For Clarification: Don't buy because it doesn't have a good 'ol Ford 5.0 naturally aspirated V8. -- Ford claims they are giving US what WE want by offering a $150,000 race truck with a supercharged V8. Give me a break Ford...P-leeez! Ughh!
I’m confused as to why you bought a Bronco - none of those 12 things were unknown … I agree with the rain gutters but otherwise I’ll take the Bronco 10 times out of 10 … thanks for your time. Best to you.
Really have to strongly disagree about a few things in this video. I drove a brand new Rubicon trying to convince myself to buy one of them instead of a bronco. The driving experience was terrible with the solid front axle. Yes it might be great for off roading but this is also my daily driver and I don't want to fight the steering the entire time.
@@jasongaudreau2075 For more hardcore crawling a solid axle is way better.That's the point I was trying to make really. for everything else for sure IFS.
@@MotorFeed The aftermarket will make the IFS work rock crawling. All round the Bronco is better for daily driving, and you dont look like the rock crawling type.. more like the mall crawling type of guy
@@uberfishyskillz Hahahah. You're hilarious. Judging by your obsession with IFS... you are probably the real Mall Crawler here. Plus, I only crawl to Whole Foods and not the mall.
Solid front axle makes the Jeep uncomfortable, unstable on road, need constant correction on the highway, and makes for serious driver fatigue, a lot faster than a rig with IFS.. Solid axles transfer energy of bumps to the frame, causing bumpy trails to make driver scrambled eggs, and increasing wear and tear on a vehicle.. IFS absorbs energy of bumpy roads or trails (better the faster you go), is very stable, on and off road, stays in a lane on the highway without constant correcting, so is safer, so (again lol) reduces overall driver fatigue.. There is a HUGE difference in handling between these 2 lol... The husband's Bronco drives where i want and I never need to make constant corrections to keep it in a lane on the highway, like i did with the Wrangler Rubicon he had for 2 years... He sold it early last year after getting use to and favoring my 4Runner. Also Ford doesn't need to "keep up" to Jeep's 392 LOL.. Jeep released the 392 in an attempt to "keep up" with the innovation the Ford brought to the table with Bronco's release.. Quite frankly, the desperate use of a V8 in the 392 highlighted how lazy Jeep has been with the Wrangler, having had that segment to themselves for so long.... Ford dominated the off road pickup segment with a full size F150 Raptor with 6 cylinders under the hood.. That is innovation.. Jeep and all Fiat Chrysler products are gone stagnant.. Using a Hemi or Hellcat to answer EVERYTHING.. That is stagnation.. It isn't 1995 anymore lol
See yes you gave a good description of way IFS is better. But I’d much rather have a solid axle on the bronco so it can flex with the like of the Jeep. Not to mention the approach and departure angles are the same with the bronco being on 35s and your average rubicon being on 32s. For someone who uses there Jeep as a daily and a toy I have no problem with the solid front axle. I’m not a soccer mom and don’t need to worry about ride quality of my Jeep on the street because I could care less. I don’t bomb down fire trails in Washington and rip up the desert on organ. What I do requires slow and technical mobility over rocks and I can’t be lifting a tire. Also I would like to add about the 392 part. Jeep released the rubicon recon package with 35s to keep up with the bronco. Jeep has also been dabbling with the idea of a V8 for a long time and the bronco definitely was a big influence. But not as much a influence as the Jeep was on the current bronco, also the past bronco to add to the matter. I think it’s good that Jeep as competitors as it been dominating the off-road market. I would like to get one someday maybe a black diamond edition. But the dealer markup with for should be criminalizing. You know I can buy a pretty loaded rubicon for the price I can buy a base bronco? You can buy a 392 for the same price as a first edition or badlands bronco😂😂. Prices are killing people.
I have a 2020 Rubicon Diesel. It has the same stupid button to shut off motor. I also have 2021 Bronco with saq. The Bronco ride is far superior and has so much more room in the front. Most people do not take their Jeep out and actually crawl it. I have the V6 and it has plenty of power.One other thing. My Bronco Badlands loaded with Lux Saq was only 58K as the dealer is not supposed to mark up if preordered My Jeep was 65K. The one thing about the Rubicon is with the Diesel it averages about 24MPG on the Highway and the best i can get with Bronco is around 19 in Eco mode on same drive.
Your basic jeep has crank up windows and manual door locks, whereas the basic Bronco has auto windows and power mirrors. Moreover on the Bronco, the power mirrors remain when you take the doors off.
Cool. So you have more weight and more to go wrong? Where I live, the top and doors of my Wrangler are off 8 months of the year. I don't need extra weight and more electrical shit to go wrong. OK, you have mirrors when the doors are off. I can get across obstacles you can't without mods because my solid axles are stronger. And? Broncos are nice...to look at. They aren't nice to take somewhere where they have to prove their mettle. It's not a competition, it's just a reality - one brand was made for a purpose, and one brand was made for cheating people out of money.
While some of this is very valid, the Jeep is a trash everyday driver. Any Bronco is wayyyy better than any version of a Jeep. Steering, head thrash, everything. So I cant disagree more on that one, but thanks for the vid
We had an entire family of Jeep owners converting to Broncos today in the showroom! I have a great selection of used Wranglers!! 2 traded just this Sunday afternoon…
Yeah it looked to me like he intentionally showed the jack but croped out the storage bin 3 Inches behind it. Why? Oversight or playing to the fan base of jeeps while getting hate views from the bronco crowd. Oldest trick in the book. Smash that like button... bell... subscribe... get a job.
The Bronco is worlds ahead of the 2015 rubicon that you compare it to. At least the JL is a little better. I’ve owned 6 Rubicons including the new diesel and the bronco outperforms it in almost every way! Find that I haven’t driven the Jeep much since receiving the Ford. Yes mileage is better, but fuel is 43 cents more around here. We never consider taking the Jeep when traveling on the freeway and that’s not the case with the Bronco. It drives very similar to my Raptors. To each his own, but the bronco is better in almost everyway
This video makes me think you didn’t do much research on the different trim or customizations. Your part on the trunk completely missed the part about all the customizations for this piece of the vehicle like the slide out tailgate, trunk table etc… also calling an engine cover a reason not to buy is laughable.
So, if you aren't ready to order the gorilla glass yet (well may not be available yet for the bronco), do the ceramic hardening coating on it. I did it on my second Jeep windshield (lasts about 12 months) and so far it has really helped. When this one goes will be doing the gorilla glass.
I'd say both vehicles have their pros and cons. But give Ford a few years to figure out any issues that come with a first year model. Honestly, aside from maybe the whole rock crawling thing, which no one but the most hardcore off road enthusiasts do, the Bronco is the Jeep's equal off road and far superior on road.
Agree about the brake pull but I haven't really needed to use the emergency brake even in the snow it had awesome traction .... and I love love love the drive of the bronco so therefore I like the IFS. I wish the back row seats reclined more I can deal with the cup holder issue just bought a removable cup holder/ caddy for the middle and that is actually nice .... just prefer more of a recline then it would be perfect as you can go forward or recline back and probably higher vents for back row too. The grab handles are in weird spots but I am fine it is the shorter people that have a problem but even my 9 year old gets in great but he is limber :) I think the number one thing I would change is the recline in the back because on road trips or long day trips the back get too stiff but the driver and passenger are super comfy !!! And I love the 2.3. As for the glass there are already aftermarket products available to get it stronger ... and my warranty covers windshields too.
ha. check again. My key was turned to the "acc" position and it was not running. All the lights are on in that mode. Try harder when you troll next time.
Bolts store in the tool bag Ford provides, and the doors/panels have bags to store them at a price. There’s the option to bag the doors and take them with you, but I haven’t seen a video demo yet. The Bronco has side curtain air bags, which is probably why there aren’t grab handles in that location. I’m curious to drive a Bronco and compare it to my Wrangler. ✌🏼😎
I've had my Bronco since Dec. 1st 2021 and I haven't had any of the issues this guy is complaining about. Most active people won't have any issues getting in and out. I've only open the hood to connect my light bar. So much power and speed too. As for rain. It's rain, you're going to get wet either way. This guy is a jeep guy with absolutely no love for the Bronco. Order the Big Bend, add the options you want and it'll take less than 3 months. Enjoy 😉
@@Carl-vx9ws my Bend is base no lockers...soft top...aluminum wheels...i didn't have a choice! It was on the lot...because someone cancelled their order! 😂😂😂 i got lucky...and someone wasn't paying attention to what is going on in the world! 😂
@@zoobrizz I've always felt the same but.......my Bronco Raptor will be delivered to my dealer in about three weeks. There is no denying Ford hit this one out of the park. At 57 Y.O. I think my first Ford will be a good one :) And I will be one of the 2% that actually uses it off road.
