How the NBA became SOFT!
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ย. 2024
- Ever wondered how the NBA became soft? I'm breaking down the evolution of the game of Basketball throughout the years, and the events that took place that's made NBA the soft league that currently is.
Follow Me on Social Media!
Instagram: / jonnyarnett
______
The game of Basketball has been my passion since I was 5 years old. I grew up as a kid watching my dad's recorded VHS tapes of playoff games through the 70s and 80s, and collected all the Basketball cards. Something about the game and what it represents just hooked me from a very young age.
My love for the game only continues to grow as time goes on. I love studying and analyzing the game, with an unbiased perspective. Feel free to subscribe, follow me on social media, and celebrate this amazing game and it's rich history with me!
I post videos every week on NBA history, predictions, hypothetical scenarios and current NBA topics.
______
Intro Music: Turn On - RW Smith • Turn On - RW Smith (No...
----------
Hip Hop Rap Instrumental (Crying Over You) by Chris Morrow 4 / chris-morrow-3
Creative Commons - Attribution 3.0 Unported- CC BY 3.0
creativecommons....
Music promoted by Audio Library • Hip Hop Rap Instrument...
#NBA #soft #basketball
Has the NBA become TOO soft?
Jonny Arnett -NBA TH-camr way too soft should be like the 90s
yes and too boring to watch,no D and only 3pt spam
Yes it’s but if there were these rules back then in the NBA the players would have broke them the nba would turn into a riot
The fact that you called it"sexy" should let you know how soft this crap is.
Tyler Pendleton that’s bc back then the players didn’t care about money
I remember back in 1996 when the Looney Tunes brought firearms and explosives onto the court. The league sure has changed a lot since then...
U ah foo for that 1...LOL
😂😂😂😂😂
Elite Rim Protection, Like in College Slam when you make the opponents rim disappear..lmao
And Barkley looked a little more presentable too.
Lmao
“Sensitive and fragile personality” shows a picture of KD😂😂
Lol every time he says soft he shows kd
That quotes fits Shaq perfectly that's why he is Mr. Sensitive, google him
😂😂😂 he is tho yaw can’t lie bruh
he should have showed Le36
It's the truth idk why u laughin
I'm a pistons fan but without the fans involvement, their would be no malice in the palace. Bring back hand checking.
I got a better idea remove zone defence would allow less crowding in the paint and less fouls
@@4xa719 its not like teams use zone defense heavily anyways. and removing zone defense does the exact opposite of what the original comment wanted -it makes defense worse, not better.
Wasn't that happened after no hand check?
1000% AGREED WITH THE HAND CHECK
@Marcus Carpenter ok so did u see trae,young just takes a 3pointer and NO one comes up to guard and he is just smiling at those bucks players,that would never ever of happened in the 80 or 90 never happen
bring the hand-checking back... that should be enough balance between civility and the so called hardness today's NBA needs.
rGG I completely agree!
@Mr Emoji cool down time?
That will actually work if the league also brings back the no-zone man-to-man defence. Today, the league is playing a variation of a zone defence. I understand the move. It is to keep in step with international style of play, ever since the league decided to send pros to international Fiba tourneys. This allowed hand-check and man-to-man defensive rule will make these 3 pt-shot-dependent players and team like the dinosaur, a thing of the past.
@500thou larry bird? John stockton? Pete maravich? Etc
Nigel Bertelson I think he meant European white players, you can’t deny that
The biggest reason is the officiating, ticky tack everything, im pretty sure shaq would foul out every game in todays nba, everyone just flops in the post, and the refs reward them for it
Flopping is definetely a bigger problem today. However, Shaq would have fouled out every game if he had played in the 60's or 70's when ramming your shoulder into another player (or just barely touching someone with your shoulder) was an offensive foul. Shaq got away with murder.
They called soft fouls too back then
@@rebelranger not really. Yes, Shaq would probably have a much higher foul rate in today's game. As for earlier eras, lowering the shoulder and digging in was an offensive foul, but simply being massive and using normal post moves while defensive players helplessly bounced off was not.
They still let stars play bullyball on offense. LeBron does it, and several others.
This was not allowed prior to the mid-90s. Shaq would have been more likely to foul out in the 70s or 80s.
See this video:
th-cam.com/video/r-XTPVBOCLw/w-d-xo.html
Give flop warnings for a flop with some contact, or a tech foul ( against the flopper ) for a flop with no contact, they do in the NBL.
Regarding artest, i heard from a different video that artest decided to chill on the scorers table cause his psychologist or manager or someone told him when he gets pissed off or is in a bad place he should find a place to cool off and clear his head. He chose the scorers table so someone throwing beer on him where he thought he was good just absolutely set him off and he exploded. All the fans fault
EDIT: i think i heard this on the all the smoke podcast where stephen jackson may have spoken about it cause they were teammates in indiana at the time
Agreed. The piston fans were a much larger part of the problem and got off easy. The entire Detroit organization got off way to easy for this incident.
Ben Wallace wasn't exactly stable either yet he got off much easier after inciting the whole thing.
Fan has no right to attack player
@@przebudzonawyobraznia ...as opposed to Metta World Peace running into the stands to attack the wrong fan?
@UC2JyAjEuC0j1GqG4hRnbavA the only problem I had is that he went after the wrong guy. if he got the right guy then I would have been fine with it. pussy ass fans do too much.
The Malice at The Palace wouldn't have been anything more than a scuffle if the fans didn't interfere.
Sandor "The Hound" Clegane
Greatest insignificant game in NBA history.
Hands down.
