Ive been a certified kia tech for 5 years and i will tell u these cars from the factory are underated in hp they are more like 390 to 400 and when we were getting certified on these cars , we spoke to several of the engineer's frok kia, these cars are so dimmed down from the factory , there is a lot of meat left on the bone from the factory, 100hp extra is only a tune and induction away
Although this is true, the long term reliability factor was more a priority with Hyundai's engineers who designed this advanced Lambda II engine than simply extracting the absolute maximum performance out of it. This is not a race car, it's a daily driver but performing GT. Mod it at your own risks and remember that it's a Hyundai Twin-Turbocharged V6, not an indestructible Chevy small block V8. That being said, I love my Kia Stinger GT Limited.
@@AlainHubert That's why I haven't modified mine...might do a cold air intake and a muffler delete, but leave it stock otherwise for longevity....definitely fast enough as is and I'm coming out of a 2018 Mustang GT
Absolutely agree. I hear ppl say when they designed the 3.3T engine it was meant for 400hp however they had to de-tune it to 365 to make sure it extra reliable for their 10 yr warranty.
I own this same Stinger in 2019 exterior and interior GT2 AWD for two weeks as of weeks today. Let’s not get so nit picky about this car. If this car had four rings or BMW badge it would start in the 70’s and god forgive you leather seats. Track?! This isn’t tuned for a track. The Audi A5 isn’t tuned for a track either, not is a BMW 540i. This car is fast, period. Reviewers always talk about tracks, canyon carving, and fast cornering etc..blah,blah, blah. No owner needs to make excuses for owning one. This car gets looks from everyone when I drive it or park. It’s fun to drive on a daily basis.
Very few daily drivers are meant for the track.Eeven 100k plus AMG and M cars go into limp mode after several laps and anything more then 2 hours andyour tires and brake pads are shot--unless you just cruise around the track.There are track packages for less then 1000 dollars that give you some class and give you a few hours behind the wheel of a tuned down stock/race car.BTW tires alone will cost you 700 to 1000 dollars after you ruin them on the track.I would take my stinger only to something like a silver state classic--not a track.BTW KIAS brake rotors are not brembos and you could risk warping those.Better off to rent a car--because you will do hundreds to thousand dollars worth of wear and tear to your car at a track--even cars that are designed for it still chew up tires.
BTW many tire manufacturers give the tires to these track packages and even if not--they get them for wholesale--so because the track cars are built--they still make money because unless you wreck--all they are out on a real track car is a set of tires--which at wholesale--I believe when I did mine 10 years ago--Pirelli P Zeros were only costing the track 50 a piece--those tires were 300 dollars a piece in a store.You need a minimum of 10k put into a car to make it track worthy--coolers--tran and turbo--high end brakes and rotors--stripping all the weight.
Agreed, this is probably the best one that, Zack has in the bag so far. I really do enjoy him so much more, always have (long time podcast listener). Nothing against Matt in the least, I just prefer Zack and his delivery/demeanor/views. 👍
What is also nice is whatever you don't like about the handling you can easily fix with some aftermarket parts. Some heavier sway bars totally fix the rear end sliding around while turning and hitting bumps. There are like 10 aftermarket exhausts available now with a range of different sounds. You can get down pipes that add the pops/crackles. Aftermarket intake lets you hear the turbo's spool up and the diverter valves are nice and loud with these. Not to mention with a tune people are hitting 400+ WHP. 0-60 in 4 seconds is easily achievable.
This started out really strong. The owner knows his stuff, and was volunteering information, I was sure it was going to be a good one. Then he started trying to narrate it and review his own car, going off on tangents that Zack had to cut off. That was really uncomfortable to watch. I almost stopped it a couple of times. Owner ruined this OneTake.
Just drove this in the UK. What a car. Comfy, specced to a level I couldn't even dream of paying BMW or Audi for. The vented seats are amazing. What I really liked was the head-up display. Being in such a speed camera filled country I found it really useful not having to look down to speed check all the frick'n time. But all this cools stuff would mean nothing if the car didn't have the looks. But this does. It looks brilliant from front to the long way to the back. I thought I might want this car. Now, it's a no-brainer.
I drove these for 9 weeks, in 9 different cities against a Porsche Panamera 4S, Audi A5 Sportback and a BMW 640i Gran Coupe. I'd still buy the Stinger with my money. What they're are saying in this video is pretty accurate.
I loooove my Stinger GT2. "No brainer" was exactly my feeling too, this car checked all my boxes like nothing else currently available at the price. (I have a blue AWD)
If you just want to make it faster and not louder I would recommend HKS Plugs and a Lap3 boost chip or JB4. Also some catch cans. That will run you about a grand for everything. It will also give you about 85 more HP if you run 93 octane and you can really feel the difference. www.k8stingerstore.com is where I get most of my stuff.