One more thing about rain gutter. On Rubicon the rain literally comes out at the driver and pass front doors as they end about 3 inches before windshield/.
Agree on the daily comment. I think the Bronco is a better all-around daily/take it through some back roads vehicle. But if you plan on hitting some tough trails, nothing beats the Jeep.
First up, we have a recall issued for certain 2020-2022 Ford Escapes and certain 2021-2022 Ford Bronco Sports. Only versions of these models with the 1.5-liter turbocharged three-cylinder are included in the recall, and the final tally is 345,451 cars between the two models. These cars are being recalled due to a potential oil leak issue. Ford’s recall documents explain that the engine oil separator housing installed on these vehicles “may crack and develop an oil leak.” If this happens, Ford says the leaking oil could leak onto other engine components, increasing the risk of an engine fire.
Informative video, well done. In Southern California, rain is not an issue, anytime. Leave the top and doors, and all the bolts, at home. All year. I applaud your support for a manual transmission and a real manual, hand brake.
Seeing a lot of hate in the comments below. Both the Jeep JL and new Bronco have their advantages and disadvantages. The FIS on the bronco is nice for freeway driving but you will always have more capability off road with a solid front axel on the JL. Yes requires more input from the driver but if you are really bothered by it, install a Falcon adjustable steering stabilizer and it will improve the drive quality immensely. Took me 20 min to install on my JL and no driver fatigue on long trips.
I’ll admit you have some good points about the front windshield and the roof rain wells. But, you come off as extremely biased and inauthentic when you only film reasons to not buy a Bronco. I don’t see any videos on your channel about reasons not to buy a Jeep or other vehicles. Maybe stop creating click-bait videos and provide genuine content
Haha.You're hilarious. Maybe you should realize I only just now hit 10k subs and started taking YT seriously. Give it time and more content will come. there are plenty of reasons to also not buy a Jeep, and reasons to buy a Bronco as well. Also, 135,000 views and a like ratio of 90% on my recent Bronco video seems like genuine content to me.
@@MotorFeed glad to hear more content is coming and congrats on the success of your videos! Hoping to see some diverse content in your next postings and not just more Bronco click-bait
@@Nicolasgene0617 Oh trust me.. I really tried to write some "non-clickbait" titles but YT did not push them. The second I used what you consider "clickbait" titles, my views skyrocketed. So, blame all the users on here and TH-cam. Not me. What I have observed (so far) is that once you build a huge following, you can use more straightforward (boring) titles. But small creators have to do something to break through all the noise. It's a double edged sword.
@@MotorFeed I mean if you’re going to get in in arms about people calling this video out maybe you should do better than having 90% of your “reasons not to buy” be cosmetic preferences. I knew from the second you stated you were a rubicon owner it was about to be crazy biased. Tac, windshield preferences, grab handles, engine covers, and rain gutters are not legit reasons not to buy a car.
gorilla glass is a farce. I cracked easier than my stock windshield. 2020 Gladiator 3rd windshield. The problem is the power. The Jeep was never meant to go as fast as it does with that flat windshield.
-_- you're not wrong about the articulation, you are wrong about the steering. Jeep hasn't changed with the times, the rack and pinion steering left me constantly guessing where to steer while driving. Don't thinks that's a valid point? The Waldo guy from TFL said the same thing in his bronco review. Engine cover? It has a hood, who cares. The window issue with the bronco isn't affecting all Broncos that point is null and void A place to put all the door/top pieces!? They give you a tool kit like jeep to put them in. Rain gutters... Got me I hate my soft top bronco cuz of it. You can't put a handle on top bronco has curtain airbags (jeep doesn't) so the dash makes sense. Finally, we know bronco raptor is a 3.0 the only hope for a v8 would be ford doing what they did with the f150 raptor, releasing a type r later down the road.
Some valid points here for future improvements. However none of them are deal breakers for me. My order is being tracked just like a pizza. It just got built yesterday and will be delivered 1st week of April. Should get it by 2nd week of April. 2 door base manual.
Wait until folks find out how the relays and wiring start failing in em... It's so bad here last Friday I had a new sign made delivered that we will no longer work on Ford products here. People think because I am top notch shop I can fix these defective F150's on up the line and I can't period. I had the president of local coal company call me because it seems the places that did or would work on them are doing about what I am doing is not working on em. It's not a boycott or a protest it's just the fact a few of em I spent hours and hours on the phone with Ford and Ford dealers with no luck at affecting any repairs that remotely even worked.
Great info. I've never understood why an engine cover is necessary for this type of vehicle. The hood is the engine cover. Plus, however minor, doesn't it just trap more heat?
Just from a mechanics standpoint I’m actually a fan of that cover not being there. Most people don’t work on their own stuff and don’t open the hood anyway so doing away with a cover that is basically pointless I think was a good call. Saves Ford money saves me time and to me it’s a bit like the old man who who as aged past his filter. Yeah it’s not particularly nice but you know your not being bullshited
Hate people that do videos and do 0 research. Bronco comes with a bag with tools you need and in the bag it has pouches for your hardware so you don't miss place it. And you can't put wrap around handle up top due to airbags. Handles aren't loose they have spring like feature built into them. And on the road the Jeep Solid axels ride can't even be compared to the Bronco.
@@MotorFeed so you like that Ford gives you all the tools you need to do doors and top? In a nice neat special bag? Then when you need tools the bolts are right there is same bag. And they don't rattle and or bounce around like in Jeep tray....hmmm
Wow. You must be very angry with the Bronco. You’re only legitimate complaint is the handbrake. Concerning the stick, the 2.3 has the same power as the 3.6 stick in the Jeep. The Jeep V8 and 35 in tire packs are a joke. Oh and the Bronco is crawling over everything the oem Jeep goes over.
The 35s definitely help the bronco. I would like to own a bronco one day but the prices are waaaaay to crazy at the moment. I will add that a jeep on 32s has the same approach and departure angles as a bronco on 35s. If Jeep replaces the solid axles on the wrangler it would 110% loose most of its buyers. It’s just so simple and durable compared to independent suspension. That’s why you see bronco chirping tires and breaking axle shafts and controls arms trying to do Jeep stuff.
@@tristansundquist1834 I paid $48k for my badlands. The local Jeep dealer in ca wanted $51k for a $53k 2dr stick Rubi 2 years ago. They are not breaking axles they are breaking tie rods. I have seen many a modded and oem jeep break axles on the trail though. Hard to lose 110% of your buyers, is that where 10% pay you to take their jeep? Again I have yet to see an oem Jeep go anywhere where a new oem Bronco can not. There may be a place, I have yet to see it though.
@@michaelm1105 I’m not bashing the bronco at all. But I’ve never seen a badlands bronco for under $70,000. I saw one the other day that was in the 90,000s. Yes Jeep owners snap entire axles in 2 but it’s not as frequent. I’ve seen plenty of videos on TH-cam where the broncos front tires start bouncing different directions and parts break. I personally would never buy the first production year of a vehicle. Gives them time to make aftermarket parts and work out any flaws in the design.
@@tristansundquist1834 Again its the tie rods breaking not axles. A friend is selling all his ordered Broncos for $500 under invoice in KC. I got mine for msrp in ca, which is less than the Jeep msrp.
Why would you want to buy a different vehicle, if another manufacturer makes what you want? Buy a jeep if you want a jeep but if you want something different get a Bronco. Your points are Moot!
Grab handle at the top? there is an air bag up there. Jeep doesn't have that. That's why its not there on the Bronco, if it deployed it would tear your arm off.
What is the point of the manual rpm gauge the digital works fine. How often do you actually use your rpm gauge when driving. Even in a manual anyone with experience shifts by sound unless racing on the track. Bronco is an off-road vehicles not a sports car.
The price, for a decent one 50,000 The engine options suck That’s as far as I got before deciding it wasn’t worth it. If I could buy a decent 4 door with a 5.0 for 35,000ish it would be in my driveway.
4 door Unlimiteds are overrated, same with Broncos but that's just me. I do prefer the original 2 door. Now for 4 doors I definitely don't mind the Gladiator truck. Now I wish they made a Bronco version of that lol.
