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Biffa the water need to have a good level of flow to work properly with a hydro electric dam. That lake you tried to mess with was at a higher elevation than the rest of the water in the area and based off the water flow screen you showed it has a water source so it will always be producing water. If you make a river for that water to flow down and dam that off you can get some hydro power that way.
i think the first dam may have been running backwards
What's the average power use per Sim?
Turn up the budget and turn down the service fee for each of your services, the city balances out relatively quickly and makes each building much more effective, you also earn a lot more money and make people a lot more happy when you do
When it showed the 127 kw then changed to 2.5mg that is bigger mega watt and killo watt (MG>KW)
Biffa hydro needs 2 things: elevation difference and a stream or river to fill the upper reservoir. On a flat piece of lake you will have neither. And what you are calling a river is not really one.
It also takes time for the water to build up and produce the full amount of power
Furthermore from my experience hydro dam in CS2 is currently a bit buggy. I've created map (actually it is import of heightmap of my older map for CS1) with focus on possibility to build hydro dam with lot of power and still I am getting just a ridiculous small fraction (like 20MW) of originally expected power (hint said expected power will be over 600MW).
@17:38 is that a water source at the bottom right of the screen? Can that be exploited for a dam?
Could you use a sewage pipe as a source? Have that one side and the treatment plant the other side?
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Biffa! A few small tips maybe for the electricity and water :). small thing, you placed the 5 water pumps on the reservoir, with 2 water pumps you already are at 94% usage of the reservoir 25:03. With placing more than 2 you will drain the reservoir over time losing that water supply.
second thing: the power lines under the road max transport 80 MW so placing transformers across the city is key, not placing them all by the powerstations(then the bottleneck under the road stays the same. you have to guide the big powerlines to the transformers placed across your city. the transformer puts max of 80MW in the streets, so 1 big powerline can support 5 transformer stations.
Also for the import of power you still have, is there still am outside connection on the other side of the map? that maybe imports while you did not distribute power enough from the powerplants to the city? I am 99% sure this is the problem.
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Yeah, the big powerline needs to be distributed all over the cities with a lot of power station as a terminating point . This will reducing the small powerline bottleneck issues and equally distributing the power at the same time.
Yeah he should connect the old power transformer that he already has in the city with the new power stations so they will stop importing you are 100% right about the problem so make an edit in your comment so he read it, I don't think he will read this comment
Yeah, he never connected the power generation to his city. The power all goes straight out.😅
I literally said to myself "Biffa you wally, you're going to completely drain that underground water source."
Hey Biffa! Great video! But remember: with great power comes great responsibilitea!
Because your power production is all in one corner of the map, it's too much to push it all through the road grid. You should take 2 or 3 main power lines which are exporting power now and run them trough your whole map (along the highway for example). That way you can branch off those lines and give every borough/neighborhood their own transformer station. That should solve your 'power bottleneck' problem and stop your city from importing power from elsewhere.
I like how biffa turned into RCE just adding everything everywhere 😂😂😂
Me working in the energy industry watching you connecting cables and turning of power stations is quite a challenge :D
Ditto!
Biffa, I don't know if you've fixed it in the video (still only at 5:20) but you're *still importing electricity!*, you made no power lines connecting your nuclear power plant to the actual power grid, meaning that while you're exporting ~600 MW, you're still importing the ~200 needed for your city, causing additional costs!
I may or may not have fixed that after the fact! 😬😀
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines oh, that's a relief. Good going.
@@joelfilho2625 Was thinking about this also just now as i watch the video.
I believe that power centrals do not share their power production to the city through the road connections, they must send them to the high voltage power lines first and go through a transformer unit to the city, and since Biffa only connected them to outside, they are not sending any to the city needs, only exporting.
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines you haven't fixed yet in this video, maybe you did afterwards
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylinesYou didn't tho lol, you're still importing. You need to place transformers all across the city and bring the 400 cables to each one. The reason you're still importing is that the only transformers that you do have spread out are connected to the outside. Basically you still have a bottleneck, energy still isn't flowing to the further part of the city correctly, it's just being "covered up" by your import (which is why the problem disappeared when you turned those transformers back on)
Dont forget you can run powerlines underground and have them connect to power stations still, makes it much easier to route in your city.
Never thought I'd see the day when Biffa is mad with power
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HAHA! Good one!
20:32 Your new electricity plants output lines are not hooked to your city's power grid. They are all hooked to the outer city. This is why you are still importing.
AAAhh, the comeback of "Biffa does not get water flow".... I laughed so hard my ribs hurt.
