue with a season 2. Thank you for sharing!
@@Shey-z9b Yes. For real. Have you seen the recent season 6 of Riverdale? I like campiness in media but what on earth is happening there? Apparently there’s a parallel universe where all of the main characters have magical powers and now there’s a crossover with chilling adventure of Sabrina. At least this show has a kind of coherent plot.
Edit: I was not expecting to get so many likes on my comment. Thank you so much. I do agree there were a couple plot holes in the story that I wish they could have expanded upon or there were a couple of missed opportunities. But I will say there were a lot of plot holes and flaws in the original PLL too. Thinking about it now there were a couple characters that I felt were kind of underutilized. So I wonder if the show does decide to continue with a season 2, how would that go from there.
I really CANNOT believe that after the infamy that was the OG PLL A.D reveal of “secret twin no one knew about” the reboot decided to end its FIRST season, the season that sets its legacy with….. a “secret twin no one knew about” A reveal. Like I don’t believe it’s possible the writers were that dense. Why would you have your first “A” reveal be the VERY thing that destroyed the original show’s legacy. Did they not watch the original?!?!?! Ironically after this rant I’ve been on, all I can say is… I have no words.
Honestly I thought the first couple episodes had a good set up, but it didn't really have a good pay off. The final reveal was lackluster, like, the principal being Angela's dad felt like a copout. Also, I noticed Noa and Mouse never really contributed to the main plot which annoyed me, especially considering they're main characters. I kinda wish Kelly would've been a main character instead but that's just me.
THIS! 100% agreed. The whole show felt like the Tabby and Imogen show featuring Faran. Mouse and Noa didn’t contribute to the main plot and their own storylines weren’t very interesting imo. I really thought Mouse or Noa was gonna die at the end considering their lack of character.
@@CryKaze yeah! this tends to be a massive trend in tv shows, as the writers can’t seem to find a way to make sure everyone’s storyline is equally important and interesting or somehow correlate to the main plot… i really wanted more from noa tbh and for her boring ass bf to d*e or something to add spice! both mouse and noa had interesting storyline’s that had potential- but i just think how they were written separate to the main plot- really really confused me! 🫤
Also why would he even care about Angela? He made very clear in his narration he was out of her and her mother’s lives and had no attachment to them. So why does he give a shit now?
To my surprise, I actually did really like the show, however nowhere near as much as the original one! The original PLL will always have my heart with its ridiculous plot lines but also the nostalgia for it. Also, I personally just prefer something that’s not as scary! Can’t wait to hear your review, love your videos! :)
There was no reason for this to be called Pretty Little Liars… It’s a good show, the writing and story was good, but it’s NOT pretty little liars. It’s a good slasher/horror teenage angst show and that’s just it.
All of the things you mentioned are just typical mistakes Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa makes from one show to another (Riverdale, Sabrina, Supergirl). It's just literally like he has this type of list and follows it: * cringy dialogues in a "teen" style (even though NO ONE talks like that) - done, * the caricatured portrayal of any socially relevant topics (feminism, racism, all sorts of abusive behavior) - done etc. Just my humble opinion : stop assigning Roberto as a show-runner to potentially cool projects, he ruins them (sooner or later). If the first seasons of his projects can still be called more or less successful, it's going to get worse after that. Look at the Riverdale and Sabrina. There' s a fiasco waiting for us.
Ugh it SUCKS to see because I wanna see these issues talked more about in shows, tv, and media but everyone who does it does it in SUCH an annoying and (like you said) caricatured way that makes me HATE IT. Like I'm a black woman, I love seeing other black women in these shows but the way Tabbi and Faran talked were just so unrealistic and cringey. It made me hate Tabby, and I was okay with Faran because she did it significantly less but it was still...weird whenever they randomly jumped into SJW mode. Especially because (at least with Faran) the topic would be set up, she'd make a comment, and then that was it (i.e. when she changed her hair, her dad getting arrested, etc.)
Yup! The original PLL was better at executing LGBTQ storylines with Emily, Maya, Paige, & Alison, & with Charlotte/CeCe as a transwoman. It was done more realistically and not cringe the way the new iteration PLL is
I totally agree with you that you could tell the show was written by much older adults. My teenage son and I watched the whole season together and he said multiple times "teenagers don't talk like that" or 'no one acts like that" or "Mom, no one my age dresses like that" etc. The Christmas scene had him literally laughing hysterically. He said "Mom, that wouldn't happen, that just wouldn't happen" lol
Also in the original, Toby was SAed by Jenna and it was never talked about. Like really talked about. Like he was terrified by Jenna at some point. Like he was scared for anyone to be on their porch if Jenna was home. And she even slapped him. She made him do those things with him and it was just left like that and they were even cool by the end of the show. Jenna actually had his number and could call him. That's so unrealistic. I'm not saying it's impossible but it's just gross that they kept them in contact. Like no one is going to keep in contact with someone who raped them if they had a choice. I do not like how the original pll handled sexual assault at all. Same with Emily, Hanna, and even Hanna's mom (officer Wilden) I do agree that the outfits were a bit off at some point. Also, why were none of them telling Imogen to sit the hell down and take her prenatal vitamins? Like why was she rippin and runnin around as pregnant as she was? If I was her friend I would leave her out of the mystery hunting. I also hate how when they went on missions they never brought weapons except for that one time. That also bothered me in the original.
The "let's kill Karen" thing could've been saved if at the start of episode 2 Imogen would've said "...'s reputation." and then the other girls would've been like "Holy shit why did you say it like that?? I was scared for a sec."
Just binged the season, I’m not crazy about it. I feel like I have more questions then answers. The whole mouse drama really confused me. The fact that her mother is keeping her locked in this bubble. Especially knowing the truth about what actually happened to mouse. It was so stupid. I thought the back story would be way better. They could have made the back story a really insane spider web. The amount of profanity in this show was absolutely ridiculous. There isn’t one character that I like more then the other. I thought the fight at the party was so stupid. Tyler getting attacked in the bathroom was laughable. I don’t feel like them all hating Karen is enough reason to become friends. I feel like none of the cast has chemistry. They feel like a bunch of puzzle pieces jammed together. Before the end of season one, of PLL, I felt like i knew the characters so well. I felt a connection to every character. With this new show I feel nothing. If one of the main characters died off, I would be fine. P.S I think what Wes did was absolutely disgusting. Plotting to get tabby to come over to his house for her flash drive. Then he is making her dinner like they’re on a date. She never agreed to that. She is in high school and he looks 40. Wes creeps me out.
The reboot is missing fun and campyness. Remember when "A" put the letter A in Emily's cereal or when there was bees in Aria's mom's car and she didn't have the brains to get out of the car.
Let's not forget when A payed girls to play with Dolls the resembled each girl in the first episode of season 4. A was always spontaneous and dramatic 😩😭
The text were so DRY. The girls didn't even get terrified by them at one point. Just like "Ugh A again 🙄." The original A texts were so catchy and memorable. Don't ask me what a single text said in the reboot! The text Mouse sent to her OWN MOM was more threatening than the texts they received from A smh
I just felt like we needed more episodes like the 20-23 episodes. I understand the filler episodes were annoying but I think it added to its charm. Though I heard that a lot of actors were overworked doing that per season and we don’t want that. Overall I agree with what you said but I enjoyed the first season just not the finale.
The original show was everything! I loved how shocked the ladies were when the got a text 😂 plus the fashion was and the pretty factor was big reason I enjoyed the original. Alison can’t be touched. Edit: thank god you mentioned the fashion I thought I was the only one who cared. Exactly the show is supposed to be pretty with a soap opera type filter.
I knew it was the principal from when Imogen said “ who else can we think of that’s A someone from our moms time” then comes principal clanton speaking on the speaker. On top of that I wish the girls had more secrets for A to try and exploit and blackmail them with, for example A could’ve blackmailed noa by threading to get her mom sent to jail for lying about the drugs etc
I honestly think that the focus being more on “why is A doing this” rather than “who is A” makes it work. Because the identity reveal was kinda bad like is that mask a mask or is that his face 😂
The most surprising thing to me is Tabby making horror movie references through out the whole show but no comment when they were yeeted into a Saw movie
I completely agree with you. The OG show had its issues but you can’t say it wasn’t entertaining. This reboot was trying too hard to be something different that it ended up being way too different. The finale (specifically the last half) felt WAY too cartoonish especially finding out who A is. I actually found myself laughing and not in a good way. They had no secrets for A to expose, and the “A” texts weren’t even signed by A except like the first one. I think they just tried too hard and the mystery aspect suffered.
Not me ready for a 2 hour deep dive of more of your opinions on PLL OS lol. Great video Serena, positive thoughts and things you feel could have been done better love it!
I enjoyed the show until the a reveal honestly If they plan to do multiple a’s I don’t think this one should have been revealed till season two or three and if this is the only a then definitely shouldn’t have been revealed till the last season
I definitely agree that they tried to cover too many topics in such s short season, and Tabby's character really suffered for it. I may have really liked her, but she was the only one who's story line MAINLY covered SA AND misogyny AND made so many obnoxious horror movie references and spelled everything out like we can make inferences, as viewers, based on her reactions to things. I like that she always spoke up for herself and said what she was feeling, especially to the awful men around her, but it felt like a lot was dumped on her character to tackle as many hot-topic issues as possible which was way too much. Mouse's story could have been so scary and intense, but it felt like Steve was about to literally do something awful, like he was an actual predator, but then her moms show up and they all hug and they take her home. Like? Send that man to prison? also, there was never a time that I suspected him as being A or leather face which was a big missed opportunity. On the flipside of that, I never felt since the moment I saw leather face that he intended to hurt the girls at all. I knew they were never in any actual danger. It really took away from the suspense. Mainly, the show doesn't focus on the "Liars" at all. The "Liars" in this show are the mothers. The daughters are all basically innocent, which is why I couldn't get invested in them. Our original liars were victims as well, but also had their own secrets of things they did that were wrong. We have Mouse's weird thing with all those parents and Tabby filming the boy's locker room, but neither of those are ever really confronted. We never learn WHY Tabby was filming those guys. Was she trying to find her attacker? Was she hoping to hear them talk about something? Did she want to make them feel violated in her own way to cope? Like what WAS that? and A being the principal was so cheap, we hardly ever see him in the show and Archie was a throw away and deserved more story line! the girls could have learned about who he was and then thought hey, maybe Archie is A or something. We also never got an Archie face reveal, which was super disappointing.
I wanted to like Tabby so bad but? While I can see several motives for her to do what she did with the filming, I can’t really forgive her for filming that. It’s predatory, not all those boys are guilty of sexual crimes. And obviously they didn’t and couldn’t consent to that. It’s not okay to assault innocent people because you were harmed. I’m human, I could see the impulse I guess? To cope in a weird way or find her attacker- try to jog your memory- but? None of those boys ended up being guilty as far as she knew of anything. The whole scene with her and Greg filming and he’s naked? I was so? Confused I guess. She’s right to be upset, but if seeing him naked without her permission is assault than why is it okay for her to have a video of him naked in literally the same shower on her laptop- that he didn’t agree to filming. Like babes he’s your victim just like you’re his now. And with Greg, while he doesn’t know it, SHE ASSAULTED HIM FIRST. It’s? It’s a tricky situation that goes so unaddressed as a viewer I can only be like, okay that’s criminal behavior. AS outlined by Tabby’s ethics herself! in the show. I would maybe find this interesting if she was framed as being? Idk less moral in practice than speech or something. If they really utilized this flaw or revenge or something. Blackmailed her with her more sinister truth and if that effected her standing as well morally good and a safe person to be around, but also! That shit would have sent her TO PRISON and it’s not even a secret that’s used in the story really. I was confused by her storyline and characterization.