My damn 2021 wrangler let's water in as soon as you open the door. The gutters leak right into the foot well. SMH you have to buy deflectors to let it run down the windscreen.
The Bronco is really awesome. I have the black diamond and it's just so stable, classic looking and smooth for being on a truck frame. It's fast with it's 2.7 engine and there's plenty of room. I never liked Jeeps but I love this thing.
I don’t think rain gutter helps to stop heavy water fall also. Or it’s not really big faults to not have one. Wrangler not even safe in the rainy road. But at least bronco can control better than that.
I am big jeep fan and I really do respect the Bronco. Almost considered buying one. Reason why I didn't is as a Master tech I don't trust a single engine the Bronco has. I don't wheel everyday so i can do without solid front axle, I cant go everyday with an engine that will detonate at any moment without warning. Put in a naturally aspirated v6 or 5.0 and I might just buy one.
Because I built a Full Size and it is great. Solid Axle? Nah I gusseted and plated my beams and have a lot of travel with 4x4 on Kings Gears lockers and a good V8 . I like it a lot.
Saying Jeep has perfected the solid axle is ridiculous. I rented one a couple years ago and it had horrendous death wobble whenever I touched the brakes on the highway. It only had 9000 miles on it.
Someone must have damaged the rental before you got it. Which happens a lot. "Death wobble" only occurs when people lift them with crap parts and don't align it properly. Also, shaking under braking is NOT death wobble. It probably had warped rotors. Rentals cars are abused.
Agree with the handbrake, and organization for the top, and the opinion two doors look better than the four but if it’s a two door, I want the same trunk space as the OG, and I want the V8. The engines in the Bronc, and the baby Bronc is borderline a waste.
I actually wanted a rubicon, but when I test drove it the first thing noticed was how badly it drove down the street, this is before the bronco was even out, you saying that ppl won't notice is baffling to me. When I got to test drive the bronco it was the first thing I was curious about, let's face it a solid axle is great, however it's a daily driver and it'll spend most it's time on the pavement.
Honestly if i wasnt a giant id be happy with a wrangler, but as it is, at 6’4” the wrangler (4door) feels way to small inside for me. Along with the fact that half my head hits the bar across the jeep behind the front seats, those are the two reasons I’ll be getting the bronco badlands. Then i can upgrade things here and there(haha shoot there was even a bronco outfitted with a solid axle)
I see so many people already said it, not sure why you have a bronco if you miss a wrangler so much, you need to understand it’s a completely different vehicle, if you want all those features, go and buy a wrangler instead
In my jeep gladiator rubicon I most certainly get rain water on me when I open the doors or windows well after rain has stopped. Also have gas my truck for a couple years now and no chips or cracks in windshield yet **knocks on wood.
The title is obvious clickbait that many creators use to try and generate more views which is okay but when use a title like that you should have at least one or two actual deficiencies and not just a dozen personal preferences to list. Now, most of these preferences are so personal as to be totally meaningless to anyone but the individual. However, there are three presented here that I've heard more than a few reviewers say that the Bronco absolutely does NOT need. The first is a solid axle. If you want a solid axle off road vehicle and you insist on buying it brand new from the dealer then go buy a Jeep. If Ford made the Bronco solid axle then they'd just be making a Jeep Wrangler. Except for heavy duty pickups the only vehicle sold to the general public that has a solid front axle is the Jeep Wrangler. Even every other Jeep product uses IFS with most using IRS as well. Same with Land Rover and now Mercedes with their G-Wagon. Toyota's 4Runner has always been IFS and the Land Cruiser has been IFS for three generations now. So why is that? Because the vast majority of people buying these vehicles have never, and will never, come close to needing the maximum off road capability that a solid axle vehicle can provide but they will benefit from the improved ride, handling, comfort and long term decrease in fatigue and maintenance issues the typical IFS setup offers. Has solid axle tech improved? Yes. Is it IFS comparable yet? Nope. You are used to it so it doesn't seem noticeable but those who are not can tell quite easily. The other issue is that truly hard core crawlers don't use stock vehicles anyway. The Rubicon won't do anything the Sasquatch Bronco can't do stock for stock. It's advantage lies within it's ability to be more easily upgraded. And both are far more capable than the overwhelming majority of buyers will ever need. The Bronco does NOT need a V8. Look, I like V8's as much for their simplicity as their sound. But as far as actually getting the job done and doing it well the turbo V6 is great. The 392 Wrangler was cool but irrelevant and won't be made for long. Not saying it wasn't well done but it was more a publicity stunt than a meaningful long term addition to Jeep's lineup. And only the person who can and would actually buy the near triple digit special edition of anything should complain about it not being available. After all, if you can't afford it then it doesn't exist even when it does. And, guess what? So called halo vehicles do not increase sales. It's a car enthusiast myth. The Raptor exists because the F-150 is so successful, not the other way around. And Ford has sold about the same number of trucks on average since it's release as they always have. It's just instead of buying the traditional F-150 roughly 45 to 60 thousand buyers a year buy the Raptor. Is it cool? Sure. But if it didn't exist nothing in the truck landscape would change as far as sales volume and market share is concerned. The Bronco does NOT need a manual transmission. Manual transmissions were once stronger and more reliable than automatics but like solid axles being more easily upgraded, that's no longer true unless you do upgrade and almost no one will do that. And those who will don't need the factory to supply them. They are fun in a sports car but not at all the best for ultimate performance even though I think absolute numbers aren't the best measure of driving fun. In any event, the take rate on manuals even in sports cars is less than ten percent. In other types of vehicles it's less than five percent. As a manufacturer it's a pointless venture to keep offering something 90% of guys run their mouth about wanting yet only 5 to 10% of those guys actually spend their money on when it comes time to buy. As they say, talk is cheap. Manuals are also the worst thing for anyone other than highly experienced off roaders. And, well, the guys with enough passion and experience to safely and expertly use a manual in a rock crawl situation do not need a manufacturer to offer one from the factory. In fact, they'd break the factory version the first time out any way. Like yourself I don't like digital dashes or stop/start tech but don't be surprised when it comes to the Wrangler in the very near future.
Good video. I recently purchased the Bronco Base V6. I really love the vehicle but I do like your points and took notes on things I can do to the Bronco along the way. Hopefully they will make better aftermarket hardtops eventually and offer a gorilla glass option. I plan on modifying my Bronco along the way
For anyone not familiar with technical aspects, STOCK (unmodified) the Bronco is a much better mom car and grocery getter as it’s much more comfort oriented. Jeeps will be significantly better stock for off-roading but not as much a daily driver… that being said if you’re buying for comfort you’re buying the wrong cars outright
Bro, I’m with you on the V-6 having a manual that’s the only thing holding me back from buying it because I don’t want a four-cylinder but I do want a manual
@@michaelhulsey201 Man, I will never buy another jeep in my life, brother they’re in electrical nightmare I sold my jeep for that reason I had all the fuse box and harness replaced on my jeep. Then I sold it. luckily, I had it under warranty still but the ECU was replaced after a few months of owning my jeep then I had some kind of electrical headlight issues then AC problems and this jeep was purchased new .
@@Caprice1977 I won't deny that Chrysler/Stellantis/Whatever they're calling the company this week has some lackluster QC. And I'm sure Ford will improve on things too. I'm just saying that right now, this 1st Gen Bronco, at least to me, isn't what a serious offroad vehicle should be. I get that most probably aren't buying it for that reason, but it still lacks in the areas Jeep excels. It doesn't even borrow from Ford's previous history with offroading. It's baffling to me. But it does look nice.
I ordered a Maverick that never showed up. They didn't tell me I had to put $500.00 down to lock it in as mine. I ordered it last August. The dealer I ordered it from said it hadn't been made yet. I took the same paper work to another dealership and presented that paper work to see what they could find out and they said they couldn't find out anything because there was no purchase code or anything in the system that says I ordered one. Sooo I said OK, Id like to order one thru you guys. They said Fords not taking orders at this time.. What a bunch of assholes!
handles for the driver? not only did I take it off my truck from hitting my head entering the vehicle, I want the driver holding on to the steering wheel!
My guy, wouldn't a handle on top of an explosive- ie the airbags - be a hazard? The reason the handles were placed as they are was because of the full side curtain airbags.
