This was obviously so embarrassing for him to admit, because, as in many, many sexual victims, he thinks it his fault. No wonder he asked his brother not to disclose any of this before the trial. Look at his face, his tears, he can hardly testify. he is even admitting molesting his own brother, because that's what he learned from his own abuser. Now that there's another victim, I hope he and his brother's cases are going to be revisited and give them the freedom they deserve.
His body and facial language says it all! He is NOT lying. He’s trying his hardest to keep it together. The flushing of the face. This wasn’t an act for sympathy. Jesus, set these boys free ❤️
Anyone who believes that this could be faked is just completely out of their mind. This is real pain. Bless these boys. I hope and pray they get out and can finally have a chance at a normal life.
My hearts broken . Sweet Lyle can’t even get his words out. So painful it’s the whimpering in between . U can see how painful it is. That is not an act I don’t care what anyone says that is pure pain
@@Hellerp completely heart wrenching. And to think the outcome would have been so different if it happened in this generation. I would not be able to live with myself if I was one of those jurors. Failed by their parents and also the justice system. I can’t even look at a photo of them from recent without crying 😭
That people said/say this was all fake is insane. The way he’s struggling to contain his crying and making as little sound as possible while tears stream down his face - that’s the opposite of fake crying
The same way he was "crying" when he called the police and said that the mafia had killed his parents? While the other brother were screaming and also fake crying too in the background?
This boy sounds extremely honest. There is NO way anyone could make up that kind of emotional reaction. The fact that he wrote about not wanting to talk about their family's past says how BAD it was. And with the most recent allegations of the one boy from Menudo when he was only 14... Their father was sick, and their mother too... They were so honest and good that in order to throw them in jail that the judge and the prosecution decided not to accept the worse part of their testimony, the SEXUAL ABUSE on the second trial... Talk about an UNFAIR trial..!
First abused by Parents, then the Court system. These boys were tortured their entire lives! Family knew & did nothing. The Judge in the case was criminal in his bias! They have paid for killing their Parents. The Parents were monsters!! Release these Men.
Thanks to Lyle and Erik, there is one less dirty molester and one less disgusting Enabler in the world. Good for them! Instead of being imprisoned, they should be given a medal of Honor. The USA "Justice System" is horrifying that they would keep these men in there for 30 years for this. You get abused and molested for your entire childhood, it explodes all over the Abusers, and now you get jailed on top of that. Sickening.
There was no debt in the first place.Their parents were evil. They should have been given a medal. The father was going into politics as a US senator. He was a sick Predator.
To the ppl who say these brothers are acting, 🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽 you. There's no amount of acting lessons that can compare to the angst and heartbreak these poor men went thru. Thank God these brothers have each other.. 😢 🙏🏽
You gotta remember that Lyle never told anybody other than his mother. then to come and reenact what happened to him as a young child to the whole court and to the world for the first time ever. Trying so hard to keep it together. You can’t make this shit up!! My heart goes out to these boys. May they be set free.
“he raped me”💔😞 3:54 you can truly see the pain in his face and hear it in his voice. this is real, traumatizing, and painful. they need to be free asap
Fr also it's not easy for men today to share that they were abused sexually, imagine in the 90's It really hurts their pride and they don't talk about it today! I can't believe people think they could make this all up while they were in jail
😢😢😢. If he is faking he deserves an academy award !!!!! You can tell he is very uncomfortable talking about the abuse he suffered!!! IF YOU watch the whole trial they had family members uncles and aunts and cousins that suspected abuse ... He even told a cousin who testified that he knew about the abuse..... I believe them!! It's insane that they are still in prison!!!
It’s to help prove their case. In law you have to be super specific with how you support your argument. If she didn’t make it explicitly clear that he didn’t want to be apart of that, then the prosecution could use that hole in the defenses argument to rebuttal and say “well he wasn’t opposed to it, therefore he couldn’t have felt threatened because to feel threatened you have to not want it.” Winning a court case is extremely technical.
When she asks if he wanted to do it he just shakes his head because he can’t speak, this is not a man faking emotion, this is a man overcome with emotion
I cant even manage listening to 9 minutes of this. Could you imagine this being the reality you were born into?!?! Having to deal with this nearly everyday?! Free them!
No it’s not. They only started saying they were “assaulted” after they got caught.they were soiled brats who didn’t get what they wanted so they killed their parents. They deserve life in prison!
@@MissesSniffles That is factually not true. They told several people about the abuse long before the killings took place. We have Lyle's best friend at the time, Donovan Goodreau, admitting on tape that Lyle confessed to him that his father was abusing him and Erik after Donovan had opened up to him about his own abuse. Lyle also told his cousin Diane when he was 8, she testified in court to that. Andy, another cousin of the brothers, was told by Erik when they were kids, too. And that doesn't even touch the actual corroborating evidence of the abuse and child molestation like the CP photos they found of the boys. Also, I am pretty sure you meant "spoiled", not soiled.