I really have a problem with how hard they punished players for how that crowd acted. They needed way more punishment and measures for the crowd, they were throwing punches, drinks, objects the entire time. The players have to be punished, sure. But throwing a drink is a huge bitch move. Artest was out of the incident and it was deescalating. Asking a grown man to let a drink hit him in the face and do nothing? “Hey please let yourself get assaulted. “. Not saying he shoulda ran up on random people, but some common sense should have been shown in his punishment cuz anyone woulda been irate. And that fan on the court deserved every bit of that punch. You had no idea what he had on him or what he was trying to do but he was ready to fight. Huge security issues. This coming from a pistons fan who cheered against the pacers.
True. So TECHNICALLY the league became softer after 2004 thanks to Detroit fans.
notatrollll i wouldve been fine if he had attacked the right guy but he started hitting some random innocent dude
@@theblazikenbro no it wouldn't have. The real perp shouldn't have thrown his drink
I will never forget when a no emotion duncan laugh at the bench and he gets a flagrant and thrown out of the game.
yeah this league becomes soft. 😂
Its was tech foul but yea it was hilarious
I remember that. It was completely ridiculous.
Coz the refs has never seen Tim laugh before,
and so when he did, the refs made it a point to make it memorable so that everyone remembers that one historical basketball moment.
I think Joey Crawford the referee had something against Tim Duncan
Tim Duncan and Crawford made up though after the ref retired. The ref was in San Antonio and apologized to Tim.
I remember watching the malice in the palace when it happened, never been more entertained lol. Those pacers and piston battles were incredible back in the day, the defense on both sides were elite.
I remember watching that and hearing Mike Breen and Bill Walton carry on about it "this is terrible! What a dark day for the league! Ron Artest has a scary look in his eye right now!" They sounded like that journalist crying out during the Hindenburg. And they weren't wrong. It was legitimately scary and tarnished the NBA's reputation significantly and you could sense that as it was happening.
But I was watching this at home thinking "Breen and Walton are right, but also...this is just awesome!" It was like the wildest thing I'd ever seen.
Removing hand-checking has really made the NBA "soft" IMO. The games became a 2 hr show of highlights. They seem to forget how those 80s 90s and even 2000s shots became highlights; it is because they worked hard for it and was a testament of their hardwork, ingeniuety, and will.
handchecking was banned above the free throw line in 1994 and then it was banned all together in 2004. you dont even know wtf u talking bout
Wil Agaton, watch this and enter an open mind like in the intro of this vid, th-cam.com/video/qPBz3_Jgd-U/w-d-xo.html
Yeah. Hand checking era where the only defense allowed was 1 on 1 lol. Hand checking was removed but zone defense were introduced
Hand checking has always been removed
They allowed warriors to hand check this last finals lol
intensity makes better competition
it's a competitive game, and we're ok with that. Same as KAT is :D for sure
Like when 80s and 90s were dominated by 1-2 teams?
Wrong
C T ^
@@1vaultdweller Like today's league was dominated by one team? NOT.
And they were dominated by two teams because they had the best player in their arsenal.
@@1vaultdweller Maybe those two teams won more (in the 80s, specifically), but there were plenty of good to great teams back then. Just to recap:
80s: Lakers, Celtics, 76ers, Pistons (who all won rings then), teams like the Bucks, who although they didn't win, were damn good (even knocking out Bird's Celtics in 1983) and Rockets (who knocked out Magic's Lakers in 1986) and up and coming teams like MJ's Bulls, Dominique's Hawks, Barkley's post-Dr J/Moses 76ers, Ewing's Knicks, the Cavs of Price, Nance and Daugherty, the Jazz led by Stockton and Malone, the Sonics with Xavier McDaniel and Tom Chambers, the Run-TMC led Warriors, Drexler's Blazers, the Suns of Kevin Johnson, Tom Chambers, Jeff Hornacek and Dan Majerle.
90s: Most of those same teams carried over into the 90s. Of course, the decade was dominated by MJ's Bulls. The Rockets were able to sneak in two rings. The Sonics were then led by Gary Payton and Shawn Kemp, the Suns traded Hornacek for Sir Charles, the Spurs led by David Robinson, the Warriors, Blazers and Jazz were still great. Ewing's Knicks battled MJ's Bulls for dominance in the East for most of the 90s, the Heat became formidable later in the decade, Reggie Miller led the Pacers to a couple of trips to the Eastern Conference Finals and a trip to the NBA Finals.
Shit, I'm probably forgetting a few more teams from the 80s and 90s. So what you said was complete nonsense, my dude.
I love how you always showed the teddy bear when saying soft 🤣🤣
KD?
😂
Should have put Magic Johnson's face on that teddy bear...or Labronda.
Why Magic?
Me too
How the hell is it every team is scoring over 100 points even the Suns. The league is really watering down and only a handful of teams are actually worth watching.
Yes and especially defense. I remember when the best defensive teams would only allow 88 to 92 ppg. Now it's around 100
in the early 80's every team scored over 100 points, despite the physical play. Players were more skilled and tougher mentally.
the game changes. more threes, less dribble
@500thou The 80s can really be seen as a transition era. Transition offense was the primary focus in the early 80s, while transition defense became the primary focus in the late 80s. This is represented nicely by the Showtime Lakers' championship in 1980 and the Bad Boys Pistons' championship of 1989.
@@jonjackson3689 maybe tougher but not better
Bring back hand checking and watch certain stars drop of scoring lists...
Harden would definitely drop
everyone would drop dummy
Nope it’s gonna just be a three point chucking travel fest from now on
@@Buttington_Headerson Oh like it's any better now. Run to the rim or shoot 3 pointer. Lab mices in a maze are more exciting.
itll bring out the truly best players of the era. Those like Lebron and AD will continue to dominate but others like curry and harden will phase out
I think the 90s had the perfect balance, I would want hand checking back and a more physical play but I think it was the players as well, they all wanted to compete and beat each other, it was about pride, friends off the court, worst enemy on it, the mentality has changed
yup and it was like ok each team had a superstar or maybe 2 maybe but usually 1 main...