What’s Kia’s brand perception in Germany like? Here in the states it’s looked at as a cheap car. Goes unnoticed generally as just another econobox. Their customers are very protective though.
People need to remember that larger engined mid sized four door saloons used to pull about 6 seconds for 0-60 sprints and that was considered very fast a few years ago. This Stinger is a mass produced machine that's faster than many Ferraris or Aston Martins of the not too recent past!
Just got mine last week. GT1 same color 14k off MSRP on my lease. Gets more looks than my Civic Type R and Shelby GT350. Everyone loves it. Who ever is hating because it's a KIA do us a favor, shut up.
Seriously. People get so MAD about KIA it's hilarious. I know a guy with a 2017 Mustang GT who just hates my Stinger GT2. He doesn't like that it can get smoked by a KIA and the KIA has a nicer interior, warranty, cargo space... everything.
So is Genesis. But they're supposed to be a lux brand. Still Kia/Hyundai/Genesis, build cars on the same platform that look way different and don't share body panels.
My last 2 cars were an Audi S5, BMW 435i GC, and my current car, the Stinger GT. The Stinger is like a perfectly melded version of both the S5 and 435i. It has a heavy, substantial feel like the Audi. It has a playfulness like the 435i. It has more body roll than either, but it isn't sloppy and its ride quality is superior to both. Interior quality doesn't compare, though the paint quality is the same as the Audi, but not as good as the BMW. For the price, the Stinger GT is a great bargain starting at $40K for all those hp and that torque. Unlike the GT1 and GT2 (I believe both), the GT doesn't come with the LSD, which is a bit troublesome hitting the throttle in a turn. Also, for the GT's price, it still comes with a good deal of amenities that I wouldn't expect, considering the power and suspension you're already getting for the money.
I'm a Mopar guy but cross shopping this with the Scatpack Charger as my next daily driver.... leaning towards the Stinger cause Dodge has been the same for 15 years
Kia has a nice car in the Stinger, especially at this price point. However, what is missing is an engaging engine sound. I own a 2017 Chevrolet SS with manual 6-speed transmission, and that 6.2 liter LS3 V8 is just a joy to listen to. I am totally entertained just tooling around and listening to my engine. Don't get that at all with the Kia.
Cut, I don't own a Camaro. The Chevrolet SS is a four-door sedan - it is the Holden Commodore made in Australia and sold as an SS in the U.S. 2017 was the last model year made. However, the same LS3 engine has been used in the Camaro. Very strong engine, built to last and sounds wonderful.
1500 for a new exhaust, 600 for down pipes. The Stinger will sound like a Ferrari. Problem solved. I'll post some vids when I get my exhaust installed next week.
@@BezmenovDisciple That's 91 pump gas as far as I know. It's also a piggy back ECU. 400 whp I think also requires a bolt on CAI and catback exhaust at the very least.
@@DouEditz Wrong. This car has bulletproof internals and trans. Trans rated at 1000 NM, Pistons+rods forged. Stock bottom end estimated to 750+. People at Tork and others have disassembled and said KIA overengineered the shit out of this car. Map 2 JB4 with no other mods besides intake, on 91 octane is good for about 80 hp+120 tq at the wheels.
@@danielboyd7810 No way, my coworker has one with just a jb4 and spark plugs made 415whp and 458tq to the wheels he has the gt1 version and i believe its just rear wheel drive
I mean, I feel like this is the kind of car I would recommend for my dad who isn't a car guy but I feel like he would love it. I mean they are a totally reasonable GT for the price.
I'm not a fan of the rear end but for sure KIA has done a great job. The exterior is not as cool as the Dodge Charger but it's KIA and it's way more reliable.
I can absolutely tell you that the R is great, but the feeling between the two cars is completely different. The R in the lower rpm range just doesn't have much power, which is fun because the thrust you get when it reaches the right rpm is enjoyable... but day to day driving can make certain situations interesting. Stinger is far more linear feeling.
Remember back in the '70s and '80s when Japanese makers mimicked German designs? I don't have any issue with Korean makers modeling their products after successful designs. "Luxury" is relative. The Stinger is a very nicely appointed vehicle compared to many like-priced vehicles today and 20 years ago. Great dialogue with the owner, Zack!
Wow the way you guys talk about this car makes it sound like its a 14 second car. This is a sub 5 second car that does the quarter mile in the high 12s straight from the factory. Its an incredibly fast car guys comeon!
Its a fucking A5 lmaoo, not an S5 just stating the fact that it does it within the same time frame as an inline 4 single turbo setup not even boosted all the way. You buy a stinger for the "Speed" theres plenty of sedans out there that are good looking. He said its "an incredibly fast car" which is not for a twinturbo v6
just got a 2018 fully loaded gt for 35k. Loving it so far, but will definitely do some minor suspension mods to fix the bunny hop thing and dial out some of the understeer. Will better sway bars fix this? I've been reading up on Eibach front and read.
