I’m an ambitious triathlete and I do at least 2 swims a week(6000m a week) My last one was all about the swim strokes. I got down to 38 per 50m from 46! Just need to get my speed from 1:55 to 1:40. Not bad from a guy who could swim 150m a year ago. Love your videos keep it up!
Great review, buddy. I always see us as a kind of Peter McKinnon (you) and Casey Neistat (me) duo in terms of our video styles! Yours are always so crisp and clean. Love it.
Thorough review of the product! The multiple nosepieces should really help with fit and comfort. Good to hear you can easily flip sides left/right for the display. These would be a great training tool for the swim!
They are game changing! Having access to various metrics as you swim makes a huge difference in your training. Our users love them. Once you wear them you won't be able to go back to your regular pair of goggles.
Impressed you were able to snag video of the display while swimming! I’d be interested to see if someone like me who is far sighted and does not wear contact lenses can clearly see the display that close up. My last swim workout was an easy 1500y stretch out swim after a morning of PT and run on the AlterG.
I bet you'd be able to see the display. If your eyes are focussed too close you can actually make out the display. You need to be looking at least 2-3 feet out to see the display clearly. I've never tried the AlterG but it's something that I've wanted to try for years! I'm kind of jealous. Hope training and PT is coming along well. 👍
Matt LeGrand Good to know! I can’t see anything that is as close as a goggle is to my eyeball, but can see 2-3 feet ahead. The AlterG has been awesome...your Achilles would appreciate it. Have only had about 5 runs on it, and it’s not the same workout as being able to run on my own, but grateful to get some run time in while I rehab the knee. Thankfully can still get hard efforts in on the trainer and in the pool, and the run will come back!
My last swim was on Monday. First swim after a recovery week and went up and down ladder for about 2600 yards. Felt good to get a feel back in the water in preparation for another strong training block
I have been thinking about buying Form goggles for myself and have done a lot of research on the product. I happened to see your channel and found that your comments and explanations are the best on TH-cam. Your useful comments will surely confirm my purchase intention again, thank you very much!
Dang, I wish we went to the same pool. I'd let you take them for a spin before spending money on them. I had a few people that loved them and a few people the really didn't like the fit. The new open water feature is pretty cool as well. Let me know if you have any questions and thanks for watching the videos. 👍
Great review & my last swim went well. Swam 3000 yes. I am really learning how to feel the water & improving my endurance. Thanks for all you do buddy!
Last swim was Monday. After a mandatory three week swim break (travel for work) I was thrilled to be back in the water and regain any lost fitness. But alas, work demanded more of me this week, and I’m still at one swim for the week.
I'm still pretty new to swimming, but my last couple of swim workouts something seems to have clicked for me. Once a month I do a 1000m TT to see if I've been improving. Last month I averaged 2:07 for the 1000m. Yesterday I did the 1000m TT and averaged 1:49! I know I'm still super slow compared to most, but I'm so excited to see improvement in the pool after barely being able to swim 50m without stopping just 5 months ago! Great review as always. Someone will be very lucky to have them. I'm more impressed with looks of that app than I thought I would. I'm not sure if I missed it in the video, but I assume their app pushes to other apps like strava/training peaks? Thanks!
Wow, 207 to 149. That's crazy amazing improvement. I'm super proud of you! Keep it up and let me know how it goes as you keep improving. Yes, the app can sync to Strava and Training Peaks 👍
@@mlegrand Thank you! something definitely started to click. Before I felt like every stroke I was coming to a stop before each stroke, now feel like i'm actually gliding through the water. No better feeling than improvement!
MellyTri - There might be some other good videos in here for swimming. Maybe the breathing drills video? There should be a swimming playlist on the channel page if you want to ‘dive’ into more swim content. And I’ll be giving away a lot more goggles over the next two weeks. 👍
Hey Matt, great video and review! My last swim was on Wednesday which I am new to swimming and continue to work on technique and form as I have first sprint Tri next Sunday. A pair of goggles would definitely help me to track my progress
Awesome! Hope you win these bad boys! Good luck with the race on Sunday. I'm also racing a small indoor triathlon this weekend. Hope it goes well and report back and let me know how it goes!
Great video -- fascinating goggles. Last swim workout was yesterday. 2500m of various intervals trying really hard to detect and fix form defects. Finished with a set of 4 x 25 sprint lengths where it all finally clicked and hit some PRs. Granted... only 25 meters... but still. Looking forward to getting back into the water later this week to see if I can find that zone again.
Another great video Matt! My last swim workout yesterday was 2000m of speed intervals. It felt rough at first but got better towards the end, maybe because I was finally waking up by then. Early mornings are rough! How long did it take to get used to seeing the data screen in the goggles? Was it distracting at all?