Said soft 100 times & showed Durant each time he said it 🤣🤣🤣
or lebron
T. Mojito u mean harden
@@andylee6147 lol him too.
Even curry and harden lmao
Bring back the hand check and let the centers own the paint again... make these guys earn it.
Uzi Umar just remove 3 secs and bigs will dominate. Hand checking was an excuse for bad D.
@@MemeRepublic hand checking is still a good rule to bring back.
@@MemeRepublic that's stupid
Let centers own the paint?? Centers can’t camp in the paint anymore... even if it was legal, centers are shooting now. What center today will choose to camp in the paint while playing a Joel Embiid or KAT, or other centers that can shoot the ball?
HELL NO.
The 1990s was the best period for officiating with a balance of very physical play, but not to the level of allowing flagrant 2s to be called as standard personal fouls.
Yeah it was physical, but wasn’t like the 60s and 70s where there would be fights every game
Idk, 1890s sounded pretty cool, cage matches, blood all over the court.
@@thecensoredmuscle563 yeah if you like the goon “bad boys.” I for one was thrilled to see them stomped out in ‘91.
Everything's cool. Just bring the Hand Check back to the league.
Hector Med Yeah, that would certainly tone down all these crazy inflated stats nowadays. Everything comes so easy now
Hand checking wouldn't do much. People talk about how much removing hand checking has ruined defense, but everyone ignores that the zone defense is permitted today whereas it wasn't permitted in the 90's. Zone defense makes it possible to play 5 against 1 on defense, and would make MJ's isolations more difficult. The real reason for today's inflated stats are analytics, offensive schemes have become more complex, and today's players are better shooters.
@@ziginaigra The three second rule does limit the zone defense to an extent. You can't use a 2-3 zone defense like you can in college. However, the zone defensive rules are much more flexible and allow the defense to do a lot more things than they could with the old illegal defense rules. You can double team players without the ball, shadow players with the ball, double team the post to get around the defensive 3 second rule, play 3-2, 1-2-2 zones, and box and 1 defenses. MJ himself said he hated the zone defense when he played with the Wizards. Kobe said he preferred handchecking to zone defenses. You'll be able to see it in this video.
th-cam.com/video/YM_eCnTNt1Q/w-d-xo.html
@@rebelranger i see u are expert,so if zone is so good and hand checking is crap why every shit team in nba score over 100ppg?
i didnt see mj having problems with scoring even whan he was wizard
@@ziginaigra Because the three point shot is how you beat the zone defense. Zone defenses are meant to prevent drives to the basket and easy layups. They are usually weaker the farther you go out. The 3 point shot in today's NBA has created so much floor spacing that it stretches zone defenses and makes them almost irrelevant. With that said, teams will still use zone concepts to shadow star players and play off of non-shooters like Ben Simmons to double team Jimmy Butler or Joel Embiid. Analytics have also improved offense because 3 pointers, lay-ups and free throws are all worth more than midrange jumpers. As far as MJ is concerned, he was far less efficient when he played with the Wizards. Granted he was much older, but Iverson's field goal percentage also dropped when zone defenses were implemented, as did T-Mac, Paul Pierce, and most perimeter and post players whose games did not have an at least average 3 point shot.
Here’s the difference: all of the rules you listed before the 2000s were implemented for safety reasons. Hand checking was banned because “offense is sexy.” That’s what led to the game being soft: the coddling of the offensive player for the sake of entertainment value.
agreed
Because David Stern got tired of Michael Jordan losing to the pistons
💯
@@life0093 By that time he won 3 titles.
Well said and now theres to many mj wanabes in the nba no one with their own individual style just clones of mj.
The worst part about the NBA becoming soft in the 2000s was that it made it very easy for the officials to fix games. Such as the 2002 WCF or 2006 NBA Finals.
The only thing I like from today's basketball it is the HD cameras and slow-motion cameras ! ! !
In the 90's I can watch basketball all day long and get excited; now I can only watch like 5 minutes.
Yep. Me too
Highlights
fuck you , you only watch highlights
Yea it doesn’t keep my attention like it used to for sure
shut the fuck up, boomer.
Stats nowadays are inflated, it's like homeruns in the steroid era.
Perfect example to me man. Bingo that's why a triple double really a double double now
Yea every game is like 130 points 🤪
Just the extra FT shots along would ad 5.0 ppg minimum to the top scorers averages back then! Not even including the fact you can't touch them at all! I could really see guys scoring 10 more ppg overall in today's league !
Or passing in the NFL.
You’re entitled to your opinion
This video made MJ even scarier and more great than we expected
The Pistons toughened Mike up. And after Oakley left the Bulls, MJ didn't really have an "enforcer." I remember an interview where it was mentioned that Horace Grant was supposed to be the enforcer. MJ said, "Horace??? Hell, I can whip Horace!"
Remember when jordan and the bulls got beat up by pistons bad boys(not hard defense but literally beat up) yet jordan survive and never back down til they became champs at 1991. Jordan and the bulls never ask help on the refs and officials. Jordan and the bulls prove to this era of nba that you dont need to pay someone to cook the game. Hardwork, patience, endurance, mindset, immunity, seeking improvement, trusting teammates. Todays era of nba, the shitiest game i ever saw was harden punch the balls of crowder and crowder got the foul instead of harden. TF nba.
@@kimberhonsayco5045 i remember back then on 90's ECF loss MJ was thin, then suddenly on 91 season he has become bulk up, not only him also pippen and grant.. they had the whole offseason to lift haha then they destroyed the detroit pistons they cannot even shake hands
Ardin Hajihil detrioit was destroyed because isiah thomas was injured.... and jordan could never beat larry
asha yadav 1-9 without pip
Imagine Jordan playing in today's NBA with no hand checking. The man would averaged 50 ppg. And Stevie Wonder can see the NBA today is soft as puppy shit compared to the 80s/90s.
handchecking was banned above the freethrow line in '94 are u fucking dumb
@Greg A yup and that's the year most players had a career year in scoring.
