Increase Top Speed to 85 MPH and Correct Speedometer Error on New GTS 300 HPE 2020
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- Increase the top speed to 85 MPH and correct speedometer error on your new GTS 300 HPE 2020
Featuring part # GTS-HPE-SPEED
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Get 8% more speed out of your new 2020 HPE GTS Engine. Replace the rear ABS tone wheel with this item, no longer will you have the 75 MPH top speed limit, now will be over 81 MPH. Requires recalibration of the ASR system.
HPE ASR SYSTEM CALIBRATION PROCEDURE 2018-later GTS
In order to maintain the effectiveness of the ASR system following the replacement of one or both tires a calibration procedure of the system must be performed as follows on a straight flat stretch of road.
- After the key ON, ride a short distance above 5 km/h and wait for the flashing of the ABS warning light and ASR icon to stop: the diagnostic phase of the ASR and ABS systems is finished.
- Stop the vehicle and leave the engine running at idle speed for at least 3 seconds.
- Turn the ASR system off by pressing the ASR button on the handlebar and check that the ASR disabling icon stays on steady.
- Press simultaneously the right brake lever, the engine start-up button and the ASR on/off button for at least 4 seconds.
- Then press the ASR button for at least 3 seconds. The activation process will be confirmed by the ASR icon will be slowly flashing.
- Accelerate to a constant speed of 18 mph (30 km/h) and maintain it for at least to 10 seconds.
- The end of the procedure will be indicated by the ASR icon turning off.
- Once the procedure is complete, turn the ignition switch to «OFF», wait at least 30 seconds for the next key «ON». In case of failure to complete the procedure within 2 minutes the ASR icon will stay on steady and the ASR will remain off until the next key «OFF».
- To restart the ASR, it is necessary to turn the key to «ON», and repeat the procedure until getting the positive result. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Thanks for the awesome comment. We're glad to pass along some knowledge, learn from others, and share our love for Vespas! Thanks for watching!
I agree!
Agreed ...brilliant videos guys, always top notch. The go to location for any info for me on Vespa work !
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Love how you guys included the full sequence of steps to calibrate the abs system in the description. That move, is Designer approved as is this clip. ❤️🛵🤖
I just did the installation, great upgrade, speedo finally correct, thanks for content.
Did you replace it front and rear?
Another Helpful and Informative Video!
Long story, I bought a 2019 Vespa Super Tec 300 HPE [high performance engine] for batting around. There is a "tonewheel" on the back wheel which sends a signal to the ABS and as a rev limiter for the back wheel. It also send a signal to the speedo. You can buy, from Germany, an upgraded tonewheel which allows for a higher top speed and a more accurate speedo. [Not for sale in Germany though] I took the back wheel out and tried to remove the 5 allen cap button head screws. No way could I move them. I had actually read that Vespa puts the screws in with really vicious locktite because they didnt want anyone to change the tonewheel. Well, I first rounded the internel hex, I then cut a slot with a small disc grinder and cutting wheel and tried moving the screws with an impact driver, all the while using heat as per "Robot" in the hope of getting the screws to move, nothing happened other than shearing off the heads! But, nothing scares me, I was an Engineer on Super Tankers and South African to boot. Nothing, but nothing scares us! I had to deflate the tyre so that I could clamp the back wheel into my Drill Mill and I machined the screw out and cleaned everything up with a 6mm tap, tomorrow I will go out and buy 5 more button head allan cap screw and use a more gentle locktite. We shall overcome!
Great idea!!! But I think I found something even better for my Sei Giorni: I put the rear tire (not the rim!) to the front, and installed a bigger tire in the back. Michellin makes 140/70/12 tires which fit nicely into the rear. Same effect, but even better driving stability!
Thanks for all your amazing videos!!!!
Great option! How is that working out for you so far?
@@alonsogalvez555 Extremely well. Handling in curves and potholes is excellent, top speed increased by 4 mph, the whole scooter feels a lot more mature. Make sure you switch the back tire to the front (with rim), and in the back you install the 14/70/12. Have fun!
What about fuel consumption?
@@franck1685 Check your tire direction if you switch it with the rim to the front. The tires thread in the front and rear are different
@@tkp1212 Good advice! Thx
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bravo ! ottima soluzione ...
Hi Robot. I was looking for such upgrade. I am riding 2016 Vespa Primavera 150cc iget and it does max. of 68 mph. Can I use the same parts and instructions for getting the top speed? If not please advice.
Thank you and stay safe!
