After Owning It Six Months, These Are All The Things That Went Wrong (And Right) With My New Bronco!
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Suggest after wheel rock rashes or curbing, suggest getting tires rebalanced and alignment before going highway speeds.
So that corner bit on the bumper is more evidence that the rear bumper is a bad design. The rear bumper needs redesigning cuz Ford didn't learn the lesson that Jeep had to learn, that is to put the license plate in a different spot cuz it will get caught and bust off in addition to the extra cost involved when replacing the corner. So if you own a Bronco just start saving your money for a aftermarket or custom bumper.
When my daughter was born she was in the hospital for 3 weeks and we were over 6hrs away from home. The Ronald McDonald house was there to help while we were able to take her home. Great organization.
Used to be.. They turned their back on any child that's suffering but doesn't have the jab. Pathetic.
@@JasonNaughton I agree, so what if you are sick, poison shot first even though almost 100% of kids get covid and recover. F Ronald McDonald House.
This was 8yrs ago for me. That sucks to hear because they were a life saver for me and my family. 😔
@@JasonNaughton statistically if you don’t have a vaccine you’re more likely to die, when money is that scarce theyll do what’s most affective. It’s like giving lung transplant to a smoker who will continue to smoke with his new lungs. Sadly it’s no ones fault but your own if you don’t get your kids vaccinated. That’s like not getting them vaccinated for polio
I really do like the Bronco overall. That said vehicle prices are just becoming even more unreasonable for the average buyer.
This model is the First Edition, which is the top of the line. I totally agree vehicle prices are insane, but one could buy a Bronco for off roading and daily use with some nice amenities for the low to mid 40’s.
@Mike Kellum Agreed. I myself configured a black diamond with the options I prefer and got it to about 36k. Now its just a matter of dealer markups that are a huge problem right now.
@@beaulunawolf1198 I reserved in August of 2020. Just received scheduling notification of late March. Two door Bad Lands non Sasquatch. Dealer agreed to sticker. Good luck on your Bronco acquisition.
I’ve seen Broncos in TX for 100k. Was planning to get one, now it’s a no.
Yes all broncos are ridiculous here in Memphis. $60k for a regular bronco and $80k or more for Sasquatch
$185 per hour for labor from the Ford dealer is insane...
135 at my shop
@@joshuagrimes7955 Do local mechanics fix software issues or is that dealership only?
@@mowgli6345 depends, usually the dealer because they have the specific equipment to get it done, would be hard for a third party shop to have all these specific scan tools and programs for ever major brand
@@joshuagrimes7955 yeah and they pay the mechanics shit
@@tomdavis3038 right? Lol
besides for the top, it's held up really well. besides for the shock, it's held up really well. besides for the hvac, it's held up really well. lol.
Guess it could have been a Land Rover story. 😝
These guys are sell outs
@@1024cjtk catch 22 situation: they need to build good relationships with manufacturers to get access to cars, to be the first, etc... but then how can you still say what you really think even when things don't go so well.
Well, they are pointing out the issues while trying not to piss off Ford, so they doing a good job of walking a tight rope. We need to get the message they are putting out and draw our own conclusions. One can call them sellouts, but they are getting access to the next new toy Ford puts out early I am guessing.
👍💯
When you've been waiting 2 years and hear "We''ve had our Bronco for 6 months" 😑😑😑
Jeep wrangler time bro
You've only been waiting a year and half. If you were a day 1 reservation, you should be getting yours soon. I had a 4 door Badlands 2.7 Sasquatch hardtop with tow package, and I picked mine up 2 weeks ago.
You got the raptor right? Did you know you can't tow with the bronco?
@@boxedfender4810 I'm assuming the tow package would say otherwise
@@timjeanjaquet5576 oh my badi should probably check the facts. I figured it was from a credible source.i wonder what they meant.
That vehicle is worth 45k max...70k that's absolutely ridiculous
Big bend is worth 45k that's first edition which is worth 62k
Special edition, extremely limited supply extremely high demand.
Makes sense
You have obviously never built a vehicle before.
@@altongehringer9858 got 30 grand in a 24 year old truck and just bought a new ram your a fool
I would personally wait for the 2nd-3rd year of production when purchasing a brand new vehicle.
Good video!
My concern with the suspension issue is that 99 out of 100 people would not have noticed that leak, leading to a much worse situation for the owners.
Thanks for bringing this to light.