I agree the rip it pull Parking Break Handle is necessary for all vehicles. The Mach E is already rolling down Driveways with electronic Actuated Push Button Parking Break. Parking on hills especially mountain canyon living. Agree the Proper 3rd Pedal 6 Speed Manual Transmission in a none Turbo V6 and V8 Great Video and honest Critique from Jeep Owner 👦🏻👍🏻🏎️🏁 The rear triangle window of Mustang Convertibles don't close either on the S550
Wrong, wrong, wrong. This guy is way off base. I'd like him to answer why so many Wrangler owners feel the need to upgrade their suspension right off the bat? After all of those years they still cannot get it right - right out of the showroom. As far new engine offerings, give a year or two and Jeep will be grasping to keep up (like they already are). A waste of ten minutes
@@MotorFeed I actually didn't - that's why I said 'not worth 10 minutes' To update you on your first complaint: Ford a few weeks ago told all their dealers that if they try and sell above MSRP, they will lose the allocation on future vehicles (how many they allowed to order & buy from factory).
I hate 2 things at Bronco: 1 disorganized under hood pipes and cables, 2 Transmission. Once those 2 things are solve bronco shall keep thumb up towards Jeep wrangler.
You can’t compare men underwear with panties and there’s a huge drivability difference between solid axle and independent suspension plus you don’t need a v8 on the bronco the 2.7 kicks ass
my guy opened up the bolt holder in the bed... closed his eyes and said 'nope isnt here hahah. boy open that floor covor a little more... you almost got there
Some of the things you'd like to see different are valid and some are not. A tach is a tach whether is a physical tach or an electrical tach, the purpose is to tell you the RPMs and both do that. As for a grab handle that Jeep offers for an additional $80, I agree with you. The Bronco needs a grab handle to help get in and out. The handle on the left side of the steering wheel can help, but not as much as one a little higher up. If you use the existing handle, obviously you have to grab it with your left hand since it's on the left side once you're inside. Still, a handle higher up would be better. I have no experience with the thicker windshield and don't know anybody that has an experience with it. I'm sure it will also get broken or cracked from time to time and I wonder how much different the replacement cost might be. That's something I've been considering. I've been thinking about buying a new Jeep Wrangler or a new Badlands Bronco and have been going through as much information as possible so I appreciate your video with direct comparisons.
2003 f150 with those stupid handles i kept hitting my head on until I took off the drivers side. I don't want a driver grabbing handles instead of driving in a bad situation. like i said, stupid!
Your channel is so confusing . One video I love the Bronco Wish I could find one to buy then you get mad at the markup and lack of inventory Next video what I hate about the bronco and reasons not to buy. SMH In this video You Wish bronco had a V8 version. You mean like the Jeep you bought ? And by the way good luck finding a Jeep 392 without dealer markup which you complain about as well on the bronco and on a further note. It took Jeep 40 years to come out with a V8 version from the last version and only after Ford announced the Bronco The comparison on the front axle, I have a 2019 Jeep JL and a 2022 Ford Bronco. There’s no comparison on the ride, the Ford hands down is a nicer ride as well as less taxing to drive long drives and it’s fully capable for 99% of the people going off road . There is zero chance Ford changes to solid front axle. FYI go back and watch the TFL video he hasn’t disconnected the front sway bar when going over those bumps As far as your other complaints they are such personal preferences ie Hand brake , manual Tac, Grab handle locations & Motor cover Agreed on the decision not having rain gutters on the top is dumb The Bronco is amazing considering it a new model and will keep improving, but your reasoning for not buying one is a tad weak . Or Maybe just click baiting to generate revenue. JMO
SO, as far as a straight axle front end...98.7 people that get a new bronco will NEVER see any REAL 4x4 environment, maybe a dusting of snow on the driveway, so on the streets the front ifs is more comfortable!!!
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Don’t buy a ford bronco because it doesn’t have a V8 all your “reasons” are stupid.
Steering wheel to get in other than that not bad thoughts gorilla glass really
For Clarification:
Don't buy because it doesn't have a good 'ol Ford 5.0 naturally aspirated V8.
-- Ford claims they are giving US what WE want by offering a $150,000 race truck with a supercharged V8. Give me a break Ford...P-leeez! Ughh!
This v6 puts out more power and torque then all the competitors V8's and weighs less. "if the competitors had V8's."
This guy is an absolute moron!
Maybe he wouldn't complain about stupid crap if he got layed once and a while.. LOL
Yes a small turbo charged , always hot, 4 cylinder motor is perfect in a huge box of a truck.
I’m confused as to why you bought a Bronco - none of those 12 things were unknown … I agree with the rain gutters but otherwise I’ll take the Bronco 10 times out of 10 … thanks for your time. Best to you.
I have a Bronco Big Bend and it's Fantastic!
My biggest complaint is the rain! I open my driver door...and yes water does drip onto the seat 🙄
How about noise on highways for hardtop?
But it’s still a FORD
@@shashankankala8476 only soft top was available for me!
Really have to strongly disagree about a few things in this video. I drove a brand new Rubicon trying to convince myself to buy one of them instead of a bronco. The driving experience was terrible with the solid front axle. Yes it might be great for off roading but this is also my daily driver and I don't want to fight the steering the entire time.
I’m with ya in that. IFS is THE WAY for performance 4x4 and comfort in road. Most of the Baja 1000 rigs have it for a reason.
@@jasongaudreau2075 For more hardcore crawling a solid axle is way better.That's the point I was trying to make really. for everything else for sure IFS.
@@MotorFeed The aftermarket will make the IFS work rock crawling. All round the Bronco is better for daily driving, and you dont look like the rock crawling type.. more like the mall crawling type of guy
@@uberfishyskillz Hahahah. You're hilarious. Judging by your obsession with IFS... you are probably the real Mall Crawler here. Plus, I only crawl to Whole Foods and not the mall.
@@uberfishyskillz Here's me mall crawling in my Raptor. th-cam.com/video/AGkvU2dhvK4/w-d-xo.html
Solid front axle makes the Jeep uncomfortable, unstable on road, need constant correction on the highway, and makes for serious driver fatigue, a lot faster than a rig with IFS.. Solid axles transfer energy of bumps to the frame, causing bumpy trails to make driver scrambled eggs, and increasing wear and tear on a vehicle.. IFS absorbs energy of bumpy roads or trails (better the faster you go), is very stable, on and off road, stays in a lane on the highway without constant correcting, so is safer, so (again lol) reduces overall driver fatigue.. There is a HUGE difference in handling between these 2 lol... The husband's Bronco drives where i want and I never need to make constant corrections to keep it in a lane on the highway, like i did with the Wrangler Rubicon he had for 2 years... He sold it early last year after getting use to and favoring my 4Runner.
Also Ford doesn't need to "keep up" to Jeep's 392 LOL.. Jeep released the 392 in an attempt to "keep up" with the innovation the Ford brought to the table with Bronco's release.. Quite frankly, the desperate use of a V8 in the 392 highlighted how lazy Jeep has been with the Wrangler, having had that segment to themselves for so long.... Ford dominated the off road pickup segment with a full size F150 Raptor with 6 cylinders under the hood.. That is innovation.. Jeep and all Fiat Chrysler products are gone stagnant.. Using a Hemi or Hellcat to answer EVERYTHING.. That is stagnation.. It isn't 1995 anymore lol
The Wrangler is way better than Ford junk...that Ifs is weak af
Agree 100%
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See yes you gave a good description of way IFS is better. But I’d much rather have a solid axle on the bronco so it can flex with the like of the Jeep. Not to mention the approach and departure angles are the same with the bronco being on 35s and your average rubicon being on 32s. For someone who uses there Jeep as a daily and a toy I have no problem with the solid front axle. I’m not a soccer mom and don’t need to worry about ride quality of my Jeep on the street because I could care less. I don’t bomb down fire trails in Washington and rip up the desert on organ. What I do requires slow and technical mobility over rocks and I can’t be lifting a tire. Also I would like to add about the 392 part. Jeep released the rubicon recon package with 35s to keep up with the bronco. Jeep has also been dabbling with the idea of a V8 for a long time and the bronco definitely was a big influence. But not as much a influence as the Jeep was on the current bronco, also the past bronco to add to the matter. I think it’s good that Jeep as competitors as it been dominating the off-road market. I would like to get one someday maybe a black diamond edition. But the dealer markup with for should be criminalizing. You know I can buy a pretty loaded rubicon for the price I can buy a base bronco? You can buy a 392 for the same price as a first edition or badlands bronco😂😂. Prices are killing people.
