Hello there! I can't believe we've made it through another amazing movie series. I just wanted to thank each of you for coming along with me on this wild ride. All the trivia, debates and kind comments have made it truly memorable and so much fun. Interacting with you all is always the best part for me. I've truly enjoyed the wonderful world of Harry Potter and look forward to what's next. On we go to the next series! ❤ Jen
Thank you!!! It was so nice to revisit this series with fresh eyes. I love your thoughts and reactions. I'm so happy you enjoyed the series. It holds a special place in my heart and always will.
In the books Dumbledore tried to use the ring to bring back his sister before destroying the horcrux, and in doing so released a curse. Snape slowed it down considerably with a counter-curse but he was dying anyways, so he told Snape to kill him so Voldemort would trust him completely. Really enjoyed your reactions!
I mean he did that in movies as well but in the background. Also we don't really know, if it was because he wanted to see her. We don't know either, if it was his own will to do so or just Horcrux playing on his desires and him getting stupidly tempted. He could have easily taken down the curse - then put it on/use it. He would probably also get attacked by Tommy, but it wouldn't be as devastating. Also we could assume that he did in fact use it. Which would work perfectly with the history of the Stone - pushing everyone to unliving themselves (that also includes Harry who only after using it - was perfectly ready to sacrifice himself).
@Leonardo Santuario Oh yeah I remember. There was a whole chapter in the 5th book where all the characters are having an orgy. That is why i prefer the books
My favorite little detail about Snape is that when McGonagall attacks him, he deflects all of her attacks into the Death Eaters behind him. Even when his the bad guy, he’s a good guy.
Didn't happen like that in book. Amicus and Alecto were already knocked out and McGonagall didn't fight alone, Sprout and Flitwick also attacked him and Snape jumped out the window and flew away. And it didn't happen in front of everyone. Only Harry and Luna were there.
Another example: Snape kills Hedwig the owl - when the death eaters attack the several Harrys, who are trying to escape. It is horrible, but the reason is: 1. Snape realized, whom the real Harry was, because of the owl. If he knew - others could figure it out as well. 2. He had to appeare as if fighting the Order and Harry, without harming any of them. To kill poor Hedwig was showing that he tried to kill perfectly to the other death eaters.
@@Burstify I mean, he was at one point. Dude was a death eater until Lily was in danger. I bet if it was Neville Voldemort suspected and went after him and his parents Snape would have not stopped being a death eater.
@@amysilknitter8928 yep. Clearly these people didn't read the books. The whole point of Snape Character is that he's a morally grey character. Not someone whose 'good' or 'bad;.
In the book Harry repairs his old wand with the elder wand and then puts it back in Dumbledore's tomb where it's magic will be broken if Harry dies a natural death.
I dont believe that the magic will ever broken. Imagine if person a has the wand and person b beats person a in a duel. The wand now answers to person b I think at this moment the wand magic will reactivate for person b. That said, if someone beats person b that wand will belong to someone else.
Not it’s magic but it’s bloody History that wants the new owner to win it from the previous owner. That caused wizards to kill to get ownership of the wand. He placed the wand to Dumbledore’s Grave to conceal it. No one knew about it. If Harry would die from natural cause (ageing) the chain of killings would be broken. The wand would continue to be the most powerful wand ever made. But no one could know! If if they knew about the wand, no one could think to search in Dumbledore’s grave to find it.
No one but Harry, Ron, Hermione, and the Hogwarts headmaster portraits know where the Elder Wand is. Voldemort and the trio were the only living people who knew about the Horcruxes. As long as they keep their secret to the grave, the Elder Wand remains buried. I think they had Harry break the Elder Wand in the film because they wanted it to be clear that the HP storyline was definitely over. It would not surprise me at all if the trio approached JKR and begged her to allow it. Those actors gave up their childhood to make these films, and they were DONE.
When Narcissa Malfoy leans down and asks Harry if Draco is still alive, Harry nods and it's implied that she knows that Harry saved him. So to repay him, she lies to Voldemort saying he is dead.
Upvoting so Holden sees this because this is how I understand it as well, Harry protected Draco so Narcissa protected him in return. A mothers love saved Harry from Voldemort twice.
I don’t remember it as her realizing Harry saved Draco, but with Draco being alive, she knows her best chance at keeping her family alive is for Harry to win. Harry surviving two killing curses at the hands of the most powerful wizard ever is as good of a sign that Voldemort cannot win as any other
I just checked the book and Narcissa had no idea Harry saved Draco. She only cared about getting Draco back and knew Harry was her only chance. From Deathly Hallows Chapter 36 Pages 382-383: "Is Draco alive? Is he in the castle?" "Yes," he breathed back. "He is dead!" Narcissa Malfoy called to the watchers. Narcissa knew that the only way she would be permitted to enter Hogwarts, and find her son, was as part of the conquering army. She no longer cared whether Voldemort won.
@@HypocritesExposd gotcha. Yeah it’s been a minute since Ive read the book so even when I was writing the comment I was like, did she know? But yeah the idea is still the same. It’s a really cool moment.
Narcissa for the most, never cared to be a Death Eater. Her concern for Draco's safety was more important to her, and that allowed her to openly lie to Voldermot. Her bravery in that moment was almost on the same level as Snapes.
Voldemort never understood love , so never got the real of Snape, narcissa and Harry. Othervise it is not easy to stand aginst the master of dark arts with lying whether it was lying dead , or telling lies flagrantly to him. Beause voledemort was born of love potion he never understood love and other related things.
“I’ve deceived one of the greatest wizards of all time.” - Snape as Bellatrix and others would assume he meant Dumbledore when he really meant voldomort. I love that line from the 6th movie
Wow so when he said that, he actually meant Voldemort? All these years I thought he was talking about Dumbledore. I've only ever watched the films and only recently started the books.
@@RickyBaxt3r Yeah it's understandable to think that - we're meant to believe he's talking about Dumbledore just like he's leading the other Death Eaters to believe the same thing. The whole sixth movie is leading us to conclude Snape is a bad guy, but what we learn in this movie is that Snape never actually deceived Dumbledore so it allows you to reassess what he said back then. It could have just been a lie, but when you think about it he's not really lying because he _has_ deceived one of the greatest wizards of all time, just not the one we thought he meant in the sixth movie. I like the detail of saying *_"one of_* the greatest wizards" because if he is talking about Voldemort then this wording allows room for Dumbledore to be even better than Voldemort in Snape's opinion.
@@sam_c95 He couldn't have said "deceived **the** greatest wizard", or Bellatrix would have wondered, 'you deceived our master?! What do you mean?' But acknowledging that Dumbledore is **a** great wizard is fine.
The part where Ginny screams when Voldemort announces Harry dead is touching, no doubt. But in the book its McGonagal who let's out a gut wrenching scream, showing just how much of an impact Harry's death has on everyone. Ginny screaming is the obvious choice - Harry's the man she loves. McGonagal screaming is heart breaking.
It always hit me hard as well. McGonagall was always my favorite adult in the story. Everyone always talks about how Molly practically adopted Harry. So did McGonagall. She's not the type of person to show favorites but she does in very specific situations show that she cares for Harry as more than a regular student. As a teacher's kid, this is how a lot of parents treat there kids at school. Especially if they are directly their teacher. Sometimes the are even more strict and harsh to their kids. So McGonagall screaming always hit me. This is also the woman that Harry legitimately used a unforgivable curse for. Just because a person insulted and spat at her. Don't mess with Harry's mother figures
@@britlitsch6571 I always loved their relationship. One of my favorite moments is, when in the books, Harry goes to McGonagall and asks her if she could sign the paper for Hogsmeet for him. I would never consider asking something like that my homeroom teacher. He clearly sees her as very, very close. Something like a mother. He spends most of his time in Hogwarts, as much as he can, so McGonagall is most of the time his legal guardian. She is the exact opposite of Petunia or the Dursleys in general. They are loud, noisy. They give everything to Dudley and treat him like an angel. They are unfair and full of bitterness and hate. McGonagall is calm, soft. She is strict, but she raises her students with fairness and tries to teach the children something. She is there when the children needs her and she listens. She truly cares for them and I think Harry always geeked the big difference between the two. McGonagall is the one who stands up for him, but also gives him fair punishments if needed so, just as good parent should. One could say Hagrid was also kind of a motherfigur for Harry, but I would say McGonagall and Molly would beat Hagrid.
@@britlitsch6571 Yeah I was about to mention that "spit on" situation but you did it for me. Thanks for that BTW. I mean she WAS the one who bought harry his first broom too. As a reward for impressing her in flight training. Obviously she wanted Harry to have every possible advantage , but the gesture was very appreciated. And touching.
Fun fact: in the first film Snape asks Harry “ What would I get if I added powdered root of asphodel to an infusion of wormwood?” According to Victorian Flower Language, asphodel is a type of lily meaning ‘My regrets follow you to the grave’ and wormwood means ‘absence’ and also typically symbolised bitter sorrow. If you combined that, it meant ‘I bitterly regret Lily’s death’.... wormwood is said to also be used for protection so it could be "on Lily's grave I will protect you" either way Now every time I watch HP I tear up at that line.... when I first watched it I thought Snape was just being a douche knowing full well harry wouldn't know the answers but turns out nope. He was basically telling Harry he cared about his mother (yes I know harry wouldn't have known either way but it was something Snape needed to say for his own sake)
"McGonnegal fired first", not only that, but I think Snape only did defensive maneuvers and knocked out the Carrow twins (death eaters behind him). You could see a hurt look on his face when she steps in. Just great acting.
@@tomn6800 And Snape picking up the Carrow's wands before he flies away. (He is the only wizard besides Valdemort seen flying/able to fly). Edit: Per the Books.
@@LindaRobbinsStraitfever can’t Bellatrix, Lucius and other death eaters fly using that smoke cloud thing? They used that in Order of the Phoenix and Half Blood Prince when they destroyed that bridge in London.
@@quesoturtle739 ya snape was on dumbledore/voldemorts level and could fly without a broom. the movies let everyone do it almost lol order of the phoenix had some white shit and all the deatheaters could do the black smoke stuff. Flying without a broom was special, gives less screen time to moving when you give everyone flying lol Casting spells without saying whatever magic words was also not something everyone could just do, just not on the level of unaided flight.
In Dumbledore's defence, he knew that Harry wouldn't die. This is something that wasn't shown in the movies but in "The Goblet of Fire" after facing Voldemort, Harry tells Dumbledore that Voldemort used his (Harry's) blood to obtain his new body. Then, and I quote: "For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore’s eyes". That look of triumph is explained in that King Cross dream/vision/limbo were Dumbledore explains that since Voldemort used Harry's blood, which had his mother's protection in it, it made it impossible for Voldemort to kill Harry.
To add to this, what Voldemort killed that night in the forest, was his own horcrux within Harry. That was the little dying gross creature you saw in the king's cross limbo that Dumbledore said was nothing anyone could help.
@@Kramer0083 if you pick apart the series it really starts to fall apart. The deathly hallows were essentially worthless in the long run. Harry doesn't even use the invisibility cloak, despite it being super useful. He drops the resurrection stone in the woods and leaves it there for some Smeagle type character to probably find, and the elder wand gets snapped in half and thrown into a ravine. The whole wand allegiance thing is kind of a mess and the love protection thing is just nonsense, I mean shouldn't everybody have love protection as long as they have family who love them? All that said I still really enjoy this series.
@@Kramer0083 The"master of death" thing is just a story for kids. The deathly hallows are just very powerful objects created by the brothers of the tail. But nobody can be prevented from death. If a random deatheater had killed Harry he would have die, master of death or not. That’s one the many mistakes Voldemort did: wanting to kill Harry himself.
Jen during Sorcerer’s Stone: “I don’t trust Marilyn Manson.” Jen now: “I knew Snape was good the whole time! I love his character.” So NOW she puts some respect on his name. Alan Rickman truly was a legendary actor.
I teared up at the scene of Snape dying, not just because it was Snape but because of Alan himself having since passed..he really portrayed Snape really well..
Snape Snape was who deserve meet with Harry when he use this trash stone and speak for awhile not parents - Harry barely knew mom and dad ( only by others words) not Lupin and even not Sirius - they have nothing to talk with only Snape deserve it
@@saquib9148 , Never read the books. Only going by what they chose to put in the films, and in the films Neville says he must find Luna because he was 'mad for her'.
@@Burstify In the movies yes. There's a deleted scene about it. In the books they were not taken to the dungeons but Minerva ordered that Slytherin house be the first to evacuate through room of requirement and tunnel connecting it with hogs head.
@@stefan4159 I don't think it is mentioned that any specific slytherin student fights against him. McGonagall allowed only students that are 17years old to stay if they wish. Since rest are underaged they had to leave (except Colin Creevey who snuck back in and died, although he was a Gryffindor). Crabe and Goyle stayed in the battle but they attacked Harry and Crabbe even died to his own spell (Fiendfyre). Malfoy and Goyle were saved by Harry and Ron and at that point i don't think Malfoy was fighting against anyone. But he also was no longer a student, he entered the battle with rest of Voldemorts forces. Other Slytherins that were not fighting with Voldemort but were in the battle were Lucius and Narcissa who were just running around looking for Draco, and Professor Slughorn, who wasn't just against Voldemorts forces but he was actually fighting Voldemort himself along with Kingsley and McGonagall.
When they're in the astronomy tower and Dumbledore begs Snape "Please.", really has a different meaning when you know that it was set up. In order for Dumbledore to save Draco from having his soul ripped apart, Snape had to kill Dumbledore.
It was more of euthanasia, if you think about it. Dumblydorr and Snape knew the curse was terminal, but certain events had to be in place for his death to work strategically. The ultimate wizard’s chess Dumblydorr played.
@@agresticumbra the please was to protect draco from being a murderer. he could have killed himself at any moment, didn't really need euthanasia but was also dedicating as much time as he could to getting things prepared for voldemorts defeat. like op said, he didn't want that child to be forced to kill him.
@@mcdotterson4103 No, it was because Snape did not want to do it, you can see them arguing before Dumbledore and Harry leaves for the cave and Snape says he does not want to do this anymore, meaning this whole double agent thing. Therefor the "please"
RE: Wizards turning into ghosts “Wizards can leave an imprint of themselves upon the earth, to walk palely where their living selves once trod,” said Nick miserably. “But very few wizards choose that path.” “I was afraid of death,” said Nick softly. “I chose to remain behind. I sometimes wonder whether I oughtn’t to have… well, that is neither here nor there… in fact, I am neither here nor there…” He gave a small sad chuckle. “I know nothing of the secrets of death, Harry, for I chose my feeble imitation of life instead.”
Any wizard can choose to return from that "Train Station" where Harry talked to Dumbledore, but only Harry could return normal and not as a ghost because he was the master of Death. But most Wizards don't choose to go this route, because it will never help your deepest desires and only leaves a fraction of your soul on earth, unable to go on
I cried so bad when they had that conversation. Because harry asked nick that question cause he's wondering if sirius is a ghost out there. My heart just shattered for him.
The final duel between Harry and Voldemort was also different in the books. They never fought all over the castle, Voldemort never bitch smacks Harry, and they dont duel outside alone. In the books they duel in the great hall (where the kids usually eat) in front of all of the other Hogwarts teachers and students. When Voldemort dies, he just falls to the floor dead. He does not turn to ash and fade away. He dies like a human, the ultimate slap in his face, since he believed he was more than human.
IMO the best line in the entire series is something like the curse rebounded on Voldemort and Tom riddle hit the floor. When he died he was just Tom again.
Yep, I preferred the book duel more for sure. The part that bothers me in the movie is when Harry pulls him off the ledge in an embrace. Just a bit too goofy for me. lol
Yup. Ironically, my favorite change from book to movies and least favorite are back to back. My least favorite is the final battle, that was so incredibly stupid (even if it looked good). Voldemort dying alone like a God goes against the entire meaning of his fall. Voldemort's solidarity was his comfort he pushed the boundaries of dark magic for the purposes of immortality further than anyone else to the point where he didnt even look human and saw himself above everyone else as he believed he was immortal. Yet despite all this, "Tom Riddle hit the ground with a mundane finality. Voldemort was dead, killed by his own rebounding killing curse and the Elder Wand soared high to hand of the master it would not kill." Tom Riddle died a human in the Great Hall to the Chosen One in front of everyone to see. Despite all his efforts to push himself to being immortal, at the end of the day, he is nothing but another wizard and everyone saw this. Yet in the move they completely go against this by him dying like an immortal and he combusts in the solidarity he always preferred. My favorite change is Harry snapping the wand, it just makes a lot more sense. I get what he was trying to do by placing it in Dumbledore's Grave, and the symbolism of a natural death like Ignotus Peverell, but if somebody disarmed him in the future, they could then open Dumbledore's tomb, take the wand and be its true master. Snapping it just makes a ton more sense.
I thought about that if I was in Harry’s shoes I would be trying not to blink staring into his eyes platonically as he dies since I have to make that clear for the comment s
I loved the sheer disappointment on Holden's face when she told him what the comments said about Snape summoning the patronus last movie. Get it together peeps, we all know you know everything, but could you... just stay silent for more then 5 minutes?
Agreed but I would also say Holden smirking at the camera about Snape being evil or not in an earlier movie is hinting at spoilers about his character too. I also didn’t know she reads the comments herself 😬
Hagrid being captured and being made to carry Harry’s body while sobbing always breaks my heart, both in the films and the books. You know how much he loves Harry and how much this must have broken him.
There is a deleted scene of the Dursley’s leaving their house that’s very emotional. Petunia Dursley has a conversation with Harry saying how he didn’t just lose a mother that night but she also lost a sister, which was a very rare glimpse showing that she really did love her sister deep down. In the books or something they also talk about the reason why she truly “acted” like she hated Lily was because she wanted to go to Hogwarts and be a witch but was denied and it caused her to be depressed and resent her sister. Also in that deleted scene Vernon makes a comment about Harry being worthless or something and Dudley stares at Vernon and then walks up to Harry and says that he doesn’t think Harry is worthless and hopes he stays safe. This was because he finally cares about Harry after he saved his life from the dementors and realized just how dangerous Harry’s life actually is.
The Vernon scene was actually Harry saying it about himself. Dudley asked why Harry wasn't going with him, and Vernon tells Duddykins that Harry doesn't want to go. Harry agrees, and then tells him he's a waste of space
Alan Rickman's performance as Snape holding the lifeless Lilly Potter, the woman he loved with his whole heart, was soooo damn good. The man was a true talent.
