Deep red states are dying. People are leaving, don't even want to go there for vacation. Soon those states will be charging taxes because the money they charge tourists for hotel and car rental taxes won't be there.
Insurance agent here: another CON you should have mentioned is the expensive auto insurance. Michigan is the most expensive in the country because we have Unlimited PIP Medical Coverage. And even if you buy down to $250K it’s still higher than almost every other state. Most states it’s between $5,000 and $25,000 in medical coverage if you get in an accident. But you don’t get the other benefits like OT/PT or lawn/snow service if you can’t do it cuz you were hurt in an accident.
That's because we live by Canada and we have a hybrid insurance system that half mimics the US and half mimics Canada. It's expensive but it certainly keeps people covered.
With all of the insurance loopholes that cheat people out of their money, it should be cheap, but when you repeal helmet laws for the dumbest of the population, lawyers know exactly what to do with that.
I have lived in 7 states and am so glad that I was finally able to move back. Michigan has so much natural beauty and recreation activities. The summers aren’t too hot and the winters aren’t too cold. In Metro Detroit, there’s never a lot of snow and the land is flat enough so driving on it is easier. I say this as someone who lived in Wisconsin for over 10 years. The state universities are excellent! Public transportation is scandalous for its absence. This is a major issue!
I'm 70 years old, live in Trenton and have lived in multiple cities in the downriver area my entire life. It took my adult life to appreciate Michigan. Love the 4 seasons along with the other pros you mentioned 😊
Im not completely sure but i seen an old video of Muhammad Ali training for the 2nd Leon Spinks fight and it showed Ali in sweats jogging in a place called Deer Park Michigan and i wondered then why would Alis home be in funky Michigan, why not Arizona, or Texas,
Concerning road construction, it IS all the time. It's also everywhere, in all directions. The unofficial state flower is the reflective orange barrel.
after 70 years in michigan i would say that this last winter was the warmest with hardly any snow that i have seen. michigan is decent if you could fly south with the birds in at least december, january, february. if you live in the U.P. forget what i just said. so the worst part is dreary, cold, wet, snow, cloudy months of winter. come back april 1st to november and it is ok.
I remember golfing in December about 15-20 years ago. I wouldn't say it was the warmest at all, but consistently warmer year after year. Paul, considering selling your snowblower is crazy talk, unless of course you want to contract it out for now on.
78 years old myself...I get so sick of the negative slams we get ,when every State has problems. So hearing his cons is a bravo 👏🏻. My negative that Michigan is the 50 shades of GREY. See you during our Sunshine season.😅😅😅😅😅
Living in Chicago, where we often get the storms the day before Michigan, I find it funny when schools are closed in Michigan long before the weather even arrives. Chicago Public Schools seem to wait until there's at least a foot of snow WITH sub zero temps before they will close, while schools in Michigan won't take any chances and close even if it turns out to be a false alarm. I own a condo here and always intended to move back to Michigan one day to buy a house because the houses in Chicago cost much more. But Michigan's homes have really jumped up in price in recent years so I'm unsure of my plans now.
I moved to arkansas as kid. From up We go to school in 3ft snow😅. 1st day of school in arkansas. Maybe 0.010 of inch snow fell ! Snow day ! We had no idea what snow day was 😅
The biggest mistake about Michigan is underestimating the seasons. Come to Michigan May thru September and you'll fall in love. The other months can be dark, cold, depressing. And yea the Great Lakes are beautiful but understand you will be able to swim in them 1-2 months per yr tops
I agree! I lived 3 miles south of Michigan in Indiana. Once it snows you didn't see the sun till April or May? I hated it! Every one was crabby from November to May? It is beautiful with all the greenery!!! However, I love Colorado! Although it's expensive!
Michigan and if I could afford it, Ieave to get away from all the corruption and high crime is spreading out more and more. Never live in a big city here or close. Moved from nice areas gone ghetto fast.
Hi Paul, just curious but did they even fix the high car insurance in Michigan? I moved away 13 years ago and from what I remember car insurance was the highest in the united states.
Hey Paul! Thank you for the amazing video! My wife and I live outside of Orlando, FL and the cost of living is becoming insane and we are considering relocating. My wife and I both love how beautiful Michigan is and are heavily considering it. With that said, we think the west side of Michigan is going to be our best bet, but we aren't 100% set on this idea. Considering our wishlist, how realistic is moving up there? (see below) - Price: Under $350k - 3/2 or larger / at least 1200 sq feet - Good/reliable internet for WFH - No HOA - Not inside a major city, but ideally less than 40 mins from one (for dr visits and so on) - Close(ish) to water. Coming from FL, fishing and boating is a big part of our life, so we are looking for an area with good fishing and boating opportunities. - Is safe with low crime rates (next to price, this is our number one priority) - A fence ;) lol (jk, but at least an area that allows one, we have dogs) With all of this said, where should we look and is the price of $350k or under reasonable for our desires? Ty
I lived in the thumb area and you don't want a basement, everyone I know had flooring, cracks in the wall and foundation problems. The water table is shallow, drill a well.