That is whyat i needed! I noticed my vespa did loose speed at the end. its like something would cut my igniton off. it was very annoying.
Man, thanks for this. But how and where to find this part in Europe?
Is it available at the SIP Scootershop? Can you hint me?
Thanks and god bless u all for this content.
So are the holes in the tone ring 10% larger than the stock ones proportionately to get the 10% reduction in reported speed?
Reason I ask is I need to modify wheel speed on the front wheels on a race car I'm building, where I'm running a larger diameter rear wheel and need to "slow down" the front.
Why do I not live down the street from your shop instead of on the West Coast of Florida?
Why is it your shop on the West Coast of Florida instead of San Diego?
These and other questions plague me every time I see one of your videos
it would be great to be in there, having you take care of my Vespas
if only life were that simple
thanks for another great video
Well at least you can imagine you are here by watching our videos. You can even pretend to be Robot while working on your own scooter!
Wow Robot I am speechless great video
I will absolutely be doing this on my 1st tire change.
Robot. What a cool upgrade. Why did the factory want to limit the top speed to 75 ?
Probably to limit rpm and reliability. Not sure the fix is good on long term
Ever heard of death?
Genius part.
Hi Robot, did you test it on 2021 gts 300 HPE model? will it works?
Hi bro, do you recommend assembling this tone wheel? Does it really work?
Hey Robot you do a great job man.Actually do I solve this problem just by putting 13 inch wheels on or I still have to buy this disk?
If you install 13” wheels the speedometer error is eliminated. You are going as fast as it shows.
This upgrade is definitely happening. I'm interested to know if I drive daily for 5 or 6 miles at 70+/*mph on the freeway, am I shortening the life of my HPE300 engine on my Supertech? I'd rather not purchase a maxi as well as a GTS, but am I lopping years off its life?
You should be totally fine, granted you keep up with all your scheduled maintenance and just keep an eye on all your fluids etc. We have many customers and employees that freeway commute on their 300's daily. You should have no problem doing 5-6 miles.
Could You compare traction control, ABS and acceleration on stock GTS 300 HPE and with Kübler Speedwheel ABS ring fitted? Please!!!
Question? Why would Vespa cut the speed from 85 mph to 78 mph? In Texas I've heard of 85 mph in the western part of the state 🏁
Hi robot, love your videos , watched you put a malossi belt and rollers on a bv 350 and would like to put one on mine. But can’t find a video for a 300 ie bv 2018 ie so is it the same as the 350 bv . Thanks from John from England .
We only have the 350 in the States right now, but the steps should be pretty much the same for the job. Also look at any of the Vespa 300 videos where we doa similar job. Besides the body work, the engine architecture is very similar. Just make sure you get the correct replacement parts for your model. Hope this helps, and thanks for watching!
I admire Robot and have bought several parts from Scooterwest (which btw has great customer service) that work great. I've also used his how to videos successfully. But a flat rear tire replacement gave me a reason to purchase and have this part installed by a reputable dealer but I found no difference in performance. I don't know if the speedo is more accurate (which is really why I purchased it-I don't intend to go anywhere near the bike's top speed except to test it) but I went on the Interstate to test the top end speed and when the speedo approached about 79 mph, the '22 300gts bucked and lost power exactly as it did with the factory installed tone ring. Maybe I'm missing something in the explanation. The indicated speed might be more accurate because several times I was on different roads where cars ahead seemed to be going at exactly the speed limit which is what my speedo was indicating.
@Vespa Motorsport , if I understand this correctly the ABS will kick in later or earlier due this part? Or did the producers programmed it als correctly in the disk?
Interesting.. I thought this would cause imbalance.. Do you change both speed sensor disc
Thanks robot
Thank you for watching!
questa operazione vale anche per GTS IE SUPER 2018? grazie Claudio
Tijuana´s hat Nice!
Does this apply to 2021 models as well?
I was looking at this part number, which applies only up to 2022. Does it look like one is needed to increase speed for 2023s and anyone hearing about release timing?
I have a 2012 GTS 300 super . Can the top speed be increased on it? Or is it 2015 onward ones?
Can you do a Dino test with this part. Has it been tested at all? I'm asking cause I'm very interested. It seems an inexpensive part to improve the performance of your bike, compered to Alosis or other parts? I'm puzzled, thanks.
Haven't Dynoed it yet, but check out our previous video comparing the old GTS to the new HPE. The HPE's top speed is limited by the computer coming from the rear wheel sensor. All this part does is trick the computer and actually gives you a more accurate speed ready on your Speedo as well. Stay tuned for more updates on this...