Greg A he went on to 3 more titles
My thought exactly as he explained the hand checking rule change.. Air Jordan wudda been like, the Michael Jordan of basketball 🤔😂
NOBODY hand checked Jordan. You couldn't BREATHE on him without sending him to the line. In fact, ALL the no contact rules were made FOR Jordan. Against the Pistons in 1991, Jordan shot more free throws in a 4 game ECF than Lebron shot in the 7 game 2016 Finals against the "soft" Warriors. All these Jordan fan boy videos severely misrepresent what happened. The reason the 1990s were low scoring was NOT because the players were tougher but because they were less skilled--Oakley, Mason, Mahorn, Starks, Greg Anthony, Singe, Mahorn, Russell, Hornacek, Byron Scott, Terry Porter, Jerome Kersey, Terry Teagle. That was why the product sucked. The game is WAAAY better today because explosive athletes like Westbrook and Kobe and Durant spent YEARS honing and perfecting their craft. Calling them "soft" is just dumb.
The NBA looked at Michael Jordan and realized that the fans loved him so much and his style, that they wanted to change the rules and culture to allow more players to be as close to a clone as possible. What they failed to realize was that the fans loved Michael not just for how good he was, but the fact he did overcome some of the toughest defenses in NBA History. NBA kind of missed that part. And now this soft easy game is what we have. Guys like Michael Jordan in this era would find it too easy. It's not really a challenge anymore, it's more about putting on warm up dunk type highlights and showcase, than actually competing. It's like a shoot around competition than an actual intense practice session. Jordans training skirmishes would have been more intense and interesting to watch than a regular nba game from this era.
Well said..Thank You. LOL
Yes, well said and true !
And one more thing. Jordan would've overcame anything the NBA through at him . He pretty much proved it.
Raymundo Alvarez what’s your obsession with nuts?
@@kennethhardeman4209 Raymundo loves to crack nuts.
Jordan averaging 35+ ppg in a era where you can literally beat up a player and get away with it is simply amazing, he could truly average 50+ ppg in todays era
no he couldn't lol
He would have average 40-43 easy but he ain’t averaging 50 stop the cap
Myth SMH. If LeBron played in that soft 80's era he'd average like 35 with his eyes closed since he have so much fouls.
@@Asian2706 lmao! You got to be kidding me! There's no way he would average 35 in the 80's. And he wouldn't have won any rings either. The centers and Pf's of that era would have kept him to about 27-28 pts per game. And he definitely wouldn't have won a ring against Magic's Lakers or Bird's Celtics, and especially not against the D-fense of the Bad Boys. If Jordan couldn't average 35 or get a ring in the 80's and he was used to playing against brutal defense, there is no way LeBron could do either of them. Especially with the cupcake defense that he's been used to playing against for at least the last 10 years! You know I'm right.
@@leeyanity1077 Mhmm, you make these statements with contradictory observations like you’re some sort expert when you’re not. The statements you make are completely subjective and you don’t know what will happen, same for me, expect I back up my statements with evidence. If the 80’s is so physical he would score more points from fouls, injure more people, and be more achieved. The fact that people say LeBron is weak is so stupid, like, LeBron is literally top 5 strongest NBA players of all time, he should have no trouble adjusting, and don’t forget he played in the 2000’s era where hand-checking was still allowed. now with your #1 argument out of the way, I should be winning this argument. Imagine LeBron in his prime right now, he would tear up the league, and with him shooting more threes, he would revolutionize the 80’s.
Damn Michael took a beating and was still the best. R.i.p kobe
Nobody kicked either of them in the shins
"Fragile personalities”
*shows kd*
ʜᴏʟʟʏᴡᴏᴏᴅᴅ3ᴍᴏɴ ! Yeah that’s an exact description of a moment in the video, creative
Lebron should have been shown too. Dude gets easily triggered when his ego is put in check. And MJ, Kobe, Kareem, Wilt, Magic, Bird, etc never referred to themselves as the GOAT. They let their peers do that for em. Lebron has to constantly tell everyone he is the goat. He knows he isn't but feels he needs to tell everyone he is. Stable people don't do shit like that.
Optimus Prime didn’t Ali brag on himself too?
Insert Kyrie Irving and Noah 😂
LeBron
Players today are sometimes lazy to play D, I appreciate the intensity of Pat Beverly
Beverly use antics. He's not able to play any real hardcore defense in today's game.
Best time the NBA was from 84 to 98 that was the golden age
From Brid to Magic to Bad Boys to MJ and the Dream? Not bad...
I mean Bird...
Jordan era was the cupcake era
Melvyn Singleton congrats you a very smart guy bro you copied that from Shaq who is the that call an era like that and I’m sure is not my era, but I’m sure you are a very smart guy
I didn't know the 80s was cupcake. News to me.
This is why Allen Iverson said he likes football more than basketball....AND He's a NBA HALL OF FAMER!!!
Erik Killmonger you are aware he said that while GROWING UP in the 80s and 90s
The NFL is Soft too
NFL had to be made softer as its actually dangerous. NFL is still infinitely tougher than basketball
You mean the same Iverson that QUIT on his team twice? Fuck what he thinks.
Bringing hand checking back would be a Great thing for the NBA... Much easier to compare players and see if these guys REALLY are as good as the Past Legends
The NBA was physical in the 1980's and the scoring was still HIGH!
Because teams played in a real system and plays were set up for efficiency. Nowadays, the NBA is a chuckfest!
The 80s wasn’t even that physical.