Can’t even tell you how many times I’ve driven to work in a snowstorm and a foot of snow where I can’t even see where the road ends and the shoulder starts or where the lane lines are
I can live anywhere I want, and I love to live in Michigan. You forgot to mention our wonderful weather except for in the winter. Some people like snow, and those of us who don't like it appreciate our spring weather and flowers more. There's no public transportation outside of cities anywhere, not just Michigan. Get over it, it's nice here. We use natural foliage for fencing. And I've lived in previous suburbs that have fencing. I used to live in Calif and missed the seasons. Sounds like you only cater to the rich.
I was born and raised in north Florida (Gainesville) and have lived as far north as Hillman, MI, west of Alpena. Don't shake your head at those of us who grew up w/o basements! In Florida, if you dig a basement chances are good you'll be in the water table. For that matter, our 5 years in Hillman, the sump pump died twice, flooding the basement and causing black mold on the dry wall a previous resident had put in. And fences aren't always great. We now live in western NC and last fall I investigated a crack I heard in the back yard when I was out front. The crack was the black bear that had climbed over the back fence, breaking part of the fence in the process. sigh. At least the wild turkeys don't bother the fence.
A little off topic, but i really want to move to Michigan. Specifically Farmington Hills. Would you say it's one of the best areas? If not, what are some better places. And what do you prefer?
I actually thought of you today. There is this massive mansion being built on Pontiac Trail, down the street from the owner of Home Medics. It’s massive! It’s a U shaped, limestone house.
live in North County San Diego and I look at lake homes in Michigan all the time. Just need to get to a place where I can leave for 3-4 months every year.
Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, Troy. Lots of great school systems. Best city is Birmingham if you can afford it. It’s like a European City and you can walk to everything
Been here since 1973!!! A lot has changed in the last 10 years alone especially. Traffic has grown hugely! This is strange since supposedly our population hasn’t really grown much. I’d like that explained. Home prices not the relative bargain they were for the last 30 years. And they’ve spread out much further into the countryside. Again I don’t understand all the new homes I see if the population is stagnate. Property taxes are very stiff for new buyers, I believe this is under stated nor understood. I think the COL is decent, although it depends where you are. Actually up north living is fairly expensive. Michigan is a great place overall. The cloudy dank winters do get a bit oppressive after a couple months,but June through oct can’t be beat. 😊
Cold and cloudy most of the time. There's a reason for all that water. Lots of rain and snow, and very little evaporation. Summer is GREAT...for a few short months. Winter SUCKS! You've never seen so many fat people like in Michigan. In Grand Rapids they have a saying..."If you're not Dutch, you're not much." I always loved the forests, but after reaching retirement I moved to Ecuador.
All of you must love the car insurance ridiculous prices, the gas prices and of course the way grocery prices are three times what they were. How will they ever go down when no one acknowledges them
A lot of construction lol. Ive seen construction barrels on atv trails in the northern LP. Not to mention how they're working on every freeway in metro Detroit at the same time rn.
Help me, Paul! You're my only hope! I'm moving my 76yo mother and self, both considered retired, back home to Michigan after 30+ years. We want to live in an old (and cheap, needs work kind of place) house or cabin in the woods...but the reports about certain illegal activities in the trees are kind of scaring us out of that. We don't know which area to move into -- we just know we want to live far enough away from the family so that they have to actually plan ahead to visit.😆 Which is the greater Detroit area. In addition, Mom doesn't want to live anywhere in SW Michigan (?given me no logical explanation?) and I'm afraid to move anywhere too politically...um...divided. I'm thinking purple and neutral and calm. We're coming from Florida.🙄 Since neither of us have been home for decades we're having trouble separating fact from rumor. We know we probably can't go too rural for reasons mentioned and smaller cities that haven't yet been weaponized are perfectly fine. I'm making us sound crazier than we actually are. I am aware of that.😅 TL;DR Upper or lower doesn't matter; woodsy, cheap and safe are the priorities. Any chance there's a region with our name on it?
You don’t know shit I’ve lived in the state most of my life and it’s a hell of a lot better than any other ones out there which I’ve lived in a lot of of them.
I left Michigan 1995 to louisiana then to Washington State 2003 and came back to Michigan 2024 April to August.....I am moving to Florida thank God ....I moved from Michigan 1995 for a reason and definitely don't miss Seattle Washington ( Sickattle) 😂
Bro, love your vids. I do, but traffic out here is atrocious. I lived in Indiana, Fort Wayne area, and Ohio, greater Cleveland, and it's worse than both of those areas. I live on the far end of Novi, and it took me 45 plus minutes to get to the Dunkin that's also in Novi, due to construction and it being "rush hour", which is a great deal of the day. I'm sure it's less compared to most major metropolitan areas like, New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles, but it is way worse compared to nearby metro areas. Metro Detroit collectively is the second biggest metro area in the mid-west, and it shows in the traffic and extremely long commutes.