You do make some good points, I think the whole locker room thing was her trying to out who her attacker was due to her being at a party in the woods, which jocks were at, also because in said locker room, the jocks talk about girls they’ve been with, but I kind of agree with you, it does seem weirdly invasive & could have been played out better.
The last 3 episodes seemed rushed. I feel like upon the A reveal they were indecisive upon the story that they want to use so it seemed kinda…blah. My thing is not enough people pay attention to the theme song so the hints that were in the theme song essentially didn’t resonate with a large group of people. I mean it’s the first season and there still a lot of things that need to be discussed the second season but I definitely feel like the ending wasn’t as great as it could’ve been. Honestly would prefer if they waited to do that it was real or if they have more episodes or just something so that it didn’t seem so rushed. Personally I I think the whole principal being Angela Waters father was.. I don’t know a bit a bad writing?…Being that his character wasn’t presented that much or we didn’t have any hints to him being the perpetrator.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 they could’ve least made him a pawn or implied it or something. It just doesn’t make sense bc if I was Archie, he’d be close to first on my get back list
one thing i feel like no one ever says, if for one time they use more of the material from the books. it’s almost as if they need to mix all three series’s they’ve done, like specific aspects from them all.
Completely agree. I see most people loving this show, but I feel it's soooo empty. The mistery is quite boring and the Liars aren't even related to it. AND the characters aren't well developed (both liars and secundary characters). I just didn't care about them or the mistery, it wasn't interesting. Just a random mix of slasher stuff mixed up, it doesn't have it's own identity like the original PLL had. Wasted potential 🤦🏻♂️
Although PLLOS had a lot of cheesy scenes, I absolutely loved it. It reminds me more of the Scream TV series and not the original PLL. Obviously it won’t beat the original series, but this one had me on the edge of my seat for most of the episodes. However, if PLLOS does gets renewed, I’m nervous that the director will intertwine riverdale & chilling adventures of sabrina with the show. If that happens, it will completely ruin the show.
the director said Riverdale will not be in original sin at all, he just wanted to put an Easter egg in an episode and didn't realize everyone would freak out about it and in a very negative way haha
I also thought of the Scream tv show! Scream Queens too, with the flashbacks and party backstory. I love horror and love all three - PLLOS was a treat.
@@arisboba he said he's not going to haha I think he knows everyone hates Riverdale but for some reason it keeps getting renewed so he's just like fuck it I'm doing whatever I want with this haha
I agree with you. People tend to overhype shows and are already saying it’s better because they did “so well” in the first season only to come back a season or two later to say it went downhill fast. Riverdale did this and PLLOS having the same writer makes me worry that this may follow the same path.
On the contrary? LOL Every single thing that's getting a reboot or renewed is getting beyond BASHED, even before it's come out, just because people tend to love the OG, so they don't even give it a chance. Glad this time is different, based on the huge positive reviews. Idk how, why and when it became trendy to dislike anything nowadays, but ppl are more likely to express negative opinions about anything, rather than say something they actually liked.
@@johnhowardz9524 I just simply don’t like that it’s using the PLL name when it doesn’t feel like PLL and seems more like other shows like Scream Queens. I think that’s where most of us seem disappointed in and some other things as well.
This has to be the first negative review that I've seen of this reboot thus far, since most other reviews sing its praises. I'm looking forward to seeing you unpack your thoughts, Serena! 🍿😁
I literally never comment, but I just finished the show and had the exact same thoughts as you! I went online to see if others agree and was shocked to see how much people loved it. I like how diverse the show is and I think that is it’s greatest strength… everything else is mid at best.
@@xxmakeuplover05xx And I swear you can’t prove anything, because we are talking about opinions here, not argumentative facts jfc🤦🏼♂️. If you don’t like it, fine lmao, but don’t go at people who like it, saying they are preteens and so on, just cause they like the show. Not to mention the fact, in most cases, if the majority in society agrees on something, it’s more likely that it’s true. But since we are talking about something objective here, such as opinions, we can’t say that’s a fact. Also, nowadays people don’t settle for low effort productions and so on? Have you not seen how everything is bashed even before it gets out, just cause nowadays it’s a lot easier to hate on something, or say something negative, rather than point out something you liked? So chill the fuck out, lmao
I think they mentioned Ezria because Bailee Madison is friends with Lucy Hale and Lucy has worked with Roberto before on Katy Keene, so there’s more chance for Lucy to cameo next season. I do like the show, but I don’t think it’s better than the original.
I think PLL OS was pitched as something else, and adapted as PLL reboot. If you remove any of the "A" stuff (a few texts, spray painted, circled A's on posters etc) from this series, it changes absolutely nothing about it. Actually, I'd argue that the removal of the "A" stuff would make the show way more cohesive. Perhaps pitched as slasher/mystery but maybe deemed not a strong enough premise on its own (think Amazon's recent IKWYDLS flop).
You’re so right about the girls outfits though. They are so hard to look at, especially with the girl second to the right with the blue scarf. Like just… why ;; And budget isn’t an excuse, I’ve gone to thrift stores and shit and was able to come up with far better outfits than that. (Thrift stores don’t have ugly clothing, my point is that the clothes are cheap.) That being said, the girl second to the left has a pretty alright outfit. Like it isn’t fantastic but it’s cute and at least bearable to look at.
God, I love your videos! This was really great as always, and even funny in places, thank you! I'm a bit sick this week, so this was right on time, and helped :)
Thanks for the review! You’re disappointed? I’m shocked! I love the new take and I’m glad it’s not fully tied to PLL. The other two spin-offs didn’t do well and had messy plots. I love PLL and the books. The books were always better than the show. I grew up in the time when the books came out and watched the show from the premiere date on ABC Family! PLL to me was meant to be a darker show.
honestly the only characters who reallyyy had charisma were Faran and sometimes Noa. Shawn was hot but boring as fuck. And I don’t understand how they were so close friends after like days ??!?
They probably made aria and Ezra adopt because they might appear or do a cameo. Lucy I believe is the only one kinda close to the show, so I think they might be setting up her appearance if she decides to
I'm really glad that you also felt the same as me on this show. I will say that the first couple episodes were really bad, the fake wokeness and blatant fake feminism was awful, but it did eventually start growing on me. but I was also very upset with the ending.
yeah the feminism did feel forced, i consider myself a feminist and at least for me, at points it felt a little try-hard even though they did their best with it
i don't think this show, despite the name, can really be compared to PLL. especially with Roberto involved, it makes much more sense to compare it to Riverdale season one and other horror type thing. The whole aesthetic is giving very much archieverse, he even had to connect the sisters of quiet mercy, like sir, you can't connect the universes if lucy hale is in both lmao. Like you said, there was a bunch of good, the whole assault storyline was very well handled, and I knew who it was from the psycho scene, I was like sir I stopped trusting you episodes ago. when they sent A after him , i was like get his ass! the chase scenes were all good, very slasher vibes. and i liked that it was a self contained mystery, especially since HBO max is cancelling everything right now, but it did feel like something was missing. - like with Karen and kelly, i kept thinking there would be something there, but by the end of the season, i don't understand half of what kelly does. i wish they showed more of them before, in flashbacks or something, because it's never clear to me what the dynamic is. sometimes they say kelly and Karen are both equally evil, sometimes karen is the evil one and kelly is the more shy one. sometimes karen is the better dancer, sometimes kelly is. we didn't know enough about them for anything to matter or make sense. - i still don,t get why there was a "football team uses drugs" plot in the back, like i get it was connected to noa, but it was dropped way too quickly like none of that is resolved. i wish they gave her a more substantial story. - and faran, i feel like they kept doing random things with her, i liked the general theme of ballet and control and with her mom and stuff, but it's like every episode was a new random thing. there was a way to make it more coherent perhaps. - and mouse, her story, which psychologically is arguably the most interesting, like the trauma and everything, it also felt like it was ended too abruptly with no real resolution. - also, sometimes, the tabby references were so much, i was like damn is this what i sound like when i make references? - also also, the fact that in one season, none of these girls are queer, like okay babes, sure, we'll see about that. - it felt like they wanted to create an insta group of friend that love and support each other with no catty-ness, which i am okay with obviously, but like you said, except for tabby and imogen who we saw bond because they lived together and their shared trauma, the other girls never develop a genuine bond with each other, they're always doing their own thing, i don't think any of them know anything about mouse's stuff, or noa, she was always hanging with her boyfriend. i get they each have their own thing, which is cool, but i wanted a bit more connection maybe. - i thought the mystery of what happened to angela was cool, but we needed to see more i feel. like why would angela keep hanging with those girls if they all treated her like shit? and at the party, they said she looked like a mess, like something happened to her, and that was never addressed. it made sense to me that there would be a mastermind and a mindless brute, very slasher of them, but there was no way of guessing it was the principal and i feel lik you want to be able to guess things. like archie was guessable cuz we saw a picture of him and angela as kids, so thinking she had a brother was possible. but her dad? completely not. we were missing information for the reveal to truly be impactful. - also WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED? WHERE ARE THE BODIES??? OVERALL, i enjoyed the show, i liked watching every week, but it does feel like a lot of fluff and not enough neat. it's vibes and aesthetic over truly good writing that carry the show, and i wish the writing was a bit better.
i agree with just about everything you’ve said. they became friends so fast it felt so rushed to me bc they go from not saying anything to each other to saying they’re bffs in the pilot episode felt so unearned. and then you go from from the stupid dialogue to imogen wanting to abort her baby at SIX MONTHS knowing she wouldn’t be able to like girl get it together. and then they’re all like we’re gonna kill karen and she dies and they’re all shocked when she ACTUALLY DIES was hilarious to me bc i’m like y’all just said you wanted that. and then tabby who had a movie reference every 5 seconds made me wanna claw my eyes out. the whole show trying to dive into SA and then have imogen give her baby to EZRIA OF ALL COUPLES ?!!! YOU HAD THREE COUPLES TO CHOOSE FROM (excluding emison) AND YOU CHOSE THEM?!! and then the A reveal (OF ALL NAMES THEY COULDA CHOSE) the build up was actually getting good towards the end but the mastermind behind it really made me disappointed bc it just wasn’t giving what it was supposed to give and when greg was shot i literally laughed out loud bc i didn’t even realize the principle was holding a gun. everything was so over the top but in the worst of ways. i doubt the writers planned on going past a first season bc there’s nothing to really build off of for future seasons.
Hanna was already pregnant by the end of the original, so that wouldn't make sense. Spencer and Toby weren't thinking about kids at that time. Emily and Alison already had kids. So, Ezra and Aria make the most sense, since they said they were going to adopt. And not to mention that the Lucy Hale, who plays Aria, is friends with the actress who play Imogen irl and is also friends with the producer. And also the original actors couples would have to be willing to come back for a cameo and Lucy Hale wanted to, so it makes sense.
