EXACTLY LIKE ITS DISGUSTING LIKE YES YOU FIND HIM ATTRACTIVE OK COOL BUT HES LITERALLY SUFFERING IN A JAIL CELL FOR SELF DEFENSE AND MENTALLY STRUGGLING WITH HIS TRAUMAS
How cruel life can be for some people. A lifetime of abuse, and then the rest of what’s left of that life spent in prison. Wrong on so many levels. Surely this case must be reopened
Sadly the truth of many crime cases, people grow up in extremely unfortunate circumstances, choose to commit some actions you can never go back from, and then land life in prison. But society doesn’t care what the reason is, they only care about what you did and that sole action becomes the sole trait of your character
It enrages me how they hurried him to answer. If you’ve ever been abused you know the pain that comes when words like that coming out of your mouth it’s so painful. The vain pop, you can tell he has so much anger towards them. I feel for them. The confusion they lived, the shame. They themselves thinking they were gay because of what was done to them, the confusion, I can’t imagine.
It's traumatic for me to watch their testimonies, so I can't even imagine how it felt and how traumatising it was to live through all that horrible horrible tortuous part of their life... In addition to this, it makes me furious that they are still in jail. They were victims themselves. Yes, killing a human being is never OK, but to imprison 2 victimised men when they probably need very serious psychological support and treatment/therapy. That just proves that judicial system is broken, not working they way it should.... 🤦🤦🏻♂️🤦🏿♀️
It angered me how they tried to rush him i wanted to punch whoever was forcing him to hurry u can even see the pain in his eyes hear the emotion it’s something very traumatic to answer and it takes some time to
They kept this in for decades and to finally get a chance to say it out loud what they had experieced all those terrible years was extremely traumatic and emotional. I have no pity for the parents, the father was a monster and the mother an enabler, she admitted to one of the boys after an incident that had him in tears that she knew exactly what was going on, thats why she was not spared, she knew and did nothing!
i’m so sick of people judging them and blaming them for killing their parents despite knowing about the abuse they suffered from when all they ever wanted was freedom
They weren't 8, 9 or 11 y.o when they commited those crimes, they were around 18 and 21. They weren't poor, they had all the opportunities in terms of getting psychological/psychiatric help, in terms of getting a good lawyer to go against their father, in terms of seeking for professional help unlike poor people who depend on the public system (that you know it has never been good). They had higher education, so they both had more tools to find a way to take revenge legally. They decided to go the criminal way, they understood the criminality of their actions, they bought weapons two days prior to the killings, and during that time they didn't stop, but they continued pursuing their criminal act. Once they killed their parents they started to live a luxurious life, spending a lot of money in luxury items, showing no remorse at all... So, to me this goes beyond resentment, this was mostly criminal behavior and perhaps psychopath minds working together. It's heartbreaking to see them try to talk about S.A, but those sad expressions should be taken with a grain of salt, not forgetting their situations and privileges prior to the killings they decided to commit... Anyways, people can easily fall for a pretty face and an athletic body in tears, and this seem to be one of those cases. I think they both got what they deserved.
1:26 The way she mockingly said that… made my blood boil. Just the humanity in her. There were none. These prosecutors needs to put humanity over their careers. The jury chose to help the abusers rather than the victims.
They weren't 8, 9 or 11 y.o when they commited those crimes, they were around 18 and 21. They weren't poor, they had all the opportunities in terms of getting psychological/psychiatric help, in terms of getting a good lawyer to go against their father, in terms of seeking for professional help unlike poor people who depend on the public system (that you know it has never been good). They had higher education, so they both had more tools to find a way to take revenge legally. They decided to go the criminal way, they understood the criminality of their actions, they bought weapons two days prior to the killings, and during that time they didn't stop, but they continued pursuing their criminal act. Once they killed their parents they started to live a luxurious life, spending a lot of money in luxury items, showing no remorse at all... So, to me this goes beyond resentment, this was mostly criminal behavior and perhaps psychopath minds working together. It's heartbreaking to see them try to talk about S.A, but those sad expressions should be taken with a grain of salt, not forgetting their situations and privileges prior to the killings they decided to commit... Anyways, people can easily fall for a pretty face and an athletic body in tears, and this seem to be one of those cases. I think they both got what they deserved when it comes to the sentence. They killed the person they blame for S.A. so that's another case, and the person they killed was not able to defend himself (you don't know if those S.A stories are real)... They called the cops in tears after watching a Batman movie... People judge the jury, but they know much better than you why they gave that sentence. You weren't there, you're just watching two pretty boys crying and that's the only thing you have to judge them. Ridiculous
I doubt they were sain enough to think about getting a lawyer Why would they show remorse for their rapists? Any one would become a psychopath if those were their "parents" So what if they had alot of money?no amount of money can justifie rape,they werent acting spoiled. By your logic, its your fault if you get raped if you can defend yourselves.
This case needs to be reopened. The way that they even forced them to say everything when they clearly were uncomfortable about talking about the sexual abuse.
@@mel_icka but the way they we’re forcing Erik to answer the questions while crying was so rude she should’ve let him take his time. You can tell he seemed uncomfortable with talking about the abuse.
@@crxz___1938 I know, in other videos u can see she learns from that. I think if u watch the videos from the perspective of knowing she was his lawyer and was trying their best to help him. She had to get every detail clearly from them so the jury don’t say they’re being manipulative so she tended to ask quick questions so they don’t have time to lie or make up a memory but yeah that particular question I think she shouldve waited. But at learning they actually became close because she was really trying to help it made it less cringe for me
They killed a monster. You can see the deep pain when they describe the cruel situations. I don't understand why the trial needs details when it's obviously heartbreaking for them to mention it.
The fact he told his cousin when they were ten makes me believe their story. The cousin is a very successful man and could lose everything for lying for them. It doesn't make sense, especially as they weren't close the older the brothers got. It just shows that they didn't fabricate this story to kill their parents for their money. Imo that is.
Jackie Powell ok well they lived the luxurious life style. So in that case I highly disagree. It’s not right they killed their parents but still very sad and traumatic what there parents put them through at such young ages.
Sexual child abuse is more common in all family demographics than anyone ever wants to admit. I have so many friends who have admitted to me that they were sexually abused as children or even teenagers, usually either by a family member or someone close to the family. And they've usually never told anyone in the family about what happened to them, but it still effects them to this day. And I can't blame them because I vividly remember a very good friend of mine in middle school finally telling another friend in our group that her father raped her, which was why she never wanted any of us to stay over at her house. She was always asking to come stay with any of us for the weekend and now I know why. Our friend then told her parents, and it all came out from there. My friend's parents were both arrested because her mom knew about it, and then she had to basically go into hiding because her father's family was claiming she was a liar and that her father would never do that to her and were literally threatening to come hurt her. A thirteen year old girl and their own family member. I saw all this happening myself so it's not something I was just told about. I feel for the Menendez brothers and anyone else who was abused so horrifically by people they should have been able to trust and never felt like they could tell anyone.
I agree; it is extremely common and every close relationship i've had they speak of childhood sexual abuse. My 3 longer term relationships with men each spoke of childhood sexual abuse. I am sure it's embarassing to mention and fear tactics are usually used to keep them quiet which is why it's not often reported. People acting like this is unusual is what's suprising.
You can see the look on the brothers face when they said they touched each other. Those kids were molded into whatever they are now. I don't have a lot of knowledge on the case but I wonder what age this started. The father and the mother sealed their own fates with how they treated those kids.
tbh I only know this case from a TH-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
What was the mother doing? It really boils my blood when one parent hides another parent’s bad deed for selfish reasons.Such parents who abuse their children should be publicly humiliated
@@tinni.e_xx4399 Stfu you sound like the type of person to question a sexual abuse victim. Everyone them accountable for what they did, you are no expert in psychology to identify a real and non real victim.
i’m so sorry for these boys. one of the closest people in my life at one point was sexually abused by their father and the anger i have will never dissipate. this is pure emotion from victims. this is not acting. i can feel the same trauma radiating off of them.