😅 yeah - I definitely mean compared to places like NY and LA - all of the people I help move here from those areas rave about how great the drive times are.
Being a retired outside Sales Manager for 35 years, I could drive in my going for the Sales 100 miles on any given day everyday in God awful weather and I find timing and weather is key in everything avoiding back ups and that one timid driver that keeps tapping that damn break and chain reaction. 😅😅😅
I moved out of Michigan after having lived there my whole life in many different areas, ., the roads are horrendous, and the road construction has literally been constant all over for the past 25 years, the winters are WAY too long and cold. you rarely see the sun, which may explain why the people are kinda grumpy and no fun in general,, and one of the biggest things.. the drivers.. some of the rudest and arrogant drivers in the world are right there.. if you move there be prepared to be constantly tailgated no matter what speed you are going, and even if its solid ice outside. Oh and the salting of the roads.. they salt constantly in the winter even when it doesn't need it so plan on your car getting eaten by rust within three years.
my lake is gone wixom lake. Beaverton area baycity. housing is cheap because the lake is a river small river people are abandoning these once lake homes, look like something from the apocalypse, 40 miles of lakes gone
To those who want to move here, especially the metro Detroit area, please be forewarned about the poor job market here. 60% of jobs in Wayne county do NOT pay a middle class salary. Michigan has one of the worst job markets in the nation. Companies are afraid to come here because of the rapid population decline. Most companies that do come here, are usually customer service based, or manufacturing. However, I did hear that engineers, and some trades can thrive here. But, if you can, definitely look into other states, as they have way better opportunities than Michigan.
Engineering and tech are both huge here - most of my clients are making much more than middle class salary and have moved here from states like California and Texas.
@@PaulWolfert Right, but everyone is not in tech, or engineering. And tech is not even all that great in the metro Detroit area. Massive layoffs, and low balling wages. And what area are your clients in anyways? I said Metro Detroit area is struggling with jobs, and your clients don’t represent the mass of job seekers here too. I work in Supply Chain/Logistics, a sector of tech and I’m severely underpaid. Also, the info is out there, Michigan does NOT have a healthy job market, no matter how hard you try to sugar coat it.
@@PaulWolfert I’m mean compared to New York California sure but no car insurance is stupidly high license plates are high state income tax property taxes hell you even have a soda can tax like wtf I grew up in Oakland county no thanks I will never live in Michigan again Tennessee is way better
🤷♂️ a lot of my clients are from California - they tend to gravitate towards cities like Birmingham and Bloomfield where the homes are a lot for a little.
Michigan has paid dearly with NAFTA and CHINA since early 2000s. So many people displaced from good paying factory jobs that were part of communities for decades. Some a century. Big difference from the 1990s when i grew up.
Saginaw, Flint, all the big cities avoid like the plague. Scary to drive through even. Out of cities now and going into one I feel claustrophobic and head on a swivel.
Construction, Car destroying salt.. Liberals.. Detroit/Flint/Saginaw are ghetto.. Snow is one thing but 7 months of cold and grey winter is the worst.. Gas is expensive, flat and boring terrain, roads suck.... Tons of taxes and expensive car insurance.. I can't wait to move out down south..
My parents fled there in 67. I fled a burbs near there 8 years just in time. Very dangerous in no time. After crime starting and a shooting behind the house, I called my realtor cousin to sell the place.
@@toddd7444 Well there was a stalker too. Crazy af. Delusional, bi polar and narcissistic. Had guns and if you've been institutionalized not supposed to have them or can't buy one at a shop. Background check fail right there. Plus been wanting a more country quiet type setting anyway. It's like a wildlife sanctuary out there.😁Heard banging around. Checked and a raccoon wreaking havoc🤦♀️. Still a better neighbor than many.😆
Let's think a minute. The west, fire, earthquake, landslides, and droughts. East coast, those pesky Hurricanes, that can rearrange your life. The mid west, oh yeah. Those lovely tornadoes. God's way of getting a good laugh. So you thought you could do that? Ha ha! Droughts that challenge your Ingenuity.
The headlines on your videos make Detroit and all of Michigan look horrible. If I was considering moving there I would never even watch the vid after reading the headline..Why do you do that?? It seems like you are selling things in MI but you tell people how horrible it is before they can view the "information" - You're advertising it to be a very bad bad place to go or live...
Thanks for the feedback! Hope you watched a few 🙂 Unfortunately, that's the way TH-cam works. Negative thumbnails outperform positive ones BUT, the information isn't negative. I've made a lot of positive thumbnails and the videos completely tank until I change them.
