ICANN and the 7 Keys to the Internet
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
- In this episode, David sits down to explain how wanting the Pizza.Pizza domain led him down a rabbit hole to discovering some interesting facts about how the internet works. Who decides what domains are available? How much does it cost to start one? And is it true that there are seven people with special keys that control the internet? David gets to the bottom of it all! We hope you enjoy.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:24 The story begins
05:31 Looking for who owns pizza.pizza
10:51 Managing IP Addresses
16:29 Ad break
16:31 DNS explainer
30:46 Ad break
30:48 Key Signing Key Ceremony
43:43 Going to the location
52:10 Transparency with the ceremony
58:19 So who owns pizza.pizza?
01:01:42 Tangent into David's master plan for all of his domains
01:06:19 Weown.pizza
01:06:55 Outro
Links:
ICANN Key Ceremony 47: bit.ly/ICANNKSK47
WeOwn.Pizza: bit.ly/3Cea0yu
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This whole podcast feels like a 2 A.M. conversation with the bros
Feeling like I’m at a sleepover
Extremely obsessive bros
David is next level in-depth… this is a documentary
me literally at 2 AM haha.... So cool
Bruh!!!
David's journalism background shining here. He does a great job on the podcast.
Back when he was on Android Authority,his videos and articles were my favorite. I miss the Old Android Authority.
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@@Pumpkinking64 we dont care ngl
@@Pumpkinking64 I find him super interesting. He has a very compelling way of getting his thoughts across.
@@FaresDjebbar Yeah me too and all true AA fans
Words can't explain how much of a gem David is
Marques, I honestly think you should absoultely keep giving free reign to David to continue this type of investigative journalism for MKBHD.Years of WVFRM and I've watched literally all of them, but this was BY FAR, my most favorite. Good stuff David.
Whatever David wants to do, let him do it. He's so great to watch!
by far the coolest WVFRM podcast ever!
YES!
100%. More of these and David please!
Ikr
Oddly one of my favorites too lol
I saw this comment before completing the episode…. And totally agree after watching it….. so much joy in learning about internet and the line “secure yet transparent” mwaah ❤❤❤❤ and the ending to whole saga
I crashed with my motorcycle a few years ago and ended up in the hospital for 5 days, it was a bad time, but I shared the room with a guy who was one of the 7 that held the key to the internet and he had some MAD stories about the birth of the internet. He and David explained it almost the exact same way. Truly a great episode / educational video. Thank you!!
Whoa glad you’re okay! That’s so cool
Whoa that's fascinating and also glad youre OK! What a person to share a room with!
Cap
so the crash was worth it.
like seriously?
Inspired by pizza to write a story about top level domain, jumped through so many hoops and researched a story about the history of internet for 6 months, delivered the story beautifully, never ordered the pizza that inspired him in the first place... Please never change, David. Never change.
I feel like David could be best friends with anyone. Has golden retriever energy
This should be a recurring thing. Every year, just have an episode where you go really in-depth on some interesting story that you're pursuing. This was so fascinating and I hope we get to see more episodes like this!
We've got a few longform episodes! Check out "The new space race", "How the James Webb Space Telescope unfolds the universe", and The Rise and Fall of Boosted Boards - though this one is audio only.
Cooking up some more longer projects for the new year.
@@DavidImel 👌
@@DavidImel Outstanding storytelling, riveting content, and even the pace and side stories were off the chart! You did "that" David!
@@DavidImel Awesome! Thank you!
@@DavidImel subscribed! Just here to say that you're an amazing storyteller/podcaster and I really hope you're in more content in 2023 because I will watch if you are in them :D I'm in no way part of the tech community but you have a gift in explaining things in a way anyone can understand. Much thank!
i am half way through this podcast, and i am already feeling this is the best treasure hunt story of modern era .. who owns .pizza domain .. lovely and epic ..
Never thought there could be such a good story over DNS! Thank you, David!
I have the faintest memory of the ICANN key signing ceremony being recorded for the first time long ago and never got to see it. Glad to see the information is so open and really appreciate this niche topic.
This has to be the nerdiest thing I’ve geeked out on in a looooonnnggg while. I appreciate this !
