Vinh Ngo okay, I get that all games have limitations, but there's no way you can tell me you aren't seeing what he is getting at.. there is quite the gap between what you can do with the human body in real life and in that of games like call of duty or counter strike. All the games are severely limited human bodies because you have to be able to control it with a handful of buttons. If you could, say, shoot a grenade out of the air, adjust flashbang or drag throws perfectly, blind fire over objects without peeking your head out, etc. then maybe we could talk.. but there is no way to truly innovate the game because no amount of training could change the coding limitations. And although in real life we are limited by physics, in the game we are limited not only by physics engines, but also by any aspects of the game that were uncoded and technological limitations.
It's not a sport. It's a game *cough cough* Basketball, football, tennis are also games. "College scholarship for video games? Why?! It doesn't make you smarter in school!" *cough cough* Basketball, football, tennis also don't make you smarter in school.
The fact you're calling that idiotic shows you're just as ignorant as the media is about esports. Now I'm not much of a fan watching esports or traditional sports but both should be respected just as much. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's idiotic. I'm a gamer and love playing games and getting a bit competetive about it and I dislike sports such as football and basket and whatnot simply because i find them boring in comparison. Yet I understand how people can enjoy it just as people can enjoy watching Leauge of Legends or Counter-Strike. They are both the same the only differance is one is virtual and the other not. Both can be entertaining if it's what you like and enjoy.
And lets compare some things both competitive video games require and sports require:Awareness of your surroundings, fast reaction time,good team coordination, hand eye coordination, etc.
They don't understand how competitive the actual games are so they think it's ok to make fun of it and when someone makes a point the only excuse is "but it's just a video game"
those people should get put up in a team, get one hour palytime to unterstand the controls, than 2 hours to play as a team against bots to train their coordination, than they get in match against a Silver Premade Team (CS:GO example) or Bronze Team (Leauge of Legends) ...they will get slaughtered
it's not a sport. of course there is a competitive aspect and skill is involved but chess is not a sport and that has a much longer history than video games
"There's limitations on what you can do based on the programming, right?" So he doesn't play on that football players have limitations on what they can do based on physics laws?
technically the programming limitations equivalent for the physical sports are the games rules.basketball has rules,football has rules,every sport has rules.E-sports only have a handful of written rules,like "you win at 15 points" or "you cant cheat",and the rest of the rules are kinda covered by the programming limitations.
It's actually an upside when you think about all the times in, for example football, where there have been lots of controversial tackles and offsides, in a video game in is literally impossible to accidentally or purposefully break the rules without getting past an anticheat.
George Snell That's not entirely true. Developers and programmers can make mistakes resulting in bugs. And players have exploited those bugs. There was also an incident at a League of Legends final where both teams decided to take the money for first and second place and split it evenly between them. They then just played ARAM(All random all mid) in the finals.
It's RULES what limits all games, including sports. There isn't a single goal, like scoring a goal on soccer, you have to do so with your feet, you limitations as to where you can pass the ball, it is in a confined area, etc.. it's these limitations that make the games exciting in the first place, it's a stupid argument from the media. JSmellerM If I remember correctly, those teams were punished and the money taken away from them and that hasn't happened since, the scene was still pretty new while most sports have been competing for dozens if not a hundred years. There were still some rumors of cheating in CS:GO pro scene, so IDK, but they are exceptions.
There is also flaws in the rules that account for the exact same things as bugs. First idea that pops into my head is this past football season where the Ravens head coach had their guys hold the other team on the punt until there was no time left to run out the clock. Totally unfair and doesn't make sense. Same things with bugs, and the best thing is that they can both be fixed relatively easily. Also you may just agree with the guy above so sorry if this sounds like a direct attack.
The debate is very simple. If you consider chess and poker to be sports (which are widely considered to be), then competetive video games are sports as well. Its a very simple matter.
The only problem i have with that argument is that if you say that to someone that doesn't know to much about Esports they automatically think that it is a lesser sport such as chess and poker.
I actually do not think many people consider chess and poker sports, but I get your point. When I sit down with my uncles and aunts and explain it to them, they are usually really impressed with the strategy it takes. It is almost like the old media is telling the boomer generation how to look at it before we get to them :P.
@SlenderSmurf That is true, but being a tactical genius rewards you much more in Chess than in esports. In games like League of Legends, reaction and spatial-visual awareness give you a bigger advantage than knowing the tactics behind the champion match-up.
SlenderSmurf (λ)³ Chess is probably as complex as some Esports as you have to know multiple openings and different variations and traps and endings . If you watch professionals play you will understand as they take hours to figure out what to do and that alone shows its complexity.
wait if i am playing video games, i shouldnt watch people play video games? so if i play football, i shouldnt watch football? omg this guys are not getting it at all.... for me esports is sports, its maybe not a physical sport but a freaking mental sport, i hope you guys get what i mean... have a nice day ya all :)
Max Rennels There is physical activity. The players have to move their hands and fingers so technically it fits the definition of sport perfectly. Chess is a sport and you probably move your hands less in a chess tournament than an Esports tournament.