I was completely shocked as well after watching the show I went to the twitter hashtag and saw that everyone was praising it. Sure slasher horror is nice but I thought it made it even more cheesy than the original. I think the main thing is that its too close to river-dale from the small noir town, to the preppy clothes, stereotypical character tropes, all the way down to the original plot being about their parents like that weird dungeons and dragons game.
I actually agree with you. This show had ingredents to be great but ended up falling flat and also despite the problems with the original series I still love it.
I expected them to show for archie to explain his sibling relationship with Angela so there can be some actual weight to what he was doing. I wouldn’t say there wasn’t any clues that Archie was one of the A’s because in the scene where he was in Imogene basement and opened his trunk there was a picture of a little boy and a little girl hinting that Angela had a sibling
Oh yes so there was a clue, good point. But I still felt like it was odd because we didn’t even know anyone called “Archie” so we were never rly given a chance to guess and get it right
@@SerenaSkybourne personally I did guess that off the picture and a lot of other people did too, as well as the fact that A was clearly older and related to Angela but I never would’ve guessed the principal, and even though we didn’t know Archie we knew there was an unidentified A. Waters out there so
Yes. It literally came out of nowhere. Like all of a sudden the girls are finding clues like crayons in a cage and a picture perfectly placed on the floor where it wasn't before when Imogen first visited. There was no relationship building at all. If Archie was staying with Rose Waters (Angela's mom) who was then subsequently taken to Radley after her daughter's death....HOW TF DIDN'T THE POLICE FIND ARCHIE IN THE CAGE? Are we just meant to assume Principal Clanton took him into his care after that? How would no one have noticed??
I personally liked the show. Loved the kind of creepy, horror vibes. To me, it didn't feel like the girls became friends out of nowhere after detention. It felt more like they were bonding over their dislike for Karen but still were not too keen on going down for what happened after publishing the video of Karen cause the girls minus Imogen and Tabbi, wanted to put the blame just on these two. I agree that the final episode was underwhelming. It's a bit like they are not sure whether it gets a second season or not so they tried to tie up as many loose ends as possible. The A reveal was something I didn't expect cause I didn't pay much attention to the principal and Archie. Honestly, Aria and Ezra getting the baby was just for the fans of the original. I guess they gave the baby to Aria and Ezra cause they were the only couple in the original that wasn't able to get kids. Wasn't Hanna pregnant in the last episode? And Spencer never showed any sign that she wouldn't be able to get pregnant so they just thought that Aria and Ezra are the most obvious choice. Something I hated so much was that they called their couples by shipping names. I heard that they did it in Riverdale and I thought it was cringy there. I just never heard someone talking about their relationship like that. Maybe teenagers these days are, I don't know, but it just feels weird to me. Loved your video as always. ☺
I read an article that said in The Perfectionists it's revealed that Aria and Ezra adopt a girl, and because of the time jump the year they did that would've been 2022, so the writers thought it would be a perfect little tie in if the baby they adopted was Imogen's since it fit so perfectly
I was trying to figure out why I didn't like it as much, but you summed it up with "over the top" and when you talked about their boyfriends. They are boring because they are soooo underdeveloped! It makes it feel more like I' watching a tv show, rather than watching these girls living their lives like I felt watching the original.
Farran was my least favorite at the beginning but likewise, she's my favorite now! After confronting the sheriff, standing up to her mom, and staying true to herself! She's so badass!
My favorite character was Mouse from beginning to end (just as Tabitha was my least favorite from beginning to end) but Faran was good too. 😍 Plus, I always thought Faran was the prettiest liar!
About halfway through the show I was SURE that Imogen and Kelly (or Karen, whatever) would be the minds behind it all, because they both remind me of Alison and it would ACTUALLY be shocking and relatable, plus the two were friends before liars are. The actress who plays Imogen sounds so cynical all the time and her character is always so ahead of the curve and running the other girls that I SWEAR there was no way she could be a victim. I even thought she was faking her pregnancy because she doesn't even MOVE like a pregnant woman, the girl runs around like she doesn't even have a baby in her belly, like wtf
I couldn’t even make it through the first episode, so I appreciate this recap and you being honest about your thoughts/opinions. I think, as you pointed out, that the creators could’ve taken more of a cue from the fans (concerning what they liked and didn’t like from the original).
Honestly finding out who A was, I wish it was kind of like Monas. Somebody that we already know, sometimes is good to know who it is and give it subtle hints but generally the fact that we didn’t even know who the guy was… Felt unfair or that’s why the reveal felt underwhelming
Girl I have not even watched yet but let me tell you how excited I have been to hear your opinion on the show. I can’t wait to sit down and eat my lunch and Watch this video. I re-watched all of your other PLL videos and I rewatched the original series again lol.
I also feel that the last three episodes were good but I definitely had a hard time getting into the show for the few beginning episodes. It was way scarier than I expected as well lol.
I have mixed feelings about Original Sin. I like Original Sin because there was a cohesive story. Although, that story definitely revolved around the mothers more than the girls. A's motive was definitely a stretch, although much better than any of the original PLL A reveals other than Mona. I hope if the show does get picked up for another season, they'll flesh out the characters more, because there's not much more to their characters than the one sentence description of who they are. Karen and Kelly are the dumbest names for those characters. No one under the age of 50 is named Kelly and no one under the age of 60 is named Karen. Nothing will compare to the first two seasons of the original Pretty Little Liars. But after season 3a, the writers literally lost the plot. The references to the Original PLL were very heavy-handed. As far as Aria and Ezra adopting Imogen's baby, I'm going to choose to believe that nothing that happened after PLL season 3a was cannon, and Aria and Ezra broke up and then got back together after Aria graduated from university, had some life experience, and then made the decision as an adult woman to pursue a relationship with Ezra.
The principal was not intimidating at all, it just made me cringe a little because he was trying so hard to seem all tough and scary but he just wasn’t . I feel like if they just shoved him down to the ground he would have broken his hip cause he was so old.
The swearing is realistic in my opinion. I also liked that the writers weren't afraid to take away a "nice" character like chip. With the original PLL, it felt like the stakes were non existent because a main character never died
I completely understand where you’re coming from. I honestly hate how Imogen’s baby is adopted by Aria and Ezra when that couple is so problematic! I also didn’t like Tabby specifically because of all the movie references and it was starting to get annoying. There is some cringey dialogue here and there but overall I do like the show. I’m worried what it’ll be like in season 2 and I hate how Riverdale is canon in this show, but we’ll see how that goes.
I agree with everything said. There were like 7 -A texts through the entire SEASON. And most of them were in the pilot. We need more -A texts and mind games in next season or people are gonna get bored and it’s gonna get cancelled after season 2.
I actually thought Original Sins was a really good watch. However, I think it would’ve been better as a stand-alone, and didn’t need to be apart of the Pretty Little Liars franchise. It just doesn’t have pll vibes!! Like the lighting was too dark and warm. Additionally, it doesn’t have the same core of the og pll. The point of the og is that the main girls had skeletons in their closets and lowkey deserved payback!!! The girls in OS were too good and hardly even lied lol
I honestly love the A reveal, because I knew that A would be someone related to Angela, what I didn't expect was that Angela was the principal's daughter which to me was a good plot twist because we did know the principal and didn't pay much attention to him. I enjoyed this new PLL very much.
This entire show was a mess! So insufferable. The only character I liked was Faran. This is the third failed spinoff of PLL. Is it that hard to recapture the magic of the original show???
Definitely not a fail spin-off, generally a lot of people like it and talk about how it’s better than put a original pretty little liars. I don’t think so there’s some moments where it was better, generally how the plot moved quicker. But the last three episodes it was getting good but I don’t know how to feel
It would have been awesome if the show was set in the 80's/90's and based in Rosewood and the main characters were somehow related to the original liars and were harrassed by a "first" A that somehow later was discovered and became sort of like a "legend" the whole town knew about so the A's we've seen in the original PLL were inspired by that one. I think that would've made way more sense.
interesting review! you do sound a bit picky about certain aspects of the show. i understand some of your critiques but things like "swearing too much" just feels like you're grasping at straws. but yeah maybe the show will improve in your eyes in later seasons. who knows. i personally loved it so much. it always kept me on the edge of my seat. :)
@@SerenaSkybourne i didn't think they were swearing excessively at all. probably a little less than how me and my friends swear on the daily, if anything
I agree with everything you said in this video. The OG pll is one of my favourite shows ever and I’m disappointed in this one especially because I love Bailee Madison so much too so I was hoping this was going to be good. Also what you said about the dialogue was SO right, it was cringey especially compared to the original show
Yes! The main issue I had with this show was the revealed A way too soon. From the first episode we know it’s not one of the girls and with the original even after Mona was outed as A we still thought one of the girls could be A. My other issue is the visuals. It feels too much like riverdale with just a pll plot (I had no idea the visuals guys from riverdale was on this show) I wanted pll pt 2 and this show didn’t live up to it. Then there’s the lack of real friendship. PLL always had that friendship arch going on, will they chose themselves over the group and A always used that against them.
I was also very underwhelmed by the reboot, though there were some parts I liked, like the mystery surrounding the mothers and Angela waters, most of it really bothered me, like the dialogue acting, and overall A reveal. It just felt like the build-up of A through the entire season was almost rushed through in the final episode, and it ended up feeling very surface-level and unsatisfying to me. I wish they had gone into Archie's backstory a little more, rather than him being this spooky killing machine. I appreciated their trying to discuss all the issues they did, like racism, sexism, and SA, but because they were trying to address everything I felt like they weren't handled all that well. Overall I didn't hate the show but I definitely didn't love it. One show I did like, for the most part, was "I Know What You Did Last Summer" on Amazon Prime. It has a very similar feel and plot to PLL, but I thought the mystery and reveal of the anonymous person was a little better.
Oh my gosh, you said this SO WELL. I agree with everything you said. Now I am still intrigued enough to watch it, but it's definitely not very good so far 😬 maybe a second season could make things better 🤷🏻♀️
The moment they mentioned Ezra and Aria I cringed. Like, y'all just wrapped up a r*pe plotline and precede to unravel that by bringing a predatory relationship into the mix? I know Lucy Hale said she's available but that's not how to hint at making that happen.
I'm glad the obnoxious #MeToo movement has failed to cancel the Ezra-Aria romance. The two actors had great chemistry together and Aria was 16 and Ezra only 22 when they met.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 what? I know you ain't on Wishbone's Internet supporting Ezria! Please seek proper help.
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From first very episode, I disliked it. I was so excited for it, I love slashers and couldn’t wait to see how it all unfolded, but it was just so bad. The acting was really bad, the writing was even worse and there were some major plot holes (hope it all gets solved in season 2). I’m really disappointed, especially since I really like Bailee Madison in other things.
Mathilda, great to see you here 😍 💖 I agree with all your points. I love slashers too so I was excited that they tried to make this show seem like one, but the end result was way less exciting and scary than I hoped it would be.
When the principal said he was Angela’s father I was so confused, to me the actor looks like he’s the same age as sherif Beasley like the dude should be a grandpa
The blood collection scheme killed me. Oooo we have a match only 66 people to now go through. Truly a breakthrough. Their mindset the entire time while figuring out the clues was wild.