I just changed my front tires on my GT2 to 235/40 Pilot Sport 4 S. It helped a lot with understeer and gave me a more confident feel. I don’t have any suspension mods.
Not gonna lie, a bit disappointed on the approach to the Stinger. Every other video, the presenter is a bit blown away on how good and quick the car is but he's just like "yeah, it's nice." lol
Zack doesn't get press cars in his spare time? I think it's funny there were so many press car videos for this car to build hype and the first time Zack drives one it's someone's personal car.
Coming out of a MK7 GTI, I leased a Ceramic Silver Stinger GT1 AWD (same color) for about a week before the dealer took it back over horrible paint damage they inflicted. I was so turned off by the TERRIBLE dealer experience that I jumped ship and ended up in a Giulia Ti Sport for about the same money. I'm happier where I landed, but the Stinger was still a cool, SUPER PRACTICAL car. It turned more heads than my Giulia all day, and the straight line speed and parade float looks were a riot. After my week with it, I started noticing how the handling felt really heavy and pretty sloppy as you neared the limit. The high speed stability was also not up to par for a car with that much power, the adjustable suspension made zero perceptible difference, the gas mileage was abysmal, the touch screen was obnoxiously hard to reach, and the center arm rest felt like it was made of cardboard. I think most of the glowing reviews are of the GT2 with the summer tires, LSD, and top-trim seats, which don't apply on the lower trims.
@@RCXDerp Thanks! I have the Montecarlo Blue with brown leather and yellow calipers. I think the Misano is gorgeous but couldn't find any locally with the LSD. I also hope Alfa can find a foothold here because it is an amazingly fun car. I hope Motortrend naming it COTY helps increase exposure.
in my opinion no point in getting a stinger unless your getting AWD hyundai already makes 350 hp out of a n/a 3.8 liter in the genesis coupe and its lighter and a 2 door and plenty of aftermarket to fully build and twin turbo to make 4 figure hp
The biggest thing is, this is a KIA. And were comparing it to german powerhouses like BMW and Audi. When I was a teenager, KIA was invisible on the road to any car guy. Same with Hyundai. Those 03' elantra types.. just literal invisible "cars" on the road. Kia(and Hyundai), are seriously bringing the business, and really obviously trying to enter the luxury sport market.
For that price you can get a Trailblazer SS do a Texas Speed sleeved block, build the engine, and still do the hood and the front lip for less than $31k looking like a show car. Then later after you get settled add a turbo because the engine's built and you have a 950hp show truck. They look weird.
+falchulk I'm genuinely curious, as I lack the knowledge about American car interiors, other than the stereotype that they mostly suck. Fill me in about US cars that have nice interiors, past and present if you would like.
Cindy Sue yeah the difference is chevy never designed a car with the intention to compete against the german luxury brands. Which is exactly the market kia is trying to penetrate. Just shows what ive always thought about kia/hyundai. They dress their cars up to look nice but they cut corners to try and save a dollar.
So 1. I went out of state and got 3k off msrp, and 2. I leased it and bought it immediately after. Kia is doing a lease incentive where they take 7k off msrp. Just read the forums, very very common.
Yep. I got AWD GT and it's loaded. No sunroof or power gate. Leather, heated steering wheel, Apple carplay, great backup cam, base sound system is actually quite solid. LED headlights and tail lights etc.
The Bimmer will have you in the shop a lot more often than the Stinger ever will, and the Bimmer will cost you at least 2x what you’ll spend with this Stinger, just in service, But, people will pay extra for Status.
Fully loaded Stinger is more like $52k before discounts. I picked up a 2018 with 6k miles identical to one in video for $38k back in August of 2019. At the time it was the best deal I could find within 1000 miles.
Ive been a certified kia tech for 5 years and i will tell u these cars from the factory are underated in hp they are more like 390 to 400 and when we were getting certified on these cars , we spoke to several of the engineer's frok kia, these cars are so dimmed down from the factory , there is a lot of meat left on the bone from the factory, 100hp extra is only a tune and induction away
Although this is true, the long term reliability factor was more a priority with Hyundai's engineers who designed this advanced Lambda II engine than simply extracting the absolute maximum performance out of it. This is not a race car, it's a daily driver but performing GT. Mod it at your own risks and remember that it's a Hyundai Twin-Turbocharged V6, not an indestructible Chevy small block V8. That being said, I love my Kia Stinger GT Limited.
