The Apollo 13 of Cars: Why The KIA Stinger was a "Successful Failure"
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Today, I drive the KIA Stinger for the last time as a "new" car and talk about why it is so special to me, and how I think it has really shaped KIA's reputation.
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This car is awesome. I have driven it before, so nice. Great story from you as well. I'm not surprised about the customer service you received from them. I sell Kias now and I own an Optima now. Drove an Optima GT the other day, another awesome thing though discontinued now. Keep up the good work J. You do some great content and review some unusual cars.
More like a Mondeo than a Maserati imho.
I’m 6 4 btw and I fit quite nicely in my gt2
@@joelamosun9341 if you ever get the chance please do drive one. I’ll never sell mine until the wheel fall off.
@@lhwildcat21 I have driven a Stinger before. Amazing thing to drive. Back end can get twitchy easily though but it's a rear wheel drive vehicle, in the UK anyway. But felt really solid and well built and equipped with toys like no man's business. I would own one but a bit put off by the short service intervals.
Just to be clear.... this man absolutely deserves everything that has come his way.
I put a request out at the last minute back in 2016 to help with a prom run for my younger brother, after having just had a family death the focus was on the funeral, which was on the same day as the prom, the car for prom was an oversight on our part, but in true legendary style I got a reply from James who offered to take my brother in his Evora, I will be forever greatful for your generosity.
That's so heart-worming... God bless you guys and this creator!
How you know?? You nvr even met the guy. Just to be clear 😂
That's solid 💯 👌
If you're thinking of buying a Stinger...DON'T! Multiple defects, 4 recalls ALREADY, rust coming through paint and chrome. All around bad decision when I bought this car. Save the hassle, save your money and buy a different brand of car. Managers and service department cannot seem to communicate so I'm hiring an attorney to get my money back for this overpriced piece of metal. Paint job really sucks. I have cracked paint from front windshield to back windshield and was told not to wash the car! Are you kidding me? Most expensive car I've ever owned and I can't even wash it?! I'm so done! I want my money back!
@@dfsdh432v9 was it in an accident?
I've owned the 2.0L and currently the 3.3L and in 5 years of Stinger ownership they've never put a foot wrong mechanically, always put a smile on my face and been brilliant. I genuinely look forward to every drive in it and always look back at it when walking away. 6000 mile/6 month services aren't really that much of a problem. Every other service is just an oil and oil filter change and you can get 6 services/3 years of servicing for around £1000 through a dealer service plan. Fantastic value to maintain a near 400hp V6 car. Brilliant car and I feel sorry for the snobs who dismissed it. Ultimately it's their loss.
I've owned the same as you... first one was a 2018 2.0 in Panthera Grey, put 24k on it in 3 years. Now I've got a the 3.3 with 45k on the clock and absolutely love every second - just put new cold air intakes on it too
I love the Stinger, congrats - and enjoy it! Unfortunately, I can't afford the 3.3L... i do consider the 2.0 though, is it also worth it?
Btw, brilliant car story - thank you Jay
I always like how it looks and definitely want one in the future.
What's the 2 litre like compared to the 3.3 litre? Please and thanks.
@@chrismcfarlane8996 The 3.3 only has one trim, however the 2.0L has two trims (gt line & gt line s). I had the higher trim on the 2.0L (gt line s) which is specced the same as the 3.3. Only differences were smaller and less powerful engine (roughly 100hp less), 18 inch wheels instead of 19 inch on 3.3, no brembo brakes and no adaptive suspension. Other than that it's the same car. The 2.0L was still faster than most 'normal' cars but I found myself wanting the full fat version of the Stinger and interestingly mpg isn't that different (maybe 5mpg better in the 2.0L).
I personally prefer the 3.3 for the instant power delivery (twin turbo instead of single turbo on the 2.0L). As you would expect, the 3.3 has more torque and overall the better choice of engine, in my humble opinion.
I think this is one of the nicest, warmest things I've seen on youtube in a while. Raw passion, emotion, and storytelling, I shed a tear watching (maybe a bit more). Thank you for this James
And honesty.
The onion ninjas got you, huh?
Me too..
Absolutely - James, I don't know what you've got... but it works. We know there've been a few bumps along the way - as we all have in life. Thank you for being so honest and open, showing us that if we stay true, stay real, ask for help - you can make it. Wishing you well and looking forward to your continued success.
Agreed, much respect James👍❤️
James, I've watched a number of your videos for a bit now; but I've just discovered this one. I have to say, this one struck a chord with me... it's a touching story and was rewarding to listen to. As a proud American who is saddened by how many Europeans view this country because of the way the worldwide media portrays us, I'm so glad that you were able to experience the warmth and hospitality of the average American. The worst of us get publicized in sensationalized news stories about crime and arrogance and ignorance. That's not us. We welcome people with open arms and can't wait to share what we have with people for the first time.
