Thomas Sowell Dismantles Egalitarianism (Frances Fox Piven Edition)

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  • @comesahorseman
    @comesahorseman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4895

    A free people will never be equal, and a people ( made) equal will never be free. It's really that simple.

    • @v.v.7522
      @v.v.7522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      John Amidon amen

    • @parrotshootist3004
      @parrotshootist3004 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Thus the bait for willing slaves is set.

    • @sifundo77
      @sifundo77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True

    • @TheJTinHB
      @TheJTinHB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      People "made" equal, will also never be equal.

    • @sergeseanmison7787
      @sergeseanmison7787 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting

  • @jpierre9698
    @jpierre9698 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2499

    3 important questions I learned to ask because I listened to Thomas Sowell:
    Compared to what?
    At what cost?
    What hard evidence do you have?

    • @elizabethd.838
      @elizabethd.838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Sihing Pierre He uses reason, not emotions and rhetoric. This is the source of seeking truth.

    • @The22Walli
      @The22Walli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Yes, he said that arguments from the left usually don't live up to those three questions

    • @Tome4kkkk
      @Tome4kkkk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's funny because no one is asking those questions when revering capitalism :) And no, comparing performance of a capitalist system to totalitarian socialist systems is a proof of high-IQ retardation rather than a valid argument :)

    • @TheEpikak
      @TheEpikak 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      It is simply amazing how much BS you can cut through using three simple questions.

    • @jesusmods1
      @jesusmods1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Tome4kkkk well you have to compare to real stuff you know?

  • @HeavyK.
    @HeavyK. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4063

    The older I get, the more I enjoy a black person berating a white liberal for deciding to speak and think for black people.
    Tomas Sowell is just incredible.

    • @JimmyJaxJellyStax
      @JimmyJaxJellyStax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Absolutely, it's one thing to have compassion and attempt to see things from the perspective of another race beyond our own, but another to downright pretend we've somehow also lived as another. In respect for accuracy, everyone should tactfully lead the sharing of the most genuine experiences of their own race to help society most accurately understand. Sowell is the black man here, let him represent his people lady! Also not to obsess too much, risk of polarizing everything into race (ala Twitter tirades today, etc).

    • @floatsting20
      @floatsting20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      A white liberal is the most racist. They spout this crap and then go home to their nice neighborhood with white faces

    • @ShawnWeeded510
      @ShawnWeeded510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      And Sowell acting as though he speaks for all black people implies that blacks are to some degree a monolith. Sowell speaks for a minority of the black community.

    • @TheClemcaster
      @TheClemcaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Only an old white man would find Sowell's ideas 'just incredible.'

    • @kevinkilpatrick7510
      @kevinkilpatrick7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @Ken Wells he berates her for saying something correct. she’s not speaking for black people, she’s simply stating a fact: inequality in education was a significant issue of concern for the black civil rights movement in the 60s. sowell indicates very firmly that this is incorrect, but it is indeed correct, historical, factual, even widely accepted.

  • @casablancasj448
    @casablancasj448 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3973

    Imagine trying to win a debate when you're up against Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell. Good luck.

    • @avonflex5031
      @avonflex5031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      were can i get d full debate

    • @actualideas8078
      @actualideas8078 5 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      And you have a dumb premise to defend like socialism

    • @marcosmelendez09
      @marcosmelendez09 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Simply they will win because they are speaking the truth. There is only one truth. The rest is just opinions

    • @maxscott3349
      @maxscott3349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Depends what you're debating. If it were say, which types of ground you need toothed buckets for, or whether you can weld gray cast with a 7018, I'd probably be at an advantage

    • @marcelbenner993
      @marcelbenner993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@avonflex5031 To me, this looks like a series Milton Friedman has done. They are called Free to Choose. After some explanations in form of a movie, a debate is held at the end of each part. There are 10 in total but I don't know from which this clip is.