I say it every time, but I really do love when David is on the pod
This feels like an old school Reply All podcast episode where they go discover something really obscure and interesting. Hope you guys do more of these.
Like a Super Tech Support
I was wondering why I enjoyed this episode so much. Literally this. Like they are filling a void in my life.
Seriously saved the coolest episode for the end of the year, this is by far my favorite episode you all have filmed to date. I am also HOWLING that David never actually ordered that original pizza and the team’s reaction omgggg
Glad I’m not the only one who was dying lol
Do you like Waveform podcasts?
holding an audience in such a captivating way for over an hour is such a feat. major props to David. Love this guy! BING BONG
This would've made for a sick main channel video, or at least a studio video, just compress it down, and film the whole journey. Would've been epic, even for the general audience
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th-cam.com/video/g4L0kxVIxGY/w-d-xo.html
But what if I told you….
th-cam.com/video/g4L0kxVIxGY/w-d-xo.html
There is such video, just that it is in Swedish. :) th-cam.com/video/gQO7Ti4uSnQ/w-d-xo.html
There's a studio video on the studio channel
I’m learning more from this episode than I ever did in any computer, typing or coding class I’ve taken.
True! F them.. I need WVFRM every day!
I propose David gets a series on the main channel where he does this type of investigative work for all things tech! Give him 8 episodes per season and have him run away with any little idea turning into a new adventure. Amazing episode!
This is definitely up there among your most interesting episodes. David is such a great storyteller.
This was probably my favourite episode so far. Thanks waveform team ❤️
This was like the best waveform episode till date.. hoping for many more episodes of David stories and investigations....
David is my hero. This is exactly the kind of ADHD induced rabbit holes I get into, but with insane levels of follow-through that I wish to start doing too now. Love this, love all of you godspeed
Would love to seen a behind the scenes video of this crazy story on the Studio channel. Amazing work by David, his story telling ability is second to none.
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@@Adamlukas I am going to take that as a YES :)
👀 Noon ET 🫣
@@DavidImel looking forward to it.
I listened to this while doing monotone things at work and WOW, it was Amazing! The whole building the computer part made me go "no way, that's sick" so many times. Thank you for such an awesome episode. I would love to have more story time-like episodes like this.
Marques reactions are priceless! 😆😂
As someone who works in cybersecurity this fascinated me. As an Irishman this made me cringe. And as a Lego fan this made me laugh.
Well done to David on yet another brilliant podcast! You have outdone yourself.
Best episode ever. As an IT expert, it answers many of questions I have struggled to wrap my head around
This felt like I was watching a college lecture. David's enthusiasm and then the others with blank stares on their faces.
I love that I have seen these same headlines over the years that act like there is all this secrecy around this, and the truth is it is all public and livestreamed and on TH-cam. In addition, the story telling skill on display to wrap this all up in a nice package was fantastic.
I love the fact that Marques just lets David do this sort of thing, truly a fantastic boss
There's actually a term for "security through transparency", it's called Kerckhoffs's principle, which states "that a cryptosystem should be secure, even if everything about the system, except the key, is public knowledge".
Though it was originally used to refer to the design and use of cryptography, we (security folks) use it in a general sense also. Like, if Samsung decides to use a MAC address as a default password for a home IoT device, we might say "that fails Kerckhoff's principle".
LOVE it when david goes deep dive on any topic, it was a lot of fun. Also props to marques and andrew for being great listeners. Keep up the good work!
Ok the theory behind the internet I already knew but this podcast was really interesting and the conclusion was so funny. Good job
It feels like I'm in my 10th grade computer class. I learned something new thanks 🙏 to you guyz...
Great episode. Working in IT and data networks, I am stunned when explainers about DNS and IP addresses show example IPs, that aren't technically possible (4 numbers, each less than 256). Furthermore it's sometimes a bit confusing between DNS security (the ceremony in Culpepper) and website security (HTTPS, the lock in the browser), as HTTPS without the DNS security extensions (DNSSEC) can work more than well for the online banking example, and DNSSEC usage is far from common.
yess, exactly what i was thinking, i guess he mixed the HTTPS and DNS cryptography
Excellent episode. Having learned about internet, from ARPANET to DNSSEC and more, in school and my free time and having worked for a registrar, weird that I actually never asked myself how the root zone is even freaking signed. :)) I had no idea about these ICANN meetings. Greatly captivating episode! I agree with other commenters that more of these is seriously welcome! Thanks and wish the entire team a happy new new year of 2023!