99 out of 100 people will not be taking their bronco off road like these guys
@@Kipbmw you’re probably correct. I know of someone who bought one of these, they are using it like standard SUV, no plans to really off-road at all, and they found out recently that a long multi-state trip it is not a comfortable vehicle (say like an Explorer would be for long trips) which just makes me chuckle at people buying these for daily driving and long trips etc instead of what they are intended for. Guess same can be said for a Raptor as well.
@@watchreport I’d like to add that an gen 2+ with a good alignment is a fantastic road trip vehicle. These days I have an LX570 that’s definitely better for a trip but not by too much. Now my gen2 with Toyo MTs was exhausting lol. I love the MTs but man they’re heavy and don’t track well.
to be honest with you, that leak was solved with an o-ring replacement. they almost certainly took the old shock as a core, resealed, and sold it off as refurbished anyways to make money on it twice.
@@Kipbmw best answer
I`m amazed when I watch these video`s and I hear all the problem`s people are having and the ridiculous price paid and they still speak highly about the Bronco. I can only imagine the list of repair`s at yearly intervals. I will stick with my 4Runner and I`m sure my 2020 will be as reliably as my `96 was. I drove that one for 19 year`s and 308k miles and sold it running fine on the original engine and transmission. calling the new Bronco a long term vehicle is hopeful wishing and likely an expensive journey.
Yep, Toyota all the way.
Good wisdom. Keeping the $$ in the bank and can't beat Toyota reliability. Carry On Sir.
@BL Dontmatter change your handle.
Agree - I have a Bronco on the way but won’t keep it for more than a year. Excited to see the new 4Runner next year
The bronco looks cool but it ain't no FJ cruiser. 😁
My buddy finally got his after waiting an absurd amount of time. 6 month after he ordered it they didn’t even have a vin # which meant it wasn’t even on the factory line yet. In total took almost 7 to 8 months but once the vin showed up in the system it was about a month. He ordered the same model but minus the sway disconnect as he wasn’t doing hardcore off reading and will be more into overlanding and camping. Thanks for always giving awesome real content 😉
That’s a very short wait for this vehicle
@@MrNiceGuy500 Indeed. It took almost exactly 11 months to get mine from order to delivery: 1/27/21 to 12/14/21.
I ordered mine about 10 months ago and have no delivery date yet.
He received it in less than a year? That’s not bad. If you want awesome real content check out Truck King.
"They had to remove this entire piece just to fix this little issue, and it ended up costing way more." This sounds familiar. Like a Tesla that "needed" to have its entire glass roof removed, which was subsequently broken.
Wow! 4k miles and no check engine codes? Must be quality. lol
Check engine light in Bronco never heard about it ? It's jeep Or a toyota thing ísn't it?
@@layne4376 on camera it does, try looking at those wimpy suspension components in person.
That's pretty good for a ford! They always have many problems
@@fireant1272 yeah because others are itself a problem
Our bronco threw error codes on the way home from the dealer. 🤣🤣🤣
love the bronco. i always say, every time you go off-roading, expect something to break. from my CJ-5 to Toyotas... just they way it is, at least for me (AZ). imagine if a tesla had these problems, lol, people would be freaking out, esp at this price point. give the bronco another year or two and that will be the sweet spot to buy for those that can handle waiting. fabulous design.
I have a 2015 F150 super crew with the 2.7 ecoboost. 56,000+ miles without a hiccup and 24 mpg at interstate speeds. Best truck I've ever owned.
It’s funny how you pop the hood and look at the mess of hoses and wires like it’s something cool to look at 😆
Thanks for keeping us updated. I just received my 2D Bronco this week and am becoming familiar with it. The wind noise is higher than my 2018 JKU and I am looking into where it is coming from. I suspect the roof rack may be the culprit. I was surprised at the lack of information (that I could find) on exactly how the cameras work...it seems the camera views are dependent upon the G.O.A.T. mode I am in? Anyway, lots to learn.
You've proven that it's way cheaper to back a Bronco into a garage than backing a Tesla into the same garage.
Yeah I heard Teslas and broncos are getting a back up Cam for the 2022 model year!
@@_RiseAgainst back up cam is required on all new cars in the US. Whether or not you use it is your choice lol
@@CadgerChristmasLightShow Just making people dumber and more ignorant as drivers! Legislating stupidity!
@@devilsatan2973 I have a car with a backup cam and guess what.... you can totally ignore it and actually look over your shoulder or in the rear view mirror if you want lol, so idk what you mean. I do a combo of actually turning and looking then I look at the backup cam. My car also detects when other cars are approaching from the sides and beeps before I can get even close to hitting someone. Works very well and every new car should come with these systems.