  • @omgutubeismylife
    @omgutubeismylife 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1305

    "Like most people, I've never seen a pollster."

    • @radioheadinc
      @radioheadinc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      omgutubeismylife I love that

    • @arisvery4986
      @arisvery4986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Amen!

    • @michaelangeloright704
      @michaelangeloright704 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Like most people I've never seen a Pollster.

    • @BenDoverII
      @BenDoverII 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Even today...That statement wins the internet...

    • @Charistoph
      @Charistoph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      She says, "Black Leaders", you mean like Martin Luther King, Jr? Like Malcolm X? They spoke out against the very crap she was promoting. Which is probably why they died so early on, am I right?
      No, she's referring to the sell outs like Reverend Jackson and Al Sharpton.

  • @varanidguy
    @varanidguy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1780

    Why don't we have shows like this on television anymore?! Screw Keeping Up With the Kardashians, that's GARBAGE! THIS!! This is what we NEED! Education!

    • @MrClaudiuzz9
      @MrClaudiuzz9 8 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      +varanidguy Supply flows to where the demand is, its what the people want

    • @lisat9322
      @lisat9322 8 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      +Claudius Odermatt - Not exactly. It's what the people are FED.

    • @MrClaudiuzz9
      @MrClaudiuzz9 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lisa T No one is forcing you to consume

    • @MrClaudiuzz9
      @MrClaudiuzz9 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Lisa T You're consuming on your freedom of choice and free will

    • @lisat9322
      @lisat9322 8 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Claudius Odermatt - I don't watch the trash on TV. It's boring. There are very few programs on today's TV that are intellectual or educational. Most are with a leftist slant and predictable. Thanks, but no thanks. I prefer to live in reality because I don't believe in unicorns and pixie dust.

  • @benjaminscherrey1124
    @benjaminscherrey1124 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2488

    "Like most people I have never seen a pollster!" - Sowell
    What an awesome true statement! Sowell is the sage of our age.
    "You get greater equality of actual results by a system under which people are free to achieve unequal results" - Friedman
    Friedman is possibly the wisest man to live in the 20th century. He is truly missed.

    • @oscarcabral6913
      @oscarcabral6913 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What does Sowell mean by that?

    • @judasjuicebox
      @judasjuicebox 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      what do you think of Ludvig von Mises?

    • @EthanNoble
      @EthanNoble 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I'd give that label to Mises or Rothbard

    • @ajdoyle9559
      @ajdoyle9559 6 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Polls were taken which asked a sample of black people if they supported affirmative action, most said no. She says randomly without any evidence that Thomas Sowell puts the ideas into the pollsters heads that black people don't support affirmative action, he responds that he has never even met a pollster which highlights how ridiculous her assertion is.

    • @cristianofisch
      @cristianofisch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @EthanNoble Me too. Friedman trusted government and politicians too much, thats why Mises said: "You're all a bunch of socialists".

  • @HamsterWheelGaming
    @HamsterWheelGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1013

    Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman in the same room....I wish I could have been there. God bless both of them.

    • @ginohernandez3770
      @ginohernandez3770 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You can add Carl Sagan in there too.

    • @DieFlabbergast
      @DieFlabbergast 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      God was probably in the audience (in disguise).

    • @samoralink8952
      @samoralink8952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Friedman was an evil man who caused the death of thousands of people due to his economic experiments especially in South America.

    • @LuisOrtiz-xo5kc
      @LuisOrtiz-xo5kc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@samoralink8952 What is your evidence to support this claim?

    • @jesusmods1
      @jesusmods1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@samoralink8952 WTF are you talking about?

  • @iWizard
    @iWizard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +552

    Ahhh, the good ol’ days. Remember when our public debates used to sound like that? Remember when left and right robustly debated facts and philosophies? What a joke we’ve become.

    • @marixcx
      @marixcx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ken MacDonald
      Delusional i see

  • @jawhitak
    @jawhitak 8 ปีที่แล้ว +539

    I miss these times. People discussed ideas and policies rather than just call each other names..