Quick note on the first dam - at 14:46 you were at 2.32 MW which is significantly more than the 150 kW you got after putting deep water on both sides. I think you missed the difference in units 😉
(Obviously it's still a miniscule amount in the grand scheme of things, just something to keep in mind)
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Yeah, I Was thinking that when he was looking at the max capability in MW compared to the kW he was reading from them....
Power probably isn't getting to the bulk of the city because it doesn't run through highways. That's why you're still importing from off the map?
Maybe a high voltage line to the outskirts then tranform it for local use?
Fantastic idea.
Run the particle accelerator around the map. Lol
Had the import issue also and postet on your dicord about it in October.
You need to check, one part of your city is still not connected to your producing facilities, and just to the outside connection, that's why you still import a lot.
I got a few things to point out with your new power plant complex:
1. Can it be a district called BetterTea Power Complex? Or something kettle related, because all those powerplants make me think they are giant kettles brewing water for our tea! 🍵
2. Maybe include some transit options - a metro line so people can get there easily, and a cargo line so the plants can get access to fuel more easily than with lorries? Would ensure there is reduced traffic around the freeway intersection to the complex.
18:13 i think you can see the electricity flow through the cables in the electricity tab and then just click on the power lines :)
The older transformation station should be connected with a high voltage powerline from one of your powerplants. Then you would stop importing. Remember 400MW , so you can connect 5 transformers on 1 high voltage line
hey, first of all, I really like your videos!
Unfortunately, in this episode, the whole effort was not very successful from a financial point of view.
At the beginning of the episode you have a power balance of -$818,000 and at the end you have a balance of -$664,000. The maintanance costs of the power plants have eaten up almost all of your profit. This is because not every power plant generates a profit. For the detailed figures and a comparison of the power plants and all upgrades, I think there is a great guide on steam. I think it came out that the nuclear power plant, the geothermal power plant and solar are the best.
As for your import problem, you need to lay a direct power line from your power plants directly to your city. I think the street cables can only transport 40MW. Once the 40MW are used up, nothing will reach the rest of the city or bottlenecks will occur like in your case in this episode. So you need to rethink your entire power grid and maybe start from scratch. Since your city only consumes around 300MW, only one power line would be enough. This means you only need 4 transformer stations at sensible locations in the city, as these can convert 80MW. You can then easily export the surplus electricity.
I love your videos ❤
Your city will import power if you have no power storage because it can't stock what it makes anywhere for usage elsewhere. You also need to spread out your substations to allow the big power lines to output back into the city, cuz the underground lines can't handle the full load you're trying to send through them.
I design transmission lines for a living and I cringed at the placement of the transmission lines and substations, both overhead and underground. Transmission lines are generally designed in a ring having main transmission lines looping around the city and connecting to the substations.
@14:43 you actually had it solved by lowering one side, but you got confused between MW and KW. You had over 2MW which is more than the 150 odd KW.
"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely" ... Lord Acton. There are some real world lessons here about power density.
Remember Biffa you can change the power line type with page up down keys
street power lines can only transport so much power. you need high voltage lines from your plants to city.
Well, now I know why you were holding off on power production within the city. :D It was hilarious when you tried to place hydroelectric power stations right next to each other!
If you click the electricity info view, you can hover over power lines to see the flow!
Looking at how those outside connections max out 400MW reminds me on why the Sahara isn't plastered with solar panels. There would have to be some gargantuan power lines crossing the Mediterranean to get electricity to Europe.
Here in Houston, Texas we are designated as the energy provider for our state. Maybe you should set the energy as a district and name it Energy Corridor as that’s what we call it here. Our Energy Corridor is complimented with many offices to support those energy companies
-As many people pointed out already, for Hydro dams, flow is very important; while you can terraform to try to get something out of it, I personally look for orange waterflow arrows to place dams, else I skip since white flow lines doesn't produce enough electricity.
-Also, you still import electricity because you haven't connected any power plants to the main line importing/feeding your city hubs, nor built sub stations to efficiently dispatch what you produce across your city (to avoid bottlenecks)
-Finally, running lines underground is a great way to avoid having to move everything around (and visual mess), even more so if the end goal is to max your power output to export; that's a lot of clutter if you run them on ground level.
(But I really enjoyed the episode :) )
Finally Biffa builds power in Kettlebridge. Hip hip Hooray!🎉
Biffa needs to learn how power distribution works and come back with a how to distribute power video for us lol.