Don't forget the Oscar night back in 2022 when Will Smith's wife was mocked not by the host per se, but by the script provided by the academy writers, resulting in Smith slapping Chris Rock. The Oscar's night continued as if nothing had happened. How about that? Hollywood is a mockery. I guess that's why Mr. Menendez fitted perfectly well in the industry.
The pain in his whole face when they asked him about his brother. You can tell he hated himself for doing that to the one person he loved unconditionally 😢 he was just a kid replicating what had been done to him! That kind of expression and body language cannot be "acted". He felt that question in his soul. I just finished the series and not even the actors could portray all the feelings these two demonstrated during their trials.
If Erik is having a full blown panic attack while his brother is talking in 5:27 after he said “touching me” and people think they’re lying someone needs to check on that cause I have panic attacks like that too
The judge is a Zionist monster, no doubt he was excited further abusing the boys. He also oversaw the acquittal of some of the cops in the Rodney King beating, these are just high profile cases, who knows what else that freak did. Tells you a lot about our legal system and the racketeers running it.
These boys have gone through hell. They are victims. Yet they were punished for the crimes their parents committed upon them. The justice system has been unforgivably unfair! They need to be set free immediately. No more wasted years!!!
This is traumatizing, specially because he never spoke about it , this was probably his first time talking about it in front of people specifically in a court room
All the emotion and psychological pain that you can feel on the room .. CAUSE OF THE EVIL FATHER.. And still they end it up On jail for being abused … UNBELIEVABLE
This is so hard to watch.. I feel the pain.. this can’t be faked.. this is real and the people that judged them are evil for not giving them the freedom they needed.. wow… so sad…
There is another young boy that was represented by Jose Menendez company that has now come forward and said he was drugged and molested by Jose as well. These boys should be released.
It’s all a cycle. I’m sure the dad was abused. Does that give him the right to abuse. You can see the brother abused his bother. Does he have the right to do that cause he was abused. Do they have the right to murder cause they were abused?
It’s unbearable to listen to Lyle’s and Erik’s testimony. It’s unbearable to know this happened and they were forced to relieve every detail. These boys endured h3ll and had to tell the public… how unjust! The jurors that ended up punishing these victims… they were soulless! They never should have been charged… they needed health care and help!!!!
@isabellalockwood5858 there in prison because back then people think these things could only happen to women. they had so many evidence that this was true even a singer who was only 14 years old said that Jose did the same thing to him when he was working with his band.
If this happened today and someone said “did you wanna do this” it would immediately be thrown out! What a disgusting thing to even ask when he wasn’t even capable of knowing what consent even meant.
They are grilling him. I can feel how hard this is for him to relive. I really hope they’re both doing better now and getting a lot of therapy to deal with the immense trauma they went through. This can’t be faked
I can’t help but cry with him.. Shame on anyone who thinks he’s lying!!! I’m a victim myself and I know exactly what he’s feeling! I’m sick to my stomach bawling my eyes out right now !
Watching this gave ME trauma. This is deep! Wish there is something I can do. I so want them freed so they can live out the rest of their lives free and happy.
I can’t believe it’s 2024 and they still aren’t freed. I’ve been hearing about it for years on horror channels and it just never made sense? What’s wrong with people?!
imagine being in his position talking about how their parents abused and r@ped them. Must felt so uncomfortable and embarrassing for them . I feel so bad they should have their freedom.
If my child came to me and told me that their father was touching them inappropriately, I would be out of there with my children so freakin' fast and on the phone with a divorce lawyer - sad that both parents were so effed up - neither one of these boys had a chance.
For her to ask if he wanted to do sexual acts as a child is sickening. The justice system is definitely corrupt at times at least 50/50. I always thought they were wrongly incriminated.
This infuriates me. SNL did skits about this testimony. Lyle was mocked and repeatedly called a liar over and over again. Let's just call a spade a spade. There are times when his testimony veers off into what might be embellishment. Most of the time there is NO DOUBT he is telling the truth! His face turned beet red. You cannot physically force that to happen. He and his brother endured this unspeakable pain and trauma by a controlling and abusive man and a disinterested and probably medicated and drunk woman who was more interested in keeping her man than keeping her kids safe. I've met women like her so I know they exist. The worst part is that if Jose Menendez had done the same thing to a neighborhood kid and been caught he would have been demonized by the media and put away for many years. But it was HIS kids so it was OK to rape them. They murdered their parents and that has never been in question. They've served over 30 years in prison. It's time to let actual justice prevail and release them. They are not now and have never been a danger to public safety. They are not now and have never been violent criminals. A hung jury in both cases demonstrated reasonable doubt so the judge changed the rules to get the result his boss wanted. I'm sorry. It's called the justice system why?! FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS!!!!