There are already aftermarket soft grab handles. They move out of the way when the side curtain airbag that Jeep doesn’t have saves your head
Good to know!
Would you be happy with a F250 with a Cummins and Allison transmission? Why the hell did you ever buy a Bronco if you only wanted a Jeep?
The Jeep doesn't come close to the bronco in literally anything but rock crawling imo (coming from a wrangler owner) can't wait to trade.
I have a 2020 Rubicon Diesel. It has the same stupid button to shut off motor. I also have 2021 Bronco with saq. The Bronco ride is far superior and has so much more room in the front. Most people do not take their Jeep out and actually crawl it. I have the V6 and it has plenty of power.One other thing. My Bronco Badlands loaded with Lux Saq was only 58K as the dealer is not supposed to mark up if preordered My Jeep was 65K. The one thing about the Rubicon is with the Diesel it averages about 24MPG on the Highway and the best i can get with Bronco is around 19 in Eco mode on same drive.
Love the rubicon diesel!
They sell a 100$ mod that shuts off the start stop permanently
Decades yet death wobble is still a thing.
Death wobble has NOT been a thing in my 22 JL.
Yes it's a real thing. Had decades to fix but can't do it lol
Your basic jeep has crank up windows and manual door locks, whereas the basic Bronco has auto windows and power mirrors. Moreover on the Bronco, the power mirrors remain when you take the doors off.
And your "basic" Bronco is just that...BASIC. It's trash. LOL
Cool. So you have more weight and more to go wrong? Where I live, the top and doors of my Wrangler are off 8 months of the year. I don't need extra weight and more electrical shit to go wrong. OK, you have mirrors when the doors are off. I can get across obstacles you can't without mods because my solid axles are stronger. And? Broncos are nice...to look at. They aren't nice to take somewhere where they have to prove their mettle. It's not a competition, it's just a reality - one brand was made for a purpose, and one brand was made for cheating people out of money.
While some of this is very valid, the Jeep is a trash everyday driver. Any Bronco is wayyyy better than any version of a Jeep. Steering, head thrash, everything. So I cant disagree more on that one, but thanks for the vid
Not sure sure… that 392 Jeep is looking kinda nice!
@@MotorFeed Having a V8 doesn’t make a car good.
If your concerned about comfort your buying these cars for the wrong reason
Broncos has no flex so that makes it a piece of shit when rock crawling, so disagree with your statement
@@jpdrummer86 Bronco has tons of flex
We had an entire family of Jeep owners converting to Broncos today in the showroom! I have a great selection of used Wranglers!! 2 traded just this Sunday afternoon…
I’ll trade my Wrangler eventually for a Bronco.
They will be back for the wranglers
@@Doublebit-pk1el they were gone in no time!
@@Doublebit-pk1el no one will trade Bronco for that garbage jeep
@@Doublebit-pk1el yeah to spit on them
The top and door bolts go into the included tool kit.
Yeah it looked to me like he intentionally showed the jack but croped out the storage bin 3 Inches behind it. Why? Oversight or playing to the fan base of jeeps while getting hate views from the bronco crowd. Oldest trick in the book. Smash that like button... bell... subscribe... get a job.
Complaints are petty but I'm glad you made this video. I want to know these things before I go test drive one and trade the old beast of a jeep.
The Bronco is worlds ahead of the 2015 rubicon that you compare it to. At least the JL is a little better. I’ve owned 6 Rubicons including the new diesel and the bronco outperforms it in almost every way! Find that I haven’t driven the Jeep much since receiving the Ford. Yes mileage is better, but fuel is 43 cents more around here. We never consider taking the Jeep when traveling on the freeway and that’s not the case with the Bronco. It drives very similar to my Raptors. To each his own, but the bronco is better in almost everyway
I had a 1972 Ford Bronco with V-8, manual transmission, solid axles and rain gutters. I didn't know at the time how good I had it.
This video makes me think you didn’t do much research on the different trim or customizations. Your part on the trunk completely missed the part about all the customizations for this piece of the vehicle like the slide out tailgate, trunk table etc… also calling an engine cover a reason not to buy is laughable.
My #1 goal in life is to make people laugh. Looks like I finally did it!
So, if you aren't ready to order the gorilla glass yet (well may not be available yet for the bronco), do the ceramic hardening coating on it. I did it on my second Jeep windshield (lasts about 12 months) and so far it has really helped. When this one goes will be doing the gorilla glass.
Which ceramic coating did you get for your windshield? I was thinking of trying something similar.
I'd say both vehicles have their pros and cons. But give Ford a few years to figure out any issues that come with a first year model. Honestly, aside from maybe the whole rock crawling thing, which no one but the most hardcore off road enthusiasts do, the Bronco is the Jeep's equal off road and far superior on road.
Ya. I'm going to wait a year or so until some of the bugs get worked out. Also hopeful that they come out with a more solid color retro Green as well.
@KFC Man are you speaking from experience?
@KFC Man so you own a Bronco?
@KFC Man that’s nice to read actually. I think Bronco and Wrangler have their own strengths, I actually love both of them but I prefer Bronco :)
@@RLT124 I love my 2022 Bronco, and my daughter absolutely LOVES her Wrangler. We are both fat and saucy in our Mall Crawlers.
Agree about the brake pull but I haven't really needed to use the emergency brake even in the snow it had awesome traction .... and I love love love the drive of the bronco so therefore I like the IFS. I wish the back row seats reclined more I can deal with the cup holder issue just bought a removable cup holder/ caddy for the middle and that is actually nice .... just prefer more of a recline then it would be perfect as you can go forward or recline back and probably higher vents for back row too. The grab handles are in weird spots but I am fine it is the shorter people that have a problem but even my 9 year old gets in great but he is limber :) I think the number one thing I would change is the recline in the back because on road trips or long day trips the back get too stiff but the driver and passenger are super comfy !!! And I love the 2.3. As for the glass there are already aftermarket products available to get it stronger ... and my warranty covers windshields too.
The lever brake is more for having a bit of fun really!
Do you wish your Bronco has it's engine light on like your Rubicon?
ha. check again. My key was turned to the "acc" position and it was not running. All the lights are on in that mode. Try harder when you troll next time.
Bolts store in the tool bag Ford provides, and the doors/panels have bags to store them at a price. There’s the option to bag the doors and take them with you, but I haven’t seen a video demo yet. The Bronco has side curtain air bags, which is probably why there aren’t grab handles in that location. I’m curious to drive a Bronco and compare it to my Wrangler. ✌🏼😎
I've had my Bronco since Dec. 1st 2021 and I haven't had any of the issues this guy is complaining about. Most active people won't have any issues getting in and out. I've only open the hood to connect my light bar. So much power and speed too. As for rain. It's rain, you're going to get wet either way. This guy is a jeep guy with absolutely no love for the Bronco. Order the Big Bend, add the options you want and it'll take less than 3 months. Enjoy 😉
My Big Bend is Fantastic!
@@warrenibbotson3126 Did you opt for the 4A and/or lockers?
@@Carl-vx9ws my Bend is base no lockers...soft top...aluminum wheels...i didn't have a choice! It was on the lot...because someone cancelled their order! 😂😂😂 i got lucky...and someone wasn't paying attention to what is going on in the world! 😂
@@warrenibbotson3126 yes I love my Area-51 2-door. It's been the funnest car I've ever had.
Definitely prefer the Ford bronco over the jeep 10 to 1
It’s a Ford 🤮
@@zoobrizz it’s. Jeep 🤮 jeep are known to be unreliable
@@zoobrizz and the Jeep is made by fiat .. trash
@@zoobrizz I've always felt the same but.......my Bronco Raptor will be delivered to my dealer in about three weeks. There is no denying Ford hit this one out of the park. At 57 Y.O. I think my first Ford will be a good one :) And I will be one of the 2% that actually uses it off road.
One more thing about rain gutter. On Rubicon the rain literally comes out at the driver and pass front doors as they end about 3 inches before windshield/.
Never gotten doused with rain in my JL
I love that messy engine I can see everything and it stays cool
Regarding the IFS, the Bronco was designed to everything. And Ford has the thing for Baja driving lol
Sand is great! But IFS on rocks SUCKS. It's a recipe for disaster.
@@michaelhulsey201 Thank god I don't drive on either one.
Driving any vehicle too harshly over or through anything is a recipe for disaster.
Good point w the rain channels. But owning both, the ifs is sooo much better for daily driving, in my opinion.
