My best friend as a kid and young adult told me about drama time while I was on a several year break from wow. He and I had, as poor kids, played private server since tbc and retail here and there but I hadn't been on in ages and had missed the birth of twitch and this channel. I was busy with life so I never took him up on his suggestion that I'd love this show. He tried to get me to come back a few more times but I never did. Then he stopped asking, he had been burnt by wod and after the success of legion his guild fell apart on bfa Launch. He stopped playing right when I started again. I tried to get him to come back so we could finally have a go at it like old times, but his life was getting to be a mess and he was mad at the direction of the game. He died. 29 years old. I won't explain how but it was sad. There I found myself wanting to chat with him every time I learned something new about the game, but he wasn't there. It kind of hurts to play sometimes since this was our thing growing up but it's how I connect with his memory now. But one day I stumbled on drama time and the name popped in memory. This was the show he tried to get me to watch with him when I wasn't playing, when we didn't talk much, the one he had said I'd love, the one I totally blew off. He was right. I do love it and I regret not bonding with him over it. I burnt thru the entire backlog of episodes trying to find some place of Peace or connection after he died. So now I listen to the show like it's church. With him in my head every time. Thanks for the sermon preacher..
"Dont Overhelp" im sorry but this story really upset me. i dont understand how people can be so awful to someone for doing nothing at all except for trying their best to help the guild. my heart goes out to that guy and hope all the other people involved have something awful happen to them. it is not fair to play psychological mind games like that on the people who help run your guild and unfortunately it happens far far too often. if you are in a guild like this please leave. there are much better places out there.
It's the beauty of online communication, if you can't see them get hurt you can be a vile piece of shit without feeling bad about it. I myself have been in very similar situations because I'm overly kind to anyone I meet. If you're trying to be too helpful or too kind you will get used/abused because it's easy. You just need to learn to go "fuck it" and leave.
sadly i suspect the guy is socially addicted to this group of friends. probably in his mid 20s and single. This is his social life and so he puts up with a lot of abuse
But unless he misread the story its complete bullshit keystones were not added till legion so the fact that they thought they were the shit because they pushed keys makes it seem like its a made up story
@@mtownley78 he clearly fumbled the words and ment mythic dungeons you can tell that from the context. You say it's made up but over my years in wow I've seen the same thing happen again and again to people that I've been very close with. Hence it struck a nerve
I didn’t have this exact scenario, but I came back to WOW right when BFA came out. I rejoined a group that I had played with when I stopped playing in MOP. It had been 5 years, and I was our raid leader during ICC. I forgot how awful these guys made me feel. I just wanted to play the game. Constantly calling me out in disc over my healing, not offering any constructive criticism, just telling me I’m crap when I really wasn’t. They ruined Holy Priest for me, which was honestly my favorite spec/class. One of our main healers suddenly quit the game, then I was suddenly in charge of recruitment for 8.2 Eternal Palace. I couldn’t find anyone. And when I did, just like this guy, it got shot down. The main thing they wanted was a warrior. I found a great arms warrior and he came to a couple of raids but didn’t like the atmosphere and left. Just like this guy, they blamed me. I was done. I server/faction changed and switched from holy priest to my WOD boosted Ele Shaman that I never played because I had quit right before WOD. My goal was to find a guild where I can play and enjoy every aspect of the game I wanted to play and occasionally raid. I joined a guild where I got that and more. I’m not a core raider but they let me come on their alt heroic runs, and sometimes their main runs when my schedule allows. They are all chill. It’s a fun raid atmosphere. They never give me grief over my crap DPS (they are WAY better geared than me) and they love to help where they can. They helped me get AOTC in EP and now Ny’alotha. Just remember, you don’t owe anyone anything in this game. You pay the subscription, you don’t answer to anyone. The only person you answer to is yourself to make sure you have fun. I’m SO glad I made the change that I did. I started playing a couple months before BC up until middle of MOP and I have to say this is some of the most fun I’ve had in the game since Wrath and ICC.
@@nhagan001 there is only one answer preach is and will forever be a confirmed ship with Darth Ghost (i know hes gone and all but honestly i miss him the two of them reminded me of how i am with my best friend who i have known for about 15 years out of my 26)
Hey Preach, thanks for continuing to do these, I feel like over half off my WoW career I've had you on in the background listening to Drama Time. Your hard work is greatly appreciated!