I finally hit "subscribe". I don't know what took me so long, but you earn all the subs you get. Keep up the great work. I might not agree with all your opinions about all things at all times, but I respect your viewpoint and am always entertained.
Your videos on the Stinger were part of my decision to buy one. I have had my 3.3 for 2.5 years now and done 36k miles. Love it to pieces and genuinely turns heads everywhere and starts so many conversations. I have an aftermarket Borla exhaust which really makes the V6 sing and how it should have been from the factory in my opinion. I never plan on selling and love it dearly. Great video as always
same, I have 40k miles and drove it from Atlanta to Santa Barbara and back, I can't see myself selling it
Same here. Having seen how amazed Jay was with the Stinger, I went out and tested one. Fell in love with it and have been enjoying it now for about 16 months now. Did a few 900+km journeys in it already. Brilliant car!
I can't wait to be able to grab myself a stinger hopefully in the next 3-4 years hopefully. Hoping the used market on these is kind or they bring something similar out later down the road that makes it worth buying new like this current stinger is.
@@rennwolfwolfgangkriegl I'm about to drive to Italy in a week from the UK. 1k miles each way with a few stops in Switzerland there and back too. Cannot wait to blast it along those beautiful roads and eat up the miles
@@alexlee-isted5046 Have a wonderful time! The Stinger was made for those kind of trips, like all great GTs really.
That really reasonated with me James. I'm a Brit from Worcester UK (A little older than you, the 80s were my "primetime") and my life journey has taken me all the way to SoCal via Canada, Virginia, and Pennsyvania. It was a completely unplanned journey as my career went from strength to strength from a small town UK engineering apprentice. My surreal moment was a business trip to San Fransisco, a convertible V8 Mustang rental in tow, and driving over the Golden Gate, Top Down, as Adam and the Ants came on Sirius FM 🙂It was just a "pinch yourself" moment, and yeah, also teary. Along the way a 911 Carrera S came along - A dream from my boyhood in the 70's- all because of the little opportunities and chances you take in life. Well done mate!
Thanks for sharing the memories Paul. I also have fond memories of driving a drop top Mustang over the Golden Gate bridge... though I think it was Steely Dan playing! And it was a V6.
I also come from Worcester and i'm about your age Paul, but I only got as far as Bewdley with dreams of driving a Mustang... 🙈
@@CyclicscoobyFlyer They're not all that good tbh, but nothing wrong with dreams...live for them!
What an incredible love letter to an incredible car.
As a born and raised Buffalonian who knows the exact travel time to Nashville Tennessee is right around exactly 12 hours and as a huge Kia Stinger fan, this story really hit near and dear to my heart.
Odds are the Stinger will become a classic car in the future. For one it was a reasonably priced halo car in an era where none of those drop below 7 figures, the fact KIA decided to build a sedan in a world where most people buy crossovers will probably place it among the few memorable saloons of this decade. If you want one, now's probably the best time to find one. Also, on a more personal note, I discoved your channel years ago with a video about the Mercedes Benz CLA. It's nice to hear these stories, as a bit of inspiration to us all!
nope,,,not a classic,,,,people will drive these cars till they fall apart and off to the junkyard,,,that name kia won't help,,,it will be a classic to those who owned them mostly
I agree and what current BMW wil be a future classic or even running in 7 years....
Agreed. It's one of those sleeper hits like the Mondeo ST220. Overlooked by most, but respected and cherished by those in the know.
yeah,,,,but it's a bmw,,,,this is a kia,,,get what i am saying???,,,,i think this is the attitude,,,and part of the reason this car is going away
Calling this car a future classic is stretching it mate
I really enjoy hearing about the journey of your channel along with a car review, genuinely fascinating and it restored my faith in humanity a little to hear how much help you got from the car community to make it happen, great vid.
I agree, nice back story
Fantastic to see a Great You Tuber showing genuine gratitude for the kindness of manufacturer's & good fortune that his hard work has produced.
Long may it continue.
This guy deserves a sub, even if I don't ever watch another vid of his. This was so well shot, composed, and doesn't come off gimmicky or over indulgent. Lovely stuff.
Ah, mate, not gonna lie thought you were a bit up yourself few years ago when I came across your channel, but very much warmed to you over the years, and this genuinely brought a tear to my eye. Bloody lovely video. And clearly never got near a Stinger, but always thought what a handsome motor car. And so happy how Kia / Hyundai have broken out of that Daewoo / Proton niche to become a proper innovative player 👍😃
I got you in the end :)
Amazing story. i felt that when you said you cried, its like you achieved something and you were really proud of it and couldnt believe you made it to that point. keep climbing, youre not done yet!
Absolute legend mate. You got across in a way that had me looking for used Stingers 7 minutes into the vid. Cheers and best of luck moving forward. We'll be here to see it
Buy one! I'm on my second and just love it
Quite an ugly car infortunately
@@stoutain Yeah but people move out of the way. 😂
@@mattthompson8363 I would but where I'm from there's only 3 for sale country wide and all with the 4 pot diesel.