    • @gregpatterson921
      @gregpatterson921 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      jawhitak once someone starts calling names, the other has won the argument

    • @fabulousdolphin4221
      @fabulousdolphin4221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      now the answer would be YOU RACIST KRAKKA

  • @FerdinandFake
    @FerdinandFake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    "If you dont want to trade freedom for welfare, you aint black" - JB

    • @davidlund5213
      @davidlund5213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I thought of the same exact thing! it's infuriating how long this idea has persisted, especially in the presence of such brilliant minds as Thomas Sowell's

  • @gQuaresma07
    @gQuaresma07 8 ปีที่แล้ว +513

    milton friedman and Thomas Sowell are together ♥ :O

    • @mmlas8683
      @mmlas8683 8 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Thomas Sowell is still alive.

    • @wiltonheath9618
      @wiltonheath9618 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Milton Friedman is in the video

    • @akasteve03
      @akasteve03 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Abdul Gemayyel this is from free to choose series by milt it was a great series

    • @MusicaX79
      @MusicaX79 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There's an awesome debate for privatizing schools that has William f Buckley, Thomas Sowell, and Milton Friedman all on one side. Amazon has it and I think youtube has parts of it for free if you look hard enough.

    • @rodneyleon3645
      @rodneyleon3645 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      thats because milton was his mentor

  • @mjh277
    @mjh277 8 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    I thought egalitarianism was just that everyone had equal rights and opportunities, not equal outcome

    • @AshyView24
      @AshyView24 5 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      We've had equal rights and opportunities for decades. The results are not what the leftists wanted to see so now they want to control the outcomes by restricting rights and opportunities to the races and genders of people that did well with their opportunities in life... I.E white and Asian men. They have become authoritarian and truly believe their discrimination is just and right.

    • @fabulousdolphin4221
      @fabulousdolphin4221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no

    • @squeakersthegryphon5338
      @squeakersthegryphon5338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Sadly most modern people think that egalitarianism is equal outcome.

    • @samqwerty
      @samqwerty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It's exactly that. He is making a strawman, but people are too sentimental with their own dogmas to even notice.

    • @rowsdower12
      @rowsdower12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      It's communism now. They are trying to control speech too

  • @mdjcsmith
    @mdjcsmith 7 ปีที่แล้ว +666

    Wow, never seen Sowell lose his patience like that.

    • @TrollinFromFlask
      @TrollinFromFlask 5 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      I'm against getting anger in debates but can't blame him listening to that manipulative hag.

    • @davidturner1641
      @davidturner1641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      He did kind of.lose it
      It took me a minute to understand why

    • @davidturner1641
      @davidturner1641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      What she said was so radically racist
      He was unwilling to go backwards

    • @SJQuirke
      @SJQuirke 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Even this he does well - what a great guy!

    • @dannyburns2394
      @dannyburns2394 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      mdjcsmith, he wants to distract you with his anger so you don’t notice that he is lying. Consistently the polls show that 69-84% of black people surveyed agree with affirmative action. Today 63% of white people do. He lies!

  • @patsaultz721
    @patsaultz721 6 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    Thomas Sowell is the most bad ass black man to ever walk the face of this earth ...the most Under rated Scholar as well !

    • @lucasley20
      @lucasley20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He sure is!

    • @davidturner1641
      @davidturner1641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He might be one of them
      ...MLK Jr
      ...Dr. Ben Carson
      ...I don't necessarily agree with Islam but cassius clay/Ali was pretty brilliant TBH
      I could go on with a few more
      Honestly I doubt there has ever been anyone SMARTER than Ben Carson
      He is an equal among the most high intellects that have ever lived

    • @davidturner1641
      @davidturner1641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      George Washington Carver
      .. George Washington

    • @buckeyewill2166
      @buckeyewill2166 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      pat saultz ....I respect his iconoclastic mannerisms. Even though I respect the Ne Deal and Great Society

    • @iwasherenowiamnotok8893
      @iwasherenowiamnotok8893 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about Huey Lewis

  • @sammyscellojourney3851
    @sammyscellojourney3851 7 ปีที่แล้ว +595

    Thomas Sowell should be the hero of the black community, he's a brillant mind!