This was awesome, I don't know if you know Reply All but since that went offline I've had a long-form tech journalism shaped whole in my life. You just filled it. Please do more!
Didn't expect to get that educated. Well done Sir David
This podcast keeps getting better and better with these out-of-the-box episodes !! Keep them coming (from time to time). Well done guys!!!
This episode reminds me so much of Reply All! I love it! Please keep doing these special episodes!
read about ICANN in computer science class 14-15 years ago, then kept reading all those headlines about 7 people owning the keys on social media.. never thought I'd actually get to see it.. watched the video on The Studio channel and came here to hear more about it.
Most informative WVFRM podcast. Really loved this. More of these
This has been one of my favorite episodes. Delving deeper into the tech world than we usually see!
Okay this was the most gripping podcast ever. I usually listen while doing something but it was so interesting, i really had to stop, get my works done, and comeback to listen to it without any distractions it was so entertaining. 💯 for the whole crew.
Boy... You guys should have more episodes like these... This has been the most informative Waveform 2022.... Thanks guys...
That was so much knowledge in 1 hour, kudos to David and entire team for this.
I just got a TON more respect for David here (more than I already had to be honest), this stuff is pretty above many folks heads and he nailed it. He even did a great job of dumbing it down for the uninitiated out there to "get it". Watching Marquez and rest of the crew slowly get it as well was really cool to boot! I really enjoyed waking up to this, thanks David!
This episode is one of my favorites! The story about ICANN's meeting is fascinating and I love David's narrative throughout all of it paired together with the technical explanations.
Thumbnail looks like Marques is hugging Andrew from behind
I can’t unsee it 😂
This is the best podcast, what a journey! More of this style of research and storytelling!
This is the best WVFRM podcast I've ever seen.
This is hands down the best podcast of the year. It had me glued to my screen all morning. Well done David, fantastic journalism.
This was one of the best documentaries (??? Don't really know what to call this ) that I have ever seen I never thought anyone could make me be so enthralled into DNS
I have a 25 year career in Internet Networking and I loved this highly informed deep dive into the infrastructure we use every day. Well researched and presented great Job.
If anything, I wish this type of content was in our education system somewhere. It answered all the questions about the internet that I didn't even know how to ask. The sheer amount of information made me come back a few times because this is all so fascinating!!
Great convoy with tons of useful info for my nerdy brain. Never stop nerdying out David.
No cap... This is episode is mind-blowing and it was delivered in the most f*ckin' best way that I found myself taking in some nuts amount of information that I kinda thought I knew about already but then this explained it for me perfectly.
The ending from Ellis my and David is mic drop moment!
This gave me vintage Reply All vibes. Would love to see more projects with this journalism type approach!
This is the most specific deep dive I ever seen and I love that it spawned from wanting a pizza
This is great! I'm 54. I've met Tim Berners-Lee a few times. I've been active in W3C, going to Silicon Valley a few times a year during the 90's, visiting Google since they had about 20 employees etc. A lot of this is new to me. I heard about these meetings many times but it's always been a rumour. I'm impressed!
This is truly impressive journalism!
There is a beautiful feeling to know that the whole internet relies on humans after all the digital and non material aspect of it. It is in the end and at its beginning and core depending solely on humans. It makes it even more human that it has ever been.
And I have that other mind blowing feeling of knowing there is people operating the internet as if you would tell me there is actually one man that is turning on and shutting down the sun every day.
It was one of the best episodes guys.
David, amazing job.
Happy new year to you guys.
Love when David's at the table
I took a whole lecture in security in university last semester and i remember some of the ideas but man this explation and story is 1000 better than all that semester studying
I've been an audio listener of the podcast for a little more than a year now, but I came here to comment that this was my favorite episodes thus far. Really reminded me of early Reply All days, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Would love to see more episodes like this in the future.