@@devilsatan2973 its your choice to use it, its just a blind spot camera after all, and you're more then welcome to try and look out the giant ass pillars required for roll over safety but you may find that difficult if you aren't superman with x-ray vision
Thanks for an honest review. Always appreciate your reviews as you’ provide insightful comments.
The fact they've had it for 6 months and done some off-road testing and no major issues makes me even more excited to get mine.
Ty for the reviews, great work!
I came across one of these yesterday and it is a kool looking thing at a glance but, just feels it's unfinished and rushed ... the spaghetti engine bay, all the exposed panels not covered or sealed up I mean 1 north east winter and this puppy will be needing gallons of rust-oleum or new bolts ... just can't justify the price for a kinda finished product ...
Great video. Not surprised to see some issues with a first-generation Ford. I would not touch one of these until it's been in wide, not rushed, product for several years.
It's a BEAST point blank. Thank You for another great video once again gentlemen. Have a Blessed day everyone
The company I work for in Canada just gave one of these away to an employee for being a good driver,our trucks are GPSed and every week over the course of a year if you don’t speed,your name gets a ballot put into the draw. Pretty cool incentive for the thousands of employees 😎
Love the way they described their so far 6 month experience with this thing. 69k all good, 500 dollars to replace a plastic bumper part at 185 dollars an hour,all good, 700 dollars for a front shock and wheel alignment, all good. And 18 miles to a gallon, awesome!
These guys are clearly bought and paid for.
I don’t think you understand just how brutal 4K off road miles are on a vehicle. There’s isn’t a make/model out there that would hold up.
I like to see a father and his son working together. It’s cool. Keep it up.
I just bought my daughter a two door badlands it’s black and it drives like a dream. She’s waiting for winter, it will be a first for her bronco. She loves that the truck sits up high and you have vision all around the cab. It floats on the road and steers very nice. Nothing but good things to say about the 2022 bronco.
$70k, blown shocks, bad hardtop, random HVAC issues, rusting components, 17mpg. But it's such an awesome truck....what???!!!!
Because they are doing the marketing Ford let them spend there own money on this thing and see how "forgiving" they are about the flaws. The are trying to pass off a $25,000 vehicle as some kind of "value" proposition? Doesn't this Bronco share it's platform with the $20,000 Maverick Truck the flaws might be a bit more forgivable if a Bronco cost $25k to buy.
@@robc8468 that is Bronco sport , you should attend your school again until you know the difference between bronco and bronco sport
Because these issues are only with tfl Bronco not with other broncos ...
@@robc8468 the Bronco shares the same platform as the Ranger, it a body on frame, not unibody. It’s a first year vehicle that has held up really well and is amazing at doing what it was built for. Blown shock? Ok Ford doesn’t make them but was fixed without issue. Hard top issues have been fixed since Ford switch to a different company to build them. Rusting trailing arm mount that has been scratched by rocks, I’m not sure what you expect to happen to bear metal but it’s going to rust lol. Intermittent HVAC issues could just need a re flash. 17.7 MPG in a vehicle that’s shaped like a brick while driving on 35” is pretty good I think.
@@robc8468 "spend there own money"
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Love how the Son says it's been Perfect! Except a whole new Roof, a shock going bad and the AC/ heater coming on full blast and can't do anything about it. It's only been 4k miles. That's far from perfect and 2 major issues.. love the OG guys but the Son in every video is so biased on certain trucks and subs. The Raptor and Bronco. But love the channel and everything else. Keep it up
Yeah, the shock did it for me. Demonstrating off-road capability and key components going out at low mileage. The ac, thing lol.
First year gremlins. Every newly designed car has them. Look at the Tundra. Similar problems that eventually gets corrected.
I mean for a FORD that is good. Fords have literally tried to kill me 3 times. First tow was a f150. The computer went out while towing. Second time towing through the mountains while towing. Fuse box and computer that time. 3 time was a test drive, haven’t owned a for in years because previously mentioned items. During the test drive merging on the interstate between two rigs and lost all power it just fell on it’s face and the semi almost rear ended us. Wanted a bronco but just can’t buy another Ford.
At least they do proper off roading with it. And things happen even to the most reliable vehicles. A friend of mine has a last year Land Cruiser and its alternator broke at 10k miles. The important thing about the shock is that it doesn’t keep breaking.
@@beowulfgrendel24 Ford will never get another penny from me after an absolute POS 04 F150 though my 89 was decent. I'm here because I was just curious about the new Bronco as it reminds me of the ones from the 70's.
This thing has been flawless…except these 6 things in 4,000 miles.