@@stoutain The only detail I really hate are those appendixes on the rear tail lights. Apart from that, I reckon the car is quite a looker.
This has quickly become my most watched TH-cam channel. I find myself watching videos about cars that I would usually never care about, but the way that James delivers his content is incredible.
Thanks Alex! That's really kind
I’m 70, been a car guy all my life. I have owned at least 40 cars. From TurboRs (2) BMWs, MB, WRX, MX5, 911 etc. I now have a GT2 MY23 twin T.
This car is just wonderful. This might be my last car. So it’s a keeper. I don’t give a crap about the badge, this car is very special.
This brought back some of those memories having subscribed to the channel from fairly early on. I love this heartfelt account, but would suggest one of these is a great fit for your fleet, no matter how popular it is in your town. Even if owned briefly, wouldn’t that be a fitting tribute?
It will happen, one day
You’re always looking for a 4-door, Jay!!!
I started motoring journalism back in 2013 when I was studying automotive engineering. This content brings so many memories of mine. Thanks for sharing this story James. You have become pride and prime member of British motoring journalism.
Extremely kind words!
Had a 2018 GTS and absolutely adored it. I cried for three days after it went ha ha! Seriously, it's a car that gets under your skin and you can't help but love it. One day I'd love another but to anyone looking for an owner's opinion on these things - then just get one! You'll love it too.
Why did it get under your skin
@@VaanRavi I haven't driven one so can't really comment (would love to) but I'm sure it's due to a lot of the compliments Jay gives it as well.
if you adored it so much, why did you already get rid of it?
@@haakn COVID came and buggered everything up... Hard choices had to be made and sadly the car had to go.
@@VaanRavi It's a proper analogue driving experience like an old school M5 - but then look who tuned the chassis and maybe that explains why. You can chuck it around for fun but it's got this supreme feeling of control, it never feels like you can't get it back from the limit. The only thing it lacks is a decent exhaust note - they quietened it down so much it's barely audible in the cabin which is a shame but nothing an aftermarket exhaust can't fix.
Yet another superb video. I agree with you on the Stinger. I really, really like them. I have a 2021 Genesis G70 3.3T AWD which is the slightly faster, sharper version of the Stinger. Have met Stinger owners at car meets and we always have a good chat about the cars. Keep up the fantastic work. Its greatly appreciated by all of us!
I'm a 75 Yr. Old 335d driver and consider this a superb video . Your passion, story telling, and production is excellent. Thank you
Absolutely love this video. I have the GT2 and she is my baby. I constantly get stopped by people asking what it is and they love this car. Sad that they discontinued it. 😢
This is just a heartwarming video, I’m so glad all the pieces fell together and all your hard work is recognised and rewarded!
I've owned 3 Kia's. What I've loved about all of them is that they never tried to be something they weren't. The Stinger tries to be something, and it succeeds. My dream car isn't a Bugatti, or a Lambo, or whatever. I want a Stinger. And I WILL have it. I am glad your video popped up in my feed. This was great to watch.
You're absolutely right. I think that to a point, supercars like Lamborghinis or Bugattis become boring. They don't feel like cars anymore. The Kia Stinger is now cheap, as it's underappreciated, and it's probably the best sedan I've ever seen.
Wow credit to you and Kia for such an amazing journey, what goes around comes around, I want one....
I bought my GT the first month available for purchase after James may reviewed it on GT in 2018. I still love it. I have done some stuff to it. Makes over 500Hp and does mid 11s. gets up to 30mpg, seats 4 comfortably. Done many road trips in it. Its fun and reliable. people still look at it like they've never seen one. blows peoples minds when they realize how fast it is. Its just a great underdog car.
I owned a 2.2 diesel Stinger for 2 and a half years and in December I received my Stinger GT. Absolutely fantastic cars, even the diesel one. Brings you great joy while driving it. I bought the GT knowing that they will cease the production. In my oppinion the STINGER IS ONE OF THE LAST REAL CARS suited for petrolheads and a real great price, if you don`t mind the badge. It will be a fantastic collection car in the near future. Your story was full of passion and emotion. Congrats.
Lovely story. I've never tracked my GT1. But I have hooned with it and gotten up to 155 MPH on Hwy 95 in Oregon, back in 2019. An experience that I have not sought to recreate, since it was a perfect set of conditions, most essentially, I had the highway to myself, traffic having been held back miles down the road at the critical time. The Stinger is as stable at that speed as at 70 MPH, which I found thoroughly gratifying to prove to myself. I've had the GT1 brand new for well over five and a half trouble-free years. And we've had a second Stinger, a 2019 2.0L Premium, for c. a year. I love driving both of them. And, I have been on the Tail of the Dragon, once, four times up and down it, in the GT1, back in 2019, just because.
I think this is a a brilliant upload. I'd never really given the Stinger the time of day until now...
