RICK FOX says Pro Gamers Are Athletes on 'The View'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มิ.ย. 2014
- Professional athlete and 3 time NBA world champion Rick Fox publicly legitimizes gamers everywhere on national television show called "The View" by stating that he absolutely considers pro gamers to be professional athletes just like he is.
Rick also mentions his upcoming LIVE video game culture show called "House of Fox" on TwinGalaxiesLive.com - เกม
when your rick fox and you clutch a 4v1 on the view
Fucking Lol get this to top comment ahahahaha
10/10 comment
Rick Fox * Alienware
holy shit this comment is so much on point
when your rick fox and you clutch a 4v1 on de_view*
"Explain to us"
"Yeah explain to us"
Shut up he is explaining jesus christ LOL
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No matter what line up of women are on The View, they never let there guest star talk without interrupting them. Let the man speak damnit!
OmG uR sexISt
qNxX - HAHA!
Remove women? Hell no!
Whoopi Goldberg is lovedly!
just remove all the women sides whoopie shes not as dumb as the other 2 :P
sounds like a typical group of women LOL
"Why isn't an engineer an athlete?!?" It's like they don't even think...
ikr....maybe its because Engineering doesnt have matches? Like theres nothing competitive in engineering in terms of having like actual matches such as a Basketball Match, League of Legends Match etc...
Obviously it is, because of all the rigorous practicing they do for 12 hours a day, and competing against others in matches in front of an audience for entertainment purposes.
Many places define an athlete as someone who works together on a team against another team or other people for entertainment purposes. I think that's fair.
It gets to the point where I have to wonder if they're just stupid, or they just refuse to think or consider it, when an argument so sensible is placed right in front of them.
They're professional, they compete, they do it for a living.
Vincent Price
wait did u just say an engineer is an athlete it has to be a sport for someone to be an athlete.
JonnyMan62 Sarcasm since the lady in the video asked why engineers weren't athletes, which is because engineering has no competition or audience, it's not for entertainment etc.
thats because women dont
"Why isn't an Engineer an athlete?" Maybe because they don't compete? These people are ignorant .
Neither is an athlete
he went in clutch gj rick
1v4 clutch win
Rick Fox clutches 1v4 on de_view
LOL!
Peter Lee inting*
more like 3-0 win over clutch
I sat right behind Rick Fox at the League of Legends North American finals at Madison Square Garden. Great guy!
Did he give you chicken tenders. that's what he did for me.
Rick Fox is devastated that his son did not go on to be a stud and make the league. He now has to console himself that his offspring is content to sit on his ass with no cardio workout, a vitamin D deficiency and be a recluse. Yay!!!
Professional athletes don't just sit in chairs doing nothing, homeboy. They are forced to have a good diet and are highly encouraged to work out. So before you tells someone's son that they are a stud and a failure for enjoying something that is a multi millionaire business, why don't you get off your high horse and research for yourself instead of giving a biased assumption. Then come back at me and provide a real argument.
It's funny how Chess is considered a sport but when you say gaming is people lose their freakin' mind.
It's the mentality that has been pounded into the minds of our parents generation that gaming is bad and spending time on the computer can go nowhere for people. What parents don't understand is that if you are good enough to compete on a professional level then you can make a living by doing it. It's the same thing with quitting your job or dropping out of school to do TH-cam full time.
And people spending time on computers are among the most rich in the freaking world :D
chess is not a sport either
Chess is a sport, the only place to not consider it a sport is the UK. Hell the International Olympics Committee even deems Chess a sport. The defining attribute of "sport" is competition. Sport does not make you an athlete, athlete is used as a general term for sports which is wrong, Athletes can range from people who just exercise to people who play soccer in their back yard every day. Athlete is a term for someone who likes to stay fit and do lots of exercise, sports is about competition.
It’s still debatable.........
"Do they have skilled thumbs or something?"
This triggers me as a PC gamer.
obv talking about professional clash of clans
And even more strong/skilled wrists. #GoldenKappa
Dont some mouses have like side buttons you use your thumb lol
Same
Oof
It's "competing" dude. That's what makes pro-gaming sports.
Troy Carter it’s not physical though
Pap I agree it can be a sport I wouldn’t call professional gamer an athlete though that just feels wrong. It need its own category.