Agree on the daily comment. I think the Bronco is a better all-around daily/take it through some back roads vehicle. But if you plan on hitting some tough trails, nothing beats the Jeep.
First up, we have a recall issued for certain 2020-2022 Ford Escapes and certain 2021-2022 Ford Bronco Sports. Only versions of these models with the 1.5-liter turbocharged three-cylinder are included in the recall, and the final tally is 345,451 cars between the two models.
These cars are being recalled due to a potential oil leak issue. Ford’s recall documents explain that the engine oil separator housing installed on these vehicles “may crack and develop an oil leak.” If this happens, Ford says the leaking oil could leak onto other engine components, increasing the risk of an engine fire.
If your really nostalgic go drive a classic Bronco with the shift on the column! I think you’ll appreciate the 10 speed modern tranny!
I actually learned how to drive in a "3 on the tree" Bronco.
@@MotorFeed People today are just too wimpy to drive the old school stick shifts.
Really trying to justify buying that used JK I see LoL! Several of these "points" are Jeep fanbois really grasping at straws. Hahaha
LOL. This is my 4th Jeep so I really don't need to justify it at all. I like the Bronco and will eventually buy one.
You're laughable. Next time check the glove box for the tool kit, you can organize your bolts in their ...
@@NaMinesClarence What's a "glovebox"?
Informative video, well done. In Southern California, rain is not an issue, anytime. Leave the top and doors, and all the bolts, at home. All year. I applaud your support for a manual transmission and a real manual, hand brake.
I think the sway bar disconnect would have solved the problem with wheels not contacting the ground in the video.
Yep!
The sway bar was disconnected. He did that in the video just before going over that section.
Seeing a lot of hate in the comments below. Both the Jeep JL and new Bronco have their advantages and disadvantages. The FIS on the bronco is nice for freeway driving but you will always have more capability off road with a solid front axel on the JL. Yes requires more input from the driver but if you are really bothered by it, install a Falcon adjustable steering stabilizer and it will improve the drive quality immensely. Took me 20 min to install on my JL and no driver fatigue on long trips.
His replies to those comments are so telling. Can't take criticism is such a turn off
You saved me a BAD purchase.🎉😘thank you. I’m sticking with my Sahara Jeep
I’ll admit you have some good points about the front windshield and the roof rain wells. But, you come off as extremely biased and inauthentic when you only film reasons to not buy a Bronco. I don’t see any videos on your channel about reasons not to buy a Jeep or other vehicles. Maybe stop creating click-bait videos and provide genuine content
Haha.You're hilarious. Maybe you should realize I only just now hit 10k subs and started taking YT seriously. Give it time and more content will come. there are plenty of reasons to also not buy a Jeep, and reasons to buy a Bronco as well. Also, 135,000 views and a like ratio of 90% on my recent Bronco video seems like genuine content to me.
@@MotorFeed glad to hear more content is coming and congrats on the success of your videos! Hoping to see some diverse content in your next postings and not just more Bronco click-bait
@@Nicolasgene0617 Oh trust me.. I really tried to write some "non-clickbait" titles but YT did not push them. The second I used what you consider "clickbait" titles, my views skyrocketed. So, blame all the users on here and TH-cam. Not me. What I have observed (so far) is that once you build a huge following, you can use more straightforward (boring) titles. But small creators have to do something to break through all the noise. It's a double edged sword.
@@MotorFeed I mean if you’re going to get in in arms about people calling this video out maybe you should do better than having 90% of your “reasons not to buy” be cosmetic preferences. I knew from the second you stated you were a rubicon owner it was about to be crazy biased. Tac, windshield preferences, grab handles, engine covers, and rain gutters are not legit reasons not to buy a car.
gorilla glass is a farce. I cracked easier than my stock windshield. 2020 Gladiator 3rd windshield.
The problem is the power. The Jeep was never meant to go as fast as it does with that flat windshield.
So I dropped off my F250 at the Ford dealer for a recall this morning. I looked at a white Badlands just like yours. Good looking truck!
-_- you're not wrong about the articulation, you are wrong about the steering. Jeep hasn't changed with the times, the rack and pinion steering left me constantly guessing where to steer while driving. Don't thinks that's a valid point? The Waldo guy from TFL said the same thing in his bronco review.
Engine cover? It has a hood, who cares.
The window issue with the bronco isn't affecting all Broncos that point is null and void
A place to put all the door/top pieces!? They give you a tool kit like jeep to put them in.
Rain gutters... Got me I hate my soft top bronco cuz of it.
You can't put a handle on top bronco has curtain airbags (jeep doesn't) so the dash makes sense.
Finally, we know bronco raptor is a 3.0 the only hope for a v8 would be ford doing what they did with the f150 raptor, releasing a type r later down the road.
Some valid points here for future improvements. However none of them are deal breakers for me. My order is being tracked just like a pizza. It just got built yesterday and will be delivered 1st week of April. Should get it by 2nd week of April. 2 door base manual.
Just got my base 2door manual... love it compared to the 2021 6 speed gladiator I had.
@@larryjones4618 haha my name is Luke Jones lol. I ended up getting mine on March 20th not 2nd week of April. Still stare at it everyday. Love it!
Your complaints are very subjective. It's your channel and all but you're just trying to make the bronco into a wrangler.
Wait until folks find out how the relays and wiring start failing in em... It's so bad here last Friday I had a new sign made delivered that we will no longer work on Ford products here. People think because I am top notch shop I can fix these defective F150's on up the line and I can't period. I had the president of local coal company call me because it seems the places that did or would work on them are doing about what I am doing is not working on em. It's not a boycott or a protest it's just the fact a few of em I spent hours and hours on the phone with Ford and Ford dealers with no luck at affecting any repairs that remotely even worked.
Great info.
I've never understood why an engine cover is necessary for this type of vehicle. The hood is the engine cover. Plus, however minor, doesn't it just trap more heat?
That mess of hoses and wires looks like the engineers didn't finish the job to me.
@@jebsdaddy141 That mess of hoses is because the Bronco has turbos and the Wrangler is naturally aspirated.
I find the handle next to the steering wheel helps maintain driver stability and position without over gripping the steering wheel.
Just buy a jeep then!! 😂
Lol. I have a Jeep. It's literally in the video.
@@MotorFeed I know, Lol
@@MotorFeed his point was, some of your “points” are just bitching and if you don’t like it, then buy a new Jeep to replace your 2015.
@@jimmiller4667 duh
@@MotorFeed Lol
I totally agree about the rain gutters. It’s annoying for sure
I'm trying to mentally see what it would look like with the gutters. lol. Can't decide if good or bad.
Just from a mechanics standpoint I’m actually a fan of that cover not being there. Most people don’t work on their own stuff and don’t open the hood anyway so doing away with a cover that is basically pointless I think was a good call. Saves Ford money saves me time and to me it’s a bit like the old man who who as aged past his filter. Yeah it’s not particularly nice but you know your not being bullshited
Hate people that do videos and do 0 research. Bronco comes with a bag with tools you need and in the bag it has pouches for your hardware so you don't miss place it. And you can't put wrap around handle up top due to airbags. Handles aren't loose they have spring like feature built into them. And on the road the Jeep Solid axels ride can't even be compared to the Bronco.
LOL. I don't want a bag to put them in. I like the organized tray thingy.
@@MotorFeed so you like that Ford gives you all the tools you need to do doors and top? In a nice neat special bag? Then when you need tools the bolts are right there is same bag. And they don't rattle and or bounce around like in Jeep tray....hmmm
@@scottalbanese295 Jeep also has a tool bag. Hmmmmm.
Wow. You must be very angry with the Bronco. You’re only legitimate complaint is the handbrake. Concerning the stick, the 2.3 has the same power as the 3.6 stick in the Jeep. The Jeep V8 and 35 in tire packs are a joke. Oh and the Bronco is crawling over everything the oem Jeep goes over.
So angry I just turned into The HULK. Lol.
The 35s definitely help the bronco. I would like to own a bronco one day but the prices are waaaaay to crazy at the moment. I will add that a jeep on 32s has the same approach and departure angles as a bronco on 35s. If Jeep replaces the solid axles on the wrangler it would 110% loose most of its buyers. It’s just so simple and durable compared to independent suspension. That’s why you see bronco chirping tires and breaking axle shafts and controls arms trying to do Jeep stuff.