Yeah, this is reminiscent of the TFL long term Raptor review. Thank you to TFL for doing these long term reviews. Any time I consider buying a new Ford, I can watch these and swiftly come back to reality.
Exactly. But they say "its under warranty". I don't care. Its still showing how cheap it is...
Once the warranty wears off these will be a mess.
The “hoop” is called a Nudge Bar.
And so just like the Defender (which many complain about) and other modern 4WDs, you damage one little bit of plastic and it’s a pain and costly to fix. And you will damage plastic bits off-roading.
“A part from all the problems, it has held up extremely well.” 😂
Now THAT'S funny!
Because it's not major MECHANICAL/PERFORMANCE problems, buddy 🤣
Love my new bronco but hate the door windows and how slow they are when you open the door. BMW,, Porsche have been doing this for decades and they are much better. Mine is a 2 door. Love your reviews guys!!!
Great reviews! Always look forward to your opinions…..
Nice father son video again. Really not at all a ford fan but most people that have the new bronco are pretty happy. Much of it got tested on the French military vehicles over the last couple years according to the ford french military video that was out a year or so ago.
I've had my 2-door BL for 5 weeks and love it. Just shy of 2200 miles and she is running great. Hopefully that continues for the next 10 years. Thanks for the update and answering the question of what happened to the Defender.
$63K and comes complete with a faulty top, buggy HVAC system, and over-charging dealer. Sounds like Ford is the new Jaguar.
Still would love to see an on and off road comparison with the FJCRUISER. As an fjcruiser owner thinking about eventually getting a bronco it would be interesting to see what conclusions are made.
Good job on the review….has me psyched…just hope my converted ‘22 Bronco order actually gets built this year!🤞
Thanks for the honest review. Love the channel. What octane fuel have you guys been running?
Love the Bronco. It's a favorite! Looks great, offroads great, almost unstoppable... and like Tommy said for a 5,000 lb truck... and lots of off roading 18mpg isn't bad!
That’s basically what my super crew fx4 gets, can get 20 but you can’t count on better than that. My super crew 2wd would do mid 20s Over several thousand mile average, touching 30 in the right conditions over a tank.
Thanks. I really wanted to consider a new Bronco to replace my aged Scout II. But, you guys have talked me out of it! It's obviously going to be a money pit.
Owned a 2006 Rubicon Unlimited for 4yrs from new. I saw 18mpg one time, Dallas to Houston with a strong tail wind. My mixed driving was usually 13-14mpg. My 2006 LX470 100-series, best highway 15mpg, city 8-10mpg. Mixed is about 12. I need a base Ford Maverick hybrid for daily trips. 🙃
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Sorry guys, but sounds like the Ford dealer hosed you on that rear bumper fix...lol
8:08 if you look at the backup bumper it has a sensor on it which is most likely why labor was more because when you disconnect backup sensors you have to reprogram them.
That's still bs on price.
I love mine so far as well. Badlands with Sasquatch here. The aftermarket is going to explode even more than it already has in the next year.
Waiting a few years to buy a brand new model year car is always a good idea. Little kinks will be worked out.
For a first year vehicle with all new architecture and mostly new technology, I'm impressed with its relative lack of faults and failures. The tech and performance that you and others have demonstrated are also impressive. Too bad the pricing jacked out of all sense of reality by global events and economics make it unobtainium for many/most who might otherwise buy it.
I'm sure they are going to find all the bugs a 4500 miles.
When it is a daily driver and you put on 10k in the first 6 months, you'll notice a lot more.
Uhm, these have been presenting massive problems all over.
@@lilmoris1 Yes, so we have heard in the 5 months since the video and my original comment was posted.
Ford made a great off-roader, very cool looking also, not crazy about the way the convertible top looks.
100%,… I see the soft tops everyday on my travels,.. hate it..love the hardtop though
Glade to hear its Blazed Approved. Fantastic intel and review. Hit like and ofcourse that bell notification.
The AC issue you mention at 6:10 happens to me exactly as you described in a 2019 Ford Expedition MAX Platinum. It is also intermittent and I haven't had a chance to get it checked.
Generally, I like the Bronco. The tech features are fantastic for off-roading. Comfortable highway driving is commendable. Only detractor, which is significant for my kind of off the beaten path exploring, is the bulky overall size. I would either have to change where I go 4x4 exploring or cough up a lot of bucks repairing body damages. So, I prefer my nimble stock 2020 2-door Wrangler Rubicon over a stock 2-door Bronco Sasquatch.
The New Bronco's size and weight is a deal-breaker for me. I was hoping for something the size and weight of the old gen-one Bronco or Bronco II.