Marco Alverez You mean like: ESports Athlete?
No No yea I guess my point is they don’t fall under football, basketball, baseball, etc . So they shouldn’t be called athletes cause you don’t have to be athletic to play video games. It more of a intellectual “sport”. But even calling it a sport is still debatable. It fall in with “sports” like chess and you wouldn’t call a chess player an athlete now would you . I don’t even consider chess a sport smh . And esports professionally gamer is more appropriate than esport athlete. Nothing athletic about playing video game
Sneaky Dab Emoji actually, taking a golf swing requires a very specific sequencing of movement and control of power, so yeah, athleticism is definitely involved. However, by that very logic, gaming also requires very specific sequencing of movements by the hands as well as tracking of the eyes. If skets (shooting) can be part of the Olympics, I can't see the argument why gaming cannot.
Hate when this kind of people talk over him while he's trying to explain something to them..so annoying
Dankey the Downysaur I want to tell her to moove over
mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove over
"If you don't break a sweat, I don't consider it a sport"
Consider me rustled.
+Mike Hall Jesus if it is about sweat i have a deodrant near me i spray on every league of legends game...
+Mike Hall Funny thing is you really do sweat when playing some tense league of legends games
+TheSupericedragon Very true indeed!!!! The tension is real!
+Mike Hall Dumb bitches be like: It's not physical so it's not a sport. Cough! Dart, cough! Chess back in my days I went to the post office sending letters. Now the fucking nerdy no life kids use emails, they can't fit into society.
+Mike Hall I refuse to consider you rustled as you are called Mike and not Jimmy
"I don't understand what he's trying to explain but because I'm an ignorant tool and it might go against the stereotype I've grown accustomed to, I'm just gonna keep interrupting him and making cringeworthy jokes to derail/devalue what he's saying"
exactly...
American TV is the worst
You have these type of early morning shitshows in other countries too. They're the ones whose target audience is the stay-at-home mom who feels smart by listening to people discuss topics they have no qualifications for.
Well yeah the View is shit but all "news" shows like this are gossipy bullshit. You can't judge all u.s Tv of this dying hardly watched channel. And all modern television is just a copy of the original American tv changed slightly to fit a nations culture.
American TV is amazing dude. What about Breaking Bad, The Wire, The Sopranos, House of Cards, Friends, How I Met Your Mother, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Band of Brothers Madmen, Firefly, Suits, Prison Break... The list goes on and on.
Aleem Yawar thats not really "tv" atleast not what i meant by it, those are the series and the movies, and i have to agree that those are awesome, (but the fake laugh in some of the shows is unbearable IMO)
menno van der poel Broadcast television is a dying medium in this country, fortunately.
The view are laughing at Sports, but in a close future people will laugh at them!
Well, people already laugh at them, just look at the comments haha
Aren't we already for them being a tv-show?
These people don't even look like they've played any type of sports, so who are they to judge those who consider competitive video gaming a sport?
Felipe carmo Here we are in 2018 *get fucked*
Felipe carmo we already are
props to Rick for not standing up and giving the 3 of them one looooooooooong right hook
Let my man SPEAK PLEASE, that blonde girl was more annoying than my dam videos, jeesus
Fuck off please no one likes you.
Afk you must be a follower of trump and lover of that dumb blonde
Pulse Pulse What the fuck do politics have to do with this?
+Brofresco i hate your videos but this was a top quality comment!
Don't listen to them, your videos are awesome!
I'll just bring up this point; If a sport such as chess, poker, etc is recognized as a sport, why can't gaming? The definition of an athlete is a very loose term, and it ought to be changed soon.
dude soooo right
Some people don't think Chess, Poker, they even go as far as to say Golf isn't a sport. Everyone just likes to have a pissing match because they don't like or agree with something so they won't even consider it.
I've heard sport defined in some dictionaries and places as "A game between two opposing sides fought in a competition for entertainment purposes"
Vincent Price I guess ignorant people think sports is all about running around a field kicking and punching...