! I’ve been crying every day watching these testimonies. I was in America as a student at San Diego when the boys were tried and convicted (presently live in Mumbai). They were demonized at the time- portrayed as two rich brats that killed their parents in cold blood. But when I had watched them on tv, at the time, I didn’t feel that way- I felt that there was something really wrong here. They looked innocent to me. And now as I watch the case revived in the media, and all the Shorts and TH-cam reels, I relive my youth, as I watch how they lost theirs to the rigged justice system of the time. Free these men, asap. America is looking like a country as archaic and unjust as any so-called backward nation!
When you were crying did a tear run down your face at any point? Because not a single tear was visible during this video. Can anyone explain how someone can cry this long and not generate a single visible tear?
No one does anything without reason. I believe the two siblings have suffered from this madness since they were young, and I hope they have the chance to live outside.🙁
@@hayriirdal6237there's always a reason. Even with psychopaths they do it cause they enjoy hurting others. These guys were SA'd anyone who has been seggually abused as a child can recognize themselves in them.
@@hayriirdal6237 Well, maybe that's the case... but no one would be willing to sacrifice themselves for those things unless it was the end. Because in the end, everything must come to an end. In an unexpected way
I had an abusive father. He was an alcoholic and he was aggressive towards my mother. He used to take me shopping and I could see him steal things. He slapped me once, just ONCE and I go to therapy because I have complex PTSD and depression and every time I go I cry my eyes out just like him. I can’t imagine what my state of mind would be if something like THIS would have happened to me and one of my sisters and I had to say it out loud to so many people. I mean the shame, the confusion, the betrayal of the only people who are supposed to protect you, the identity loss and many other complex emotions. Either I am truly a fool or this man is telling the truth.
There is no way someone could fake something like this and make it look this believable! They are telling the truth and need to be set free. Im so sorry. I know just the feeling. My dad is an alcoholic, he doesn't physically hurt us but the amount of times he's screamed at us, gaslit, and manipulated us is too many to count. Our abuse is valid too. He hit me once and I never recovered. These poor men need to be free. They were humiliated in that court, being forced to relive their trauma over and over- Forced to endure the humiliation. Their innocence was stripped from them at early ages and they just got fed up. I would've done the same thing in their situation. The Justice system completely failed these two and it's horrifying.
Jury for the other trial were deadlocked. They couldn't decide on manslaughter or murder. It wasn't until the next trial where they didn't allow testimony of sexual abuse that they were found guilty. Massive miscarriage of justice imo. Vile.
this is so fucking heartbreaking to watch you can 100% see how embarrassing and how hard it is to talk about for them. you can’t fake behavior like this. they need to be free already. complete self defense! 😭💔
@@3llyss3 Morally speaking, yes. I'm just saying legally, absolutely not. Because the parents were unarmed, watching TV in their living room. The boys lives were not in any immediate danger. I've always been one of the few to question the abuse claims, I felt like the boys were self involved, spoiled rich boys who panicked when their domineering dad threatened to take them out of the will, and were acting on the stand. I'm not saying it definitely didn't happen, I just have doubts. I believe their Dad was domineering, and belittling, but there was a lot of testimony that makes me doubt the S/A, and makes be believe the boys were the ones out of control. BUT, I do believe 100% that their second trial was unfair. That judge was totally biased and made it impossible for them to not be convicted of premeditated murder. He withheld all the testimony of abuse that could've helped them AND took the manslaughter option off the table which is absolutely insane. So, I do think that they should be given a new trial regardless of what anyone thinks. They weren't given a fair shot at the second trial, so I hope that happens one day and I believe it will.
I was 5 years old when this happened in 1989. I remember seeing their faces plastered on the national Enquirer and how the media made these two boys into a joke. I always thought THEY were the monsters. But it's becoming clear to me that the parents were the monsters. Obviously two wrongs don't make a right but if this trial happened today, I believe there would have been a very different outcome. After watching this testimony, I believe these boys were abused. The moment at 7:38 when Lyle is asked about what he's done to his brother....oh my god. The look on his face. It's pure devastation, heartbreak, embarrassment and sadness all rolled into one.
If this is all true, (which it genuinely feels like), these people are deeply traumatized. They deserve justice. I can't understand how this took this many years! They were robbed of their lives and happiness.
It took so many years because the trial footage wasn't widely available. CourtTV released it on their TH-cam channel in 2021. It hasn't been that long. Since the 90's media has no power of the narrative anymore, many people started to see this case for what it was. Then, the new evidence surfaced. The case has been gaining traction ever since and people were (rightfully) outraged, so they started to cause awareness. Netflix's (highly inaccurate, but still) show just boosted the attention even more.
This was obviously so embarrassing for him to admit, because, as in many, many sexual victims, he thinks it his fault. No wonder he asked his brother not to disclose any of this before the trial. Look at his face, his tears, he can hardly testify. he is even admitting molesting his own brother, because that's what he learned from his own abuser. Now that there's another victim, I hope he and his brother's cases are going to be revisited and give them the freedom they deserve.
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@@anadesantiago3015 I hope he's forgiven himself because that's what Erik wanted
@@anadesantiago3015 absolutely agree...