This episode reminds me so much of 'Reply All' really awesome, I hope to get some more deep dives (especially by David, love his enthusiasm)
Hands down best episode of The Waveform podcast 🙌. Take a bow, David. I never wanted him to stop talking. Absolute chill and informative episode with the right pinch of humour
This was so much fun to listen to and learn as well. Great content guys, keep it up! Can't wait for the next story. See you in 6 months! Thinking about ordering a pizza but it's too late....
Best Waveform podcast ever. That story is a great way to kick off the episode. Looking forward to what the team has in store for 2023.
David you do a great job at giving the /reply-all/ story telling vibe in this episode and it was great. One of my favorite waveform podcasts to date!! I hope this episode gets good feedback and y’all do more like this
What a cool video. An event of such importance where nothing goes wrong, there is no controversy, the people are serious about the process and commercial interests are not polluting it. We need more of this.
I am not really the type of person who listens to podcasts. But the storytelling in this episode was so amazing, I couldn't stop listening until the end. Thanks for such great content!
I am 100% here for whatever this new podcast style is. Reminds me of classic Reply All (rip) and it’s just what my feed has been missing. My wife usually rolls her eyes when I’m listening to tech podcasts but she actually heard me listening and joined in and said “I would listen if the episodes were all like this”
It took David and team's incredible work to get me subscribed to the WVFRM Podcast. Marvelous! Thank you!
Honestly though! I now will only listen to this channel if David's part of it.
I never want to get off David's Wild Ride. It's interesting and critical information and modern comedy powered by sheer curiosity and determination.
This was a great episode! Thank you David and the team!
The ending of this podcast is priceless! I was curious the whole time on what kind of pizza they had.
I remember earlier videos where we would not frequently be talking to the camera video diary style. You seem so calm and confident like it’s so easy now. Loved this vlog .
Wow. Getting a lot of Radiolab vibes from this story. One of the best podcast episodes I’ve heard in the past year. Keep it up.
I found quite a few crypto references/analogies in this episode. DNS spreadsheet Blockchain, 2 people scanning at the same time to get in Multisig wallets, Airgapped computer Airgapped wallets, Domain Certifications via Public Key Cryptography Wallet Addresses, HSM Key Generation Hardware Wallet Seed generation, Security through transparency Core Blockchain philosophy (Trust, But Verify)...
Really enjoyed this episode! Thank you, David, Adam, and Ellis!
Their are not just similar, some are literally using the same technologies. After all why should crypto folks re-invent the wheels ? 🙂
Woah. this is probably the craziest thing I've ever heard of irl
super sweet episode y’all 👌
Out of everything of the internet I've read, heard and seen. This is by far is the coolest thing I've even seen. This is so insane on so many levels. I'm glad to have learned about this.
This one was definitely 🔥 lol Might be one of the most slept on videos on TH-cam. Informative and filled with some classic hitters. I will never look at pizza the same. Kinda feel like every time pizza is brought up, I'm immediately going to go on a rant about how the internet is kept secure.
You guys just brought back reply-all’s super tech support segment. Love this style of podcasting. Hope we get more in 2023
I love hearing from David, he always finds awesome topics!
I could only think about the Elders of the Internet from The IT Crowd while listening to this. Great reporting!
This was absolutely the greatest one of these yet!!!! You all rule, and this was fantastic!!!!!
Literally not where I thought this was going when I clicked play but I learned quite a few things I didn't learn in school. Nice job!
This might be my favorite episode so far.
This was such a fun and informative episode. The reason why I watch this particular podcast. Information always made fun to consume
We need the list of domains owned by David 👀
It’s a long list 😅
this is so good, it honestly belongs on the main channel
This is best episode so far. Loved it.
honestly one of the best video content I have watched in a while. We really take the IoT for granted, glad to know to realise there is a protocol on how the internet works and security involved. Keep up the awesome work WVFRM - Kudos to David. This is although livestreamed but never did I ever come across this event.
This was the perfect story. Really wish for more pods like this, David made this such a fun ride to go on! One my favorite pieces of content ever.
I fully expect an O-flegos tournament in the next studio vid 😂
This episode is insanly cool!
Hoping for having more technical episode as this one!
Banger of an episode to close the year with 🔥
Whenever David takes the lead it becomes a great show he's good at explaining stuff
I've been watching these podcasts for a while but this one finally pushed me into subscribing to the channel. Looking forward to more Imel detective work.