    • @teebaggwell9853
      @teebaggwell9853 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Unfortunately black community call him all degrading names because he speak the truth.

    • @Cynicruss2
      @Cynicruss2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      You guys need to stop this identity politics.

    • @radiolaw3297
      @radiolaw3297 6 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      He should be the hero of all communities.

    • @logant44
      @logant44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      when he finally passes on (and he getting quite old) nyt will give him brief mention somewhere in the corner of some nondescript page

    • @cajunpipesmoker1519
      @cajunpipesmoker1519 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sammy's Cello Journey , I've heard he has to live in seclusion because of death threats by the black community.

  • @dcgregorya5434
    @dcgregorya5434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +522

    Watching these videos makes me depressed at how :
    We knew all this decades ago.
    Our society is even less intelligent now than it was then.
    At least you can say some of the liberals on here couldn't know the net result of how every one of these policies would fail. Now we do know this and people want to keep doubling down on something which not only doesn't work but it has counterproductive results.

    • @fabulousdolphin4221
      @fabulousdolphin4221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      read letters written by the average Joe in WW1 and WW2. You can clearly see how much dumber we are. the proficiency of language use has plummeted

    • @dbjkatz
      @dbjkatz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      dcgregorya the leftist imbeciles who killed Classical liberalism cling to the futile hope that their ideas - much like a 35 year old who lives in a basement smoking pot and playing video games - will some day work.

    • @buzifalus
      @buzifalus 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      america let us down. kill it before it breeds

    • @kingdomcome1617
      @kingdomcome1617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You win the top comment award for this video. Well stated.

    • @truthseeker9688
      @truthseeker9688 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      dcgregorya so true.

  • @maraw8658
    @maraw8658 8 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    I think I actually saw Thomas roll his eyes.....and I love it

    • @davidturner1641
      @davidturner1641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly he totally lost it for almost a minute

    • @davidturner1641
      @davidturner1641 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It took me a minute or five to understand why tho

    • @FloridaManMatty
      @FloridaManMatty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That’s the closest I’ve ever seen him come to losing his cool. He was right, too.

    • @musical_lolu4811
      @musical_lolu4811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He was younger.

  • @highdesert420
    @highdesert420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    I love Thomas Sowell so much. Wish he'd live forever.

  • @ElronHumpperdink
    @ElronHumpperdink 6 ปีที่แล้ว +634

    Notice how Sowell is an economist, the opponent is in political science. One is a useful occupation.

    • @Tome4kkkk
      @Tome4kkkk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Economists - the clergy class of today.

    • @Zorro9129
      @Zorro9129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      It's more like political science has been subverted by a league interested in advancing its goals rather than pursuing truth.

    • @nickthesupersaiyan
      @nickthesupersaiyan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Economics have been politicized to cheerlead capitalist economic logic and values.

    • @thisrichbastard.809
      @thisrichbastard.809 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Economics is theory based. Civilizations existed and thrive for thousands of years without Economists.

    • @juanme555
      @juanme555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Dr. Georgio Yakatura
      Not nearly as useful as Cicero.

  • @flaminghulaballoo
    @flaminghulaballoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Sowell nails it in his first sentence: talking at cross purposes. Sowell is talking from quantifiable fact and Piven is talking from rhetoric. The difference is substantive, especially as Sowell knows he is arguing from fact, and Piven does not seem to know that she is only arguing from rhetoric.
    This is the seminal problem of public discourse in our times. Never mind Social Media whipping up the mid-wits on any or all given sides. You cannot have any agreement when one side always argues in what is de facto bad faith. It has only gotten worse in 40 years.