It's a real pity ford withdrew from the Japanese market, and coming with the coolest off roader right after
You feel how we feel about not getting many of your awesome vehicles.
That Bestop top is better than the factory soft top. However, Our August 16th Badlands Built soft top makes more noise and has more window wave than our High Package Outerbanks Nov. 23rd build. Great Video. Thank you very much.
My 2017 ford explorer xlt sport appearance package ac and heat goes up and down but it's based on if you get a phone call or not. You might just need a reprogramming on the hvac
Thanks for mentioning your mpg. But with only a 20.8 gallon tank can you also report your range as you drive in different conditions please? Overlanding is about covering ground and my math says the Bronco won’t cover much ground between fill ups. Sounds like the gas tank size is the weak link for the off road community. Wish they offered the 3.0l diesel.
Big tough off road Bronco put together out of alignment, bad shocks, cheap plastic clips, a noisy roof, and an HVAC system that thinks it's a convection oven. Other than that, it's great!
$70K usd
Picking up my Bronco Base on Monday! Can’t wait!!
Enjoyed this six month update. Its a pity these have become so expensive, as they are really impressive.
Whenever Roman says something “but “ comes out of Tommy’s mouth. I sense little competition coming from Tommy. Maybe it’s the father and son relationship that brings this up. Love the channel though.
I'm glad you posted a video. I was trying my best to find the day 1 video to see how much the Launch Edition cost because a local POS dealer near me tried telling me that the LE Bronco with the same exact options had a MSRP of 104,000 and used with only 2,000 miles it was actually worth 114,000. Needless to say I found a new strategy they're using...buy out all the new allotments of Broncos and Mavericks so that they can sell them as used at a higher market price. I told the manager to eat shit when he tried talking down to me last weekend saying that "maybe I shouldn't be looking at a vehicle I can't afford". I can afford a Bronco and that's what I wanted. I had a paid off 2014 F150 FX4 with book of a little over 11,000, about 6K to put down and a really long term job. Now, I have no interest in buying new and fully intend just to wait for a year or two for the market to cool so I can just buy from a private seller and pay in cash.
How many miles on your F150?
Need a hug?
@@gitcypherous About 138000 give or take a couple hundred. I'm aware that KBB always over estimates so I expected and was given 11,200 for trade. But when they started trying to get me into a used LE when I just wanted a new OuterBanks I figured something was up and then I saw the final sales price and about needed a medic.
@@mattbrew11 Yes. Are they free? I love you long time.
@@alpha2gproject783 🍻 happy saturday bud.
Can’t wait to have the opportunity to buy one. Thanks guys
Love the Bronco videos.
Didn't Tommy back the Tesla to the garage?
Runs in the family...🤣🤣
Wow - definitely need a solid steel after market bumper with removable end caps
cant with the beepers
@@02hreblue30 I guess this is why wrangler put them in taillight modules…
Nothing better than spending $70k+ on a Bronco that still needs upgrades right off the factory floor...#facepalm
TFL should drive their Bronco during winter time from Alaska to NY or anywhere in the East coast. After the trip is completed they should do a " what's working and what's not".
My 2008 FJ Cruiser did it with 178000 miles and made it in one piece.
Go to bronco 6th gen group many people have taken bronco to arctic circle and most of them live there only and Bronco is doing excellent
@@hotrod7603 many people ? How many is that. That doesn't sound factual?
I lived in Alaska and people who lived near the Arctic Circle know better not to go with a newly released vehicle.. specifically if it can mean the difference between life or death.
My wife and I were talking about new jeeps and broncos and we agreed we’d take a FJ with 80k on it before We bought either of the other two . Her V8 4Runner had 230,00 on it and chugging along .
@@NCrdwlf smart choice.
@@Dguallpa98 They would need a Jeep Wrangler chase vehicle and a satellite rescue phone to complete a NY to Alaska trip in that Bronco..
I just love my bronco, perfect off and on road
zero issues with my Badlands with Sasquatch Lux, 2.7 and soft top, 3300+ miles so far including 8+ hour road trip with only stopping for gas. Comfortable, tracks like on rails, fun off road, I could not be happier. Also in Cyber Orange, only color I liked. Love the soft top, I flip it back just going 5 min to the store, never would do that with panels. Personally don't care one bit about 'wavy' windows but love the easy flip up in the rear, just ordered some gas struts 3rd party that will make that even easier. I got mine Oct 8 and could not be happier, perfect vehicle for me and my purpose, zero complaints. Currently adding the non-branded Gatorback mudflaps as I can't stand the rooster tail of dirt and want to keep the paint somewhat ok for a while. I'm amazed at how powerful the engine is with such a heavy vehicle. Gas mileage hoovers around 15 for me, but most of my daily driving is 3 miles roundtrip, so barely enough to get warm. On the long road trip I was at 17.3.