@@AlainHubert That's why I haven't modified mine...might do a cold air intake and a muffler delete, but leave it stock otherwise for longevity....definitely fast enough as is and I'm coming out of a 2018 Mustang GT
@@lisa_houstongir1895
Same here. I've only replaced the exhaust on my Stinger with a Borla Cat Back S-Type. Not even gonna do the cold air intake.
They probably use wheel horsepower instead of crank like the Germans auto makers do
Absolutely agree. I hear ppl say when they designed the 3.3T engine it was meant for 400hp however they had to de-tune it to 365 to make sure it extra reliable for their 10 yr warranty.
The Kia Stinger is what the Nissan Maxima should have become.
Sure wish my Maxima was like that....from 1996....
That's what nissan/infiniti has the red sport for.
Bought a new maxima the year before. It's my family car so I don't care that much. Still would have loved to get this instead.
johnnyr25 yep
This is what the QX60 or whatever it's called should be. But the Infiniti has an awful name and truly terrible steering.
So funny, I bought this guy's '16 R! lol. Peter was really nice, glad to see him enjoying his Stinger!
I own this same Stinger in 2019 exterior and interior GT2 AWD for two weeks as of weeks today.
Let’s not get so nit picky about this car. If this car had four rings or BMW badge it would start in the 70’s and god forgive you leather seats.
Track?! This isn’t tuned for a track. The Audi A5 isn’t tuned for a track either, not is a BMW 540i. This car is fast, period.
Reviewers always talk about tracks, canyon carving, and fast cornering etc..blah,blah, blah. No owner needs to make excuses for owning one. This car gets looks from everyone when I drive it or park. It’s fun to drive on a daily basis.
Very few daily drivers are meant for the track.Eeven 100k plus AMG and M cars go into limp mode after several laps and anything more then 2 hours andyour tires and brake pads are shot--unless you just cruise around the track.There are track packages for less then 1000 dollars that give you some class and give you a few hours behind the wheel of a tuned down stock/race car.BTW tires alone will cost you 700 to 1000 dollars after you ruin them on the track.I would take my stinger only to something like a silver state classic--not a track.BTW KIAS brake rotors are not brembos and you could risk warping those.Better off to rent a car--because you will do hundreds to thousand dollars worth of wear and tear to your car at a track--even cars that are designed for it still chew up tires.
BTW many tire manufacturers give the tires to these track packages and even if not--they get them for wholesale--so because the track cars are built--they still make money because unless you wreck--all they are out on a real track car is a set of tires--which at wholesale--I believe when I did mine 10 years ago--Pirelli P Zeros were only costing the track 50 a piece--those tires were 300 dollars a piece in a store.You need a minimum of 10k put into a car to make it track worthy--coolers--tran and turbo--high end brakes and rotors--stripping all the weight.
This was like a mini podcast about owners perspective of why he bought it. I thoroughly enjoyed it
Agreed, this is probably the best one that, Zack has in the bag so far. I really do enjoy him so much more, always have (long time podcast listener). Nothing against Matt in the least, I just prefer Zack and his delivery/demeanor/views. 👍
What is also nice is whatever you don't like about the handling you can easily fix with some aftermarket parts. Some heavier sway bars totally fix the rear end sliding around while turning and hitting bumps. There are like 10 aftermarket exhausts available now with a range of different sounds. You can get down pipes that add the pops/crackles. Aftermarket intake lets you hear the turbo's spool up and the diverter valves are nice and loud with these. Not to mention with a tune people are hitting 400+ WHP. 0-60 in 4 seconds is easily achievable.
This started out really strong. The owner knows his stuff, and was volunteering information, I was sure it was going to be a good one. Then he started trying to narrate it and review his own car, going off on tangents that Zack had to cut off. That was really uncomfortable to watch. I almost stopped it a couple of times. Owner ruined this OneTake.
Kia is doing great because of the EX BMW M division father Albert Biermann.
Also the design is from Adui's previous director.
So the BMW M division also did well because of the same guy
SuperEurobeat M3 lmao yeah Kia is shot regardless if I want a Beamer I’ll buy bmw obviously but I will never buy a kia.kias are shit
yeah, that's why you get a better warranty with a KIA than a BMW. It's people like you that BMW needs, gullible brand guppies.
Fired from bmw 🤷🏻♂️
Just drove this in the UK. What a car. Comfy, specced to a level I couldn't even dream of paying BMW or Audi for. The vented seats are amazing. What I really liked was the head-up display. Being in such a speed camera filled country I found it really useful not having to look down to speed check all the frick'n time.
But all this cools stuff would mean nothing if the car didn't have the looks. But this does. It looks brilliant from front to the long way to the back. I thought I might want this car. Now, it's a no-brainer.
I drove these for 9 weeks, in 9 different cities against a Porsche Panamera 4S, Audi A5 Sportback and a BMW 640i Gran Coupe. I'd still buy the Stinger with my money. What they're are saying in this video is pretty accurate.