@@charlieosstyn So cute. For such self claimed intellect don't you think it's kind of stupid to hang around and comment on youtubers you dislike? That is sad and disturbing. Did Preach gank you? Make you feel inferior? Get over it you pathetic man child, move on. I'm here enjoying the vid, you are here why? No really why do you CARE sooooo much? I'd really like the story behind why you think someone as kind and generous to this community as Preach is, is a Nazi. Finally Troll, If you are such an expert, why is your only comment to the designer. (more talented than you will ever be) is "looks shit"? I'd have thought a genius like you would have been able to point out some issues or at least provide some constructive criticism, but the best a bald nonce like you has is "looks shit" Classy
My first reaction when reading the video title: "Come on Preach, that's pretty harsh thing to say about your fellow WoW players." My reaction when he explains the premise: "Holy god they are the dumbest."
I want to ask one question. Firstly I watch "Drama time" for about a year. So my question is: Why people are so stupid? I mean people stay in guilds which treat them like shit and do nothing for them, while they do everything for the guild. And they just stay in guilds.... Some stories are so stupid and naive.
Cause some people are either drones, or too nice. Im guilty of it too - wasting a year on trying to help a guild, made them progress raidwise, multitasked during raids to make up for majority being boosted (Without a thanks and to a point where they are expecting to get carried), tried to make people individualized guides to improve their roles.... (of course majority didnt even bother to try.) and get disrespect and got ignore back once I actually stood up. We got a shitty attituded guy into the guild and he openly hurled insults at me (For killing a horde in Boralus... warmode... once.... - he thought I "had something to prove" and "tried to get a longer peen" (as a female, apparently I need one) ) We also had one guy who did not follow logic and was rude to me during raids while I was trying to lead and make the best of the gear that dropped - to give it to those it would benifit most. Aka not the one who stands in fire, does least dps with good gear (rng blessed) and is always one of those getting carried. But apparently thats BLASPHEMY! And apparently it was more important to keep these two assholes than to keep Me - officer who had done everything for over a year, their top tank, top healer, and two top DPS as my bf was on my side. The GM even had the immaturity to not give me an answer when I tried to ask him "Why is it so important to keep these" Another friend there left them too, he was also a top player. Their other high dps also left since their progress plummeted once we were out.
@@Catjamfan Sad to hear! Also the fact that you are a girl/woman is making problem to some guys with "small dicks".... they just can't stand with the feeling that they are lead by a girl and they need to prove themselves or assert dominance by harassing you. And don't know why you have put so much effort in this guild with 0 return. I would have left the guild after 1-2 months if they kept the same attitude to me personally.
Maybe their motivation to play is the guild and leaving all the progress behind will probably make them stop playing. I left 2 guilds cause they were unfair the first 1 I had like a 2 week break from the game the 2nd was like a month ago I ended up canceling my subscription cause my progress in raids is way to dependent on other ppl.
It's the same thing that happens in abusive relationships, essentially. It's why spousal abuse victims stay with their abuser. They think they can't do better. They think it'll work out. They think they'll have to give up their friends or the only life they've known if they leave. It's the same thing that's happened with WoW players as of late. Abusive Relationship, and they stay. I learned about the behavior from my first girlfriend. Lots of manipulation, gaslighting, and toxicity aimed at me. Not that I was a saint either, but after having that relationship finally end and being angry about it for two years... I got over it. I had someone else emotionally and psychologically put me back together. They walked me through the process and were there for me when I needed them, and stepped out of my life during the times I didn't need them so I could learn to stand on my two feet again. Since that point, I no longer let anyone walk all over me. Since that point, I recognize all the signs of that abusive relationship and call people out on it. Even on the internet. I'm still "overly nice" and try to help everyone, but if you look at me sideways like I'm some sort of obstacle or enemy... we're done. If you push further than that, you get told off. Push even farther, and I go out of my way to destroy your whole life. I don't tolerate the nonsense anymore, and I give people PLENTY of chances to stop being psycho/sociopaths/children. If you can't stop that, then you get to learn a harsh lesson about the world. Namely, there are people in it who won't tolerate your nonsense and will destroy everything you are and everything you have so that you can finally learn the harsh lesson that even YOU can be knocked down a peg. So, I don't stay with Guilds that are toxic anymore. I only help people when they ask me to help (I NEVER offer help anymore). I keep everything screenshotted or in writing as proof. Many people in guilds need someone to crap on in order to feel good about themselves because their lives are trash. They will never amount to anything. They will never accomplish anything. They lack drive, ambition, and intelligence to be anything more than what they are. So, they have to kick others down in order to feel higher than their station. NOBODY should tolerate that. I leave when I don't fit in. I leave when I think a Guild is stupid. I leave when I think relationships or people are stupid. I don't have enough time on this planet to deal with people's insecurities and psychological issues. Get a therapist if you need one, stop being a jerk to others.