Also Fred’s death in the books was so heartbreaking, and it’s kind of breezed over in the movie. The books had so many more nuances that elevate the twins but the movies only captured parts of this
BOOK SPOILER ALERT Especially when Percy just came back. I know it was kinda necessary for time constraints but I love the conflict between the Weasley family, only for tragedy to happen
Apparently one of the many scenes to be cut off, but this one because the actor reaction was too much heartbreak (irl twins after all) and didn't fit the fuzziness of the moment from Harry pov
Each wand has its own personality hence “The wand chooses the wizard”. Any wizard can use any wand for the most part but only a wand that is loyal to them will produce the best magic. Normal wands rarely change their allegiance, Draco’s going to Harry was a rare exception. The Elder wand specifically changes its allegiance whenever a wizard bests its previous owner, this is unique to that wand. Normally a wizard would not “lose” their wand by simply being disarmed.
I always kind of thought that when Ollivander said that "I sense its allegiance has changed" about Draco's wand, that maybe that was also a hint that Draco himself is also not loyal to Voldemort and potentially more loyal to Harry at this point. I mean thats just my own meaning from it, it probably wasnt intended.
@@simmerplayer2747 I thought this as well, but i think it serves a dual purpose in that regard. Yes, Draco is conflicted about what to do but at the same time he was then the rightful owner of the Elder Wand. If the wand truly is its own sentient thing, I would assume that once it knows its owner has another wand (and it being the Elder Wand) it wouldnt be as loyal to that owner afterwards.
@@charliecranston5 One issue with that tho is that by the time Ollivander read Draco's wand, Harry had already disarmed Draco and the Elder Wand's allegiance had changed to Harry. So Draco wasnt the owner of the Elder Wand at that point in any way, he had never physically possessed the elder wand to begin with and he was no longer the rightful owner of it either.
There's a deleted scene which is basically a proper redemption scene for Draco. When Neville is giving the speech, as soon as Harry wakes up, Draco runs and gives Harry his wand which is also the reason why the Malfoy family runs away after Harry wakes up.
yeah people bring this up way too damn much. Not everyone deserves to be redeemed, and not everyone NEEDS to be redeemed. THAT'S the point of Draco's character. It's an important lesson to teach.
When Alan Rickman was cast as Snape, the author told him about his love for Lily. So his approach towards Snape’s character was always with this info in mind.
@@scott4538 *Allan Rickman himself always denied knowing anything about Snape's feelings for Lilly.* According to him all Rowling told him was that there was more to Snape than you'd think, hinting that Snape wasn't only "the bad guy". That was just enough for him to want to play Snape, because hi was sick of playing the bad guy in movies by then. His dream was to play a great romantic character. So boy, did he get his dying wish! Just not the way he'd expected.
@@Keyboardje Unpopular opinion of mine: Alan Rickmans greatest romantic character role was Colonel Brandon in Sense and Sensibility. The moment, when Marianne is ill and he is standing outside her room and Elinor comes out of the room and he says: "Give me some occupation or I shall run mad." -gives me goosebumps everytime I watch. And then their interactions, when she is recovered. This is a leading romantic role - In Harry Potter he is playing a nasty teacher and a double agent. Yes Snapes true allegiance is with Harry, because of Lily, but Alan Rickman has not really interactions with the actress playing Lily - the romantic moments in Snapes childhood are all played by child actors (who are adorable by the way). Snape was one of his greatest roles still.
One brilliant part was Harry using the name Tom. It's a great moment that shows Harry doesn't fear him anymore and is addressing him as the vulnerable human that he is, not the scary evil lord that he wanted people to see him as.
Yea, Dumbledore always called him Tom, which annoyed Voldemort and he felt disrespected, because Dumbledore should'Ve used his "new" name. So in Harry doing that, that must've pissed him off very much :D
@@paulcurran4786 With a small number of wizards/witches, and many families preferring inbreeding to mingling with Muggles, isn't it a given that almost all of them are related to each other at this point?
@@gf1917 both are half-blood though....them being from the same family line, directly related to the 3 Peverell brothers isnt something ever mentioned in the movies....worth people who haven't read, or have no intention of reading the books knowing IMO
Jenn: How Potter survived? Holden: Resurrection stone got him back One of the main keypoints of the resurrection stone being: It doesn't bring anyone back to life And that is why you probably might want to read the books some time. P.S. It is one of the rules of the Potter world that death is a pretty permanent thing and the whole Voldemort's story ark is about it and his fear of death. Harry survived, because Avada Kedavra does not harm the physical body, but instantly crushes the soul. Being a horcrux, he possessed 2 souls at the same time: 1 - His own, 2 - shard of Voldemort's soul. So by casting Avada Kedavra Voldemort himself killed the last part of his own soul.
Thanks. I knew the stone was not the reason he lived but was not aware of the Avada Kedavra curse crushing the soul. Is that noted in the book or did you get that from another source?
Actually it didn't kill Harry because the elder wand belonged to him which was used against him by Voldemort and just ended up killing Voldemort's soul instead.
@@claytoncourtney1309 The soul crushing thing is totally made up. The reason the curse didn't work on Harry is because the Elder Wand didn't want to murder its owner.
What nobody knows who hasnt read the books : By sacrificing himself in the woods, he has put the same love protection spell on everyone fighting in hogwarts. He after the scene in the woods they could not lose anymore. Harry Explained this to voldemort in the books right before voldemort dies.
Yeah but I don’t think the sacrificial protection works the same when put on that amount of people compared to just one person as lily did with Harry. Why? Because even after all the horcruxes were destroyed and Voldemort aimed his wand at Neville to kill him for killing Nagini, Harry casted a shield charm to block Neville. Although Avada Kedavra cant be blocked so kind if a plothole here but anyway I guess an explanation to it is the fact that they were under this protection and maybe it helped weaken the Avada Kedavra casted at Neville and did make it blockable, or maybe it was blockable by Harry’s shield charm because the elder wand didn’t cast any magic opposing Harry’s spells, but anyway once past this topic if how it got blocked, it brings us to this new question which is “if they have sacrificial protection, why would Harry block the Avada Kedavra knowing sacrificial protection should make the spell rebound back to Voldemort, and he wouldn’t survive this time because no horcruxes left?” The answer would be, either the sacrificial protection isnt as strong on multiple people that it would’ve killed them instead of rebounding or Harry just did it because he didn’t want the rebounding Avada Kedavra to damage or kill anyone else in the proximity since the night when Harry was a baby, it did damage the surroundings of the room. There’s also the prophecy saying only Harry could defeat Voldemort so maybe, believing this, he did everything to make the prophecy true by protecting others until he challenged Voldemort to defeat him himself, just to not risk anything and put faith in the prophecy, which ended up not being right anyway because Voldemort didn’t fully die due to that one soul piece being far too damaged to move onto death and he is stuck between life and death forever so that “one must die at the hand if the other” thing is wrong unless you count that one to refer to soul pieces which harry has killed but that wouldnt be special to harry because others have killed the souls of Voldemort contained in horcruxes as well. This got long, i hope my original point to why the sacrificial protection wouldnt have same effects to a group of people as it would for one person was understood.
@@nate2797 The stupidest asspull plot point bugs you? lmao Glad it was left out because it was stupid. It's literally a plot armor spell that activated automatically as someone chose to sacrifice themselves.
@@denizkenger52 not every Avada Kedavra can kill. Only perfected spell can do that (including even killing multiple people at once as well). Fake Moody taught us that - even if whole class pulled their wands at him, they wouldn't be able to harm him with it. Same goes with Crucio when Harry casted it on Bella - which only felt like a major stinging pain, not proper spell. Voldy not only used borrowed wand, but he used the wand against the shield itself and used it against Harry's will. Then you had ultimate boosted shield Protego. It couldn't work. This was the same reason why Harry stayed at Dursleys - their blood relation keeping the shield on extreme levels. Voldemort could only touch Harry cause they had the same blood after the ritual, but this was a new love sacrifice - keeping Voldy from being part of it.
One of my favorite things re: Harry's "death" is that you can either choose to believe he survived because Voldemort took Harry's blood and allowed Lily's protection to tether him to life...or you can believe that Harry had united all 3 Hallows at the time and was therefore "master of death". I think either interpretation (or both) is valid. As for whether or not Dumbledore knew Harry would die, the books mention a "gleam of triumph" in Dumbledore's eye at the end of Goblet of Fire when Harry returns with Cedric's body and tells him about Voldemort's resurrection in the graveyard--specifically about using Harry's blood for the resurrection. I don't think it's ever explicitly spelled out, but a lot of people think this is when Dumbledore saw there might be a loophole that would enable Harry to survive the destruction of the horcrux inside him.
The Resurrection Stone doesn‘t work like that, it is only to speak to loved ones once, when they are dead, this is what the guy in the Story of the Deathly Hallows with the Stone didn‘t knew
There's a third interpretation, which I thought was the most obvious one: that the Killing Curse can only take one life at a time, and that Voldemort's Horcrux essentially tanked the hit for Harry. That would seem to be the most literal option, the more metaphysical ones being the ones you described.
@@Pharo02 the master of death would be the owner of all 3 Deathly Hallows. He was already the owner of the cloak of invisibility, left to him by his father, he was left the Resurrection Stone by Dumbledore himself to open moments before he faced death, and he was the rightful owner of the Elder wand having bested Malloy at Malloy Manor . Harry was able to choose then to return, or move on.
@@angiepeterson1282 I never realised this as a possibility, always thought it was because of the blood Voldemort took from him. This is a very plausible theory, however there is a slight catch. In the books Harry drops the resurrection stone before entering the forest fully knowing he wouldn't be able to find it again so when he was killed by Voldemort he was no longer in possession of all of them.
Dumbledore referred to a double bond between Harry and Tom. This alway pointed to the blood theory for me as it refers to a state of being instead of a capability like the stone would give.
I love that in the duel between Minerva and Snape, he deflects her blasts into the Carrows behind him. Hermione and Ron's Kiss is much better in the book imo.
If you're ever up for it, all of the questions you had after the movie (why and how Harry became an accidental Horcrux) were explained in high detail in the books. J.K Rowling did an amazing job at wrapping up every loose end and really adding so much depth which were left out of the movies. There are so many intricate details that add so much to the characters. An example of this in the movie was the duel between Mcgonnagall and Snape. Since Snape was good all along, he allowed Mcgonnagall to win. He did not send curses back to protect the students. If you watch the Scene, he blocks the spells Mcgonnagall sends at him and relays them to the death eaters behind him, actually taking them out. A small detail which foreshadows and hints at Snapes true nature.
@@waterboy4512 Well he certainly hopped to logical locations for the wands to land prior to leaving. It's not mentioned in the books, but in the movies it seems highly likely.
That moment when it all starts to come together for Jen was beautiful. That's what these videos are all about. That's the magic of this series. (Snape dying, and then his memories.)
In the books Snape really doesn’t like Harry, because he, according to Snape, remembers James’ arrogance and rule-breaking, but he protects him in honor of Dumbledore and mainly to honor Lily
Snape is definitely not the villain, but I still don't get why so many people praise him so much for his actions - he still bullied a child. of course he was brave and honorable for giving his life for the cause, but i still have issues with so many people wanting to redeem his entire character
@@lillyd589 I think that the main thing is that he was a convicted death eater in the past, he truly supported Voldemort. Only when he threatened Lily that he switched sides and became an ally to Dumbledore, for me that’s why he can’t be seen as a straight up hero. I understand why people get so mad at him for the way he treated Harry but you have to think that in many times Harry was indeed breaking the rules but for “good reasons” that we only knew because we read the books and Snape, as a character from the book, couldn’t know this
@@pedrofreitas761 I get you... but consider this; Neville Longbottom; a child with heavy problems to do magic when he enters Hogwarts (his familly even believed at some point he could be a squib) and HEAVILY traumatized for having his parents gone mad by a curse; a child with true horrors in his past... his DEEPEST fear when he is 13 years old his master of potions; Snape; as shown in the scene with the boggart. This is because Snape CONSTANTLLY bullies not ony Harry, but Neville, Hermione and allmost any other non-Sitherin student he has ever taugth; to the point of allmost traumatizing them. Apart of being a racist sadist who would enjoy torturing his enemies (he did not simpy will to kill Sirius; but rather let his soulto be kissed by dementors; said to be excruciating; yet Severus wantedto see it)...he eventually did help 'the good guys' and made huge sacrifices for them; yeah. He was a brave man... but a piece of shit nevertheless. He is a great and well written character; but he is not a good man at all. Even he's love for Lilly is extrmelly one sided and creepy if you pass over all the platonic glitter... when he asked Dumbedore for help, he clearlly asked for Lilly to be saved; ignoring James and Harry; as the ony thing Severus wanted was her; not her hapiness... only when Dumbedore got furious, did Snape correct himsef and beg for the protection of the whole fmailly... ...not to mention that it was Snape the one who spied Dumbedore to obtain the Profecy and the one who gave it to Voldy; not caring who's child would we murdered; and ony regreting it when he reaised his action woud kill 'his' Lilly... by the way; Lilly and Jmaes had been in the Order of the Phoenix for moore than a year by the time the Dark Lord tageted them; so they where allready quite in perill before so; and Snape had been a Death Eater since he left Hogwarts; so at least three years by that time... yet he NEVER asked for Lilly's protection before he was the direct responsible of their impending death... soooo; no; great character; full of flaws and contradictions; great spy; a hero... but a horrible person.
32:00 Nope. The Resurrection stone didn't work that way. When Harry died, he had already dropped the stone in the forest. He only used it to see his loved ones. When Voldemort used the killing curse, he actually only killed the piece of his own soul within Harry. He didn't touch Harry's soul. Harry was still under the protection of his mother's love. Voldemort's soul wasn't. So the curse only killed the thing that wasn't being protected. The horcrux. Harry's willingness to die to save the rest of the people in the castle was the same selfless loving sacrifice that his mother had for him; but for the rest of the school. That's why the tide had turned in favor of the heroes after. They were all under Harry's new love protection spell. Edit: The reason Harry couldn't know about his own death was because he had to believe he was actually going to die in order for the "love protection" to work. If he knew that it would only kill the horcrux, then Harry wouldn't be sacrificing anything, and the protection wouldn't take effect. Dumbledore definitely knew that Harry wasn't actually going to die. He knew that he would still be protected by his mother's magic. Dumbledore knew that it would just kill Voldemort's soul inside Harry. I don't think Dumbledore was just going to let Harry die just because. He knew what he was doing. He had it all planned out from the beginning.
Also to be precise as to why his mother's protection really protected him, it was because voldemort had taken harry's blood (in 4th part), and since Lily's enchantment and protection continued to exist, so did harry. It was a really short description in the book and I have seen many people forget or miss it
Yes, the Resurrection Stone doesn‘t bring people back it only brings back their ghost and you can talk to them once! Voldemort only killed his own Horcrux which means the person who is a Horcrux would need to die two times and what is also funny is no one could kill him except Voldemort, for example Bellatrix Lestrange could use the Killing Curse on Harry, but he will not die :D
@@Pharo02 I am not sure if that's the case. I'd imagine if a person is horcrux, and killing curse is performed on them, both the person and horcrux would end. But harry survived because his mother's blood still existed in Voldemort, which also bound harry to life
I don’t think it was covered in the movies but Neville was incredibly important. He could have easily been marked instead of Harry. There were two kids who fit the prophecy and it was Neville and Harry. It’s one of the reasons Neville’s parents were tortured.
Neville’s parents were tortured to get information on what happened to Voldemort, not because of the prophecy. The prophecy was more accurate to Harry than Neville. Harry was born 31st of July whereas Neville was 30th July which means Harry is literally born as the 7th month dies.
Yes that’s true, the prophecy states “the dark lord will mark him as his equal” and Voldemort chose Harry instead of Neville because Harry is a half blood just like him. It could’ve been Neville but Voldemort chose Harry.
Harry was able to survive for this reason: In the books, on “the platform”, Dumbledore explains to Harry that when Voldemort regenerated his body in book 4, he used Harry’s blood. This meant that when Voldemort used the killing curse on Harry, he killed the part of his own soul, but because Voldemort was still alive, keeping Lily’s sacrifice alive, Harry was still protected.
Whenever I watch this last movie, I always think about how scared shitless those Death Eaters must have been of Harry. The guy survived two killing curses and killed Voldemort.
Harry lived through THREE attempts to kill him with Avada Kedavra: -as a baby, just after his mother's murder in Godric's Hollow -as a child, during a wand-duel in the Riddle cemetery -as an adult, during another wand-duel after the Battle of Hogwarts Harry went on to be an auror; imagine ANY dark wizard/witch seeing the auror coming for them being Harry Potter!
@@chris...9497I would say technically 4 times at start of deathly hallows when Voldemort is flying next to him and fires the killing curse Harry’s wand protects him
Hey Holden the reason Goyle was able to conjure that much fire is because of the forbidden spell he cast. Fiendfyre, by its nature, is an uncontrollable fire that consumes all, and once you cast it you have no control over it. Also, Hermione knew the spell and knew it was powerful enough to destroy horcruxes, but never attempted it because of how dangerous the spell is Also Holden Harry didn't die and come back because of the resurrection stone. He survived, while the curse killed the horcrux in Harry because of two things: Harry's own blood was used to create Voldemort's body. This allowed Voldemort to bypass the protection afforded to Harry by Lily's sacrifice, but it also ensured that Harry can theoretically survive as long as Voldemort himself lives. Voldemort was unwittingly trying to use Harry's own wand against him. Harry was the rightful Master of the Elder Wand(having won it from Draco, who unwittingly won it from Dumbledore in HBP). Thus, Voldemort's curse was deflected back to him when it met the spell from the wand Harry was using. Also a fun side note, by the end of the story, Harry becomes the fabled Master of Death by being the owner of the three Deathly Hallows. It is suggested that you are immortal when you own all three hallows, but never really confirmed to be true or not.
You are definitely not immortal by having all 3 hallows. Not only it it just a fairy tale, but to be the Master of Death means that you've accepted that death is inevitable. Harry and the third brother both "greet death as an old friend".
It's been quite a while since I've read the books, but I'm pretty confident Fiendfyre could be controlled, it just takes some serious spell knowledge to do. For instance Voldemort at the end of Order of the Phoenix likely used Fiendfyre, but was powerful enough to control it.
@@fir3gaming664 yes you can control it you just have to be EXTREMELY powerful and have an immense amount of concentration and practice with it, Voldemort was one of the few wizards able to use it and control it with great proficiency.
And also that at the time, Harry had more than one soul in him. If the Killing Curse kills one soul, then that would mean Harry was only _mostly_ dead.
Crabbe cast the Fiendfyre not Goyle. Also, you can control Fiendfyre, its just that Crabbe wasnt paying attention when the Carrows told him how to stop it.
31:36 Draco's mom asks Harry if Draco is still alive. Harry does his best to nod without moving enough for Voldemort to realize that he survived the killing curse. Draco's mom is so grateful for Draco being alive and Harry telling her about it that she lies to Voldemort and tells him that Harry is dead. 38:23 Not all wands work that way, it depends on the wand. Wands with a core of dragon heartstring are more prone to change allegiance, while ones with unicorn hair will never perform as well for anyone that isn't the original owner. In particular, the elder wand is probably the wand that is the most prone to changing allegiance in the entire series because all it cares about is the person who disarmed / defeated it's previous user. The wand chooses the wizard.