As soon as the mother did nothing to help or protect them when the father started with the abuse and molested them, *she became a part of that abuse* so please stop saying she did nothing wrong. She was as bad as the father!
@@masumamiah101 I know right?! People are just like *ignoring* the fact that she knew all along and let it be like that. *She was as disgusting and evil as him.*
In those type of cases i would say the one thats not a sick fuck (the mother) to do nothing about it is even worse than the one thats fucked up in the head (the father) who probably dont think hes doing nothing wrong
what the hell is wrong with you guys? First of all their is no real evidence that they were actually abused. Second of all even if they were they should not have killed their parents they could have called the police. These guys are cold blooded killers and it’s disgusting you guys will defend them
@@aced8121 listen Zack, I have done my research about this case! If you would’ve done some research, you would know that they were really scared of their father. They claim that their father has threatened to kill them if they’d try to run away from home again. Their mother knew about the abuse,she didn’t do anything about it! Even judges who were with them in court, said that there was no possible way they were acting like they were abused, they looked petrified and actually traumatized...so please do your research and don’t go and assume that they’re just psychos that killed their parents;))
These brothers are either the best actors in the world or this is genuine emotion. I believe they genuinely were so upset with what happened to them that they stopped it the only way they could be sure it would never happen again. These guys should not be in prison for moment.
Ppl who kill their abuser SHOULD NOT be guilty. That’s just not right 1/18/21 Edit: For all the ppl that are saying "but that's not right", "that should not be a reason to kill sm1" etc. He would've got killed in prison anyways or if not killed, tortured. So it really wouldn't matter anyways if they have just gone to the police.
Parents are supposed to take care of their children and teach them, protect them, etc. Their parents never did any of these things except giving them a nice house to live in. A nice house or nice life is not worth what they went through inside the house. Disgusting and they got exactly what they deserved
I can't imagine how embarrassing and traumatic it probably was to describe how your father sexually assaulted you in front of courtroom. That's so heartbreaking. I hope they both heal.
@Katherine Rain How would she be just as guilty tho? Maybe morally since she should have stopped it but she didn't (to my knowledge) abuse or harm the boys right?
@Katherine Rain that is not what I meant. Under the law maybe what the father did could be used against to reopen the case but what about the mother? She didn't abuse their kids physically, regardless of innocence she didn't do what the father did. But obviously I agree with what you are saying, but it doesn't justify their actions under the law then.
The judge, the prosecutor, and everyone in that courtroom need to be held accountable! You failed these young men! You are the ones that should be in prison 😡
Exactly my view. That judge should never get a good night's sleep after his criminal behavior in refusing to allow ANY evidence of abuse, sexual too, against the brothers. Even Jose Menendez' mother supported the boys over their evil father.
I remember seeing only a couple of times over the last 30+ years, in documentaries, that Jose got mad at the family dog, killed it, and put it's head in the refrigerator for all to see. That is demented. I wonder why it's been largely ignored.
They were abused. Their mom knew about it and turned an eye to keep her lifestyle. They did what they thought was their only way to escape. Very sad story.
Please, please, please link the proof of what your accusing. I've read comment after comment and the threads, yet not ONE person who alluded to any kind of proof that she had ANY knowledge or guilt whatsoever. In NO way am I trying to be rude or sarcastic. I am simply frustrated and stunned by so many eluding that their Mother was somehow at fault, like she deserved to be killed. IF there is links you could post backing up these claims then I will happily educate myself. However, without the evidence to back such HORRIFIC claims, are you truly okay with Victim Blaming? As I said before, I don't want to be rude, belittle, or become part of the problem of assuming....I simply am asking you to educate my obvious ignorance as to why these claims are acceptable.
If the dad really do what he did he deserved every bit of it. And if the mom knew what was happening and didn’t stop the father and protect her kids then she’s worse then the dad himself. Truly sickening story. So sad
Very sad indeed. But why could the brothers not have gone to the police or talk to a social worker or their teacher at school or something? There are other resources besides killing in cold blood. However I think their parents drove the two of them temporarily insane which perhaps accounts for their actions. Just an educated guess.
if they were ugly, unattractive kids then you wouldn't believe them the fact that they are attractive and well spoken make them very easy to sympathize with
They didn't "fight back." They murdered their parents in cold blood. An abusive childhood is not an excuse for murder. They were both more or less adults when they committed the murders. There's just no excuse. It's terrible what they went through, of course it is. I don't deny that-I don't think anyone does. But past abuses does not mean that you get a pass to murder others. It just doesn't. It's evil in return for evil, that's all. Revenge is never a solution.
Mozambitch Exactly! Beverly Hills is where everything bad happens. It’s the devil’s playground. Who would have guessed though. Anyway, you didn’t hear it from me. Jolly well! 🥂🍺 Cheers and beers mates!
What that lady at the end says is absolutely sickening. They'd said in an interview at the time their mother knew. She told Erik she'd known their entire lives. How in God's name can you have sympathy for either of those monsters?
tbh I only know this case from a TH-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
@@Chloe-jj6mh i dont think that's true. they were victims of sexual assault and i am not saying its an excuse to kill anyone or whatever but I feel so bad for them. this case should be reopened and the boys should have been sent to a psychiatrist not jail.
Their fucking parents should’ve rot in hell . These boys needs justice they shouldn’t be in jail they need justice this boils my blood and shattered my heart hearing everything 🥺
Ikr. I would rather be poor than to be in that horrible situation. It is so painful to kill your parents that way... but it was more painful to have them as parents.
@@juburr9750 It’s a possibility, but he could have used self defense differently and could have injured them but they took it to far and now bc of that mistake they are now in prison
I guess it means that they would expect something like that to come from the Midwest, but not Beverly Hills. Time has confirmed what we already knew. All those Hollywood sickos who live in Beverly Hills and morally grandstand over all of America are worst than the Midwest.
@@brooklyn2812 I think that because the trauma they had w their parent they weren’t able to see another way to get out of there. If someone abused me I would also want to kill them, everyone had their own way of relief pain (I would kill myself maybe, but yea)
@@brooklyn2812 Think about this, yes killing their parents was not right, but you have no idea what their father could've held over them if they threatened to leave or tell someone, obviously their father had to keep them very close in case they did say something, obviously murder wasn't the right choice, but that was physical and mental torture. you cannot just leave and expect yourself to forget about it.
By definition it wasn’t self defense. It should’ve been reported to the police. I know it’s terrible and horrendous what their parents did to them but gunning them down was not the answer and should not be treated as the correct course of action. They were 17 at the time, they could’ve went to the police but they chose to murder them instead
@@stormnegele463 no one is saying what they did was the correct course of action it’s just that the punishment may be excessive given the circumstances
tbh I only know this case from a TH-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
@@Chloe-jj6mh same!! i'm honestly so confused about this case. i watched stephanie's video and i kinda got the impression that it was basically just the brothers being spoiled kids, but now i keep hearing people talk about how they were abused and/or sexually abused (which is something stephanie mentioned, but said was just an allegation w/ no evidence). maybe I'm biased bc i watch a lot of her videos, but i'm leaning more towards what she said bc it just doesn't make sense to me why (if it was self-defense) they left to get more ammo and came back to shoot their parents more or why they would go on a shopping spree afterwards.
@@ghostly6007 Omg same!!! After I posted the comment I didn’t know if I was being insensitive or something but reading your comment made me feel better thx :)
I live only like 2 minutes away from where this happened. I once visited the house. Game me some chills knowing that the schools I went to all my life we're close to where this happened.