On the 2nd story, everyone was screaming LEAVE and whilst its pretty obvious he should have left. Its pretty understandable why he didnt. Simple, cut costs fallacy He had put MONTHS of hard work almost every day into this guild, working nonstop to make it the best guild he could. Plus with his discussions with Jimbob about their "vision" for the guild, he was clearly way too invested overall. Leaving would mean loosing ALL of that. Basically, cut the guy a little slack, he was clearly not thinking straight and if you had gone through the same shit, youd do the same as him.
I wouldn't even PUT that much effort in the first place. The amount of work he put without being GM its just too much. I would've left first thing, if something like this happened.
That second story made me really mad, because I can relate somewhat. I never got trolled on his level, but I was in a guild that effectively made me do all the work, be it recruiting, dealing with complaints, and raid leading. I also had an afk guild leader who liked to come in and make decisions for us and leave. When you've put in months and months of work into a guild trying your damned best to make it work, it feels incredibly hard to just walk away from it. Eventually I did leave because it was just way too much and I was feeling physically sick every time raid days rolled around. Cut this author some slack, it's not his fault.
57:50 it's all for having the people in the runs. Jimbob and Duncan kept him around because it's 1 less person to recruit (and they actually pawn off recruiting on him). He's covering for Jimbob, Duncan, and Zyranthinia because he's hoping these 4 mythic geared players will stay.
That guild is the reason a lot of people hate loot council. It's more common than you think. GMs coming on ungeared alts taking loot, loot "councils" that follow no "rules" and just give to friends/gfs, etc. People not showing up until they feel like it and then taking over, etc
The people afraid of online confrontation boggles my mind. The last story is almost what happened to me at the end of Legion except I was upfront with my questions of why the leader and their followers were assholes and why they are taking the word of a girl who barely plays as gospel.... I feel like I should have written a story for preach back then but never thought of doing it.
The second story reminds me of why I don't ever want to be a guild leader or any sort. That and I don't raid, nor do I do serious pvp, also I play drunk a lot.
24:43 Never in the field of Azeroth Conflict have so many shenanigans been pulled on so many by so few. But this really really just sounds like people are desperate to be seen to achieve in classic.
Also that last story was big oof... the author was too nice for his own good... and I can relate. It's one thing to turn the other cheek, it's completely different when you try to do good and then you're treated like shit in return... you have to learn to stand up for yourself.
I wish actual businesses were like guilds. Something you could put your time into be rewarded for efforts. None of this soul rushing corporate dystopia. Man could actually enjoy his work in that world
Love them stories and feel so bad for the second guy. How must he get buy in life if he cant pipe up when he is behind the internet he must be a proper snowflake irl.
"Don't Overhelp" sounds like a guild I was in. Absentee GM who only showed up to raid when she felt like it, raid leaders pretty much running the guild and when GM did show to raids she would try to run over RL's even though she was the worst player on the team. Ugh the memories.
Ayy this was fun. I've never bothered with Drama Time before because I thought it was one story over an hour long. Guess I have quite the playlist to go through now!
i've listened to a LOT of drama time over the years, probably 75% of them, so i've heard a lot of shit, i mean a lot of shit. I'm listening to this one for the first time today, and this emphasis here at 9:00 has me going, DAMN, I need to go smoke a little more and crack open a few beers cause this is gonna be DAMN good. :D lets see!
"Don't Overhelp" Please, author. Start standing up for yourself or at least say "fuck you" and leave the guild. It pains me that you're just accepting the abuse.
I love and play this game exactly for these storys. Think about it, yeah it is cringeworthy and often stupid but it's also entertaining af and something you can tell as a fun story. And this kind of social aspect is also very unique imo. in WoW, i had nothing like that in games like WoT/LoL/DotA.. only EvE can bring even more absurd stuff.
On that final story, the stupid thing is that people literally don't understand the reality of what's happening. Some random guild I joined for about five minutes actually kicked someone for saying "damn" (as a compliment for finding good loot) in guild chat because "this is a family-friendly guild." That officer obviously thought she was making the guild a safe place for kids and reality could not possibly sink into that person's head. Instead of debating my thoughts with anyone, I thought it best to just find somewhere else.
The guy from the second story "Dont Overhelp" needs to learn from "A Man in Need" (S05E05), and start chatlogging/screenshotting these officer meetings so he could burn that guild to the ground in the end. Though doesn't sound like he actually needed the screenshots since most of the guild left once he was kicked, still would have been satisfying on this one.
It's one thing to be fooled by a fake Blizzard GM back during vanilla when MC was new and people didn't have access to information or warnings of scams, etc.. but the fact that this took place in Classic, with 15 years of knowledge available to every player.. makes it even dumber.
