We need to reset democracy | Max Rashbrooke | TEDxAuckland
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- Our current democratic system is like a twentieth-century computer trying to run twenty-first century programmes. We need to upgrade our system, drawing on our untapped abilities as citizens. Things like citizens’ assemblies and crowdsourcing laws are the way of the future - mechanisms that allow us, as ordinary individuals, to step up and take a much more direct role in discussing the issues and shaping the big political decisions that affect our lives. Max Rashbrooke is the J. D. Stout Fellow at Victoria University of Wellington, and has written extensively on issues of economic inequality and democratic renewal. The author of multiple books, including Government for the Public Good: The Surprising Science of Large-Scale Collective Action, he is a regular commentator in domestic and international media. You can find him at maxrashbrooke.org.nz and @MaxRashbrooke on Twitter. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
His plan to draw up 100 citizens that perfectly represent the public according to some third party presumably chosen by the government just sounds like extra steps to get representatives that are even less connected to the people.
@ Ethan Mann : How so?
Agreed. The selection process of those 100 would never be completely transparent. You could try completely random, but even then: who controls the computer program that spits out the people? Google? I think these ideas are good starters but as they stand, they're doomed from the start
Agreed, that system is far to open to abuse.
Catherine the great had a lot of conversations with enlightenment thinkers, Diderot, Rousseau, Voltaire and Montesquieu,... and when Catherine became Czar, she brought together the nobility, the mercantile class and the peasantry. The short of it… the first gathering ended in a draw, mainly because the peasantry did not want political ‘voice’ as much as they wanted life’s basic necessities... and the nobility and the rich merchants, knew that any form of equalization was not to their advantage , and did their damnedest to subvert the process, which they accomplished.
Every institution and institutional reform is subject to human behavior. Robert Sapolsky’s lectures on neuroendocrinology and his book, Behave, is a must study before bringing Them together with Us!
Otherwise it’s a waste of time and resources...
“The spirit of the laws “
The soul taste so much delight in dominating other souls, even those who love, the good love themselves so strongly, that there is no one who is not so unfortunate as to still have reason to doubt his own good intentions, and in truth, our actions depend on so many things, that it is 1000 times easier to do good, then to do it well. - Montesquieu 6.28. 41. Virtue versus intelligence.
They keep talking about the great “Reset.”
"The Final Solution"
It's really an economic reset. We're headed towards a cashless society based on social credits that you earn for "desirable behavior."
4th industrial revolution /technocracy / digital control of the worlds resources / artificial age
@@fuckyougeorgebush Unfortunately you are absolutely right. When the braindeads wake up, it will be too late.
@@fuckyougeorgebush Our behavior is nobody's business unless it harms others physically.
In an ideal world I believe that this system may perhaps work. However we do not live in an ideal world and that puts severe limits on what is realistic. Our world is becoming increasingly complex so that it becomes impossible for an individual to have enough knowledge about every topic to make an objective decision. The big Problems in our world have become so complex that oftentimes their solutions require concessions in the short run to make things better in the long run. Making those kinds of decisions is something that humans inherently aren't prepared for unless specifically trained for. That's why I think it is more sensible to have experts in charge instead of having democratic votes on topics.
I agree that something needs to change about the current way we do politics, but this isn't the solution I'd go for. It is even more vulnerable to failure and manipulation than our current system.
@Gee Santini Being an expert in one particular field doesn't make you capable of making good decisions in others. Sure, certain ways to approach problems might carry over into different fields, but you will rarely make a sensible decision unless you dedicate time to fully understanding a problem. Only experts on the particular topic should be able to influence decision making or policy.
The Problem really is: who gets to select these experts so that they are actually unbiased?
@Gee Santini so you claim you know as much about interior design, music or gender studies as people who dedicated years of their lives studying it? How is it different from other highly specialised careers? You don't listen to music frequently? You don't want to have people look into gender inequality? Your comment is not very well thought through.
@Gee Santini You know nothing, Jon Snow
Over population...
@@jameskulevich8907 If the social system cannot give a proper education to everyone it doesn't mean that there's an over population! It only means that the educational system is no longer relevant.