  • @billybagbom
    @billybagbom 9 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    Wanna have a bad day? Include in it a debate with Thomas Sowell. He will wipe up the floor with you.

    • @jbailor13
      @jbailor13 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      /\ There are no three sentences which better sum up the talents of Mr. Sowell.

    • @davidturner1641
      @davidturner1641 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe
      I would debate anyone on almost anything
      It's fun
      :)

  • @agiftedrighterdotcom
    @agiftedrighterdotcom 8 ปีที่แล้ว +833

    My babies' intellects are increasing just by my playing this in the background of their playtime.
    I know it is true.

    • @LittleHatori
      @LittleHatori 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      😂yas!!!!!
      u can never start Good habits or discourse too early in a child's life.

    • @avonflex5031
      @avonflex5031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      were can i watch full debate

    • @brandonvestra
      @brandonvestra 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@avonflex5031 I'm looking for that too.

    • @emergencybearcedures4494
      @emergencybearcedures4494 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is true

    • @fabulousdolphin4221
      @fabulousdolphin4221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they are becoming more equal

  • @einhornisaman2973
    @einhornisaman2973 8 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    It must of been a pleasure in going to school everyday to be able to listen Thomas Sowell lecture about economics. I almost envy those students that had the privilege to hear this brilliant man speak.

    • @thedizzlesizzle89
      @thedizzlesizzle89 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You can still have that same privileges.. pretty much every talk they've done is available on youtube. You have it better than they did actually back then

    • @lucasfortes7705
      @lucasfortes7705 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dylan Stewart God bless the free-market!

    • @xandercorp6175
      @xandercorp6175 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      "almost"

  • @tigerarmyrule
    @tigerarmyrule 8 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Friedman should be required reading for everyone.

    • @allenellsworth5799
      @allenellsworth5799 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As well as his son.

    • @GamingLoadown101
      @GamingLoadown101 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Economics in one lesson should as should the problem with socialism

  • @Noraeve
    @Noraeve 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    "Like most people I have never seen a pollster!" - true then and true today. Love Thomas Sowell.

  • @3lightsteps
    @3lightsteps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Love Sowell. I have also loved Milton Friedman. Takes me back to better days when facts and logic could be heard.

  •  8 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Thomas Sowell is a frigg'n genius. He's written several books, some of which I've read and heartily recommend.

    • @guyfawkes9252
      @guyfawkes9252 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Walter Strong Which book would you recommend?

    • @Coaching-is3pz
      @Coaching-is3pz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      +Walter Strong So completely agree. One gains IQ points simply by reading Sowell's work.

    • @blessedalcuin
      @blessedalcuin 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Walter Strong Yup, he's written forty books.

    • @mohtoadh
      @mohtoadh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Walter Strong recommend just one?

    • @guyfawkes9252
      @guyfawkes9252 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes.

  • @fastsean9
    @fastsean9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    “A lot of people are born at the bottom of the society.” Girl please. It’s all a mindset. Do u think poor Asians come to America say aw I wish I somebody gave me money while i do nothing? No

  • @laloj.ramirez7101
    @laloj.ramirez7101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    “Like most people I have never seen a pollster.” Same Thomas, same. Sill relevant today in 2020

  • @percybolondo5430
    @percybolondo5430 8 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Tom's just too good. The smartest guy in the room every single time.

    • @ABHINAV-bo2ls
      @ABHINAV-bo2ls 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Percy Bolondo That would surely be Friedman.

    • @ramtrucks721
      @ramtrucks721 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Not when Freidman is there

  • @fredpearson5204
    @fredpearson5204 8 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    I'm not sure who's more awesome: Thomas Sowell or Milton Friedman? Piven is a microbe amongst intellectual giants.