His body and facial language says it all! He is NOT lying. He’s trying his hardest to keep it together. The flushing of the face. This wasn’t an act for sympathy. Jesus, set these boys free ❤️
Thank you!!!
Anyone who believes that this could be faked is just completely out of their mind. This is real pain. Bless these boys. I hope and pray they get out and can finally have a chance at a normal life.
Thank you! 100%
@@sabrinashelton1997 I've been praying for them since watching the series
So the father took their youth, and the court system took everything left. Insanely unfair!
Agree.
And they separated them for two decades
childhood spent in metaphoric prison, adulthood spent in literal prison.
I can’t even begin to explain how much sadness this case brings me. They were robbed of their childhood and adulthood. They deserve so much better. 💔
My hearts broken . Sweet Lyle can’t even get his words out. So painful it’s the whimpering in between . U can see how painful it is. That is not an act I don’t care what anyone says that is pure pain
@@Hellerp completely heart wrenching. And to think the outcome would have been so different if it happened in this generation. I would not be able to live with myself if I was one of those jurors. Failed by their parents and also the justice system. I can’t even look at a photo of them from recent without crying 😭
Disgusted how they weren’t believed. This is raw and real trauma . Horrific
@@Hellerp Me Too era snapped America out of its Puritan sexual naïveté.
Hell yes it is!!! Thank you!
I dont understand how someone can see this and still think its fake
Wasnt there tapes where he himself Said that it was an ”oscars preformence”?
@@gustavbolin1554source?
@@gustavbolin1554 that was just from the netflix show lol
@@gustavbolin1554so what? Couldn’t that be a joke to lighten the mood after a horrific ordeal of having to relive the trauma in the public eye?
@@libbozine32 Why did they put in that if it wasnt true at all? Sureley they have listened to the tapes?
That people said/say this was all fake is insane. The way he’s struggling to contain his crying and making as little sound as possible while tears stream down his face - that’s the opposite of fake crying
What doesnt make me to buy anyhting its cuz theres a lot of times where it feels they want to laugh.I dont believe them.
@@DD-ry4mmwhen...I mean timestamp?
The same way he was "crying" when he called the police and said that the mafia had killed his parents? While the other brother were screaming and also fake crying too in the background?
@@DD-ry4mmlaughing is a stress response from the body that happens to individuals who’ve under gone trauma and PTSD
@@Serhildan000THAT was fake crying
This boy sounds extremely honest. There is NO way anyone could make up that kind of emotional reaction. The fact that he wrote about not wanting to talk about their family's past says how BAD it was. And with the most recent allegations of the one boy from Menudo when he was only 14... Their father was sick, and their mother too... They were so honest and good that in order to throw them in jail that the judge and the prosecution decided not to accept the worse part of their testimony, the SEXUAL ABUSE on the second trial... Talk about an UNFAIR trial..!
First abused by Parents, then the Court system.
These boys were tortured their entire lives!
Family knew & did nothing.
The Judge in the case was criminal in his bias!
They have paid for killing their Parents.
The Parents were monsters!!
Release these Men.
These boys are shattered. The father is repulsive. The mother is abominable. Let the boys go free. They’ve suffered enough!
You base this off of what? A show on Netflix?
Not single tear was visible during this entire clip. Can you explain that?
@@openyourmind8889 3:47 you can clearly see tears rolling down his cheek to his chin
@@openyourmind8889 Maybe you shouldn't watch the video in 240p.
@@openyourmind8889u disgust me
@@openyourmind8889yes there was?? and even if there wasn’t, it would be because he’s trying to keep it together.. just maybe.. 🙀🙀
The Judge is an accomplice for all the other children not being believed - not allowing all this evidence in the retrial.
Right. I can not believe that happened how is that not the most important part
it’s so disappointing
@madebyaubrey it literally explains the motive 😔 they didn't care about justice in this case only making good tv. The judge should be arrested
A judge will always will your biggest disappointment, unless you know him personally. Previous still can make a call too
Thanks to Lyle and Erik, there is one less dirty molester and one less disgusting Enabler in the world. Good for them! Instead of being imprisoned, they should be given a medal of Honor. The USA "Justice System" is horrifying that they would keep these men in there for 30 years for this. You get abused and molested for your entire childhood, it explodes all over the Abusers, and now you get jailed on top of that. Sickening.
They’ve paid their “debt to society” ten times over. Let them go.
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There was no debt in the first place.Their parents were evil. They should have been given a medal. The father was going into politics as a US senator. He was a sick Predator.
To the ppl who say these brothers are acting, 🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽 you.
There's no amount of acting lessons that can compare to the angst and heartbreak these poor men went thru. Thank God these brothers have each other.. 😢 🙏🏽
What an evil pedophile father and a crazy mother. These boys were completely alone. What a torture. Pray for justice!!!
Happens in more honesty than you are aware.