It has to be said though, that you really come across well in this. A really emotional and enjoyable watch...
Many thanks for sharing.
I love the Stinger. I drive the 2.0 as my daily commuter . It's been an absolute fantastic car. I am tempted to pick up a 3.3 before they are all gone for good.
Loved this video, James.
As a Stinger GTS owner myself, I’d like to say a huge thanks to you. Your earlier videos on the Stinger are what really convinced me that buying one was the right choice.
I previously had an RS5 B9 (had to sell due to my business closing) and most would consider the Kia a downgrade - I certainly did at the time.
But, truthfully, I’ve grown to love the Kia far more than I ever loved the Audi. I’m now in to my 3rd year of ownership and still adore it.
I’m in a ‘67 plate and am actually looking to upgrade to a facelift model this year (ideally a new one… never purchased a brand new car before). The plan then is to stay in a Stinger for as long as humanly possible!
Again, great video James - keep up the good work!
I am in a similar situation. I'm an Audi guy and am debating on whether my next car should be the Audi S5 or the Stinger GT2. I keep going back and forth...
Love the story. Very well done. The Stinger has been a dream car of mine since it came out. I have a 2020 GT2. Fully loaded. I love it. Thanks for the video
Again a lovely piece of genuine story telling, beautifully done, with a car review tacked on (I mean that as a compliment, really!) That’s the right way to do it, so much more involving than the approach of many TH-camrs. I really like your new direction, it feels like you’ve found your niche here.
Regarding KIA, your spot on, it’s incredible how quickly they’ve advanced. I’ve retired my Porsche 997.1 to a weekend car in favour of an EV6 GT and it’s shocked me that I really don’t miss the Porsche. I even took it on a trackday when it was just too wet for my track car!
I had a UK Stinger GTS and truly loved it. Rarely have a had cars that generate such positive interactions from people, out and about. Great video, love the story, thanks.
I have the newer 2.5t version, and a lot of people give it gruff. I love it! It absolutely rips effortlessly up to 100mph, and makes a great family car! Great video! You really tell great stories! ❤
Is the 2.5 faster than accord 2.0 and elantran n?
I have a 2019 GT with the 3.3TT, and honestly the 2.5T is probably the way to go. 300 hp would be just right for that car. (But 370hp is hilarious.)
@@TurboHappyCar nice, what do you think about the 2.0 stinger?
@Lester Anthony I haven't driven one, but I've read/heard they have a bit of turbo lag but they definitely aren't slow. I can tell you that the car, in general, is fantastic. I'm an average dude size and the ergonomics are perfect for me.
@@TurboHappyCar oh nice. Where do you think the 2.5 stinger competes with?
I'm only watching this video now after having it saved to my playlist. Though it's an old video for you, this is timeous for me in the message it delivers for the time I'm in. Thank you for sharing the inspirational story of how you got the Stinger from Kia USA for your travels. It's of great help for my own endeavours as a small fish in a big pond (non-car related).
Wishing you and your channel all the best and may you continue to grow. Loving the content.
I really enjoyed this James. Video was real and heartfelt. Interesting to me as I seriously considered buying a Stinger. Two things that ultimately nixed that decision was, the fact I could never reconcile the reflector in the rear quarter, it just doesn't fit an otherwise quite handsome car and, the dealer local to me are less than wholesome people to deal with. So, I bought a Genesis G70. In Australia, we get the 3.3 twin turbo six, and aside from some suspension tweaks, it is basically a Stinger under the skin. A lot of what you had to say in this video really resonates with me. The driving prowess and just how quick they are mostly. The Genesis is a bit nicer inside, but I really understand the fondness you have for the Stinger.
The Genesis is a great choice! They're slowly making their way over here too
I also have a Stinger here in Australia. Many were sold here as we like our rear wheel drive cars. I love driving it and as you said it puts a smile on your face. Kia is very strong here as well. Perhaps one day it will return as a Stinger GT EV.
I actually wish they can update the K5 (called Optima in some market) with the Stinger engine and chassis. Wish to see a 3.3 V6 AWD K5.
This is your best video by far. The stories, your journey and the Stinger all came together beautifully. I appreciate the in depth journey.
Your stories are inspiring and heartwarming at the same time
I am pleased you liked the Stinger. I had one of the early ones for about six months and really enjoyed it. I told many friends about it but nobody seemed to get past the Kia badge.
Great video James! I hope you were able to stay at the Seneca Lodge when you went to the Glen. It has a lot of history and it's where the racers stay when not camping at the track.
That sounds like a dream come true. Honestly inspiring for me to not give up on wanting to write about cars. You deserve every good thing you have/will have! The effort and love put into the vids is tangible.
Great story, James.
Like you, a former Evora 400 owner.
i bought one new in 2017 & just traded it in for a totally different type car but loved every minute in it. 48,000 miles in 6 yrs. Originally purchased it - quite possibly influenced by your channel.
...enjoy your videos & stories!