My fav Jen reaction to date. Don't worry, Snape isn't an underrated character in the slightest. Neither is the marvelous Alan Rickman who plays him so so utterly perfectly.
Agree, RIP Alan Rickman, surely the most iconic actor portraying Villains in movies ever. Bringing that comedic edge whilst maintaining being the bad guy. That’s a rare gift.
@@takemeaway285 Intact ... which means it can be reactivated by anyone who defeats Harry in the course of his career as an auror. Bad move. Should have been: use it for wand repair, _then_ break it, then reinter the pieces.
@@wwoods66 I think it could have been reactivated even if harry isn't defeated (maybe after harrys death). Like, no one knows how Gregorovitch got the wand but we can assume he didn't win it from previous owner. Perhaps he was following the trail and just found it. Grindewald later steals it (doesn't defeat Gregorovitch, maybe stuns him a bit with elder wand before actually winning it). So Grindewald used it no problem. It is implied that he controlled it completely, but even if we assume he didn't have 100% control of it since Dumbledore won it, Dumbledore did have 100% control. So what I am saying is that the elder wand, like any other wand that chooses a wizzard when buying it in the shop can probably choose the owner if the owner is skillful enough and is a match to it. Especially if the previous owner (in this case harry) dies of natural causes without being defeated. Then wand has no allegiance so it just chooses another. Also, there are speculations that the owner of Elder wand must be someone that saw death, since the core of wand is Testral hair and testrals can only be seen by people who saw death.
Harry is the master of death. At the end of the movie, he owns the Invisibility Cloak, has the Resurrection Stone, and is master of the Elder Wand. He literally has all of the Deathly Hallows.
Well movie does not really focus on the deathly hallows even though it is the title of the movie. It is a huge plotline in the books and shows us how Harry is a better man than Dumbledore.
@@thechh8297 I didn't say he possessed all of them at the same time. I said he was master of all of them at the same time. He claims ownership of all three deathly hallows at the same time. Just because he dropped the stone doesn't mean he doesn't know where it is. It also doesn't mean that it doesn't still belong to him. Just because it's not on his person doesn't mean he doesn't still claim ownership of it. When you leave your house, the things inside your house are still yours.
@@Saimeren well, if you dropped something very small in a random area in the middle of a forest and left it, I really doubt you would ever find it again. Even if you did find it again I absolutely wouldn't believe you if you said it was yours. If I found it first, I wouldn't believe you if you said it was yours, and I definitely wouldn't give it back just because you said so. Can you truly be considered the master -the owner- of something you don't actually have in your possession or keeping, which you might never find again? Something, if someone else found first, they would then assume mastery of the moment they picked it up?
The character of snape was really thought of from the beginning, when in first year first potions class, snape bullies Harry with questions, it is a secret message about Lily 🥰 The first thing Snape asks Harry is “Potter! What would I get if I added powdered root of asphodel to an infusion of wormwood?” According to Victorian Flower Language, asphodel is a type of lily meaning ‘My regrets follow you to the grave’ and wormwood means ‘absence’ and also typically symbolised bitter sorrow. If you combined that, it meant ‘I bitterly regret Lily’s death’.
The most shocking thing about this entire Harry Potter reaction "We haven't seen Lord of the Rings yet"....words cannot describe what I'm feeling right now!
The disarming of a wizard resulting in the wand changing allegiance is only applied to the elder wand, the other mention of wand's allegiances is more to with how the wand chooses the wizard, almost as if the wand is its own entity within own morals.
Yeah well Draco’s own wand changed allegiance pretty easily as well. Literally Harry uses muggle way to take his wand and the wand changes allegiance. I dont like this, he gains both elder wand and draco’s wand’s allegiance by wrestling draco’s wand off him, not even besting him magically.
People use other people’s wands all the time through out the series. The difference is the only the master of the Elder Wand can use the Elder Wand to it’s full power of being the most powerful wand in the world. It’s specific to the Elder Wand.
Goyle is using fiendfyre, a living fire that can cause unimaginable damage and is one of the only things that can destroy a horcrux. He was taught how to by the Carrows (Death Eater Teachers) but never worked out how to master it.
Having read the books, I never understood how that is just a thing wizards can do (especially goyle who is generally thick, although they say he put more effort into dark magic). Does it need special components to create, or can wizards creat nigh-unstoppable cursed fire on a whim? Even if it’s so hard to control, you’d think death eaters would use it more often. It seems very strong given how difficult horcruxes are to destroy. I’m probably overthinking it
@@anonymouszebra1239 I would think it's probably very hard to control and even trying to learn it might cause your own death so it's an overall almost impossible spell to master without killing yourself first.
@@anonymouszebra1239 its strong because its like a never ending fire, so unless the caster knows how to end the spell it will just continue on (you can see goyle flicking his wand trying to stop it) thats also why it can destroy horcruxes. and probably also why death eaters dont use it often, its an advance spell not because its hard to cast but because its hard to stop
I think Holden should really read the books. They're such an easy read, even more so if you already like the franchise. And they add SO much more value and meaning to the lore. It's not about being more or less of an expert on HP, it's really about the amount of enjoyment he would clearly have reading them. The reading effort would be so low both in terms of time (compared to other books) and difficulty (again, so easy to read, the writing style just make it so easy to just go page after page), that it's a total win win scenario in term of enjoyment over effort ratio :)
Well-stated. The books aren't just the films with more lore and details. They're like the films but you get to spend ten times longer on each great moment and each finale. I think Holden has already read the first two, but I would definitely recommend he gives the third one a shot since, like the films, that's where it starts to pick up.
At the time I honestly had no idea. I reread the chapter where Snape killed Dumbledore many times trying to find something that meant Snape hadn't, in reality, killed him. Or something that meant that Dumbledore wasn't truly dead. The twist at the end of book 7 was a genius move imo.
@@RikudoSennin47 not me. I was hoping it wasn’t so because he’s my favorite along with Lucius Malfoy. But when the snake killed me, I couldn’t believe he died & it solidified that he was actually evil & it made me feel like a fool because this was a sign that his story was fully ending & then the flashback happened & I was so happy. But I was think that he did some type of switching bodies spell last moment when he killed dumbledore cause the movie he dies it ends with his bird in the sky & I was hoping he put he made Dumbledore switch bodies with his bird & so I stayed in denial for 3 movies till I realized that he was actually gone-gone.
Another little tidbit is that Harry had one of the Deathly Hallows all along. His invisibility cloak is more special than other ones in the wizarding world. It was an heirloom that was left to him by his father, held on to by Dumbledore and that was his gift to Harry for his first Christmas in the castle. It never fades like normal ones, which start to become visible/opaque over time as they age. His even stops/resists a spell at one point in the books, so it’s not just invisibility, it’s downright protective and resistant to all magic. And, if we’re to believe the legend, that cloak was passed down from generation to generation, so Harry may be a descendent of that third brother, who greeted Death as an old friend when his time came. In the book, Harry wears it into the forest when he goes to meet Voldemort. He walks into the clearing and then takes it off. He chooses to greet death head on, surrenders the last thing keeping him safe. Little fun fact.
Also when walking into the forest to meet Voldemort, Harry had the resurrection stone and had the allegiance of the elder wand... so technically Harry was the master of ALL of the deathly hallows which according to the story made one the master of death. When he didn't fight back and greeted death while mastering all of the deathly hallows that is why imo Harry was resurrected. I believe that Voldemort did kill Harry cause you had to destroy the vessel in order to destroy the soul. But Harry didn't stay dead because of the deathly hallows.
@@antoinettefinner3488 it's confirmed in the books that the reason he survived the last Avada Kadavra is due to Voldemort being resurrected using Harry's blood that still had Lily's protection in it. It meant as long as Voldemort lived that protection stayed and as such he couldn't kill Harry.
@@davidhughes5842 This may be long so bare with me.... Here is why I don't think that info meant what we all thought it did.... When Harry was hit with the killing curse in the woods... if Harry couldn't be killed then why would he end up in what was essentially Limbo with the decision to "go on" or "go back"? That always bothered me cause if Harry decided to go on he would be dead dead. I think the protection from Lily went to Harry's Soul. Not that he couldn't physically kill Harry. When I went back to reread the books with my son I began to understand something differently, and the reason why I think Dumbledore had to plan for Voldemort to kill Harry. In Goblet of Fire when Harry tells Dumbledore about Voldemort taking his blood for protection. The protection that was afforded from the blood was that Voldemort couldn't kill or touch Harry's SOUL. By now Dumbledore knew 3 things...Harry was a horcrux, that he(Dumbledore) could now find a way to get Voldemort to kill Harry and Harry survive it again, and he knew that Voldemort had just helped in his own demise. Because Voldemort had Harry's blood that allowed him to hurt Harry physically. But because Harry had 2 souls.... his and Voldemort's... then the killing curse performed in the woods killed the only soul it could... His OWN. Allowing Harry's to remain in tact. What would have happened had Harry not been the master of the Hallows... He probably would have been stuck in limbo... Not able to move on (because of the protection). But because he was master of all of the DH then that allowed him to make the decision to go on or go back.. again just my opinion.
"The wand chooses the wizard." Wands can be temperamental in their allegiance. Simply disarming a wizard in a practice won't necessarily change who the wands works best for; it's more about defeating them to take the wand. Some wands are more easygoing (especially those with unicorn hair cores, which is probably why Ron's first wand, which was a hand-me-down from his brother Charlie and had a unicorn hair core, worked well enough for him until it broke) but the Elder Wand likely gravitated to whichever witch or wizard it felt had won it. Since it knew that Harry had disarmed Malfoy, it changed its allegiance to Harry.
Just to note since this comment is fairly high up, Harry did actually break the Elder Wand in the books, but he used it before he did to fix his original wand that Hermione accidentally broke, they'd tried everything else before to fix it and hadn't managed to prior.
Another little way the books show this is when you realize Neville has been using his father's wand. And we see his struggle with his magic up until the point it broke in Order of the Phoenix. We have to assume he got a wand that was right for him personally. And we also see his magic improve from that point and therefore his confidence.
I also feel that the Elder Wand can be loyal, but not to someone who craves it for power or to evade death. I feel it rejects and betrays those owners, which is why, despite being powerful, those wizards were always losing it. From the first owner to Grindelwald to Voldemort. So much for being an unbeatable wand. The first wizard we see it stay allied with for a long time is Dumbledore. The second one we see is Harry. Both wizards who do not fear death, do not seek power, and one of whom actually practically walked into death. And, lo and behold, in Harry's case, the wand actually favored Harry...a far less powerful wizard at the time... and rejected Voldemort... a more powerful wizard at the time, and acted to give Harry the win. We also know that Harry works as an auror and so the likelihood he is disarmed from time to time is high. We also know for a fact he is disarmed by Voldemorts daughter in the Cursed Child. Yet, the Elder Wand, as far as we know, seems to not care.
I feel like Holden wants to watch his wife's reaction just as much as we do. He can't stop watching her from the corner of his eyes whenever their's a big scene coming.
I'm sure someone else has already said this but when Narcissa asks "Is he alive? Draco, is he alive?" she's not asking Draco if Harry is alive, she's asking Harry if Draco is alive and that's why he nods. She only cares about the safety of her family, and you see that even in Half Blood Prince; she just wants her son to be safe. The Malfoy's over time lose their allegiance to Voldemort, they only stick by him out of fear, not loyalty. So in the end, Narcissa just wants to know whether or not her son is safe and when Harry nods, she lies to Voldemort and says that he's dead. That's also why they demanded that Draco come with them at the end, because they knew shit was about to go down since Harry wasn't actually dead and they wanted to get their son out of there.
THIS, thank you. I got that scene at the very first time, but I see why I can be confusing for others. I still don't quite understand how she kinda knew (or at least suspected) that Voldemort didn't really kill Harry, hence why she asked him about her son.
About Draco's mother. She was concerned for dracos well being, so she noticed harry was alive and asked him about her son. Once she knew draco was alive, she lied to Voldemort cause she had a reason to live and wanted Harry to defeat Vold. Her action is underestimated cause you have to remember that Voldemort was a full expert in legilimency (reading minds) It was not an easy task to decieve Voldemort in any way (she could have died right in the spot for attempting it). So Snape and Narcisa showed real braveness in doing it. JK Rowling has stated that she wanted Harry to be saved by a mother's love twice, and that is what happened; first her mother saved him, then Malfoy's mother.
And that’s why I ultimately liked Narcissa, I don’t believe she was ever as cruel as Lucius was even if she had a pure blood superiority mindset. I don’t think she wanted to actually become a death eater and only became one because of her husband and Bellatrix. Her and Draco deserved a second chance. Lucius, on the other hand, is a different story.
Voldy didn't kill harry, Voldy killed the part of himself that latched onto Harry as an infant. Harry never died, Voldemort killed himself, harry was the last horcrux keeping voldy alive.
No, Harry did technically die. His soul was just in a sort of limbo. If he wanted, he could’ve stayed dead but he chose not to. In order to destroy the horcrux, u have to destroy the object that it’s contained in, so Harry did need to die for it to be destroyed.
@@solcohen9042 No. Harry never died. Otherwise the Elder Wands pull potential would've made it impossible for Harry to win their duel because it would answer to Voldemort because at that point it was still loyal to Harry.
@@SEliteGuitarist99 In order to destroy a horcrux, u must destroy the object it’s in. U can’t just destroy the horcrux itself and leave the vessel alone. If u could only destroy the horcrux then the basilisk fang should’ve destroyed the horcrux in Harry in Chamber of Secrets. If my memory serves me right, Harry was given the choice to stay dead or come back, that implies he was medically deceased, but not magically deceased as he was in “limbo”
@@SEliteGuitarist99 It wouldn't answer to Voldermort because he didn't defeat Harry, he just killed him. That's the very same reason why the Wand chose Draco instead of Snape - Draco disarmed Dumbledore against his will. But Voldemort killing Harry was not against Harry's will. If all went according to Dumbledore's plan in THBP and Draco didn't disarm Dumbledore, Snape would have killed him in accordance with Dumbledore's will, he would have died undefeated and the Elder Wand would have lost its power. It's explained very well in the book. Likewise, if Harry chose to stay dead and move on, he would have died undefeated and the Wand would have lost its power all the same.
"To win a wand, one must overpower and hence defeat its master in some way. However, it should be noted that wands usually stay loyal to their original owners. For example, even if a wizard is disarmed or loses a fight while carrying his wand, the wand will have developed an affinity with its original owner so that it will not be given up easily. Therefore, simply disarming a wizard may not be enough to win over a wand's allegiance. Wands will also not be won in practise duels as the perceived levity of the situation will prevent the wand from abandoning its defeated master. Even when won, wands will often still retain some fealty to the original owner. The only exception to this is the Elder Wand, which is "completely unsentimental" and will only be loyal to strength. In other words, when won, it switches its allegiance entirely." From the wiki.
Jen saying "What do we do" when Snape died broke my heart. Just like Itachi in Naruto, Snape was the villain for the greater good and when we find that out it breaks my heart over and over again
This was kinda Neville’s time to shine, if you think about it. 1. Helping Harry, Ron, and Hermione into Hogwarts 2. Blowing up the Hogwarts bridge 3. Speech that Harry “didn’t die in vain” 4. Pulling out the sword of Gryffindor 5. Killing Nagini (the snake)
If Neville can get some there’s hope for us all All jokes aside sad this series is over but been a blast watching it with ya’ll! Can’t wait to see what you watch next 😊
@@apatternedhorizon I know I'm not the only one who thought the Neville/Luna dynamic was a good match. She has such faith in others and he is so faithful to others.
What I really love about this movie is the use of the score. Alexander Desplat really could have made a typical big bombastic score for THE BATTLE OF HOGWARTS but instead he made Courtyard Apocalypse and Statues iconic because of how melancholy they are. Statues is the typical brass prepping for battle score you hear in all movies that have a final battle. But the long notes of the horns coupled with the steady rhythm of the drums then morphing into the plucking of the strings makes it feels more like a sad march than an epic get ready for war. And that's because it is a sad march. Hogwarts was everyone's home, not just for the characters, but for us as well. To see it become nothing more than a battleground is honestly....it's-it's upsetting. Then with Courtyard Apocalypse, it starts out with the drums again, a call to action. Then the horns and strings come in. This score is absolutely iconic because while it's cool to see our heroes finally fight the darkness, again it's still upsetting to see students teenagers go through this in a place that was supposed to feel safe for them. Instead of it being frenetic action, it's sad and somber because we're seeing our home burn. Jen said it best "awww this is depressing." war is too often over glorified and what I like about the HP books and films, is that it shows the REALITY of it-that is isn't fun, that it isn't something to be talked about as if to glorify the actions of those in the war....War is awful. You fight for what's right because that's the only right thing to do, but it comes at a cost. And HP was good at showcasing that cost. Even down to deaths that just seemed so unfair, but life often isn't fair. So I respect HP for that. I also really like how Harry, Ron and Hermione have to face their respective fears while making their way to the boathouse-spiders for Ron, the troll for Hermione, and the Dementors for Harry.
When someone asks me if Snape is a good guy or a bad guy, I usually say; "He's a good guy. Whether or not he's a good person is debatable." and I think that just about sums it up.
@@hendrikscheepers4144 If it wasn't true love that Snape felt for Lily, then he wouldn't have been able to cast the Patronus. And yeah, he made mistakes during his youth, but for twenty years he more than made up for it.
People tend to think that just because he protected Harry that he is a good person. But he isn't he is bitter and angry and his hatred for the marauders is showcased in the way he treats Sirius and harry
@@hendrikscheepers4144 I mean.... have we read the same books? He did accept it and move on. After Lily (quite rightly) didn't accept his apology, we don't have evidence he continued to force himself onto her/harass her. He LEFT HER STRICTLY ALONE after she ended the friendship. That doesn't depict obsession.
@@sudhirraghav2157 It is isn't surprising he doesn't care about saving James life. To be brutally honest, James doesn't deserve that much from Snape and we both know it. About Harry.... fair argument but remember it was a desperate situation for him at that point, And he corrected himself almost immediately.
Neville is often overlooked by the viewer and reader just as he was overlooked by Voldemort. In Order of the Phoenix it is explained through the prophecy that links Harry and Voldemort that “the dark lord would mark him his equal”. Neville was born around the same time as Harry and his parents were also in The Order and defied him, but he chose Harry instead. Neville is such an interesting character. He could have been the chosen one. In some ways he is the modern version of Peter Pettigrew to the Trio. The difference being that our trio treats him better. Harry specifically gets close to Neville when they talk at St. Mungos and then later during DA meetings. Once Neville worked through the lingering trauma the Deatheaters left on him/his family and gained confidence, Neville becomes a force to be reckoned with. He leads the DA and fights the Carrows while the trio are off finding horcruxes. Neville kept the rebellion alive at Hogworts and the room of requirement safe as a staging ground/base of operations.