You gotta remember that Lyle never told anybody other than his mother. then to come and reenact what happened to him as a young child to the whole court and to the world for the first time ever. Trying so hard to keep it together. You can’t make this shit up!! My heart goes out to these boys. May they be set free.
The anguish and pain all over his face is something you could never fake
how can u harm a child let alone your own child this is sick sick behavior.
Seriously it’s gruesome
Free them !!! They were tortured since they were 6/7 yo. And as if not enough, they spent their whole lives in prison. They deserve better.
“he raped me”💔😞 3:54 you can truly see the pain in his face and hear it in his voice. this is real, traumatizing, and painful. they need to be free asap
Fr also it's not easy for men today to share that they were abused sexually, imagine in the 90's
It really hurts their pride and they don't talk about it today! I can't believe people think they could make this all up while they were in jail
😢😢😢. If he is faking he deserves an academy award !!!!! You can tell he is very uncomfortable talking about the abuse he suffered!!! IF YOU watch the whole trial they had family members uncles and aunts and cousins that suspected abuse ... He even told a cousin who testified that he knew about the abuse..... I believe them!! It's insane that they are still in prison!!!
I don't know why the lawyer asks "did you wanna do this?" A child of that age cannot consent. That is statutory rape exists.
@@MissJensk1 you people have no idea what’s going on here. that wasn’t a lawyer, it was lyle’s own defense attorney.
@@bingbong8775What was the name of his defence attorney?
It’s to help prove their case. In law you have to be super specific with how you support your argument. If she didn’t make it explicitly clear that he didn’t want to be apart of that, then the prosecution could use that hole in the defenses argument to rebuttal and say “well he wasn’t opposed to it, therefore he couldn’t have felt threatened because to feel threatened you have to not want it.” Winning a court case is extremely technical.
@@canwegetmuchhigher729 jill lansing
@@canwegetmuchhigher729jill lansing was lyle’s defense attorney, and leslie abramson was erik’s defense attorney
Free them now. It's been 35 years.
I agree, they should be free!!! They don’t deserve to be locked up because THEY are the victims, not their ‘parents’, better known as monsters.
There are still thousands of children who have to endure this on a daily basis. God, please help them
@@lostinthelight God isn’t coming - God lives in US. WE need to Help them.
When she asks if he wanted to do it he just shakes his head because he can’t speak, this is not a man faking emotion, this is a man overcome with emotion
I 100% believe them both.
me too. i believe the sexual abuse really happened. it’s heart breaking
i agree with you
They are innocent 😢
You are a nobody whose opinion doesnt matter ! I BeLIeVe tHem ! Huh
I honestly believe them, nobody kills their parents like that for no reason. That was a rage, hurt and fed up murder
That’s true.
Thank you!!!!! 💯💯💯💯💯
I cant even manage listening to 9 minutes of this. Could you imagine this being the reality you were born into?!?! Having to deal with this nearly everyday?! Free them!
The trauma is heart breaking. How could these boys be imprisoned. A reflection of our cruel justice.
No it’s not. They only started saying they were “assaulted” after they got caught.they were soiled brats who didn’t get what they wanted so they killed their parents. They deserve life in prison!
@@MissesSniffles That is factually not true. They told several people about the abuse long before the killings took place. We have Lyle's best friend at the time, Donovan Goodreau, admitting on tape that Lyle confessed to him that his father was abusing him and Erik after Donovan had opened up to him about his own abuse. Lyle also told his cousin Diane when he was 8, she testified in court to that. Andy, another cousin of the brothers, was told by Erik when they were kids, too. And that doesn't even touch the actual corroborating evidence of the abuse and child molestation like the CP photos they found of the boys.
Also, I am pretty sure you meant "spoiled", not soiled.
@@MissesSniffles And who did the spoiling? They are a reflection of their parents.
And you deserve a father like Mr. Menendez.
So if Erik is having a full blown panic attack, when his brother is testifying, his brother is crying how is that fake explain
Listening to this testimony is physically painful, I can't imagine how painful it is LIVING through this experience.
Where are the tears? Can anyone explain that?
@@openyourmind8889 where is your humanity? can anyone explain that?
I can't believe Saturday Night Live did a skit mocking Lyle and Erik's crying.
Even if they didn't believe them, making fun of child SA is a level of low no one should ever sink to.
Don't forget the Oscar night back in 2022 when Will Smith's wife was mocked not by the host per se, but by the script provided by the academy writers, resulting in Smith slapping Chris Rock. The Oscar's night continued as if nothing had happened. How about that? Hollywood is a mockery. I guess that's why Mr. Menendez fitted perfectly well in the industry.
@@fabianalmendros9895?
The judge needs to be investigated and held to account for preventing the use of SA evidence. There is no faking this sort of trauma.
I don’t think that the judge on this case is still going around.
The pain in his whole face when they asked him about his brother. You can tell he hated himself for doing that to the one person he loved unconditionally 😢 he was just a kid replicating what had been done to him! That kind of expression and body language cannot be "acted". He felt that question in his soul. I just finished the series and not even the actors could portray all the feelings these two demonstrated during their trials.