I own a gt1 and i think it’s an amazing car in every facet . I always get compliments and questions about it
I loooove my Stinger GT2. "No brainer" was exactly my feeling too, this car checked all my boxes like nothing else currently available at the price. (I have a blue AWD)
I have a red GT2 and love mine as well. Also AWD..lots of mods, fast as hell and sounds amazing.
Same, purchased a Thunder grey GT2 AWD. Fantastic.
Gt2? .... Lol
I bought the AWD California Red GT 2 and love it. Thinking of modifying. What was (were) the first things you did to it? Costly???
If you just want to make it faster and not louder I would recommend HKS Plugs and a Lap3 boost chip or JB4. Also some catch cans. That will run you about a grand for everything. It will also give you about 85 more HP if you run 93 octane and you can really feel the difference. www.k8stingerstore.com is where I get most of my stuff.
Zach you’ve progressed a lot with the one takes . You seem pretty much at home now !
got mine to 271km/h on the Autobahn here in germany yesterday. Impressive
What’s Kia’s brand perception in Germany like? Here in the states it’s looked at as a cheap car. Goes unnoticed generally as just another econobox. Their customers are very protective though.
@@zalien6 Pretty much the same here
Is that delivery plastic on the bottom of the steering wheel?
That's what it looks like to me. Someone didn't PDI it properly.
Maybe the owner put it on there to protect the steering wheel
Neah, easy to miss if you're not looking from the angle we got and you're not expecting the steering wheel to have a protection there.
I keep deliver plastic on pretty often
Oh nooooo the horror
Looks like someone forgot to take the factory wrapping off the bottom of the steering wheel.
Matthew Rogers gasp* oh nooooo
People need to remember that larger engined mid sized four door saloons used to pull about 6 seconds for 0-60 sprints and that was considered very fast a few years ago. This Stinger is a mass produced machine that's faster than many Ferraris or Aston Martins of the not too recent past!
Just got mine last week. GT1 same color 14k off MSRP on my lease. Gets more looks than my Civic Type R and Shelby GT350. Everyone loves it. Who ever is hating because it's a KIA do us a favor, shut up.
Nice. diggin it. I took a break for a while and Zack has settled into it now. Good videos.
I like this episode! Nice conversation! Makes me be aware of what this car has comparing to other cars. Might keep rewatching for future references.
This car has ruffled so many feathers....Kia is a serious brand now.....just take one for a drive.
Seriously. People get so MAD about KIA it's hilarious. I know a guy with a 2017 Mustang GT who just hates my Stinger GT2. He doesn't like that it can get smoked by a KIA and the KIA has a nicer interior, warranty, cargo space... everything.
So is Genesis. But they're supposed to be a lux brand. Still Kia/Hyundai/Genesis, build cars on the same platform that look way different and don't share body panels.
8:54 is that a fart?
Michael Grennek hahaha I heard that too I think it was the crappy exhausts attempt at a crackle after a gear shift lol
Sounds like someone sh*t their pants
Michael Grennek hmmm...let's check this out give me a sec..let me find 8:54 real quick...
Michael Grennek yeah that was definitely a fart. Someone fuckn shat themselves!!hahah
😀
Everyone in the comments
* where is Matt*
The response
*He flew off a cliff in a ball of 🔥*
No really, where is Matt?
He is only doing press cars and or really REALLY special cars but he is focusing on his podcast and other projects
@@deandrelottier7817 thanks bro!
Who the eff is this guy? He broke the first rule in presentation... did not introduce himself.
I heard Chassis gave him ball cancer
Zack did a great job. I thoroughly enjoyed it
My last 2 cars were an Audi S5, BMW 435i GC, and my current car, the Stinger GT. The Stinger is like a perfectly melded version of both the S5 and 435i. It has a heavy, substantial feel like the Audi. It has a playfulness like the 435i. It has more body roll than either, but it isn't sloppy and its ride quality is superior to both. Interior quality doesn't compare, though the paint quality is the same as the Audi, but not as good as the BMW. For the price, the Stinger GT is a great bargain starting at $40K for all those hp and that torque. Unlike the GT1 and GT2 (I believe both), the GT doesn't come with the LSD, which is a bit troublesome hitting the throttle in a turn. Also, for the GT's price, it still comes with a good deal of amenities that I wouldn't expect, considering the power and suspension you're already getting for the money.
I heard sway bars change everything
He looks like the guy who drives a Kia Stinger.
How could you tell? You'd only see the back of his head driving that slow ass BMW.
He also looks like the type of guy who drives a Golf R. Source: am a pale white guy who drives a Golf R.
That stings
Lol exactly what I thought
Oh my God I was going to comment the same thing hahahaha
Really liked this one take. Felt it was very informative and learned a lot of the daily life of the car. Awesome owner too.