Just because the Pistons played physical doesn’t mean every other team played like that.
They were anomalies.
Watch Jordan’s 63 point game against the Celtics. It’s laughable how bad the defenses were. They looked so disorganized, they’re obviously very unathletic to match up with him and those guys would get fuckin roasted in today’s NBA.
James Lee well I’ve seen plenty of 80s games. FULL 48 minutes. Not highlights, not cherry picked clips. The full games and the “physicality” is extremely exaggerated. If you honestly think the NBA back then was some UFC battleground where players could supposedly assault each other with no repercussions, then you’re been lied too.
Basketball back then was just that: Basketball. Referees existed back then.
@@Terror832 Lakers vs Celtics the marquis match up in the 1980's was extremely physical. It was the era of the big man and thats what I saw. We had hand checking putting forearms on the back. Elbows allowed when clearing rebounds. No layup rule for players coming into the lane. All common place and most now illegal. So you are wrong. You may have been watching basketball but maybe not the NBA. Also answer this question. Why dod they start prohibiting the things I mentioned if they were not being used. We saw the same thing in the NFL and NHL. Changed rules to lessen the physicality. They all followed the same trend. Say what you want. The evidence lies in the rule changes themselves.
James Lee we can agree to disagree. I’ve seen the games and I don’t think it’s as bad as it’s made out to be. Maybe once every 50 possession you may get a slight hard foul but not to the point where today’s players can’t “survive” in that era. Just because something is “illegal” doesn’t mean players don’t do it. Flagrant fouls still exist in today’s NBA just like the hard hits still exist in the NFL. Granted their punishments are harsher but it still happens. That also applies for handchecking and other things referees don’t necessarily see.
this is why, i dont watch the full game at all, i just check the final score and that't it, no excitement at all.... by the next few years, im not be watching nba at all
I watch college ball way more than the NBA nowadays.
I think today's game in terms of the offensive skills being displayed is very entertaining. But in terms of competitiveness, the rules and refs get in the way.
Sultada 101 nn nm
2020 season can’t even go a solid 2 mins without a foul being called, now it’s shoot a three, or barely take any contact and go shoot free throws.
My brother I couldn’t have said it better myself!
I remember the 80's. Man. That decade is unforgettable. I can still remember us teasing each who do we want to be when we grow up after pick up games. It was mostly a toss between Magic, Bird and occasionally Kareem. I missed those times. Lots of love from Asia.
"we talking about the big boy era or the cupcake era that is the league today" - Shaq
The same video where hollins thought lebrons Cavs could beat the 90’s bulls😂
"Cupcake era" dumb af y'all calling today's players soft it's call adapting to the rules shaq cappin he shouldn't be talking since he was Oakley's bitch boy.
@@hwang900 its a pussy league
that's what shaq and others all talk about fouls shaqs right but for the fights getting technicals the games is basketball and it call a sport,sport helps the community to unite the concept was forgotten i love everything in every country ,remember the word be in sport not in drugs or just be sport you lose the game accept it,so for the new era to not tolerate fights nba getting tech for just even jawing at its other nba doesn't tolerate that its like were proffesioanal right here lets play the game,like what if your 5 years old aon or daughter watch this yeah son you see that do that when you grow up act like that dont just jaw them with your mouth punch them in the effen face you see shaq follow how him
exactly, 90s had big men that played big
Not just the game, the world has gone soft.
Fr
Yes..I agree
Everything has
BIG facts
FACTS
I can't imagine Rodman vs rest of the NBA lol
He would eat them alive. There are no players like him no more. I sure as hell hope so someone like him shows up in the future
Rodman was an emotional castoff. He was a disaster when not under Chuck Daly or Phil Jackson.
Or do you really want to talk about his literal nervous breakdowns on the court while at San Antonio, Dallas, or Los Angeles? Dude was a Cancer on those teams.
I could imagine Rodman vs the NBA in 2020. He’d be a burnout that would have a two year career.
@@broaddusmarines check out his spurs stats bro.
X_Master_X Top the closest we have is Beverly idiot nba bandwagon
@Joshua LeFranc Giannis doesn't have the handles to abuse Rodman. Rodman has been guarding quicker guards and elite forwards of his time. Besides, Rodman won't even try to score. So how can Giannis shut him down? Know your history bro. And in the post, Rodman has been guarding the likes of Alonzo Mourning, Patrick Ewing and Shaq. All more Bully than the Freak down the post.
"No blood, no foul."
- Preacher
Rolan that’s how it was when basketball was made it is scary
That only happens in the Philippines Basketball 😂
After watching this, I just can't help but think that these are the reasons why lots of players are blowing up the scoreboard nowadays.
Great video, man! Keep this up! 🤟
When historians look back at the 2010s, it'll be known as the...Charmin Era.
Justin Lui unfortunately true
The 2020s even more so, since everyone is hoarding tp.
2020s actually be known as the no basketball era
If Harden played in the 80s..He'll loose the beard!!!
Daniel Barwatt he will average 25+ easily
@@DTB1995 Are you serious?? That man would average 30+ a night
If Harden played in the 80s everybody would lose their ankles since he can cross up anybody who guards him.
And miss me with that “PhYsIcAl” nonsense. Referees existed back then. I remember Bill Laimbeer fouling out for literally taking a charge but was called a blocking foul.
@@DTB1995 Foolish comment, you obviously dont even watch todays game if you think its soft and James would destroy in any era
He would get called for travelling on every step back and would get the beat down by someone every night.
80s/90s = Grown Man's Game
Mid '00s - present = Soft as Cottonelle Tissue; WWE basketball
Amen!!
Cool don’t watch it then.
@@klinkov6393 Why because he's speaking facts
Early 00s grown man's game too
Watching the nba is like watching pickup games at the gym. 🙄
Dude pick up games are more intense... Except bookers' ones...