I didn’t have this exact scenario, but I came back to WOW right when BFA came out. I rejoined a group that I had played with when I stopped playing in MOP. It had been 5 years, and I was our raid leader during ICC. I forgot how awful these guys made me feel. I just wanted to play the game. Constantly calling me out in disc over my healing, not offering any constructive criticism, just telling me I’m crap when I really wasn’t. They ruined Holy Priest for me, which was honestly my favorite spec/class. One of our main healers suddenly quit the game, then I was suddenly in charge of recruitment for 8.2 Eternal Palace. I couldn’t find anyone. And when I did, just like this guy, it got shot down. The main thing they wanted was a warrior. I found a great arms warrior and he came to a couple of raids but didn’t like the atmosphere and left. Just like this guy, they blamed me. I was done. I server/faction changed and switched from holy priest to my WOD boosted Ele Shaman that I never played because I had quit right before WOD. My goal was to find a guild where I can play and enjoy every aspect of the game I wanted to play and occasionally raid. I joined a guild where I got that and more. I’m not a core raider but they let me come on their alt heroic runs, and sometimes their main runs when my schedule allows. They are all chill. It’s a fun raid atmosphere. They never give me grief over my crap DPS (they are WAY better geared than me) and they love to help where they can. They helped me get AOTC in EP and now Ny’alotha. Just remember, you don’t owe anyone anything in this game. You pay the subscription, you don’t answer to anyone. The only person you answer to is yourself to make sure you have fun. I’m SO glad I made the change that I did. I started playing a couple months before BC up until middle of MOP and I have to say this is some of the most fun I’ve had in the game since Wrath and ICC.
My best friend as a kid and young adult told me about drama time while I was on a several year break from wow. He and I had, as poor kids, played private server since tbc and retail here and there but I hadn't been on in ages and had missed the birth of twitch and this channel. I was busy with life so I never took him up on his suggestion that I'd love this show.
He tried to get me to come back a few more times but I never did. Then he stopped asking, he had been burnt by wod and after the success of legion his guild fell apart on bfa Launch.
He stopped playing right when I started again. I tried to get him to come back so we could finally have a go at it like old times, but his life was getting to be a mess and he was mad at the direction of the game.
He died. 29 years old. I won't explain how but it was sad.
There I found myself wanting to chat with him every time I learned something new about the game, but he wasn't there.
It kind of hurts to play sometimes since this was our thing growing up but it's how I connect with his memory now. But one day I stumbled on drama time and the name popped in memory. This was the show he tried to get me to watch with him when I wasn't playing, when we didn't talk much, the one he had said I'd love, the one I totally blew off.
He was right. I do love it and I regret not bonding with him over it. I burnt thru the entire backlog of episodes trying to find some place of Peace or connection after he died.
So now I listen to the show like it's church. With him in my head every time.
Thanks for the sermon preacher..
@@charlieosstyn Is this what it feels like to chew 5gum
So sorry for your loss, but your friend will forever be with you because he remains in your heart
:(
Hope your life continues for the better and only the better.
Youre that guy i think that everyone will turn out to be, Except your there now, Ya darn noob shudda listened to your m8, My m8s shud listen to me
F for the OP and his friend.
8:11 FOR First story.
Thank you kind man
Man it's cool to see this all in action finally after working on the new theme for so long. Big Pogs
Looks really great, like an early 3d point and click adventure
Great work, many poggies your way.
Need a female League of Legends death sound coming from upstairs the ERP xD
@@fredriklind6727 Lewd
I like the Adrian poster! "Hallow be thy Adrian!" And also the Drama Lama on the shelf, nice throwback!
""Film crew."
@@charlieosstyn what are you going on about?
how are both things ewen remotly connected?
I really hope the guy from the first story writes about how he dooped these guilds
Absolute megatroll.
Yeah, that would be effing stellar.
"Dont Overhelp"
im sorry but this story really upset me. i dont understand how people can be so awful to someone for doing nothing at all except for trying their best to help the guild. my heart goes out to that guy and hope all the other people involved have something awful happen to them. it is not fair to play psychological mind games like that on the people who help run your guild and unfortunately it happens far far too often. if you are in a guild like this please leave. there are much better places out there.
It's the beauty of online communication, if you can't see them get hurt you can be a vile piece of shit without feeling bad about it.