For Hydro, could create a water source that starts at elevation and comes down a bit into a reservoir with the dam at the front, sitting at elevation with a stream at the foot of the dam flowing away
I've been experimenting myself with the dam. Outside of seweage, I dont think there is a way to create a higher point of water source than what is pre-made on the map. If you know of a way, please share it. Only problem with the sewage is that there is no real way to effectively clean it before it hits the main waterway.
I know other people have made comments to this effect, but with the power requirements of your city (~350MW), you could feasibly supply enough power from just the nuclear power plant. As other people have pointed out, nearly none of your power is actually connected to your city grid. You can supply about 4 substations with only 1, full 400MW high voltage power line, so it would be better to have one or two high power lines running from your power corner either along the outskirts or along the highway, and then branching off into separate substations. That would negate your need to import electricity from the other side of the city, fully power your city itself, AND still be exporting in the multi-thousands of MW and making millions. I also had a laugh at the hydroelectric attempts. Great video Biffa!
for the dam, on a flat map it is hard, so make a huge hole on land, all the way down, then place the dam and make a river flow into the hole via the dam. you had the right idea with that mountain you were making, just basically need to lower the whole thing so the water level rises.
i suggest looking more into the service costs vs production of the individual types, im not entirely sure of specifics but iirc coal costs a good bit more than what is produced, even if completely sold. geothermal with perfect coverage can definitely make more than its operating costs, iirc i was getting $700K out of it with $300K monthly so roughly $400K net profit. im wonder which type ends up actually being the most profitable, potentially dams in an ideal scenario
I think my favorite thing about Biffa's videos remains to be the random tea sips.
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet.
You can run the power lines underground at different depths and cross them as you wish. You can also run them under water and off the grid to external power. Figured that out the hard way. One of the annoyances I've found with dams is that you can produce 16 GW of power but you only get 2x400MW connections.
This place could be named : Power Gulch !!
Hello, thx for the vid, but as usual, you forget to add to this locations some restaurants and bars and shop and food trucks for the workers.
I'm thinking of a small town too. Maybe on this smal island on the right.
Solar panel store electricity to supply during night. Not for storage.😂
Kettlebridge should be a space travel hub .
Hey Biffa, you can put the high voltage power lines in the ground so you can increase the amount of space to build more power plants to make even more profits.
By having such a huge amount of electritity, you have to find a way how to use it) Next time we will see a field of colaiders?😂😂
I really impressed with details of electricity in this game. I think u should install a proper distribution powerline each town. nice video always😉
Biffa I think you've gone mad. This episode was like watching your sanity decline as time went on. I think you have a power export problem!
Edit: Just got to the end part, if it isn't the consequences of your actions! lol
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you need a high voltage powerline from the one side of the city to the other and the transformer stations online
Hey Biffa, with both the high and low voltage power lines, you can page up to build lines that will hold even higher amounts of power!
Really? I thought it was just visual changes 🤔
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines In CS1 I think it was just visual, but to my understanding, in CS2, it actually affects the capacity!
it is still a visual only change@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines
29:02 I just had an instant thought, what if your building all these power plants along the border of your city and another city, but what you can’t see is all the suburbs right on the other side of that border. Those poor people in the next city over hahaha 🤣
Oh man!! I had no idea you could just run power lines anywhere to the edge of the map. Thanks Biffa!
If you are thinking about naming this area, keeping in mind the tea theme relation, and energy, surely you should call that area Caffeine Point?
Probably too late to point out, but one thing I've experienced and have seen some others point out is that it's actually cheaper and much easier to import all water & sewage needs vs having your own water & sewage infrastructure. When I build nuclear power plants I always set them up on outside connections.
Great idea!
That is a 2 reactor nuclear power plant outputting 878MW, while irl we have single reactors able to output 1000 to 1600MW... would have been cool to have multiple nuclear power plants in the game, small one ~400MW, medium ~800MW and large ~1600MW.
Also nuclear power plants are usually build """modularly"""" so they could use the upgrade feature to add new reactors to the same plant
Kettlebridge has now become a literal powerhouse.
The street lined trees in Leafy turning yellow are lovely!
you are still drawing 200MW on the other side of the city. If you recall you maxed out the draw on the other side and that was when you put in the tiny little run near the airport to balance out the power draw across the city.
Like the power lines, I believe the roads have a power limit. You need to either spread out your power sources, or lay down many more lines and roads to the main city to spread out the load.