IMO Neville should have became the professor of the defense against the dark arts instead of the professor of herbology. It would have suited his character development more.
I don’t think Neville is getting overlooked by book readers. All book readers I know love Neville. He has such a great character development. I always loved him. And especially since the fifth book he has been one of my favorite characters. Definitely top three. Also, only because he became good at defense against the dark arts, Herbology was always that what made him happy and what he was the good at. You should do that what you have passion. I feel like Herbology was really his thing.
@@bobizzle1605 I disagree, herbology is what Neville enjoys and loves to do. He stepped up to defense for the sake of it needing to be done at the time, he might be good at it, but does he actually enjoy it? If anything, you waste his character development if you throw herbology out the window.
Also up until it was broken in Order of the Phoenix, Neville was using his father's wand. In the books we know from Neville relaying comments from his grandmother. That Neville's father was a more sure of himself type. And we can assume he would attracted a different type of wand than Neville. We do see Neville's magic and confidence jump leaps and bounds after. And some of that could be having a wand that picked him.
Also, by the end of it Neville showed that he was a true Gryffindor because the sword only responds to true Gryffindors, as it did for Harry in the Chamber of Secrets.
So I’m answering as I’m watching 1. Ghosts are people who have some unresolved business and in their death they refuse to let go and choose an impoverished version of life, 2. What Goyle cast was fiendfyre. It’s kind of like a sentient fire, anyone can cast it however to control it and stop it from consuming you it requires great control, which goyle obviously didn’t have 3. Snape having a doe is significant because your patronus changes to the patronus of the person you love (it’s explained more in the book) 4. Harry is able to return back to life because when Voldemort took in Harry’s blood in his own resurrection which has his mothers sacrificial protection in, meaning Voldemort himself can never ever kill Harry whilst he still lives because he himself is anchoring Harry to the real world, essentially Voldemort because an anti horcrux for Harry, he can return without splitting his soul 5. And you’re correct, Harry repairs his own wand then puts the elder wand back in dumbledores grave and when Harry dies a normal death the power of the wand will wain.
I'd like to add a bit more to the point 3, for people who haven't read the books. Patronuses are a force produced by hapiness. A requirement to produce this charm, is to fill oneself of a powerful happy memory. So it happens often that your happiests moments are shared with people you love the most. So if your happy memory is linked to someone you love, it is common that your patronus will assume a form that remind that person. That's the reason Harry's patronus is a stag, because James animagi form was a stag. That's the reason Tonks's patronus is a wolf, cause Remus is a werewolf.
A wizard's will is a big factor. So in an expeliarmous charm or spell, if the students are just practicing, or if its just a mild wizards spat - there is no will to permanently remove the wizard's wand or will to stop him; defeat him. Harry definitely wanted to defeat the evil that Malfoy was attached to BUT ALSO - it is pretty clear that Malfoy did not have his heart in it. And we see clear indications of Malfoy submitting to Harry - so that is all a BIG part of why Harry not only defeats Malfoy easily, but also is then the master of the Elder Wand BECAUSE (and I don't know if Dumbledore planned this) but since Dumbledore clearly submitted to Malfoy at the Astronomy Tower, the wand's owner ship passed to Malfoy. But when Malfoy then submitted and was bested by Harry - Harry, as he astutely figures out - is indeed the Master of the Elder Wand. In the end, it was Voldemort's ignorance that defeated him... from a certain point of view.
The reason for Dumbledore's withered hand is that when he found the Ring Horcrux, he recognised the stone on the top as the Resurrection Stone. He wanted to use the stone to see Arianna so made the mistake of putting the ring on, which tried to kill him. Snape was able to contain the poison but not stop it. Dumbledore sets things up so that when he enters the Forbidden Forest, he is the owner of all 3 of the Deathly Hallows. The Cloak from his Father, the Stone and he was the owner of the Elder Wand - the wand Voldemort uses to try and kill him.
@@danielaf3092 He anticipated so many things. I wouldn't be surprised if he set everything in place with Snape's help. When he said "you must be the one to kill me Severus", he must have known that Snape couldn't have the wand. Voldemort believed that the wand belongs to whoever killed the last owner but it doesn't require you to kill the holder, merely defeat them. Would Snape have told Voldemort that someone else disarmed Dumbledore first? I doubt it as that would put Malfoy and the plan at risk. Given the animosity between Harry and Draco, Dumbledore probably surmised that they would come to blows again but Harry would win. Its speculation but its also fiction and open to interpretation. I like to think of Dumbledore fighting the war as if he were playing the perfect game of Wizard chess.
If you go back when McGonagall was facing off with Snape, Snape reflected her spells and used them to knock out the two others that were with him, so they couldn't do anything.
I really like this movie except for the last confrontation between Voldemort and Harry. In the book they don't really fight at all. There is absolutely no way that Harry could hold his own against Voldemort. Sure he's good in Defense Against the Dark Arts but Harry would lose against Voldemort's weird tentacles every time. The only reason Harry survived was that the Elder Wand wouldn't kill it's real master. In the book, their last confrontation is just a conversation in front of everyone who is still standing in Hogwarts until they both attack at the same time and Voldemort dies, just like any man. His body doesn't dissolve, he's just a regular, if ugly af, man. Harry also repairs his own wand using the Elder Wand (nothing else worked) and then puts it back into Dumbledore's grave, hoping to die old as the last Master and ending the cycle of violence.
It's been years since I've read the book, but at the end, didn't Harry's sacrifice essentially cast the same kind of magic over everyone at Hogwart's that Lily's sacrifice cast over him, so Voldemort is left essentially powerless during their final confrontation?
@@JeffKelly03 I believe you're correct. None of his spells seem to be able to hit anyone, neat detail. I also love that in the confrontation between Voldemort & the death eaters and the Defenders of Hogwarts in front of the castle, Voldemort keeps silencing the crowd with a spell, but they keep breaking his magic.
@@JeffKelly03 Yea the same protection his mother gave him he gave to everyone else but I do agree the book ending is much more epic not sure why they changed the ending
@@JeffKelly03 No I don't think so. Harry did sacrifice for others but he knew he had to die. He literally gave up his life so that voldemort could be defeated. Lily actually sacrificed with pure love for her son that's why the spell rebounded. It might be possible that his sacrifice might have cast some sort of protection over the students. I guess JK Rowling left it to the readers to interpret this part as they wish.
I LOVE seeing Jen fall in love with this series like so many of us have! I have a couple friends I want so badly to watch it. I know they’ll love it like we all do if they’ll give it a chance. Great reactions across the board!
A victim of the system to be fair. Born through love potion - being pretty much emotionally disabled, then living through second war in muggle orphanage and getting awful care in Hogwarts.
Fun fact: the reason dumbledore says like “Still?” and Snape says “Always”is because that’s right after snape sends out the patronus and his patronus is the same as Lilly’s . That’s because Patronus’ can change over time and turn into the same patronus of the one you love the most, hence why snapes patronus is Lilly’s. Also it’s not every wand that can be taken with disarming , it’s specifically the Elder Wand and then if the wand chooses to switch loyalties like Draco’s cuz the wand chooses the wizard like in sorcerer’s stone
Snape Vs McGonagall - if you notice, he only defended himself, never attacked her. Moreover, he diverted her spells against the 2 death eaters behind him. So he never meant to hurt her. Same goes in half blood prince, during the scene where bellatrix set fire to hagrid's cottage: she tried to use the cruciatus cirse against harry, but snape stopped her
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32:03 it’s not the Resurrection Stone that made Harry survive the Killing Curse, it was because in Goblet of Fire, Voldemort took Harry's blood for him to touch/harm Harry again, but what it really did is act as Harry's bond to life (meaning as long Voldemort's alive, Harry could not die). So when Harry was struck by Voldemort 's Avada Kedavra, he went into Limbo where he met Dumbledore
Sorry, not entirely true. The movie isn't good on that topic, so the book explains it much better. The Deathly Hallows are those 3 ancient magical artifacts, "The Elder Wand", "The Resurrection Stone", and the "Cloak of Invisibility". As you might remember, all 3 were created by Death himself. The legend of the Deathly Hollows says that if one possesses the alliance of all 3 artifacts, the owner is the "Master of Death". Harry inherited the cloak from his father, he inherited the stone from Dumbledore, and the wand he won. However one wants to interpret that. Some people say that person can't die. Others say by attacking Harry with the death curse, Voldemort actually attacked the Horcrux, destrying it. However that works, the Deathly Hallows seem like an insurance plan by Dumbledore. Dumbledore knew a lot about the Deathly Hallows ever since his "friend" Grindelwald was already obsessed with the legend.
@@ONITOPIA sorry but this isnt true, what you’re stating isnt a fact and only reliant on a fairy tale made for kids. So, the thing about these three objects combined making the master if death could just be an exaggeration of the real story to make it more fairy tale like for children. The story that these objects were given by death isn’t even a fact. Ignotus, Cadmus and Antioch may have come upon these objects or created them themselves. It’s all dependant on a fairy tale that explains a story that happened a very long time ago so the story going from ear to ear may have changed every time it was told. The original comment is right. This one is merely a theory and even if the master of death with the three objects being possessed at the same time was right, this would mean Harry still wasnt master of death because he dropped the resurrection stone before he died so he wasnt possessing it at the time.
@@ONITOPIA Sorry, not true. The original comment is the correct reason why Harry survived. Dumbledore himself explains it when Harry meets him in limbo.
@@ONITOPIA There's an actual book called Tales of Beedle the Bard where Dumbledore comments on every story it contains. In the story of The Tale of the Three Brothers, Dumby says that as powerful as the Hallows was, he's sure that it wasn't made by Death himself but rather by genius individuals (Antioch, Cadmus, and Ignotus Peverell). The Unbeatable wand got beaten all the time, the Resurrection Stone cannot resurrect only create illusions (it's actually a rule in HP world that there's no magic that could really resurrect the dead), and the Cloak of Invisibility that is supposed to hide you from everyone and yet there are couple of people who saw Harry even if he was wearing it. So in short, The Hallows albeit powerful were nothing more but a bunch of novelty items.
Love Snape character, definitely my favourite. Also, this movie gives more meaning to the scene of Dumbledore´s death, where Snape doesnt want to kill his friend, but Dumbledore tells him "Severus, please", because he knows it has to be done in order to protect Draco and save the others. To me, it is almost the perfect ending, connecting all the missing pices, and makes me apreciate even more the other movies!
15:30 It’s more fire than Dumbledore conjured up bc Dumbledore can actually controle it and he conjured the amount of fire he WANTED to conjure. Also the spell that Dumbledore used was firestorm. Goyle can’t so then it accumulates and gets out of controle. He could’t controle the flames that were coming out of his wand so he just threw it lmao. The spell Goyle use was Fiendfyre
I love this movie but there is one part that really disappoints me: Voldemort’s death. He dies by basically evaporating into dust, like he’s not human. In the books, he just drops dead. He dies a normal, mortal, human death. The exact opposite of what he wanted. Despite all his efforts, he died as just a regular guy. Much more poetic imo.
I definitely agree that the books version of voldemort's death was better and more unsettling, however I think the directors wanted something more dramatic and cinematic, while also demonstrating to the audience that he was actually dead (since we saw harry essentially fake his death beforehand so people may not be convinced if voldemort just fell over and 'died- had to show his death to be permanent')
I agree, but it's something you cannot recreate in the movies. To see the meaning of that "just human death", you need to have the background of Voldemort's obsession with being exceptional and conquering death. It's something that of course is mentioned in the movies, but not stressed as much. Half blood prince should've explored all these Voldemort's values and obsessions, but they just hitned at it, and instead they chose to focus on doing all that teenage drama (which is in the books too, but not so exaggerated). So, even if they had gone for the "human" death, it wouldn't have had the same impact it had on the book because they never gave the background necessary for it to be that impactful.
Considering the whole point of destroying the horcruxes was to render him into just another mortal man, the whole getting snapped by Thanos thing may have looked cool but really didn't make sense.
The fired that Goyle conjured is called "fiend fire", and it's one of the only things that can destroy horcruxes. But they chose not to use it because it's so dangerous and difficult to control.
But was he goyle? Cuz in the first movies they referred to the other kid as goyle, the kid who wasn't in this. That guy was crabbe I think something went wrong somewhere
@@njh123 Actually, that guy was Goyle from the very beginning. That being said, in the book I'm pretty sure it was Crab who set everything on fire. I remember when this movie first came out being confused as to where Crab was, because I had read the books.
@@tomcattvreacts ok, but im like 90% sure malfoy refers tp crabbe as goyle in the earlier movies. Also lego harry potter years 1-4 has them flipped so my confusion might come from there
The actor who played Crabbe missed out on the 8th film because he got in trouble with the law and was unavailable for filming. The third Slytherin in the room of requirement scene was Blaise Zabini (sp?) and Goyle ended up casting the Fiend Fire that burned the room up.
*One of my favorite scenes in any HP is a deleted scene, the scene with adult Harry and Aunt Petunia, so much intensity and possibility, shame it was cut and not expanded on love the idea of horcrux harry making them go wonko tho
Also Snape disliked Harry partly because he looked like his bully, and partly that he didn't want to give away any connection to his mother or that he loved her. Because the books explained that Snape was torn between hating Harry and protecting Harry.
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In the books Dumbledore tried to use the ring to bring back his sister before destroying the horcrux, and in doing so released a curse. Snape slowed it down considerably with a counter-curse but he was dying anyways, so he told Snape to kill him so Voldemort would trust him completely. Really enjoyed your reactions!
In the books, he wanted Snape to kill him out of mercy in order to spare Malfoy's soul as well :(
@@RomanRodri23 :D
I mean he did that in movies as well but in the background. Also we don't really know, if it was because he wanted to see her. We don't know either, if it was his own will to do so or just Horcrux playing on his desires and him getting stupidly tempted. He could have easily taken down the curse - then put it on/use it. He would probably also get attacked by Tommy, but it wouldn't be as devastating. Also we could assume that he did in fact use it. Which would work perfectly with the history of the Stone - pushing everyone to unliving themselves (that also includes Harry who only after using it - was perfectly ready to sacrifice himself).
Haha, I went here to point this out :-)
@Leonardo Santuario Oh yeah I remember. There was a whole chapter in the 5th book where all the characters are having an orgy. That is why i prefer the books
My favorite little detail about Snape is that when McGonagall attacks him, he deflects all of her attacks into the Death Eaters behind him. Even when his the bad guy, he’s a good guy.
He was never a bad guy ):
Didn't happen like that in book. Amicus and Alecto were already knocked out and McGonagall didn't fight alone, Sprout and Flitwick also attacked him and Snape jumped out the window and flew away. And it didn't happen in front of everyone. Only Harry and Luna were there.
Another example: Snape kills Hedwig the owl - when the death eaters attack the several Harrys, who are trying to escape. It is horrible, but the reason is: 1. Snape realized, whom the real Harry was, because of the owl. If he knew - others could figure it out as well. 2. He had to appeare as if fighting the Order and Harry, without harming any of them. To kill poor Hedwig was showing that he tried to kill perfectly to the other death eaters.
@@Burstify I mean, he was at one point. Dude was a death eater until Lily was in danger. I bet if it was Neville Voldemort suspected and went after him and his parents Snape would have not stopped being a death eater.
@@amysilknitter8928 yep. Clearly these people didn't read the books. The whole point of Snape Character is that he's a morally grey character. Not someone whose 'good' or 'bad;.
In the book Harry repairs his old wand with the elder wand and then puts it back in Dumbledore's tomb where it's magic will be broken if Harry dies a natural death.
I dont believe that the magic will ever broken.
Imagine if person a has the wand and person b beats person a in a duel. The wand now answers to person b I think at this moment the wand magic will reactivate for person b. That said, if someone beats person b that wand will belong to someone else.
Not it’s magic but it’s bloody History that wants the new owner to win it from the previous owner. That caused wizards to kill to get ownership of the wand.
He placed the wand to Dumbledore’s Grave to conceal it.
No one knew about it. If Harry would die from natural cause (ageing) the chain of killings would be broken.
The wand would continue to be the most powerful wand ever made.
But no one could know! If if they knew about the wand, no one could think to search in Dumbledore’s grave to find it.
thats my head cannon as well
If you count cursed child as canon, which I dont, Delphi is the master of the elder wand since she disarms Harry.
No one but Harry, Ron, Hermione, and the Hogwarts headmaster portraits know where the Elder Wand is. Voldemort and the trio were the only living people who knew about the Horcruxes. As long as they keep their secret to the grave, the Elder Wand remains buried.
I think they had Harry break the Elder Wand in the film because they wanted it to be clear that the HP storyline was definitely over. It would not surprise me at all if the trio approached JKR and begged her to allow it. Those actors gave up their childhood to make these films, and they were DONE.
When Narcissa Malfoy leans down and asks Harry if Draco is still alive, Harry nods and it's implied that she knows that Harry saved him. So to repay him, she lies to Voldemort saying he is dead.
Upvoting so Holden sees this because this is how I understand it as well, Harry protected Draco so Narcissa protected him in return. A mothers love saved Harry from Voldemort twice.
I don’t remember it as her realizing Harry saved Draco, but with Draco being alive, she knows her best chance at keeping her family alive is for Harry to win. Harry surviving two killing curses at the hands of the most powerful wizard ever is as good of a sign that Voldemort cannot win as any other
I just checked the book and Narcissa had no idea Harry saved Draco. She only cared about getting Draco back and knew Harry was her only chance.
From Deathly Hallows Chapter 36 Pages 382-383:
"Is Draco alive? Is he in the castle?"
"Yes," he breathed back.
"He is dead!" Narcissa Malfoy called to the watchers.
Narcissa knew that the only way she would be permitted to enter Hogwarts,
and find her son, was as part of the conquering army. She no longer cared whether Voldemort won.
@@HypocritesExposd gotcha. Yeah it’s been a minute since Ive read the book so even when I was writing the comment I was like, did she know? But yeah the idea is still the same. It’s a really cool moment.
@@ethanfosterYT yup all good and yes such a great moment. That’s karma really, Harry saved her son and she saves Harry.
Narcissa for the most, never cared to be a Death Eater. Her concern for Draco's safety was more important to her, and that allowed her to openly lie to Voldermot. Her bravery in that moment was almost on the same level as Snapes.
Voldemort never understood love , so never got the real of Snape, narcissa and Harry.
Othervise it is not easy to stand aginst the master of dark arts with lying whether it was lying dead , or telling lies flagrantly to him.