I have found People are much nicer since I moved South. Michigan is not cheap whatsoever. In Florida now and it's a toss up financially. I can make more money in Michigan but then there are State taxes, higher housing and property taxes. People think Florida is expensive but my Florida house would double in price if I put it in Oakland county. Gas and Insurance are always high too.
Ive lived there my whole life and couldn't agree more.. thats one main reason we left..I seriously think they think being rude is attractive... U mmmm no.. try again. lol
Lived here all my life. Hpusing is still affordable unlike many states. We don't have hurricanes, crocks, or pythons. Beautiful 4 seasons.
Exactly! 😀
Michigan should eliminate the state income tax like Florida and Tennessee did in 2021.
Deep red states are dying. People are leaving, don't even want to go there for vacation. Soon those states will be charging taxes because the money they charge tourists for hotel and car rental taxes won't be there.
Insurance agent here: another CON you should have mentioned is the expensive auto insurance. Michigan is the most expensive in the country because we have Unlimited PIP Medical Coverage. And even if you buy down to $250K it’s still higher than almost every other state. Most states it’s between $5,000 and $25,000 in medical coverage if you get in an accident. But you don’t get the other benefits like OT/PT or lawn/snow service if you can’t do it cuz you were hurt in an accident.
I talk about that in a few other videos. Crazy how much we pay for auto insurance and most families have more than one car.
That's because we live by Canada and we have a hybrid insurance system that half mimics the US and half mimics Canada. It's expensive but it certainly keeps people covered.
With all of the insurance loopholes that cheat people out of their money, it should be cheap, but when you repeal helmet laws for the dumbest of the population, lawyers know exactly what to do with that.
I have lived in 7 states and am so glad that I was finally able to move back. Michigan has so much natural beauty and recreation activities. The summers aren’t too hot and the winters aren’t too cold. In Metro Detroit, there’s never a lot of snow and the land is flat enough so driving on it is easier. I say this as someone who lived in Wisconsin for over 10 years.
The state universities are excellent!
Public transportation is scandalous for its absence. This is a major issue!
Michigan is not the most expensive auto insurance. New U hi our, Nevada, Maryland and Pennsylvania’s rates are higher. New York has the highest rate.
Grew up in SW Michigan. 1998 I moved to Arizona. I'm sick of the heat. I'd move back to Michigan in a heartbeat now.
We live in AZ now...looking for a house in michigan...can't wait to leave here
me too
@@ChatNoir443omg same here, miss Michigan
I'm 70 years old, live in Trenton and have lived in multiple cities in the downriver area my entire life. It took my adult life to appreciate Michigan. Love the 4 seasons along with the other pros you mentioned 😊
No sharks, no hurricanes, limited tornados and still have the water life!!!
True!!!
Ah, no sharks can be debated actually. Just not scientifically proven.
Im not completely sure but i seen an old video of Muhammad Ali training for the 2nd Leon Spinks fight and it showed Ali in sweats jogging in a place called Deer Park Michigan and i wondered then why would Alis home be in funky Michigan, why not Arizona, or Texas,
If you consider ICE to be water.
No thanks.
I met Ali in Wyoming, Michigan, when he was visiting Buster Mathis, a mutual friend of ours.
Michigan isn't all bad, but the cold was too much for me.
Concerning road construction, it IS all the time. It's also everywhere, in all directions. The unofficial state flower is the reflective orange barrel.
😂 that's kinda true. 🚧
I can now drive all the way to Traverse City on all new road. Not much construction around me this year. I think they are all done for awhile!
Same in Indiana lol.
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@@travissmith9488 hope so!
I’m from MI but live in TX. I HATE that we lost our basement when moving to TX 😩 The people in TX are clueless about how awesome basements are.
Agreed! a lot of people are afraid to go down into them.
@@PaulWolferthello from Lansing Michigan
@@PaulWolfertI moved to the Lansing area two years ago beautiful city
What exactly is “beautiful” about Lansing?
I live in Birmingham and my daughter lives in Ann Arbor. 2 of the best places to live in the entire country.
And yet it's a far far better place to live and retire than the vast majority of other states.
after 70 years in michigan i would say that this last winter was the warmest with hardly any snow that i have seen. michigan is decent if you could fly south with the birds in at least december, january, february. if you live in the U.P. forget what i just said. so the worst part is dreary, cold, wet, snow, cloudy months of winter. come back april 1st to november and it is ok.
Agreed! I even considered selling my snowblower but I'm sure the second I do, we'll get more snow than ever before!
I remember golfing in December about 15-20 years ago. I wouldn't say it was the warmest at all, but consistently warmer year after year.
Paul, considering selling your snowblower is crazy talk, unless of course you want to contract it out for now on.
@@longmuskox4194 i just read a report that it was the 2nd warmest winter for michigan since records were kept.
I'm convinced if you can get away for some time between January and April, that Michigan is one of the very best places to live.
78 years old myself...I get so sick of the negative slams we get ,when every State has problems.