@@Trdjj6447 has this dude ever played pick up, at my rec center at least people play good defense. None of that soft shit either.
I've seen pick up games more interesting than todays NBA.
Lol Eric doesn't even leave his basement
@@Ted_Bell only when your mama calls. She calls me daddy to son.
the soft game are one of the major Reason why i stop watching nba games actually
1:43 amazing how you got video footage of the 1890s before video was invented lol
Lol
🤔 well damn
Motion pictures existed in the 1890s. Roundhay Garden Scene is from 1888.
@@racewiththefalcons1 damn so this was real pioneering footage! well aint that amazing
@@racewiththefalcons1 Yeah, people don't realize motion picture dates back to the late 19th century. You can find film from the 1890 on TH-cam
Very enlightening. Didn't realize the League basically made the game "soft" and not so much the players. Very informational video.
The physicality and fighting is actually really amazing and they should bring that back.
Maybe that's just the hockey fan in me speaking but it's awesome
Thank you! I've been waiting on someone to make a video on this topic. Especially so these kids or those who haven't watched the NBA back then can see how soft today's NBA is compared to back then in the 80's and 90's NBA era were it was tough and physical. A real man's game and sport!!
Yeah NBA today doesn’t have people beating the hell out of each other
Lebron calling Adam Silver to snitch on Draymond Green that was the softest move ever
Guess you'll let mfers kick you in the nuts intentionally....
BTW them "homies" you look up to are Snitches...if he "getting money" he telling or told on somebody
@@southernflavamaker well if someone kicked me in the nuts, I would handle that different after the cameras go off, as for "the homies I look up to" I don't look up to any of my associates, everyone isn't my "homie" I know snitches exist everywhere, but in NBA basketball that's a whole different situation. So keep your "stereotypes to yourself sir
Soft
@headake28 u wouldn't say it to his face so shut up!
The softest move ever was Kobe (RIP) snitching on Shaq.
80s and 90s ball had a perfect amount physicality
Hand checking would definitely have these new players exposed lmao
Players still handcheck in today’s NBA despite it being “illegal”. Anyone who has played basketball has been touched and checked and their skills don’t magically go away.
Martha Sviniard LOL what do you think handchecking is? Grenade blasts? You do know handchecking was already illegal in 1979 and they called handcheck fouls back then and even the referees give the signals for it. th-cam.com/video/TEF1lVcUDEk/w-d-xo.html
I’ve been saying this for a long time 🤦🏾♂️💯💯
thelegendsqb1 lmao!
They'd all be hand checking each other so it would be a wash. If LeBron or any other star hand checked or vise versa, they'd just get points in a different way. This whole idea that people wouldn't be good with hand checking is just stupid.
It’s too easy to score 50 points now for a player because of the weak ass defense nowadays. This is the NBA not no damn AND 1 mixtape game. Bring the hand checking back
80s and 90s players achieved greatness despite all the hand checking and "flagrants". It would be interesting to see how players stats would change if they brought back some of the old rules. Great video.
Players like LeBron and Zion would be even more dominant
@@nadaesfacil no they want. They will be crying. Today's game they killing it.
@@DaPharaohDaEmperor116 not if they get used to it. They are both strong and athletic.
Yup everybody wanna be friends with everybody and seek validation from social media these days
Magic at one point wanted to be friends with Larry Bird. But Bird was not interested at all. Cause for one their teams were rivals and 2, it's just the way it was.
@@masonorosco1090 truth! So they just waited until retirement
I don’t see what the problem is with ppl wanting to be friends
Cash idk man. Who are you to say what makes people compete. I know when I played basketball I always wanted to beat my friends and played harder against them so that I could Shittalk after the game when we hung out. Everyone’s wired differently on what motivates them and you can’t make general blanket statements
@@masonorosco1090 so magic was soft? Player empowerment made more of a move to cooperation and friendship than generational softness. Now are they more vain and aware due to s.media? Sure. But would mj and magic be just as bad if they had twitter then? Sure.
GREAT video! This was a great way to explain how the league has gotten to where it is today. It's sad, some of the changes were very necessary, but I think it's a cupcake league now. Players are taking the new rules to an extreme. Bring back handchecking and I'm satisfied.
Saaaaame. Handchecking getting reintroduced would reignite defense in the NBA. Would also give us sooo many answers to comparing the different eras
@@jonnyarnett Absolutely. And that's the point. The problem is handchecking should have been during the Lebron reign. But without it, we'll never know how to truly measure him against other greats who played in that sort of game.
@@wizmanballin8498 imagine LeBron being able to handcheck, it would have definitely helped him on defense as he would be allowed to use his physicality more.
I'm not understanding why anyone would dislike this video. It's the absolute truth and the NBAs history. Well done my brother
I remember watching back in the late 80’s and 90’s and what’s ironic is that the older people at that time always complained because basketball was suppose to be a “non-contact” sport and all the physicality was ruining the game. Anyways, I enjoy some of the physicality as long as it isn’t putting players at risk. They need to allow for hand checking again.
What a bunch of hypocrites
I believe this video also stresses the Greatness of The GoAT🐐
Because Jordan was able to surpass all those Tough Defenses on Him and still managed to play like MJ All Day and flourished to be the Greatest Player ever🏀😊
Badg31C0n lol, he did during his Wizards years, and still dropped 96 points in 2 games, bad knees and all 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You LeBum fans conveniently forget that even without zone defense, MJ has had to deal with double-triple teams throughout his career, and he still excelled.
And he never got blocked by guys shorter than him by 8 inches, not once, but twice 😂
@Badg31C0n 3-6 isnt a good look at all. He folded against the mavs! Mj is by far the GOAT! With these rules he would average 50
Badg31C0n
You're lying like a nympho on spanish fly.