Look at the definition. It says that it has to require skill. Reading doesn't require skill. It even states that it requires people competing against each other. You can't compete against others in reading, can you? I understand where you are coming from. That sports should be physical like all traditional sports such as football. But games surely meets the definition of "sport".
Physical exertion, sure. For competitive gaming consumes so much dedication and allegiance that it has succumbed to such a degree of exertion, as a contingency is proclaimed, thereby if a "game" takes such a vast expanse of practice and pliancy, then why cant it be considered a sport, similarly.
0:13 "It's not scripted but you're limited to what you can do due to the programming right?" It's the same as not being able to pick up the ball with your hands in soccer (football).
Imagine if I was giving opinions on sports if I've never seen any in real life but only on TV once at my grandma's for 60 seconds but got bored and angry so I left. Would you think my opinion on sports is valid?
Lab Mammoth Mainstream Media would probably Humiliate you to the ground but if the internet makes fun of them they are like "Har Har look at these triggered chumps"
No, it doesn't mean video games are more popular than sports. It's a single video game that has worldwide attention versus a single sport that has regional attention. They're not at all in the same scope. Not to mention their numbers aren't calculated the same way which artificially inflates the viewership numbers for video games.
They call eSports and video games, just games. Yes, they are games, but what do people go to; football GAMES, baseball GAMES, basketball GAMES. Every sport is a game, just at a competitive level.
Well people that dislike Esports say it's just a game, which yes, it is. But also sports like: football, basketball, soccer, are all games too. You need to categorize both in the same group.
clips: 1: you are not a friend of this ok but let the hundred of millions who want it in peace pls 1.1: you have much more limitations in real live(body limit, physical laws.....) if something is in a game not possible you only need to change the code. 2.Old guy logic Star Trek=video games. 3.watching golf or soccer or many other sports is form me boring 4.there a people where watch other people playing ball or any other sport is this crazy to? 5. normal work is much more harmful and demanding for many people than gameing can be. 6. they get scholarship because not everyone is world-class in gaming exactly like in any other sport. 7.+ 8.1984 high school...... 9.+ last clip: lol
here is my reaction to this "I am not a friend of eSports" That's fine "It's video games" I know "It shouldn't be on a sport network" I agree it shouldn't be on a regular sports network, but not that it shouldn't be treated like one "It's video games" I noticed "By a large degree there's limitations on what you can do based on the programming right" Yes. It's called rules. In basketball you can't run outside the field. That's a rule. Programming is rules that can't be broken (unless you hack) "It's still not a sport, it's a game" Football is a game. Basketball is a game. Clue is a game. Wait what was I talking about? "Do you have statistics on how many of those people also go to Star Trek conventions" You say that like an insult (I don't like Star Trek BTW... don't hurt me) "I can't think of anything less insteresting" That's fair. I find watching basketball pretty boring. (don't hurt me please) "TH-cam Gaming is the new TH-cam platform on which people who play video games can watch other people who play video games" And CBSSports is the platform on which people who play football can watch other people who play football "And of course I made fun of this because there are people watching other people play video game" There are people watching other people play football, basketball, golf, soccer, and more! "That can't be good for you, you're staring at a screen" Well while your not getting much phycial workout, staring at a screen is fine. Anyway you're sitting at your chair. You're getting less workout than someone gaming. You're still fit aren't you.
Wamen : have you ever even played a video game. Non-gamer guy : yeah. Wamen : which one. Non-gamer guy : asteroids bowling alley 1984. 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬
We're a different generation. Why the fuck do people in different generations criticize us? Do we know our parent's mental functions? Their thoughts? Then why do they even try to understand ours?
Squirtale i hate fishing but professional fishers know were to fish, how to cast properly(and when), theres even actually technique thats goes into hooking to fish.
I fish a lot and I know there is some skill, which is why I said hardly any skill in my original comment because hooking a fish isn't that hard it's just timing it right.
Who cares what these people think. Who cares if they think esports are real sports. Esports are amazing, they're better than "real sports" the growth and success of esports has nothing to do with what they think.
