I Tested 70 Nintendo Switch Games - How Many Are Still Version 1.0?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
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One funny thing is that Pikmin 3 Deluxe got a 1.0.1 patch the other week (3 years after release) that changed nothing in the actual game, but only changed the logo on the icon in the home menu.
Guessing that was in relation to both the remasters of 1+2 and 4 coming soon.
@@lokemannen101yeah they changed how the logo looks with 4 and retroactively changed the 3 Deluxe logo to match
With that update it is 1.1.1 for me now? Its interesting that they changed the logo though. I love the consistency.
@@Graxerit's a worse logo though, the old one was much better
The fact Kirby and the Forgotten Land never got any bugfix or patch is, to me, proof of how well constructed the game is (it still has glitches, but nothing gamebreaking from what I know).
Sure, it isn’t always a proof of quality and sometimes updates come because of additional content (which I would have welcomed with open arms for this game !).
However, Forgotten Land definitely felt like a complete and satisfying package to fully complete for me, and I really look forward to a potential follow up of one of my favorite Switch games !
Its extremely overrated, i was very disappointed with forgotten land
@@DrViperVideosIs it something related to the power-ups or something else ? The game might be amazing to me but I acknowledge it’s far from perfect, and I’m interested to know what disappointed you with it if you don’t mind.
Let’s hope the next Kirby game (or the next 3D Kirby) fixes the issues you may have with Forgotten Land ! 🙏
Sold over 6.5 million copies and won Family Game of the Year. Perfection!
Kirby's return to dream land deluxe too
@@jaretco6423 That's true, especially since different people won't have the same viewpoint on what would be "generally" considered to be "the best games". Even my favorite games like Xenoblade 3 and Kirby and the Forgotten Land have aspects that I feel other games in the same series may have done better, though that's why I also love their series so much !
Jon is such a good TH-cam Creator. He makes the videos I want to see
His videos feel so organic. Not what's necessarily popular with YT, but content he genuinely wants to create. Even the videos he produced at NL had a very spontaneous but relaxing nature to them.
I want to see them because he's in it ;3
He makes videos of things I think about, but never thought to see as a video. In other words, he makes videos I didn’t know I needed lol.
+1
And hear too
Just wanted to point out that Bayonetta 1 and 2's patches were to add extra languages into the game, and those were released over 4 years after they released. Bayonetta 2 got a second patch that changes some text in the intro to be different from the first game. So those would probably count as 1.0 with an asterisk. The patches were incredibly minor and released years later
I feel like both Bayonetta and Bayonetta 2 could count as "never patched" given that the update they received only added extra language options.
Edit: I should note that both games were at 1.0 until Sept 2022 when Bayonetta 3 launched.
I think this is an interesting video simply due to the fact we see what games need patches, Day 1 1.0.1 updates, multiple updates, or have DLCs. The fact that Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Fighters 2, and Dream Buffet didn't get patched at all is incredible as it shows that the game is perfect upon release from the viewpoint of the devs and critics.
HAL are just built different
@@twincherries6698was :(
I, for one, hope Jon is never patched. 1.0 Jon forever baby
The best things about the games that never received a day 1 patch is that you don't have to install anything on the Switch's storage. In turn, that gives you more room for other games. Although, I have seen some Nintendo games getting reprints where the latest patch is on the cart; my copy of Xenoblade Chronicles DE is like that.
i just watched a man check 70 nintendo switch on their patch updates for 10 minutes and it was lovely. i deserve nothing
The lesson here, which we all already knew, is that Kirby is literally perfect.
3D Allstars actually got an additional patch a year after it released, where all they did was add in support for the N64 NSO controller in Mario 64
12:19 "you will die at 1.0" I've never received a more threatening compliment
It's an interesting topic to me, basically 1.0 (complete at day one) games are probably the ones that Nintendo had in the pipelines for months, already in gold version, just deciding for a release, like prime 1
worth noting that although alot of these games had patches most are still completely playable without updates straight from the cartridge. nintendo still have a pretty good ethic when it comes to polish, for the most part anyway. even games that have game breaking glitches.alot of the time they are kind of rare to come across even if they exist. i remember there was a game breaking glitch in metroid dread to do with map markers that i completely avoided whilst playing without patches.i quite frequently test games without updates and i basically never come across any bugs in nintendo games
Not to mention that Nintendo also had a very good track record updating their carts at the cartridge level, for instance if you buy a new copy of ARMS now, you will just straight up get the game with all of its DLC directly on the cartridge (It does make it harder to track for collectors and speedrunners though as I don't think the version of the game is written on the box)
@@MathiasWolfbrok yep, you can only be sure until you see the actual cartridge number on the back of the cart
@@MathiasWolfbrokI can back that up, i bought Tropical Freeze in february 2022 and the hotel i was staying at didn't have wifi so i couldn't download patches, but the game was still in version 1.0.1 regardless.