Daniel Teixeira Dude your replied to almost every single comment. Calling people who dont share your views ignorant. Go outside
Professional entertainer, anyone can kick a soccer ball, anyone can dribble a basketball, anyone can pick up a microphone, anyone can pick up a controller. But what do all of these on their highest level provide? Entertainment!
do they normally just talk over each other on this show or are they just being rude?
I think they are just triggered.
Americans....
Deven Sankersingh they interupt any guest that doesn't share their ideals and roll over their invited guesy
They're all narcissists and love hearing themselves talk with their superior opinions.
1) I don't care much if pro-gamers are considered athletes. I just wish people would have more respect towards them, and stop acting like everyone that plays games is an instant child loser that can't balanced his/her life properly.
2) I wish they would let Fox make his point, they kept interrupting him like morons.
3) "Why isn't an engineer an athlete?" Bitch, because engineering isn't a game. video games are games, Basketball is a game, Baseball is a game, Football is a game, Soccer is a game, Chess is a game, Poker is a game, Golf is a game.
4) "If you don't break a sweat, I don't considered a sport" Glad that people like her don't get to decide such things. Poker, Chess, Nascar and Golf either don't break too much of a sweat or none at all, and yet, they still are sports.
5) Mad respect for Fox to bring such unpopular topic on Tv and at least try to explain it.
Respect has to be earned. I respect farmers even more than I respect doctors and I respect roadsweepers even more than you people for starters. Yeah most pro pro pros are, and their stories are often hanging economically on the edge despite hitting 40.
Fox tried hard on this like his basketball or whatever, but he couldn't explain even that to himself.
1.) Go to Korea and Japan. They are worshiped there in comparison. I've seen it first hand. Its amazing and quite a spectacle.
2.) That's typical "The View". Nothing can prepare you for the noise that is The View
WufanGohan
Well, it's a good thing that pro gamers have earned respect then.
dude you are god for this comment.
I love and agree with all of your points, I'd just suggest you remove NASCAR from the "not breaking a sweat" kinda sport. I get your point, but those jumpsuits get really hot from what I've heard. Other than that, I completely agree and stand by your points, I just feel like that revision would discourage others who are chomping at the bit to lash out at people like us.
The hand eye coordination/spatial awareness of gamers is reputed even in scientific studies . . .
And reflexes
You could argue the same for real athletes but with their whole bodies
@@sippi2099 you're exactly right but to what degree does it need to be more physical before you consider one an athlete?
At the highest level, athletes of all type do things all of us can do but not to their level. That's the part that separates the breadwinners from the rest of us who use it as a hobby.
"Explain it to us" MAYBE HE WOULD IF YOU STOPPED TALKING OVER HIM
I have been an athelete and a gamer my whole life. The difference I have noticed are is having fast reflexes, reading a play, endurance and things of this nature. The similarities in both of these categories are there but the difference is physical activity versus mental activity. Gaming requires you to think more frequently with no relaxation until the game ends (depending on the level at which you play), where most physical sports have downtime between plays that allows you to rest your body from the bursts of energy used.
My two cents.
There's also the speed of physical inputs to think about. I played a lot of Smash Bros, but the professional players can do 7-10 button inputs in a single second (similar to APM of say a Starcraft player) and I can't do it that fast.
They're so precise with movements that it's insane, and that kind of makes sense as to why people above 25 are said to have long hit their peak and will never be as good as the younger players.
Vincent Price
yea and stuff like baiting and switching what bomb site to push its all like qucik decisions
Vincent Price The speed of physical input was covered under reflexes but that gives an even more in-depth response to it than I cared to type. A split second reaction to turn and shoot, hit an ability, etc. can mean life or death in a video game, it doesn't occur that often in sports.
I guess that is true for most american sports however in football (soccer) you have to be constantly keep track of the other players. For example as a defender you have to keep track of the 1-3 opponent's forwards and also 2-3 defenders that are on your own team to have a good defensive line and also you have to adapt accordingly as the game goes on. The only down time is after 45 minutes and then its on again for another 45 minutes.
The game that the scholarship is for is League of Legends and there is a surprising amount of similarities between soccer and league and the main thing that separates the two is that league is not an athletic game. Which is also why people have started to categorize it was an e-sport and not as traditional sport. To be competitive in both games you need everything you mentioned previously, good reflexes, able to read a play and act accordingly, endurance to train for long periods of time (mainly mental) and a competitive drive.
eHRGeiZ You know everything can be a sport now. Look at curling
I can understand someone who doesn't have knowledge iof a topic on this show...that doesn't upset me.