The data wasn’t too hard to get used to and it wasn’t too distracting for me personally. I just felt like they lacked visibility and the fit wasn’t my favorite. 🤷🏻♂️ Super cool technology though
Zach, turns out that they are working on an open water feature. They should release it this summer. It’ll require a Garmin watch or an Apple Watch. 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you so much! I think it’s due to the depth of the goggles but it’s hard to say. I might get to test them as an open water option which might be interesting because in-water visibility isn’t as important. Just need to sight. We’ll see. 🤔
My last swim was Monday with the Dialed Triathlon Team. I did CSS testing and it was painfully obvious that I have a pacing issue. I thrive on instant numeric feedback -- like my Garmin for bike and run.
Nowadays swimming has been an issue with the pools being closed, so sadly few swims in the last months. I like the Form Goggles, mostly for training sessions in open waters, great future for this gadget.
I can't not read 'IN THE WOOOOORLD' without Jeremy Clarkson in my head. Glad they actually work pretty well, definitely a steep price of entry but not a bad workout tool for the data loving triathlete types. My last workout was.. phew, a few weeks back before my first marathon. basically I was using swims as a break for my legs in the middle of ramping up weekly run volume. and to that end, it was super casual pace and low effort. I've been focusing on arm technique to try and eek out more glide, as well as trying to force myself to keep a higher arm cadence in the pool to get my mind ready for more OWS.
Yeah, I think higher cadence will really help in the open water. My main issue with these goggle was the fit, visibility and leaking. But a lot of the people that borrowed these goggles loved them and immediately wanted to buy them. . . until I mentioned the price. 😆 Hope you win!
Thanks for your review! I really enjoy your channel. I am new to triathlon and have adult onset swimming. Which basically means I am speed impaired. Haha! My triathlon training is about14-17 hours a week with four swim workouts a week that total about 5-6 hours a week. My swim this morning was 2600m. It felt good as I was focused on technique.
Why do interval training or sprints when training for half or full irons? Pick a distance between 1 and 2.4 miles and swim it non stop at differing intensities based on your rest status. Seems weird to me that stopping every 100, 200 yards etc would be enticing when the actual event gives no stops. Can anyone answer this?
Lets throw the hat into the ring for these puppies... Last swim workout was an open water swim in Florida during training camp! Practiced sighting and some hard sprints followed by settling into race pace to simulate the feels of race day.
Yeah! You need to win these puppies 😆 I didn’t know you did a training camp in Florida. Hope camp went well. I’m really looking forward to following your season. I think it’s going to be epic. 👌
Great review. My last swim (1500m) was in an off road triathlon in the Snowy Mountains in Australia and I had to stop about about 12 times because my goggles were leaking!
Awesome thorough review as always. Last workout was all about form & body position... resetting my swim program and starting back at basics. These goggles are super slick but way out of my league (not just price but capability). I still like the Blueseventy you reviewed - still looking at those. Good to see Han made the review. Keep it up.
Fantastic review yet again. I'm glad you mentioned the heart rate monitor is not included. I've considered purchasing these in the past, but an extra $80 is fairly steep. As for my last swim workout; a couple hours ago on my lunch break. Went alright, though I tried to set a 100m PR and forgot to hit the lap button to start the interval!
Had googles since last fall, really like them but there are more bubbles and reduced peripheral vision (got over it). Recently got the polar H1 heart rate monitor it’s a nice upgrade. I can use the HRM for other sports too, win.
HI Matt. Great video. Did a 1000scy TT last night at 1:21/100. I would like to get that down a few seconds. I have about 9 mo until IMAZ so I think I am at a good place in training. I see a lot of potential in the FORM and might be interested in buying when they work out some of the things you mentioned.
Thanks! Feels steady but people seem to be finding some videos here. 🤷🏻♂️ Hope you guys are crushing down there and let me know if you’re ever way up here in the PNW. 👍
If it records one’s flip turns, can one use it as a timer without having to manually stop it with one’s hand (i.e. use it as a timer for a 50 meter free sprint)?
It might be a second or two off with your lap split but yeah, I think you could use it as a timer that way. Typically there's a second or two delay with auto timers like this which is why I don't love them for something short like a 50 where a second or two is kind of a lot. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Think the goggles are cool, what would be even better would be if they made it were you can attach it your own goggles. Otherwise then that, great video as always, Matt!
I had another 5 minute section where I talked about what I'd like to see this company do in the future but the video was already way too long. I would absolutely love this on a different pair of goggles. I'm guessing it doesn't work right now from an engineering perspective but I bet they'll figure it out in the future. 👌
Hello really enjoyed your review have been wishing for a pair of goggles that could keep terrace of the laps as I am seventy years old and swim twice a week but counting laps is sometimes a problem as the mind wanders sometimes. I try to swim around forty laps each session. Will share this video with my friend. Thanks for the great all round review.