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Is it an official piaggio product? If not won’t it effect warranty claims? I know someone who got their knuckles rapped by Piaggio for fitting one on there daily test scooter.
Fitting a Speedwheel may well invalidate your warranty
Did you replace it front and rear?
Hi i have a vespa gts super 125cc 2018 model. How dibi recalibrate as i do not have an asr button. I tried holding brake and start button but nothing happens?
But did you wash your hands first?? Actually- curious if this is doable on an older GTS 300? Thanks.
This is only intended for the HPE models. Thanks for watching!
do you post these to UK Please
I did it on a euro4 HPE, no cutting out at top speed but no improvement in the actual top speed either, could not get it past 75mph, even crouched down, unless dowhill. Overall pretty disappointed with the hpe performance, especially in higher speeds, hard to believe in the 24hp, mine was broken in at almost 6000miles as well. Many large scooters pull all the way to the top, and reach 85 easily, where the HPE starts to be really sluggish around 65mph. Therefore it is also pretty unsafe at highway speeds because you cant really get out of the way. Ended up selling mine mostly for the lack of top end reserve, also quite a gas goppler, does launch pretty well but not that much better.
how about on the 2016 Vespa GTS 300 Super Sport SE ABS?
What if you fit this on a 2018 Euro4 Gts?
Would this be available on a royal alloy gp300?
Does this work with the 2020 supertech iget 125?
Hy Robot, how is an older model limited? A M641 EU 2010 300ie model. Mine either at 9000rmp or 124km/h on the clock, so about 115km/h for real.
I installed the ABS overdrive tone wheel on my 2020 GTS 300 hpe Notte. Prior to the mod, my scooter would reach ~85 MPH and the speed sensor would kick in and the engine would decelerate. After installing the tone wheel, the maximum speed is 79 MPH and the speed sensor never kicks in. I am guessing that the speedometer was not accurate prior to the modification, so by changing the ABS overdrive tone wheel, the speedometer is reading accurately now.
That's exactly correct. This will "trick" the computer and make it so the rev limiter won't kick on so early and will give you a much more accurate speed reading. The Vespa speedos have always been notoriously optimistic. Thanks for chiming in with your experience. Thanks for watching!
Hey Robot can you do a review on The Genuine Royal Alloy plzzzz! 🙏🏻
We've got one filmed and ready to go. We're just waiting for Robot to do a test ride on it. Stay tuned!
Vespa Motorsport you guys really are the best 💯
Can you make Vespa do 100 mph with such simple mods(without open motor or impact reliability and dependability)?
My GTS 300 used to do 85 mph now it only runs 70 and it only has 6,000 miles what do you suppose is the problem
Can I use the part feature in my 2022 GTS hpe ?
Is this still valid for a 2021 GTS 300?
Do the 2022s have this problem?
Great mod👍🏻 But is the calibration procedure the same for the non super tech models?
Yes, same procedure. Thanks for watching!
I am still unclear... does the new "GTS-HPE-SPEED" part correct the speedometer error, or the "HPE ASR SYSTEM CALIBRATION PROCEDURE", or both together?
I am not interested (well a little) in increasing my top speed, just correcting the 5 to 7 MPH difference of actual speed on the road.
I have been clocked doing 5 to 7 MPH under what the speedometer states.
The tone wheel part is what actually corrects the speedo error. You have to re calibrate the ASR regardless, any time you remove the rear wheel.
@@VespaMotorsport: Hope my local east coast shop can perform the removal/install. I definitely do not want to take a torch to my wheel.
Update complete. Success! Speedo error fixed, and top speed increased.
Thanks Vespa Motorsport and Robot for showing this.
I have a 2016 GTS 300 how can I increase my torque and acceleration?
What would you get with this and a 140/70/12 rear tyre ?
I believe it will be the same due to the ECU limit by factory. Just my 5 cents, I’m not a certified Vespa tech.
What else does this affect? Does it accelerate slower? (Presumably, your odometer will move more slowly too.)