@@marileportasdelreal8881 I hope they've been able to process it together in therapy... 2 decades overdue 🤬
If Erik is having a full blown panic attack while his brother is talking in 5:27 after he said “touching me” and people think they’re lying someone needs to check on that cause I have panic attacks like that too
The judge is a Zionist monster, no doubt he was excited further abusing the boys. He also oversaw the acquittal of some of the cops in the Rodney King beating, these are just high profile cases, who knows what else that freak did. Tells you a lot about our legal system and the racketeers running it.
what a miserable life man, having both your childhood and adulthood taken from you..
These boys have gone through hell. They are victims. Yet they were punished for the crimes their parents committed upon them. The justice system has been unforgivably unfair! They need to be set free immediately. No more wasted years!!!
Absolutely heartbreaking and engaging. These two should not be in jail.
omg your here
To all the people who say they’re faking it: they’ve discovered another victim of their pedo father.
They're faking it
The abuse was all made up to avoid the death sentence
@@GavinWoolford-ld9lyhis father raped a young boy from menudo.
@@GavinWoolford-ld9lythen why were their allegations that the boys from menudo were SA by their father??
At that time all of the media ignored ALL of these facts, all they focused on was how affluent they were. 33 yrs later they’re finally being heard. 😢
These men should be out of prison. These parents were monsters.
This is traumatizing, specially because he never spoke about it , this was probably his first time talking about it in front of people specifically in a court room
Yep.
@@ClintsessentialsARE YOU KIDDING? LESLIE AND THE BEST REPUTATION/ NARRATIVE SPINNER IN HOLLYWOOD COACHED THEM FOR HOURS.
@@jlorde8838 And you know this because you were there, or what ?
They’ve served their time. Free these guys already.
All the emotion and psychological pain that you can feel on the room .. CAUSE OF THE EVIL FATHER.. And still they end it up On jail for being abused … UNBELIEVABLE
This is so hard to watch.. I feel the pain.. this can’t be faked.. this is real and the people that judged them are evil for not giving them the freedom they needed.. wow… so sad…
It can be faked. Iam not sure about this one
The fact they have been locked up for so long after escaping a vile predator is SICK. The justice system is so screwed..
Right or wrong, the action was still taken and they did kill someone. They might need to be rehabilitated to get back into society?
@@helloyou9533still unfair
The fact they got a longer sentence then their dad ever would have
@@Izust4r-s5lThat's the most bitter fact.
There is another young boy that was represented by Jose Menendez company that has now come forward and said he was drugged and molested by Jose as well. These boys should be released.
They should be freed immediately. They are the victims.
What are the proof or evidences?
@@danielsocorroramirez9729 all the photos and testimony from several people.
@@danielsocorroramirez9729medical evidence was shown ...you loser
It’s all a cycle. I’m sure the dad was abused. Does that give him the right to abuse. You can see the brother abused his bother. Does he have the right to do that cause he was abused. Do they have the right to murder cause they were abused?
@@ryanrobertson7218 the netflix show was a test to show us how sheeple (the viewers) can be easily brainwashed by programming.
It’s unbearable to listen to Lyle’s and Erik’s testimony. It’s unbearable to know this happened and they were forced to relieve every detail. These boys endured h3ll and had to tell the public… how unjust! The jurors that ended up punishing these victims… they were soulless! They never should have been charged… they needed health care and help!!!!
They’re not very believable. Crying without tears isn’t a good look.
@@chrisstevens-xq2vb they are quite literally crying with tears? this camera is literally worse than an iPhone 2 camera what do you expect
@@chrisstevens-xq2vb are you stupid?
Release the brothers and put ozil in jail.boys were 100% truthfull in the trail.
this is so horrible, they were abused and abused until they could no longer take it! poor babies
that still doesn't justify murder, which is why they're in prison.
@@isabellalockwood5858it does tho doesn’t it
@isabellalockwood5858 there in prison because back then people think these things could only happen to women. they had so many evidence that this was true even a singer who was only 14 years old said that Jose did the same thing to him when he was working with his band.
What????
@@isabellalockwood5858yes it does you pedo
This is so heart breaking 😢😢😢am just shaken by this..i feel traumatized.
How on god's earth could they put these men through this and then lock them up.
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If this happened today and someone said “did you wanna do this” it would immediately be thrown out! What a disgusting thing to even ask when he wasn’t even capable of knowing what consent even meant.
Oh God, his reaction when she asks: 'Did you do something to your brother?" (07:29). Just heartbreaking what they went through.
Jesus please save these boys.
It's self-defense.
The judge belongs in prison.
😂
They are grilling him. I can feel how hard this is for him to relive. I really hope they’re both doing better now and getting a lot of therapy to deal with the immense trauma they went through. This can’t be faked
The abuse was real 100%
It turns my stomach! Their pain is real, so much heartache, shame, etc. I pray they will get help in overcoming the horrible memories.