With your unique combination of passion, humility & story telling style - you deserve great continued success!
I love how your story intertwines with this car... And, that makes me like it even more, and makes it even cooler than just the car I fell for in the JayEmm & Friends video. Great stuff!
That is a really nice story. You are on an interesting journey and I'm glad I found your channel. Unlike the youtubers 'I'm a wealthy prick and I just bought this rare hypercar for shitloads of money this week', your views are interesting and well put and it's fun to watch your videos. Good work, mate!
We've had KIAs for over eighteen years, on our fourth, to be frank I think they have always been underestimated . I remember buying our first, the manager had just returned from South Korea and said KIA plan to go right to the top. .Our local dealership is class A+ ...amazing standard, another plus. I've wanted a Stinger since it's release, KIA chauffeured my wife into town in a tomato ketchup red one, she said it was a stunner. Great video...
Wrong... Only until the last 5 to 6 years has KIA been underestimated.
Every KIA before that was hot trash. Even their past few year models have had various fit and finish issues... Aside from their dealerships trying to minimize any warranty claims (which makes their "industry leading" warranties pretty worthless)
Jay, I am just in the middle of your video and yes, that crazy Abarth food delivery driver still watching, and I love it. Personal, humble and honestly nice. Abarth is not a work horse anymore and at the moment I changed the working life path, but is nice to sit down and watch one of your videos. Thank you for bringing Stinger into the spotlight the way you did. The form, the story telling, what you chose is just what I needed. Carry on, Mr.
An inspired decision to combine two reviews into a single feature. If Kia did ambassadors, you would most certainly deserve the title! I'm settling in to explore your back catalog for Stinger footage from the US. Keep up the great work James.
I agree with your summary of a really nice car. Here in Australia three States use the Stinger as their Highway Patrol chase car some white with red decals and others dar🎉 blue with white decals. This plus the abundance of antennas makes the stinger look like something from the future and not something you want to see in your rearview mirror! Enjoyed your program very much.
They are being replaced by Kia EV6'S....Rechargeable Battery Car's
Brilliant video and a good recap on how the channel has grown.
I was actually half expecting you to say that you decided to buy one because of what the car represents to you and the channel.
I personally like the Stinger GT, it pretty much has got everything I would need in a car.
The rear end of that car reminds me of an Aston Martin vanquish V12
Congratulations James, and thank you. For me this is the best video you have ever done. You captured the audience (well, at least this one 😊) on a new level. Combining the stories on you+Kia and you+TH-cam was a brilliant idea, but how you delivered them was even better.
As a non Brit, brittish journalism can to me sometimes feel a bit distant (big generalization of course). Maybe it is a language thing, English is not my first language so I guess I don't get all the nuances but I often see focus on a lot of information, a lot of words. Very correct and "jolly" but a bit strict and you have to read between the lines to find the passion, the real feelings.
In this video, when sharing your amazing experience from the trip to USA, you were brave enough to let your guard down and shared openhearted your emotions from this important time in your life. By doing do, you invited us to to take part in that experience on a new level. It was like I was there with you and for me, that is the difference from a good story and a great one.
So thanks again and keep up the great work. 👍
I have a 2018 Stinger GT2. I got it new when I had a kid incoming and realized my WRX wouldn't really be that suitable for parent duties. It has really fulfilled it's potential in my life. Fits 2 kids now for daily transport duties and is a fun and pretty luxurious ride as far as entry level luxury goes. Recently I got into an accident and needed a rental that fit the kids seats. Medium to large sedan-wise, they only had a BMW 740i. So I had that for a week. And then going back to the Stinger, it didn't feel like a downgrade at all. I really missed the combination of luxury & sportiness the Stinger offers.
Dang, I loved watching your "life recap" and seeing your passion for a fine piece of engineering from the up 'n coming Kia! As a Yank I also thoroughly enjoy listening to your British accent and your excellent delivery! Keep up the great work - I am now subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing! It really does make a difference
I really wanted one, just before the pandemic hit and prices got stupid, I was saving up and even test drove a few...
Bloody hell man, this video hit hard, amazing work Mr JayEmm
Fantastic video James, your TH-cam story is brilliant. There are very few who express genuine gratitude for the kindnesses and privileges they get in life, but its clear that you mean it. But you have earned it through dedication and hard work. There are so many who could learn a lot from you. Keep going man, love your work!
Jayemm thank you for this and a brilliant send off for the Stinger.
I have had one on lease for the last two years and two to go and love it. Everything in your reviews over the years has been spot on.
I had a BMW 3 series 330 M sport 2017- and while it was a fabulous car, the KIA is better from equipment, fun, looks, it does turn heads and all great apart from maybe fuel economy lol.
Your videos of the Stinger helped me lease it as they were honest and you could see the enjoyment you had in the car. (Petrol Ped helped to but it's not his video lol).
It is a shame that KIA haven't refreshed the Stinger again but they are marching on into EV world.