So hearing his cons is a bravo 👏🏻. My negative that Michigan is the 50 shades of GREY. See you during our Sunshine season.😅😅😅😅😅
Yes 🙌 to basement, nature and many other things, compared to scorching 🥵 hot and humid weather in Texas, crazy traffic, Michigan is wonderful 🥰🙏
I'm planning to retire there from California
Want a fence in Michigan put an in ground pool in and a fence is required.
One of the best loopholes! 🏊♂️
Living in Chicago, where we often get the storms the day before Michigan, I find it funny when schools are closed in Michigan long before the weather even arrives. Chicago Public Schools seem to wait until there's at least a foot of snow WITH sub zero temps before they will close, while schools in Michigan won't take any chances and close even if it turns out to be a false alarm. I own a condo here and always intended to move back to Michigan one day to buy a house because the houses in Chicago cost much more. But Michigan's homes have really jumped up in price in recent years so I'm unsure of my plans now.
You're right. Michigan prices have jumped a TON! If you decide to make the move, reach out!
Michigan gets pounded with lake effect snow routinely. Yes, housing prices have gone up commensurate with most other states.
I'm not leaving, born and raised. 😂😊
lining in Utah we get our storms 2 days earlier
I moved to arkansas as kid. From up
We go to school in 3ft snow😅.
1st day of school in arkansas. Maybe 0.010 of inch snow fell ! Snow day ! We had no idea what snow day was 😅
hahahaha that's wild!
I hate summer and love snow. The first con is a pro for me.
The biggest mistake about Michigan is underestimating the seasons. Come to Michigan May thru September and you'll fall in love. The other months can be dark, cold, depressing. And yea the Great Lakes are beautiful but understand you will be able to swim in them 1-2 months per yr tops
Yep. The seasons have their pros and cons. It's the number one draw...and the number one repellent.
I agree! I lived 3 miles south of Michigan in Indiana. Once it snows you didn't see the sun till April or May? I hated it! Every one was crabby from November to May? It is beautiful with all the greenery!!! However, I love Colorado! Although it's expensive!
@@franciegwin From November to May? LOL Try November to November.. they are all crabby, all the time.. one reason we left..
Michigan and if I could afford it, Ieave to get away from all the corruption and high crime is spreading out more and more. Never live in a big city here or close. Moved from nice areas gone ghetto fast.
Hi Paul, just curious but did they even fix the high car insurance in Michigan? I moved away 13 years ago and from what I remember car insurance was the highest in the united states.
It's still pretty high. Tons of uninsured motorists doesn't help the situation 😩
Hey Paul! Thank you for the amazing video! My wife and I live outside of Orlando, FL and the cost of living is becoming insane and we are considering relocating. My wife and I both love how beautiful Michigan is and are heavily considering it. With that said, we think the west side of Michigan is going to be our best bet, but we aren't 100% set on this idea. Considering our wishlist, how realistic is moving up there? (see below)
- Price: Under $350k - 3/2 or larger / at least 1200 sq feet
- Good/reliable internet for WFH
- No HOA
- Not inside a major city, but ideally less than 40 mins from one (for dr visits and so on)
- Close(ish) to water. Coming from FL, fishing and boating is a big part of our life, so we are looking for an area with good fishing and boating opportunities.
- Is safe with low crime rates (next to price, this is our number one priority)
- A fence ;) lol (jk, but at least an area that allows one, we have dogs)
With all of this said, where should we look and is the price of $350k or under reasonable for our desires? Ty
I lived in the thumb area and you don't want a basement, everyone I know had flooring, cracks in the wall and foundation problems. The water table is shallow, drill a well.
Its not the ocean, exactly. Thank god. No sharks, no jelly fish, no crappy tides, no salt.
True! Salt & shark free!
Can’t even tell you how many times I’ve driven to work in a snowstorm and a foot of snow where I can’t even see where the road ends and the shoulder starts or where the lane lines are
Enjoy your videos, thanks. Was wondering about the cost of construction for middle level construction. Thanks Paul
Really depends on what you're looking for - send a note my way and we can chat: www.movingmi.com
I can live anywhere I want, and I love to live in Michigan. You forgot to mention our wonderful weather except for in the winter. Some people like snow, and those of us who don't like it appreciate our spring weather and flowers more. There's no public transportation outside of cities anywhere, not just Michigan. Get over it, it's nice here. We use natural foliage for fencing. And I've lived in previous suburbs that have fencing. I used to live in Calif and missed the seasons. Sounds like you only cater to the rich.
I talk about that stuff in my other videos 😀 - I love it here too
I love the Upper Peninsula. Though winter does last forever.
Up there it definitely does!
I still have a problem with lake front properties emptying sewage into the lakes but i'd move back in a heart beat
It does not actually suck, then, it's more like the in between of Cali and the east coast
How do you get in touch with you? I'm from mi and I'm thinking if moving to detroit
Movingmi.com / paul@movingmi.com
San Diego native who already has a house in Custer Michigan, just haven't moved there yet.