Beause voledemort was born of love potion he never understood love and other related things.
dude that's the only reason Harry didn't die, if she actually cared about being a death eater, Harry would be dead and Voldemort would have won.
The entire series hinges on the theme of parental love.
“I’ve deceived one of the greatest wizards of all time.” - Snape as Bellatrix and others would assume he meant Dumbledore when he really meant voldomort. I love that line from the 6th movie
Wow so when he said that, he actually meant Voldemort? All these years I thought he was talking about Dumbledore.
I've only ever watched the films and only recently started the books.
@@RickyBaxt3r Yeah it's understandable to think that - we're meant to believe he's talking about Dumbledore just like he's leading the other Death Eaters to believe the same thing. The whole sixth movie is leading us to conclude Snape is a bad guy, but what we learn in this movie is that Snape never actually deceived Dumbledore so it allows you to reassess what he said back then. It could have just been a lie, but when you think about it he's not really lying because he _has_ deceived one of the greatest wizards of all time, just not the one we thought he meant in the sixth movie.
I like the detail of saying *_"one of_* the greatest wizards" because if he is talking about Voldemort then this wording allows room for Dumbledore to be even better than Voldemort in Snape's opinion.
@@sam_c95 Man my man snape is so fucking smart. His powers could also rival voldemorts powers, such wasted potential
@@sam_c95 He couldn't have said "deceived **the** greatest wizard", or Bellatrix would have wondered, 'you deceived our master?! What do you mean?' But acknowledging that Dumbledore is **a** great wizard is fine.
@@wwoods66 Ahhh true, it works both ways.
The part where Ginny screams when Voldemort announces Harry dead is touching, no doubt. But in the book its McGonagal who let's out a gut wrenching scream, showing just how much of an impact Harry's death has on everyone. Ginny screaming is the obvious choice - Harry's the man she loves. McGonagal screaming is heart breaking.
Welp, time to reread the books!
Yes, McGonagal's scream is way more impactful, considering how calm and composed she usually is, even in difficult situations.
It always hit me hard as well. McGonagall was always my favorite adult in the story. Everyone always talks about how Molly practically adopted Harry. So did McGonagall. She's not the type of person to show favorites but she does in very specific situations show that she cares for Harry as more than a regular student. As a teacher's kid, this is how a lot of parents treat there kids at school. Especially if they are directly their teacher. Sometimes the are even more strict and harsh to their kids.
So McGonagall screaming always hit me. This is also the woman that Harry legitimately used a unforgivable curse for. Just because a person insulted and spat at her.
Don't mess with Harry's mother figures
@@britlitsch6571 I always loved their relationship. One of my favorite moments is, when in the books, Harry goes to McGonagall and asks her if she could sign the paper for Hogsmeet for him. I would never consider asking something like that my homeroom teacher. He clearly sees her as very, very close. Something like a mother. He spends most of his time in Hogwarts, as much as he can, so McGonagall is most of the time his legal guardian. She is the exact opposite of Petunia or the Dursleys in general.
They are loud, noisy. They give everything to Dudley and treat him like an angel. They are unfair and full of bitterness and hate.
McGonagall is calm, soft. She is strict, but she raises her students with fairness and tries to teach the children something. She is there when the children needs her and she listens. She truly cares for them and I think Harry always geeked the big difference between the two. McGonagall is the one who stands up for him, but also gives him fair punishments if needed so, just as good parent should.
One could say Hagrid was also kind of a motherfigur for Harry, but I would say McGonagall and Molly would beat Hagrid.
@@britlitsch6571 Yeah I was about to mention that "spit on" situation but you did it for me. Thanks for that BTW. I mean she WAS the one who bought harry his first broom too. As a reward for impressing her in flight training.
Obviously she wanted Harry to have every possible advantage , but the gesture was very appreciated. And touching.
Fun fact: in the first film Snape asks Harry “ What would I get if I added powdered root of asphodel to an infusion of wormwood?” According to Victorian Flower Language, asphodel is a type of lily meaning ‘My regrets follow you to the grave’ and wormwood means ‘absence’ and also typically symbolised bitter sorrow. If you combined that, it meant ‘I bitterly regret Lily’s death’.... wormwood is said to also be used for protection so it could be "on Lily's grave I will protect you" either way Now every time I watch HP I tear up at that line.... when I first watched it I thought Snape was just being a douche knowing full well harry wouldn't know the answers but turns out nope. He was basically telling Harry he cared about his mother (yes I know harry wouldn't have known either way but it was something Snape needed to say for his own sake)
That's not fun at all.
Fun fact? This just broke me.
@@nadabouaafia9766 Finally. Somebody who gets the idea that some facts are just not fun.
@@eatsmylifeYT It's not that deep, just a phrase. Relax.
@@Anonymous-ve7pi No, it is. KMA.
"McGonnegal fired first", not only that, but I think Snape only did defensive maneuvers and knocked out the Carrow twins (death eaters behind him). You could see a hurt look on his face when she steps in. Just great acting.
Yeah, if you slow down the scene you can see Snape throwing McGonagall’s offensive spells backwards with his wand and knocking out the Carrows.
@@tomn6800 And Snape picking up the Carrow's wands before he flies away. (He is the only wizard besides Valdemort seen flying/able to fly). Edit: Per the Books.
@@LindaRobbinsStraitfever can’t Bellatrix, Lucius and other death eaters fly using that smoke cloud thing? They used that in Order of the Phoenix and Half Blood Prince when they destroyed that bridge in London.
@@quesoturtle739 Only in the movies. In the books only Snape and Voldemort could do it.
@@quesoturtle739 ya snape was on dumbledore/voldemorts level and could fly without a broom. the movies let everyone do it almost lol order of the phoenix had some white shit and all the deatheaters could do the black smoke stuff. Flying without a broom was special, gives less screen time to moving when you give everyone flying lol Casting spells without saying whatever magic words was also not something everyone could just do, just not on the level of unaided flight.
In Dumbledore's defence, he knew that Harry wouldn't die. This is something that wasn't shown in the movies but in "The Goblet of Fire" after facing Voldemort, Harry tells Dumbledore that Voldemort used his (Harry's) blood to obtain his new body. Then, and I quote: "For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore’s eyes". That look of triumph is explained in that King Cross dream/vision/limbo were Dumbledore explains that since Voldemort used Harry's blood, which had his mother's protection in it, it made it impossible for Voldemort to kill Harry.
To add to this, what Voldemort killed that night in the forest, was his own horcrux within Harry. That was the little dying gross creature you saw in the king's cross limbo that Dumbledore said was nothing anyone could help.
Even without the whole blood thing, the elder wand would not kill its master. Harry would live either way.
@@Kramer0083 I think the answer is all of the above.
@@Kramer0083 if you pick apart the series it really starts to fall apart. The deathly hallows were essentially worthless in the long run. Harry doesn't even use the invisibility cloak, despite it being super useful. He drops the resurrection stone in the woods and leaves it there for some Smeagle type character to probably find, and the elder wand gets snapped in half and thrown into a ravine. The whole wand allegiance thing is kind of a mess and the love protection thing is just nonsense, I mean shouldn't everybody have love protection as long as they have family who love them? All that said I still really enjoy this series.
@@Kramer0083 The"master of death" thing is just a story for kids. The deathly hallows are just very powerful objects created by the brothers of the tail. But nobody can be prevented from death. If a random deatheater had killed Harry he would have die, master of death or not. That’s one the many mistakes Voldemort did: wanting to kill Harry himself.
Jen during Sorcerer’s Stone: “I don’t trust Marilyn Manson.”
Jen now: “I knew Snape was good the whole time! I love his character.”
So NOW she puts some respect on his name. Alan Rickman truly was a legendary actor.
I teared up at the scene of Snape dying, not just because it was Snape but because of Alan himself having since passed..he really portrayed Snape really well..
The man nails everything he does and it impresses me to no end.
"We haven't seen Lord of the Rings, yet"
Oh my. I didn't know what was in the works :)
lookin forward to that :)
Thats gonna be long, especially with Hobbit as well. And the new tv show coming out as well.
I was so hyped when i heard that :D
Holden already did it with Matt, I can't wait to see Jen's reaction
@@denizkenger52 unless...you know...you don't count The Hobbit as part of LOTR.
Harry Potters first and last words about Snape
“Who is that?”
“The bravest man I have ever known”
Also Snape's last words "You have your mothers eyes"
Snape was a cowardly bully who wanted another man's wife. He was a stalker. Snape was a great character, powerful wizard but a lousy teacher.
@@joeyshofner639 Snape was a bully??😑
Snape
Snape was who deserve meet with Harry when he use this trash stone and speak for awhile
not parents - Harry barely knew mom and dad ( only by others words)
not Lupin and even not Sirius - they have nothing to talk with
only Snape deserve it
and i very dissapointed
Jen would probably be happy to learn Harry and Ginny's daughter's middle name is actually "Luna"
The real hero for me was Neville, who got together with Luna. They should have been in that last 19 years later scene.
@@Fallopia5150 dude it was just some non sense writing in the movie script by writers. Luna married Newt Scamander's grandson
@@saquib9148 , Never read the books. Only going by what they chose to put in the films, and in the films Neville says he must find Luna because he was 'mad for her'.
@@Fallopia5150 they still didn't end up together.
@@Fallopia5150 Neville ended up with a hufflepuff called Hannah Abbott. Luna ended up with Newt Scamander's grandson Rolf Scamander.
LOTR PLEASE!
I second this….you can’t watch Harry Potter and not watch LOTR the progenitor of fantasy as we know it.
I third this!! LOTR is a must see!
Has to be extended version tho!
@@aarondavis9993 probably gonna be 6 episodes at the very least.
Extended editions
Macgonnal: "The dungeons will do"
Slytherin house:"...that's literally where we live."
So she was basically like, "You're grounded."
But they actually get locked up ina cell lol
@@Burstify In the movies yes. There's a deleted scene about it. In the books they were not taken to the dungeons but Minerva ordered that Slytherin house be the first to evacuate through room of requirement and tunnel connecting it with hogs head.
@@stefanbre92 In the books, don't the Slytherins come back to fight against Voldemort?
@@stefan4159 I don't think it is mentioned that any specific slytherin student fights against him. McGonagall allowed only students that are 17years old to stay if they wish. Since rest are underaged they had to leave (except Colin Creevey who snuck back in and died, although he was a Gryffindor). Crabe and Goyle stayed in the battle but they attacked Harry and Crabbe even died to his own spell (Fiendfyre). Malfoy and Goyle were saved by Harry and Ron and at that point i don't think Malfoy was fighting against anyone. But he also was no longer a student, he entered the battle with rest of Voldemorts forces.
Other Slytherins that were not fighting with Voldemort but were in the battle were Lucius and Narcissa who were just running around looking for Draco, and Professor Slughorn, who wasn't just against Voldemorts forces but he was actually fighting Voldemort himself along with Kingsley and McGonagall.
When they're in the astronomy tower and Dumbledore begs Snape "Please.", really has a different meaning when you know that it was set up. In order for Dumbledore to save Draco from having his soul ripped apart, Snape had to kill Dumbledore.
It was more of euthanasia, if you think about it. Dumblydorr and Snape knew the curse was terminal, but certain events had to be in place for his death to work strategically. The ultimate wizard’s chess Dumblydorr played.
@@agresticumbra the please was to protect draco from being a murderer. he could have killed himself at any moment, didn't really need euthanasia but was also dedicating as much time as he could to getting things prepared for voldemorts defeat. like op said, he didn't want that child to be forced to kill him.
@@mcdotterson4103 No, it was because Snape did not want to do it, you can see them arguing before Dumbledore and Harry leaves for the cave and Snape says he does not want to do this anymore, meaning this whole double agent thing. Therefor the "please"
"And my soul, Dumbledore? Mine?"
Well and if Snape wouldn‘t have killed Dumbledore, Snape would have be dead because of the Unbreakable Vow
RE: Wizards turning into ghosts
“Wizards can leave an imprint of themselves upon the earth, to walk palely where their living selves once trod,” said Nick miserably. “But very few wizards choose that path.”
“I was afraid of death,” said Nick softly. “I chose to remain behind. I sometimes wonder whether I oughtn’t to have… well, that is neither here nor there… in fact, I am neither here nor there…”
He gave a small sad chuckle. “I know nothing of the secrets of death, Harry, for I chose my feeble imitation of life instead.”
Any wizard can choose to return from that "Train Station" where Harry talked to Dumbledore, but only Harry could return normal and not as a ghost because he was the master of Death. But most Wizards don't choose to go this route, because it will never help your deepest desires and only leaves a fraction of your soul on earth, unable to go on
I cried so bad when they had that conversation. Because harry asked nick that question cause he's wondering if sirius is a ghost out there. My heart just shattered for him.
The final duel between Harry and Voldemort was also different in the books. They never fought all over the castle, Voldemort never bitch smacks Harry, and they dont duel outside alone. In the books they duel in the great hall (where the kids usually eat) in front of all of the other Hogwarts teachers and students. When Voldemort dies, he just falls to the floor dead. He does not turn to ash and fade away. He dies like a human, the ultimate slap in his face, since he believed he was more than human.
IMO the best line in the entire series is something like the curse rebounded on Voldemort and Tom riddle hit the floor. When he died he was just Tom again.
Yep, I preferred the book duel more for sure. The part that bothers me in the movie is when Harry pulls him off the ledge in an embrace. Just a bit too goofy for me. lol
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Yes! I was so mad they changed that! Voldemort is supposed to be fighting 3 people at the same time too, which I really wanted to see on screen!
Yup. Ironically, my favorite change from book to movies and least favorite are back to back. My least favorite is the final battle, that was so incredibly stupid (even if it looked good). Voldemort dying alone like a God goes against the entire meaning of his fall. Voldemort's solidarity was his comfort he pushed the boundaries of dark magic for the purposes of immortality further than anyone else to the point where he didnt even look human and saw himself above everyone else as he believed he was immortal. Yet despite all this, "Tom Riddle hit the ground with a mundane finality. Voldemort was dead, killed by his own rebounding killing curse and the Elder Wand soared high to hand of the master it would not kill." Tom Riddle died a human in the Great Hall to the Chosen One in front of everyone to see. Despite all his efforts to push himself to being immortal, at the end of the day, he is nothing but another wizard and everyone saw this. Yet in the move they completely go against this by him dying like an immortal and he combusts in the solidarity he always preferred.
My favorite change is Harry snapping the wand, it just makes a lot more sense. I get what he was trying to do by placing it in Dumbledore's Grave, and the symbolism of a natural death like Ignotus Peverell, but if somebody disarmed him in the future, they could then open Dumbledore's tomb, take the wand and be its true master. Snapping it just makes a ton more sense.
"Look at me" "you have your mother's eyes" always tear up when hearing that. Especially after knowing who Snape really is.
It's a truly great movie that is not only great when watched the first time but even better rewatching it.
I thought about that if I was in Harry’s shoes I would be trying not to blink staring into his eyes platonically as he dies since I have to make that clear for the comment s
It hit hard me because everyone and their mother has said those words to Harry, but Snape. And Snape is the most important for that line.
I loved the sheer disappointment on Holden's face when she told him what the comments said about Snape summoning the patronus last movie. Get it together peeps, we all know you know everything, but could you... just stay silent for more then 5 minutes?
Agreed but I would also say Holden smirking at the camera about Snape being evil or not in an earlier movie is hinting at spoilers about his character too. I also didn’t know she reads the comments herself 😬
@@whitewolf7005 she is always commenting on the comments lol
Yep
Hagrid being captured and being made to carry Harry’s body while sobbing always breaks my heart, both in the films and the books. You know how much he loves Harry and how much this must have broken him.
He brought harry to the dursleys if I remember correctly, so taking his "dead" body to hogwarts must've been traumatic for him.
There is a deleted scene of the Dursley’s leaving their house that’s very emotional. Petunia Dursley has a conversation with Harry saying how he didn’t just lose a mother that night but she also lost a sister, which was a very rare glimpse showing that she really did love her sister deep down. In the books or something they also talk about the reason why she truly “acted” like she hated Lily was because she wanted to go to Hogwarts and be a witch but was denied and it caused her to be depressed and resent her sister.
Also in that deleted scene Vernon makes a comment about Harry being worthless or something and Dudley stares at Vernon and then walks up to Harry and says that he doesn’t think Harry is worthless and hopes he stays safe. This was because he finally cares about Harry after he saved his life from the dementors and realized just how dangerous Harry’s life actually is.
The Vernon scene was actually Harry saying it about himself.
Dudley asked why Harry wasn't going with him, and Vernon tells Duddykins that Harry doesn't want to go.
Harry agrees, and then tells him he's a waste of space
Alan Rickman's performance as Snape holding the lifeless Lilly Potter, the woman he loved with his whole heart, was soooo damn good. The man was a true talent.
Reminded me of Faramir holding Eowyn in Return of the King
Rickman had some outstanding roles, especially as Snape, Hans Gruber in Die Hard and the character he played in Galaxy Quest
Yep
Also Fred’s death in the books was so heartbreaking, and it’s kind of breezed over in the movie. The books had so many more nuances that elevate the twins but the movies only captured parts of this
I hate how Ginny had no reaction to seeing her dead brother in front of her. I remember in the book, she was sobbing.
BOOK SPOILER ALERT
Especially when Percy just came back. I know it was kinda necessary for time constraints but I love the conflict between the Weasley family, only for tragedy to happen
Exactly, Fred making up with Percy and Ron witnessing it
@@endgame7856 Yeah that part was always weird to me.
Apparently one of the many scenes to be cut off, but this one because the actor reaction was too much heartbreak (irl twins after all) and didn't fit the fuzziness of the moment from Harry pov
Each wand has its own personality hence “The wand chooses the wizard”. Any wizard can use any wand for the most part but only a wand that is loyal to them will produce the best magic. Normal wands rarely change their allegiance, Draco’s going to Harry was a rare exception. The Elder wand specifically changes its allegiance whenever a wizard bests its previous owner, this is unique to that wand. Normally a wizard would not “lose” their wand by simply being disarmed.
I always kind of thought that when Ollivander said that "I sense its allegiance has changed" about Draco's wand, that maybe that was also a hint that Draco himself is also not loyal to Voldemort and potentially more loyal to Harry at this point. I mean thats just my own meaning from it, it probably wasnt intended.
@@simmerplayer2747 love this 🙏🏻
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@@simmerplayer2747 I thought this as well, but i think it serves a dual purpose in that regard. Yes, Draco is conflicted about what to do but at the same time he was then the rightful owner of the Elder Wand. If the wand truly is its own sentient thing, I would assume that once it knows its owner has another wand (and it being the Elder Wand) it wouldnt be as loyal to that owner afterwards.