I agree that the Stinger has brought the brand up a gear to an extent.
I had a Sportage when it was facelifted in 2013 and it was reliable and really equipped to the max, great for our young family.
Anyway keep up the good work and what are your thoughts on the Cupra Formentor especially the VZ3 (310) model.
Drive safe and thank you
GMaN
I really loved this story. Motivated by genuine love of a specific driving experience, told with sincerity, humility, and honesty. I found this video because I’m a Kia K5 GT-Line enthusiast, and I thoroughly enjoyed your story. I hope you become a massively successful mainstream presenter as a result of your sincere, compelling, down to earth storytelling ability. Kia deserves kudos for its current approach to providing extensive tech, great design, and pure driving fun for the average consumer while so many other OEMs are abandoning the customer in pursuit of maximum profit per unit sold (aka: “ upmarketing”). While this video is about the Stinger (now discontinued), the K5 GT (and GT-Line) provides so much of what the Stinger had for such an excellent price.
I fairly recently found your channel and thought of it as review channel. But it’s so much more than that. Your ability to tell a story is just so engaging. Thank you for providing such a refreshing approach. Perhaps I should start looking into a stinger before it’s too late.
I've been watching your channel fairly consistently ever since that video you did about buying that god-awful MG ZS many years ago. You've become my favorite channel to watch by some margin and I now feel as though we can all join you in thanking Kia. Not only for the Stinger, but by taking the leap and playing what turned out to be large part in getting this channel off the ground.
By the way, mate, you missed the chance to have a thumbnail of you sobbing uncontrollably. Would have got loads of views lol. Thanks for the videos, James.
Thanks for watching em!
You was definitely born for this ❤
Thank you James. Every now and again we need a reminder of why we subscribed in the first place apart from the featured cars. I am sure I am not alone in saying we stay subscribed to most channels due to the human side of all the adventures you take us along. Keep doing what you are doing while being as human as possible and not just an algorithm.
Lovely sentimental video. Was like watching a documentary not a car review.. Great to see the love for kia as a brand and company is still there and it hasn't just been used as a stepping stone to further your career on you tube then to be tossed aside when bigger brands and fancier cars have come knocking at your door
The story of the Stinger is one that has been replicated by many other saloons - now sadly withdrawn, mainly due to the current mania for SUVs - by other manufacturers: Honda Accord, Honda Legend, Mitsubishi Gallant & Diamante, Nissan Primera & Maxima, Toyota Avensis & Camry, Infiniti Q50, Hyundai i40, soon to be axed: Vauxhall Insignia, Ford Mondeo, Jagaur XE & XF, likely to be axed: Volvo S90, Mazda 6 etc. ....I'm sure I've forgotten others, but you get the picture.
A sad state of affairs
Dont forget about passat saloon. Thats also gone
The Sedan isn't dead, it's just not King anymore. We don't need a ford Taurus or Camry, Sedans should be the special sports car alternative to an SUV. I do wish we lived in a world where the Wagon filled this....and frankly it still should fill this niche but I'm not unhappy with the amount of sedan options available for guys like us, most of them are cool and fast and offer tons of advantages over an SUV. I just hope Kia doesn't ditch this form factor, they totally need a Model S competitor. If they bring back the Stinger as an electric car I'll buy it. I'll spend 70k on it actually. I don't trust anyone else to make an electric sports sedan other than Tesla and I'm betting Kia will give their performance Electric Sedan an actual Steering wheel. Take my money.
The Camry, Accord and Maxima are never going away. Maybe the Corolla will get axed, but no chance for the larder sedan.
Thank you, Jay for giving us the background story on your relationship with Kia and the road trip that was made possible for you. I'm a fan of your channel and I love the content of all your videos. I believe you have given us back with your invaluable knowledge. With that, I thank you.
James that was such a lovely, genuine heartfelt video. Your honesty & personality & eclectic car choices are the reasons you are one of my go-to TH-cam channels - don't change, I wish you every success in your future, you can kip in my spare room in Co Durham any time mate ❤
Awesome! Congratulations on all your hard work paying off. Great to hear Kia has been with you from the start
I'm half way through. I love your videos because you seem such a friendly, genuine and I think quite a humble guy. And there are cars, and I do love Jags. You've created one of the best car channels on TH-cam, or indeed anywhere. Kia chose well. Congratulations and well done.
Stinger was a great car offered by KIA here in Brazil as well. Too much, I would say, for the customer type you can find here. The company does not put any efforts to promote properly anyways in this lands. For me, it is an awesome car.
Your technical details and the happiness that you show in this and other videos are most valuable exchange your followers can have. Making us feel like we drove the car and all the rest of the sensations you transmit in your videos are priceless. You get what you give. So all the best and continue the great work.
I promess myself and share with my wife that one day I would like to drive an Aston Martin DBS for at least once. I'm waiting my dream to come true in the future.
Cheers and enjoy!