As for price, my dealer gave me xprice but even without I'd be happy and yes, it's quite funny to think that the moment I drove it off the lot it was worth 10-20k more, doubt that'll ever happen to me again :-)
Looking forward to more Bronco content! Mine will largely remain stock, love it as is, no need for lift or larger tires here. Plus I hate side steps and if I go any higher I'd need them for the family, not happening, LOL
What an awesome rig ! Someday I’ll get one
Why not save up for something worthwhile and proven like a Jeep.
@@robc8468 wtf did you said ?
Test a 2 door manual Sasquatch when you can. Also, show us how to use a winch properly.
Some of the Lexus will crack the windows when you open the vehicle to get in. Not an issue, it'll take the Canadian winters. Ice may keep the windows from going down temporarily, but not enough to matter.
Great video!
Definitely a cool off-roader, no doubt. But I’ll take my 4Runner or my wife’s GX any day over the Bronco or any SUV for that matter- well except for maybe for a Land Cruiser.
Yes! Keep your 4Runner! This thing will go down as a modern day Pinto. All hype,, no substance.
Who asked you turdota fangirl ? Keep your turd runner you are still driving a boring garbage toyota , i rather buy a old Bronco over that Garbage toyota haha
Quality doesn't get much worse than a Rover.
@@hotrod7603 oh you go around the comments teasing and hazing Toyota owners. More power to you Mr Hot Rod! You sound butt hurt.
and why do we care?
LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON.
IT MUST BE IN THE GENES HITTING DOOR JAMBS WITH VEHICLES
Love the bronco keep making more videos with it
The fact that the windows have to drop down like that for the doors to open makes it almost useless where I live (Alberta Canada) I have a PT cruiser convertible that has that feature and it is such a pain to get into when the windows are frozen shut.
Personally i really like the bronco, it has great styling. It would be interesting if they made a bronco model with a non-removable hard top, with a v8 engine.
We'll get full electric before a V8 I bet.
I'm all for an EV off-roader for sure.
I bet it never gets a v8, maybe only short of some space cadet 80 thousand dollar unobtanium like the wrangler v8.
@@JahyMoonwalker EV and Off-Roader do not belong in the same sentence IMO. You are not going far or for long in an EV in truly desolate off road country. I have never seen a charging station in the back country, but I have seen a gerry can or two of gas save the day.
@@JahyMoonwalker You're not going to get too far in EV off-roading. Where do you plan on charging the batteries in the back country. EV's and off-roading don't mix, the best you can hope for is a hybrid.
@@informedcitizen8687 makes sense for 99% of the mall crawlers and daily drivers that never ever go off road, same for the Jeep. All image
There are actually people out there that will pay 50 grand over the $70,000 sticker? WOW… Clearly a lot of money and not a whole lot of sense!
Awesome! I’m there painter at this Phillong store! I ordered my Bronco a few months ago. I got the same color but the 2 door!
Love the mini in the garage! Looks ace and would be great on a trailer, behind this bronco!
I had hvac issues in a 2015 mustang GT. I see ford hasn’t fixed their blower motor resistors.
man for a brand new Truck like that .. for 70K --- 50K that's not cheap !! .. but leaking shock and out of control A/C and climate control speed .. that is pretty concerning issues. how its going to hold up in the next 8 years ?! I'm long term buyer / ownership.. this is very important stuff .. $750 for one shock replacement .. I'm grateful for sharing your experience. I really like that specific Branco Trim and the New Jeep Wrangler I think the rugged solid style of the Jeep Rubicon is my favorite .. my problem is you pay a lot of money for a Vehicle had questionable Relibitly !!!
It’s a first year vehicle, the HVAC would be a simple computer flash , and the shock is built by Bilstien not Ford. Lots of vehicles use that company, it was probably a 1 off.
@@Matts000 I hope that in the coming few years it will show no doubt how reliable it will be. I truly like the way it looks all around. But we don't make that easy cash that's why I care to enjoy that ownership for as long as I can.. I'm very careful person in maintaining my vehicle from oil change to brand new good quality parts I'm also a Toyota owner 4WD V6..