I myself have been in very similar situations because I'm overly kind to anyone I meet. If you're trying to be too helpful or too kind you will get used/abused because it's easy. You just need to learn to go "fuck it" and leave.
sadly i suspect the guy is socially addicted to this group of friends. probably in his mid 20s and single. This is his social life and so he puts up with a lot of abuse
But unless he misread the story its complete bullshit keystones were not added till legion so the fact that they thought they were the shit because they pushed keys makes it seem like its a made up story
@@mtownley78 he clearly fumbled the words and ment mythic dungeons you can tell that from the context. You say it's made up but over my years in wow I've seen the same thing happen again and again to people that I've been very close with. Hence it struck a nerve
I didn’t have this exact scenario, but I came back to WOW right when BFA came out. I rejoined a group that I had played with when I stopped playing in MOP. It had been 5 years, and I was our raid leader during ICC. I forgot how awful these guys made me feel. I just wanted to play the game. Constantly calling me out in disc over my healing, not offering any constructive criticism, just telling me I’m crap when I really wasn’t. They ruined Holy Priest for me, which was honestly my favorite spec/class. One of our main healers suddenly quit the game, then I was suddenly in charge of recruitment for 8.2 Eternal Palace. I couldn’t find anyone. And when I did, just like this guy, it got shot down. The main thing they wanted was a warrior. I found a great arms warrior and he came to a couple of raids but didn’t like the atmosphere and left. Just like this guy, they blamed me. I was done. I server/faction changed and switched from holy priest to my WOD boosted Ele Shaman that I never played because I had quit right before WOD. My goal was to find a guild where I can play and enjoy every aspect of the game I wanted to play and occasionally raid. I joined a guild where I got that and more. I’m not a core raider but they let me come on their alt heroic runs, and sometimes their main runs when my schedule allows. They are all chill. It’s a fun raid atmosphere. They never give me grief over my crap DPS (they are WAY better geared than me) and they love to help where they can. They helped me get AOTC in EP and now Ny’alotha. Just remember, you don’t owe anyone anything in this game. You pay the subscription, you don’t answer to anyone. The only person you answer to is yourself to make sure you have fun. I’m SO glad I made the change that I did. I started playing a couple months before BC up until middle of MOP and I have to say this is some of the most fun I’ve had in the game since Wrath and ICC.
Both of these were so incredibly painful
I really want Duncan named so he can feel all of our disgust pouring over him.
"Don't Overhelp".
I have never met a masochist before... but if I could picture one, it would definitely be this story's author.
Lol calm down Haas.
Charlie Osstyn hahahahahahaahah you’re pathetic 😂
@@charlieosstyn I get the feeling someone hurt you in life.
I would say I am sorry, but your response is definitely not worthy of one.
Things got out of hand quickly here.
@@charlieosstyn I'm utterly confused.. are you trolling or serious?
"Many policies I'll be introducing in the future are actually directly from him. His ideas , I simply implemented them". By Heinrich Himmler.
That second story hurt me. Author won't even stand up for themselves.
Watched on twitch. love the new backgrounds. You guys really do put in the effort on the production side, and it shows.
"Mankind is doomed." - Mike Jan 14, 2020.
A prophet among men.
That second story just had me scream "LEAVE, LEAVE, LEAVE, LEAVE GODAMMIT!" at my computer screen
Story starts at 8:15
This intro felt like SE from Daggerfall.
It''s from a game called Magicka, very good one.
Just came to comments about that SoundTrack
i thoroughly enjoyed this video. Thanks Preach!
One of the best Drama Time's ive ever heard, but also one of the worst some people are beyond stupid.
The special effects for Rise of Skywalker look great
So who are we shipping Mary Preach with?
@@nhagan001 there is only one answer
preach is and will forever be a confirmed ship with Darth Ghost
(i know hes gone and all but honestly i miss him the two of them reminded me of how i am with my best friend who i have known for about 15 years out of my 26)
Love the new format - nice work
sadly i havent watched drama in like a year but that background makes want to return SO I WILL !
Hey Preach, thanks for continuing to do these, I feel like over half off my WoW career I've had you on in the background listening to Drama Time. Your hard work is greatly appreciated!
I am already hyped for the new season of drama Friday!!!!! Keep up the good work!!!!!!
I like this new overlay. It's open and cozy feeling. Now you just need the drama lama chillin in the background.
Love the new opening and background, appreciate the magicka music haha
I came for the new Preach vid, stayed for Charlie Osstyn's mad ravings in the comments :D
Is that dude okay? Doesn't seem to be a bot
Right? I've been going through reading them all, what a nut job.
Preach, these need adding to spotify or some kind of podcast app. Love listening to these while drive cross country!
First story 8:10
Magicka OST intro hype!
Love the makeover for the format, very classy Preach!
@@charlieosstyn Awww bless, Who hurt you? Troll attempt 0/10, Salty factor goes all the way to 11.
@@charlieosstyn So cute. For such self claimed intellect don't you think it's kind of stupid to hang around and comment on youtubers you dislike? That is sad and disturbing. Did Preach gank you? Make you feel inferior? Get over it you pathetic man child, move on. I'm here enjoying the vid, you are here why? No really why do you CARE sooooo much? I'd really like the story behind why you think someone as kind and generous to this community as Preach is, is a Nazi. Finally Troll, If you are such an expert, why is your only comment to the designer. (more talented than you will ever be) is "looks shit"? I'd have thought a genius like you would have been able to point out some issues or at least provide some constructive criticism, but the best a bald nonce like you has is "looks shit" Classy
My first reaction when reading the video title: "Come on Preach, that's pretty harsh thing to say about your fellow WoW players." My reaction when he explains the premise: "Holy god they are the dumbest."