This literally tore my heart ,like you can see the real pain on their faces...Their parents deserved that.. and I think every abusing parents should be punished like that.. Thank God I'm living somewhere where no one can't even imagine of such things ..
tbh I only know this case from a TH-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
@@julietmota9205 woman, I think you got it wrong. Their father is the one who has money and will kill them if they report to a police or what. They want the abuse to be exposed, what their parents did to them, they all want it to be exposed but his father who has the money will kill them
@@ravenyouritielsens9744 do you have any proof of that or are you just speculating because you don’t believe male survivors or sexual assault? like they said at the start, if one kid kills their parents that’s a bad seed, if two kids kill their parents that’s a bad family. they’d been acting out for years which is incredibly common for survivors of abuse, there has to be a reason for it. i’m not justifying their actions, but i think it’s important to understand their thought process
karrriney Right? It happens all the freaking time. I think its even more gross that it was a father touching his own sons. Molesting HIS own sons. Gay, incestual. Creepy.
When they poured their hearts out and openes up it was a hung jury not a life setence. We don't have video of what happens in the second trial, was probably a diffrent defense. They said Lyle didn't even take the stand.
who asked for the opinion of the last lady? what they did to their mother is evil? what she did is evil lady! she failed to protect them despite knowing the abuse was going on the house. if she were innocent or " too weak to act" at least she would have tried to comfort them as a mother. instead she didn't.
exactly! people beliving they killed mom for money is BS. there are a lot of moms in this world who turn blind eyes when her husbands abuse her kids. tolerate his action just to keep him or his money
GermanMartin MB I have no idea if it's true or not obviously I've done no research plus no one will really ever know the truth, but suppose it was real? You sound like you're actually the one whom is 10 just by telling someone to shut up about something they believe in, really immature kid.
I’m glad that these brothers were brave enough to stand up against their parents and the systems that didn’t protect them. Sometimes this is the only way to stop true evil.
Ikr, she's got her heart in the right place. People can call them bimbos, but their dad was a very brilliant lawyer and he's obviously passed that on to the kids.
@Merch www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/05/07/kim-kardashian-is-funding-legal-team-that-has-freed-inmates/ since you're just going to say some uninformed cocky comment. Here you go
as someone who has been molested, i can tell that they weren’t lying on the stand about anything they said. i could see all the same emotions i feel on their faces
I’m a mental health nurse and after readying their documentary and all of that, for me it was so obvious that they’re emotions were real and deep... I guarantee that they were saying the truth. The interviewer was so judgemental and fucked to be honest!! She should get fired :|
I will never forgive them for saying that their parents abused them. Isn't that what usually happens when you don't want to go to jail . Nothing stopped them from walking out and getting jobs.
@@stova9118 ware do you think it stated first? You think that it's okay for your father to abuse you and your mom not giving a DAMN the parents got off easy in my opinion.
@theotomeobsession yes, killing someone can never be justified, but, may i remind you theres something called suicide, and its something that happens after the abuse is too much, death can also be an escape from the living hell they go through... abuse leads to the said suicide, the last line that u said, death should never happen in the hands of someone else confused me, its like saying its ok to commit suicide after enduring the hell
@theotomeobsession The moment you create a child, you damn them to inevitable death. Why is that acceptable if this is not? I'll support the abused sons, not their disgusting, selfish parents.
why would you ever feel bad for the parents after what they did? anyone who does anything like that to their children deserve anything that happens to them
Never believed that story. One was 18 and the older one was in his early 20's or older so why did they live with the parents if they were being molested. They were of age to live on their own yet continued living there. They were out living it up taking vacations buying cars they did not seemed so traumatized then
@@theamcdcshow4426 none they are lucky that they are still a live. It would be better if they get the same as their parents. They could tell someone but htey didn't they killed their parents
Respect??? Really??? That's a strange word to use for this situation, they murdered their parents. Why not just get the hell out, why wait all those years without saying anything? Oh right, they wouldn't have inherited all that money.
@@barbkearns3296 not that easy u idiot if you’re are young kid getting sexually abused,u don’t understand what that is at a young age so how are they supposed to just get out it’s not that easy
@@barbkearns3296 does it hurt being that dumb? you don't know anything about abuse. it's not easy to just "get out". also, the dad literally said he'd kill them if they told anyone. educate yourself
Even if they're proven innocent or whatever, no amount of consolidation or compensation can account for all that trauma and that disgusting mis treatment from the courts
i’m here from that one tiktok “but mama i’m in love with a criminal “ and i know it’s very wrong they shouldn’t be sexualized and it’s horrible i was just implying that i was here from a tiktok and i’m sorry if it came out the wrong way. they are traumatized human beings pls get help if u sexualized them. THEY ARE VICTIMS AND SHOULDNT BE SEXUALIZED!! they are murders i know but they are also victims
Its disgusting that their father got away with that for so many years and nothing was done. They should be sent to a psych ward for therapy not jail. They were sexually abused and emotionally and physically broken. Just sad
We know the justice most of the time act in favor to the disgusting father. We can not believe how the justice act in favor to the abuser man. The justice in everywherere act like garbage. How the justice sent to the prision even they know how the children suffer from they were very little children. Many time the justice are just garbage.
Yes there parents weren’t innocent but they could have handled it another way, if it was self defense they would have harmed or injured them then maybe they would have let it slide but they don’t and the straight up killed them and if they handled it a different way their parents would have life sentence and would be charged and the boys could have had therapy or some kind of help but to me that was not the way to go
Victims that if they claim “self-defense” then they could’ve told the police that, not go on a damn shopping spree that made them look like they killed them for money
@@abbysykes6673 I do, I know people who have been, there’s other ways to deal with it, things that help people escape, and it would’ve been different if it was when they were being abused they killed them, they they snuck up behind them with shotguns, that’s not self defense, self defense is when someone is trying to kill or severely injure you and you shoot and kill them, like a car jacking or home invasion, but it wasn’t they deliberately snuck up behind them, and like I said, they chose to be idiots and blow all that money they got, which is something that is VERY useful for prosecutors to use to convict, and it makes them think that was their motive, they could’ve done some things differently to avoid prison but they did what they did and have nobody to blame but themselves, and I hate how everyone says it was “self defense” and they were “victims” any other situation and it wouldn’t be said
This case hurts my soul. Because I myself was molested as a kid. Adopted into a family with new parents, new siblings. I thought I really had a good chance at a better life then I would have had I been put in foster care. I was sexually abused by my "sisters and brothers" I was the youngest of them all. I wondered why they all would do these things to me. I thought it was normal because so many siblings did to me... I felt so much shame and sadness. There were times I went to my parents and they wouldn't believe me, but I know they knew. Sometimes they would see how we were around each other... I was so uncomfortable with my family by time I was a teen because I think them doing all they did to me made me do stupid things when I was young, thinking it was okay and normal for kids... Teens anyone to do. Gave my virginity away like it didn't matter.. Failed relationships and being taken advantage of time and time again. I wish so bad my parents would have believed me and stopped it. I wish would have told teachers or someone. I still feel sickended to this day because I feel as if it was all my fault. They took it out on me when they were happy or sad. They always hated me for getting everything I wanted. I feel so sorry for these two. You can never really come back from all that. I know I still haven't
everyone is talking about how attractive they are for some reason but can we talk about the trauma they went through? Like this is so sad
Ikr...I feel very bad for them
Literally like i started crying soo hard hearing how Erik was molested from the age of 6 to 18! like that is soo morbid
EXACTLY LIKE ITS DISGUSTING LIKE YES YOU FIND HIM ATTRACTIVE OK COOL BUT HES LITERALLY SUFFERING IN A JAIL CELL FOR SELF DEFENSE AND MENTALLY STRUGGLING WITH HIS TRAUMAS
They killed people so they die to
@@idontevenhaveapla7224 they aren’t a serial killer...