@@charliecranston5 One issue with that tho is that by the time Ollivander read Draco's wand, Harry had already disarmed Draco and the Elder Wand's allegiance had changed to Harry. So Draco wasnt the owner of the Elder Wand at that point in any way, he had never physically possessed the elder wand to begin with and he was no longer the rightful owner of it either.
There's a deleted scene which is basically a proper redemption scene for Draco. When Neville is giving the speech, as soon as Harry wakes up, Draco runs and gives Harry his wand which is also the reason why the Malfoy family runs away after Harry wakes up.
*POTTAH*
yeah people bring this up way too damn much. Not everyone deserves to be redeemed, and not everyone NEEDS to be redeemed. THAT'S the point of Draco's character. It's an important lesson to teach.
They walk away because Narcissa betrayed Voldermort as she lied to him and also because the Malfoys didnt lik voldy by the end
When Alan Rickman was cast as Snape, the author told him about his love for Lily. So his approach towards Snape’s character was always with this info in mind.
Importantly, she told him before even the later books were published, so he would know the secret and subtly include it in his performance.
@@scott4538
*Allan Rickman himself always denied knowing anything about Snape's feelings for Lilly.*
According to him all Rowling told him was that there was more to Snape than you'd think, hinting that Snape wasn't only "the bad guy".
That was just enough for him to want to play Snape, because hi was sick of playing the bad guy in movies by then. His dream was to play a great romantic character. So boy, did he get his dying wish! Just not the way he'd expected.
@@Keyboardje Unpopular opinion of mine: Alan Rickmans greatest romantic character role was Colonel Brandon in Sense and Sensibility. The moment, when Marianne is ill and he is standing outside her room and Elinor comes out of the room and he says: "Give me some occupation or I shall run mad." -gives me goosebumps everytime I watch. And then their interactions, when she is recovered. This is a leading romantic role - In Harry Potter he is playing a nasty teacher and a double agent. Yes Snapes true allegiance is with Harry, because of Lily, but Alan Rickman has not really interactions with the actress playing Lily - the romantic moments in Snapes childhood are all played by child actors (who are adorable by the way). Snape was one of his greatest roles still.
@@barbarabenoit3667 Agreed on Colonel Brandon. Love. Love. Love.
One brilliant part was Harry using the name Tom. It's a great moment that shows Harry doesn't fear him anymore and is addressing him as the vulnerable human that he is, not the scary evil lord that he wanted people to see him as.
Yea, Dumbledore always called him Tom, which annoyed Voldemort and he felt disrespected, because Dumbledore should'Ve used his "new" name. So in Harry doing that, that must've pissed him off very much :D
It's weird to know they're distantly related though....another family show, much like Star Wars, dark vs light.
@@paulcurran4786 With a small number of wizards/witches, and many families preferring inbreeding to mingling with Muggles, isn't it a given that almost all of them are related to each other at this point?
@@gf1917 both are half-blood though....them being from the same family line, directly related to the 3 Peverell brothers isnt something ever mentioned in the movies....worth people who haven't read, or have no intention of reading the books knowing IMO
Jenn: How Potter survived?
Holden: Resurrection stone got him back
One of the main keypoints of the resurrection stone being: It doesn't bring anyone back to life
And that is why you probably might want to read the books some time.
P.S. It is one of the rules of the Potter world that death is a pretty permanent thing and the whole Voldemort's story ark is about it and his fear of death.
Harry survived, because Avada Kedavra does not harm the physical body, but instantly crushes the soul. Being a horcrux, he possessed 2 souls at the same time: 1 - His own, 2 - shard of Voldemort's soul. So by casting Avada Kedavra Voldemort himself killed the last part of his own soul.
yeah the resurrection stone is pretty useless.
Thanks. I knew the stone was not the reason he lived but was not aware of the Avada Kedavra curse crushing the soul. Is that noted in the book or did you get that from another source?
Actually it didn't kill Harry because the elder wand belonged to him which was used against him by Voldemort and just ended up killing Voldemort's soul instead.
Also, Voldemort, in using Harry's blood to make his new body, also kept Harry's mother's love protection alive too, if I remember correctly.
@@claytoncourtney1309 The soul crushing thing is totally made up. The reason the curse didn't work on Harry is because the Elder Wand didn't want to murder its owner.
What nobody knows who hasnt read the books : By sacrificing himself in the woods, he has put the same love protection spell on everyone fighting in hogwarts. He after the scene in the woods they could not lose anymore.
Harry Explained this to voldemort in the books right before voldemort dies.
That is the one detail that bugs me that was left out. Voldemort's spells were not as effective on people. He was weakened due to Harry's sacrifice.
Yeah but I don’t think the sacrificial protection works the same when put on that amount of people compared to just one person as lily did with Harry.
Why? Because even after all the horcruxes were destroyed and Voldemort aimed his wand at Neville to kill him for killing Nagini, Harry casted a shield charm to block Neville. Although Avada Kedavra cant be blocked so kind if a plothole here but anyway I guess an explanation to it is the fact that they were under this protection and maybe it helped weaken the Avada Kedavra casted at Neville and did make it blockable, or maybe it was blockable by Harry’s shield charm because the elder wand didn’t cast any magic opposing Harry’s spells, but anyway once past this topic if how it got blocked, it brings us to this new question which is “if they have sacrificial protection, why would Harry block the Avada Kedavra knowing sacrificial protection should make the spell rebound back to Voldemort, and he wouldn’t survive this time because no horcruxes left?”
The answer would be, either the sacrificial protection isnt as strong on multiple people that it would’ve killed them instead of rebounding or Harry just did it because he didn’t want the rebounding Avada Kedavra to damage or kill anyone else in the proximity since the night when Harry was a baby, it did damage the surroundings of the room. There’s also the prophecy saying only Harry could defeat Voldemort so maybe, believing this, he did everything to make the prophecy true by protecting others until he challenged Voldemort to defeat him himself, just to not risk anything and put faith in the prophecy, which ended up not being right anyway because Voldemort didn’t fully die due to that one soul piece being far too damaged to move onto death and he is stuck between life and death forever so that “one must die at the hand if the other” thing is wrong unless you count that one to refer to soul pieces which harry has killed but that wouldnt be special to harry because others have killed the souls of Voldemort contained in horcruxes as well.
This got long, i hope my original point to why the sacrificial protection wouldnt have same effects to a group of people as it would for one person was understood.
@@nate2797 The stupidest asspull plot point bugs you? lmao Glad it was left out because it was stupid. It's literally a plot armor spell that activated automatically as someone chose to sacrifice themselves.
@@denizkenger52 it’s literally what harry said in the book bro
@@denizkenger52 not every Avada Kedavra can kill. Only perfected spell can do that (including even killing multiple people at once as well). Fake Moody taught us that - even if whole class pulled their wands at him, they wouldn't be able to harm him with it. Same goes with Crucio when Harry casted it on Bella - which only felt like a major stinging pain, not proper spell.
Voldy not only used borrowed wand, but he used the wand against the shield itself and used it against Harry's will. Then you had ultimate boosted shield Protego. It couldn't work.
This was the same reason why Harry stayed at Dursleys - their blood relation keeping the shield on extreme levels. Voldemort could only touch Harry cause they had the same blood after the ritual, but this was a new love sacrifice - keeping Voldy from being part of it.
One of my favorite things re: Harry's "death" is that you can either choose to believe he survived because Voldemort took Harry's blood and allowed Lily's protection to tether him to life...or you can believe that Harry had united all 3 Hallows at the time and was therefore "master of death". I think either interpretation (or both) is valid.
As for whether or not Dumbledore knew Harry would die, the books mention a "gleam of triumph" in Dumbledore's eye at the end of Goblet of Fire when Harry returns with Cedric's body and tells him about Voldemort's resurrection in the graveyard--specifically about using Harry's blood for the resurrection. I don't think it's ever explicitly spelled out, but a lot of people think this is when Dumbledore saw there might be a loophole that would enable Harry to survive the destruction of the horcrux inside him.
The Resurrection Stone doesn‘t work like that, it is only to speak to loved ones once, when they are dead, this is what the guy in the Story of the Deathly Hallows with the Stone didn‘t knew
There's a third interpretation, which I thought was the most obvious one: that the Killing Curse can only take one life at a time, and that Voldemort's Horcrux essentially tanked the hit for Harry. That would seem to be the most literal option, the more metaphysical ones being the ones you described.
@@Pharo02 the master of death would be the owner of all 3 Deathly Hallows. He was already the owner of the cloak of invisibility, left to him by his father, he was left the Resurrection Stone by Dumbledore himself to open moments before he faced death, and he was the rightful owner of the Elder wand having bested Malloy at Malloy Manor . Harry was able to choose then to return, or move on.
@@angiepeterson1282 I never realised this as a possibility, always thought it was because of the blood Voldemort took from him. This is a very plausible theory, however there is a slight catch. In the books Harry drops the resurrection stone before entering the forest fully knowing he wouldn't be able to find it again so when he was killed by Voldemort he was no longer in possession of all of them.
Dumbledore referred to a double bond between Harry and Tom. This alway pointed to the blood theory for me as it refers to a state of being instead of a capability like the stone would give.
I love that in the duel between Minerva and Snape, he deflects her blasts into the Carrows behind him.
Hermione and Ron's Kiss is much better in the book imo.
Snape takes their wands too
If you're ever up for it, all of the questions you had after the movie (why and how Harry became an accidental Horcrux) were explained in high detail in the books. J.K Rowling did an amazing job at wrapping up every loose end and really adding so much depth which were left out of the movies. There are so many intricate details that add so much to the characters. An example of this in the movie was the duel between Mcgonnagall and Snape. Since Snape was good all along, he allowed Mcgonnagall to win. He did not send curses back to protect the students. If you watch the Scene, he blocks the spells Mcgonnagall sends at him and relays them to the death eaters behind him, actually taking them out. A small detail which foreshadows and hints at Snapes true nature.
Also, his hesitation when McGonagall steps up to fight him. It's subtle, but he lowers his wand for just a second and almost looks hurt.
Did Snape took the Deatheater wands after he left?
@@waterboy4512 Well he certainly hopped to logical locations for the wands to land prior to leaving. It's not mentioned in the books, but in the movies it seems highly likely.
@@2001herne I must've seen them 100 times I never noticed that! Thanks for pointing that out!
That moment when it all starts to come together for Jen was beautiful. That's what these videos are all about. That's the magic of this series.
(Snape dying, and then his memories.)
Holdens reaction when he realizes that someone spoiled about the Patronus at the lake…guess somebody doesn‘t know what first time watching means
Or doesn't care :P
I couldn't believe gow pissed off i was...spoiled best best plot point for her
In the books Snape really doesn’t like Harry, because he, according to Snape, remembers James’ arrogance and rule-breaking, but he protects him in honor of Dumbledore and mainly to honor Lily
Snape is definitely not the villain, but I still don't get why so many people praise him so much for his actions - he still bullied a child. of course he was brave and honorable
for giving his life for the cause, but i still have issues with so many people wanting to redeem his entire character
@@lillyd589 I think that the main thing is that he was a convicted death eater in the past, he truly supported Voldemort. Only when he threatened Lily that he switched sides and became an ally to Dumbledore, for me that’s why he can’t be seen as a straight up hero. I understand why people get so mad at him for the way he treated Harry but you have to think that in many times Harry was indeed breaking the rules but for “good reasons” that we only knew because we read the books and Snape, as a character from the book, couldn’t know this
@@pedrofreitas761 he wasnt mean to only Harry. he is just straight up a terrible person who did one good thing.
@@pedrofreitas761 I get you... but consider this; Neville Longbottom; a child with heavy problems to do magic when he enters Hogwarts (his familly even believed at some point he could be a squib) and HEAVILY traumatized for having his parents gone mad by a curse; a child with true horrors in his past... his DEEPEST fear when he is 13 years old his master of potions; Snape; as shown in the scene with the boggart.
This is because Snape CONSTANTLLY bullies not ony Harry, but Neville, Hermione and allmost any other non-Sitherin student he has ever taugth; to the point of allmost traumatizing them. Apart of being a racist sadist who would enjoy torturing his enemies (he did not simpy will to kill Sirius; but rather let his soulto be kissed by dementors; said to be excruciating; yet Severus wantedto see it)...he eventually did help 'the good guys' and made huge sacrifices for them; yeah. He was a brave man... but a piece of shit nevertheless.
He is a great and well written character; but he is not a good man at all.
Even he's love for Lilly is extrmelly one sided and creepy if you pass over all the platonic glitter... when he asked Dumbedore for help, he clearlly asked for Lilly to be saved; ignoring James and Harry; as the ony thing Severus wanted was her; not her hapiness... only when Dumbedore got furious, did Snape correct himsef and beg for the protection of the whole fmailly...
...not to mention that it was Snape the one who spied Dumbedore to obtain the Profecy and the one who gave it to Voldy; not caring who's child would we murdered; and ony regreting it when he reaised his action woud kill 'his' Lilly... by the way; Lilly and Jmaes had been in the Order of the Phoenix for moore than a year by the time the Dark Lord tageted them; so they where allready quite in perill before so; and Snape had been a Death Eater since he left Hogwarts; so at least three years by that time... yet he NEVER asked for Lilly's protection before he was the direct responsible of their impending death... soooo; no; great character; full of flaws and contradictions; great spy; a hero... but a horrible person.
@@snuffy357 not just one good thing lol but I agree with your sentiment
32:00 Nope. The Resurrection stone didn't work that way. When Harry died, he had already dropped the stone in the forest. He only used it to see his loved ones.
When Voldemort used the killing curse, he actually only killed the piece of his own soul within Harry. He didn't touch Harry's soul. Harry was still under the protection of his mother's love. Voldemort's soul wasn't. So the curse only killed the thing that wasn't being protected. The horcrux.
Harry's willingness to die to save the rest of the people in the castle was the same selfless loving sacrifice that his mother had for him; but for the rest of the school. That's why the tide had turned in favor of the heroes after. They were all under Harry's new love protection spell.
Edit: The reason Harry couldn't know about his own death was because he had to believe he was actually going to die in order for the "love protection" to work. If he knew that it would only kill the horcrux, then Harry wouldn't be sacrificing anything, and the protection wouldn't take effect. Dumbledore definitely knew that Harry wasn't actually going to die. He knew that he would still be protected by his mother's magic. Dumbledore knew that it would just kill Voldemort's soul inside Harry. I don't think Dumbledore was just going to let Harry die just because. He knew what he was doing. He had it all planned out from the beginning.
Perfect explanation!!
Also to be precise as to why his mother's protection really protected him, it was because voldemort had taken harry's blood (in 4th part), and since Lily's enchantment and protection continued to exist, so did harry. It was a really short description in the book and I have seen many people forget or miss it
Yes, the Resurrection Stone doesn‘t bring people back it only brings back their ghost and you can talk to them once!
Voldemort only killed his own Horcrux which means the person who is a Horcrux would need to die two times and what is also funny is no one could kill him except Voldemort, for example Bellatrix Lestrange could use the Killing Curse on Harry, but he will not die :D
@@Pharo02 I am not sure if that's the case. I'd imagine if a person is horcrux, and killing curse is performed on them, both the person and horcrux would end. But harry survived because his mother's blood still existed in Voldemort, which also bound harry to life
@@passerby6695 Only Voldemort can destroy his own horcruxes with a spell
I don’t think it was covered in the movies but Neville was incredibly important. He could have easily been marked instead of Harry. There were two kids who fit the prophecy and it was Neville and Harry. It’s one of the reasons Neville’s parents were tortured.
Neville’s parents were tortured to get information on what happened to Voldemort, not because of the prophecy.
The prophecy was more accurate to Harry than Neville. Harry was born 31st of July whereas Neville was 30th July which means Harry is literally born as the 7th month dies.
Yes that’s true, the prophecy states “the dark lord will mark him as his equal” and Voldemort chose Harry instead of Neville because Harry is a half blood just like him. It could’ve been Neville but Voldemort chose Harry.
Yep
Harry was able to survive for this reason:
In the books, on “the platform”, Dumbledore explains to Harry that when Voldemort regenerated his body in book 4, he used Harry’s blood. This meant that when Voldemort used the killing curse on Harry, he killed the part of his own soul, but because Voldemort was still alive, keeping Lily’s sacrifice alive, Harry was still protected.
Whenever I watch this last movie, I always think about how scared shitless those Death Eaters must have been of Harry. The guy survived two killing curses and killed Voldemort.
Especially bc Harry became an auror. Probably hunted them all down
Harry lived through THREE attempts to kill him with Avada Kedavra:
-as a baby, just after his mother's murder in Godric's Hollow
-as a child, during a wand-duel in the Riddle cemetery
-as an adult, during another wand-duel after the Battle of Hogwarts
Harry went on to be an auror; imagine ANY dark wizard/witch seeing the auror coming for them being Harry Potter!
why, harry didnt survive any of them on his own accord
@@chris...9497I would say technically 4 times at start of deathly hallows when Voldemort is flying next to him and fires the killing curse Harry’s wand protects him
Hey Holden the reason Goyle was able to conjure that much fire is because of the forbidden spell he cast. Fiendfyre, by its nature, is an uncontrollable fire that consumes all, and once you cast it you have no control over it. Also, Hermione knew the spell and knew it was powerful enough to destroy horcruxes, but never attempted it because of how dangerous the spell is
Also Holden Harry didn't die and come back because of the resurrection stone. He survived, while the curse killed the horcrux in Harry because of two things:
Harry's own blood was used to create Voldemort's body. This allowed Voldemort to bypass the protection afforded to Harry by Lily's sacrifice, but it also ensured that Harry can theoretically survive as long as Voldemort himself lives.
Voldemort was unwittingly trying to use Harry's own wand against him. Harry was the rightful Master of the Elder Wand(having won it from Draco, who unwittingly won it from Dumbledore in HBP). Thus, Voldemort's curse was deflected back to him when it met the spell from the wand Harry was using.
Also a fun side note, by the end of the story, Harry becomes the fabled Master of Death by being the owner of the three Deathly Hallows. It is suggested that you are immortal when you own all three hallows, but never really confirmed to be true or not.
You are definitely not immortal by having all 3 hallows. Not only it it just a fairy tale, but to be the Master of Death means that you've accepted that death is inevitable. Harry and the third brother both "greet death as an old friend".
It's been quite a while since I've read the books, but I'm pretty confident Fiendfyre could be controlled, it just takes some serious spell knowledge to do. For instance Voldemort at the end of Order of the Phoenix likely used Fiendfyre, but was powerful enough to control it.
@@fir3gaming664 yes you can control it you just have to be EXTREMELY powerful and have an immense amount of concentration and practice with it, Voldemort was one of the few wizards able to use it and control it with great proficiency.
And also that at the time, Harry had more than one soul in him. If the Killing Curse kills one soul, then that would mean Harry was only _mostly_ dead.