Firstly, I know of no country in the world that operates under an real democratic system. At best, those that claim to be democracies are elected oligarchies. Secondly, the rich have accumulated most of the power and most of the money in the world and are not to give it up without a fight. People love to flap their gums about what needs to change but here's the thing, it won't without a great deal of death and suffering. To the rich, too much is never enough and you cannot get rid of that mind set without removing the people who cling to it.
Kill the old money and it's just the nouveau riche to replace them, nothing changes only the changing of the guard your revolutionaries become the new monarchy. History repeats and we keep expecting the same methods will produce different results, insanity.
There's nothing wrong with democracy as long as it's used properly..he referred to democracy issues by giving examples of countries with totally different political systems such as monarchy and dictatorship! They are aiming at democracy which is the only power that people have!
»Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.«, Churchill said once. As a political late bloomer I often wondered why we don’t at least try alternative interpretations of democracy. Now Max Rashbrooke suggests that we bring democracy to a new level. What a wise man!
How about we start by quoting correctly. Churchill never said that. And when he said what you are referring to he meant something different. But it's okay I guess because nearly everyone gets this one wrong....
im shocked about the contents of the comment section, even by the known low standarts. It's a great speech and a needed change of social organisation. we NEED an upgrade to democracy.
True, but this is not the solution. If you have a majority vote on issues that only impact minorities it will almost always be to their detriment if anyone else has to make concessions. These days problems have become so complex that they need a very detailed knowledge of context and background to come up with an actually useful solution. You need to be an expert on the topic, and that is something that by definition doesn't apply to the masses.
Democracy does not guarantee equality of conditions. It only guarantees equality of opportunity.
I’m right there with you in agreement. Democracy promotes equal opportunities. You’re right. It does not guarantee equality of outcomes.
Democracy does not need to be revamped. We need enforce, uphold, and defend the policies we already have in place. This needs to be done equally and everyone needs to be held accountable to the exact same standard. Especially our politicians. If you’re a politician, you should be held to a higher standard and your behavior needs to be beyond reproach. In the US, some of our politicians are corrupt (Democrats) and want to fundamentally destroy our constitution.
Besides, trying to make sure equality of outcomes comes about doesn’t coincide with human nature. Not everyone will be a doctor. Not everyone will be a lawyer. Not everyone will be a president. It is your responsibility as a human being, responsible for their own life, to get in where you fit in and figure out what you’re going to do to make a living. It’s not the responsibility of ANY government to do this for you.
Why can’t democracy decide a minimum standard of conditions for citizens. Democracy just means it’s up to us.
Cody Berrier
You are right. To a degree. Democracy can lead to mob rule. Tyranny through votes.
But the Government of the US (and most democratic countries) is not a pure democracy. It’s a Constitutional Republic with a representative democracy for the sake convenience.
The world hasn’t t seen pure democracy since the Greeks. In a pure democracy, citizens can vote on anything. Anything! Case in point: Socrates was made to drink hemlock and executed for the charge of “corrupting Greek youth with his dangerous ideas”. In a Constitutional Republic, where church and state are separate as well as having protected free speech, government executing someone over such a charge is unheard of. In a Constitutional Republic, there are rules, policies, and procedures kept in check by the different branches of government. In the US we have the people first, then the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of government to make sure one branch doesn’t end up with more power than the other.
Before you start talking about democracy, please go somewhere and learn the different forms of government that have been used through history. Your explanation is an oversimplification. My guess is that you don’t actually know the various systems of different governments.
Do you know what any of these terms mean?
1. Constitutional republic
2. Anarchy
3. Colonialism
4. Communism
5. Socialism
6. Federalism
7. Meritocracy
8. Oligarchy
9. Republicanism
10. Monarchy
11. Theocracy
These are just a few. When you have a thorough understanding of various governments, get back to me. Your ignorance is showing.
@@leroyjenkins4811 : Studies show that conservatives are afraid of change. But a look at your comment is enough to prove that about you.
America was not founded on fear and a desire to maintain the status quo. quite the opposite in fact. Of you don't know this, then please study history finally.