13 minutes of Jon reading out numbers... im in!
I was shocked and impressed when FF7 remake didn't have a day one patch. and it didn't even get a patch for almost a year. It was surprisingly complete with the minor hitches there an there you expect to see from other games its size.
It's not first party but The World Ends With You is still on version 1.0.0! Although it is a port of a remaster (kinda). Which is a slight shame because the joycon controls are questionable, but if we ignore that then perfection doesnt need patching
"You will die on 1.0"
Jon Cartwright, 2023
To add onto the list of Kirby games without any patches, Return to Dream Land Deluxe is still going strong without any post-release updates
For HAL as a whole, Part Time UFO is in the same boat
HAL are the GOATS confirmed!
You didn’t check if Mario 35 had been patched day one, it’s still sitting at 1.0.2
Can they patch the game back into existence?
@@chaoticcraniumpossibly? I mean they patched chocobo gp into a non online game which... considering they shit the servers down actually kept it from just not existing anymore.
y yes he did, at 8:39
@@iwjene9917 Typically when games are 1.0.2 or 1.0.1 he checks if it was patched day one, but he didn’t with Mario 35
Skyward Sword HD had a game breaking bug... For the Dutch version specifically! I encountered it: a completely white screen after defeating the final boss. Didn't load the ending FMV, I assume. The actual Dutch localisation is a joy though!
I can't tell if Jon is looking up the original games' release dates or if he just knows them all off the top of his head
Some Switch games include the patches on later/newer carts. I got a copy of Mario Tennis, Kirby Star allies and astral chain that each have the latest patches on the carts.
Some (not necessarily Nintendo) games from my collection that are still on 1.0.0:
Part-Time UFO
Katamari Damacy REROLL
Langrisser I & II
Bravely Default II
Dragon Quest Builders
Dragon Quest
Dragon Quest II
Dragon Quest III
Wonder Boy Anniversary Collection
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster
The World Ends with You Final Remix
Star Ocean First Departure R
Mega Man Legacy Collection 2
Mega Man X Legacy Collection
Mega Man X Legacy Collection 2
Okami HD
Child of Light
SEGA AGES Sonic the Hedgehog
SEGA AGES Sonic the Hedgehog 2
SEGA AGES Fantasy Zone
Castlevania Advance Collection
Collection of SaGa Final Fantasy Legend
EDIT: Wow I just now realised that literally none of these games are Switch originals lol. Except for Bravely Default II... .. I guess I like ports / remasters, huh!
patches vs content updates / additions should be considered different. I wonder how many of the games that were glossed over due to content updates (mario kart, sports, ect) actually had day-one patches or not, or major patches at all for glitches or stability. Obviously though Nintendo games are often more polished than other major studios.
Now I'm super curious how this compares to the physical games from previous consoles. It certainly wasn't unheard of for carts and disc media to have different versions released over the time it was sold. And I'm not even just talking about how JP would usually be the original, USA would get some fixes, and Europe would have the latest version; I mean that even within a single region like USA there would be revisions to the game released over time. Though the regional release timeline disparities making some regions the most up-to-date / patched is also interesting haha.
Thank you for appreciating me Jon. Ever since I saw that first name that track with Scott and Nitrorad back during the pandemic I've been a fan. Hope you're doing well. I love you.
I appreciate John's speech at the end about how we are all 1.0 and all are perfect, and I get what he means, but the truth is that we all get updated constantly with new knowledge and new life experiences. As my mom once said, you are never today, who you were yesterday, because today you have more experience. So really, counting all the days I've been alive, I would be more like a 1.0.11680 (not counting leapdays).
One more 1.0.0 Nintendo-published game is Go Vacation. Tbf it is a Wii port so not surprised there is no update
John is perfect. No need to update ever
Being able to Hammer Super Jump a year on from Forgotten Land's release is a godsend.
We need more content like this. Thank you John
I just searched it up and the most updated game i found was Neoverse: Trinity Edition with Update 14.42
I think you didn't have Kirby's Return to DreamLand Deluxe, that's also a 1.0.0 game. Again, Kirby is perfect
Now for the harder experiment. How many of these games have updated cartridges that contain the game with the latest update preinstalled.
Exactly was looking for a comment like yours, many shipments later have the patches on the cartridges/box. So the 1.0 versions journey there is a tough one. XD
Nintendo Revised has a spreadsheet list that gets updated with cartridge reprints.
I'm still amazed to this day that 1 2 switch never got a day 1 patch but got a patch later just to add video recording
I'm sure it varies by developer, but I wonder what determines the difference between a 0.0.1 update, a 0.1.0 update, and a 1.0.0 update?
1.0 is usually the release version included in the cart unless it's Pokémon which does not follow that logic (or ethic...).