Nice! What made you pick Michigan?
I live in Oklahoma and Im thinking about moving to Michigan I’m originally from Colorado and I can honestly say I miss the show
If you decide to move here, let me know! www.movingmi.com/info/TH-cam 😀
Fences - we don't need no stinkin' fences! Snow is not a "con" - learn to live with it and enjoy it.
Im a Northern Californian relocating to Saginaw area 🤞
Hope you like it! 😀
I was born and raised in north Florida (Gainesville) and have lived as far north as Hillman, MI, west of Alpena. Don't shake your head at those of us who grew up w/o basements! In Florida, if you dig a basement chances are good you'll be in the water table. For that matter, our 5 years in Hillman, the sump pump died twice, flooding the basement and causing black mold on the dry wall a previous resident had put in.
And fences aren't always great. We now live in western NC and last fall I investigated a crack I heard in the back yard when I was out front. The crack was the black bear that had climbed over the back fence, breaking part of the fence in the process. sigh. At least the wild turkeys don't bother the fence.
Yes yes yes, gotta have a basement!
A little off topic, but i really want to move to Michigan. Specifically Farmington Hills. Would you say it's one of the best areas? If not, what are some better places. And what do you prefer?
That's totally on topic! I help a TON of people buy and sell in Farmington and Farmington Hills. Send a message my way Paul@movingmi.com
I actually thought of you today. There is this massive mansion being built on Pontiac Trail, down the street from the owner of Home Medics. It’s massive! It’s a U shaped, limestone house.
I'd love to check out both of those places!
Hey , I loved your video. Planing to moving there sometime next year. Wondering which middle school is best there on the northern side of Detroit .
Detroit proper or Metro Detroit? Reach out and we'll be able to help! paul@movingmi.com
motorboating with the pontoon there's a song about that
live in North County San Diego and I look at lake homes in Michigan all the time. Just need to get to a place where I can leave for 3-4 months every year.
My family and I are thinking of moving to Michigan from AZ. Where are the best middle/high schools?
You'll love it here! I have a bunch of videos about the best schools. Reach out and I'll help movingmi.com
Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, Troy. Lots of great school systems. Best city is Birmingham if you can afford it. It’s like a European City and you can walk to everything
Been here since 1973!!! A lot has changed in the last 10 years alone especially. Traffic has grown hugely! This is strange since supposedly our population hasn’t really grown much. I’d like that explained. Home prices not the relative bargain they were for the last 30 years. And they’ve spread out much further into the countryside. Again I don’t understand all the new homes I see if the population is stagnate. Property taxes are very stiff for new buyers, I believe this is under stated nor understood. I think the COL is decent, although it depends where you are. Actually up north living is fairly expensive. Michigan is a great place overall. The cloudy dank winters do get a bit oppressive after a couple months,but June through oct can’t be beat. 😊
I love it here
Because of Whitmer, I will not be moving to MI, but I may visit.
Thank goodness she’s keeping the nutballs out.
lol 😂
FGW
Worst governor in Michigan history
Nickname "Hiltlers Sister "
Good one less red vote. Go to Texas they'll welcome you.
Couldn't agree more...the progressive politicians in Michigan devalue EVERYTHING Michigan has to offer...EVERYTHING!!
Leaving arizona for Michigan
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Cold and cloudy most of the time.
There's a reason for all that water.
Lots of rain and snow, and very little evaporation.
Summer is GREAT...for a few short months.
Winter SUCKS!
You've never seen so many fat people like in Michigan.
In Grand Rapids they have a saying..."If you're not Dutch, you're not much."
I always loved the forests, but after reaching retirement I moved to Ecuador.
You're right about everyone being overweight..its unbelievable.. and crabby too....
All of you must love the car insurance ridiculous prices, the gas prices and of course the way grocery prices are three times what they were. How will they ever go down when no one acknowledges them
Um, this is America... prices will never go down. They never do.
Doesn't matter who's in the White House either.
@@MonaLisaVito-c8rYou forgot low job prospects too
A lot of construction lol. Ive seen construction barrels on atv trails in the northern LP. Not to mention how they're working on every freeway in metro Detroit at the same time rn.
Help me, Paul! You're my only hope!
I'm moving my 76yo mother and self, both considered retired, back home to Michigan after 30+ years. We want to live in an old (and cheap, needs work kind of place) house or cabin in the woods...but the reports about certain illegal activities in the trees are kind of scaring us out of that. We don't know which area to move into -- we just know we want to live far enough away from the family so that they have to actually plan ahead to visit.😆 Which is the greater Detroit area.