    • @Mendelmandela
      @Mendelmandela 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +David Pearson piven is a virus among aliens heheheh

    • @samwiseg1972
      @samwiseg1972 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just like Yoda and Obi-Wan. Can't choose!

    • @yoonjeongsoo9378
      @yoonjeongsoo9378 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Fred Pearson I love them both to death. But Thomas lays down the absolute FIRE on race issues. It's so cathartic... and I'm a Korean man living in South Korea.

    • @veryliberalprogressiveathe6117
      @veryliberalprogressiveathe6117 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Fred Pearson I don't compare them. They're both great 👍.

    • @davidturner1641
      @davidturner1641 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@veryliberalprogressiveathe6117 I agree

  • @ChuddmasterZero
    @ChuddmasterZero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Sowell’s reasoning is always powerful and compelling. I wish he had a more prominent role today - his wisdom is sorely needed.

  • @shyama5612
    @shyama5612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Its amazing that even today 'equality of opportunity' is derided and 'equality of outcome' is considered morally superior by the Progressives. I shudder to think what would I have been if I had not known of Sowell and Milton. For sure, I'd have been a progressive as that's the 'factory setting' for most urban IT professional like myself.

  • @capitalismisgood7650
    @capitalismisgood7650 10 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Great quote from Thomas Sowell later on. "we live in a anointed state where the anointed decide how you should feel." Fits well here when he talks about black people not polling on affirmative action, the anointed polled for affirmative action putting affirmative action in the black peoples mouth.

    • @rajbaj
      @rajbaj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where can I watch the entire debate?

  • @classycactus8449
    @classycactus8449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I find it funny that she essentially asserted that you first need equality of outcome to achieve equality of opportunity.

  • @pablorages1241
    @pablorages1241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Sowell is a BOSS ... I wish everyone could think so logically and truthfully

  • @joeashbubemma
    @joeashbubemma 8 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Intellectual MMA. I love it. Friedman, Sowell - heavyweight champions of Freedom.

  • @John_II
    @John_II ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I could listen to Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell all day.

  • @yoonjeongsoo9378
    @yoonjeongsoo9378 7 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    "You expressed it dammit!!!"
    Love this moment

  • @iliilliliiliilliliiliillil9137
    @iliilliliiliilliliiliillil9137 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This mans should have been president instead of Obama

  • @dannyhawkins4842
    @dannyhawkins4842 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There is no such thing as equality between people. Equality is a mathematical
    term that is used to describe a relationship between abstract quantities. What
    people who use the term "equality" really mean to say is, "People are alike.".

  • @jacbug-7349
    @jacbug-7349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    He is one of the most brutal debaters I’ve ever seen. He talks with such vigour and confidence. He provides facts and a rational explanation to every claim put informant of him.

  • @lbuday
    @lbuday 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman top 10 anime collaborations

  • @cserpakbalazs6342
    @cserpakbalazs6342 9 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    off topic: Is Sowell 50 in this video? I can't belive he is, bt Wikipedia says he was born in 1930.

  • @hamnchee
    @hamnchee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Never saw Sowell get riled up before!
    Dammit, woman! Lol

  • @herashak
    @herashak 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    "Like most people I have never seen a pollster"
    "get wealthy with a permit to set up a television station"

  • @brendannadnerb5903
    @brendannadnerb5903 11 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love hearing Sowell say "damn it."

  • @raymondeaton5692
    @raymondeaton5692 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thomas Sowell is my hero. An honest thinking man.

  • @MikeJack20
    @MikeJack20 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The greatest cause of inequality is government programs. Mind blown.

  • @b3makinn
    @b3makinn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This man’s message has depth and weight. Thank you

  • @49riffinator
    @49riffinator 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Milton Friedman was like 'Man I could really use some popcorn right now'

  • @Frankcapasso
    @Frankcapasso ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dr. Sowell has achieved greatness 10 times over!