I want to see Kia do more for enthusiasts like this, something smaller with a manual trans would be reaaaaalllll nice maybe a rwd coupe
Hyundai g70 with a stick
Or a higher performance forte5
They will. I'd look for a hot hatch first, tho
Raymond Reddington drives a stinger now ?
I'm a Mopar guy but cross shopping this with the Scatpack Charger as my next daily driver.... leaning towards the Stinger cause Dodge has been the same for 15 years
Timothy Weatherspoon I have a scatpack now and thinking of getting one of these instead 😔
peter is the exact kinda guy i would expect to buy a stinger
I wish someone would compare the Genesis 5.0 r-spec with a top spec stinger. Not just acceleration, but suspension, Trans, interior, etc
This car looks good even in an awful colour. The HiChroma Red is absolutely AWESOME on a Stinger
No color beats the Pantera Metallic.
this is close to nardo gray and i like it
Ceramic silver is one of the best colors. Was really looking for one myself. Ended up getting a pearl white with red interior
After looking at this video now I want this car even more!!! Just with AWD though ☺️ 😬
I have a RWD GT1 and it's more than adequate traction! However I don't have any snow here in sunny Phoenix.
RWD offers plenty of traction unless you live in a wintry area.
Kia has a nice car in the Stinger, especially at this price point. However, what is missing is an engaging engine sound. I own a 2017 Chevrolet SS with manual 6-speed transmission, and that 6.2 liter LS3 V8 is just a joy to listen to. I am totally entertained just tooling around and listening to my engine. Don't get that at all with the Kia.
Cut, I don't own a Camaro. The Chevrolet SS is a four-door sedan - it is the Holden Commodore made in Australia and sold as an SS in the U.S. 2017 was the last model year made. However, the same LS3 engine has been used in the Camaro. Very strong engine, built to last and sounds wonderful.
Chester and the commodore is a Opel Insignia. A insignia/commodore is never evner going to be a sporty car like this Stinger.
Chester Sorry the SS commodore is not the same car. My bad
Magnaflow makes an exhaust system for the Stinger.
1500 for a new exhaust, 600 for down pipes. The Stinger will sound like a Ferrari. Problem solved. I'll post some vids when I get my exhaust installed next week.
And in case you do want more power... these are doing 400whp and 500wtq with a JB4. Imagine this engine in a new Genesis Coupe...
They say the new coupe will be in 2020 but it looks like it will be a luxury car and not like the 2013 + Genesis coupe.
Booooom goes the kia
@@BezmenovDisciple That's 91 pump gas as far as I know. It's also a piggy back ECU. 400 whp I think also requires a bolt on CAI and catback exhaust at the very least.
@@DouEditz Wrong. This car has bulletproof internals and trans. Trans rated at 1000 NM, Pistons+rods forged. Stock bottom end estimated to 750+. People at Tork and others have disassembled and said KIA overengineered the shit out of this car. Map 2 JB4 with no other mods besides intake, on 91 octane is good for about 80 hp+120 tq at the wheels.
@@danielboyd7810 No way, my coworker has one with just a jb4 and spark plugs made 415whp and 458tq to the wheels he has the gt1 version and i believe its just rear wheel drive
I mean, I feel like this is the kind of car I would recommend for my dad who isn't a car guy but I feel like he would love it. I mean they are a totally reasonable GT for the price.
Good review zack...keep up the great work..stingers a cool ride for a four door sports sedan
I just grabbed a used GT2 for 25k! Super happy.
I'm not a fan of the rear end but for sure KIA has done a great job. The exterior is not as cool as the Dodge Charger but it's KIA and it's way more reliable.
Golf R peak torque is delivered at 1800 rpm, right? Not sure what the owner means by "big difference".
Probably because the Golf R has nearly 100ft-lb less torque than this does.
I can absolutely tell you that the R is great, but the feeling between the two cars is completely different. The R in the lower rpm range just doesn't have much power, which is fun because the thrust you get when it reaches the right rpm is enjoyable... but day to day driving can make certain situations interesting. Stinger is far more linear feeling.
This guy was great on camera! Very enjoyable to listen to. Sick color too!
Remember back in the '70s and '80s when Japanese makers mimicked German designs? I don't have any issue with Korean makers modeling their products after successful designs. "Luxury" is relative. The Stinger is a very nicely appointed vehicle compared to many like-priced vehicles today and 20 years ago. Great dialogue with the owner, Zack!
Wow the way you guys talk about this car makes it sound like its a 14 second car. This is a sub 5 second car that does the quarter mile in the high 12s straight from the factory. Its an incredibly fast car guys comeon!
thatfeel ehhh boring
It's not that fast especially for a 50k twinturbo v6
@@VaunShiz my slightly tuned 2018 A5 does it in 4.8 sec lol
0-60mph in 4.8sec with all-wheel-drive? That's nothing to brag about buddy.