Crabbe cast the Fiendfyre not Goyle. Also, you can control Fiendfyre, its just that Crabbe wasnt paying attention when the Carrows told him how to stop it.
We need a shirt with Holden’s look to camera face with the phrase “Who’s to say?” underneath it
Take my 💰!!!!!
31:36 Draco's mom asks Harry if Draco is still alive. Harry does his best to nod without moving enough for Voldemort to realize that he survived the killing curse. Draco's mom is so grateful for Draco being alive and Harry telling her about it that she lies to Voldemort and tells him that Harry is dead.
38:23 Not all wands work that way, it depends on the wand. Wands with a core of dragon heartstring are more prone to change allegiance, while ones with unicorn hair will never perform as well for anyone that isn't the original owner. In particular, the elder wand is probably the wand that is the most prone to changing allegiance in the entire series because all it cares about is the person who disarmed / defeated it's previous user. The wand chooses the wizard.
My fav Jen reaction to date. Don't worry, Snape isn't an underrated character in the slightest. Neither is the marvelous Alan Rickman who plays him so so utterly perfectly.
Agree, RIP Alan Rickman, surely the most iconic actor portraying Villains in movies ever. Bringing that comedic edge whilst maintaining being the bad guy. That’s a rare gift.
I believe, in the book, Harry uses the Elder Wand to fix his own wand before destroying it.
He puts it back in Dumbledores grave
@@takemeaway285 Intact ... which means it can be reactivated by anyone who defeats Harry in the course of his career as an auror. Bad move.
Should have been: use it for wand repair, _then_ break it, then reinter the pieces.
@@wwoods66 I think it could have been reactivated even if harry isn't defeated (maybe after harrys death). Like, no one knows how Gregorovitch got the wand but we can assume he didn't win it from previous owner. Perhaps he was following the trail and just found it. Grindewald later steals it (doesn't defeat Gregorovitch, maybe stuns him a bit with elder wand before actually winning it). So Grindewald used it no problem. It is implied that he controlled it completely, but even if we assume he didn't have 100% control of it since Dumbledore won it, Dumbledore did have 100% control. So what I am saying is that the elder wand, like any other wand that chooses a wizzard when buying it in the shop can probably choose the owner if the owner is skillful enough and is a match to it. Especially if the previous owner (in this case harry) dies of natural causes without being defeated. Then wand has no allegiance so it just chooses another.
Also, there are speculations that the owner of Elder wand must be someone that saw death, since the core of wand is Testral hair and testrals can only be seen by people who saw death.
@@takemeaway285 I has been a while since I read the books, thanks for the correction.
He returns it to Dumbledore´s tomb.
Harry is the master of death. At the end of the movie, he owns the Invisibility Cloak, has the Resurrection Stone, and is master of the Elder Wand. He literally has all of the Deathly Hallows.
Well movie does not really focus on the deathly hallows even though it is the title of the movie. It is a huge plotline in the books and shows us how Harry is a better man than Dumbledore.
@@sudhirraghav2157 damn I wish dived into that more I really liked the hallows
well, no.
he lost the stone
@@thechh8297 I didn't say he possessed all of them at the same time. I said he was master of all of them at the same time. He claims ownership of all three deathly hallows at the same time.
Just because he dropped the stone doesn't mean he doesn't know where it is. It also doesn't mean that it doesn't still belong to him. Just because it's not on his person doesn't mean he doesn't still claim ownership of it.
When you leave your house, the things inside your house are still yours.
@@Saimeren well, if you dropped something very small in a random area in the middle of a forest and left it, I really doubt you would ever find it again.
Even if you did find it again I absolutely wouldn't believe you if you said it was yours.
If I found it first, I wouldn't believe you if you said it was yours, and I definitely wouldn't give it back just because you said so.
Can you truly be considered the master -the owner- of something you don't actually have in your possession or keeping, which you might never find again? Something, if someone else found first, they would then assume mastery of the moment they picked it up?
The character of snape was really thought of from the beginning, when in first year first potions class, snape bullies Harry with questions, it is a secret message about Lily 🥰
The first thing Snape asks Harry is “Potter! What would I get if I added powdered root of asphodel to an infusion of wormwood?” According to Victorian Flower Language, asphodel is a type of lily meaning ‘My regrets follow you to the grave’ and wormwood means ‘absence’ and also typically symbolised bitter sorrow. If you combined that, it meant ‘I bitterly regret Lily’s death’.
Woaaaah, that's some deep cut my friend, kudos
What is Victorian flower language??
The PETA joke was gold "they'd probably kill the dragon and say they saved it"
The most shocking thing about this entire Harry Potter reaction "We haven't seen Lord of the Rings yet"....words cannot describe what I'm feeling right now!
80% of indians havent watched lotr either if it helps
The disarming of a wizard resulting in the wand changing allegiance is only applied to the elder wand, the other mention of wand's allegiances is more to with how the wand chooses the wizard, almost as if the wand is its own entity within own morals.
Yeah well Draco’s own wand changed allegiance pretty easily as well. Literally Harry uses muggle way to take his wand and the wand changes allegiance. I dont like this, he gains both elder wand and draco’s wand’s allegiance by wrestling draco’s wand off him, not even besting him magically.
The wand chooses its wielder. The Elder Wand chooses the strong. So if you disarm the master of the Elder Wand, it chooses you to be its new master.
People use other people’s wands all the time through out the series. The difference is the only the master of the Elder Wand can use the Elder Wand to it’s full power of being the most powerful wand in the world. It’s specific to the Elder Wand.
Goyle is using fiendfyre, a living fire that can cause unimaginable damage and is one of the only things that can destroy a horcrux. He was taught how to by the Carrows (Death Eater Teachers) but never worked out how to master it.
Having read the books, I never understood how that is just a thing wizards can do (especially goyle who is generally thick, although they say he put more effort into dark magic).
Does it need special components to create, or can wizards creat nigh-unstoppable cursed fire on a whim? Even if it’s so hard to control, you’d think death eaters would use it more often.
It seems very strong given how difficult horcruxes are to destroy. I’m probably overthinking it
@@anonymouszebra1239 I would think it's probably very hard to control and even trying to learn it might cause your own death so it's an overall almost impossible spell to master without killing yourself first.
@@anonymouszebra1239 its strong because its like a never ending fire, so unless the caster knows how to end the spell it will just continue on (you can see goyle flicking his wand trying to stop it) thats also why it can destroy horcruxes. and probably also why death eaters dont use it often, its an advance spell not because its hard to cast but because its hard to stop
@@sharandeep9816 fair enough. I wonder if HP lore includes cities burnt down due to a single teenager attempting this 💀
@@lolilora thanks for the explanation! What a world ey
The timing of Jen's "I mean he's not just gonna-" when Snape died was so perfect. I am both laughing and crying idk how to feel
Actually laughed out loud when Jen said “Snacking on Snape”. People on the train looking at me like I am crazy! lol
She said it with SUCH dejection too lol
I think Holden should really read the books. They're such an easy read, even more so if you already like the franchise. And they add SO much more value and meaning to the lore. It's not about being more or less of an expert on HP, it's really about the amount of enjoyment he would clearly have reading them. The reading effort would be so low both in terms of time (compared to other books) and difficulty (again, so easy to read, the writing style just make it so easy to just go page after page), that it's a total win win scenario in term of enjoyment over effort ratio :)
Well-stated. The books aren't just the films with more lore and details. They're like the films but you get to spend ten times longer on each great moment and each finale. I think Holden has already read the first two, but I would definitely recommend he gives the third one a shot since, like the films, that's where it starts to pick up.
Or the audio books. You know, for those long road trips.
Yep
I think the way they revealed Snape's backstory to us hit me on a personal level
Who else thought snape was evil when he killed dumbledore?
@@RikudoSennin47 I didn't see that scene, nor got that far in that movie to get hit by THAT scene like you guys must've
At the time I honestly had no idea.
I reread the chapter where Snape killed Dumbledore many times trying to find something that meant Snape hadn't, in reality, killed him. Or something that meant that Dumbledore wasn't truly dead.
The twist at the end of book 7 was a genius move imo.
@@RikudoSennin47 not me. I was hoping it wasn’t so because he’s my favorite along with Lucius Malfoy. But when the snake killed me, I couldn’t believe he died & it solidified that he was actually evil & it made me feel like a fool because this was a sign that his story was fully ending & then the flashback happened & I was so happy. But I was think that he did some type of switching bodies spell last moment when he killed dumbledore cause the movie he dies it ends with his bird in the sky & I was hoping he put he made Dumbledore switch bodies with his bird & so I stayed in denial for 3 movies till I realized that he was actually gone-gone.
Another little tidbit is that Harry had one of the Deathly Hallows all along. His invisibility cloak is more special than other ones in the wizarding world. It was an heirloom that was left to him by his father, held on to by Dumbledore and that was his gift to Harry for his first Christmas in the castle. It never fades like normal ones, which start to become visible/opaque over time as they age. His even stops/resists a spell at one point in the books, so it’s not just invisibility, it’s downright protective and resistant to all magic. And, if we’re to believe the legend, that cloak was passed down from generation to generation, so Harry may be a descendent of that third brother, who greeted Death as an old friend when his time came. In the book, Harry wears it into the forest when he goes to meet Voldemort. He walks into the clearing and then takes it off. He chooses to greet death head on, surrenders the last thing keeping him safe. Little fun fact.
It gave me chills while reading this!
That's awesome!
Also when walking into the forest to meet Voldemort, Harry had the resurrection stone and had the allegiance of the elder wand... so technically Harry was the master of ALL of the deathly hallows which according to the story made one the master of death. When he didn't fight back and greeted death while mastering all of the deathly hallows that is why imo Harry was resurrected. I believe that Voldemort did kill Harry cause you had to destroy the vessel in order to destroy the soul. But Harry didn't stay dead because of the deathly hallows.
@@antoinettefinner3488 oh wow, that's a really intriguing theory. Definitely makes Harry's resurrection make 100% sense now
@@antoinettefinner3488 it's confirmed in the books that the reason he survived the last Avada Kadavra is due to Voldemort being resurrected using Harry's blood that still had Lily's protection in it. It meant as long as Voldemort lived that protection stayed and as such he couldn't kill Harry.
@@davidhughes5842 This may be long so bare with me.... Here is why I don't think that info meant what we all thought it did.... When Harry was hit with the killing curse in the woods... if Harry couldn't be killed then why would he end up in what was essentially Limbo with the decision to "go on" or "go back"? That always bothered me cause if Harry decided to go on he would be dead dead. I think the protection from Lily went to Harry's Soul. Not that he couldn't physically kill Harry. When I went back to reread the books with my son I began to understand something differently, and the reason why I think Dumbledore had to plan for Voldemort to kill Harry. In Goblet of Fire when Harry tells Dumbledore about Voldemort taking his blood for protection. The protection that was afforded from the blood was that Voldemort couldn't kill or touch Harry's SOUL. By now Dumbledore knew 3 things...Harry was a horcrux, that he(Dumbledore) could now find a way to get Voldemort to kill Harry and Harry survive it again, and he knew that Voldemort had just helped in his own demise. Because Voldemort had Harry's blood that allowed him to hurt Harry physically. But because Harry had 2 souls.... his and Voldemort's... then the killing curse performed in the woods killed the only soul it could... His OWN. Allowing Harry's to remain in tact. What would have happened had Harry not been the master of the Hallows... He probably would have been stuck in limbo... Not able to move on (because of the protection). But because he was master of all of the DH then that allowed him to make the decision to go on or go back.. again just my opinion.
"The wand chooses the wizard."
Wands can be temperamental in their allegiance. Simply disarming a wizard in a practice won't necessarily change who the wands works best for; it's more about defeating them to take the wand.
Some wands are more easygoing (especially those with unicorn hair cores, which is probably why Ron's first wand, which was a hand-me-down from his brother Charlie and had a unicorn hair core, worked well enough for him until it broke) but the Elder Wand likely gravitated to whichever witch or wizard it felt had won it. Since it knew that Harry had disarmed Malfoy, it changed its allegiance to Harry.
Just to note since this comment is fairly high up, Harry did actually break the Elder Wand in the books, but he used it before he did to fix his original wand that Hermione accidentally broke, they'd tried everything else before to fix it and hadn't managed to prior.
@@fir3gaming664 Harry did not break the Elder Wand in the book. He put it back with Dumbledore.
Another little way the books show this is when you realize Neville has been using his father's wand. And we see his struggle with his magic up until the point it broke in Order of the Phoenix. We have to assume he got a wand that was right for him personally. And we also see his magic improve from that point and therefore his confidence.
I also feel that the Elder Wand can be loyal, but not to someone who craves it for power or to evade death. I feel it rejects and betrays those owners, which is why, despite being powerful, those wizards were always losing it. From the first owner to Grindelwald to Voldemort. So much for being an unbeatable wand.
The first wizard we see it stay allied with for a long time is Dumbledore. The second one we see is Harry. Both wizards who do not fear death, do not seek power, and one of whom actually practically walked into death. And, lo and behold, in Harry's case, the wand actually favored Harry...a far less powerful wizard at the time... and rejected Voldemort... a more powerful wizard at the time, and acted to give Harry the win. We also know that Harry works as an auror and so the likelihood he is disarmed from time to time is high. We also know for a fact he is disarmed by Voldemorts daughter in the Cursed Child. Yet, the Elder Wand, as far as we know, seems to not care.
I feel like Holden wants to watch his wife's reaction just as much as we do. He can't stop watching her from the corner of his eyes whenever their's a big scene coming.
I'm sure someone else has already said this but when Narcissa asks "Is he alive? Draco, is he alive?" she's not asking Draco if Harry is alive, she's asking Harry if Draco is alive and that's why he nods. She only cares about the safety of her family, and you see that even in Half Blood Prince; she just wants her son to be safe. The Malfoy's over time lose their allegiance to Voldemort, they only stick by him out of fear, not loyalty. So in the end, Narcissa just wants to know whether or not her son is safe and when Harry nods, she lies to Voldemort and says that he's dead. That's also why they demanded that Draco come with them at the end, because they knew shit was about to go down since Harry wasn't actually dead and they wanted to get their son out of there.
THIS, thank you. I got that scene at the very first time, but I see why I can be confusing for others. I still don't quite understand how she kinda knew (or at least suspected) that Voldemort didn't really kill Harry, hence why she asked him about her son.
About Draco's mother. She was concerned for dracos well being, so she noticed harry was alive and asked him about her son. Once she knew draco was alive, she lied to Voldemort cause she had a reason to live and wanted Harry to defeat Vold. Her action is underestimated cause you have to remember that Voldemort was a full expert in legilimency (reading minds) It was not an easy task to decieve Voldemort in any way (she could have died right in the spot for attempting it). So Snape and Narcisa showed real braveness in doing it. JK Rowling has stated that she wanted Harry to be saved by a mother's love twice, and that is what happened; first her mother saved him, then Malfoy's mother.
And that’s why I ultimately liked Narcissa, I don’t believe she was ever as cruel as Lucius was even if she had a pure blood superiority mindset. I don’t think she wanted to actually become a death eater and only became one because of her husband and Bellatrix.
Her and Draco deserved a second chance. Lucius, on the other hand, is a different story.
Voldy didn't kill harry, Voldy killed the part of himself that latched onto Harry as an infant. Harry never died, Voldemort killed himself, harry was the last horcrux keeping voldy alive.
Oh, thank you! I was looking for comment like yours.
No, Harry did technically die. His soul was just in a sort of limbo. If he wanted, he could’ve stayed dead but he chose not to. In order to destroy the horcrux, u have to destroy the object that it’s contained in, so Harry did need to die for it to be destroyed.
@@solcohen9042 No. Harry never died. Otherwise the Elder Wands pull potential would've made it impossible for Harry to win their duel because it would answer to Voldemort because at that point it was still loyal to Harry.
@@SEliteGuitarist99 In order to destroy a horcrux, u must destroy the object it’s in. U can’t just destroy the horcrux itself and leave the vessel alone. If u could only destroy the horcrux then the basilisk fang should’ve destroyed the horcrux in Harry in Chamber of Secrets. If my memory serves me right, Harry was given the choice to stay dead or come back, that implies he was medically deceased, but not magically deceased as he was in “limbo”
@@SEliteGuitarist99 It wouldn't answer to Voldermort because he didn't defeat Harry, he just killed him. That's the very same reason why the Wand chose Draco instead of Snape - Draco disarmed Dumbledore against his will. But Voldemort killing Harry was not against Harry's will.
If all went according to Dumbledore's plan in THBP and Draco didn't disarm Dumbledore, Snape would have killed him in accordance with Dumbledore's will, he would have died undefeated and the Elder Wand would have lost its power. It's explained very well in the book.
Likewise, if Harry chose to stay dead and move on, he would have died undefeated and the Wand would have lost its power all the same.
"To win a wand, one must overpower and hence defeat its master in some way. However, it should be noted that wands usually stay loyal to their original owners. For example, even if a wizard is disarmed or loses a fight while carrying his wand, the wand will have developed an affinity with its original owner so that it will not be given up easily. Therefore, simply disarming a wizard may not be enough to win over a wand's allegiance. Wands will also not be won in practise duels as the perceived levity of the situation will prevent the wand from abandoning its defeated master. Even when won, wands will often still retain some fealty to the original owner. The only exception to this is the Elder Wand, which is "completely unsentimental" and will only be loyal to strength. In other words, when won, it switches its allegiance entirely."
From the wiki.
Jen saying "What do we do" when Snape died broke my heart. Just like Itachi in Naruto, Snape was the villain for the greater good and when we find that out it breaks my heart over and over again
This was kinda Neville’s time to shine, if you think about it.
1. Helping Harry, Ron, and Hermione into Hogwarts
2. Blowing up the Hogwarts bridge
3. Speech that Harry “didn’t die in vain”
4. Pulling out the sword of Gryffindor
5. Killing Nagini (the snake)
If Neville can get some there’s hope for us all
All jokes aside sad this series is over but been a blast watching it with ya’ll! Can’t wait to see what you watch next 😊
Neville is and has always been a proper Chad
Neville is literally the other candidate for the Chosen One so I don't think it counts.
He didn't even get with luna. Didn't he end up with the girl that bullied harry in goblet of fire?
@@apatternedhorizon I know I'm not the only one who thought the Neville/Luna dynamic was a good match. She has such faith in others and he is so faithful to others.
@@submandave1125 as a child reading the books I thought luna and harry would end up together.
What I really love about this movie is the use of the score. Alexander Desplat really could have made a typical big bombastic score for THE BATTLE OF HOGWARTS but instead he made Courtyard Apocalypse and Statues iconic because of how melancholy they are. Statues is the typical brass prepping for battle score you hear in all movies that have a final battle. But the long notes of the horns coupled with the steady rhythm of the drums then morphing into the plucking of the strings makes it feels more like a sad march than an epic get ready for war. And that's because it is a sad march. Hogwarts was everyone's home, not just for the characters, but for us as well. To see it become nothing more than a battleground is honestly....it's-it's upsetting.