The fact that as someone is tralking, 2-3 of the members speak up and don't shut up as he's still mid-sentence.
They tell him 'to explain what he means' And has he is doing that, they keep interupting
It kinda reminds me of this old political cartoon I saw. Somehow couldn't find it though, did find some antisemitism though if that counts. THe cartoon was of a man bound and gagged being dragged in front of the judge and the judge saying "You have the floor now plead your case." The man obviously not being able to even talk.
Lets just take the positive out of this. Rick Fox is a champ and Whoopi plays Diablo
3x champ
Whoopi Goldberg plays diablo? the more you know
regardless whether he's right or wrong, props to him for standing up for something his sons passionate about. seems like a good dad
whoopie plays diablo? lol
IKR??? I like her even more now lol
Nuetronice IKR XD
she probably plays witch doctor XD
probably diablo 3. which sucks.
@@huynh258 underrated joke
we sweat when we have sex...can we consider being in the porn industry a professional athlete? ;)
+xSonic Might as well. Looool Pornolympics 2016!!
career change accepted
Douglas Paulson im pretty sure they take something to stay hard for that long, they arent that hard like that normally
xSonic So you're saying they use performance enhancing drugs? Sounds like pro sports to me.
Douglas Paulson should definitely be athletes then ;)
Rick Fox seems like one stand up gent. Looking forward to seeing his progress with Echo Fox. It is shaping up to be one powerhouse of an esports organization!
"20 years from now well be biting our tongues right now"
- Jenny McCunthy 2016
just search her in two and a half men and Playboy magazine LUL she dumb, I hate her.
Gaming takes alot more skill than these tv hosts thats for damn sure.
"Explain."
"Well you see-"
"THAT CAN'T BE!"
You know, cause why trust the guy who actually is an expert and an athlete?
They think the only skill you need to play videogames is to be quick with your thumbs...
“gamers aren’t intellectual athletes”
i don’t think they understand how much strategy and how much every decision needs to be thought out to be good it obviously takes intellect
whoopi is the only reasonable one on this show,besides rick of course
Thank you rick for standing up for us.
As the last member alive rick fox pulled off a 1v4 and killed 2 separate bomb carriers .
"Explain?" proceeds to interrupt any chance she gets.
Brb going to buy a bunch of Echo-Fox merch on this alone. Dude is a legend.
I think the key distinction to make is that between "athletics" and "sports". I don't think gaming can be considered athletic simply because that is by definition physical, but it can be considered a sport, which I think is more defined by its competition. Gaming does not require athleticism, but it does require a large amount of commitment, focus, and passion, and just as much as any other sport, and this is where the primary focus of the debate should be.
Goldberg was the only one that made an effort to understand what Rick Fox was trying to articulate. Good for her.
Ugh, how do people watch this show? I could barely make it through the clip.
"You don't sweat-"
Me on a 70 min League ranked match with Do or Die promos and my sanity on the line where one move will decide whether you'll have a Euphoria or Mental *breakdown breakdown*
every society has ignorant conservative people, only the topics change
100 years ago being a professional athlete wasn't recognized as a real job
You can tell that woman who makes the "breaking a sweat" comment has never really tried hard at anything if she can't even grasp the concept of sweating for any reason other than exhaustion.
when whoopi said " i play my diablo", that's pretty dope
1:00 minute mark "explain, explain" *keeps interrupting Rick as he tries to speak*
Wow like a flock of chicken. Uncivilized. Whoopy's cool though
Massive amounts of ignorance shown by the The View people. Learn about a topic before talking about it, it doesn't even take that much research.
Also let him talk....wtf.
What is up with the amount of camera switching in this 4 min clip, its like they have to bait their watchers into being interested
They call golfers professional "athletes", as well as pool players, there's even an olympic race for walking.
Whoopie goldberg plays diablo?!!!!!!!
This guy is the hero games deserve!