@Badg31C0n imagine being so damn good, that the only hope of slowing you down is to brutally foul you.. fouls that would be flagrant in today's game. If Bron /harden, and KD played in that era. No way do they put up the numbers they today.
Jonathan Laque dog you sound stupid. You know why you take cheap shots is because you don’t belong on the court with the real players who know how to play. Any rim protector taking pride in physically hurting someone over being a shot blocker couldn’t do shit.
I'm there with you on the improvements to less rough fouls but it still doesn't change the fascinating fact that these players STILL scored despite the roughness.
Great analysis I love this video I'm glad you were exposing the truth people need to know what's going on in the nba because it's not the players that makes the game softer, it's the new rules that changes the players style of their game
And to answer your question: heck yeah I wanna see competition more than I wanna see Kyrie Irving on the court. If I ever did decide to go to an NBA game, it's to watch basketball competition at an intense level, not to see Kyrie or inflated egos dribble through their legs all day with what looks like zero D. Why? Cause I can perform the same feats at home or local gym with cones.
meg maybe he uses his dribble moves to confuse his defenders and get around them and not to boost his ego?
Why is that "soft bear" so satisfying? 🤗🤗🤗
Anyway, bring back handchecking and this will be a whole new game. 👋👋👋
This Just Makes MJ even Greater
How? They added a rule so he can win (beat Pistons). Thats lame. Winning when the league was at its best (Da 80's) would make MJ greater.
@@dblackzilla I think he trying to say if like Jordan played today without all the physicality, he would be able to put up insaneee numbers
There's no what if lmao you can't go back in time and bring back jordan into 2020
Dillon Fowler no because the skill would even out
Or softer
So with these rules implemented, that will make MJ in his prime to fly by any best players in today's NBA with ease.
Man, As Always Jonny, You Provide A Level Of In Depth Analysis, Rarely Seen By Most You-Tubers!!!! I Love Your Content!!!!!!!! 👏💪✊💯
The malice at the palace is where things really took a turn. After that NBA busted out the technical fouls and cottonelle tissues.
Bro Wallace would've destroyed Artest.. Imagine an angry Wallace coming at you lol.. done for.
The fact that the occurrence of injuries hasn’t dropped despite the league’s softness shows that it’s time to make it more challenging to score!
I'm pretty sure players fake injuries today just to get rest. They're soft.
In Game 6 of the 1981 ECF between the Sixers & Celtics, Cedric Maxwell attacked a fan just like Ron Artest did. But instead of the rest of the players & audiences escalating things by joining the fight, both sides simply diffused the situation and the game continued w/ Maxwell not even receiving a penalty. Later on in the same game, another fan threw a drink towards the court, causing Kevin McHale to clean up the backboard before play could resume. It was before the modern tradition of "always fight your teammate's opponent instead of trying to calm both sides" became commonplace by the time the Malice at the Palace occurred.
Jordan would definitely avenge 50 in this day and age🤣
On who? He couldn't. Average that on gary Payton midget self
@@sirm.a.r.s4640 on all these scubs like lepurse,KD,hard head, westbric ect
He would foul out by the end of the third quarter
@@jordanstahl2237 even by only playing 3 quarters because of that he would still have an average of 40+ ppg
@@jordanstahl2237 l..40 year old mj averages 20+ppg 1987 mj would have a walk in a park in this league right now...if youre talking about fouling its the opposite , because mj is very good in getting players to foul since he loves to drive inside😅😅
Players in this era are blessed with inflated stats.
Now even Timmy laughing at the side of the court get ejected. Some rules were made to protect the players, but somehow now the refs messed it up
Good video. All these and the obsession with analytics not only made the NBA soft, but boring
A P it made the NBA better. Now there are countless players better than Jordan.
@@MemeRepublic why better? It only made MJ even greater.
@@MemeRepublic Yeah, no bitch.
@@MemeRepublic there is NOBODY in this era better than Jordan. Name 1 player with 10 scoring titles, 9 all nba defensive and 6 and 0 in the finals. Name 1 player that averaged 41 in the playoffs jordan did and nobody else did. Better than Jordan my ass
Might as well replace the human players with robots.
It eliminated overly physical defense, but it didn’t eliminate good defense
💯
There is no good defense today.
Steel Cage!!! Hell yeah!!! GET SOME!!! I'M READY!!!
AND SO IS EVERYONE ELSE FROM THE 80S/90S 👍😎👍
There just needs to be less foul calling and more calls on travels by players like LeBron, Harden, and Giannis. Also stretch out the three line to discourage a way too frequent reliance on long shots. Those three things will greatly improve the game's quality.
I always remember when I used to play streetball everyone would be handchecking like crazy... you couldnt blow by anyone unless you really faked them or were much much faster than them. I feel like playing a proffesional game most streetballers would find it easier in one on one.
Now if forgot to brush your teeth and had a bad breath.,that's a flagrant foul 😂😂😂😂
😂 “sensitive and fragile personalities” shows durant’s pic. LMAO!!
Mondrian if you turn the pic around, you will also see Joel Embiid's face
Malice of the palace was one my favorite parts of my childhood I used to watch this everyday and get so hyped😭
Yes in my opinion the NBA has become to soft that's part of the reason why it has become boring!!! Now days pretty much any kind of aggressive physical contact is considered to be flagrant!!! That's what's made it so easy for players to score more points like CURRY, HARDEN WESTBROOK, and of course LEBRON JAMES and many others that sometimes can score at will!!! I don't think these guys would put up the points they do now back in the mid 80's against teams like the DETROIT PISTONS!!! Back then only players like MJ and WILKINS were able to score a lot of points but they sure took a beating in the process!!! Now days theirs a lot of players that can drive down the lane and score without being touched!!! Where as in the 80's and before then you weren't given any layup's or any kind of easy points!!! So yes they need to let them play a little more physical but without trying to hurt each other so it won't be to easy for anyone to score!!! Great video!!!👍👍👍
LeBron is bigger and stronger than MJ, he would also have benefited from having no zone D
He would have feasted in the 80s, stop the BS
@@rafikz77 LeBron struggled to stop Kobe Bryant who couldn't stop MJ. Stop it! Greats are greats no matter what era they're in. But with this new "Freedom Of Movement" rule the NBA has become a complete joke defensively. Anybody can score 30 points now. Zone defense means nothing when every time a 2nd guy comes in to guard during the middle of a drive they get a foul call lol.