@@tristansundquist1834 I paid $48k for my badlands. The local Jeep dealer in ca wanted $51k for a $53k 2dr stick Rubi 2 years ago. They are not breaking axles they are breaking tie rods. I have seen many a modded and oem jeep break axles on the trail though. Hard to lose 110% of your buyers, is that where 10% pay you to take their jeep? Again I have yet to see an oem Jeep go anywhere where a new oem Bronco can not. There may be a place, I have yet to see it though.
@@michaelm1105 I’m not bashing the bronco at all. But I’ve never seen a badlands bronco for under $70,000. I saw one the other day that was in the 90,000s. Yes Jeep owners snap entire axles in 2 but it’s not as frequent. I’ve seen plenty of videos on TH-cam where the broncos front tires start bouncing different directions and parts break. I personally would never buy the first production year of a vehicle. Gives them time to make aftermarket parts and work out any flaws in the design.
@@tristansundquist1834 Again its the tie rods breaking not axles. A friend is selling all his ordered Broncos for $500 under invoice in KC. I got mine for msrp in ca, which is less than the Jeep msrp.
Why would you want to buy a different vehicle, if another manufacturer makes what you want? Buy a jeep if you want a jeep but if you want something different get a Bronco. Your points are Moot!
FOrd had more HP then jeeps V8. Size does not always matter.
Grab handle at the top? there is an air bag up there. Jeep doesn't have that. That's why its not there on the Bronco, if it deployed it would tear your arm off.
Nobody said people would be crashing while holding onto it. Lol.
wow i love your video!!!! this was informative and very entertaining your awsome dude!!!
What is the point of the manual rpm gauge the digital works fine. How often do you actually use your rpm gauge when driving. Even in a manual anyone with experience shifts by sound unless racing on the track. Bronco is an off-road vehicles not a sports car.
I'm obviously racing the Bronco everywhere!
The price, for a decent one 50,000
The engine options suck
That’s as far as I got before deciding it wasn’t worth it.
If I could buy a decent 4 door with a 5.0 for 35,000ish it would be in my driveway.
4 door Unlimiteds are overrated, same with Broncos but that's just me. I do prefer the original 2 door. Now for 4 doors I definitely don't mind the Gladiator truck. Now I wish they made a Bronco version of that lol.
My damn 2021 wrangler let's water in as soon as you open the door. The gutters leak right into the foot well. SMH you have to buy deflectors to let it run down the windscreen.
The Bronco is really awesome. I have the black diamond and it's just so stable, classic looking and smooth for being on a truck frame. It's fast with it's 2.7 engine and there's plenty of room. I never liked Jeeps but I love this thing.
Is it the 2.7 v6 turbocharged?
@@shiniquajones2812Yes.
I don’t think rain gutter helps to stop heavy water fall also. Or it’s not really big faults to not have one. Wrangler not even safe in the rainy road. But at least bronco can control better than that.
It is an insult to the Bronco name, small under powered (no V8), it is the same as the 4 cylinder Mustang, Ford loves to insult their iconic names
Nice job, great details, especially the windshield.
If you're replacing windshields once a year, you need to stop tailgating.
Wow you are a GENIUS! Why didn't I think of that?
I am big jeep fan and I really do respect the Bronco. Almost considered buying one. Reason why I didn't is as a Master tech I don't trust a single engine the Bronco has. I don't wheel everyday so i can do without solid front axle, I cant go everyday with an engine that will detonate at any moment without warning. Put in a naturally aspirated v6 or 5.0 and I might just buy one.
I also think the bronco should have the 4.0 v6 as a option along with manual option
Because I built a Full Size and it is great. Solid Axle? Nah I gusseted and plated my beams and have a lot of travel with 4x4 on Kings Gears lockers and a good V8 . I like it a lot.
Saying Jeep has perfected the solid axle is ridiculous. I rented one a couple years ago and it had horrendous death wobble whenever I touched the brakes on the highway. It only had 9000 miles on it.
Someone must have damaged the rental before you got it. Which happens a lot. "Death wobble" only occurs when people lift them with crap parts and don't align it properly. Also, shaking under braking is NOT death wobble. It probably had warped rotors. Rentals cars are abused.
Agree with the handbrake, and organization for the top, and the opinion two doors look better than the four but if it’s a two door, I want the same trunk space as the OG, and I want the V8. The engines in the Bronc, and the baby Bronc is borderline a waste.
I actually wanted a rubicon, but when I test drove it the first thing noticed was how badly it drove down the street, this is before the bronco was even out, you saying that ppl won't notice is baffling to me. When I got to test drive the bronco it was the first thing I was curious about, let's face it a solid axle is great, however it's a daily driver and it'll spend most it's time on the pavement.
Honestly if i wasnt a giant id be happy with a wrangler, but as it is, at 6’4” the wrangler (4door) feels way to small inside for me. Along with the fact that half my head hits the bar across the jeep behind the front seats, those are the two reasons I’ll be getting the bronco badlands. Then i can upgrade things here and there(haha shoot there was even a bronco outfitted with a solid axle)
Lol. That makes a lot of sense. I am 6ft and sometimes it feels tight height wise. Even with the seat far back. Can't image adding 4 inches to that.
I see so many people already said it, not sure why you have a bronco if you miss a wrangler so much, you need to understand it’s a completely different vehicle, if you want all those features, go and buy a wrangler instead
I already own a Wrangler. It's literally right at the beginning of the video.
In my jeep gladiator rubicon I most certainly get rain water on me when I open the doors or windows well after rain has stopped. Also have gas my truck for a couple years now and no chips or cracks in windshield yet **knocks on wood.
The check engine light on the Jeep sums it up nicely.
Ha. My key was only turned on “acc” accessory mode. All the light come on for that.
Man, you split hairs, the windshield? We all have to replace windshields
The title is obvious clickbait that many creators use to try and generate more views which is okay but when use a title like that you should have at least one or two actual deficiencies and not just a dozen personal preferences to list. Now, most of these preferences are so personal as to be totally meaningless to anyone but the individual. However, there are three presented here that I've heard more than a few reviewers say that the Bronco absolutely does NOT need.
The first is a solid axle. If you want a solid axle off road vehicle and you insist on buying it brand new from the dealer then go buy a Jeep. If Ford made the Bronco solid axle then they'd just be making a Jeep Wrangler. Except for heavy duty pickups the only vehicle sold to the general public that has a solid front axle is the Jeep Wrangler. Even every other Jeep product uses IFS with most using IRS as well. Same with Land Rover and now Mercedes with their G-Wagon. Toyota's 4Runner has always been IFS and the Land Cruiser has been IFS for three generations now. So why is that? Because the vast majority of people buying these vehicles have never, and will never, come close to needing the maximum off road capability that a solid axle vehicle can provide but they will benefit from the improved ride, handling, comfort and long term decrease in fatigue and maintenance issues the typical IFS setup offers. Has solid axle tech improved? Yes. Is it IFS comparable yet? Nope. You are used to it so it doesn't seem noticeable but those who are not can tell quite easily. The other issue is that truly hard core crawlers don't use stock vehicles anyway. The Rubicon won't do anything the Sasquatch Bronco can't do stock for stock. It's advantage lies within it's ability to be more easily upgraded. And both are far more capable than the overwhelming majority of buyers will ever need.
The Bronco does NOT need a V8. Look, I like V8's as much for their simplicity as their sound. But as far as actually getting the job done and doing it well the turbo V6 is great. The 392 Wrangler was cool but irrelevant and won't be made for long. Not saying it wasn't well done but it was more a publicity stunt than a meaningful long term addition to Jeep's lineup. And only the person who can and would actually buy the near triple digit special edition of anything should complain about it not being available. After all, if you can't afford it then it doesn't exist even when it does. And, guess what? So called halo vehicles do not increase sales. It's a car enthusiast myth. The Raptor exists because the F-150 is so successful, not the other way around. And Ford has sold about the same number of trucks on average since it's release as they always have. It's just instead of buying the traditional F-150 roughly 45 to 60 thousand buyers a year buy the Raptor. Is it cool? Sure. But if it didn't exist nothing in the truck landscape would change as far as sales volume and market share is concerned.