"People assume that when you have money, you have no problems" This.
One problem people who have money have is that most money is earned, not given away.
Mo money mo problems
MrJuvefrank that made no sense
im need to have them problems
Money can help you solve some problems. But it's not the end all of everything
How cruel life can be for some people. A lifetime of abuse, and then the rest of what’s left of that life spent in prison. Wrong on so many levels. Surely this case must be reopened
if the rape victims would have been 2 young sisters they'd be out by now.
Sadly the truth of many crime cases, people grow up in extremely unfortunate circumstances, choose to commit some actions you can never go back from, and then land life in prison. But society doesn’t care what the reason is, they only care about what you did and that sole action becomes the sole trait of your character
Born into a lifetime curse - and had to share it with the public
@@kajaaki8422 It is only the people judging them ! Whether it is America or any other country the morons will always have authority
@@haintedhouse2990 untrue
It enrages me how they hurried him to answer. If you’ve ever been abused you know the pain that comes when words like that coming out of your mouth it’s so painful. The vain pop, you can tell he has so much anger towards them. I feel for them. The confusion they lived, the shame. They themselves thinking they were gay because of what was done to them, the confusion, I can’t imagine.
That’s why the male dispatcher took over, that female dispatcher was probably new
It's traumatic for me to watch their testimonies, so I can't even imagine how it felt and how traumatising it was to live through all that horrible horrible tortuous part of their life...
In addition to this, it makes me furious that they are still in jail. They were victims themselves. Yes, killing a human being is never OK, but to imprison 2 victimised men when they probably need very serious psychological support and treatment/therapy.
That just proves that judicial system is broken, not working they way it should.... 🤦🤦🏻♂️🤦🏿♀️
Agree started crying when I heard Erik trying to hold his tears in
It angered me how they tried to rush him i wanted to punch whoever was forcing him to hurry u can even see the pain in his eyes hear the emotion it’s something very traumatic to answer and it takes some time to
They kept this in for decades and to finally get a chance to say it out loud what they had experieced all those terrible years was extremely traumatic and emotional. I have no pity for the parents, the father was a monster and the mother an enabler, she admitted to one of the boys after an incident that had him in tears that she knew exactly what was going on, thats why she was not spared, she knew and did nothing!
That lady judge was so rude. The guy could barely breath when he’s trying to answer , and she’s rushing him like wtf give him a second lady!
I think it's a technique. He will react differently depending if his acting or not.
Exactly what a son of a bitch!
Ya mistaken that was the prosecutor. The guy speakin was the judge
1-Last -Chance X how was she at the time on the spot to know if he was acting or not? That’s why she was rushing him
Because the judicial system is paid off by the elites . It's all an organization. They are demon filled .
How weird and cruel does a parent have to be to sexually assault their child
It happens more than you think.
I heard that the father was also sexually abused by his mom but nevertheless what the father did was unacceptable.
Moses Devadass literally the most emotional and disgusting thing ive heard when he started to confess the molestation
Moses Devadass a lot of parents do it it’s not a surprise
Moses Devadass she’s sick in the head too
i’m so sick of people judging them and blaming them for killing their parents despite knowing about the abuse they suffered from when all they ever wanted was freedom
People are just hypocrites
They weren't 8, 9 or 11 y.o when they commited those crimes, they were around 18 and 21. They weren't poor, they had all the opportunities in terms of getting psychological/psychiatric help, in terms of getting a good lawyer to go against their father, in terms of seeking for professional help unlike poor people who depend on the public system (that you know it has never been good). They had higher education, so they both had more tools to find a way to take revenge legally.
They decided to go the criminal way, they understood the criminality of their actions, they bought weapons two days prior to the killings, and during that time they didn't stop, but they continued pursuing their criminal act. Once they killed their parents they started to live a luxurious life, spending a lot of money in luxury items, showing no remorse at all... So, to me this goes beyond resentment, this was mostly criminal behavior and perhaps psychopath minds working together.
It's heartbreaking to see them try to talk about S.A, but those sad expressions should be taken with a grain of salt, not forgetting their situations and privileges prior to the killings they decided to commit... Anyways, people can easily fall for a pretty face and an athletic body in tears, and this seem to be one of those cases.
I think they both got what they deserved.
But that doesnt give us the right to pick up a gun abrutally slain our parents
Will you listen to yourself? A man sexually assaults his two kids and yet your saying this?
@@paultyson459 that’s where I disagree
1:26
The way she mockingly said that… made my blood boil. Just the humanity in her. There were none. These prosecutors needs to put humanity over their careers. The jury chose to help the abusers rather than the victims.
She's a gated community puppet, listen to the way she talks too. She's getting paid handsomely to paint these boys as monsters, shes a pig
They weren't 8, 9 or 11 y.o when they commited those crimes, they were around 18 and 21. They weren't poor, they had all the opportunities in terms of getting psychological/psychiatric help, in terms of getting a good lawyer to go against their father, in terms of seeking for professional help unlike poor people who depend on the public system (that you know it has never been good). They had higher education, so they both had more tools to find a way to take revenge legally.
They decided to go the criminal way, they understood the criminality of their actions, they bought weapons two days prior to the killings, and during that time they didn't stop, but they continued pursuing their criminal act. Once they killed their parents they started to live a luxurious life, spending a lot of money in luxury items, showing no remorse at all... So, to me this goes beyond resentment, this was mostly criminal behavior and perhaps psychopath minds working together.
It's heartbreaking to see them try to talk about S.A, but those sad expressions should be taken with a grain of salt, not forgetting their situations and privileges prior to the killings they decided to commit... Anyways, people can easily fall for a pretty face and an athletic body in tears, and this seem to be one of those cases.
I think they both got what they deserved when it comes to the sentence.
They killed the person they blame for S.A. so that's another case, and the person they killed was not able to defend himself (you don't know if those S.A stories are real)... They called the cops in tears after watching a Batman movie... People judge the jury, but they know much better than you why they gave that sentence. You weren't there, you're just watching two pretty boys crying and that's the only thing you have to judge them. Ridiculous
@@plexoniolopez996 their parents deserved to get murdered 🤷♀️
I doubt they were sain enough to think about getting a lawyer
Why would they show remorse for their rapists? Any one would become a psychopath if those were their "parents"
So what if they had alot of money?no amount of money can justifie rape,they werent acting spoiled.
By your logic, its your fault if you get raped if you can defend yourselves.
@@plexoniolopez996 this makes me see the case much differently
News : they ruined a picture perfect family
Kids : abused
Sexually abused too, disgusting.
Ikr
It’s disgusting fr
Picture perfect family means that they look perfect from the outside
It does not always mean that they are perfect behind closed doors
literally
This case needs to be reopened. The way that they even forced them to say everything when they clearly were uncomfortable about talking about the sexual abuse.
That lady was his own lawyer and was helping them
@@mel_icka but the way they we’re forcing Erik to answer the questions while crying was so rude she should’ve let him take his time. You can tell he seemed uncomfortable with talking about the abuse.
@@crxz___1938 I know, in other videos u can see she learns from that. I think if u watch the videos from the perspective of knowing she was his lawyer and was trying their best to help him. She had to get every detail clearly from them so the jury don’t say they’re being manipulative so she tended to ask quick questions so they don’t have time to lie or make up a memory but yeah that particular question I think she shouldve waited. But at learning they actually became close because she was really trying to help it made it less cringe for me
Did the brothers pass polygraph?
They had to.
They killed a monster. You can see the deep pain when they describe the cruel situations. I don't understand why the trial needs details when it's obviously heartbreaking for them to mention it.
Even with the testimony they still went to prison forever I believe they are still there
@@kellietaylor9913 it is so fkin stupid... Maybe the judge is a fkin predator too.