Idiot
@@rafikz77 No he wouldn't. His bum ass would get locked down
Kobe scored LeBron's career high in his last game.... Let that marinate
That's why if Jordan plays today era, he put 50 points per game, easy!👌
I agree.. because jordan learn to be tough in a hard ways from hard physical defense thats why he is very unstoppable if he play basket today. Mj got 50 or 70 more. Have you remember old mj (wizard) at age 40 played young ass era? Mj got 59pts schooled young era. Damn MJ GOAT.
True and also most hall of famers.
Laurence Tiangco I think Phil Jackson claims it would only be an average of 45 ppg lol
@@ilikeme1234 it was Rodman that said 50
arronnov what?
After the Malice in the Palace, when a player is laughing sitting in bench, he may get T-ed up (Duncan 🤣).
Awesome video. One major point you missed out was, the age difference when players entered into NBA. Now people are jumping from High School to NBA, so when that happens the NBA has to change the rules a little to accommodate that entertainment. Pros and Cons are basically, it's highly entertaining but since it's still a game, the entertainment is lost in it and lots of flopping around happens, because of no hand checking and stuffs you described. But basically awesome video man!
Very well explained! I always thought that the reason today's game is soft is because of players like Curry and Harden. This video explained it all. WOW!
Simple answer: The NBA became soft once dudes started following each other on Twitter
Jonny: lays out a detailed history of the nba showing all the changes in culture and laws
This guy: nah it's twitter
Yeah I'mma go with Jonny
@@usxnews1834 ikr lol
why did this get do many likes? its stupid
I will say I mostly agree you make some great points but the biggest problem I feel with today's game is everybody is way too friendly in some cases that look like a glorified pick up game
If you blow at hardens beard, with modern rules you get ejected and pay a fine. harden gets 2 free throws and an and 1
In the late 80s-early 90s, if Harden wasn't bleeding, he wasn't fouled.
They wouldn't have suspended Draymond Green in the 2016 finals in the 80s..no way.
Well...Snapchat wasn't a thing then, so I'd agree lol
To be fair he kinda deserved to be suspended. He had like 5 different issues in that playoff run alone
He would have been dealt with by punched in the head every other week until he quit. Unlike green, not one of the 80s or 90s guys were walking vaginas who kicked or targeted people’s nuts.
Selton K facts
Being soft isn’t necessarily a bad thing, it’s a skill based game, not a full out brawl.
It was invented as a brawl out game. So it actually is supposed to be a physical game.
Love when jumping on people back's and knocking them down is good defense
Underrated comment
Deadass how people who defend the late 80 and early 90s sounds
😂😂😂🤣
Thank you!!! Defense back then took way less skill
"Jumping on people's backs and knocking them down" isn't that what Harden does and Draymond?
I wanna see other malice in the palace. Anybody that says no is lying. Look how many views videos got when lakers and rockets fight happened last year, look at the browns and Steelers game that fight was talked about.
If you wanna see one then go to a game and start a fight don't be a pussy
I wish the hand-check rule wasn’t changed. When I’m playing pick-up basketball with my friends, we hand-check each other all the time
Another great video, you use a very nice selection of images in the videos, different angles, as far as the I feel like it was a natural evolution of the league, you had to protect the players, but it just t became too soft, I really miss some teams playing good defense, I feel like the 2008 to 2012 seasons were the last of good defense teams. The playoffs from those years had some very good d. They have to find a balance at some point
I think the tackling of the old days was abit much. However when u can't even LOOK at someone without consequences, that's too far to me.
Now not only are there no tense rivalries, people are all buddy buddy in a competitive sport now.
I say, allow some trash talk, but don't allow any hands to be thrown
This.
Brawling is not basketball, but trash talking is more than welcome
Exactly
My sentiments exactly! But I don't think these players have the mental capacity to keep the trash talking on the floor without throwing punches and up their play while being talked to. They are not mentally stable enough if you ask me!
@@kcire-tv3wy players talk trash all the time even at the street have you tired playing basketball? Even hs basketball talks trash. They sont emphasize it now since if they do they need to move up to pg or rated r.
it is soft....but even David Stern said that he let things get out of hand with the Bad Boys in Detroit....I like the 80 s NBA so much better......but it had turned into a war zone by late 80 s early 90 s...….
The no trash talking rule has broke my heart for years, take the hood out the game, take the personality out the game frustrating..
Missing KG so much...
Yea getting in peoples heads was part of the game
Seems like more injuries now. I’m a physical therapist and I can easily crush the hands of most athletes I meet now. Softer and easier to break.
David duFresne guys are weaker than they were just 25 years ago. Look it up yourself. I grew up doing hard labor on a farm and I’m not kidding a lot of athletes seem fragile compared to when I was competing and as a 41 year old the 20 somethings are way more delicate.
@@robmangeri777 that's because they are playing year round and are entering the league with more miles than past generations. This has been a concern for many people as players aren't resting their bodies or developing other aspects of their bodies since they aren't playing other sports. Players are more fragile because no one wants to let them rest. Same thing is going on with young pitchers in baseball.
jamesmarhen that’s another good point thanks