The Bronco does NOT need a manual transmission. Manual transmissions were once stronger and more reliable than automatics but like solid axles being more easily upgraded, that's no longer true unless you do upgrade and almost no one will do that. And those who will don't need the factory to supply them. They are fun in a sports car but not at all the best for ultimate performance even though I think absolute numbers aren't the best measure of driving fun. In any event, the take rate on manuals even in sports cars is less than ten percent. In other types of vehicles it's less than five percent. As a manufacturer it's a pointless venture to keep offering something 90% of guys run their mouth about wanting yet only 5 to 10% of those guys actually spend their money on when it comes time to buy. As they say, talk is cheap. Manuals are also the worst thing for anyone other than highly experienced off roaders. And, well, the guys with enough passion and experience to safely and expertly use a manual in a rock crawl situation do not need a manufacturer to offer one from the factory. In fact, they'd break the factory version the first time out any way.
Like yourself I don't like digital dashes or stop/start tech but don't be surprised when it comes to the Wrangler in the very near future.
Just bought a ‘24 bronco and it broke down at 20 miles. It had 8 miles on it when I got it and I drove it a whole 12. It’s a cheap novelty imo.
Some good points I never considered before
Good video. I recently purchased the Bronco Base V6. I really love the vehicle but I do like your points and took notes on things I can do to the Bronco along the way. Hopefully they will make better aftermarket hardtops eventually and offer a gorilla glass option. I plan on modifying my Bronco along the way
Congrats on the Bronco. The base is a great place to start!
#13 - need ac vents for rear passengers on center console or door pillars (not on the floor).
For anyone not familiar with technical aspects, STOCK (unmodified) the Bronco is a much better mom car and grocery getter as it’s much more comfort oriented.
Jeeps will be significantly better stock for off-roading but not as much a daily driver… that being said if you’re buying for comfort you’re buying the wrong cars outright
You couldn't give me a 2007 or newer chrysler product
Bro, I’m with you on the V-6 having a manual that’s the only thing holding me back from buying it because I don’t want a four-cylinder but I do want a manual
Go with the JEEP and get a real off-road vehicle. Even a Sport is better than the Bronco.
@@michaelhulsey201 Man, I will never buy another jeep in my life, brother they’re in electrical nightmare I sold my jeep for that reason I had all the fuse box and harness replaced on my jeep. Then I sold it. luckily, I had it under warranty still but the ECU was replaced after a few months of owning my jeep then I had some kind of electrical headlight issues then AC problems and this jeep was purchased new .
@@Caprice1977 I won't deny that Chrysler/Stellantis/Whatever they're calling the company this week has some lackluster QC. And I'm sure Ford will improve on things too. I'm just saying that right now, this 1st Gen Bronco, at least to me, isn't what a serious offroad vehicle should be. I get that most probably aren't buying it for that reason, but it still lacks in the areas Jeep excels. It doesn't even borrow from Ford's previous history with offroading. It's baffling to me. But it does look nice.
Do you have to disable the start/stop each time you fire it up? It's not a one and done?
Yes you do. It's VERY annoying.
I ordered a Maverick that never showed up. They didn't tell me I had to put $500.00 down to lock it in as mine. I ordered it last August. The dealer I ordered it from said it hadn't been made yet. I took the same paper work to another dealership and presented that paper work to see what they could find out and they said they couldn't find out anything because there was no purchase code or anything in the system that says I ordered one. Sooo I said OK, Id like to order one thru you guys. They said Fords not taking orders at this time.. What a bunch of assholes!
Did mention Ford bronco needs a solid front axle 🤣😂😅
handles for the driver? not only did I take it off my truck from hitting my head entering the vehicle, I want the driver holding on to the steering wheel!
My guy, wouldn't a handle on top of an explosive- ie the airbags - be a hazard? The reason the handles were placed as they are was because of the full side curtain airbags.
Stickerfab has a fix for having to turn off auto stop and it only takes 5 minutes to install
I agree the rip it pull Parking Break Handle is necessary for all vehicles. The Mach E is already rolling down Driveways with electronic Actuated Push Button Parking Break. Parking on hills especially mountain canyon living. Agree the Proper 3rd Pedal 6 Speed Manual Transmission in a none Turbo V6 and V8
Great Video and honest Critique from Jeep Owner 👦🏻👍🏻🏎️🏁 The rear triangle window of Mustang Convertibles don't close either on the S550
3 more big things A ford bronco needs ... more cup holders!! Air conditioners in the back . Buttons for the garage opener
At least 100 cup holders and 1 extra for my Big Gulp.
The hood covers the engine. How long did you dig for this video.
Not as much time as you spent thinking about all those comments you made.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. This guy is way off base. I'd like him to answer why so many Wrangler owners feel the need to upgrade their suspension right off the bat? After all of those years they still cannot get it right - right out of the showroom. As far new engine offerings, give a year or two and Jeep will be grasping to keep up (like they already are).
A waste of ten minutes
Thanks for watching all 10 minutes!
@@MotorFeed I actually didn't - that's why I said 'not worth 10 minutes'
To update you on your first complaint: Ford a few weeks ago told all their dealers that if they try and sell above MSRP, they will lose the allocation on future vehicles (how many they allowed to order & buy from factory).
Buy the Bronco because Ford's reputation is so great 😉 At 100k miles it will cost you 3 times as much as a Jeep.
I hate 2 things at Bronco: 1 disorganized under hood pipes and cables,
2 Transmission. Once those 2 things are solve bronco shall keep thumb up towards Jeep wrangler.
I guess you having seen the 2023 Bronco Raptor! 3 litre twin turbo 400 hp with 37 inch tire,
a real bronco would have a v8.
You can’t compare men underwear with panties and there’s a huge drivability difference between solid axle and independent suspension plus you don’t need a v8 on the bronco the 2.7 kicks ass
Did Ford pay you to comment here?
No but I love my bronco I’ve had it since September of 2021
my guy opened up the bolt holder in the bed... closed his eyes and said 'nope isnt here hahah. boy open that floor covor a little more... you almost got there
Next video I will review the whole Bronco while wearing a blind fold.
Some of the things you'd like to see different are valid and some are not. A tach is a tach whether is a physical tach or an electrical tach, the purpose is to tell you the RPMs and both do that. As for a grab handle that Jeep offers for an additional $80, I agree with you. The Bronco needs a grab handle to help get in and out. The handle on the left side of the steering wheel can help, but not as much as one a little higher up. If you use the existing handle, obviously you have to grab it with your left hand since it's on the left side once you're inside. Still, a handle higher up would be better. I have no experience with the thicker windshield and don't know anybody that has an experience with it. I'm sure it will also get broken or cracked from time to time and I wonder how much different the replacement cost might be. That's something I've been considering. I've been thinking about buying a new Jeep Wrangler or a new Badlands Bronco and have been going through as much information as possible so I appreciate your video with direct comparisons.
2003 f150 with those stupid handles i kept hitting my head on until I took off the drivers side. I don't want a driver grabbing handles instead of driving in a bad situation. like i said, stupid!
@@jimandersen3003 it's stupid to not have those handles and not those floppy cloth ones, but good hard leather or plastic handles.
Your channel is so confusing .
One video I love the Bronco Wish I could find one to buy then you get mad at the markup and lack of inventory
Next video what I hate about the bronco and reasons not to buy. SMH
In this video
You Wish bronco had a V8 version. You mean like the Jeep you bought ? And by the way good luck finding a Jeep 392 without dealer markup which you complain about as well on the bronco and on a further note. It took Jeep 40 years to come out with a V8 version from the last version and only after Ford announced the Bronco
The comparison on the front axle, I have a 2019 Jeep JL and a 2022 Ford Bronco. There’s no comparison on the ride, the Ford hands down is a nicer ride as well as less taxing to drive long drives and it’s fully capable for 99% of the people going off road . There is zero chance Ford changes to solid front axle.
FYI go back and watch the TFL video he hasn’t disconnected the front sway bar when going over those bumps
As far as your other complaints they are such personal preferences ie Hand brake , manual Tac, Grab handle locations & Motor cover
Agreed on the decision not having rain gutters on the top is dumb
The Bronco is amazing considering it a new model and will keep improving, but your reasoning for not buying one is a tad weak . Or Maybe just click baiting to generate revenue. JMO
Exactly!
Is the 2024 Bronko better ?
SO, as far as a straight axle front end...98.7 people that get a new bronco will NEVER see any REAL 4x4 environment, maybe a dusting of snow on the driveway, so on the streets the front ifs is more comfortable!!!
Totally agree on this point. Would be a cool option for those who want it. Probably too expensive for Ford to do at this point.
With, the V6, Gorilla Glass and rain gutters, you're looking at a $100k+ price tag 😂