Seriously, pro-gamer or not, gamers tend to get the low rung of respect in society as the easy butt of jokes. Massively popular 'nerd' TV shows like Big Bang Theory and comedic movies love to poke fun at the gamer archetype and gamers have to claw at every ounce of respect. Even more so if they self identify as a professional gamer.
Good on Rick Fox for standing out for the pros and in extension, the everyday gamers as well!
Would like to see the same line up interview again. They are so inconsiderate, i'm not sure who the 4 of them are. But when a professional athlete explains to them all the qualities needed for his sport and says that they are the same needed for professional gaming who are they to rudely talk over him and say "is it though". also Team-work is vital for all sports and this goes with gaming as well.
Nice Ace Rick
Why do they keep cutting them off :/
Maybe if they stopped interrupting their guests, they wouldn't have been fired. Rick even joked in a podcast that him being there got them fired. Lol
i like the fact that he is a goo dad, he at least try to understand he's kids and try to support them :)
I acctually are kind of confused. Is it normal that in amaeican Tv the people are interrupting each other constatly?
yes
im doing a paper on discrimination/bias and my topic is the negative view of professional gaming... this interview is golden for this
This fuckin' show. Aptly named the View since you may as well turn the volume down. I swear, every clip I see involving this show has someone trying to say something only to have the hosts demonstrate the composure of 10 times as many kids in a grade school cafeteria all yapping over each other.
"BAWK B-BUH BAAWK" *10^200,000 = The View
Lmfao.
i want to see them try to pull off a shurima shuffel with no practice. see how difficult that is. and to develop map awarness and the game knowledge to predict enemy locations without knowing where they are.
Gaming also takes a lot of physical exertion. Forearm, hand, and finger dexterity. Players on averages do about 400 movements per minute on a keyboard/ mouse and achieve upto 160 to 180 beats per minute which is similar to what happens during a very fast marathon. Sports doesn't always have to be big movements even the little ones count.
Some adults can't understand it simply because it's a completely different education. The ones that do understand is because they can relate to it in some way or another. Most of us will probably not understand some things are kids will be into and it's normal it's how the generation goes.
Why the fuck did she try to compare pro gaming with engineering? There are the aspects of performing competitively in front of a large crowd, teamwork and acquiring sponsorships that are comparable to professional physical sports.
Can someone make a compilation of people in the media defending eSports
then how you considered chess as a sports then?
The only reason this argument comes about is because of the stereotypes associated with gaming.
All we want is acceptance in mainstream media and right now the view is that gamers are lazy, unhygienic, live with their parents and just sit on a couch all day and play games. The reason we're trying to incorporate words like "Athlete" and "eSports" is to break down that wall.
If people can learn that playing video games at the professional level like LoL, Dota, CoD, Starcraft, etc. requires just as much dedication, focus, skill and intellectual ability as a traditional sport, we'll all be happy.
Damn just tell people that you can earn 1million dollars by winning a tournament and 50% of the worlds population will turn into gamers.
Daniel Teixeira You mean like how they announced Pewdiepie's $6 million+ salary for playing games on youtube and now everyone wants a piece?
For the lady that compared engineering to gaming, engineering is an intellectual career path; professional gaming emanates from "games". A lot like tennis, rugby, football, baseball and hockey... All games. Games create athletes.
Just because it didn't exist when you were growing up doesn't make it irrelevant. The only thing that you can be sure will end up irrelevant is a closed mind.
if what you typed were said on the show they all would all shut up but then again these dumb fucks don't know when to shut the fuck up.
*tries to explain*
dumb blonde: EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN
*continues to try to explain*
dumb bitch: *keeps interrupting* explain explain explain
*explains*
dumb bitch: *continues to interrupt* explain!111
She should have mentioned about how competitive these pro gamers are just like pro athletes
I love how no one ever pointed out that these gamers have reaction times on par if not better than most professional athletes
Is chess considered a sport? it is...enough said.
that's a professional blonde right there
What's the point of going into an interview and they interrupt you every nanosecond
They don't even let Rick finish his sentences.
WHERE ARE HER EYEBROWS
she's been shaving them off since the 80's. don't know why.
The best E-Sports organizations require their players to stay in good physical shape as well. In Korea they even have regulated diets players go on.