This is the exact reason why I was never allowed to have my desktop PC in my room, and why my main passion for the past 15 fucking years has been disregarded this whole time. My parents never cared that I made extremely important friendships just by playing games, and they just forced me to have the desktop in the noisiest, non-private room in the house where they could always see the screen just to know exactly what I was doing. The computer to them was just a tool for checking email every week, and letting their 'other' kid occupy themselves with it (as long as I was doing something perfectly safe and boring). It was so bad in the late 00s, that my mom didn't allow me to play Runescape just because of what one player said in chat, so I could only play when no one was home, or if I could switch to another tab if someone walked in. Only having a passion for gaming, and being limited on what I could do online/what I could play/who I could talk to, has had bad psychological effects over 15 years, while, whaddaya know, my friends who could do anything they wanted in the comfort of their room and could pursue their passions without being harassed by their parents, turned out better than me judging by how they are going to good universities and studying tech and that. Since I've finally gotten old enough to do what ever I want, trying to get to Global in CSGO, and trying to spend as much time as possible playing games is pretty much meaningless now since all my friends don't play anymore, and like I said, go to uni. My parents ruined and stomped on my gaming passion so hard, that I had to compensate for it by getting myself into classical music and history, but those fields also require years and years of knowledge and passion, so thanks a lot, parents. If I were to have kids, I would never stand in their way of something like this even if I didn't understand it. It's just so frustrating how their ignorance ruined something so god damn important to me. But that's life. /end rant.
Thos was actually powerful haha. My mom does the same thing with game chat lol but they give me a gaming pc because i get good grades and stuff and its in my room sorry typed this one handed on phone haha
my grandpa told me there was a time when they were not allowed to play sports because its just tiring their body, its has bad effects, people die cause of heart attacks. but now its normal to play. its the same phase happening to esports now soon it will be accepted
How dare the government consider games athletes, what are they gonna do with that? Get athletes visas to compete in international tournaments with million dollar prize pools? Why would they need that?
Okay, as someone who has participated in 'real' sports, esports, and mental games (I.E. chess on a semi-competitive level) esports are not sports.. I don't know why that makes everyone so angry... there's nothing wrong with that. I love watching esports in certain games as much or more than watching some of my favorite sports on tv. But you must recognize that esports are esports. They aren't 'sports' and that's okay! It doesn't devalue them in any way, it just distinguishes the skills involved. Sure, it's hard to train your reaction time and muscle memory to hit flicks and whatnot, but there is no way that you can legitimately compare that to being in peak physical condition to performing on the field. Therefore esports participants are not athletes, they're e-athletes. It also astounds me that there is such anger over this.. I've never seen a poker or chess player get angry that they're not called athletes, and yet everyone respects the skills they must use in their game.
Tommy Clark but thats the problem, this people think less from esport because its no sport... even if we wouldnt call it sport they would still bash on it..if we convience them that esport is sport, they wouldnt bash on it anymore and have a bit more respect for these player. sry smartphone
SuperWero5 I would seriously disagree, the people that hate esports are going to hate esports anyways, sport or not. The critics won't go away, and the esports community is making itself look ridiculous in the process. The audience for it is big enough without the critics, so leave them be
Tommy Clark You are insanely incorrect. If you consider poker to be a sport, which it is recognized as such nationally, then esports is sports. You actually can compare esports to "sports" esports athletes often spend as much if not far more hours practicing and training. Yes it's less physically intensive, but strategy games like Dota and LoL require far more mental coordination and dexterity than football ever will. Esports events are now reaching the level of national sports attendance wise. Players travel across the world and practice for days and nights without stopping, they have to handle defeat and have massive determination because we all know that these top esports do NOT come easily as the skill gap is massive. A player who just starts playing a game that has been out for a long time will have to practice for years to even reach the level of skill of some of the top players on these games. Do some research before you post ignorant comments. p.s.- no one cares about chess
My family asked "Why don't you just play the game rather than watching it?" I waited until they were watching football and I asked the same question. Shut them up real quick
I am a former professional sports journalist and have been a sports coach for 19 years. In January, I started competing and coaching in esports, and I totally get it. Thank you for posting this. I'm going to link to it in my Discord server.
As a semi-professional football player and Gamer, I can tell you that Esports is a sport. Esports is extremely hard and requires huge mental and physical focus, which is the same us football athletes require as well, it also requires a good IQ like football to succeed in it. Its just these older Generations and their backward minded views of the world, the worl is progressing forward while they fall behind.
The only difference I find between sorts and eSports is one requires a lot more game knowledge while another requires physicality. They both are fun to watch, have two teams playing against each other, take skill, require strategy, require teamwork, have dedicated teams, can be done casually and professionally, draw in consumers, are GAMES, and take practice to perfect. Just because a football player can strain themselves or an ESports player has to study changing limitations of the game doesn’t make them so different.
It’s hilarious how close minded these news people are. They think because they are wise because they are older and they are so biased. They judge without even playing the game. They are like “the good old days were so much better when we had to *go outside* to interact with other people. Get with the times guys.
You didn't mention DotA 2? They say in the cs match ''but of course a quarter of a million dollars'' when in dota there is 20 million dollar prize pool
At least the Colin guy still said some proper games, even though his game is not an Esport grade games. Could be worse: >Have you ever play a game? >Yea >what is it? >*Candy Crush*
I have been a huge American football fan my whole life. Every year when the green bay games come on I wear my jersey, yell, cheer the whole nine yards. I also love video games. To me, they are the same. I watch both through and play both. There's no reason why esports can't be sports
I want to hear Pasha Bicep’s view on all of the “athlete” or whatever controversy. Because I guarantee that if reporters looked at him and were told he was on a team, they would immediately assume they meant rugby
I think the real question is what defines a sport? Does it have to be only physically challenging? Sometimes people aren't very athletic so they look towards video games to be somebody or just to have fun.