In addition, Mom doesn't want to live anywhere in SW Michigan (?given me no logical explanation?) and I'm afraid to move anywhere too politically...um...divided. I'm thinking purple and neutral and calm. We're coming from Florida.🙄 Since neither of us have been home for decades we're having trouble separating fact from rumor. We know we probably can't go too rural for reasons mentioned and smaller cities that haven't yet been weaponized are perfectly fine.
I'm making us sound crazier than we actually are. I am aware of that.😅
TL;DR Upper or lower doesn't matter; woodsy, cheap and safe are the priorities. Any chance there's a region with our name on it?
What illegal activities?
@@Mr.Smith101 Rhymes with Beth. The only thing that really scares me about the woods.
@@Mr.Smith101 Hmmm...my comment disappeared. Let's try it this way: It rhymes with Beth. That's the only thing that truly scares me about the woods.
Port Huron, thumb area. 60 minutes from Detroit on the freeway. End of I-94. On Lake Huron.
@@breecampbell3829 Thank you so much! That's really helpful. Mom's always loved the thumb.
in mich i'd snow sky 2x per week at mt holly in utah i haven been once
You don’t know shit I’ve lived in the state most of my life and it’s a hell of a lot better than any other ones out there which I’ve lived in a lot of of them.
Did you actually watch the video? 😂 - I've lived here all my life.
oh and how they calculate taxed on lake front homes but i'd move back in a heart beat
I left Michigan 1995 to louisiana then to Washington State 2003 and came back to Michigan 2024 April to August.....I am moving to Florida thank God ....I moved from Michigan 1995 for a reason and definitely don't miss Seattle Washington ( Sickattle) 😂
Go to Arizona , much lower taxes and much better roads.
That's what I did. Way too hot here,
michigan dont have a low cost of living
Bro, love your vids. I do, but traffic out here is atrocious. I lived in Indiana, Fort Wayne area, and Ohio, greater Cleveland, and it's worse than both of those areas. I live on the far end of Novi, and it took me 45 plus minutes to get to the Dunkin that's also in Novi, due to construction and it being "rush hour", which is a great deal of the day. I'm sure it's less compared to most major metropolitan areas like, New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles, but it is way worse compared to nearby metro areas. Metro Detroit collectively is the second biggest metro area in the mid-west, and it shows in the traffic and extremely long commutes.
😅 yeah - I definitely mean compared to places like NY and LA - all of the people I help move here from those areas rave about how great the drive times are.
That’s because you are living on that side of town where everyone’s mom told them they were special. This attitude is especially true when driving.
I live in Clarkston and there's pretty much zero traffic unless there's a big concert.
Being a retired outside Sales Manager for 35 years, I could drive in my going for the Sales 100 miles on any given day everyday in God awful weather and
I find timing and weather is key in everything avoiding back ups and that one timid driver that keeps tapping that damn break and chain reaction. 😅😅😅
wht lies Michihan is not the 14th cheapest state in the us
If you don’t like Michigan …..MOVE!!! I am so sick of people bashing Michigan!
😂 Did you actually watch the video? I love Michigan! 😀
Watching from Bakersfield ca. it’s hell here. Planning to come to mi
Moving from Florida to Mount Clemens
Excited
I moved out of Michigan after having lived there my whole life in many different areas, ., the roads are horrendous, and the road construction has literally been constant all over for the past 25 years, the winters are WAY too long and cold. you rarely see the sun, which may explain why the people are kinda grumpy and no fun in general,, and one of the biggest things.. the drivers.. some of the rudest and arrogant drivers in the world are right there.. if you move there be prepared to be constantly tailgated no matter what speed you are going, and even if its solid ice outside. Oh and the salting of the roads.. they salt constantly in the winter even when it doesn't need it so plan on your car getting eaten by rust within three years.
Holy panel gaps Paul. Maybe it's time to service the Porsche?
😂😂 I had the hood popped. No gaps.
@@PaulWolfert Many of us now refer to that as the frunk. I know I do for my Tesla. But, you can call it what you want.
my lake is gone wixom lake. Beaverton area baycity. housing is cheap because the lake is a river small river people are abandoning these once lake homes, look like something from the apocalypse, 40 miles of lakes gone
I thought those lakes were eventually coming back?
Detroit it's entire history has had the worst transit system of any metro city of its size.
I agree with u I was born here. But I agree with u.
Governor & government, courts are courpation ! Very bad
To those who want to move here, especially the metro Detroit area, please be forewarned about the poor job market here. 60% of jobs in Wayne county do NOT pay a middle class salary. Michigan has one of the worst job markets in the nation. Companies are afraid to come here because of the rapid population decline. Most companies that do come here, are usually customer service based, or manufacturing. However, I did hear that engineers, and some trades can thrive here. But, if you can, definitely look into other states, as they have way better opportunities than Michigan.
Engineering and tech are both huge here - most of my clients are making much more than middle class salary and have moved here from states like California and Texas.