@Cody Berrier : _"Democracy ALWAYS leads to COMMUNISM!!!"_ First I've ever heard that one. Care to provide a reputable source, or at the least elaborate even a tiny bit on why you believe this? Regardless, there is a major flaw in your argument anyway: there is no democracy that you could even use as an example.
“People do not decide to become extraordinary. They decide to accomplish extraordinary things.
Rk,
Need more people talking about it
I miss when Ted talks were about bettering yourself and society and not destroying society
Status quo working great for you, huh?
Everything eventually rots, nations and government are no exceptions.....
Roman empire doesn't exist today despite it's long rule and history....
I believe however, that it's not the time. Younger generations would still able to fix our problems, and learn from our mistakes...
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@John Picotte : And yet you have utterly failed to make any argument against the speaker, regardless of the validity of your claim. I find it disturbing that people would so blindly agree with such an obviously empty comment.
The United States is a Representative Democracy not a pure democracy
Constitutional Republic
@@Khorton014 To the republic for which it stands. These people just love to change things don't they?
I belive what matters is to "vaccinate" the population against the massive lies that reach them.
We all want freedom of speech but at this rate it will be our undoing.
With freedom comes an equal amount of responsibility for the freedom of others.
When some say their freedom of comfort is more important than the freedom of others to live,
then there can be no reasonable doubt who is the problem.
Freedom of speech is disappearing. The operators of social media platforms quickly censor posts they disagree with and revoke the credentials of the people they disagree with.
Back in history the punishment was death for stealing a horse. It was harsh because the crime was so easy to do. The media has a big responsibility and I think a similar punishment is in order for purposely misleading the voters.
You can't trust polling companies, and you can't base this on only 100 people. That is not even close to a representative in a country of 350 million. That might be a good number for 100,000. But no more. And then you're going to train them with which teachers? Right or Left or Centrist ideologically? Your citizen council happens already in the US. They are called city council meetings; few show up for them. They take to much time and effort for anyone with a job. That is why representatives are elected in the first place. For the USA, our founders are smarter than you. They knew that man is at its essential self is greedy. They based our system on that basis. Like it or not, that is man's nature. He will do what is best for him. There are a few who will sacrifice for others, but few, not most. You can not base a system based on how the minority will react. So thank you for your input, but you need to go back to studying this.
My dream is to be a “TED talker” ! Most of the TED talks inspires me so so much. I am Colombian and listen mostly to the Spanish ted talks! It’s a shame the are not new videos in Spanish :(
We need to reset Democrats.
Cheers
Power Of Crowds
A group of individual persons of different perspectives of a specific function are powerful enough to find an answer to a given problem or question.
People in your neighborhood should solve the problems in your neighborhood, not the town council. Town meetings & referendums should deal with city-wide problems, not the county. The county should take care of county- wide problems, not the state. The state should deal with the state's challenges, not the federal government. The federal government should provide military protection to all the states and a currency for internal & foreign commerce, and that's all. If people are made responsible at the local level for local issues, they have to communicate & work together & compromise for the good of the community, people you are going to be living next to for a long time & need to get along with. This builds trust in one's neighbors, which is the foundation of a cooperative & stable society. Bring decision-making down to the local level as much as possible. That's the way to turn around & simplify a society that has become so complex as to be inhumane & unlivable.
Rule over ourselves individually in order to shape the collective
Sounds like a sentence from a chinese fortune cookie.
@@FreezVy it's always the overlooked simplicity that brings the most freedom...another cookie for you😂😂😂
You'd be surprised by how many people in the world are incapable of that. They NEED institutions to discipline them and tell them what to do and think.
@@ofAwxen 🔥 true
The problem with your concept is the same as has been every time it was tried in the past. Instead of individual freedom it leads to democratic tyranny.
Yeah, there are no checks and balances against tyranny of the majority. Let's go representative republic! Electoral college for the win!
I think he's arguing here for a change to the legislative body rather than the entire government. You could adapt a lot of the changes he mentions and keep the checks and balances of a constitutional system. That being said, I don't think it's a great idea
Where was this 100 representatives thing tried before? I thought he made it up.
It’s far too late. Democracy is DOA.
The earliest form of democracy was in bharatha not Athens...