"Have you played video games" "Yea, asteroids, 1984" That's like someone who's only ever played with a ball in a cup saying "Yea, I don't really think basketball is a real sport, I mean, it's just getting a ball in a hoop, nothing special about it."
Sorry had to mute song at 2:40 due to copyright
Here is the rest of the video th-cam.com/video/vcBbVXBlT3g/w-d-xo.html
that was the best part... Good video btw that song fit perfectly
After thought They're
Okay Fam lol. "There" totally ruined the video. I demand a refund.
Thought my headphones were broken god damn
not to be a grammer nazi but you used the wrong "they're"
0:17 "limitations on what you can do based on the programming"
Don't you just hate it how real sports is limited by physics?
and don't forget rules :P
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Vinh Ngo okay, I get that all games have limitations, but there's no way you can tell me you aren't seeing what he is getting at.. there is quite the gap between what you can do with the human body in real life and in that of games like call of duty or counter strike. All the games are severely limited human bodies because you have to be able to control it with a handful of buttons. If you could, say, shoot a grenade out of the air, adjust flashbang or drag throws perfectly, blind fire over objects without peeking your head out, etc. then maybe we could talk.. but there is no way to truly innovate the game because no amount of training could change the coding limitations. And although in real life we are limited by physics, in the game we are limited not only by physics engines, but also by any aspects of the game that were uncoded and technological limitations.
I hope you were drunk, really tired or just trolling when you wrote that. Cause your arguments are beyond ridiculous.
Kristoffer Georges refute it then
It's not a sport. It's a game
*cough cough* Basketball, football, tennis are also games.
"College scholarship for video games? Why?! It doesn't make you smarter in school!"
*cough cough* Basketball, football, tennis also don't make you smarter in school.
fucking poker, chess, archery... golf... this is just idiotic, outdated people.
The fact you're calling that idiotic shows you're just as ignorant as the media is about esports. Now I'm not much of a fan watching esports or traditional sports but both should be respected just as much. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's idiotic. I'm a gamer and love playing games and getting a bit competetive about it and I dislike sports such as football and basket and whatnot simply because i find them boring in comparison. Yet I understand how people can enjoy it just as people can enjoy watching Leauge of Legends or Counter-Strike. They are both the same the only differance is one is virtual and the other not. Both can be entertaining if it's what you like and enjoy.
ok i didn't mean to start an internet argument *slowly grabs popcorn*
And lets compare some things both competitive video games require and sports require:Awareness of your surroundings, fast reaction time,good team coordination, hand eye coordination, etc.
yeet
But Chess is a sport.
Saiko chess is not a sport lmao.
Chess isn't a sport by modern or dictionary definition, it takes a different kind of skill set than regular sports.
Still officially considered a sport
Grand Master J ofc it is masterJ Lmao
i call bullshit on that post , it depends on the definition you go by. if chess is a sport so are e-sports
"Its video games, it shouldnt be on a sports network"
Now lets get back to our poker tournament.
Lol
They're
jjmrock I saw that 2😂😂😂
these people don't know the difference between sports and athletics
I was enjoying the video until I just saw that FeelsBadMan
jjmrock fuck you I was going to say that
I was gonna say that fml
when has the media ever been right though?
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Ali Dontini Can't think of anything off the top of my head.
Of course athletes would naturally be sympathetic to professional gamers, that's because real recognizes real. Unlike most of these chumps.
Albert Paul Miranda true NBA teams, players and ex-players are investing heavily into it
+How To Become... a very popular NBA player bought out a CSGO team Dignitas
-Temple- pretty sure it was a team? but yeah you could be right, all i know is someone in the nba bought dig
Shaq partially owns NRG and rick fox owns echofox
also jeremy lin formed dota 2 team vg j.
They don't understand how competitive the actual games are so they think it's ok to make fun of it and when someone makes a point the only excuse is "but it's just a video game"
They Will realize soon
they will not but for the next generation this will be norm
I think its hard for these older people to understand since in their generation, gaming isn't as huge and competitive as today.
those people should get put up in a team, get one hour palytime to unterstand the controls, than 2 hours to play as a team against bots to train their coordination, than they get in match against a Silver Premade Team (CS:GO example) or Bronze Team (Leauge of Legends) ...they will get slaughtered
it's not a sport. of course there is a competitive aspect and skill is involved but chess is not a sport and that has a much longer history than video games
"There's limitations on what you can do based on the programming, right?"