They do yes 👍
Biffa! I think you should add specialized coal industry, you'll reduce import costs of coal for the power stations
Maybe its the electrician in me, but it made me scream when Biffa asked "why we are not using are own power" when he only hooked it up the outside. xD
I normally import power until I can build a geothermal or nuclear powerplant. Never thought to build all the powerplants. Excessive, but entertaining.
Most of the city is still using imported electricity rather than from the power plants. You need to connect the high voltage lines from the power plants to transformers around the city.
that lake in the mountain you put the really tall dam in (you did backwards) at 17:00, you could cut a path down to the main river and put a dam on that and it should hold up making a good bit of power.
Exporting electricity should make money, but i think CO need to nerf it a bit. There should not be unlimited demand to your outside connections. It should be capped seperately to each outside connection. So north connection wants 200mw and east wants 50mw and south wants 0mw maybe. Whatever the numbers m may be, you get the idea. That way you can sell of your excess without it being rediculous. It just seems a little too OP at the moment.
Also, you need to place lots of transformers around your city and connect them to your plants with large power lines. the small lines only take 80mw. A simple example would be... If a single small line (80mw limit) is trying to supply a suburb that demands 200mw then that suburb will not get enough power. So connect a transformer up to that suburb and use the big lines (400mw) to give it power and you can send in enough. Your city is choking because you don't have enough transformers.power is bottle necking trying to get to the other side. Maybe run done large cables under you expressways and into some transformers along the way.
Sorry if i didn't explain very well. It would be easier with diagrams.
not far into vid sittin with cuppa like "underground biffa - go underground" ... later in vid "compleatly forgot about that"
wait did biffa hear me?
Hey, I might be wrong, but I think you can put your high voltage power lines also under ground😊 so no running out of space🥳
Am I missing something? I thought you can click on the Pylons to see how much power they're running.
So, the power stations have a power production limit, and that is based on it's efficiency... which changes +/- a bit. Each Plant is connected to the road for power, water, and sewage. The roads (and small power poles) can ONLY carry Low Voltage, and only so much of it (each road has its limits in their respective tooltip). It's usually enough to power your city, as long as you don't have bottlenecks. Meaning a few or more road connections to different points of the city. The High Voltage Pylons only carry power to your outside connections, or to a Substation which makes it Low Voltage for the cities use. This is why you can be exporting all that electricity and still be importing it elsewhere. Although the Pylons can carry 400MW, I think each outside connection can carry more, or less, (I don't remember) but I'm sure it's not the same 400MW. Don't quote me on that, I could be wrong... LMK if you please!
The Dam is a tricky one. I wish they showed a better view when placing it, being as it costs so much to put down, then move when you put it in backwards... like half of the ones Biffa placed in the lake area. I believe the power connects to the backside, and there are little structures opposite them on the front side. The 2 square looking things in the middle, I believe is the Overflow structure of the Dam. The little circles on the one side, is where the water enters the Dam towards the turbines inside, which produce the electricity. The water has to be moving, like a River, and it has to be up to at least those inlet circles to start producing electricity. I don't know if you can exploit them the same as we did in CS1 by dropping the ground level in front. I think it still might work, only because water falling further down does create more electricity (irl). So not 100% if the exploit works the same or not. The Dam will actually back the water up behind it, raising the water level (as dams do) to it's overflow, and the water level in front will naturally drop as the dam gets to work.
Also, I noticed with the Geothermal Plant, you don't need it to straddle the groundwater spot. There is one spot in the plant that connects to the underground deposits, and you can see [in the tooltip] as you move it around. It tells you how much, if any, power it will be able to produce as you hover it around the deposit. This makes it able to put two in close proximity using the same underground water. You only then need to keep an eye on they don't choke each other like the water Facilities do.
Oh wow! That was soooo funny! We've got too much electricity flowing through here so I'll turn off the substations! That's like that advert where the wombat pulls out the dripping pipe so that there's no more dripping pipe! That is a beast of a power centre though! Ooft!
But seriously, that "import" is because you're not running your high voltage lines from the new Power Farm into the majority of Kettlebridge. Run some high voltage cables around to the far side and hook in substations and everything will be catered for. It'll help with the bottlenecking too. Oh, you can see the flow from the lecky info view (can't remember if you sussed that bit so sorry if eggs are being sucked)
Time for me to watch the video a 3rd time. I wasn’t awake enough the first two to remember much. But now I slept so I will be enjoying the video
you have to connect powerplants with your city using high voltage power line and distribute it to your transformers because your low voltage grid that you have under roads can only take 80MW i think so that's why you're still importing power from the outside
if you wanna see the electricity flow on the cables you need to hover you mouse over them when the electricity info panel is open(through info panel not the bar)
21:28 nice edit
Turn up the budget and turn down the service fee for each of your services, the city balances out relatively quickly and makes each building much more effective, you also earn a lot more money and make people a lot more happy when you do
Build idea: Really spice things up with a Secret Police base. Central Intelligence Bureau, Server Farm, Satellite uplink, a prison, all in a highly secured exclave surrounded by regular city.