Honestly I think that the reason most ppl enjoyed it is becuz it has everything that this generation is obsessed with in current teen dramas: a pretty cast, moody atmosphere and very brutal murders is all u need to get ppl to tune in. If u look at al the other popular teen dramas atm theyre all pretty much the same(Euphoria, Elite, 13RW and Winx)
people are attracted to Original Sin because we're in another golden era of slasher movies. halloween, scream, texax chainsaw massacre are all getting a soft-reboot & people love that.
Thank god you posted this! Like you I feel it was just average. Original Sin definitely fixed some issues like not romanticing any creepy behaviour, making A more scary, revealing everything by the finale, diversity, and I liked the parents being involved in the plot the way they were. However, I think the main issues for me were the girl's friendship, boyfriends, and the reveal. What made PLL the way it was is the main girls and their secrets together as a group as well as the things they hid from each other. But they always felt like they had a strong friendship the whole time. I never felt with O.S. that they were real friends. I think they could have either had them loosely as friends from the start or they needed more episodes to develop a stronger bond. Same goes for the relationships, like you I didn't care about any of the boyfriends/love interests and was just bored. I never felt connected to it because it needed more time to develop. As for the reveal, yes it's good that it wasn't obvious but I was disappointed because it wasn't someone connected enough to the plot for me. The Principal was too much of a basic forgettable character and A himself being an unknown face is worse. I want the reveals to be deeper and more hard hitting.
Love how your mood changes when you show your (gorgeous) outfit before proceeding to bash the outfits🤣
What can I say 😂 I wish I could have been a fashion designer on the show lmao
@@SerenaSkybourne that'd be a dream I'm sure!
@@SerenaSkybourne we all would profit from that ❤️
For me, what Mouse was doing with Steve was creepier and scarier than the finale of that show.
One aspect that this show had over the original was that the narrative didn't frame Adult/Teenager relationships as romantic. Tabby is rightfully creeped out by Wes' uncomfortable advances on her.
yes I appreciated that a lot
The show had that going for them until they gave Imogen’s baby to Ezria, a ship where grooming occurred.
I mean, yes and no. Wes tried to kiss her, manipulated her to make her stay in his house and made a whole date for her. He's a pedophile. Even so, he has no consequences for it. Tabby is still his friend, she trusts him to to take her home late in the night, when her mom accused him about being nasty and all that she was treated like she was wrong and crazy and even when he said to her mom he tried something with her he had no legal consequences and it's just there with his live. Also the fact that Imogen gave her baby to such amazing parents that are Ezra and Aria even when he's a pedophile too.
At the start they did good, as you said they made it like something wrong and creepy, I thought they were talking the correct path but then all of this happened and tbh they just didn't do it right.
I agree. However, I felt it was kinda weird she was going to his house and everything especially with her being assaulted, but I guess because she knew him it wasn't super uncomfortable
@@rivyr7029 they wanted to bring original characters and ezria, even disturbing, were the most loved couple by the community
they also probably were the only ones to accept
I’m sorry but I HATED the way tabitha’s character was written, like we get it!! she likes movies!! you don’t need to shoehorn in a movie reference every 5 seconds that honestly just reminds me of a better thing I could be watching
totally, her entire personality doesn't need to be that she likes movies! She is a well-rounded character with lots of different interests I'm sure, not just movies.
Hahahaha I agree, I was so annoyed while watching
Bruh they didnt even try to make her likeable
@@quizbangandedits1134 I swear, out of all the girl she was the only one I didn't like. I was very angry when she complain against chip finishing the video (she literally walked out being 'unprofessional'). I felt like she didn't let the guy do anything unless it was her idea/her doing it. This doesn't mean I support chip oc, but it seemed like narcissist behaviour to me
@@narunatsu1 SAME. I dont like chip, but there were times where i felt like she was a bit self-centered and rude with him. I guess he let it happen bc he SA her.
The scene where she argued with tyler at the party was so CRINGE, and her filming the boys in the locker room was beyond weird.
The only things I didn’t like about the reboot was Mouse’s storyline, the A reveal and who it was, and the lil Ezria sneak at the end because it defeated the entire purpose of them calling out predatory relationships in other plot lines but then describing them as a ‘perfect couple’. Other then that, I loved the series. The cast was incredible, the episodes had me hooked, and it was promising for a first season. I look forward to where the story goes in the second season
I LOVE this one compared to the other but the Ezria comment made me want to vomit.
My thoughts exactly! The A reveal was a bit underwhelming to be honest, but it doesn't erase how enjoyable the rest of the show was. But describing Aria and Ezra as the perfect couple after making such a good plot about grooming being bad... it's like they didn't learn their lesson. Ik in the original it was Aria who found out she couldn't have kids but they could have still chosen literally any other one of the girls to opt for an adoption
@@biihisme like emily. she's gay, she isn't getting a baby unless she enters a relationship with someone non-cis
but i do believe the other liars just didn't want to get there and lucy have plus the guy did
I think them calling them the perfect couple was on purpose. the girls don’t truly know who they were but who they are in the present just like the moms storyline. Also plays into the idea that you truly never what happens behind closed doors you only know what people want you to know about them.
@@brandonpadilla5402 yeah but at the same time, for the audience that does know what happened and have now reflected on the impact that that relationship had years after the show finished, it was just a terrible choice. Like out of everyone in the OG show they update us on Ezria and tell us that not only are they happily adopting Imogen’s baby but also fulfilling their dreams and the predator has a book store? Yeah that wasn’t it. A recall to the OG in a pretty terrible way and their response to fans criticism is that they still stand by Ezria
I audibly groaned when they said Aria and Ezra were adopting the baby. Because we really need to be putting another child into that groomer’s life. I mean Ezra was in a relationship with not one but two high school students! One of which he actively sought out and stalked. I knew they were going to say Aria and Ezra but I really hoped for a moment that they’d say Hanna and Caleb. What was the point of the Wes subplot if they were going to continue romanticizing Ezra’s creepy ass!
I get where you’re coming from, but I think you’re reading way too much into it. The fact is that although this show is in the same universe as the original, it’s a completely different story with completely different characters. I think the writers just wanted to feed the fans of the original show by giving some of the OG characters attention/a small place in the story, and Aria and Ezra are really the only couple that it makes sense for the writers to have adopt Imogen’s baby. Spencer and Toby were never confirmed endgame by the end of pll, Emily and Allison split according to pll: the perfectionists, andd Hanna and Caleb we’re already pregnant when the original pll ended. We know that Aria can’t have children of her own, and Ezria said they wanted children, so they were the best choice. No, I don’t condone and never will condone the way that Ezria got together and how a lot of their relationship was, but this was just a fun thing from the writers to bring in some OG characters.
And they always gloss over how young Alison was.
When Ezra & Aria meet, she's 16. Alison was missing a year...and they said at one point it was 'almost' a year before that that Eza & Alison knew each other. So....she was maybe 14? or barely 15??
So gross.
And It did feel like they were trying to bait viewers like, if they mention Aria & Ezra maybe they will somehow convince them to join the cast or something.
It negates everything the show is about too!! The message of os is seemingly about sexual assault awareness and prevention but Ezra? A predator gets a baby? Im confused.
I was watching with a friend and the moment she said that she found rhe oerfect couple I legit say “they better fucking not” and my friend is like “oh no” and we legit paused it at their name to sit there and process the anger for like 20 seconds
@@sheeps_ Right? It’s a total slap in the face.
The ending was so lack luster. I literally felt NOTHING when the principal walked out. I enjoyed some aspects of the show but none of the stakes felt high enough for me. By the end everyone is all kumbaya by the fucking chrsitmas tree, literally.... and none of the girls have any dirt on them to go on for a second season.
right like literally everything was dealt with by the end of season 1.
@@kawaiidemonprincess right. Like don't get me wrong I love the main cast of girls. They're amazing. But the moms have the back story I want to watch🤷♀️ I think Mouse had the most compelling story to tell or get into, but they dont really have time to explore sidestories with their 10 episode limit🥲
The only thing I could say as I watched that part was "this is stupid"
well it wasnt built up over years. so not as much character development for us to really feel anything. still more screentime than the "twincer A" reveal tho lmao xD
I feel like the A in the original show was more interesting because they felt human. The new “a” in original sin doesn’t feel like a human, but just an evil serial killer that kills for the hell of it without motive or reason
Yeah which is weird. Cause who did the texting? The principal? That’s weird. The theory of having a Young A and Older A working together would’ve been cool
Yeah, the killers were so random and the son was just a monster straight out of a horror flick.
A in the original series felt unrealistic imo, they had too much time & money to be building things (dollhouse) & being everywhere but nowhere at the same time. All that money & time to commit to harassing the girls but they were supposed to be a teenager, too. It was almost supernatural. To me, that wasn't human, they felt like a ghost.
@@arisboba Agreed! The tech-ish,sci-fi-ish prison was super unrealistic lol.
A in this show was so boring. He didn't hurt the girl like the original did. This show looked like a riverdale but less crazy
Literally every outfit Imogen wore looked like it was taken from a 1970 set of Little House on the Prairie. WHY DID THEY DO HER LIKE THAT?? SHE WAS PREGNANT NOT BLIND!
I like her outfits lol
None of the outfits were good
Archie seems more like a plot device rather than a person seeking revenge
Also the fact that he is named Archie and the reboot plays in the same universe as Riverdale (who also have an Archie)... it's a bit unsettling and seems like preparation for a crossover or something...
(For Roberto Archie is basically a self insert or original character)
I see him as a weapon that does everything that man says. Not sure he actually understands half of things that happen around him.
I am pretty sure that A is going to be Wes!
@@527398 I totally agree because they elude to that when they show the cage in the Waters house
Yeah, a random sibling that was kept hidden because he was born disfigured like something out of 'House of Wax' or 'Phantom of the Opera.'
These are two very different shows. The reboot definitely has it's own appeal. I really liked how things wrapped up while still leaving room for more mystery. The acting from the main girls is lackluster but the involvement of parents is way more interesting than the original. I didn't even notice the swearing. I like the comedic horror villain scenes. Very entertaining. The girls dress and act more like teenagers in this one.
I totally agree! the dialogue that is kinda cringe or makes them seem dumb is much more on par with how 15-17 year olds act. Also, I think the wardrobe was true to how teenage girls would try to dress themselves to stay on trend if that makes sense
That last sentence is very true. When I watched the original show I couldn't help thinking how unrealistic it was, "girls my age don't dress this mature" & "where the fuck is A getting all this money & time from to harass them & build a whole ass dollhouse?" A lot of didn't make sense
I think the thing that's missing is the humor. I think the original show's charm was its really funny one liners which we don't see here. And when they try to attempt humor it often ends up being cringy.
i DEFINITELY don’t think the Kelly/Karen thing is over - I would loveeeee for there to be a S3ish twist that it was Karen all along
Yessss I’d love that!!
I’m so glad this video and opinion exists, cause I truly thought I was the only one who thought these things. When I finished the finale I honestly thought “okay this good…it was okay. It added absolutely nothing to tv, did nothing new. but it was..good”
I love the diverse cast and I appreciated it.
yes i appreciated the diverse cast too, a good step up from the original
not every show needs to be revolutionary and add a new spin on everything gosh 😭
i can see some of the writing being cringy but i preferred the swearing lol (maybe bc i’m 20 and this is how ppl actually talked in highschool) Overall i really feel like they did a better job with the mystery aspect and i liked that there was more murder. i agree that the A reveal was a bit anticlimactic but overall i really enjoyed this show even if it’s mediocre. also they handled SA so much better in this show which i appreciated.