So he doesn't play on that football players have limitations on what they can do based on physics laws?
technically the programming limitations equivalent for the physical sports are the games rules.basketball has rules,football has rules,every sport has rules.E-sports only have a handful of written rules,like "you win at 15 points" or "you cant cheat",and the rest of the rules are kinda covered by the programming limitations.
It's actually an upside when you think about all the times in, for example football, where there have been lots of controversial tackles and offsides, in a video game in is literally impossible to accidentally or purposefully break the rules without getting past an anticheat.
George Snell That's not entirely true. Developers and programmers can make mistakes resulting in bugs. And players have exploited those bugs. There was also an incident at a League of Legends final where both teams decided to take the money for first and second place and split it evenly between them. They then just played ARAM(All random all mid) in the finals.
It's RULES what limits all games, including sports. There isn't a single goal, like scoring a goal on soccer, you have to do so with your feet, you limitations as to where you can pass the ball, it is in a confined area, etc.. it's these limitations that make the games exciting in the first place, it's a stupid argument from the media.
JSmellerM
If I remember correctly, those teams were punished and the money taken away from them and that hasn't happened since, the scene was still pretty new while most sports have been competing for dozens if not a hundred years. There were still some rumors of cheating in CS:GO pro scene, so IDK, but they are exceptions.
There is also flaws in the rules that account for the exact same things as bugs. First idea that pops into my head is this past football season where the Ravens head coach had their guys hold the other team on the punt until there was no time left to run out the clock. Totally unfair and doesn't make sense. Same things with bugs, and the best thing is that they can both be fixed relatively easily. Also you may just agree with the guy above so sorry if this sounds like a direct attack.
"Asteroids at a bowling alley in 1986" I think we have the next mega esports journalist here boys.
The debate is very simple. If you consider chess and poker to be sports (which are widely considered to be), then competetive video games are sports as well. Its a very simple matter.
The only problem i have with that argument is that if you say that to someone that doesn't know to much about Esports they automatically think that it is a lesser sport such as chess and poker.
I actually do not think many people consider chess and poker sports, but I get your point. When I sit down with my uncles and aunts and explain it to them, they are usually really impressed with the strategy it takes. It is almost like the old media is telling the boomer generation how to look at it before we get to them :P.
both chess and poker are far less complex than any e-sport I know of
@SlenderSmurf That is true, but being a tactical genius rewards you much more in Chess than in esports. In games like League of Legends, reaction and spatial-visual awareness give you a bigger advantage than knowing the tactics behind the champion match-up.
SlenderSmurf (λ)³ Chess is probably as complex as some Esports as you have to know multiple openings and different variations and traps and endings . If you watch professionals play you will understand as they take hours to figure out what to do and that alone shows its complexity.
"i'v played asteroid, 1984" this dude is giving a opinion on television based on knowledge of the fucking 80's
wait if i am playing video games, i shouldnt watch people play video games? so if i play football, i shouldnt watch football? omg this guys are not getting it at all.... for me esports is sports, its maybe not a physical sport but a freaking mental sport, i hope you guys get what i mean... have a nice day ya all :)
Zokkagames its just like with chess
Max Rennels There is physical activity. The players have to move their hands and fingers so technically it fits the definition of sport perfectly. Chess is a sport and you probably move your hands less in a chess tournament than an Esports tournament.
Stop being so fucking nice, ugh.
Look at the definition. It says that it has to require skill. Reading doesn't require skill.
It even states that it requires people competing against each other. You can't compete against others in reading, can you? I understand where you are coming from. That sports should be physical like all traditional sports such as football. But games surely meets the definition of "sport".
Physical exertion, sure. For competitive gaming consumes so much dedication and allegiance that it has succumbed to such a degree of exertion, as a contingency is proclaimed, thereby if a "game" takes such a vast expanse of practice and pliancy, then why cant it be considered a sport, similarly.
"Have you ever played a video game?"
"Yeah, asteroids..."
video ruined by "there"
unfortunatelly xd
The Ali8oras xd
"There wrong"... I cringed at that too.
Where wrong?
DoubleMcCheeseBadger came across your comment as soon as it popped up lol
"People watching other people play video games. That seems ridiculous"
I mean people watch other people play sport. So whats the difference?
Speczy OG There is none.
Speczy OG they dont realize
@@gs4011 yes there is loser
RC RACER 88 what is the difference?
@@discogaming6549 the other is real the other is not
0:13 "It's not scripted but you're limited to what you can do due to the programming right?" It's the same as not being able to pick up the ball with your hands in soccer (football).
They should watch out, some triggered assassins creed fans might get after them
haha
Assassin's Creed games are singleplayer ya moron
SlenderSmurf (λ)³ are you joking wtf....ac is huge in MP
HateThe Don't it's not huge in multiplay, it has shitty high var 16 tick ass. It has a multiplay platform, but its garbage
(stabs arrogant fucks)
*Requiescat de Pace*
Imagine if I was giving opinions on sports if I've never seen any in real life but only on TV once at my grandma's for 60 seconds but got bored and angry so I left.