If you didn’t know a way to organize power lines is by pushing page down, and going underground with the cables.
You need at least 3 more transformers to reduce your electricity from high voltage to low, which is why you're still importing 200mw.
Thats a good little work around when your struggling for money, if you have the power plants unlocked. Neat idea.
If you can scatter thte powerplants to other locations keeping the clean ones near the population or where the wind direction doesn't favor it with air pollution and to the other ends of the map. Then it will be easier to manage the grid load and import will be reduced by providing separate powerlines and grid stations to individual areas from your powerplants.
Biffa to get rid of the import of electricity I think you may need to cut all incoming connections from neighbouring cities and place a substation down near a power station and connect the power station to the substation. I'm sure that's how it works.
In late game i see power grid is an issue to deal with! I see you also experienced the tax income bug, i don't know exactly why, i see income of 72 million from taxes at 1:23 , more or less same as mine is a quite little city, there is something wrong, no balance at all. Thanks for your videos Biffa
Hi biffa huge fan hope you keep it up and more city videos!!
Thanks! Will do! 😀
You need to hook up your HV lines to the city grid. You're only exporting the power you're making.
I have no clue, but maybe the imported power is because you still have the transformer stations around the city.
the low voltage cables can not handle all the power of the power plants into the city, that is why the city lost power when you deactivated the transformers.
The transformers are not connected to the power plants, that is why you are still importing power.
Just draw some high voltage power lines from the power plants into all the transformers around the city.
also, i think you make so much from exporting power that you can make it free for your city and still make a profit on power.
He would actually make way more money from the rest of the city if he turned the service fee off as all businesses get efficiency increases from having no service fees. That goes for the other service fees as well.
u can tell the power the lines have on them by opening up your layer menu and then click power then hover ur mouse over the lines
You're still importing power because despite producing all of that power, you're only sending a tiny fraction into the city due to the bottleneck of the buried power lines under the roads. If you run high power lines around the city and strategically place transformers to balance the load, you will reduce the need to import.
I bet someone has comment this already but you need to run high voltage lines to your main city from Powerland and the use transformers.
In my Archipelago city, I had power bottlenecks between my islands. I ran high voltage between the island and connected the low power side to a transformer. Problem solved.
If you only connect the sewage outlet to a water intake it will pour out water 16:15
I know it needed to be done to make space for the power station but you removing all those trees hurt my soul 😭 please can you plant more and perhaps make a forest national park to make up for it? /nf xx
Should have titled this "Biffa Goes Power Mad!!" 😋
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I think hydro dams need some tweaking in the game. I made a massive dam on the mountain map that created a massive lake-still only get about 400-600 mw when it says it should get 1800mw and I have no idea how to make it go up.
You can put the pylon cables underground for neatness Biffa
I think for the hydro electric to work you need to create a sloped river, so that the water flows down and away from the wall picking up speed with gravity...
go big or go home 😂 was a fun video, i knew immediately you will have problems with the transformers 😂, also put a few comerciale buildings in, is massive industrial estate and workers will have a place to go and buy food, you have thousands working there, i would bring one or two subway stations there to help with the masstransit and a bus line.
I would have liked to have seen a windfarm as well, especially along side the solar.
Looks like you discovered the Industry tax bug that cropped up with the pre-holiday patch
and ya like everyone elce was saying u gotta connect your big transmission lines that are near your powerplants to all your transformers substations around the whole city
You're still importing 200MW because all that you're generating is going straight out of the map, you dont have it connected to your own grid with enough capacity cables.
BIFFA ooohhh i got a challenger for you my friend how and it not be just a challenge it could be a series build a ecumenopoleis and try to find the perfect build / balance and just in case you dont know the concept its a planet wide city youll need all the tiles
hope you like the ideal
If yhe game ran better at cities that size it would be a great idea, but at the moment...
BIffa maybe you should Put the points on The Emergy shelters and so
Disasters Will come and go
Name the electric era electro land
I just can't get over all the "Not enough customer icons" lol
I don't understand why you're limited to only one nuclear power plant. It doesn't make sense realistically given that you have the capital, resources, manpower and reasons for more.