@@charlieosstyn Take your meds
Nice opening and background updates Mike. Nice job Chunky. Drama Llama head mounted on the wall would be a nice touch.
I want to ask one question. Firstly I watch "Drama time" for about a year. So my question is: Why people are so stupid? I mean people stay in guilds which treat them like shit and do nothing for them, while they do everything for the guild. And they just stay in guilds....
Some stories are so stupid and naive.
Cause some people are either drones, or too nice.
Im guilty of it too - wasting a year on trying to help a guild, made them progress raidwise, multitasked during raids to make up for majority being boosted (Without a thanks and to a point where they are expecting to get carried), tried to make people individualized guides to improve their roles.... (of course majority didnt even bother to try.) and get disrespect and got ignore back once I actually stood up.
We got a shitty attituded guy into the guild and he openly hurled insults at me (For killing a horde in Boralus... warmode... once.... - he thought I "had something to prove" and "tried to get a longer peen" (as a female, apparently I need one) )
We also had one guy who did not follow logic and was rude to me during raids while I was trying to lead and make the best of the gear that dropped - to give it to those it would benifit most.
Aka not the one who stands in fire, does least dps with good gear (rng blessed) and is always one of those getting carried.
But apparently thats BLASPHEMY!
And apparently it was more important to keep these two assholes than to keep Me - officer who had done everything for over a year, their top tank, top healer, and two top DPS as my bf was on my side.
The GM even had the immaturity to not give me an answer when I tried to ask him "Why is it so important to keep these"
Another friend there left them too, he was also a top player.
Their other high dps also left since their progress plummeted once we were out.
@@Catjamfan Sad to hear! Also the fact that you are a girl/woman is making problem to some guys with "small dicks".... they just can't stand with the feeling that they are lead by a girl and they need to prove themselves or assert dominance by harassing you. And don't know why you have put so much effort in this guild with 0 return. I would have left the guild after 1-2 months if they kept the same attitude to me personally.
Maybe their motivation to play is the guild and leaving all the progress behind will probably make them stop playing. I left 2 guilds cause they were unfair the first 1 I had like a 2 week break from the game the 2nd was like a month ago I ended up canceling my subscription cause my progress in raids is way to dependent on other ppl.
It's the same thing that happens in abusive relationships, essentially. It's why spousal abuse victims stay with their abuser. They think they can't do better. They think it'll work out. They think they'll have to give up their friends or the only life they've known if they leave.
It's the same thing that's happened with WoW players as of late. Abusive Relationship, and they stay.
I learned about the behavior from my first girlfriend. Lots of manipulation, gaslighting, and toxicity aimed at me. Not that I was a saint either, but after having that relationship finally end and being angry about it for two years... I got over it. I had someone else emotionally and psychologically put me back together. They walked me through the process and were there for me when I needed them, and stepped out of my life during the times I didn't need them so I could learn to stand on my two feet again.
Since that point, I no longer let anyone walk all over me. Since that point, I recognize all the signs of that abusive relationship and call people out on it. Even on the internet. I'm still "overly nice" and try to help everyone, but if you look at me sideways like I'm some sort of obstacle or enemy... we're done. If you push further than that, you get told off. Push even farther, and I go out of my way to destroy your whole life. I don't tolerate the nonsense anymore, and I give people PLENTY of chances to stop being psycho/sociopaths/children. If you can't stop that, then you get to learn a harsh lesson about the world. Namely, there are people in it who won't tolerate your nonsense and will destroy everything you are and everything you have so that you can finally learn the harsh lesson that even YOU can be knocked down a peg.
So, I don't stay with Guilds that are toxic anymore. I only help people when they ask me to help (I NEVER offer help anymore). I keep everything screenshotted or in writing as proof. Many people in guilds need someone to crap on in order to feel good about themselves because their lives are trash. They will never amount to anything. They will never accomplish anything. They lack drive, ambition, and intelligence to be anything more than what they are. So, they have to kick others down in order to feel higher than their station. NOBODY should tolerate that.
I leave when I don't fit in. I leave when I think a Guild is stupid. I leave when I think relationships or people are stupid. I don't have enough time on this planet to deal with people's insecurities and psychological issues. Get a therapist if you need one, stop being a jerk to others.
That new background is in dire need of an Iggle Piggle doll wearing a Hannibal Lecter-type mask.
Jesus. There's lvls to this shit. Wow. This gets deep lol. So many dynamics. Ty for this.