I'm 20 also, and the dialogue did seem somewhat accurate to how teens talk, especially with the over use of buzz words, because of Tik Tok, so many people over use gaslight, misogyny, stereotypes, sociopath, words like that, because teens want to sound smart and when they find out about words like that, they use them, even if it comes off a little cringe. And I think the cussing was also accurate because they're suppose to be like 15/16 and when you're that age, you still think cussing makes you sound cool and older so you do it as much as you can, until its not exciting to u anymore yanno?
I tend to prefer realistic dialogue as it helps with immersion, but when it is genuinely annoying to listen to a lot of scenes, I have to say I'd gladly sacrifice it for perfect dialogue or at least a middle ground.
I much preferred the cussing because it seemed like a realistic aspect of the dialogue. The lack of it annoys me in the other
I agree about the dialogue. I'm young too and I never felt like it was over the top, not the swearing or the buzz words. It sounded pretty normal with how other kids around my age talk and tbh I thought it was kinda impressive (usually teen shows mess up teenagers' dialogue so badly, it sounds very "how do you do fellow kids" and is super cringy; here it was actually very natural)
I had been wondering this. To me the dialogue seems cringy and forced but I wasn’t sure if it’s just bc I’m not a spring chicken anymore 😭
One huge issue I had with Original Sin was the lack of emphasis placed on grief and trauma. Imogen has JUST lost her mother, essentially her only parent and family, to a harrowing suicide/murder, yet barely a month later she is behaving relatively normally. After everything Tabby and Imogen have gone through with being r*ped, there's zero emphasis placed on grief and trauma and processing this. Pretty Little Liars did a good job showing grief, from the liars processing Alison's "death", to the absolutely heartbreaking performance of Emily when they find Maya's body. The girls also go to therapy relatively regularly (given the timeframe back then), to see Dr. Sullivan to resolve some of what they are going through. I think the fact that all of the girls in Original Sin are acting relatively normally without processing pain and trauma is creating a huge disconnect from reality. As you said, seeing Imogen with the Ouija board cursing out her mom for dying seems...almost rude. It's just not a natural reaction. Pretty Little Liars had wayyyy more episodes per season, which is why they were probably able to spend more time building real personalities for each girl, and giving us time to see each friendship and each relationship separately, giving us screen time to see the girls grieve, cope, and deal with their own problems. It humanized them, whereas all of the characters except maybe Tabby felt two-dimensional in Original Sin, like their only purpose was to drive the plot ahead.
Also I found it strange how A spared the girls to go after chip at the movie theatre so we think he has a conscious and then so easily want to kill Imogen at the end.
My theory is that A wanted the girls to all be alive until the trial in the end.
He attacked only "bullies". That deranged man told him that Imogen was "a bully". Apparently, he's not mentally well and is easily manipulated; I'd say even "programmed".
@@theclairewhy I think so as well, but like why would he show up to the cinema to them in the 1st place? And run after Noa in her apartment?
It doesn’t really make sense somehow.. I hope we’ll get more answers which make some of the things more sense in s2
Maybe he's a reverse A, he did say he punished the *guilty*
Hi Serena! I actually surprisingly ended up liking PLL: Original Sin and I think the show is much better than Riverdale. I actually liked the new liars characters and their actresses and the concept/storyline of the show. I will say, I do miss the campiness factor that was more prevalent in the original Pretty Little Liars. Also, I was glad to see more representation of characters of color and LGBTQ characters compared to the original Pretty Little Liars. I do agree that the show is trying to redeem different storylines/themes that the original fail to depicted sensitively, so I really appreciate it. But the ending was a little bit underwhelming for me but overall I kind of liked it. Who knew. But I can understand why there some people who don’t. I wonder if the show will decide to continue with a season 2. Thank you for sharing!
Anything is better than Riverdale
@@Shey-z9b Yes. For real. Have you seen the recent season 6 of Riverdale? I like campiness in media but what on earth is happening there? Apparently there’s a parallel universe where all of the main characters have magical powers and now there’s a crossover with chilling adventure of Sabrina. At least this show has a kind of coherent plot.
@@wonderlucky1912 I just finished watching the season 6 finale, it's crazier than season 3. It's a marvel knock-off with witches.
Edit: I was not expecting to get so many likes on my comment. Thank you so much. I do agree there were a couple plot holes in the story that I wish they could have expanded upon or there were a couple of missed opportunities. But I will say there were a lot of plot holes and flaws in the original PLL too. Thinking about it now there were a couple characters that I felt were kind of underutilized. So I wonder if the show does decide to continue with a season 2, how would that go from there.
I loved this show so much.
I really CANNOT believe that after the infamy that was the OG PLL A.D reveal of “secret twin no one knew about” the reboot decided to end its FIRST season, the season that sets its legacy with….. a “secret twin no one knew about” A reveal.
Like I don’t believe it’s possible the writers were that dense. Why would you have your first “A” reveal be the VERY thing that destroyed the original show’s legacy. Did they not watch the original?!?!?!
Ironically after this rant I’ve been on, all I can say is… I have no words.
Honestly I thought the first couple episodes had a good set up, but it didn't really have a good pay off. The final reveal was lackluster, like, the principal being Angela's dad felt like a copout. Also, I noticed Noa and Mouse never really contributed to the main plot which annoyed me, especially considering they're main characters. I kinda wish Kelly would've been a main character instead but that's just me.
also, faran only contributed to the main plot because she attracted kelly to the group
i was kinda pissed that some characters had more attention than others, even tho they r all set as main characters…?
THIS! 100% agreed. The whole show felt like the Tabby and Imogen show featuring Faran. Mouse and Noa didn’t contribute to the main plot and their own storylines weren’t very interesting imo. I really thought Mouse or Noa was gonna die at the end considering their lack of character.
@@CryKaze yeah! this tends to be a massive trend in tv shows, as the writers can’t seem to find a way to make sure everyone’s storyline is equally important and interesting or somehow correlate to the main plot… i really wanted more from noa tbh and for her boring ass bf to d*e or something to add spice! both mouse and noa had interesting storyline’s that had potential- but i just think how they were written separate to the main plot- really really confused me! 🫤
Also why would he even care about Angela? He made very clear in his narration he was out of her and her mother’s lives and had no attachment to them. So why does he give a shit now?
To my surprise, I actually did really like the show, however nowhere near as much as the original one! The original PLL will always have my heart with its ridiculous plot lines but also the nostalgia for it. Also, I personally just prefer something that’s not as scary!
Can’t wait to hear your review, love your videos! :)
There was no reason for this to be called Pretty Little Liars…
It’s a good show, the writing and story was good, but it’s NOT pretty little liars. It’s a good slasher/horror teenage angst show and that’s just it.
The show has PLL in the name but what’s the point in naming the girls liars if those lies aren’t really being used against them by A?
Can we talk about how Tabitha had a camera in the boys locker room, isn’t that illegal?
All of the things you mentioned are just typical mistakes Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa makes from one show to another (Riverdale, Sabrina, Supergirl). It's just literally like he has this type of list and follows it:
* cringy dialogues in a "teen" style (even though NO ONE talks like that) - done,
* the caricatured portrayal of any socially relevant topics (feminism, racism, all sorts of abusive behavior) - done
etc.
Just my humble opinion : stop assigning Roberto as a show-runner to potentially cool projects, he ruins them (sooner or later). If the first seasons of his projects can still be called more or less successful, it's going to get worse after that. Look at the Riverdale and Sabrina. There' s a fiasco waiting for us.
Ugh it SUCKS to see because I wanna see these issues talked more about in shows, tv, and media but everyone who does it does it in SUCH an annoying and (like you said) caricatured way that makes me HATE IT. Like I'm a black woman, I love seeing other black women in these shows but the way Tabbi and Faran talked were just so unrealistic and cringey. It made me hate Tabby, and I was okay with Faran because she did it significantly less but it was still...weird whenever they randomly jumped into SJW mode. Especially because (at least with Faran) the topic would be set up, she'd make a comment, and then that was it (i.e. when she changed her hair, her dad getting arrested, etc.)
Roberto’s shows are so infuriating to me because the ideas are there but he can never back them up with execution.
Yup! The original PLL was better at executing LGBTQ storylines with Emily, Maya, Paige, & Alison, & with Charlotte/CeCe as a transwoman. It was done more realistically and not cringe the way the new iteration PLL is
He is an awful showrunner, i had left Riverdale after episode 5 lmao
Yep, the lesbian rep was better in the OG PLL, bc in this reboot they didnt even bother to make one of the lead girls a lesbian.
I totally agree with you that you could tell the show was written by much older adults. My teenage son and I watched the whole season together and he said multiple times "teenagers don't talk like that" or 'no one acts like that" or "Mom, no one my age dresses like that" etc. The Christmas scene had him literally laughing hysterically. He said "Mom, that wouldn't happen, that just wouldn't happen" lol
For sure, I’m 19 and me and my friends don’t talk like that 😂😭
Also in the original, Toby was SAed by Jenna and it was never talked about. Like really talked about. Like he was terrified by Jenna at some point. Like he was scared for anyone to be on their porch if Jenna was home. And she even slapped him. She made him do those things with him and it was just left like that and they were even cool by the end of the show. Jenna actually had his number and could call him. That's so unrealistic. I'm not saying it's impossible but it's just gross that they kept them in contact. Like no one is going to keep in contact with someone who raped them if they had a choice. I do not like how the original pll handled sexual assault at all. Same with Emily, Hanna, and even Hanna's mom (officer Wilden) I do agree that the outfits were a bit off at some point. Also, why were none of them telling Imogen to sit the hell down and take her prenatal vitamins? Like why was she rippin and runnin around as pregnant as she was? If I was her friend I would leave her out of the mystery hunting. I also hate how when they went on missions they never brought weapons except for that one time. That also bothered me in the original.
The "let's kill Karen" thing could've been saved if at the start of episode 2 Imogen would've said "...'s reputation." and then the other girls would've been like "Holy shit why did you say it like that?? I was scared for a sec."
I love how passionate you are. You put so much effort into your videos and they are genuinely entertaining
Thankyou 🥰
Just binged the season, I’m not crazy about it. I feel like I have more questions then answers. The whole mouse drama really confused me. The fact that her mother is keeping her locked in this bubble. Especially knowing the truth about what actually happened to mouse. It was so stupid. I thought the back story would be way better. They could have made the back story a really insane spider web. The amount of profanity in this show was absolutely ridiculous. There isn’t one character that I like more then the other. I thought the fight at the party was so stupid. Tyler getting attacked in the bathroom was laughable. I don’t feel like them all hating Karen is enough reason to become friends. I feel like none of the cast has chemistry. They feel like a bunch of puzzle pieces jammed together. Before the end of season one, of PLL, I felt like i knew the characters so well. I felt a connection to every character. With this new show I feel nothing. If one of the main characters died off, I would be fine.