  • @lordbarberwigg
    @lordbarberwigg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such gratitude towards Mr Sowell and Mr Friedman for fighting the good fight and setting such powerful examples and education so that we may carry that torch for the next generation. I love reading and watching videos of them. Their worlds are just as true, if not more so, today.

  • @williamg780
    @williamg780 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love Sowell’s hand swipe at 2:32

    • @McBain86
      @McBain86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then Piven gives him the stink-eye, LOL.

  • @moniquemorris5833
    @moniquemorris5833 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    "Intellectuals were not in that protest movement, black people were in that protest movement" Okay, girl. Tell me how you really feel.

  • @martybeazley3306
    @martybeazley3306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my favorite speakers, Thomas Sowell, he is a fine American and a brilliant man.

  • @pwenkojammy2894
    @pwenkojammy2894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "They expressed it"
    Sowell is sitting there like: I'm sitting right in front of you... no I didn't...

  • @battleax8136
    @battleax8136 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Damn this dude is smart

    • @thegreatonecometh200
      @thegreatonecometh200 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hes another in a long line of right wing nuts wanting small government nothing particularly brilliant about his stance ! he lives in the same fantasy as Milton Freidman where everything will run great if government almost disappears ! time has proven that wrong everywhere including here

    • @avoiceup3222
      @avoiceup3222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thegreatonecometh200 you are correct to say he is a nut according to those who want others to control their mind for them. I will govern my own mind thank you.

    • @scottwilson4798
      @scottwilson4798 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thegreatonecometh200 where exactly has that been proven?

  • @yeboscrebo4451
    @yeboscrebo4451 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Friedman is always so clear and concise, so easy to listen to

  • @jasoncook9003
    @jasoncook9003 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dr. Sowell is truly brilliant.

  • @no-bozos
    @no-bozos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Never enter a battle of wits with Thomas Sowell unarmed.

  • @BlackFaceTrudeau
    @BlackFaceTrudeau 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant! What a duo! The master and his protegé

  • @mrbiz7774
    @mrbiz7774 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the smartest men I've ever listened to. A real American. God Bless TS

  • @Trid3nt861
    @Trid3nt861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell in the same panel together.... Im so joyful.

  • @georgecorrea8530
    @georgecorrea8530 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love it all. I wish we had more debates like these in today's world 🌏.

  • @stan420
    @stan420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you imagine Milton Friedman, Thomas Sowell, and Jordan Peterson together fighting all this nonsense

  • @anthonyreed480
    @anthonyreed480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Man, he demolished that Karen. "Like most people, I've never met a pollster." HA!

  • @wikicross
    @wikicross 11 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "These 2 have never admitted to being wrong on a single point of their philosophy."
    Actually, Sowell used to be a Marxist.

  • @ramakrishnagodugunur195
    @ramakrishnagodugunur195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are the ones we should have more on TV. Thomas Sowell and Friedman on one stage. Wow, nice!

  • @freetochoosenetwork
    @freetochoosenetwork  11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Today, we posted a new video on a similar topic: "Thomas Sowell on Black Misrepresentation"

  • @williamh5780
    @williamh5780 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's makes me so angry tht ppl don't get what Thomas sowell is talking about

  • @MinionWarlord
    @MinionWarlord 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Sowell: "Like most people, I have never met a Pollster"
    Epic..

  • @patwalker216
    @patwalker216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wrote Dr. Sowell, about 2 yrs. into Obama's first term, when I had given up, counting communist Obama's actual crimes at 67, and when some of the laws he broke, were laws HE HAD SIGNED into law. I asked him to run for president, that I voted for 'content of character', NOT the color of skin, and we needed a man of integrity, a brave person who was a truth teller. To my shock, I learned his age, and that he had been asked to run, but figured, probably correctly, that he could do more, writing articles and books. You have my total respect, Sir, I just wish those in the 'black community' AND the white liberals, all of whom are brainwashed by the Marxists, would LISTEN to the truths you speak.