The production value just sky rocketed!
@@charlieosstyn Aha
On the 2nd story, everyone was screaming LEAVE and whilst its pretty obvious he should have left. Its pretty understandable why he didnt.
Simple, cut costs fallacy
He had put MONTHS of hard work almost every day into this guild, working nonstop to make it the best guild he could. Plus with his discussions with Jimbob about their "vision" for the guild, he was clearly way too invested overall. Leaving would mean loosing ALL of that.
Basically, cut the guy a little slack, he was clearly not thinking straight and if you had gone through the same shit, youd do the same as him.
No I wouldn't of I speak up a lot quicker and speak to all the officers and GM in one time get it sorted first go.
@@marioStortuga You unironically typed "wouldn't of". No, you would not have done that.
I wouldn't even PUT that much effort in the first place. The amount of work he put without being GM its just too much.
I would've left first thing, if something like this happened.
Literally domestic abuse.
High production value !
10/10 would recommend
Beautiful stories, amazing. Maybe I'll start playing again.
Huge upgrade looking awesome well done guys
"Dont Overhelp" the stupidity on display here by the author causes me pain......so much pain
That second story made me really mad, because I can relate somewhat. I never got trolled on his level, but I was in a guild that effectively made me do all the work, be it recruiting, dealing with complaints, and raid leading. I also had an afk guild leader who liked to come in and make decisions for us and leave. When you've put in months and months of work into a guild trying your damned best to make it work, it feels incredibly hard to just walk away from it. Eventually I did leave because it was just way too much and I was feeling physically sick every time raid days rolled around. Cut this author some slack, it's not his fault.
"Film Crew." Definitely creating a guild with this name now.
57:50 it's all for having the people in the runs. Jimbob and Duncan kept him around because it's 1 less person to recruit (and they actually pawn off recruiting on him). He's covering for Jimbob, Duncan, and Zyranthinia because he's hoping these 4 mythic geared players will stay.
Really good storytime this episode really laughed and loved it
Love the new background. Very well done.
Drama time... never failing to make me feel smarter then before I listen.
I normally don't like Drama Time videos, but the intro and bg are hilarious.
Holy fucking hell, the first story was so painful yet so astonishingly comical to witness. My brain fucking spins right now.
Classic makes people trust strangers on the internet like its 2004 again or something
new backround and new intro is looking crisp mate
Fuck man, y'all gotta stand up for yourselves sometimes. That second story just had me reeling.
That guild is the reason a lot of people hate loot council. It's more common than you think. GMs coming on ungeared alts taking loot, loot "councils" that follow no "rules" and just give to friends/gfs, etc. People not showing up until they feel like it and then taking over, etc
The people afraid of online confrontation boggles my mind. The last story is almost what happened to me at the end of Legion except I was upfront with my questions of why the leader and their followers were assholes and why they are taking the word of a girl who barely plays as gospel.... I feel like I should have written a story for preach back then but never thought of doing it.
Love the new theme, fresh and very cool it can be edited!
this drama time really set the tone for the year 2020
Crisp new layout! Looks really good!
The second story reminds me of why I don't ever want to be a guild leader or any sort. That and I don't raid, nor do I do serious pvp, also I play drunk a lot.
24:43 Never in the field of Azeroth Conflict have so many shenanigans been pulled on so many by so few. But this really really just sounds like people are desperate to be seen to achieve in classic.
Also that last story was big oof... the author was too nice for his own good... and I can relate. It's one thing to turn the other cheek, it's completely different when you try to do good and then you're treated like shit in return... you have to learn to stand up for yourself.
I wish actual businesses were like guilds. Something you could put your time into be rewarded for efforts. None of this soul rushing corporate dystopia. Man could actually enjoy his work in that world
The inn definitely needs a stuffed drama lama! XD
The reason this scam is working on multiple guilds is because victims are too ashamed to admit what happened to warn others.
Somehow I knew the entire raid group would be leaving with our lad, the person who actually put in the legwork in creating it.
The last story hurt my soul in ways I never thought possible
Love them stories and feel so bad for the second guy. How must he get buy in life if he cant pipe up when he is behind the internet he must be a proper snowflake irl.
"Don't Overhelp" sounds like a guild I was in. Absentee GM who only showed up to raid when she felt like it, raid leaders pretty much running the guild and when GM did show to raids she would try to run over RL's even though she was the worst player on the team. Ugh the memories.