🤡
The fact he told his cousin when they were ten makes me believe their story. The cousin is a very successful man and could lose everything for lying for them. It doesn't make sense, especially as they weren't close the older the brothers got. It just shows that they didn't fabricate this story to kill their parents for their money. Imo that is.
Nah what they did to their parents was horrible but not evil. What their parents did to those boys WAS evil.
Micah Fairview but they abused them why would they do that it’s just messed up
@@claire1391 ahh so youre suggesting that they "had" to kill them then?
Micah Fairview it’s ok to take the life of evil people
@@micahfairview9463 no what they did to the parents wasn't bad enough
Serena Frausto I watched this whole thing and I don’t think the dad abused them. They were two greedy little bastards!
they definitely didn’t do it for the money they were already rich
First Last if you are a kid and you’re parents are rich u are basically rich
First Last bur they’re living this rich lifestyle too??!
You fed your husband to tigers , that fucking bitch Carole baskin
Not true they wanted it all now!
Jackie Powell ok well they lived the luxurious life style. So in that case I highly disagree. It’s not right they killed their parents but still very sad and traumatic what there parents put them through at such young ages.
The fact that he had to admit it infront of every one it's heartbreaking and they are making them the villain when they clearly are the victims
Sexual child abuse is more common in all family demographics than anyone ever wants to admit. I have so many friends who have admitted to me that they were sexually abused as children or even teenagers, usually either by a family member or someone close to the family. And they've usually never told anyone in the family about what happened to them, but it still effects them to this day. And I can't blame them because I vividly remember a very good friend of mine in middle school finally telling another friend in our group that her father raped her, which was why she never wanted any of us to stay over at her house. She was always asking to come stay with any of us for the weekend and now I know why. Our friend then told her parents, and it all came out from there. My friend's parents were both arrested because her mom knew about it, and then she had to basically go into hiding because her father's family was claiming she was a liar and that her father would never do that to her and were literally threatening to come hurt her. A thirteen year old girl and their own family member. I saw all this happening myself so it's not something I was just told about. I feel for the Menendez brothers and anyone else who was abused so horrifically by people they should have been able to trust and never felt like they could tell anyone.
I agree; it is extremely common and every close relationship i've had they speak of childhood sexual abuse. My 3 longer term relationships with men each spoke of childhood sexual abuse. I am sure it's embarassing to mention and fear tactics are usually used to keep them quiet which is why it's not often reported. People acting like this is unusual is what's suprising.
This girl you are describing was incredibly brave I know I am going to g through something similar myself. God bless her and you
It’s so annoying how these people have more sympathy for the evil parents than the abused kids
You can see the look on the brothers face when they said they touched each other. Those kids were molded into whatever they are now. I don't have a lot of knowledge on the case but I wonder what age this started. The father and the mother sealed their own fates with how they treated those kids.
The court heared the evidence and decided otherwise!!! Hmmmmm????????
They're all on in it...
tbh I only know this case from a TH-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
@@caroljones5334 because it doesn't matter, they still killed two people
this case needs to re-opened
Agreed
I totally agree with you
Re opened? They were tried for murder. They were found guilty of the murder that they committed. How can it be re opened?
why, they killed and got time🤨
Agreed
What was the mother doing? It really boils my blood when one parent hides another parent’s bad deed for selfish reasons.Such parents who abuse their children should be publicly humiliated
The mother was abusing her oldest son Lyle too
She abused Lyle. She raped him
They’re not lying. That is fully unscripted, genuine pain flowing out of their faces.
Yeah right
they plan this for years
till one was 18 adn one was 21 so they could get the money
Ima just say one thing. Had this been two girls rather than two men, their trial would've gone a lot differently.
I dont know if you are right but they didn't deserve life In prison. They dont deserve prison time at all by my opinion.
This is facts. Also if their dad wasn’t a Hollywood director or whatever it would’ve been differently. U know hellywood is evil.
Lots of girls are in jail for killer there rapist
@@darabarrack4112 True
@@darabarrack4112 that is true That lady Cynthia forgot her last name
i’m on the brothers side on this one . their dad was horrible and they didn’t want to live like that anymore.
Exactly I agree too
@@user-wb1vm9ex4k they were teens not adults unless you consider teens adults.
@@tinni.e_xx4399 dude it’s obvious
@@user-wb1vm9ex4k their dad still abused them when they were 18
@@tinni.e_xx4399 Stfu you sound like the type of person to question a sexual abuse victim. Everyone them accountable for what they did, you are no expert in psychology to identify a real and non real victim.
sometimes we refuse to see how bad something is until it completely destroys us.
i’m so sorry for these boys. one of the closest people in my life at one point was sexually abused by their father and the anger i have will never dissipate. this is pure emotion from victims. this is not acting. i can feel the same trauma radiating off of them.
As soon as the mother did nothing to help or protect them when the father started with the abuse and molested them, *she became a part of that abuse* so please stop saying she did nothing wrong. She was as bad as the father!
Nae' Thank you !! I’m sick of people saying she was innocent. She is just as evil
@@masumamiah101 I know right?! People are just like *ignoring* the fact that she knew all along and let it be like that. *She was as disgusting and evil as him.*
In those type of cases i would say the one thats not a sick fuck (the mother) to do nothing about it is even worse than the one thats fucked up in the head (the father) who probably dont think hes doing nothing wrong
Thank you for saying this
yes
the dad made them really think that abusing was a normal way of playing. that’s disgusting.
what the hell is wrong with you guys? First of all their is no real evidence that they were actually abused. Second of all even if they were they should not have killed their parents they could have called the police. These guys are cold blooded killers and it’s disgusting you guys will defend them
@@aced8121 listen Zack, I have done my research about this case! If you would’ve done some research, you would know that they were really scared of their father. They claim that their father has threatened to kill them if they’d try to run away from home again. Their mother knew about the abuse,she didn’t do anything about it! Even judges who were with them in court, said that there was no possible way they were acting like they were abused, they looked petrified and actually traumatized...so please do your research and don’t go and assume that they’re just psychos that killed their parents;))
@@aced8121 people like u gross me out
@@aced8121 you are disgusting defending their parents. What their dad did to them is beyond disgusting!
@@aced8121 if police actually helped, there wouldn’t be this many unheard sexual assault victims out there
These brothers are either the best actors in the world or this is genuine emotion. I believe they genuinely were so upset with what happened to them that they stopped it the only way they could be sure it would never happen again. These guys should not be in prison for moment.
The father also raped other young boys
there’s no way they’re faking that, the pain in their eyes is real
Why havn't netflix made a series about this already?!
Because we already hv that in csi , law & order etc
Lifetime did
lifetime made it years ago. i meant to watch it but never did so idk how well it was interpreted.
other shows already did
Pozeidon YOU CANT MAKE A SERIES ABOUT *ONE* MURDER
Ppl who kill their abuser SHOULD NOT be guilty. That’s just not right
1/18/21 Edit: For all the ppl that are saying "but that's not right", "that should not be a reason to kill sm1" etc. He would've got killed in prison anyways or if not killed, tortured. So it really wouldn't matter anyways if they have just gone to the police.
#freekai
No man in the sky intervened when junior was a boy to deliver him from Alexander Luthor sr fists and abominations
Personal Info i get it death is a whole other level pero sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do
Cassandra Rodríguez ehhhh maybe
Personal Info but not for life! The father abused them. Maybe they should’ve been in jail for 10-15 years but not life
I have zero sympathy for pedophiles or rapist they all deserve the death penalty
I've noticed that abuse can make you do things that you'd never even think of and make you act like a totally different person
I forgive any kid that kills their parents for being sexually abused like that. My heart pours out to them
John James yeah someone else commented it around here
Is it 100% he abused them??
@@andrewhoyle1521 is it 100% they killed them ite then
Bruh of you think them killing him will solve their problem .. Then get some help !