These get from 0-62mph in 4.8sec with RWD.
Its a fucking A5 lmaoo, not an S5 just stating the fact that it does it within the same time frame as an inline 4 single turbo setup not even boosted all the way. You buy a stinger for the "Speed" theres plenty of sedans out there that are good looking. He said its "an incredibly fast car" which is not for a twinturbo v6
Published Sept 10th and the owner doesn't know that all yellow stingers get a free repaint and were also credited with $5k cash? Crazy.
peak torque at 1300?
I wonder if any of you haters have actually driven one. They are super nice and great to drive, ESPECIALLY for the money.
Of course they haven’t. They are too insecure to drive a nice care and not care about other people’s perception of hem.
Is the owner still happy with RWD? Seems like the most entertaining choice.
What watch is Zack wearing?
Clothing.
Wrist
Kia and Hyundai have really been stepping up their game!
just got a 2018 fully loaded gt for 35k. Loving it so far, but will definitely do some minor suspension mods to fix the bunny hop thing and dial out some of the understeer. Will better sway bars fix this? I've been reading up on Eibach front and read.
Just got my AWD GT for 33k++. Love it
I just changed my front tires on my GT2 to 235/40 Pilot Sport 4 S. It helped a lot with understeer and gave me a more confident feel. I don’t have any suspension mods.
Please do another one of these.
owner looks like a kia stinger
yes sir idk why i fucking found this hilarious
HAaa true, but I'd hang with him, interesting guy
My son bought a GT. It's an amazing car, I drive it every chance I get.
BMW 430i is 90K here in Aus, A5 is 93K and the Stinger GT is 65K, that's a big difference!
Ugghh I love red interior leather..
Not gonna lie, a bit disappointed on the approach to the Stinger. Every other video, the presenter is a bit blown away on how good and quick the car is but he's just like "yeah, it's nice." lol
Zack doesn't get press cars in his spare time? I think it's funny there were so many press car videos for this car to build hype and the first time Zack drives one it's someone's personal car.
Coming out of a MK7 GTI, I leased a Ceramic Silver Stinger GT1 AWD (same color) for about a week before the dealer took it back over horrible paint damage they inflicted. I was so turned off by the TERRIBLE dealer experience that I jumped ship and ended up in a Giulia Ti Sport for about the same money. I'm happier where I landed, but the Stinger was still a cool, SUPER PRACTICAL car. It turned more heads than my Giulia all day, and the straight line speed and parade float looks were a riot. After my week with it, I started noticing how the handling felt really heavy and pretty sloppy as you neared the limit. The high speed stability was also not up to par for a car with that much power, the adjustable suspension made zero perceptible difference, the gas mileage was abysmal, the touch screen was obnoxiously hard to reach, and the center arm rest felt like it was made of cardboard. I think most of the glowing reviews are of the GT2 with the summer tires, LSD, and top-trim seats, which don't apply on the lower trims.
I think the Giulia is cooler anyway, what color did you get? I hope Alfa keeps making cars for USA.
@@RCXDerp Thanks! I have the Montecarlo Blue with brown leather and yellow calipers. I think the Misano is gorgeous but couldn't find any locally with the LSD. I also hope Alfa can find a foothold here because it is an amazingly fun car. I hope Motortrend naming it COTY helps increase exposure.
perfect for some high quality sport spring, mske it this little bit lower and sportier.
Nice car. So sad that it's so expensive here in Denmark. It start at what in dollars would be 130.000 ish :/
Who makes your shades and what style are they??
It's ok looking. I would call it a decent looking sedan with some sporty bits.
It has forged internals boss what most people wont tell you
in my opinion no point in getting a stinger unless your getting AWD hyundai already makes 350 hp out of a n/a 3.8 liter in the genesis coupe and its lighter and a 2 door and plenty of aftermarket to fully build and twin turbo to make 4 figure hp
The biggest thing is, this is a KIA. And were comparing it to german powerhouses like BMW and Audi. When I was a teenager, KIA was invisible on the road to any car guy. Same with Hyundai. Those 03' elantra types.. just literal invisible "cars" on the road.
Kia(and Hyundai), are seriously bringing the business, and really obviously trying to enter the luxury sport market.
For that price you can get a Trailblazer SS do a Texas Speed sleeved block, build the engine, and still do the hood and the front lip for less than $31k looking like a show car. Then later after you get settled add a turbo because the engine's built and you have a 950hp show truck. They look weird.
Zac you do a fine job, hard act to follow.
I like the new intro.