I remember that series of video's and also remember thinking how lucky you were to be over there doing that trip so it's lovely to hear how much it meant to you and the channel. I've wanted a stinger since then and have only seen two on the road here in middle earth (norfolk) since that series so it would be good to see more of one if you decide it's time for your driveway merry go round to feature one longer term:)
Amazing story for an honestly amazing car. I've wanted one since they were first announced and have come close to buying one a few times while settling for more affordable (albeit more responsible) buys instead. Once I heard that they were killing it off (back in December) it became do or die time. I ordered exactly what I had always wanted (gray/red leather/AWD). After 3 months of owning it, it has been one of my happiest decisions. I once again enjoy driving in every aspect. Did my first big drive in it yesterday and it was honestly the easiest 9+ hr drive I've ever experienced. Previously had an STI that was fun to drive but miserable for daily driving. Then a K5 that was comfortable for daily driving but boring to drive. The Stinger is truly perfect in both aspects. Fun and comfortable. 3 months into owning it and I still smile like a child on Christmas when I get into it.
So far I have no complaints with the car. Despite the exhaust opening up to be a bit louder in sport mode (not sure if this is a US only thing or not), I'd personally prefer it to be a little throatier but that can always be fixed with aftermarket.
I thought this video was fantastic James. A really interesting story on how you really got into TH-cam which will be an inspiration for younger TH-camrs who dream of following you. Also a well earned shout out to Kia for taking a risk with you. Many people get their breaks because of big boys prepared to stick their necks out. Kia makes fabulous cars and the Stinger is one of their best yet. They deserve to succeed worldwide.
I also agree with the points you raised here - well done!
Great episode! I thoroughly enjoy all of your content. This was a nice personal touch that give use a bit of back ground as to the channels origins. Thanks for sharing! 👍
Always liked the Stinger. They’re actually a police cruiser here in Australia !
James, life is all about the experiences we make and you should grab the chance to make as many as you can. This is probably the best thing I’ve seen on TH-cam and was already thinking about getting a stinger, and after your video it’s top of my list.
This was a thoroughly enjoyable story. I always appreciate it when a company takes a chance on you when they don't have to. I've had similar experiences with certain companies in the past and I'll never forget how well they treated me when I wasn't doing quite as well as I am now.
this video sums all the reasons i love your channel: you're a "petrolhead" at heart, but you're also a great storyteller.
the most underated vehicle of all time. I didnt get a chance to buy it at the right time. but they were going for 29K here in the states at one point... it got that bad
Videos like this one have made you one of my favorite motoring journalists. That said, I was also smitten by the Stinger when it first appeared in the US, and thought from Day One that the rear-end styling had Maserati written all over it. They are still a pretty common sight here, and while my budget put me in a Fiesta ST (no regrets… it’s brilliant), the Stinger still catches my eye and inspires a bit of envy. Thanks for this one!
Every time there was a debate about premium cars there was argumentum ad Stingerum “for that money I’d buy a V6 Stinger and go for a 3 month trip around the world”. Then nobody was actually doing that and now when I see a Stinger I want to take a photo of it. This car is a myth.
Spotted one the other day, pointed it out to petrol head uncle and he didn't have a clue about it. Looks subtle but good in the metal
I live in Seoul for now, and I saw 7 of them just yesterday lol. Considering getting one since the prices are much better for them over here. Even if they are very common, I still think they look great and stand out from other cars
@@aleksei8884 bruh it is like saying you see a lot of F150s in Texas, sure there’s more of them in Korea. In Europe they are super rare though.
I loved watching this and hearing the story in its entirety. Also, every time I see a Stinger in the flesh, I am reminded it is indeed a handsome car. First time I saw one was in a mall near Glasgow.
In a world where successful people are expected, no, required to lack humility (dirty word) and parade entitlement, it's refreshing to see somebody acknowledge good fortune and camaraderie as part of the ingredients of success. Great video, James.
You've earned yourself another subscriber. Absolutely beautifully done video. Beautiful, inspiring story. The way you talk about your experiences withthis truly great vehicle remind me of my own just now beginning. I purchase a previously owned 2019 GT AWD about a year ago now and every day I get in it I love my time in it more. Cheers. Looking forward to more great stories and cool cars on your channel to come.
What a beautiful story James. I’d feel exactly the same about the experience of Kia and the Stinger, given your history with them. Would you purchase one? I’ve always thought about getting one, and with used prices coming down I may end up taking the plunge.
My first ever car was a Kia Rio,I never lost confidence in the car or in the brand,never failed me and Kia grow up on me,7 years later upgrade to a Sportage GT LINE S wich is fully loaded and I love it.Great content,keep up the good work.
Have to admit the Stinger completely passed me by.
I'll stick to our Jag, mind 👍
Enjoyed the vid, James, and the emotions.
what Jag do you have?