Would you think my opinion on sports is valid?
Lab Mammoth Mainstream Media would probably Humiliate you to the ground but if the internet makes fun of them they are like "Har Har look at these triggered chumps"
people which never trained for something talk something bad... wow that is new
Paul Sheenius English plz
can you english
''you are just watching someone play a videogame''
ever heared about sports people where you just do the exact same thing
why won't they understand
cos the media are brainless
Have they watched on how hard it is to make a good moba game? @.@ sheesh.
Rick Fox I love you.
More people watched the League of legends finals than the Fifa finals LUL
No, they really didn't.
more people watched LoL finals than the NBA and MLB finals, but not FIFA
But you also have to realize LoL is watched internationally, whereas NBA and MLB is mostly viewed in America
No, it doesn't mean video games are more popular than sports. It's a single video game that has worldwide attention versus a single sport that has regional attention. They're not at all in the same scope.
Not to mention their numbers aren't calculated the same way which artificially inflates the viewership numbers for video games.
Joshua Anderson I would ask you how it "Inflates" the numbers, but I know you wouldn't have an actual answer.
"its funny how people watch other people play video games." *goes home and watches football*
They call eSports and video games, just games. Yes, they are games, but what do people go to; football GAMES, baseball GAMES, basketball GAMES. Every sport is a game, just at a competitive level.
Eli mind explaining that?
Well people that dislike Esports say it's just a game, which yes, it is. But also sports like: football, basketball, soccer, are all games too. You need to categorize both in the same group.
Bryan_Razor your comment needs to go up
"Staring at a screen all day can't be good for you" yeah like getting tackled is good for you
"There wrong"
So much epicness destroyed in two words.
JSmellerM it was so hyped up until that point
clips:
1: you are not a friend of this ok but let the hundred of millions who want it in peace pls
1.1: you have much more limitations in real live(body limit, physical laws.....) if something is in a game not possible you only need to change the code.
2.Old guy logic Star Trek=video games.
3.watching golf or soccer or many other sports is form me boring
4.there a people where watch other people playing ball or any other sport is this crazy to?
5. normal work is much more harmful and demanding for many people than gameing can be.
6. they get scholarship because not everyone is world-class in gaming exactly like in any other sport.
7.+
8.1984 high school......
9.+
last clip: lol
English?
Fucking read it.
here is my reaction to this
"I am not a friend of eSports"
That's fine
"It's video games"
I know
"It shouldn't be on a sport network"
I agree it shouldn't be on a regular sports network, but not that it shouldn't be treated like one
"It's video games"
I noticed
"By a large degree there's limitations on what you can do based on the programming right"
Yes. It's called rules. In basketball you can't run outside the field. That's a rule. Programming is rules that can't be broken (unless you hack)
"It's still not a sport, it's a game"
Football is a game. Basketball is a game. Clue is a game. Wait what was I talking about?
"Do you have statistics on how many of those people also go to Star Trek conventions"
You say that like an insult (I don't like Star Trek BTW... don't hurt me)
"I can't think of anything less insteresting"
That's fair. I find watching basketball pretty boring. (don't hurt me please)
"TH-cam Gaming is the new TH-cam platform on which people who play video games can watch other people who play video games"
And CBSSports is the platform on which people who play football can watch other people who play football
"And of course I made fun of this because there are people watching other people play video game"
There are people watching other people play football, basketball, golf, soccer, and more!
"That can't be good for you, you're staring at a screen"
Well while your not getting much phycial workout, staring at a screen is fine. Anyway you're sitting at your chair. You're getting less workout than someone gaming. You're still fit aren't you.
Wamen : have you ever even played a video game.
Non-gamer guy : yeah.
Wamen : which one.
Non-gamer guy : asteroids bowling alley 1984.
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We're a different generation. Why the fuck do people in different generations criticize us? Do we know our parent's mental functions? Their thoughts? Then why do they even try to understand ours?
All im going to say is that fishing is considered a sport, but takes hardly any skill
Squirtale i hate fishing but professional fishers know were to fish, how to cast properly(and when), theres even actually technique thats goes into hooking to fish.
I fish a lot and I know there is some skill, which is why I said hardly any skill in my original comment because hooking a fish isn't that hard it's just timing it right.
Lol ur totally wrong
I fish a lot and once you know where the fish like to be it becomes easy
I agree somewhat but for something like fly fishing there is a nice bit of skill in casting and playing the fish after hooking it.
Who cares what these people think. Who cares if they think esports are real sports. Esports are amazing, they're better than "real sports" the growth and success of esports has nothing to do with what they think.