The clan of yadavas was run, not by a monarch, but by a team of kshatriyas who were selected for the task and were in constant communication with ppl and the learned unlike today
Thank you for sharing
Random fact
Dogs and cats, like humans, are either right-handed or left-handed.
-The Shades
Thanks the shades
"..police state"? U mean like USA? I doubt it...lol
Most of the Cuban problems derive from US sanctions not socialism.
@@arthurq7843 All of them. The USA has got it in a chokehold with embargos and stuff and libs are blaming communism for it's blue face.
Promoting an educated public participation in all political decisions.
sounds like common sense.
By taking a glance at that comment section you'll learn that it sadly isn't...
The upgrade we need to make is to switch to score-based ballots, replacing the winner-take-all system. That would give us more information about people's needs, as well as solve the growing problem of political polarization by making independent candidates actually viable.
Umm NO!
@@ranbymonkeys2384 And why not?
@@vu4y3fo846y we have the electoral collage so new york and california don't end up choosing the president for the country. The popular vote winning style is what you are referring I believe and it's not a good idea.
@@ranbymonkeys2384 The electoral college is not the problem, we can still keep that. The problem is how our winner-take-all elections traps us in the two-party system, which is too polarized to actually represent us.
We can still preserve the representation of rural states by giving their votes more weight, but we have to open up the field to third party candidates in a viable way. That requires we end the "spoiler effect", and that requires we vote differently.
@@vu4y3fo846y Well you either want to make the country better or you don't. Half of our population wants to move to better things the other half, well they are out burning it down as I type this.
We dont even have a representative democracy like in UE like in EEUU. First lets get that
_"There is nothing to fear, but fear itself."_ -JFK
Meaning that fear is what creates hatred.
Aylbdr Madison It was not JFK who said “There is nothing to fear but fear itself”; it was Franklin D Roosevelt.
The hatred is where again?
@@marymarsella9050 : "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself", is often attributed to FDR. Although he actually said this "So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself -- nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance." JFK paraphrased it.
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There is no pandemic there is a plandemic.
Good luck convincing politicians lol
Perfect timing
4:20 We have “every day democracy.” You do it every day when you decide where to shop and what to buy. People, be careful, you don’t know what you’re got until it’s gone.
What does going shopping has to do with anything? We do not have every day democracy. I'd say most first world countries don't have proper democracy at all.
Any opinion on this 👇 idea guys???
Just put specially trained and knowledgable people as representatives in parliament (selected from each small part of country through transparent common examination system) who can really run country ; instead of putting our future in hands of people who are driven by personal motto/greed and chosen by public just because it was 'less bad' amongst other worst candidate..
It feel like in today's democracy, there is no choice for public anyways bcz available candidates for election are no different than each other.
In short, replace democracy and not reset it!
WHY do we need war??
Let’s war
For economic reasons.
The world doesn't
Because leftists love wars!
Don't fight anyone then, let anyone in your house and let them take whatever they want and do whatever they want to anyone living there.
The comments below are just lame. They lack faith and reflect people who are easily persuaded to give up. Doesn’t have to be this way.
We have to reset our own drive
And how are WE supposed to do that? Too many people and half of them don't even care/don't even think of changing the easiest things. Or don't have the power/money/will to do so.
Well that was very Aquarian age-esque.
Of course it's in Auckland with this narrative!
It is really great channel. 👍
This is how you do politic in New Zealand? xd
You can guess... Their Prime Minister was the president of the International Union of Socialist Youth in 2008. A hardcore Communist.
@@decalco1373 i wanted to write, that he seems to be a Lenin of XXIst century
We need to recognize we can't give rights to groups of people that no individual has. There, government is fixed.
Stop watching T E D
sad what they have become
Ted needs to do a video about ecosia they are a search engine that plants trees with their profits
His plans does not address the corruption exercised by the money powers over the media and professional politicians.
“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes… Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” - Napoleon Bonaparte, Emperor of France, 1815
A possible solution : “The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity.” -Abraham Lincoln NOW WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY, WHY NOT USE SOME GOOD SENSE, AND USE IT TO BENEFIT AS ALL ?