Kaou Ther it made the sexual abuse stop didnt it ?
I never believed they did it for money. I 100% believe they were abused.
Really....why kill mom then.....
@@jordanfan88 oh and would you let her get all inheritance instead of you after she did all that or to be more precise she didn't do.
@@InteN66 what?...if they were victims....why kill mom...she's didn't do anything to them. Only they and the dead parents know what really happend.
@@jordanfan88 Not saying any thing they say it's true but if it's true read again my first reply I explained it enough there.
They literally went on a spending spree give me a break
Parents are supposed to take care of their children and teach them, protect them, etc. Their parents never did any of these things except giving them a nice house to live in. A nice house or nice life is not worth what they went through inside the house. Disgusting and they got exactly what they deserved
Free these men, they were abused children who stood up to evil. They need a medal not a prison sentence.
I can't imagine how embarrassing and traumatic it probably was to describe how your father sexually assaulted you in front of courtroom. That's so heartbreaking. I hope they both heal.
What about the mother
@Katherine Rain How would she be just as guilty tho? Maybe morally since she should have stopped it but she didn't (to my knowledge) abuse or harm the boys right?
@Katherine Rain that is not what I meant. Under the law maybe what the father did could be used against to reopen the case but what about the mother? She didn't abuse their kids physically, regardless of innocence she didn't do what the father did. But obviously I agree with what you are saying, but it doesn't justify their actions under the law then.
@@ghog4792 the mother let it happen, that is just as bad as doing it
@@RoryMeldrum I understand that, morally we all agree, but under the law that doesn't justify their actions.
They were sexually abused and seeing so many people sexualize them is so upsetting:(
THANK YOU!! EXACTLY ITS SO DISGUSTING
exactly:((
they are all “he can murder this 😽” like no.
@Yoshi IKR
@S J it has nothing to do with gender. People have always sexualised abuse victims.
The judge, the prosecutor, and everyone in that courtroom need to be held accountable! You failed these young men! You are the ones that should be in prison 😡
Exactly my view. That judge should never get a good night's sleep after his criminal behavior in refusing to allow ANY evidence of abuse, sexual too, against the brothers. Even Jose Menendez' mother supported the boys over their evil father.
I remember seeing only a couple of times over the last 30+ years, in documentaries, that Jose got mad at the family dog, killed it, and put it's head in the refrigerator for all to see. That is demented. I wonder why it's been largely ignored.
They were abused. Their mom knew about it and turned an eye to keep her lifestyle. They did what they thought was their only way to escape. Very sad story.
Linda B Proof?
@@adriaunaa5745 That's what I did, I ran away at 16 and told someone which got me a lot of help, I didn't have to kill anyone.
Adriauna DNM they deserved it
Adriauna DNM too late now 😂
Please, please, please link the proof of what your accusing. I've read comment after comment and the threads, yet not ONE person who alluded to any kind of proof that she had ANY knowledge or guilt whatsoever. In NO way am I trying to be rude or sarcastic. I am simply frustrated and stunned by so many eluding that their Mother was somehow at fault, like she deserved to be killed. IF there is links you could post backing up these claims then I will happily educate myself. However, without the evidence to back such HORRIFIC claims, are you truly okay with Victim Blaming? As I said before, I don't want to be rude, belittle, or become part of the problem of assuming....I simply am asking you to educate my obvious ignorance as to why these claims are acceptable.
Stop saying the mother is innocent she wasn’t
How do you know?
Shang Tsung lots of videos about it and proof
yes
Agreed
Ya she was they weren’t molested
all kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids.
If the dad really do what he did he deserved every bit of it. And if the mom knew what was happening and didn’t stop the father and protect her kids then she’s worse then the dad himself. Truly sickening story. So sad
Very sad indeed. But why could the brothers not have gone to the police or talk to a social worker or their teacher at school or something? There are other resources besides killing in cold blood. However I think their parents drove the two of them temporarily insane which perhaps accounts for their actions. Just an educated guess.
@@rose-mariechauret7358 They both deserved to die for what they've done to their own offspring.
Parents : tortures kids
Kids : fights back
Court : *wait that's illegal*
if they were ugly, unattractive kids then you wouldn't believe them
the fact that they are attractive and well spoken make them very easy to sympathize with
@@synecdoche8783 i truthfully think the well spoken part is the only true part abt this statement
They didn't "fight back." They murdered their parents in cold blood. An abusive childhood is not an excuse for murder. They were both more or less adults when they committed the murders. There's just no excuse. It's terrible what they went through, of course it is. I don't deny that-I don't think anyone does. But past abuses does not mean that you get a pass to murder others. It just doesn't. It's evil in return for evil, that's all. Revenge is never a solution.
You don’t understand, they killed their parents.
John Morley yea they do.
"its not supposed to happen in beverly hills". give me a break.
What's so special about Beverly Hills lmao
Mozambitch Exactly! Beverly Hills is where everything bad happens. It’s the devil’s playground. Who would have guessed though. Anyway, you didn’t hear it from me. Jolly well! 🥂🍺 Cheers and beers mates!
Ikr 😂😂😂😂 not supposed to happen at all
It’s not suppose to happen anywhere tbh...
I know 😂
It’s crazy how much the oldest has changed prison really has taken a toll on him when it shouldn’t have no reason to even be in jail
What that lady at the end says is absolutely sickening. They'd said in an interview at the time their mother knew. She told Erik she'd known their entire lives. How in God's name can you have sympathy for either of those monsters?
This case NEEDS to be reopened. They were victims their parents are the definition of evil.Some parents dont deserve kids tbh
tbh I only know this case from a TH-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
Ikr
Exactly
@@Chloe-jj6mh i dont think that's true. they were victims of sexual assault and i am not saying its an excuse to kill anyone or whatever but I feel so bad for them. this case should be reopened and the boys should have been sent to a psychiatrist not jail.
I have been saying that for years. they would never get a life sentence these days
They don’t deserve their sentence but father deserved that early grave.
Their fucking parents should’ve rot in hell . These boys needs justice they shouldn’t be in jail they need justice this boils my blood and shattered my heart hearing everything 🥺
They do deserve their sentence. That doesn’t make murder okay it’s still wrong (:
@@ginapena2 they deserve a sentence, not necessarily the one they got.
@@ginapena2 Abuse = Character murder, Innocence murder, they are equal in my eyes. Legalism has made your views on this sort of things askew.
How do yall even know they actually got abusrd
When parents abuses their own kids, that scar is permanent... 😭😭😢
Made me cry. I feel so bad now. Praying for their healing and i hope they will be set free
they weren’t spoiled rich kids, they were victims.
Yes, but I think they could have handled it better than killing their parents
Ikr. I would rather be poor than to be in that horrible situation. It is so painful to kill your parents that way... but it was more painful to have them as parents.
@@tinamon136 true
@@zxykell how? I think no one would of believed them.
@@juburr9750 It’s a possibility, but he could have used self defense differently and could have injured them but they took it to far and now bc of that mistake they are now in prison
The lady said “not supposed to happen in beverly hills” oh wow... not supposed to happen anywhere crazy lady
I guess it means that they would expect something like that to come from the Midwest, but not Beverly Hills. Time has confirmed what we already knew. All those Hollywood sickos who live in Beverly Hills and morally grandstand over all of America are worst than the Midwest.
True words 🙌
Fr
Ikr 😂
I bet there are a lot of kids especially in hollywood who would consider these 2 guys courageous and heroes to them.
They were too young to defend themselves from the abuse, from the unfair judgement. How can ones let this verdict happen, shameful!
Really sad.Imagine the people who are supposed to protect their kids the most end up abusing them the most.
*it was a murder, but not a crime.*
edit: when you just wanted to bring some love to a musical 🥲🤛
what
Murder is a felony stupid
It didn’t come across how you thought it will be. 😂
She’s quoting Chicago
all i have to say about this comment it yes. just yes.