The last story really hurt me deep waiting for a tieritem to drop and then the GMs groupie gets it ... ouch
Ayy this was fun. I've never bothered with Drama Time before because I thought it was one story over an hour long. Guess I have quite the playlist to go through now!
i've listened to a LOT of drama time over the years, probably 75% of them, so i've heard a lot of shit, i mean a lot of shit. I'm listening to this one for the first time today, and this emphasis here at 9:00 has me going, DAMN, I need to go smoke a little more and crack open a few beers cause this is gonna be DAMN good. :D lets see!
recovering from surgery right now and I'm so thankful for drama time to distract me from the pain and for making me laugh! thanks Mike :)
No one cares
@@anthonymiddleton7368 no one was meant to hun x
@@corrinexx wanna be my gf
Love the new intro and green screen. lmao! really, love it
Love the new intro and background
Man, i feel like preach has read the 2:nd story before, or a very frightening similar one, had major deja vú throughout the whole story.
Patience is one thing but weakness is a whole different level.
"Don't Overhelp"
Please, author. Start standing up for yourself or at least say "fuck you" and leave the guild. It pains me that you're just accepting the abuse.
Thanks Preach for all the giggles.
Holla! Love the new opening Preach!
cool set idea preach never seen anyone do this before
"Both of these spirits hurt me internally, what a great start to 2020"
Preach fucking knew
I love this background so much.
looks great imo. nice one.
whenever im feeling down i like to watch drama time
OMG, the red alert is awesome lol
JELLYBEAN 2 IS A MANDATORY ADDITION
I'm shocked that last story took that long to go to the green.
Is the intro music from Anno 1602? Sounds a lot like it.
It's from magicka
No longer low tech af - love the new greenscreen background
Goldshire inn? Please tell me it’s not on Moon Guard
12:50 thats an important question, they didn't want to scam a guild if it would take multiple pulls for the kill...
Love the Red Alert effect! And from storytime, Dajani is definitely the hero.
Watched in glorious 144p while playing Warframe on my Amd Apu 3400 with Amd 6450 Gpu.
I love and play this game exactly for these storys.
Think about it, yeah it is cringeworthy and often stupid but it's also entertaining af and something you can tell as a fun story.
And this kind of social aspect is also very unique imo. in WoW, i had nothing like that in games like WoT/LoL/DotA.. only EvE can bring even more absurd stuff.
On that final story, the stupid thing is that people literally don't understand the reality of what's happening. Some random guild I joined for about five minutes actually kicked someone for saying "damn" (as a compliment for finding good loot) in guild chat because "this is a family-friendly guild." That officer obviously thought she was making the guild a safe place for kids and reality could not possibly sink into that person's head. Instead of debating my thoughts with anyone, I thought it best to just find somewhere else.
The guy from the second story "Dont Overhelp" needs to learn from "A Man in Need" (S05E05), and start chatlogging/screenshotting these officer meetings so he could burn that guild to the ground in the end. Though doesn't sound like he actually needed the screenshots since most of the guild left once he was kicked, still would have been satisfying on this one.
That intro mate!
This first story. It just can't be real. It CAN'T BE REAL!
Preach got my "Like" when he set RED ALERT.
It's one thing to be fooled by a fake Blizzard GM back during vanilla when MC was new and people didn't have access to information or warnings of scams, etc.. but the fact that this took place in Classic, with 15 years of knowledge available to every player.. makes it even dumber.
those are some big classic player brains...
I didn’t have this exact scenario, but I came back to WOW right when BFA came out. I rejoined a group that I had played with when I stopped playing in MOP. It had been 5 years, and I was our raid leader during ICC. I forgot how awful these guys made me feel. I just wanted to play the game. Constantly calling me out in disc over my healing, not offering any constructive criticism, just telling me I’m crap when I really wasn’t. They ruined Holy Priest for me, which was honestly my favorite spec/class. One of our main healers suddenly quit the game, then I was suddenly in charge of recruitment for 8.2 Eternal Palace. I couldn’t find anyone. And when I did, just like this guy, it got shot down. The main thing they wanted was a warrior. I found a great arms warrior and he came to a couple of raids but didn’t like the atmosphere and left. Just like this guy, they blamed me. I was done. I server/faction changed and switched from holy priest to my WOD boosted Ele Shaman that I never played because I had quit right before WOD. My goal was to find a guild where I can play and enjoy every aspect of the game I wanted to play and occasionally raid. I joined a guild where I got that and more. I’m not a core raider but they let me come on their alt heroic runs, and sometimes their main runs when my schedule allows. They are all chill. It’s a fun raid atmosphere. They never give me grief over my crap DPS (they are WAY better geared than me) and they love to help where they can. They helped me get AOTC in EP and now Ny’alotha. Just remember, you don’t owe anyone anything in this game. You pay the subscription, you don’t answer to anyone. The only person you answer to is yourself to make sure you have fun. I’m SO glad I made the change that I did. I started playing a couple months before BC up until middle of MOP and I have to say this is some of the most fun I’ve had in the game since Wrath and ICC.