@@Matts000 there are hundreds of items on a vehicle made by hundreds of different brands. When your waterpump goes out, you don't say "but its made by X company, not Ford". You say, "Ford definitely cheaped out on the waterpump quality". Just like something like a waterpump, even though the shocks are made by Bilstein, they are still a part of the package FORD decided to go with. Ford is the one who backs up the warranty alongside with the company the part is made from, so ultimately its on Ford's team. These issues should be addressed before they're sold to the public, especially at the insane prices these vehicles are being sold for. There wasn't any hard off-roading involved before this shock started leaking. utter crap build quality!!
I have a 87 Bronco XLT with 351 W factory 4 barrel 3 speed automatic. It's all stock except the 33" tires then I got a 90 Bronco 2 and a 21 Bronco Sport Big Bend.
Very good, love seeing these long term update videos! The Bronco really does look cool. Props to Ford for being so good at incorporating their heritage into the design.
Doesn’t look as good at all in person.
Didn’t the parking sensor warn you before hitting the bumper?
I bet I would love owning a Bronco, but would not pay any serious amount over MSRP. Maybe in a couple years the real prices will come back to earth. The 2.3 liter with 7 speed manual would be my ideal.
manual dinosaurs make ZERO sense in the modern era. Zero advantages. Its simply for messing around. I own 3 of them. Never again
Cool truck and I love those tyres!
Beautiful bronce. The MPG is Awesome, considering the weight, I got the same engine on my F150, It gets 21, Zero Issues , Got 120K miles, about 20K off road miles, Yes its hard to get new from the stealership
Thanks for the vid,so glad I didn’t but one right out of the gate,all new vehicles have bugs ,but damn $700 for a shock and alignment ?Looks like the Bronco isn’t a working mans vehicle anymore !
The Bronco has been used more off-road than many would have taken a first edition out and it is performing well! I own a Badlands 4 door without the Sasquatch package and it performs very well when compared to the Wrangler Rubicon Diesel I had. The articulation is definitely not as good, but once off the trails, the Bronco is leap years ahead of the Wrangler for a daily driver. I’m not saying you can’t daily drive the Wrangler, the Bronco is just so much nicer!
The parts costs are definitely in line with any other vehicles. The 2 hours of labour for the rear bumper is the “system” you are held to when getting work done at the dealerships!! Even if they were done in an hour, they charge 2 hours because that’s what the book says!! It’s a rip off. I agree with Tommy. It would have been a very reasonable DIY to replace the piece. The cost to the manufacturer for the shock replacement was quite fair. It’s a while strut assembly and the alignment after should definitely be done. As mentioned, you felt the vehicle was out of alignment at the time anyways. One of the hazards of playing off-road harder than most, the vehicles need more mainstays they wear quicker. Just a fact, but be prepared for that.
My Bronco has been similar to the TFL one in that they replaced both front struts under warranty. Probably a bad set of seals when the shock manufacturer was producing the parts. It happens, isn’t exactly Ford’s fault, but reflects on the vehicle nonetheless. I have the hard top and have not really had any noise issues, but am getting my hardtop 2.0 sometime here. I’m in no hurry as I’m not having issues. I have not had the HVAC issue that TFL is having. I have not had any other issues. As much as I took the Bronco off-road and to its limits (the skid plates can attest to that!! Hahaha) I didn’t exactly buy it for that, it’s mostly a mall crawler and I really just like the looks of the vehicle. I really wish I had gotten the 2 door though. They look SOOO much better than the 4 door models in my opinion. I may switch to a 2 door Sasquatch package model in the future if my buddy gets one in that the original order is rejected by the prospective buyer. It won’t be too much of a cost difference. In fact I may spend a little less and almost get my money back on the Bronco anyways!! Many of the 2ndoor Sasquatch models are ordered ina trim much lower than the Badlands trim. Something Jeep could learn about!! Give people the option to even have a rear locker (!!!) and you may sell more product overall vs holding them hostage to the Rubicon models for lockers!! Even now the Xtreme Recon package is only available on the 4 door Willys or Rubicon and only with the wheezy 3.6. Offer that in ANY level and with the diesel,,,,,,. That would be a nice package! I had the diesel Rubicon and loved that powertrain!! It was a bit expensive, but performed well. Why don’t I have the Rubicon anymore??? I’m fortunate and fickle. I change my vehicles a lot!! There’s no other reason. The Wrangler 4 door Rubicon Diesel was one of my favourite vehicles I have ever owned!! ( I had to say this because the last time I hacked on Jeep’s marketing, I was verbally attacked by some butt-hurt Jeep fan that didn’t know much,,,,,. Truly!) I mean it that it was a great vehicle though. I still like my Bronco better though. Daily driving, loading up with my wife, the dog and a bunch of gear for a week at the cabin and it is much nicer than the Wrangler for all of that.