I wonder if I could get this car here in Thailand. Good video and a great dynamic between the two of you throughout the video.
how much is a track fee in los angeles.....if they will drive in a race track they can max the potential of the cars
Kia Optima + BMW M5 Designers = Stinger
Kia is offering the yellow stinger owners a free repainting of the hood roof and decklid and they are also giving the owners f $5,000 for the trouble
The interior of the Stinger GT is really nice for a $30-$35K Optima, in a $50K car, it's just OK.
He paid $40k for this, not $50K
Mike well American interiors have never been nice, so............
Rumblestrip.NET Funny, same could be said of most European cars starting from 35k. Why's it only a problem for Kia?
+falchulk
I'm genuinely curious, as I lack the knowledge about American car interiors, other than the stereotype that they mostly suck. Fill me in about US cars that have nice interiors, past and present if you would like.
agreed. been inside one in the show room, the interior looks better in pictures than in person.
that interior is so damn nice.
Mid-4's 0-60? Ehhh I gotta see it. Sounds like AWD numbers but I'm sure the rwd isn't too far behind. Great review.
I have to laugh at the driver saying the car is "pretty quick." These guys are enthusiasts driving on canyon roads.
it sort of sounds like a v8 in the video, it's a great cool dad car
Isn’t there a JB4 type tune for these now?
Tork motorsports has one they are working on look at their videos just over 11 seconds at the strip.
Impressive car but hate that little taillight strip
I can’t tell if I love how it looks or fucking hate it.
Zac, you and the Stinger owner should do another video together. You both comment well. Definitely no floof!
Something different needs to be done with this channel because since Zac has taken over, hardly anyone has subscribed
Nice review Zack
Guess I've been gone for awhile. But who the hell is this guy?
Pretty disappointed to hear theyre having paint issues on brand new cars. My bmw that is 11yrs old has flawless paint
Look at what happened to GM/ Chevy vehicles in the 90s the white paint was falling off them because of bad primer.
Cindy Sue yeah the difference is chevy never designed a car with the intention to compete against the german luxury brands. Which is exactly the market kia is trying to penetrate.
Just shows what ive always thought about kia/hyundai. They dress their cars up to look nice but they cut corners to try and save a dollar.
@@smgs921 You mean how Mercedes had fake muffler tips?
J73DD37J not sure about that, my bmw exhaust tips are real though. So were the audi i had before that.
My 94 camry still has glossy paint and drives like new
Wait he got this thing for 40k?! The dealers here won't budge off that 50k mark!
You can find them with a certified preowned warranty used for about 40k.
Mike he said it was a GT2 with RWD
There are some dealers that have $10,000 discounts on these
Got mine GT for 36,500. Msrp is 39,250 before delivery
So 1. I went out of state and got 3k off msrp, and 2. I leased it and bought it immediately after. Kia is doing a lease incentive where they take 7k off msrp. Just read the forums, very very common.
365hp, not crazy and just totally fine
The new normal is 400-500hp then I look at my 4 cylinder 185hp 😢
Great Review Guys. One of the most relaxed, natural and informative one takes i have seen.
I would love to own this car but people trying to get me to pay 600 a month. I am sorry as much as I love the car that is not going to happen
And it has a killer stereo.
Where is Matt?
My mom got a all black one and it looks the same inside
I'm in. Kia you won me. :)
Top review, awesome car for the money.
I really don't see this car being worth $52,000 Canadian.
Heading says the Stinger is a German vehicle, but it’s actually from S.Korea. KIA.
This car is very high on my list, though I would only be going for a GT trim with AWD. The GT2 is too expensive for what its worth.
Yep. I got AWD GT and it's loaded. No sunroof or power gate. Leather, heated steering wheel, Apple carplay, great backup cam, base sound system is actually quite solid. LED headlights and tail lights etc.
The car is not selling because there is no space in it the accord has more space with a trunk
Anybody else miss Matt? This dude just doesn’t cut it....
Look up Tork Motorsports, see what they are doing to a brand new stinger!
Why would anyone buy a fully loaded Stinger for $40k+ when you could buy a 2015-2016 BMW M4 or a 2014-2016 C7 LT3 Stingray for $40-45k???
Because in two years the fully loaded Stinger will be under 30K and still be under warranty for 60K miles.
@@wizardmix Plus being out of warranty in a BMW (or any Euro car) is a very bad place to be.... Start greasing up your hole!!!
The Bimmer will have you in the shop a lot more often than the Stinger ever will, and the Bimmer will cost you at least 2x what you’ll spend with this Stinger, just in service,
But, people will pay extra for Status.
Fully loaded Stinger is more like $52k before discounts. I picked up a 2018 with 6k miles identical to one in video for $38k back in August of 2019. At the time it was the best deal I could find within 1000 miles.
It weighs 4000 pounds. If they can bring it down to 3500 pounds, improve cornering performance, they would have a real winner........