P.S
I think what Wes did was absolutely disgusting. Plotting to get tabby to come over to his house for her flash drive. Then he is making her dinner like they’re on a date. She never agreed to that. She is in high school and he looks 40. Wes creeps me out.
can we be that mad at the dialogue when mona sent “call off your techno boy toy or i’ll tell the cops what your mom keeps the lasagna box”
Yeah that was dumb haha, but that was an A text. The girls day to day conversations in the original made more sense
The reboot is missing fun and campyness. Remember when "A" put the letter A in Emily's cereal or when there was bees in Aria's mom's car and she didn't have the brains to get out of the car.
Or when they wrote ‘Merry Christmas Bitches -A’ with Christmas lights 😂😂😂
Let's not forget when A payed girls to play with Dolls the resembled each girl in the first episode of season 4. A was always spontaneous and dramatic 😩😭
The text were so DRY. The girls didn't even get terrified by them at one point. Just like "Ugh A again 🙄." The original A texts were so catchy and memorable. Don't ask me what a single text said in the reboot! The text Mouse sent to her OWN MOM was more threatening than the texts they received from A smh
When A sent a picture to Emily of her mom locked behind jail bars
I just felt like we needed more episodes like the 20-23 episodes. I understand the filler episodes were annoying but I think it added to its charm. Though I heard that a lot of actors were overworked doing that per season and we don’t want that. Overall I agree with what you said but I enjoyed the first season just not the finale.
The original show was everything! I loved how shocked the ladies were when the got a text 😂 plus the fashion was and the pretty factor was big reason I enjoyed the original. Alison can’t be touched. Edit: thank god you mentioned the fashion I thought I was the only one who cared. Exactly the show is supposed to be pretty with a soap opera type filter.
I knew it was the principal from when Imogen said “ who else can we think of that’s A someone from our moms time” then comes principal clanton speaking on the speaker. On top of that I wish the girls had more secrets for A to try and exploit and blackmail them with, for example A could’ve blackmailed noa by threading to get her mom sent to jail for lying about the drugs etc
I honestly think that the focus being more on “why is A doing this” rather than “who is A” makes it work. Because the identity reveal was kinda bad like is that mask a mask or is that his face 😂
the fact that the major villains of the series where the PRINCIPAL and an unmasked rando is a CRIME
*masked
@@velvetdawson617 don't forget the sheriff
The most surprising thing to me is Tabby making horror movie references through out the whole show but no comment when they were yeeted into a Saw movie
I’m so glad you covered this 😍 i’m not surprised-i didn’t watch it but falling short was inevitable, to me. Thanks for the video!!
I completely agree with you. The OG show had its issues but you can’t say it wasn’t entertaining. This reboot was trying too hard to be something different that it ended up being way too different. The finale (specifically the last half) felt WAY too cartoonish especially finding out who A is. I actually found myself laughing and not in a good way. They had no secrets for A to expose, and the “A” texts weren’t even signed by A except like the first one. I think they just tried too hard and the mystery aspect suffered.
Not me ready for a 2 hour deep dive of more of your opinions on PLL OS lol. Great video Serena, positive thoughts and things you feel could have been done better love it!
I enjoyed the show until the a reveal honestly If they plan to do multiple a’s I don’t think this one should have been revealed till season two or three and if this is the only a then definitely shouldn’t have been revealed till the last season
Imo PLL reboot should be an anthology series each season a different set of liars and a different A
@@uravirginwhocantdrive1400 that’s a great idea and would prevent the mystery being dragged on
I definitely agree that they tried to cover too many topics in such s short season, and Tabby's character really suffered for it. I may have really liked her, but she was the only one who's story line MAINLY covered SA AND misogyny AND made so many obnoxious horror movie references and spelled everything out like we can make inferences, as viewers, based on her reactions to things. I like that she always spoke up for herself and said what she was feeling, especially to the awful men around her, but it felt like a lot was dumped on her character to tackle as many hot-topic issues as possible which was way too much. Mouse's story could have been so scary and intense, but it felt like Steve was about to literally do something awful, like he was an actual predator, but then her moms show up and they all hug and they take her home. Like? Send that man to prison? also, there was never a time that I suspected him as being A or leather face which was a big missed opportunity. On the flipside of that, I never felt since the moment I saw leather face that he intended to hurt the girls at all. I knew they were never in any actual danger. It really took away from the suspense. Mainly, the show doesn't focus on the "Liars" at all. The "Liars" in this show are the mothers. The daughters are all basically innocent, which is why I couldn't get invested in them. Our original liars were victims as well, but also had their own secrets of things they did that were wrong. We have Mouse's weird thing with all those parents and Tabby filming the boy's locker room, but neither of those are ever really confronted. We never learn WHY Tabby was filming those guys. Was she trying to find her attacker? Was she hoping to hear them talk about something? Did she want to make them feel violated in her own way to cope? Like what WAS that? and A being the principal was so cheap, we hardly ever see him in the show and Archie was a throw away and deserved more story line! the girls could have learned about who he was and then thought hey, maybe Archie is A or something. We also never got an Archie face reveal, which was super disappointing.
I wanted to like Tabby so bad but? While I can see several motives for her to do what she did with the filming, I can’t really forgive her for filming that. It’s predatory, not all those boys are guilty of sexual crimes. And obviously they didn’t and couldn’t consent to that. It’s not okay to assault innocent people because you were harmed. I’m human, I could see the impulse I guess? To cope in a weird way or find her attacker- try to jog your memory- but?
None of those boys ended up being guilty as far as she knew of anything.
The whole scene with her and Greg filming and he’s naked? I was so? Confused I guess. She’s right to be upset, but if seeing him naked without her permission is assault than why is it okay for her to have a video of him naked in literally the same shower on her laptop- that he didn’t agree to filming. Like babes he’s your victim just like you’re his now. And with Greg, while he doesn’t know it, SHE ASSAULTED HIM FIRST. It’s? It’s a tricky situation that goes so unaddressed as a viewer I can only be like, okay that’s criminal behavior. AS outlined by Tabby’s ethics herself! in the show. I would maybe find this interesting if she was framed as being? Idk less moral in practice than speech or something. If they really utilized this flaw or revenge or something. Blackmailed her with her more sinister truth and if that effected her standing as well morally good and a safe person to be around, but also! That shit would have sent her TO PRISON and it’s not even a secret that’s used in the story really. I was confused by her storyline and characterization.
You do make some good points, I think the whole locker room thing was her trying to out who her attacker was due to her being at a party in the woods, which jocks were at, also because in said locker room, the jocks talk about girls they’ve been with, but I kind of agree with you, it does seem weirdly invasive & could have been played out better.
The last 3 episodes seemed rushed. I feel like upon the A reveal they were indecisive upon the story that they want to use so it seemed kinda…blah. My thing is not enough people pay attention to the theme song so the hints that were in the theme song essentially didn’t resonate with a large group of people.
I mean it’s the first season and there still a lot of things that need to be discussed the second season but I definitely feel like the ending wasn’t as great as it could’ve been. Honestly would prefer if they waited to do that it was real or if they have more episodes or just something so that it didn’t seem so rushed.
Personally I I think the whole principal being Angela Waters father was.. I don’t know a bit a bad writing?…Being that his character wasn’t presented that much or we didn’t have any hints to him being the perpetrator.
Yeah, I feel the season needed twelve rather than ten episodes myself.
The principal WAS a random choice as the villain.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 they could’ve least made him a pawn or implied it or something. It just doesn’t make sense bc if I was Archie, he’d be close to first on my get back list
one thing i feel like no one ever says, if for one time they use more of the material from the books. it’s almost as if they need to mix all three series’s they’ve done, like specific aspects from them all.
Completely agree. I see most people loving this show, but I feel it's soooo empty. The mistery is quite boring and the Liars aren't even related to it. AND the characters aren't well developed (both liars and secundary characters). I just didn't care about them or the mistery, it wasn't interesting. Just a random mix of slasher stuff mixed up, it doesn't have it's own identity like the original PLL had. Wasted potential 🤦🏻♂️
yeah its quite shallow, i agree. it had potential
Although PLLOS had a lot of cheesy scenes, I absolutely loved it. It reminds me more of the Scream TV series and not the original PLL. Obviously it won’t beat the original series, but this one had me on the edge of my seat for most of the episodes.
However, if PLLOS does gets renewed, I’m nervous that the director will intertwine riverdale & chilling adventures of sabrina with the show. If that happens, it will completely ruin the show.
the director said Riverdale will not be in original sin at all, he just wanted to put an Easter egg in an episode and didn't realize everyone would freak out about it and in a very negative way haha
I also thought of the Scream tv show! Scream Queens too, with the flashbacks and party backstory. I love horror and love all three - PLLOS was a treat.
Yess! Scream came to mind immediately and I thought of scream queens the whole time cuz of the 90’s flash backs
He better fucking not lol
@@arisboba he said he's not going to haha I think he knows everyone hates Riverdale but for some reason it keeps getting renewed so he's just like fuck it I'm doing whatever I want with this haha
I agree with you. People tend to overhype shows and are already saying it’s better because they did “so well” in the first season only to come back a season or two later to say it went downhill fast. Riverdale did this and PLLOS having the same writer makes me worry that this may follow the same path.
We definitely can't jump in too soon and say it's better when it hasn't had more seasons 😅😅
I prefer the og pretty little liars
@@Missmagazinebura Hmmmm...... They weren't so great. Young girls need to demand better quality shows
On the contrary? LOL Every single thing that's getting a reboot or renewed is getting beyond BASHED, even before it's come out, just because people tend to love the OG, so they don't even give it a chance. Glad this time is different, based on the huge positive reviews. Idk how, why and when it became trendy to dislike anything nowadays, but ppl are more likely to express negative opinions about anything, rather than say something they actually liked.
@@johnhowardz9524 I just simply don’t like that it’s using the PLL name when it doesn’t feel like PLL and seems more like other shows like Scream Queens. I think that’s where most of us seem disappointed in and some other things as well.
This has to be the first negative review that I've seen of this reboot thus far, since most other reviews sing its praises. I'm looking forward to seeing you unpack your thoughts, Serena! 🍿😁
i'm surprised more people don't dislike it tbh haha, the issues are pretty glaringly obvious to me
The only negative review I have seen so far personally
@@xxaleksi wow that's crazy! Well, I never was a person who pretended I liked something just because it's popular haha
i’ve seen plenty of negative reviews especially on youtube
@@SerenaSkybourne me neither like with heartstopper
I liked it but don't love it and was quite disappointed with it
I literally never comment, but I just finished the show and had the exact same thoughts as you! I went online to see if others agree and was shocked to see how much people loved it. I like how diverse the show is and I think that is it’s greatest strength… everything else is mid at best.
I agree, i can't believe how many positive reviews there are on this show... I was so bored in places, and it felt like a very low effort production
@@loveart429 If the majority of people like it, there's most likely a reason for it, lol
@@johnhowardz9524 Majority of ppl have very low standards imo and will eat up anything with a moody aesthetic and pretty teens.
I swear the people that like this show have no critical thinking or are preteens. It was SO BAD.