Flynn O Flenniken Basically is the physical aspect of gaming if you want to play at a professional level.
I mean, you can't simply just say, oh I can easily play a game for 8-10 hours straight, no it just doesn't work that way. People tend to get bored of gaming after about 4 hours straight, and yet these professional gamers do it all the time every DAY. What sports athlete trains for 8-10 hours EACH DAY? That's just overkill on the body.
Funny to see people always saying it's not a sport because there is no physical aspect to it. E-sport, fine. But it's still a sport.
2:55 "20 years from now we'll be biting our tongues"
truer words have never been spoken
Someone asked what separates a traditional athlete from an engineer pursuing a career.
Competition, advertising, professional orginazations.
To say gaming doesn't require intellect has to be ONE of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard.
herderder I mash buttons and win money. Wow you really think that works, try randomly moving pieces in chess and watch yourself lose hella quick.
No I was talking about them, I’m fully aware of the point you were making lol
@@mekk-knightsarecool222 I don't ever reply to TH-cam comments, my mistake.
It's an e-sport not a sport, and they are professional gamers not professional athletes.
Categorization.
It is still a sport
I second this, an e-sport derives the competition from regular sports but lacking the physical part. I still believe that pro gamers deserve the respect that regular athletes get, as games like Call of Duty and League of Legends take a huge amount of skill to play at the highest competitive level.
VChao90 Games that require physical activity
Chess, Poker, etc. They are all considered sports and require just as much, possibly less, physical activity than video games. Our world has changed so much since we defined what it meant to be an athlete. Definitions like these need to be changed.
Yes the is the categorization, with them being Gamers, the the US Government considers them Athletes, when working with Visas which was where the arguement came from.
They didnt even give a chance to explain properly, just straight up interrupting and rejecting.
That moment u realize Woophie Goldberg is playing Diablo
They were talking over each other too much, but basically the world see's Esports as a joke when it really is something that is going to be quite huge. Those people will someday realize what fools they just made of themselves by not listening to this guy speak.
black chick speaking about sport and shes got 200 kilos -_-
Whoopie is pretty cool though.
She plays Diablo tho
He's talking about the other lady there.
I personally can't wait for the Premiere Engineers League to dominate the scene.
"If you dont break a sweat, I dont consider it a sport" that made me think about humans.
Let the guy talk!!!
People forget that your mind is incapable of functioning to it's best if your body isn't kept in check too. Just like you might be the most fit person in the world and it doesn't matter if your brain is a train wreck. One cannot do without the other. Most professional gamers stick to the gym for a reason.
On a note about the video: how about they all shut the fuck up and let Rick talk? God damn, people like that piss me off. Right on denial without even listening to the end.
"You dont break a sweat"
Looks like someone was never in 5v1 situation
I think Snoopeh needs to have a word with the guy in the middle. (2:07)
2021 and Esports is booming... they must have changed their perception by now,,, or not?? Old people.. haha
I respect that gaming is an Esport, but do not believe that pro gamers should be called athletes, which, according to the merriam-webster dictionary is - a person who is trained in or good at sports, games, or exercises *that require physical skill and strength*
yea! fuck chess! even a 10yr old has the physical skill and strength to move a pawn around the board! *sarcasm
definitions can change, language is constantly evolving
take note of *sarcasm
I think this guy is right, I don't think the definition of athleticism should change, nor should we pretend that gamers are athletes or use the word athlete just to make it sound legitimate; it should garner respect in its own way.
Mashing buttons is a phyiscal skill, I'll have you know! Keepo
ask any gamers do they ever look at their keyboards while playing?. Thats skills, dedications, concentrations etc.
the difference between the engineer and a professional athlete is competition to be the best. Youll never see tournaments or competitions that pit engineers vs engineers.
Rick Fox even said, they're Digital Athletes which is a better description that they missed
My boy Rick!
The thing that I just facepalmed at is
"If you dont break a sweat, it's not a sport"
They call them athletes because they compete against each other at a professional level, head to head, team vs team.
Key word is compete.
I think they didn’t let him talk enough or explain the types of games and how competitive they can be like FPS games or moba games. This can also give people with disabilities a chance to be able to partake in an activity with everyone else and rise to the top.