Why the fuck are they still in prison. This isn’t right. Far worse people get lighter sentences or even get to walk free!!!
The fact that Lyle had been through so much, yet talked to his dad when the dad was doing something to Eric and said to leave Eric alone, is so sad.
Jurors should be ashamed of themselves
The male jurors in the first case, yes. The jurors in the 2nd trial didn’t get to see any of the sexual abuse evidence.
There were probably real life pdfiles on the jury that's why there was no justice
I can’t help but cry with him.. Shame on anyone who thinks he’s lying!!!
I’m a victim myself and I know exactly what he’s feeling! I’m sick to my stomach bawling my eyes out right now !
Show proof you are crying attention seeker
@@lakjaxGod is judging the heartless and the cruel, so watch out.
@@jesusisgod4992 SHUT UP
They are so clearly telling the truth.
Is that sarcasm
@@Kaleighboo98no lol
Watching this gave ME trauma. This is deep! Wish there is something I can do. I so want them freed so they can live out the rest of their lives free and happy.
I can’t believe it’s 2024 and they still aren’t freed. I’ve been hearing about it for years on horror channels and it just never made sense? What’s wrong with people?!
imagine being in his position talking about how their parents abused and r@ped them. Must felt so uncomfortable and embarrassing for them . I feel so bad they should have their freedom.
If my child came to me and told me that their father was touching them inappropriately, I would be out of there with my children so freakin' fast and on the phone with a divorce lawyer - sad that both parents were so effed up - neither one of these boys had a chance.
There's tons of evidence they were abused. Come on
So painful to watch this poor guy have to relieved all this awful memories with someone that was supposed to loved and nurtured him!
For her to ask if he wanted to do sexual acts as a child is sickening. The justice system is definitely corrupt at times at least 50/50. I always thought they were wrongly incriminated.
This infuriates me. SNL did skits about this testimony. Lyle was mocked and repeatedly called a liar over and over again. Let's just call a spade a spade. There are times when his testimony veers off into what might be embellishment. Most of the time there is NO DOUBT he is telling the truth! His face turned beet red. You cannot physically force that to happen. He and his brother endured this unspeakable pain and trauma by a controlling and abusive man and a disinterested and probably medicated and drunk woman who was more interested in keeping her man than keeping her kids safe. I've met women like her so I know they exist.
The worst part is that if Jose Menendez had done the same thing to a neighborhood kid and been caught he would have been demonized by the media and put away for many years. But it was HIS kids so it was OK to rape them.
They murdered their parents and that has never been in question. They've served over 30 years in prison. It's time to let actual justice prevail and release them. They are not now and have never been a danger to public safety. They are not now and have never been violent criminals. A hung jury in both cases demonstrated reasonable doubt so the judge changed the rules to get the result his boss wanted. I'm sorry. It's called the justice system why?!
FREE THE MENENDEZ BROTHERS!!!!
Makes me so mad how they are spending time in prison for years but yet they were in pure horror and trauma I mean it’s seriously unspeakable.
I pray the new evidence is enough to get them freed
His crying breaks my heart.
Crying without a single visible tear. Amazing!
@@openyourmind8889 At 3:40 you can see one 😂
your comment dosent do anything.
@@openyourmind8889you're just blind.
You can tell he isnt making this up
Please free them.....they don't deserve to be punished.
! I’ve been crying every day watching these testimonies. I was in America as a student at San Diego when the boys were tried and convicted (presently live in Mumbai). They were demonized at the time- portrayed as two rich brats that killed their parents in cold blood. But when I had watched them on tv, at the time, I didn’t feel that way- I felt that there was something really wrong here. They looked innocent to me. And now as I watch the case revived in the media, and all the Shorts and TH-cam reels, I relive my youth, as I watch how they lost theirs to the rigged justice system of the time. Free these men, asap. America is looking like a country as archaic and unjust as any so-called backward nation!
When you were crying did a tear run down your face at any point?
Because not a single tear was visible during this video. Can anyone explain how someone can cry this long and not generate a single visible tear?
Thank you for this comment!
@@openyourmind8889are you fucking blind?
If Erik is having a panic attack while Lyle is talking then hows this not obvious
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No one does anything without reason. I believe the two siblings have suffered from this madness since they were young, and I hope they have the chance to live outside.🙁
You will be shocked to see how many people do things for no reason at all.
@@hayriirdal6237there's always a reason. Even with psychopaths they do it cause they enjoy hurting others. These guys were SA'd anyone who has been seggually abused as a child can recognize themselves in them.
@@hayriirdal6237 Well, maybe that's the case... but no one would be willing to sacrifice themselves for those things unless it was the end. Because in the end, everything must come to an end. In an unexpected way
As someone with a similar situation, I believe these two.