  • @nissi9055
    @nissi9055 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "People should be FREE to achieve unequal results." Milton Friedman

  • @thomaskline5164
    @thomaskline5164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw this in 1980, but time has passed I just don't remember if it was before or after I Graduated from Parris Island.

  • @stevensbeeco767
    @stevensbeeco767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Tom Sowell. A true thinker, and asset to a free nation.

  • @securityquip3170
    @securityquip3170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thomas motherf***ing Sowell is the MAN.

  • @pisaniforprez
    @pisaniforprez 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just to let you know, I had purchased Basic Economics a few days after your comment. It came in eBay a week or so ago. Been busy with school, but I'll go through it soon. Thanks for your help!

  • @Gathoklea
    @Gathoklea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone have the full video of this debate? I'd love to be able to watch it in its entirety.

  • @Showmetheevidence-
    @Showmetheevidence- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love Milton and Thomas equally. :)

  • @joeyravage4798
    @joeyravage4798 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Sowell: "You expressed it, damn it!"

  • @JAJA0913
    @JAJA0913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The final choice, as taught by history, is very clear: Do you want more wealth for yourself or do you want equalized distribution of poverty?

  • @covercalls88
    @covercalls88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have followed Dr. Friedman and Dr. Sowell during my college days. Very impressive men to say the least.. I really had to pay attention to what Dr. Sowell was saying, as it was thought provoking and took a little longer to sink in. Dr. Friedman to me was a little more easier to understanding as he tenderd to use easily understood examples to make his point.

  • @skepticbubble3166
    @skepticbubble3166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Removing any barrier to advancement not giving any sector a special privileged
    wow that was so simple and hit the point right on the spot

  • @rickywhite5715
    @rickywhite5715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best way to achieve equality is to treat everyone equally.

  • @bjornironside6707
    @bjornironside6707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    egalitarianism sounds a lot like everyone gets a trophy

  • @heismightytosave527
    @heismightytosave527 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Praise God for Thomas a man of truth.

  • @MagicMarker447
    @MagicMarker447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tom is one of the most underrated minds of our time. He is a wise man far beyond the goofballs he is arguing against here.

  • @sdurham1662
    @sdurham1662 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why can't we have programs like this today?

  • @margovallen
    @margovallen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thomas Sowell is a man whom is an IQ superior individual..... and others are unable to be able to go up against Mr. Thomas Sowell.

  • @SOULFORESAKER
    @SOULFORESAKER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Equality of outcome creates a society of less qualified experts. Racist race based affirmative action leads to higher drop out rates because the individual was not ready. Individualism matters more than collectivism in opportunity. Because a strong individual population is a strong collective.

  • @thedude7319
    @thedude7319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When I see this I have difficulty imaging gangster culture and rap took hold and not Sowell

  • @Cheapers-Vac
    @Cheapers-Vac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More , Thomas Sowell's and Milton Friedman's ,Lord ! More Honest ,clear thinking Men with integrity !

  • @woodtrevor21
    @woodtrevor21 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He was a great voice for such a time. Would like to see more of him nowadays on TV!

  • @VicTorRific
    @VicTorRific 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've always considered myself an egalitarian but for equality of opportunity. These folks are arguing for equality of outcome. Less government intervention and more personal freedom is all the equality we need.
    Love me some Thomas Sowell.

    • @happyhammer1
      @happyhammer1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Equality is great, but equity is a race to the bottom.

  • @TheWanderer656
    @TheWanderer656 10 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Piven gets owned. Period.

  • @joeshmo2117
    @joeshmo2117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thomas Sowell,
    Kicking SJW butt since 1930.

  • @BluesHarpJammin
    @BluesHarpJammin 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely!!! Read "Basic Economics" first. Excellent for explaining economics for regular folks - no fancy jargon, charts or graphs. After that, read "Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One." An excellent analysis of the differences between political decision-making and it's long-term economic consequences.

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Freedom to achieve unequally." What a great concept.