Yes I agree democracy needs to be changed!
Love all the commenting *about* democracy - but "I *am* showing up" is a way more active citizenry than armchair commentary. It's not enough to hope someone does it for you; you - YES YOU! - must get involved. Do it. So something; it all counts.
Central conservative truth is that culture, not politics will determine success of society.
Central liberal truth is how politics can change the culture and save it from itself. David Patrick Moynihan
I just want to feel hope again....
"I'm not getting what I want, so we should upend the entire system" We get it dude, you want the majority to be able to dictate to the rest.
You miss an important point. Coalition is the best way to have a large section of the population’s interests served. If you always vote by majority, the majority will run away with all power. Direct Democracy is not capable to reach coalition decisions that do something for all members of the coalition. Direct Democracy lacks the coalition deal making capability. To negotiate a deal that is somewhat attractive for many members of the coalition.
That's just untrue, most European countries run on direct democracy and manage just fine coalition making. It's almost as if it's really hard to conceive and make democracy work with only two political parties...
@@MangezDesPommes Direct Democracy is that voters decide on every item by itself. A referendum on every decision. That is not a matter of opinion, it is the definition of direct democracy. All European countries have parliaments, that is called representative democracy. Rashbrooke suggests a people’s parliament with off the street selected members. Either they decide on a per issue basis, which overrepresents a simple majority, or they negotiate this one goes our way and that one goes your way. That is coalition and represents a larger section of the electorate. But then you have recreated the parliamentary democracy, with off the street people.
Is Democracy even in the constitution?
Please have a look sharia law.
لا إله إلا الله.
كلمة التوحيد وكلمة الإخلاص وكلمة الفوز بالجنة هي كلمة النجاة من النار لا إله إلا الله.
Ikr
We don't speak araic
@@syedahamed2362 but they do...
Who?????
How about you translate??
First lol. To a Ted talk? Wow.
I'm second
Same here 😆
Bronze
A superwow
I like this idea a lot and hope we can improve our democracy.
I think the big problem now is that people don t feel envolved, and also when asked for improvements of their working, living etc.., no improvements are coming their way, this should change. I think and hope if there are problems, there will always be even more solutions .
H o p e
You are very best knowledgeable and good speaking.
To you to great 💓
Fantastic channel, inspiring.
The Russian sympathizers have entered the comments section.
Hello comrade
Lol what does all of this have to do with russians? I am one myself so I'd very much like to know
@@dotjason8087 There are a few spambots in the comment section posting offensive/polarizing things purposely. Nothing to do with real Russians. I guess people are used to call them Russian Bots even if to be fair we have no way of knowing what they really are. American, Chinese, Russian or even Italian could be anything. Probably not Italian though.
Hope you have a great night!
@@MangezDesPommes Thanks for clearing it up! Guess I'll go get some sleep now 😪
@@dotjason8087 : Hey, I think it sucks that so many people fail to understand that most humans in the world just want peace and prosperity. We could all have it too if we worked as a team. But the wealthy elite have been infecting us with all sorts of bigotry for thousands of years. How else could about 0.0001% control 99.999%?
Read Animal Farm.
How will they be able to do that?
A gathering like that would avoid the typical two-party system alignments before the meeting starts. It could devolve to that as long as people identify with a party at all.
Re-elect president Trump 2020!
Democrats 2020!
The irony here is incredible.
@Sei Flavius Already lost.....control is now in the hands of the wealthy corporate elite.
@Sei Flavius : Read the comments, most of them are so desperate they're finally fully admitting they want a dictatorship now. Next thing you know, they might even start admitting to being white supremacists and possibly nazis. But yea, frankly I don't think they have the sacks to be so honest.
What’s democracy again?
Today I posted my fist TH-cam video. My goal is to motivate the Spanish community 🙏🏼
alguien habla español?
Se
Sip, quieres practicar español?
si se hablar español...........y tu?
yeeiii
Can't wait till this happens!
I dont like your emphasis on technology - community involvment yes - and your way of questioning democracy - yes democracy is a delicate system that requires on going maintenance otherwise we get more oligarchy like our present society.
What you leave out is the causes of present society/democracy disfunction.