Slippers03 meh just ignored them ,they were experiencing a phase to eldery
I'm with you the Atmosphere is so much better
Slippers03 haha yeah , its useless to hate esports because its booming worldwide , and old people/the media are being salty af about it
"I can't think of anything less interesting"
Golf
This is the exact reason why I was never allowed to have my desktop PC in my room, and why my main passion for the past 15 fucking years has been disregarded this whole time. My parents never cared that I made extremely important friendships just by playing games, and they just forced me to have the desktop in the noisiest, non-private room in the house where they could always see the screen just to know exactly what I was doing. The computer to them was just a tool for checking email every week, and letting their 'other' kid occupy themselves with it (as long as I was doing something perfectly safe and boring). It was so bad in the late 00s, that my mom didn't allow me to play Runescape just because of what one player said in chat, so I could only play when no one was home, or if I could switch to another tab if someone walked in. Only having a passion for gaming, and being limited on what I could do online/what I could play/who I could talk to, has had bad psychological effects over 15 years, while, whaddaya know, my friends who could do anything they wanted in the comfort of their room and could pursue their passions without being harassed by their parents, turned out better than me judging by how they are going to good universities and studying tech and that. Since I've finally gotten old enough to do what ever I want, trying to get to Global in CSGO, and trying to spend as much time as possible playing games is pretty much meaningless now since all my friends don't play anymore, and like I said, go to uni. My parents ruined and stomped on my gaming passion so hard, that I had to compensate for it by getting myself into classical music and history, but those fields also require years and years of knowledge and passion, so thanks a lot, parents. If I were to have kids, I would never stand in their way of something like this even if I didn't understand it. It's just so frustrating how their ignorance ruined something so god damn important to me. But that's life. /end rant.
Thos was actually powerful haha. My mom does the same thing with game chat lol but they give me a gaming pc because i get good grades and stuff and its in my room sorry typed this one handed on phone haha
That's happening to me currently. The media is what's to blame
Hello lovely TH-cam comment section.
I am starting to notice a trend. At 4:08 its They're wrong.
I apologize I am an idiot. good day.
After thought
This is me being a prick
*it's or it is
Ignorance. People tend to hate what they don't understand.
my grandpa told me there was a time when they were not allowed to play sports because its just tiring their body, its has bad effects, people die cause of heart attacks. but now its normal to play. its the same phase happening to esports now soon it will be accepted
How dare the government consider games athletes, what are they gonna do with that? Get athletes visas to compete in international tournaments with million dollar prize pools? Why would they need that?
they're..
FootballGAME, BasketballGAME, or in their words, FootballMATCH, BasketballMATCH... E-SPORT!MATCH! -.-
“Astro, bowling balling, 1984” I died lmao
i relly love how they say game over and over yet they forget that football is a game and hand egg is a game
Woah woah woah it's not scripted to a large degree? How would it even be scripted
Leon Kan that guy was beyond ignorant, I think he just got out of his cave recently
They're wrong...
Not there wrong..
*facepalm*
these are the same people that said hillary had a 99% chance of winning the presidency.
This is why Rick Fox is respected. He actually took time to understand what eSports is
Okay, as someone who has participated in 'real' sports, esports, and mental games (I.E. chess on a semi-competitive level) esports are not sports.. I don't know why that makes everyone so angry... there's nothing wrong with that. I love watching esports in certain games as much or more than watching some of my favorite sports on tv. But you must recognize that esports are esports. They aren't 'sports' and that's okay! It doesn't devalue them in any way, it just distinguishes the skills involved. Sure, it's hard to train your reaction time and muscle memory to hit flicks and whatnot, but there is no way that you can legitimately compare that to being in peak physical condition to performing on the field. Therefore esports participants are not athletes, they're e-athletes. It also astounds me that there is such anger over this.. I've never seen a poker or chess player get angry that they're not called athletes, and yet everyone respects the skills they must use in their game.
Tommy Clark but thats the problem, this people think less from esport because its no sport... even if we wouldnt call it sport they would still bash on it..if we convience them that esport is sport, they wouldnt bash on it anymore and have a bit more respect for these player.
sry smartphone
SuperWero5 I would seriously disagree, the people that hate esports are going to hate esports anyways, sport or not. The critics won't go away, and the esports community is making itself look ridiculous in the process. The audience for it is big enough without the critics, so leave them be
Tommy Clark You are insanely incorrect. If you consider poker to be a sport, which it is recognized as such nationally, then esports is sports. You actually can compare esports to "sports" esports athletes often spend as much if not far more hours practicing and training. Yes it's less physically intensive, but strategy games like Dota and LoL require far more mental coordination and dexterity than football ever will. Esports events are now reaching the level of national sports attendance wise. Players travel across the world and practice for days and nights without stopping, they have to handle defeat and have massive determination because we all know that these top esports do NOT come easily as the skill gap is massive. A player who just starts playing a game that has been out for a long time will have to practice for years to even reach the level of skill of some of the top players on these games. Do some research before you post ignorant comments. p.s.- no one cares about chess
esport is sport, because what is most important in sports is competition
My family asked "Why don't you just play the game rather than watching it?" I waited until they were watching football and I asked the same question. Shut them up real quick
I am a former professional sports journalist and have been a sports coach for 19 years. In January, I started competing and coaching in esports, and I totally get it. Thank you for posting this. I'm going to link to it in my Discord server.