@@xxmakeuplover05xx And I swear you can’t prove anything, because we are talking about opinions here, not argumentative facts jfc🤦🏼♂️. If you don’t like it, fine lmao, but don’t go at people who like it, saying they are preteens and so on, just cause they like the show. Not to mention the fact, in most cases, if the majority in society agrees on something, it’s more likely that it’s true. But since we are talking about something objective here, such as opinions, we can’t say that’s a fact. Also, nowadays people don’t settle for low effort productions and so on? Have you not seen how everything is bashed even before it gets out, just cause nowadays it’s a lot easier to hate on something, or say something negative, rather than point out something you liked? So chill the fuck out, lmao
Letting aria & Ezra adopt the baby is like rewarding him for being a creep
I think they mentioned Ezria because Bailee Madison is friends with Lucy Hale and Lucy has worked with Roberto before on Katy Keene, so there’s more chance for Lucy to cameo next season. I do like the show, but I don’t think it’s better than the original.
I think PLL OS was pitched as something else, and adapted as PLL reboot. If you remove any of the "A" stuff (a few texts, spray painted, circled A's on posters etc) from this series, it changes absolutely nothing about it. Actually, I'd argue that the removal of the "A" stuff would make the show way more cohesive. Perhaps pitched as slasher/mystery but maybe deemed not a strong enough premise on its own (think Amazon's recent IKWYDLS flop).
You’re so right about the girls outfits though. They are so hard to look at, especially with the girl second to the right with the blue scarf. Like just… why ;;
And budget isn’t an excuse, I’ve gone to thrift stores and shit and was able to come up with far better outfits than that. (Thrift stores don’t have ugly clothing, my point is that the clothes are cheap.)
That being said, the girl second to the left has a pretty alright outfit. Like it isn’t fantastic but it’s cute and at least bearable to look at.
God, I love your videos! This was really great as always, and even funny in places, thank you! I'm a bit sick this week, so this was right on time, and helped :)
Aww I adore you Diana!
@@SerenaSkybourne 🌸🥰
Thanks for the review! You’re disappointed? I’m shocked! I love the new take and I’m glad it’s not fully tied to PLL. The other two spin-offs didn’t do well and had messy plots. I love PLL and the books. The books were always better than the show. I grew up in the time when the books came out and watched the show from the premiere date on ABC Family! PLL to me was meant to be a darker show.
I like that this reboot went for a scary horror angle and that’s super cool, but I thought it was a bit try hard 😂
@@SerenaSkybourne that’s fair! I appreciate hearing your side of things! It’s good to critique shows and hear things I didn’t consider 😃
honestly the only characters who reallyyy had charisma were Faran and sometimes Noa.
Shawn was hot but boring as fuck.
And I don’t understand how they were so close friends after like days ??!?
They probably made aria and Ezra adopt because they might appear or do a cameo. Lucy I believe is the only one kinda close to the show, so I think they might be setting up her appearance if she decides to
I'm really glad that you also felt the same as me on this show. I will say that the first couple episodes were really bad, the fake wokeness and blatant fake feminism was awful, but it did eventually start growing on me. but I was also very upset with the ending.
yeah the feminism did feel forced, i consider myself a feminist and at least for me, at points it felt a little try-hard even though they did their best with it
Sameee
i don't think this show, despite the name, can really be compared to PLL. especially with Roberto involved, it makes much more sense to compare it to Riverdale season one and other horror type thing. The whole aesthetic is giving very much archieverse, he even had to connect the sisters of quiet mercy, like sir, you can't connect the universes if lucy hale is in both lmao.
Like you said, there was a bunch of good, the whole assault storyline was very well handled, and I knew who it was from the psycho scene, I was like sir I stopped trusting you episodes ago. when they sent A after him , i was like get his ass! the chase scenes were all good, very slasher vibes. and i liked that it was a self contained mystery, especially since HBO max is cancelling everything right now, but it did feel like something was missing.
- like with Karen and kelly, i kept thinking there would be something there, but by the end of the season, i don't understand half of what kelly does. i wish they showed more of them before, in flashbacks or something, because it's never clear to me what the dynamic is. sometimes they say kelly and Karen are both equally evil, sometimes karen is the evil one and kelly is the more shy one. sometimes karen is the better dancer, sometimes kelly is. we didn't know enough about them for anything to matter or make sense.
- i still don,t get why there was a "football team uses drugs" plot in the back, like i get it was connected to noa, but it was dropped way too quickly like none of that is resolved. i wish they gave her a more substantial story.
- and faran, i feel like they kept doing random things with her, i liked the general theme of ballet and control and with her mom and stuff, but it's like every episode was a new random thing. there was a way to make it more coherent perhaps.
- and mouse, her story, which psychologically is arguably the most interesting, like the trauma and everything, it also felt like it was ended too abruptly with no real resolution.
- also, sometimes, the tabby references were so much, i was like damn is this what i sound like when i make references?
- also also, the fact that in one season, none of these girls are queer, like okay babes, sure, we'll see about that.
- it felt like they wanted to create an insta group of friend that love and support each other with no catty-ness, which i am okay with obviously, but like you said, except for tabby and imogen who we saw bond because they lived together and their shared trauma, the other girls never develop a genuine bond with each other, they're always doing their own thing, i don't think any of them know anything about mouse's stuff, or noa, she was always hanging with her boyfriend. i get they each have their own thing, which is cool, but i wanted a bit more connection maybe.
- i thought the mystery of what happened to angela was cool, but we needed to see more i feel. like why would angela keep hanging with those girls if they all treated her like shit? and at the party, they said she looked like a mess, like something happened to her, and that was never addressed. it made sense to me that there would be a mastermind and a mindless brute, very slasher of them, but there was no way of guessing it was the principal and i feel lik you want to be able to guess things. like archie was guessable cuz we saw a picture of him and angela as kids, so thinking she had a brother was possible. but her dad? completely not. we were missing information for the reveal to truly be impactful.
- also WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED? WHERE ARE THE BODIES???
OVERALL, i enjoyed the show, i liked watching every week, but it does feel like a lot of fluff and not enough neat. it's vibes and aesthetic over truly good writing that carry the show, and i wish the writing was a bit better.
But I also agree with your thoughts, too.
i agree with just about everything you’ve said. they became friends so fast it felt so rushed to me bc they go from not saying anything to each other to saying they’re bffs in the pilot episode felt so unearned. and then you go from from the stupid dialogue to imogen wanting to abort her baby at SIX MONTHS knowing she wouldn’t be able to like girl get it together. and then they’re all like we’re gonna kill karen and she dies and they’re all shocked when she ACTUALLY DIES was hilarious to me bc i’m like y’all just said you wanted that. and then tabby who had a movie reference every 5 seconds made me wanna claw my eyes out. the whole show trying to dive into SA and then have imogen give her baby to EZRIA OF ALL COUPLES ?!!! YOU HAD THREE COUPLES TO CHOOSE FROM (excluding emison) AND YOU CHOSE THEM?!! and then the A reveal (OF ALL NAMES THEY COULDA CHOSE) the build up was actually getting good towards the end but the mastermind behind it really made me disappointed bc it just wasn’t giving what it was supposed to give and when greg was shot i literally laughed out loud bc i didn’t even realize the principle was holding a gun. everything was so over the top but in the worst of ways. i doubt the writers planned on going past a first season bc there’s nothing to really build off of for future seasons.
Hanna was already pregnant by the end of the original, so that wouldn't make sense.
Spencer and Toby weren't thinking about kids at that time.
Emily and Alison already had kids.
So, Ezra and Aria make the most sense, since they said they were going to adopt. And not to mention that the Lucy Hale, who plays Aria, is friends with the actress who play Imogen irl and is also friends with the producer. And also the original actors couples would have to be willing to come back for a cameo and Lucy Hale wanted to, so it makes sense.
@@Makaylablanchard2023 yeah but morally they are the worst couple to give a baby to i’m sorry but it’s true
I was completely shocked as well after watching the show I went to the twitter hashtag and saw that everyone was praising it. Sure slasher horror is nice but I thought it made it even more cheesy than the original. I think the main thing is that its too close to river-dale from the small noir town, to the preppy clothes, stereotypical character tropes, all the way down to the original plot being about their parents like that weird dungeons and dragons game.
I actually agree with you. This show had ingredents to be great but ended up falling flat and also despite the problems with the original series I still love it.
if I'm completely honest, it feels like this is what the MTV Scream series should have been.
I expected them to show for archie to explain his sibling relationship with Angela so there can be some actual weight to what he was doing. I wouldn’t say there wasn’t any clues that Archie was one of the A’s because in the scene where he was in Imogene basement and opened his trunk there was a picture of a little boy and a little girl hinting that Angela had a sibling
Oh yes so there was a clue, good point. But I still felt like it was odd because we didn’t even know anyone called “Archie” so we were never rly given a chance to guess and get it right
@@SerenaSkybourne personally I did guess that off the picture and a lot of other people did too, as well as the fact that A was clearly older and related to Angela but I never would’ve guessed the principal, and even though we didn’t know Archie we knew there was an unidentified A. Waters out there so
Yes. It literally came out of nowhere. Like all of a sudden the girls are finding clues like crayons in a cage and a picture perfectly placed on the floor where it wasn't before when Imogen first visited. There was no relationship building at all. If Archie was staying with Rose Waters (Angela's mom) who was then subsequently taken to Radley after her daughter's death....HOW TF DIDN'T THE POLICE FIND ARCHIE IN THE CAGE? Are we just meant to assume Principal Clanton took him into his care after that? How would no one have noticed??
I personally liked the show. Loved the kind of creepy, horror vibes.
To me, it didn't feel like the girls became friends out of nowhere after detention. It felt more like they were bonding over their dislike for Karen but still were not too keen on going down for what happened after publishing the video of Karen cause the girls minus Imogen and Tabbi, wanted to put the blame just on these two.
I agree that the final episode was underwhelming. It's a bit like they are not sure whether it gets a second season or not so they tried to tie up as many loose ends as possible. The A reveal was something I didn't expect cause I didn't pay much attention to the principal and Archie.
Honestly, Aria and Ezra getting the baby was just for the fans of the original. I guess they gave the baby to Aria and Ezra cause they were the only couple in the original that wasn't able to get kids. Wasn't Hanna pregnant in the last episode? And Spencer never showed any sign that she wouldn't be able to get pregnant so they just thought that Aria and Ezra are the most obvious choice.
Something I hated so much was that they called their couples by shipping names. I heard that they did it in Riverdale and I thought it was cringy there. I just never heard someone talking about their relationship like that. Maybe teenagers these days are, I don't know, but it just feels weird to me.
Loved your video as always.
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I read an article that said in The Perfectionists it's revealed that Aria and Ezra adopt a girl, and because of the time jump the year they did that would've been 2022, so the writers thought it would be a perfect little tie in if the baby they adopted was Imogen's since it fit so perfectly
i agree with you overall. this show lacks the intrigue, the really interesting mystery, the iconic characters, etc.
I was trying to figure out why I didn't like it as much, but you summed it up with "over the top" and when you talked about their boyfriends. They are boring because they are soooo underdeveloped! It makes it feel more like I' watching a tv show, rather than watching these girls living their lives like I felt watching the original.
Farran was my least favorite at the beginning but likewise, she's my favorite now! After confronting the sheriff, standing up to her mom, and staying true to herself! She's so badass!
Yes I was so proud of her! She grew a lot
My favorite character was Mouse from beginning to end (just as Tabitha was my least favorite from beginning to end) but Faran was good too.