I hope you’re ok 😞 whatever happened to you wasn’t your fault 🤍
I had an abusive father. He was an alcoholic and he was aggressive towards my mother. He used to take me shopping and I could see him steal things. He slapped me once, just ONCE and I go to therapy because I have complex PTSD and depression and every time I go I cry my eyes out just like him. I can’t imagine what my state of mind would be if something like THIS would have happened to me and one of my sisters and I had to say it out loud to so many people. I mean the shame, the confusion, the betrayal of the only people who are supposed to protect you, the identity loss and many other complex emotions. Either I am truly a fool or this man is telling the truth.
There is no way someone could fake something like this and make it look this believable! They are telling the truth and need to be set free. Im so sorry. I know just the feeling. My dad is an alcoholic, he doesn't physically hurt us but the amount of times he's screamed at us, gaslit, and manipulated us is too many to count. Our abuse is valid too. He hit me once and I never recovered. These poor men need to be free. They were humiliated in that court, being forced to relive their trauma over and over- Forced to endure the humiliation. Their innocence was stripped from them at early ages and they just got fed up. I would've done the same thing in their situation. The Justice system completely failed these two and it's horrifying.
Show proof attention seeker
I’m sorry you had to go through that, but did you blow your dad’s brains out?
Notice how he put his hand up (0:35) it legit shows how he feels embarrassed/sad of the conversation I feel so sad for them oml my heart is aching
what an unreal 10 minutes in a courtroom. and what an unreal case. spoiled, manipulative who cares. these guys never had a chance anyway. free them.
Some of these comments make me sick to my stomach. I pray to God you and/or your loved ones are never in a similar situation.
I wonder why the jurors didn’t believe them. Two trials and they still got found guilty. They should have got manslaughter charges. 😮
Jury for the other trial were deadlocked. They couldn't decide on manslaughter or murder.
It wasn't until the next trial where they didn't allow testimony of sexual abuse that they were found guilty. Massive miscarriage of justice imo. Vile.
This breaks my heart. No child should go through this
I cried watching this as so did many others. Love and Peace to these brothers
this is so fucking heartbreaking to watch you can 100% see how embarrassing and how hard it is to talk about for them. you can’t fake behavior like this. they need to be free already. complete self defense! 😭💔
U are a sicko these guys are monsters they belong there
His parents were sitting on the couch watching TV when they were blown to bits. That's not self defense... Not legally speaking.
@@jillybean9563after years of abuse u don’t consider that self defense?
@@3llyss3in court. you can't
@@3llyss3 Morally speaking, yes. I'm just saying legally, absolutely not. Because the parents were unarmed, watching TV in their living room. The boys lives were not in any immediate danger. I've always been one of the few to question the abuse claims, I felt like the boys were self involved, spoiled rich boys who panicked when their domineering dad threatened to take them out of the will, and were acting on the stand. I'm not saying it definitely didn't happen, I just have doubts. I believe their Dad was domineering, and belittling, but there was a lot of testimony that makes me doubt the S/A, and makes be believe the boys were the ones out of control. BUT, I do believe 100% that their second trial was unfair. That judge was totally biased and made it impossible for them to not be convicted of premeditated murder. He withheld all the testimony of abuse that could've helped them AND took the manslaughter option off the table which is absolutely insane. So, I do think that they should be given a new trial regardless of what anyone thinks. They weren't given a fair shot at the second trial, so I hope that happens one day and I believe it will.
Set them free
They been through enough ❤
These poor traumatized boys. What a nightmare for them.
People really thought/think this was made up on the spot?!!
As a woman and a survivor,I can say that if they were women, they would be free.
Oh really? Gender changes the law now? lol
It’s simply the 80s!
There was 0 awareness about SA
Chrystul Kizer, Pieper Lewis, Cyntoia Brown.
I was 5 years old when this happened in 1989. I remember seeing their faces plastered on the national Enquirer and how the media made these two boys into a joke. I always thought THEY were the monsters. But it's becoming clear to me that the parents were the monsters. Obviously two wrongs don't make a right but if this trial happened today, I believe there would have been a very different outcome.
After watching this testimony, I believe these boys were abused. The moment at 7:38 when Lyle is asked about what he's done to his brother....oh my god. The look on his face. It's pure devastation, heartbreak, embarrassment and sadness all rolled into one.
This is so heartbreaking...their lives were ruined 😢
I am very good at reading people. This is pure trauma and truth. So horrible
I would seriously be so disgusted. The fact that their own parents did this was disturbing. 😢😢
If this is all true, (which it genuinely feels like), these people are deeply traumatized. They deserve justice. I can't understand how this took this many years! They were robbed of their lives and happiness.
It took so many years because the trial footage wasn't widely available. CourtTV released it on their TH-cam channel in 2021. It hasn't been that long. Since the 90's media has no power of the narrative anymore, many people started to see this case for what it was. Then, the new evidence surfaced. The case has been gaining traction ever since and people were (rightfully) outraged, so they started to cause awareness. Netflix's (highly inaccurate, but still) show just boosted the attention even more.