Usually speaking, 1.0 is release, x.1.x is a relatively major such as a bunch of major fixes, balancing, or adding new stuff such as new languages, extra scenes, maybe performance fix, whatever. And x.x.1 is usually just a very, very minor bug that you would've never seen or realized it exists.
That's usually how Nintendo handles it
@@VagrantValmarYou forgot to address the final part of that query.
Generally speaking, an update that changed the first digit of a version number should be an absolutely huge change to the game. Sometimes it might even fundamentally change the entire experience if playing it, like with Terraria adding an incredible amount of content to the game across all stages of gameplay progression. I don’t remember well enough what was added in which update to go into detail, though.
In Genshin Impact it means the introduction of a new country, along with tons of new music, quests, gameplay mechanics, NPC styles, structures, and the start of the next arc in the main story of the game.
Now I don’t mean to downplay the importance of adding a new character to Smash. I know they have to change a lot to balance the game around the new character, add their stage, music, and various Mii costumes they release at the same time; but that seems like it ought to be a second-digit update to me compared to other games.
That’s just my opinion of course. It could be that’s standard for fighting games’ roster additions, in which case it’s understandable Smash would follow suit.
@@Dash123456789Brawl I get what you're saying but you're wrong when you say it "should be" a huge change.
It really doesn't need to be. That depends on each developer and how they name or number their updates. There's no standard for this. Updates simply fixing a game's bug can be 2.0 if the developer wants to call it that way.
FF7 Remake (PS4 version) only had a couple minor patches and the first one was months after release.
Great video! These are the sort of things I expect and appreciate from GVG!
I know the moral of the story is that sometimes games don't need to get patches day 1 or frequently, but man, I just want a content update for Mario Party Superstars. It doesn't feel like a complete package to me, I just wanna see more.
I love it that we can easily tell when it's a Jon video 😂
That outro was bars 🔥 Jon's experience watching childrens' TV is finally paying off with a moral at the end of the show
I'm still amazed on just how phenomenal Metroid Prime Remastered on the Switch looks and that game originally started from the GameCube version; which was already an great looking game enough. But the remastered made it even better.
I think more gamecube games will have HD version, such as porting luigi's mansion to switch.
12:16 thank you Jon Cartwright from Good vibes gaming! I needed that 🙂
Seems I'm not the only person who noticed this. I would notice it regularly when I look through my games to see if anything needed updating.
6:40 I feel like fixing a game-breaking but should not be considered a "Minor Patch".
But if you consider that, Tropical Freeze, and especially Bayonetta 1 & 2 as I already mentioned, should be counted in that category as well! =P
Sorry Jon, but I'm on Version 1.4.0 of myself. Needed some patches to fix bugs and compatibility with other users.
Bayonetta 1&2 only got language patches for chinese and such. So it still technically counts as a 1.0 for them.
Jon knew that he had to be stopped, so he asked the credits screen to stop him.
Jon! You're in a box!
I love how you have a folder just for Tropical Freeze
the publisher is free to select what numbering the version number gets. It could also be something crazy like "2.5a3f"
Will this video get a patch? A new thumbnail? An update based on a Nintendo game not in the list that you missed? Great find.
Link's Awakening should have been updated more to fix the weird framerate hiccups
Mario Party Superstars and Kirby games are the most impressive products to me because even without minor patches, these games run perfectly fine... well or at least Kirby does.
A Switch won't even load Superstars without day1 patch. How can I tell? Ryujinx.
Jon this video was so good, Good Vibes Gaming might let you out of your foam prison for a few hours.
How about if I put you in the Nintendo Switch Jon? Would you still be Version 1.0? No???? We are all growing and changing as people. Life is a constant flux of growing and maturing.
The majority of Kirby games being on 1.0 just goes to show that HAL are the GOATs of game developers
Haven’t seen the video yet, but just for the title, super great insight, totally unexpected and interesting subject! Great job!
That’s a lot of them!
Sadly John I'm 3.0 I had many bugs 😂😂
an archivists worst nightmare.
I remember Origami King's update well, the bug it fixed was a potential perminant softlock that while I didn't run into, it was easy enough to run into for it to be a problem.
Wasn’t it something like you couldn’t get a toad after a mission
@@zwillscoopchannel9689 Nah, it was when you got access to the passage to the secret hot spring, you could then just leave and the game wouldn't update that you unlocked it and you'd be locked out permanently if you save there.
Wouldn't it be great if all patches/updates for Nintendo Switch 2 had a rule that the developer must allow space on the cartridge for the updates to download onto the original cartridge? And like DS game saves are on the cartridge.
Advance Wars desperately needs an update. While I can live with out it saving during MP sessions is really surprising to not be an option, but having that AND the bug where the game can randomly crash when activating a CO or Super Power is super frustrating.