Thanks TFL for continuing to try out the newest and the greatest!!! This year’s lineup of vehicles is very impressive so far!!! Well done!!
*** Now,,,, helping out the Ronald MacDonald house is excellent!! Switching right from the comment Roman made to a big picture of “Your balls will love you.” ,,,,,,,,,,, ***
While hilarious!!!! I laughed quite hard,,,,,,, it may not be the representation(association ??) Ronald MacDonald House wants??? Hahaha. Still too funny!!
Nice job representing the experience to date with the Bronco!!
Book rate is not always a ripoff because sometimes the job will take longer than quoted and they still have to charge book rate. Two hours does seem like a lot of time to remove and replace the bumper. The labor rate is absolutely insane!
Had to keep scrolling to read this whole comment. Interesting owner perspective (Jeep vs Bronco).
@@BullittKid08 - Sorry about that to it’s hard to get the perspective unless a lot of content is put down. Thanks for the comment.
@@alanhassall - you have a point, but my buddy owns a dealership and he says that scenario is really rare unless they are working on a basket case of a vehicle (so to speak).
The 3.6 with the Extreme Recon package is actually a great drive. The 4:56 gearing is absolutely perfect
I manage a fleet of 2021 broncos that run trails most everyday. The only issues we've really had was people ripping the park break button off.. (There is no e break so good luck if your breaks go out on you.(progress at is finest🤣) Two of them have gotten new engines with less the 1500 miles on them. Not one of the recalled hard tops leak! but the soft tops on a few do. (Just like the hard top is said too) We've had a few rear locker actuators go out. Ive heard That the Texas location has had more problems but they run their broncos harder then Moab does, I'm not sure. They're fun but needs as many upgrades as a stock jeep in my opinion.(I don't like my tires always in the air, makes for great pictures but so does flex and more traction!)
Love the New Bronco having owed a few of the 70's units. Bit expensive but what a beauty.
700$ for a shock and alignment!?
Looking forward to hear how the windows do when they are frozen. Will it inhibit the opening of the doors if the window can't drop? Still torn between the Bronco and the Wrangler. Big money for these off roaders.
Ford has been making similar windows on Mustang convertibles for decades, so they know the engineering requirements. But that glass looked and sounded a little bit skimpy when the door closed. And a slightly less than competent rubber seal could be trouble in wet/icy conditions. Never had any trouble with my 'Stang windows -- but they were large, stout pieces, and I wasn't in a Colorado winter.
I'm curious about this also, as I have never owned a vehicle without an upper window frame. Also my vehicles live outside in the elements no garage. Just thinking of my F150's windows which will not roll down or move in icy conditions.
Repair cost of the rear bumper plastic part is ridiculous. Ford needs to redesign the rear bumper components for a fast bolt on and off of the plastic parts.
That fan going crazy bit with the A/C sounds like it is trying to keep itself from icing by pulling a bunch of volume to warm up and dry off the evaporator. Good thing to have...
$70k for a Bronco????? No way, that's insane 🤮
It’s totally nuts. It’s a luxury vehicle at that price
Well even on the used market the old ones are expensive to so good luck if you're looking for low prices
Can it fly?
In the early 90's I bought a rebuilt 350 engine for 700 dollars from a local shop. I could have gotten one for 650 but I splurged for the four bolt main. Now it costs that much for a shock. I used that engine for the life of that truck and it was still good when I got rid of it. While I love that bronco, I will never own one. Well maybe if I hit the lottery lol.
Agreed! The price is WAY out there at 60k, and if 1 shock coasts THAT much? Really? I didn't see any gold plated parts under there! Overpriced junk!
But it off roads good! Really? Well sure, if you have all the camera and computer nonsense on board. Just be lazy and let the truck drive for ya! That only makes for smarter cars, with dumber drivers!
Haha that's inflation, grandpa
@@zacharyhenderson2902 Lol. There's some truth to that but I could easily afford 650 for an engine. It'd be a struggle to afford what an engine costs now. That same truck cost 250 for a rebuilt transmission. I priced a transmission for a vehicle my wife owned a few years back. It was 6000. So inflation, yeah. But prices on new vehicles and their parts have become out of reach for a lot of people, whipper snapper lol.
that Manscape ad is some of the funniest things I've seen in a while, LOL. :-D
Always enjoy the videos guys. Thanks for the info. BTW, it is “hit it out of the park” not “nailed it”. It is funny that both of you said the same thing. Maybe it is a regional thing.