Yes, correct on both counts
Will that fit my 2016
Hola saludos desde España, tengo una vespa GTS300 HPE de junio del 2019, llevo montado atrás una 140/70/12 y he montado el disco pero ahora no me marca velocidad y tengo encendidos los testigos fijos de fallo de motor, ASR y ABS. He probado con un gps y la velocidad máxima es 125kmh. Como puedo volver al estado de serie para que me vuelva a marcar la velocidad y volver a tener ASR y ABS activado. Un saludo
Hello greetings from Spain, I have a vespa GTS300 HPE from June 2019, I have a 140/70/12 mounted on the back and I have mounted the disc but now it does not set speed and I have the fixed engine failure, ASR and ABS warning lights on. I have tested with a gps and the maximum speed is 125km / h. How can I go back to the standard state so that my speed can be set again and have ASR and ABS activated again. All the best
If I do not make calibration fixing whats are the results ?
What gona be hapend
Hi, I've installed the speed wheel and confirm that the maximum speed is increased from 121km/h to 128km/h (GPS) whitout windscreen. The tachimeter is now allineate with the GPS.
Hi Giorgio!
I did the same too on my HPE. I changed to Pirelli angel and fitted the disc following by the ASR recalibration.
I got the medium vespa screen on.
I do have noticed true128 km/h according to the GPS.
But the acceleration is slower.....I don't know what else to do....maybe a secondary gear could help?
Did you have controlled the roller weights? The abs wheel don't change the accelerato. My be that the real speed that you now see change the prospective and the sensation
@@giorgio8920 Roller weights remain the same. I got only 9000 km on the speedo/ ready for the 10000 km incoming service.
I don't know my friend. I feel that the acceleration is a little slower than before.
Maybe if I change the belt on the service will see a little bit different sense.
Otherwise I 'll go for a secondary gear.
Is possible that the shape of the roller is unregular by the use and this compromise the prestation. After the 10k control, if is the same, the only solution for get off the dubt is compare with another hpe...
@@giorgio8920 My dear Giorgio, appreciate for your immediate reply and assistance.
That's exactly what I want to do. Awaiting for the 10K in order to check this out, hoping for a positive result...
Cette roue phonique est-elle compatible avec une Vespa GTV Sei Giorni HPE 300 ??
Oui, pour toutes les Vespa 300 HPE
Does that work on a 2020 sei giorni. If so how to correct speedo after install
If it has the HPE motor, it will work. You will need to calibrate the ASR (watch our tire change video linked in this video). There's a detailed instruction on how to do so in the description of this video. The rest is taken care of by the computer. Thanks for watching!
¿What Number of Allen key?
I'm in the UK with a brand new 300 super gts. Can I ask my garage to do that, is it legal (in Europe)? Is it safe? (road safe in Europe). What is the disk called and where do you get it from? You said is German right? Thanks guys. Stay save.
You can purchase one from our website, the link is in the description of this video. We can't really comment on the legality of it, as every country/state will have different regulations. Thanks for watching!
Hello Sir
How about the Vespa SeiGiorni 2ºedition HPE, how can we configure the ABS without ASR?
Thank you
I don't think it has the same toner wheel as the other models do.
Yeah I want to know the same?
ROBOT. How does this affect the ABS brakes. So the wheel speed is being read different for the front and back wheels? Would it make sense to do the front and rear wheels to mirror the wheel speed for ABS function?
No effect on your ABS
hai robot...how can i get it...im from malaysia..
There's gonna be a lineup of people coming to Robot for this $$$
Does this negatively affect breaking performance/ABS at all?
Fitting a Speedwheel may well invalidate your warranty and will have a negative effect on your ABS. Whether it’s worth it or not is up to the individual.
And now Piaggio have apparently issued a statement to uk dealers warning them not to fit them and it voids any warranty claims
Hi will that fit my sei giorni.
If you have the 2020 and later model with HPE motor, it will fit.
Got a vespa sprint 125cc and happy with it but now i want the 300 hmmmmm
Wouldn't be a bad choice!
Would this work on 13" wheels ?
Kuebler also offers a 13' version
@@p.flitzi676 thanx will try it !
ı need mechanic for my motobike in TURKEY.
can you help me about this topic?
Hayir
would it help a 2019 300 SS
This will only work on the HPE models
@@VespaMotorsport Is there anything like this that will work on a 2019 GTS 300 SS
I purchased ABS OVERDRIVE TONE TIMING WHEEL DISC REAR VESPA GTS HPE 2020-2022 ONLY (NOT GTV SEI GIORNI OR 2023/2024 GTS HPE2) and it was installed on the scooter and after that the speedometer did not work and did not read the speed. Is there a solution for this? Bike frame number ZAPMD3104N5001196
Does it possible to be done on Honda Forza 125 2019? Thanks
We don't deal with Honda very often, so can't comment on that unfortunately.