Don't forget the one where AI Sonja can use any unit as an indirect in certain circumstances
Something very cozy about this video. Would not mind watching more simple videos where y'all just go through games on a list and say random things about them like this lol
Really shows how long they sat on Metroid Prime Remastered without releasing it
Me just now learning that there are folders on the switch. Probably common knowledge
Links Awakening was on Version 1.0 until last year. I checked a bunch of games back then but I don't remember.
Good video idea, that was enjoyable
5:28 There's a Metroid Prime 4 joke in there somewhere
I don't have Mario U Deluxe since I had the Wii U game but it surprised me it hasn't been updated since I heard about the Switch version's awkward "the jump button can be used to spin in midair" thing and how there was a hidden non-menu option fix to turn it off and I assumed it was a bit of a weird fix because it was from a patch... so does that mean Nintendo had always had this unusual fix to the problem, implemented into the game right from the start?? Anyway, awesome and interesting stuff. I knew WarioWare since I played that quite a bunch throughout last year and always noticed the 1.0.0
What the heck? Who put you in that anti noise cage?
NSMBU Deluxe *needs* an update. The final level of New Super Luigi U on Wii U lets you play as your Mii if you use the “Nabbit Code.” But Nabbit is a selectable character on Switch, so the code doesn’t work…and if you play as Nabbit, who can’t use the squirrel suit, you just die.
I contacted Nintendo about it and everything. Still salty, lol.
Mario Rabbids Kingdom Battle has a ridiculous number
I’m annoyed that Nintendo abandoned ARMS after only 10 months, Nintendo promised a year of updates and the last time I checked a year is 12 months.
Kinda funny how Jon checks NintendoEverything but not Nintendolife lol
Counting a 1.0 release with no updates and a 1.0 release with later updates but not a 1.1 release with no later updates is kinda weird.
Bayonetta 1 and 2 are also 1.0.0 launches .
The patches are added chinese and it adds close to Bayonetta 3 release.
Just goes to show everyone that Advance Wars is perfect as is.
I actually really like this type of video just as a unique information thing. Wouldn't mind seeing how other publishers stack up against Nintendo for releasing games that don't need immediate patches.
Very interesting video! I laughed when those 3 kirby games were never patched. Perfection! (also nobody messes with kirby :D)
I disagree.
I am indeed who I am, but as life goes on, I patch myself to better myself ;)
Nice video, by the way!
i appreciate that you sorted the games by title and genre beforehand.
I remember in college I had a professor. Nice guy. German. A classmate asked about the deadline for the "rough draft" and he flew into a fit. Said: I don't want your 'rough' draft. I want your FIRST draft. I want you to put everything you've got into that first draft, and then we can talk about how it'll be made perfect. Game developers these days are turning in their rough drafts.
Also, I would argue Fire Emblem 1 DID have an update. It was delisted. Maybe we can call that Down Dating.
My question is how many games have updates for certain regional versions, but not for others? While far from first-party, I know that Persona 5 Scramble (Strikers) got 3 patches in Japan, but no patches anywhere else in the world because the worldwide version was released later.
This man is in a cave of foam
Is there a way to find a list of Nintendo published physical releases. For switch? Like every game with Nintendo on the spine.
I like this genre of videos
I was unaware of the language support patch for the first Bayonetta. Although, to this day, Bayonetta Origins is still 1.0, which I wonder will be patched since I had an interesting glitch happen to me during the final boss's second phase.
Dont forget about game builder garage!
You need to look up the Mario & Rabbids games' version numbers, those are wild! 😂
Lol how did u even get into that foam box?
Maybe he lives in japan or south korea
In reply to the weird joke at the end. The truth is we are an ever updating person, ever changing, and are definitely not version 1.0 people. haha
Metroid dread releases also with 1.0.
The 1.0.1 patch came October 20th 2021
The game releases on October 8th 2021.
Its not very long but it should at least go to the "minor patch later" category 🤔
Dread is currently 2.1.0 which added extra modes. Definitely not "never updated".
I was thinking about this topic this week, weird world. a Friend lent me Persona strikers and It had no Update.
I read the title at first as tasted
I play Breath of the Wild off of a physical game cartridge. Why does it says 0.0 MB under the Manage Software menu?
I assume because it's not installed data. It's likely any save or cartridge install data (seen PS4 games have system profile data saved usually with Japanese third party titles do this) is there maybe in some games? Just a guess. That or a bug (visual or calculating the data) that's also possible.
I know Bravely Default II had no updates ever. Which strikes me as odd because that game has a lot of minor hiccups in performance. It takes a few seconds to open the menu and it stops every time it autosaves. Nothing major and I don't know if these issues are in the pc version.
Hope Kingdom Hearts IV is about the 12 version 1.0 lights and the 7 version 1.0.1 darkness