😍 Plus, I always thought Faran was the prettiest liar!
This is off topic but you should definitely make a video of orange is the new black since you might like it , and you look gorgeous 💕
Ty 😭❤️
About halfway through the show I was SURE that Imogen and Kelly (or Karen, whatever) would be the minds behind it all, because they both remind me of Alison and it would ACTUALLY be shocking and relatable, plus the two were friends before liars are. The actress who plays Imogen sounds so cynical all the time and her character is always so ahead of the curve and running the other girls that I SWEAR there was no way she could be a victim. I even thought she was faking her pregnancy because she doesn't even MOVE like a pregnant woman, the girl runs around like she doesn't even have a baby in her belly, like wtf
I couldn’t even make it through the first episode, so I appreciate this recap and you being honest about your thoughts/opinions. I think, as you pointed out, that the creators could’ve taken more of a cue from the fans (concerning what they liked and didn’t like from the original).
Honestly finding out who A was, I wish it was kind of like Monas. Somebody that we already know, sometimes is good to know who it is and give it subtle hints but generally the fact that we didn’t even know who the guy was… Felt unfair or that’s why the reveal felt underwhelming
Girl I have not even watched yet but let me tell you how excited I have been to hear your opinion on the show. I can’t wait to sit down and eat my lunch and Watch this video. I re-watched all of your other PLL videos and I rewatched the original series again lol.
You’re such a babe!
I also feel that the last three episodes were good but I definitely had a hard time getting into the show for the few beginning episodes. It was way scarier than I expected as well lol.
I have mixed feelings about Original Sin. I like Original Sin because there was a cohesive story. Although, that story definitely revolved around the mothers more than the girls. A's motive was definitely a stretch, although much better than any of the original PLL A reveals other than Mona.
I hope if the show does get picked up for another season, they'll flesh out the characters more, because there's not much more to their characters than the one sentence description of who they are. Karen and Kelly are the dumbest names for those characters. No one under the age of 50 is named Kelly and no one under the age of 60 is named Karen.
Nothing will compare to the first two seasons of the original Pretty Little Liars. But after season 3a, the writers literally lost the plot. The references to the Original PLL were very heavy-handed. As far as Aria and Ezra adopting Imogen's baby, I'm going to choose to believe that nothing that happened after PLL season 3a was cannon, and Aria and Ezra broke up and then got back together after Aria graduated from university, had some life experience, and then made the decision as an adult woman to pursue a relationship with Ezra.
I agree, and for me the motives are ranked like, mona, Archie/ The principal, Cece, and Alex.
Yes those first two seasons were awesome. I also ignore everything else afterwards
The principal was not intimidating at all, it just made me cringe a little because he was trying so hard to seem all tough and scary but he just wasn’t . I feel like if they just shoved him down to the ground he would have broken his hip cause he was so old.
The swearing is realistic in my opinion. I also liked that the writers weren't afraid to take away a "nice" character like chip. With the original PLL, it felt like the stakes were non existent because a main character never died
mona adopting the baby would be a gag for season 2
I completely understand where you’re coming from. I honestly hate how Imogen’s baby is adopted by Aria and Ezra when that couple is so problematic! I also didn’t like Tabby specifically because of all the movie references and it was starting to get annoying. There is some cringey dialogue here and there but overall I do like the show. I’m worried what it’ll be like in season 2 and I hate how Riverdale is canon in this show, but we’ll see how that goes.
will you explain to me how riverdale is tied to pll:os? i dropped that show a LONG time ago😅
The writer said it was just simply a reference now, and that Riverdale isn't really within the universe.
@@chokemewithmydiamonds9456 characters references Riverdale hospital in one of the episodes.
I only disliked Tabitha because she was just annoyingly and self-righteously woke.
I agree with everything said. There were like 7 -A texts through the entire SEASON. And most of them were in the pilot. We need more -A texts and mind games in next season or people are gonna get bored and it’s gonna get cancelled after season 2.
I actually thought Original Sins was a really good watch. However, I think it would’ve been better as a stand-alone, and didn’t need to be apart of the Pretty Little Liars franchise. It just doesn’t have pll vibes!! Like the lighting was too dark and warm. Additionally, it doesn’t have the same core of the og pll. The point of the og is that the main girls had skeletons in their closets and lowkey deserved payback!!! The girls in OS were too good and hardly even lied lol
I honestly love the A reveal, because I knew that A would be someone related to Angela, what I didn't expect was that Angela was the principal's daughter which to me was a good plot twist because we did know the principal and didn't pay much attention to him. I enjoyed this new PLL very much.
I'm so glad you liked it!
The principal part was the only disappointment of the whole season for me but I guess it wad also smart
I like a good surprise but there should have been more hints.
Otherwise, it was just random.
This entire show was a mess! So insufferable. The only character I liked was Faran. This is the third failed spinoff of PLL. Is it that hard to recapture the magic of the original show???
Apparently yes 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
They all suck
But the original was better
Some casts are just lightning in a bottle.
Definitely not a fail spin-off, generally a lot of people like it and talk about how it’s better than put a original pretty little liars. I don’t think so there’s some moments where it was better, generally how the plot moved quicker. But the last three episodes it was getting good but I don’t know how to feel
It would have been awesome if the show was set in the 80's/90's and based in Rosewood and the main characters were somehow related to the original liars and were harrassed by a "first" A that somehow later was discovered and became sort of like a "legend" the whole town knew about so the A's we've seen in the original PLL were inspired by that one. I think that would've made way more sense.
interesting review! you do sound a bit picky about certain aspects of the show. i understand some of your critiques but things like "swearing too much" just feels like you're grasping at straws. but yeah maybe the show will improve in your eyes in later seasons. who knows. i personally loved it so much. it always kept me on the edge of my seat. :)
No genuinely I stand by what I said about the swearing. They were doing it constantly and it felt like a lazy substitute for meaningful dialogue
@@SerenaSkybourne i didn't think they were swearing excessively at all. probably a little less than how me and my friends swear on the daily, if anything
I agree with everything you said in this video. The OG pll is one of my favourite shows ever and I’m disappointed in this one especially because I love Bailee Madison so much too so I was hoping this was going to be good. Also what you said about the dialogue was SO right, it was cringey especially compared to the original show
Yes!
The main issue I had with this show was the revealed A way too soon. From the first episode we know it’s not one of the girls and with the original even after Mona was outed as A we still thought one of the girls could be A.
My other issue is the visuals. It feels too much like riverdale with just a pll plot (I had no idea the visuals guys from riverdale was on this show) I wanted pll pt 2 and this show didn’t live up to it.
Then there’s the lack of real friendship. PLL always had that friendship arch going on, will they chose themselves over the group and A always used that against them.
I was also very underwhelmed by the reboot, though there were some parts I liked, like the mystery surrounding the mothers and Angela waters, most of it really bothered me, like the dialogue acting, and overall A reveal. It just felt like the build-up of A through the entire season was almost rushed through in the final episode, and it ended up feeling very surface-level and unsatisfying to me. I wish they had gone into Archie's backstory a little more, rather than him being this spooky killing machine. I appreciated their trying to discuss all the issues they did, like racism, sexism, and SA, but because they were trying to address everything I felt like they weren't handled all that well. Overall I didn't hate the show but I definitely didn't love it. One show I did like, for the most part, was "I Know What You Did Last Summer" on Amazon Prime. It has a very similar feel and plot to PLL, but I thought the mystery and reveal of the anonymous person was a little better.
Alison would make Karen cry herself to sleep
Alison would only need to make eye contact with her, and it would be over for Karen lmao 💀
Even though I didn’t see all of pretty little liars, I love every video you make about it lol
Oh my gosh, you said this SO WELL. I agree with everything you said. Now I am still intrigued enough to watch it, but it's definitely not very good so far 😬 maybe a second season could make things better 🤷🏻♀️
I just think they chose Aria and Ezra to adopt the baby because Aria couldn’t have children. It just made the most sense to them I guess.
I SAID THE EXACT SAME THING ABOUT BAILEE MADISON!!!!!! If this show could be nominated for a tony, she’d take home the gold.
The moment they mentioned Ezra and Aria I cringed. Like, y'all just wrapped up a r*pe plotline and precede to unravel that by bringing a predatory relationship into the mix? I know Lucy Hale said she's available but that's not how to hint at making that happen.
I'm glad the obnoxious #MeToo movement has failed to cancel the Ezra-Aria romance.
The two actors had great chemistry together and Aria was 16 and Ezra only 22 when they met.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 just say you're a pedo/support pedophilia and move on, lol
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 What a disgusting comment you made me read with my own two eyes. :o)
Ikr how about have Aria make a cameo and mention she left Ezra after realizing he groomed her 😭😭
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 what? I know you ain't on Wishbone's Internet supporting Ezria! Please seek proper help.
From first very episode, I disliked it.
I was so excited for it, I love slashers and couldn’t wait to see how it all unfolded, but it was just so bad.
The acting was really bad, the writing was even worse and there were some major plot holes (hope it all gets solved in season 2).
I’m really disappointed, especially since I really like Bailee Madison in other things.
Mathilda, great to see you here 😍 💖 I agree with all your points. I love slashers too so I was excited that they tried to make this show seem like one, but the end result was way less exciting and scary than I hoped it would be.
When the principal said he was Angela’s father I was so confused, to me the actor looks like he’s the same age as sherif Beasley like the dude should be a grandpa
The blood collection scheme killed me. Oooo we have a match only 66 people to now go through. Truly a breakthrough. Their mindset the entire time while figuring out the clues was wild.
Honestly I think that the reason most ppl enjoyed it is becuz it has everything that this generation is obsessed with in current teen dramas: a pretty cast, moody atmosphere and very brutal murders is all u need to get ppl to tune in.
If u look at al the other popular teen dramas atm theyre all pretty much the same(Euphoria, Elite, 13RW and Winx)
The darker the better for todays teens i guess 🤷♂️
people are attracted to Original Sin because we're in another golden era of slasher movies. halloween, scream, texax chainsaw massacre are all getting a soft-reboot & people love that.
Ooh, I love 'Elite'!
I honestly loved this show more than the original to be honest. But I did feel like the final was a little underwhelming in my opinion
Me too! I was surprised she didn’t like it, I enjoyed it more and more with each episode (though I haven’t seen the finale yet).
I love when you drag a part of a show or a character 😂 you’re so funny
Thank god you posted this! Like you I feel it was just average. Original Sin definitely fixed some issues like not romanticing any creepy behaviour, making A more scary, revealing everything by the finale, diversity, and I liked the parents being involved in the plot the way they were. However, I think the main issues for me were the girl's friendship, boyfriends, and the reveal. What made PLL the way it was is the main girls and their secrets together as a group as well as the things they hid from each other. But they always felt like they had a strong friendship the whole time. I never felt with O.S. that they were real friends. I think they could have either had them loosely as friends from the start or they needed more episodes to develop a stronger bond. Same goes for the relationships, like you I didn't care about any of the boyfriends/love interests and was just bored. I never felt connected to it because it needed more time to develop. As for the reveal, yes it's good that it wasn't obvious but I was disappointed because it wasn't someone connected enough to the plot for me. The Principal was too much of a basic forgettable character and A himself being an unknown face is worse. I want the reveals to be deeper and more hard hitting.