They shouldn’t be in prison they were just protecting themself from their dad
They could of left the cushy life provided by their parents.. Days planning and they then blew INSANE money right after they murdered them
@@brooklyn2812 I think that because the trauma they had w their parent they weren’t able to see another way to get out of there. If someone abused me I would also want to kill them, everyone had their own way of relief pain (I would kill myself maybe, but yea)
@@brooklyn2812 Think about this, yes killing their parents was not right, but you have no idea what their father could've held over them if they threatened to leave or tell someone, obviously their father had to keep them very close in case they did say something, obviously murder wasn't the right choice, but that was physical and mental torture. you cannot just leave and expect yourself to forget about it.
They did kill someone so o-O
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? SO IF YOU KILL SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY ABUSED YOU THEY JUST GET TO BE LET FREE
If it were the Menendez sisters they wouldn't be in prison
They were adults, could have left the house if he was molested. Can’t believe your own child can take your life! 😡
it was self defense. this case needs to be reopened
Exactly
By definition it wasn’t self defense. It should’ve been reported to the police. I know it’s terrible and horrendous what their parents did to them but gunning them down was not the answer and should not be treated as the correct course of action. They were 17 at the time, they could’ve went to the police but they chose to murder them instead
@@stormnegele463 no one is saying what they did was the correct course of action it’s just that the punishment may be excessive given the circumstances
exactly it was self defense what the parents did to them was evil
Exactly
This is one of the worst cases of sexual abuse by a biological parent
Some parents never deserve kids :(
It’s a lie, they thought they could get a slap on the wrist if they said they were abused sexually. Don’t believe everything you hear.
tbh I only know this case from a TH-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
@@Chloe-jj6mh same!! i'm honestly so confused about this case. i watched stephanie's video and i kinda got the impression that it was basically just the brothers being spoiled kids, but now i keep hearing people talk about how they were abused and/or sexually abused (which is something stephanie mentioned, but said was just an allegation w/ no evidence). maybe I'm biased bc i watch a lot of her videos, but i'm leaning more towards what she said bc it just doesn't make sense to me why (if it was self-defense) they left to get more ammo and came back to shoot their parents more or why they would go on a shopping spree afterwards.
@@ghostly6007 Omg same!!! After I posted the comment I didn’t know if I was being insensitive or something but reading your comment made me feel better thx :)
@@CrZY_DnKS what other reason would there be though?
I live only like 2 minutes away from where this happened. I once visited the house. Game me some chills knowing that the schools I went to all my life we're close to where this happened.
This literally tore my heart ,like you can see the real pain on their faces...Their parents deserved that.. and I think every abusing parents should be punished like that.. Thank God I'm living somewhere where no one can't even imagine of such things ..
"Spoiled rich kids that wanted to inherit their parents money" no. They're literal VICTIMS.
tbh I only know this case from a TH-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
They try so hard to make them look bad when they are the victims
@@julietmota9205 nobody is "supporting" murder, open your eyes woman
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@julietmota9205 woman, I think you got it wrong. Their father is the one who has money and will kill them if they report to a police or what. They want the abuse to be exposed, what their parents did to them, they all want it to be exposed but his father who has the money will kill them
The fact the Erik struggled to tell the court that his father sexually assaulted him is so heart breaking.
it really breaks my heart. Erik admired him and looked up to him.
It broke me 🥺💔💔
It broke my heart when he started crying 😢
THEY ARE LYING YOU CLOWNS
@@ravenyouritielsens9744 do you have any proof of that or are you just speculating because you don’t believe male survivors or sexual assault? like they said at the start, if one kid kills their parents that’s a bad seed, if two kids kill their parents that’s a bad family. they’d been acting out for years which is incredibly common for survivors of abuse, there has to be a reason for it. i’m not justifying their actions, but i think it’s important to understand their thought process
They did not deserve life in prison. If I was abused like them, I won’t lie that I might do the same to escape
So many people assume rich peoples kids have it made, but they can suffer abuse just like anyone else.
A movie executive being a sexual harasser.
How unheard of.
karrriney Right? It happens all the freaking time. I think its even more gross that it was a father touching his own sons. Molesting HIS own sons. Gay, incestual. Creepy.
Illuminati bro stay woke
@@demariowilliams8 you're not woke illuminati isn't a thing
@@MyPussyBleeding-rn1mw I hope you have no tampons
Exactly majority of them are pedophiles
Pouring you’re heart out about rape and abuse and just to get life sentence in the end is just heart breaking this case needs to be re-opened
How old would they be now tho lol
When they poured their hearts out and openes up it was a hung jury not a life setence. We don't have video of what happens in the second trial, was probably a diffrent defense. They said Lyle didn't even take the stand.
@@jhonthomas2899 yeah the judge completely changed the rulings and said they couldn’t talk about the abuse.
@@deshaechase6843 Erik is 50 and Lyle is like 53
They lied about it
So, parents abuse their children, children grow up and seek revenge, then they get life sentences. Our world is fucked up.
Odd how they didn't tell a school counselor.
They look like absolute badasses walking in slo-mo in those suits
YEASS was thinking the same
Yeah Devin cause momma I’m in love with a criminal
they are finee tbh
I was thinking same thing they look badass lol
Lmao
can’t believe this is what quarantine has got me watching
Yes me too!
Facts 😂
Stop watching then 🙄
Hahah I know right? I went from David icke, to Joe Rogan videos to this. Lol
HAHAHAH same!
I wonder how this case would have played out today 🤔
@Mmm Ee lol. What?
who asked for the opinion of the last lady? what they did to their mother is evil? what she did is evil lady! she failed to protect them despite knowing the abuse was going on the house. if she were innocent or " too weak to act" at least she would have tried to comfort them as a mother. instead she didn't.
When a mother doesn’t protect the children, the rage is mounting
Terri Holliday I absolutely agree! Nothing pisses me off more! How do you let anyone hurt your kids?!
Yeah I m not saying themurder right but I don’t blame the boys especially if they were abused
Christy McVey i still want to be revengeful towards my mom because of this
exactly! people beliving they killed mom for money is BS.
there are a lot of moms in this world who turn blind eyes when her husbands abuse her kids. tolerate his action just to keep him or his money
Terri Holliday i was the 1000th like on this comment EKSKETIT
They are the real victims, that guy who was supposed to be a FATHER took everything from them.
I agree with you completely but they shouldn't have tried to hide it
GermanMartin MB I have no idea if it's true or not obviously I've done no research plus no one will really ever know the truth, but suppose it was real? You sound like you're actually the one whom is 10 just by telling someone to shut up about something they believe in, really immature kid.
That ridiculous, two wrongs done make a right. There are numerous options for victims of abuse to seek justice and freedom that doesnt involve murder.
A K most of the time justice isn’t served
A K it’s the 90s things were different back then
When the kids talked about being abused, you saw the painful expression on their faces, but no tears, because it's not a real cry.
I’m glad that these brothers were brave enough to stand up against their parents and the systems that didn’t protect them. Sometimes this is the only way to stop true evil.
Where TF is Kim Kardashian man lmaoo she helping everybody else get outta prison
Ikr, she's got her heart in the right place. People can call them bimbos, but their dad was a very brilliant lawyer and he's obviously passed that on to the kids.
June because she’s a lawyer/ becoming one something like that
@Merch not my fault you haven't been keeping upto date with what's she has been doing to bring justice to people incarcerated without fair trial.
@Merch there's something called Google. Don't come to the comments section for everything.