Oldies will die while we are playing
As a semi-professional football player and Gamer, I can tell you that Esports is a sport.
Esports is extremely hard and requires huge mental and physical focus, which is the same us football athletes require as well, it also requires a good IQ like football to succeed in it.
Its just these older Generations and their backward minded views of the world, the worl is progressing forward while they fall behind.
Why is the biggest esports event The International not included in this video?
Joshua Lee maybe he likes csgo more than Lol and dota.
what is the song name at 02:40 ? I have to know! please don't say Darude - Sandstorm
The only difference I find between sorts and eSports is one requires a lot more game knowledge while another requires physicality.
They both are fun to watch, have two teams playing against each other, take skill, require strategy, require teamwork, have dedicated teams, can be done casually and professionally, draw in consumers, are GAMES, and take practice to perfect.
Just because a football player can strain themselves or an ESports player has to study changing limitations of the game doesn’t make them so different.
Fishing is a sport, let that sink in
2:19 so rick foxx, are you saying that esports athletes do not have concentrations , etc?
Have you played any video games?
Yes asteroids
It’s hilarious how close minded these news people are. They think because they are wise because they are older and they are so biased. They judge without even playing the game. They are like “the good old days were so much better when we had to *go outside* to interact with other people. Get with the times guys.
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As someone who plays football at my highschool, this pisses me off that they would degrade esports.
Future is now, old people
"its people watching other people play video games!"
Later goes home and watches someone else play football
Once the old generations gone, we can play at peace.
People need to realize that eSports is a real sport. Not anybody can just become a pro. It takes just as much dedication as any other sport
"its a game, its not sport." every sport started as a game......
"watching someone play a video game is stupid" .... turns on tv to watch a football game
You didn't mention DotA 2? They say in the cs match ''but of course a quarter of a million dollars'' when in dota there is 20 million dollar prize pool
That first clip. Well the limitations with soccer or football are pretty big too. Can even go over a little white line.
"Video games are just a game" "Football *game*. Soccer *game*. Baseball *game*" [Insert Emperor Palpatine's "Ironic"]
When time itself leaves you in the dust ...
At least the Colin guy still said some proper games, even though his game is not an Esport grade games.
Could be worse:
>Have you ever play a game?
>Yea
>what is it?
>*Candy Crush*
Omfg the second part when he showed plays and the volume went up and down, that was so triggering
like what the old saying "people tend to hate things that they dont understand"
I watched the Rainbow six siege Invitationals and i was WAY more interested in this more than any other sport I’ve watched
I'm just waiting for the esports Olympics. A gigantic tournament with like 15 different games.
I have been a huge American football fan my whole life. Every year when the green bay games come on I wear my jersey, yell, cheer the whole nine yards. I also love video games. To me, they are the same. I watch both through and play both. There's no reason why esports can't be sports
I fucking love it when some of these people actually stick up for eSports as a legitimate thing
I want to hear Pasha Bicep’s view on all of the “athlete” or whatever controversy. Because I guarantee that if reporters looked at him and were told he was on a team, they would immediately assume they meant rugby
The more people that dont know about how big esports is going to be the more money we can invest and get from the sport
i love how they actually, like, get MAD because they cannot for the love of god fathom. it's hilarious.
i would love to see those people be interviewd again to see if they realize how idiotic their comments were
Letting them know the amount of money influx into the industry is the only way to make these people understand.
I love how professional athletes talk highly of esports
I hate when people say "How can you watch people play video games?" Then they proceed to watch NFL , MLB , NHL , NBA, etc on the T.V. How ironic
I think the real question is what defines a sport? Does it have to be only physically challenging? Sometimes people aren't very athletic so they look towards video games to be somebody or just to have fun.
Hes probably picturing Mario 64
"Have you played video games" "Yea, asteroids, 1984" That's like someone who's only ever played with a ball in a cup saying "Yea, I don't really think basketball is a real sport, I mean, it's just getting a ball in a hoop, nothing special about it."
Omg that guy played asteroid what a competitive game
1:00 Why do they have a laugh track on a talk show??
What's wrong with the audio in this?
"it shoudnt be" GUESS WHAT BOI, ITS HERE AND ITS COMING.
wats de diferrend bitween esport n f1 motogp and other racesport, they didnt use physics????? and they said its a sport
this is why there is a saying
"ONLY GAMERS CAN UNDERSTAND"
*Professional athlete defends the authenticity of esports*
Person with no experience in the athletic field: WELL ACTUALLY
Name of song at 4:40??
The Hives - Hate To Say I Told You So
I'd love to see these people saying "its simple thumb movements" face ByuN in starcraft 2.
People watching people play videogames.
Then what do you do when your favorite football team comes on?