Then with Courtyard Apocalypse, it starts out with the drums again, a call to action. Then the horns and strings come in. This score is absolutely iconic because while it's cool to see our heroes finally fight the darkness, again it's still upsetting to see students teenagers go through this in a place that was supposed to feel safe for them. Instead of it being frenetic action, it's sad and somber because we're seeing our home burn.
Jen said it best "awww this is depressing." war is too often over glorified and what I like about the HP books and films, is that it shows the REALITY of it-that is isn't fun, that it isn't something to be talked about as if to glorify the actions of those in the war....War is awful. You fight for what's right because that's the only right thing to do, but it comes at a cost. And HP was good at showcasing that cost. Even down to deaths that just seemed so unfair, but life often isn't fair. So I respect HP for that.
I also really like how Harry, Ron and Hermione have to face their respective fears while making their way to the boathouse-spiders for Ron, the troll for Hermione, and the Dementors for Harry.
When someone asks me if Snape is a good guy or a bad guy, I usually say; "He's a good guy. Whether or not he's a good person is debatable." and I think that just about sums it up.
@@hendrikscheepers4144 If it wasn't true love that Snape felt for Lily, then he wouldn't have been able to cast the Patronus. And yeah, he made mistakes during his youth, but for twenty years he more than made up for it.
People tend to think that just because he protected Harry that he is a good person. But he isn't he is bitter and angry and his hatred for the marauders is showcased in the way he treats Sirius and harry
And another thing is that in the books Snape only wants to save lily and doesn't care about the Harry and james
@@hendrikscheepers4144 I mean.... have we read the same books? He did accept it and move on. After Lily (quite rightly) didn't accept his apology, we don't have evidence he continued to force himself onto her/harass her. He LEFT HER STRICTLY ALONE after she ended the friendship. That doesn't depict obsession.
@@sudhirraghav2157 It is isn't surprising he doesn't care about saving James life. To be brutally honest, James doesn't deserve that much from Snape and we both know it. About Harry.... fair argument but remember it was a desperate situation for him at that point, And he corrected himself almost immediately.
Neville is often overlooked by the viewer and reader just as he was overlooked by Voldemort. In Order of the Phoenix it is explained through the prophecy that links Harry and Voldemort that “the dark lord would mark him his equal”. Neville was born around the same time as Harry and his parents were also in The Order and defied him, but he chose Harry instead. Neville is such an interesting character. He could have been the chosen one. In some ways he is the modern version of Peter Pettigrew to the Trio. The difference being that our trio treats him better. Harry specifically gets close to Neville when they talk at St. Mungos and then later during DA meetings. Once Neville worked through the lingering trauma the Deatheaters left on him/his family and gained confidence, Neville becomes a force to be reckoned with. He leads the DA and fights the Carrows while the trio are off finding horcruxes. Neville kept the rebellion alive at Hogworts and the room of requirement safe as a staging ground/base of operations.
IMO Neville should have became the professor of the defense against the dark arts instead of the professor of herbology. It would have suited his character development more.
I don’t think Neville is getting overlooked by book readers. All book readers I know love Neville. He has such a great character development. I always loved him. And especially since the fifth book he has been one of my favorite characters. Definitely top three.
Also, only because he became good at defense against the dark arts, Herbology was always that what made him happy and what he was the good at. You should do that what you have passion. I feel like Herbology was really his thing.
@@bobizzle1605 I disagree, herbology is what Neville enjoys and loves to do. He stepped up to defense for the sake of it needing to be done at the time, he might be good at it, but does he actually enjoy it? If anything, you waste his character development if you throw herbology out the window.
Also up until it was broken in Order of the Phoenix, Neville was using his father's wand. In the books we know from Neville relaying comments from his grandmother. That Neville's father was a more sure of himself type. And we can assume he would attracted a different type of wand than Neville. We do see Neville's magic and confidence jump leaps and bounds after. And some of that could be having a wand that picked him.
Also, by the end of it Neville showed that he was a true Gryffindor because the sword only responds to true Gryffindors, as it did for Harry in the Chamber of Secrets.
So I’m answering as I’m watching
1. Ghosts are people who have some unresolved business and in their death they refuse to let go and choose an impoverished version of life,
2. What Goyle cast was fiendfyre. It’s kind of like a sentient fire, anyone can cast it however to control it and stop it from consuming you it requires great control, which goyle obviously didn’t have
3. Snape having a doe is significant because your patronus changes to the patronus of the person you love (it’s explained more in the book)
4. Harry is able to return back to life because when Voldemort took in Harry’s blood in his own resurrection which has his mothers sacrificial protection in, meaning Voldemort himself can never ever kill Harry whilst he still lives because he himself is anchoring Harry to the real world, essentially Voldemort because an anti horcrux for Harry, he can return without splitting his soul
5. And you’re correct, Harry repairs his own wand then puts the elder wand back in dumbledores grave and when Harry dies a normal death the power of the wand will wain.
Yeah, a lot of people miss that 4th point even reading the books.
@@7777ale7777 yeah, a lot of people don’t put the pieces together
I'd like to add a bit more to the point 3, for people who haven't read the books. Patronuses are a force produced by hapiness. A requirement to produce this charm, is to fill oneself of a powerful happy memory. So it happens often that your happiests moments are shared with people you love the most. So if your happy memory is linked to someone you love, it is common that your patronus will assume a form that remind that person. That's the reason Harry's patronus is a stag, because James animagi form was a stag. That's the reason Tonks's patronus is a wolf, cause Remus is a werewolf.
I also thought Voldemort could not kill Harry because the Elder Wand refuses to kill the master.
A wizard's will is a big factor. So in an expeliarmous charm or spell, if the students are just practicing, or if its just a mild wizards spat - there is no will to permanently remove the wizard's wand or will to stop him; defeat him. Harry definitely wanted to defeat the evil that Malfoy was attached to BUT ALSO - it is pretty clear that Malfoy did not have his heart in it. And we see clear indications of Malfoy submitting to Harry - so that is all a BIG part of why Harry not only defeats Malfoy easily, but also is then the master of the Elder Wand BECAUSE (and I don't know if Dumbledore planned this) but since Dumbledore clearly submitted to Malfoy at the Astronomy Tower, the wand's owner ship passed to Malfoy. But when Malfoy then submitted and was bested by Harry - Harry, as he astutely figures out - is indeed the Master of the Elder Wand. In the end, it was Voldemort's ignorance that defeated him... from a certain point of view.
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The reason for Dumbledore's withered hand is that when he found the Ring Horcrux, he recognised the stone on the top as the Resurrection Stone. He wanted to use the stone to see Arianna so made the mistake of putting the ring on, which tried to kill him. Snape was able to contain the poison but not stop it.
Dumbledore sets things up so that when he enters the Forbidden Forest, he is the owner of all 3 of the Deathly Hallows. The Cloak from his Father, the Stone and he was the owner of the Elder Wand - the wand Voldemort uses to try and kill him.
How could Dumbledore anticipate Harry gaining ownership of the Elder Wand? I don't remember.
@@danielaf3092 He anticipated so many things. I wouldn't be surprised if he set everything in place with Snape's help. When he said "you must be the one to kill me Severus", he must have known that Snape couldn't have the wand. Voldemort believed that the wand belongs to whoever killed the last owner but it doesn't require you to kill the holder, merely defeat them. Would Snape have told Voldemort that someone else disarmed Dumbledore first? I doubt it as that would put Malfoy and the plan at risk.
Given the animosity between Harry and Draco, Dumbledore probably surmised that they would come to blows again but Harry would win. Its speculation but its also fiction and open to interpretation.
I like to think of Dumbledore fighting the war as if he were playing the perfect game of Wizard chess.
If you go back when McGonagall was facing off with Snape, Snape reflected her spells and used them to knock out the two others that were with him, so they couldn't do anything.
I think he killed them with that deflection.
Snape is the only final twist that makes this story so interesting while doing a rewatch and he becomes the mvp
The scene with Harry and the ghosts before he “dies” always makes me tear up
I really like this movie except for the last confrontation between Voldemort and Harry.
In the book they don't really fight at all. There is absolutely no way that Harry could hold his own against Voldemort. Sure he's good in Defense Against the Dark Arts but Harry would lose against Voldemort's weird tentacles every time. The only reason Harry survived was that the Elder Wand wouldn't kill it's real master. In the book, their last confrontation is just a conversation in front of everyone who is still standing in Hogwarts until they both attack at the same time and Voldemort dies, just like any man. His body doesn't dissolve, he's just a regular, if ugly af, man.
Harry also repairs his own wand using the Elder Wand (nothing else worked) and then puts it back into Dumbledore's grave, hoping to die old as the last Master and ending the cycle of violence.
It's been years since I've read the book, but at the end, didn't Harry's sacrifice essentially cast the same kind of magic over everyone at Hogwart's that Lily's sacrifice cast over him, so Voldemort is left essentially powerless during their final confrontation?
I think the problem is that ending isn’t very cinematic and would probably have been an anti climax on the big screen
@@JeffKelly03 I believe you're correct. None of his spells seem to be able to hit anyone, neat detail. I also love that in the confrontation between Voldemort & the death eaters and the Defenders of Hogwarts in front of the castle, Voldemort keeps silencing the crowd with a spell, but they keep breaking his magic.
@@JeffKelly03 Yea the same protection his mother gave him he gave to everyone else
but I do agree the book ending is much more epic not sure why they changed the ending
@@JeffKelly03 No I don't think so. Harry did sacrifice for others but he knew he had to die. He literally gave up his life so that voldemort could be defeated. Lily actually sacrificed with pure love for her son that's why the spell rebounded. It might be possible that his sacrifice might have cast some sort of protection over the students. I guess JK Rowling left it to the readers to interpret this part as they wish.
I LOVE seeing Jen fall in love with this series like so many of us have! I have a couple friends I want so badly to watch it. I know they’ll love it like we all do if they’ll give it a chance. Great reactions across the board!
"If Voldemort wasn't such of a sociopath, I'd really enjoy him." - Holden Hardman
Voldemort really was that almost mythical man with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
A victim of the system to be fair. Born through love potion - being pretty much emotionally disabled, then living through second war in muggle orphanage and getting awful care in Hogwarts.
Fun fact: the reason dumbledore says like “Still?” and Snape says “Always”is because that’s right after snape sends out the patronus and his patronus is the same as Lilly’s . That’s because Patronus’ can change over time and turn into the same patronus of the one you love the most, hence why snapes patronus is Lilly’s.
Also it’s not every wand that can be taken with disarming , it’s specifically the Elder Wand and then if the wand chooses to switch loyalties like Draco’s cuz the wand chooses the wizard like in sorcerer’s stone
The “a wizard gains loyalty over the opponent’s wand” thing is only true about the elder wand.
Love the reactions, keep it up!!
One of the most epic endings to a long running franchise.
agreed, this delivered so well for an ending
This was every Potterhead's "Avengers: Endgame". tears were flowing.
Snape Vs McGonagall - if you notice, he only defended himself, never attacked her. Moreover, he diverted her spells against the 2 death eaters behind him. So he never meant to hurt her. Same goes in half blood prince, during the scene where bellatrix set fire to hagrid's cottage: she tried to use the cruciatus cirse against harry, but snape stopped her
This series did something for me I thought was impossible in a way I was able to re live first watching these amazing films as a kid through Jennifer watching her reaction to certain realizations THANK YOU♥️
I just love Holden's reactions when Jen asks questions about what's going to happen and cannot answer without giving too much away.
In the books Harry and Nevil's stories are so closely related that it all comes down to a choice. That's why he's so represented in the movies.
yep, flip of a coin pretty much sent bellatrix to the longbottoms and voldemort to the potters instead of the otherway around.
Jen: "get me one of those wands"
Holden: "ill get you one tomorrow"
*inner holden* I WAS ALREADY GONNA DO THAT TOMORROW NOOOOO
love yall
Finally!! I've waited for so long to see Jen's reaction to Snape's memories!
32:03 it’s not the Resurrection Stone that made Harry survive the Killing Curse, it was because in Goblet of Fire, Voldemort took Harry's blood for him to touch/harm Harry again, but what it really did is act as Harry's bond to life (meaning as long Voldemort's alive, Harry could not die). So when Harry was struck by Voldemort 's Avada Kedavra, he went into Limbo where he met Dumbledore
Doesn’t it have to do with the protection spell from Lily living on in Harry’s blood? And then in turn living on in Voldemort?
Sorry, not entirely true. The movie isn't good on that topic, so the book explains it much better. The Deathly Hallows are those 3 ancient magical artifacts, "The Elder Wand", "The Resurrection Stone", and the "Cloak of Invisibility". As you might remember, all 3 were created by Death himself. The legend of the Deathly Hollows says that if one possesses the alliance of all 3 artifacts, the owner is the "Master of Death". Harry inherited the cloak from his father, he inherited the stone from Dumbledore, and the wand he won. However one wants to interpret that. Some people say that person can't die. Others say by attacking Harry with the death curse, Voldemort actually attacked the Horcrux, destrying it. However that works, the Deathly Hallows seem like an insurance plan by Dumbledore. Dumbledore knew a lot about the Deathly Hallows ever since his "friend" Grindelwald was already obsessed with the legend.
@@ONITOPIA sorry but this isnt true, what you’re stating isnt a fact and only reliant on a fairy tale made for kids. So, the thing about these three objects combined making the master if death could just be an exaggeration of the real story to make it more fairy tale like for children.
The story that these objects were given by death isn’t even a fact. Ignotus, Cadmus and Antioch may have come upon these objects or created them themselves.
It’s all dependant on a fairy tale that explains a story that happened a very long time ago so the story going from ear to ear may have changed every time it was told.
The original comment is right. This one is merely a theory and even if the master of death with the three objects being possessed at the same time was right, this would mean Harry still wasnt master of death because he dropped the resurrection stone before he died so he wasnt possessing it at the time.
@@ONITOPIA Sorry, not true. The original comment is the correct reason why Harry survived. Dumbledore himself explains it when Harry meets him in limbo.
@@ONITOPIA There's an actual book called Tales of Beedle the Bard where Dumbledore comments on every story it contains. In the story of The Tale of the Three Brothers, Dumby says that as powerful as the Hallows was, he's sure that it wasn't made by Death himself but rather by genius individuals (Antioch, Cadmus, and Ignotus Peverell). The Unbeatable wand got beaten all the time, the Resurrection Stone cannot resurrect only create illusions (it's actually a rule in HP world that there's no magic that could really resurrect the dead), and the Cloak of Invisibility that is supposed to hide you from everyone and yet there are couple of people who saw Harry even if he was wearing it. So in short, The Hallows albeit powerful were nothing more but a bunch of novelty items.
Love Snape character, definitely my favourite. Also, this movie gives more meaning to the scene of Dumbledore´s death, where Snape doesnt want to kill his friend, but Dumbledore tells him "Severus, please", because he knows it has to be done in order to protect Draco and save the others. To me, it is almost the perfect ending, connecting all the missing pices, and makes me apreciate even more the other movies!
Harry confronting Snape and then McGonagall's quiet rage - whew, it gets me.
15:30 It’s more fire than Dumbledore conjured up bc Dumbledore can actually controle it and he conjured the amount of fire he WANTED to conjure. Also the spell that Dumbledore used was firestorm. Goyle can’t so then it accumulates and gets out of controle. He could’t controle the flames that were coming out of his wand so he just threw it lmao. The spell Goyle use was Fiendfyre
If I remembered correctly, Voldemord used it in Order of the Phoenix (in serpent form)during his fight against Dumbledore
@@ultimsing Yes exactly!
That scene where they emerge from the river is hilarious. Ron can’t for the life of him put his jumper on 😂
“PETA?! They’d probably kill the dragon and say they saved it.” Best Holden comment in a while. Love ya man.
I was looking for this comment.
It's so true
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I love this movie but there is one part that really disappoints me: Voldemort’s death. He dies by basically evaporating into dust, like he’s not human. In the books, he just drops dead. He dies a normal, mortal, human death. The exact opposite of what he wanted. Despite all his efforts, he died as just a regular guy. Much more poetic imo.
I definitely agree that the books version of voldemort's death was better and more unsettling, however I think the directors wanted something more dramatic and cinematic, while also demonstrating to the audience that he was actually dead (since we saw harry essentially fake his death beforehand so people may not be convinced if voldemort just fell over and 'died- had to show his death to be permanent')
so true. i wish they went with that
honestly wish harry used avad kedavra on him
I agree, but it's something you cannot recreate in the movies. To see the meaning of that "just human death", you need to have the background of Voldemort's obsession with being exceptional and conquering death. It's something that of course is mentioned in the movies, but not stressed as much. Half blood prince should've explored all these Voldemort's values and obsessions, but they just hitned at it, and instead they chose to focus on doing all that teenage drama (which is in the books too, but not so exaggerated).
So, even if they had gone for the "human" death, it wouldn't have had the same impact it had on the book because they never gave the background necessary for it to be that impactful.
Considering the whole point of destroying the horcruxes was to render him into just another mortal man, the whole getting snapped by Thanos thing may have looked cool but really didn't make sense.
Jen’s “What do we do?!” when Voldemort kills Snape made me laugh and cry lol
The fired that Goyle conjured is called "fiend fire", and it's one of the only things that can destroy horcruxes. But they chose not to use it because it's so dangerous and difficult to control.
But was he goyle? Cuz in the first movies they referred to the other kid as goyle, the kid who wasn't in this. That guy was crabbe
I think something went wrong somewhere
@@njh123 Actually, that guy was Goyle from the very beginning. That being said, in the book I'm pretty sure it was Crab who set everything on fire.
I remember when this movie first came out being confused as to where Crab was, because I had read the books.
@@tomcattvreacts ok, but im like 90% sure malfoy refers tp crabbe as goyle in the earlier movies. Also lego harry potter years 1-4 has them flipped so my confusion might come from there
@@njh123 You know Honestly who know, 😂
The actor who played Crabbe missed out on the 8th film because he got in trouble with the law and was unavailable for filming. The third Slytherin in the room of requirement scene was Blaise Zabini (sp?) and Goyle ended up casting the Fiend Fire that burned the room up.
*One of my favorite scenes in any HP is a deleted scene, the scene with adult Harry and Aunt Petunia, so much intensity and possibility, shame it was cut and not expanded on
love the idea of horcrux harry making them go wonko tho
The Snape reveal scene is definitely top tier. One of the best of all time
Also Snape disliked Harry partly because he looked like his bully, and partly that he didn't want to give away any connection to his mother or that he loved her. Because the books explained that Snape was torn between hating Harry and protecting Harry.
Just seeing Harry would also remind him, every time, that his actions led to Lilly’s death.