@Merch www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/05/07/kim-kardashian-is-funding-legal-team-that-has-freed-inmates/ since you're just going to say some uninformed cocky comment. Here you go
as someone who has been molested, i can tell that they weren’t lying on the stand about anything they said. i could see all the same emotions i feel on their faces
Zeb B I’m sorry this happened to you. The world is a beautiful place with DISGUSTING human beings
I’m a mental health nurse and after readying their documentary and all of that, for me it was so obvious that they’re emotions were real and deep... I guarantee that they were saying the truth. The interviewer was so judgemental and fucked to be honest!! She should get fired :|
They’re lyinggg why not report their parents instead of killing them make a court case against them ffs them brothers are lying
Oh shut up lmfaoo
I'm sorry that you've gone through that. I'm hoping you can find love and peace while living in this messed up world. You don't deserve it.
I will never forgive them for saying that their parents abused them. Isn't that what usually happens when you don't want to go to jail . Nothing stopped them from walking out and getting jobs.
You enjoy defending child molesters? Maybe you defend them because you relate to them.
Im struggling to breath watching this video 😭 This is so sad
Everyone who says it's deserved they got life in prison haven't experienced that kind of abuse
They killed there fcking parents and played with each other in the woods
@@stova9118 ware do you think it stated first? You think that it's okay for your father to abuse you and your mom not giving a DAMN the parents got off easy in my opinion.
Howard Alien it was deserved they took 2 lives but at the same time they are also victims. Sometimes justice isn’t fair.
@theotomeobsession yes, killing someone can never be justified, but, may i remind you theres something called suicide, and its something that happens after the abuse is too much, death can also be an escape from the living hell they go through... abuse leads to the said suicide, the last line that u said, death should never happen in the hands of someone else confused me, its like saying its ok to commit suicide after enduring the hell
@theotomeobsession The moment you create a child, you damn them to inevitable death. Why is that acceptable if this is not? I'll support the abused sons, not their disgusting, selfish parents.
I don’t even feel bad for the parents. I feel bad for these two.
why would you ever feel bad for the parents after what they did? anyone who does anything like that to their children deserve anything that happens to them
@@seanhenderson593 yeah
Same
@@seanhenderson593 if my parents did the same to me i would do the same as the brothers if i had the chance
@ABHINAV JAIN watch their documentary
Never believed that story. One was 18 and the older one was in his early 20's or older so why did they live with the parents if they were being molested. They were of age to live on their own yet continued living there. They were out living it up taking vacations buying cars they did not seemed so traumatized then
Disgusting how people treat these two victims of *horrible* assault. Chid sexual abuse of young boys is not taken seriously at all.
Their father was a disgusting horrible person. This breaks my heart. I hope they get justice soon.
I hope they get justice too.
What justice are they going to get
I hope too
@@theamcdcshow4426 none they are lucky that they are still a live. It would be better if they get the same as their parents. They could tell someone but htey didn't they killed their parents
@@randonguy6914 finally someone understands u dint kill them for that u tell someone
they’re so brave for reliving their horrific past in front of an entire courtroom. i have respect for them.
I know right, especially the fact that they went into detail; I could never
Respect??? Really??? That's a strange word to use for this situation, they murdered their parents. Why not just get the hell out, why wait all those years without saying anything? Oh right, they wouldn't have inherited all that money.
@@barbkearns3296 not that easy u idiot if you’re are young kid getting sexually abused,u don’t understand what that is at a young age so how are they supposed to just get out it’s not that easy
@@barbkearns3296 does it hurt being that dumb? you don't know anything about abuse. it's not easy to just "get out". also, the dad literally said he'd kill them if they told anyone. educate yourself
@@sicaqueen3884 they obviously lied about it to get sympathy from people
Even if they're proven innocent or whatever, no amount of consolidation or compensation can account for all that trauma and that disgusting mis treatment from the courts
Oh, so it's the justice system's fault that they're in prison. Get a grip! You apologists are something else:-/
@@jstephenj that's not what I mean, I mean the way they had to explain their trauma Infront of rooms of people. That would be too much for anybody
I don't get these comments here. BOTH abuse and murder are evil. You can feel empathy for someone and still say that killing is wrong.
i’m here from that one tiktok “but mama i’m in love with a criminal “
and i know it’s very wrong they shouldn’t be sexualized and it’s horrible i was just implying that i was here from a tiktok and i’m sorry if it came out the wrong way. they are traumatized human beings pls get help if u sexualized them.
THEY ARE VICTIMS AND SHOULDNT BE SEXUALIZED!!
they are murders i know but they are also victims
SAMELOL
me too...
same and I catched feelings
LMAO SAME
Me too and I got curious!
Its disgusting that their father got away with that for so many years and nothing was done. They should be sent to a psych ward for therapy not jail. They were sexually abused and emotionally and physically broken. Just sad
First Last you could just say there in prison
@@jessekamau1118 period😏
The father can't defend himself now.
@@corinatamez-hibbard939 Of course he would have denied it. That's what abusers do.
We know the justice most of the time act in favor to the disgusting father. We can not believe how the justice act in favor to the abuser man. The justice in everywherere act like garbage. How the justice sent to the prision even they know how the children suffer from they were very little children. Many time the justice are just garbage.
One photograph with Mr Menendez’ arm around his son’s waist says everything.
They told the truth.
Thankfully they have found love.
I feel so sorry for the Brothers 😢💔
“They killed there picture perfect family” why are they making them look like the bad guys when they aren’t 🤔 their parents weren’t innocent
Yes there parents weren’t innocent but they could have handled it another way, if it was self defense they would have harmed or injured them then maybe they would have let it slide but they don’t and the straight up killed them and if they handled it a different way their parents would have life sentence and would be charged and the boys could have had therapy or some kind of help but to me that was not the way to go
@@zxykell true
My only question is what did the mom do ?
@@xrtifi they were sexual assaulted by they parents
@@zxykell in a fit of rage or adrenaline rush they did more damage than intended to.
This is such an unfair case. They were the victims.
Fr
They are victims and killers
Victims that if they claim “self-defense” then they could’ve told the police that, not go on a damn shopping spree that made them look like they killed them for money
@@michaelbartlett2225 you don't understand how abuse works if you think they could have just gone and told the police.
@@abbysykes6673 I do, I know people who have been, there’s other ways to deal with it, things that help people escape, and it would’ve been different if it was when they were being abused they killed them, they they snuck up behind them with shotguns, that’s not self defense, self defense is when someone is trying to kill or severely injure you and you shoot and kill them, like a car jacking or home invasion, but it wasn’t they deliberately snuck up behind them, and like I said, they chose to be idiots and blow all that money they got, which is something that is VERY useful for prosecutors to use to convict, and it makes them think that was their motive, they could’ve done some things differently to avoid prison but they did what they did and have nobody to blame but themselves, and I hate how everyone says it was “self defense” and they were “victims” any other situation and it wouldn’t be said
Whenever you look upwards (towards the ceiling)"YOU'RE LYING" they even lied during calling 911..
This case hurts my soul. Because I myself was molested as a kid. Adopted into a family with new parents, new siblings. I thought I really had a good chance at a better life then I would have had I been put in foster care. I was sexually abused by my "sisters and brothers" I was the youngest of them all. I wondered why they all would do these things to me. I thought it was normal because so many siblings did to me... I felt so much shame and sadness. There were times I went to my parents and they wouldn't believe me, but I know they knew. Sometimes they would see how we were around each other... I was so uncomfortable with my family by time I was a teen because I think them doing all they did to me made me do stupid things when I was young, thinking it was okay and normal for kids... Teens anyone to do. Gave my virginity away like it didn't matter.. Failed relationships and being taken advantage of time and time again. I wish so bad my parents would have believed me and stopped it. I wish would have told teachers or someone. I still feel sickended to this day because I feel as if it was all my fault. They took it out on me when they were happy or sad. They always hated me for getting everything I wanted. I feel so sorry for these two. You can never really come back from all that. I know I still haven't
It’s not your fault, I’m sorry