@@PaulWolfert Right, but everyone is not in tech, or engineering. And tech is not even all that great in the metro Detroit area. Massive layoffs, and low balling wages. And what area are your clients in anyways? I said Metro Detroit area is struggling with jobs, and your clients don’t represent the mass of job seekers here too. I work in Supply Chain/Logistics, a sector of tech and I’m severely underpaid. Also, the info is out there, Michigan does NOT have a healthy job market, no matter how hard you try to sugar coat it.
An hour drive is an hour drive no matter how far you drive.....you mispoke
The taxes are killer
Low cost of living my ass
Depends on where you're living in Michigan and what states you're comparing it to 🤷♂️
@@PaulWolfert I’m mean compared to New York California sure but no car insurance is stupidly high license plates are high state income tax property taxes hell you even have a soda can tax like wtf I grew up in Oakland county no thanks I will never live in Michigan again Tennessee is way better
I moved from Metro Detroit to Washington DC and it’s a lot better quality of life. Metro Detroit has no jobs no transit and bad healthcare.
Currently in nyct
"$500,000-$1,000,000 doesn't go as far as you think in Michigan" laughs in Californian
🤷♂️ a lot of my clients are from California - they tend to gravitate towards cities like Birmingham and Bloomfield where the homes are a lot for a little.
Michigan has paid dearly with NAFTA and CHINA since early 2000s. So many people displaced from good paying factory jobs that were part of communities for decades. Some a century. Big difference from the 1990s when i grew up.
I've lived in Michigan for 67 years now.
The 2 worst things about Michigan are Detroit (Don't go there)and its governor.
FGW
It sounds like you have a lot of experience here in Michigan!
@@PaulWolfert Born and raised a have no desire to be any where else
Saginaw, Flint, all the big cities avoid like the plague. Scary to drive through even. Out of cities now and going into one I feel claustrophobic and head on a swivel.
@@JNoMooreNumbers I know exactly how you feel.
I won't drive in Detroit EVER
Love our Governor and Detroit. Go Tigers and Go Blue!
Mountain dew
Construction, Car destroying salt.. Liberals.. Detroit/Flint/Saginaw are ghetto.. Snow is one thing but 7 months of cold and grey winter is the worst.. Gas is expensive, flat and boring terrain, roads suck.... Tons of taxes and expensive car insurance.. I can't wait to move out down south..
Come on down to Texas! Thats what I did.. so glad to be out of that winter wonderland
VIRGINIA LOL CANT WAIT TO MOVE
SAME!!!!
Welcome to the club! Left a long time ago! lol
I'm from North California
Detroit Michigan LEAVING 1967 riot lost 50% of white people i was there
My parents fled there in 67. I fled a burbs near there 8 years just in time. Very dangerous in no time. After crime starting and a shooting behind the house, I called my realtor cousin to sell the place.
@@JNoMooreNumbers i am surprised you sold itnot white not right thanks for your reply hugs wheelchair larry
@@toddd7444 Well there was a stalker too. Crazy af. Delusional, bi polar and narcissistic. Had guns and if you've been institutionalized not supposed to have them or can't buy one at a shop. Background check fail right there. Plus been wanting a more country quiet type setting anyway. It's like a wildlife sanctuary out there.😁Heard banging around. Checked and a raccoon wreaking havoc🤦♀️. Still a better neighbor than many.😆
Better than California or New York
Ohio -> Michigan specificity Detroit. Coming from Dayton. Trust me Dayton is worse than Detroit
Let's think a minute. The west, fire, earthquake, landslides, and droughts.
East coast, those pesky Hurricanes, that can rearrange your life. The mid west, oh yeah. Those lovely tornadoes. God's way of getting a good laugh. So you thought you could do that? Ha ha! Droughts that challenge your Ingenuity.
Michigan... unsalted!
The headlines on your videos make Detroit and all of Michigan look horrible. If I was considering moving there I would never even watch the vid after reading the headline..Why do you do that?? It seems like you are selling things in MI but you tell people how horrible it is before they can view the "information" - You're advertising it to be a very bad bad place to go or live...
Thanks for the feedback! Hope you watched a few 🙂 Unfortunately, that's the way TH-cam works. Negative thumbnails outperform positive ones BUT, the information isn't negative. I've made a lot of positive thumbnails and the videos completely tank until I change them.
Don't move to Michigan. You won't like it... The people aren't very friendly.
I have found People are much nicer since I moved South. Michigan is not cheap whatsoever. In Florida now and it's a toss up financially. I can make more money in Michigan but then there are State taxes, higher housing and property taxes. People think Florida is expensive but my Florida house would double in price if I put it in Oakland county. Gas and Insurance are always high too.
Ive lived there my whole life and couldn't agree more.. thats one main reason we left..I seriously think they think being rude is attractive... U mmmm no.. try again. lol
trenton michigan, basements,fences, ;)
Lol woodhaven here,born in Wyandotte 😀