Nice video. Thank you. Having owned over 30 cars I had never purchased the same vehicle twice. That included several German and Italian brands. Until the Kia Stinger GT (red) in 2017. Then when they decided to discontinue it, and not being ready to go electric, I’ve now purchased the last of these. Loved it in 2017, and still love it. At 6’2”, I can sit behind my drivers seat and fit two golf bags in the boot. Plus the sound system is comparable to cars twice the price, if you tick the options list. When these simply have “the lot” as standard. Plus, as it didn’t sell as well it still gets looks and positive comments. Love it!
Thank you for this beautiful story. It saddens me to see great affordable cars such as the Singer or the Giulia failing miserably because people prefer those useless SUV's. If I was a dad, conscious about the household money, the Stinger GT would definitely be my first choice. (And that's coming from a petrol head who daily drives a V8 Vantage and enjoys from time to time a top of the line BMW E39.)
Well said, SUVs are cars for those with no idea about driving enjoyment, boring drones that just copy the mouth breathing superhero movie consuming masses. Why would you CHOSE to buy an SUV if you don't have use or need of one? The funniest of all are 'sports SUVs' the most moronic jacked up crap of all SUVs. These versions are the most moronic of the lot, a massive waste of a powerful engine in a heavy, oversized poorly handling monstrosity (see the Lamb Urus, Porsche Cayenne, Aston DBX etc) Drives me mad, people have zero taste or sense!
@@davekennedy6315 Exactly. I have nothing against a real Range Rover or even a Touareg if you've got the need for it. But then why not go for a Land Cruiser that is actually a good vehicle? Ah yes... The Toyota badge doesn't appeal. I think even people with no idea about driving enjoyment can beneficiate of a good car. I have successfully convinced two people of my family/friends to at least test drive a car in addition to the SUV or Crossover. Both of them ended up buying the car. Octavia instead of Karoq and A5 instead of Q3. Non-car people aren't always that indiferrent to driving refinement.
@@Supergirafe80 I get you and agree, I should have said that I exclude farmers and others that actually NEED a large offroad capable vehicle. It is the fact that now EVERYONE wants one of the bloody things, even the fake FWD ones. Manufacturers are literally stopping making the normal height hatchbacks and saloons due to everyone's obsession with SUVs. Madness.
Perhaps you should drive an Alfa Romeo Stelvio. They certainly drive better than a lot of “cars”.
@@iamthebroker No thank you, I have driven a Giulia Veloce quite a few times and I don't see why such a good car should be made worst for absolutely no benefit. In a bubble, the Stelvio is probably OK. But compared to something actually gorgeous and very good to drive , it sure is quite useless vehicle. The Stelvio looks like a Giulia that got infected and swelled up. It's impossible not to see that if you look at both side by side. It's also impossible to unsee it once you've seen it. Despite those facts, the Stelvio sells more than a Giulia estate would ever have.
The Singer review was what brought me to your channel (all those years ago) as i considered purchasing one and I'm glad I stuck with your channel and to see the growth in your ability and content has been fantastic. Would still love a stinger if I ever had the opportunity...
I really wanted to buy a Stinger, but things never lined up.
The year it came out I went for a test drive and liked it, but I’ve learned my lesson from when I bought a BMW E46 to never buy the first year of production of any model, so I shelved the plan.
Second year I went again and noticed they removed the maintenance plan from the Stingers, and only the Stingers. I could buy a maintenance plan, but it wasn’t cheap. So, shelved the plan again.
The following year I went to have a look again and noticed an asterisk next to the Stinger’s price. That asterisk indicated that VAT is not included, so essentially the car’s price went up by 5% in a stealth way.
I think then the new refresh came out. Went to look again and then the salesman told me that the front brakes were not covered by the warranty, which was known to warp and was very expensive to replace.
So, when all this stuff starts to be added together, suddenly the price of a BMW 440i GranCoupe is not that far away. Same story Stateside that it was let down by KIA dealers.
Another great video and one of aspects that make your videos great is that you bring you personal experiences and thoughts with it making it feel more genuine than just a straight up video review. Love it
You're wholesome guy. I'm glad I've found your channel. Your reviews are witty, not biased and on point.
Thank you, never change
Jay! The key to success is your authenticy. Well done, fellow
2022 Ascot Green GT1 AWD owner here... what' an absolute diamond in the rough car. I have never owned something that gets so many looks and questions. The classic "That's a Kia?!" question never gets old.
Love your professional and passionate work, keep it up James thank you 😊
The Stinger and the G70 are very special automobiles. They remind me of a Grand National and the impact it had on the market for Buick. The 3.3 turbo is really an amazing power plant. I enjoyed your account of the relationship with Kia. Many thanks.
Lovely video. Oddly enough, for a mostly, actually all talking video, I didn’t once become bored. Mostly because of your humility and sincerity. Thank you.
I purchased a 2023 GT2 last year. That car has treated me so well, I am so in love with it. It has the perfect balance of luxury, speed, handling, and mpg for me.