This is all to do with Davos, the few people who own the commercial world - wealthy families, corporations, private banks - who wish to 'reset' the world with according to 'their wishes' a feudal slavery system.
The 99% must reject that Davos system absolutely. Here you have a group of people who are mainly responsible for the present disfunction, who's value system is profit at any cost, human life and the planet are ignored or at best on the extreme fringe.
There are economic/ecology systems that will provide the world with 'democracy' that we all must demand, and yes representative democracy is important but so is community involvment and democracy at every level, such as democratic workplaces for example, public central banks, science and putting humans and planet first.
A common society agreement on the value system we must pursue and not the political/economic strangle hold of the wealthy and corporates.
Sounds VERY totalitarian to me.
Listen at half speed to make him sound drunk.
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All votes should come with a logical reason for your decision. Failure to comprehend the issue verso your vote. One house one level. Tv channel devoted to political issues. All vote by ballot, phone , in person. It's an easy process...so why in the 21st century....
You can thank the FAKE news for not informing the populous. Owned by Progressive socialists
Fixing democracy and polarisation by bringing people together again. I am skeptical, but also hopeful, I certainly hope we'll move towards this solution, else I dont see anything but democracy falling further apart happening.
What is this tripe that appeared as a recommended video? This is horrifying
I'll do it
Never been so early before
No we don’t - we need to stop outsourcing and offshoring.
"I don't understand even the most basic economic theory" - You
Imagine Ted talks riding the bandwagon.. Sad
It’s just unrealistic
Reset Democrats!
It's more than telling that you guys are dead set against freedom and democracy.
Pourquoi en anglais merde je comprend rien !!!!!
In the US we don’t need a reset, we need term limits.
*Democracy is impossible in terms of capitalistic system. Capitalism is the power of money not the people.*
This comment should be pinned!
Capitalism is the purest form of democracy. You buy something or you don't buy it. Each purchase is a vote.
@@fuckyougeorgebush It's directly opposite. It's capitalism that allows your employer to appropriate the results of your labor. Even a corporation with thousands of workers and multibillion profits could belong to one single owner that takes everything and gives crumbles to his workers as a wage.
Communism is all about public ownership of *means of production* only! If you created something for your personal use than it's your *personal property* that noone cares about... use it as you want.
@@mattlaw1350 During the Great Depression people did not buy anything as they had no money. According to your logic they democratically voted for starvation.
@@arthurq7843 They did vote for starvation without realizing it. They voted for a government that manipulated the economy thereby creating an unbalanced market.
You need a better system try the elitist one with real elite who command specialiste in all domaines
BS or ferrytale, the question is now!?!
You've failed to make any point whatsoever, other than: _me no likey._
@@aylbdrmadison1051 No, I am very interested in man's speech, and I am in favor of his ideas. From my point of view, big problem with his ideas aren't ideas itself, than probability of putting those ideas into reallity, into real life of real citizens...
Aye
BLM Talks
Yes
All racists are delusional hypocrites.
This does not go far enough for my liking.
It doesn't go far enough deliberately. If it did, he'd have to tell us how his idea completely falls apart!
the best way to dictatorship
TedX gone NWO? 🖕🖕
been
ياالله الحمد الله
Expect nothing less from a Brit.
@ jumper jay :
Vote Trump and MAGA.
Reject "democracy"
Return to monarchy
Based.
عربي ما نبغا أنقلش 🌚☕️
Skit hdidwan...
nordine talbi وش قاعد تقول
Yes, let's keep going on this same path....continuing into 3rd world status.
???? Social distancing in Auckland Oct 2020???
Wow I dind't know americans ran on 18th century software. I'm lying no one is surpised.
Edit: It's quite scary actually an entire country seems to have lost the ability to think. Something to do with the water maybe ?
*sigh. No, we have not all lost our minds, only the racists among us, and that is of course inevitable because to prop up such a delusion, one can only use other delusions. This phenomena left unchecked can lead to full on insanity. But, you are now being a nationalist, witch is essentially the same as racism, genderism, ageism, or any other form of bigotry.
Lol
Jesus is the answer. We're almost to sodom and gomorrah.