Hi Heather! Thank you so much for taking the time to to watch this one. Make sure to comment on this new video where I’m giving away another pair: th-cam.com/video/hy_7AC1h58k/w-d-xo.html Good job on getting in those laps! Keep it up 👏
I’m a triathlete and I was very interested in your review about form swim goggles. I also have Marlin (an add on swim gadget which speaks you about swim times) and Stryd (for running). I love training ads as I am not a champion and any hints help!!!
How do you like the Marlin? I could see how something like that might help with pacing for longer sets. Have you used a tempo trainer? It could be a dumbed down option for similar data.
Matt LeGrand Marlin are working well but I want to read also bpm as I do with running and cycling. I have Marlin since two years and it works well both in swimming pool as well in open waters. It also helps with navigation as you can draw a route and it helps you getting there and straight....but not yet hear rate!
Loving these goggle reviews. Do they help for shoulder pain? Oh, OK, didn't think so! :-) I have difficulty finding goggles that fit well due to my honkin' nose.
Hi Matt - Great informative video. My husband surprised me by giving me these goggles for Christmas. I'm not very tech savvy so your tips will come in handy. Look forward to getting even more basic advice on how to use them.
Hi Carolyn, that's exciting. We have great resources that will help you get set up for success. You can also check out our Support Center on our website or our FAQ videos on our TH-cam channel.
@@mlegrand Why do interval training or sprints when training for half or full irons? Pick a distance between 1 and 2.4 miles and swim it non stop at differing intensities based on your rest status. Seems weird to me that stopping every 100, 200 yards etc would be enticing when the actual event gives no stops. Can anyone answer this?
@@40tired - Interval training will boost your heart rate to anaerobic levels causing your heart and circulatory system to grow stronger. Your body will also become better at recovering from intense exercise. Additionally, interval training will help you to lose weight even more than long cardio sessions.
That’s a very nonstandard distance but I think it has a custom option. Some of the settings may have changed since this video was posted and please double check their price changes and subscription model. Thanks Nigel 👍
Why do interval training or sprints when training for half or full irons? Pick a distance between 1 and 2.4 miles and swim it non stop at differing intensities based on your rest status. Seems weird to me that stopping every 100, 200 yards etc would be enticing when the actual event gives no stops. Can anyone answer this?
Interval training will boost your heart rate to anaerobic levels causing your heart and circulatory system to grow stronger. Your body will also become better at recovering from intense exercise. Additionally, interval training will help you to lose weight even more than long cardio sessions.
My swim workouts are still a bit rough. Coming back from back surgery, so I'm working on strengthening my core and getting used to body positioning in the water. I can make it about 2,000 yard right now before I'm struggling with back muscle weakness. It's coming though and I'm excited to be back in there. I would love to win these googles as motivation!
Had same thoughts as you on the push offs and dives. They don’t seem to stay watertight on a fast turn, and I’ve never managed to dive with them. Would be great if they made the HUD display as a clip on for manufacturers like speedo or finish who actually have some idea about how to make a well fitting goggle as these guys are clearly a tech company, not a goggle company.
Yeah, that would be amazing. I'm not 100% sure that it's possible. I think they need the depth to do the HUD correctly and the depth is what makes these less streamline. They still seem like a really great company. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do next. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👌
@@mlegrand yes agree they’re a good company :) I had one of the first pairs in Australia when they first came out. As a swim coach we nearly got our whole squad to buy them but then I tried to dive and that scuppered the whole thing!
@@AaronBelsham Hi Aaron, thank you for sharing your experience. Our goggles work best when pushing off the wall, and we don’t officially recommend diving with them. Our goggles are fully integrated. Regular swim goggles come in a lot of different shapes and sizes. If we built a module that clipped onto regular goggles, we just wouldn’t be able to guarantee a good experience. But when you put on our goggles, you can trust that they work as we intended. We’re always happy to hear feedback and have shared yours with our product team. Let us know if you have any other feedback or questions for us - we'd be more than happy to help.
I'm a new swimmer so it probably silly that I own these but I felt like it would make it easier for me to determine if I was doing something right and improving but I also found it odd that you can't change the top metric from overall time.
Hi John, Hope you're still enjoying swimming and the new goggles. I'd be curious to know if you're still using them or if you've moved on to something else. Hope the swimming is coming along!
Thank you for your feedback, John! We will share it with our product team. If you’re using the goggles in the pool or a swim spa, you can choose one of the following time options as your top metric: workout timer, interval timer and rest timer (only on the rest screen). You can also select up to three bottom metrics for your swim and rest screens. The top and bottom metrics on the turn screen can be changed individually. In open water, there is only one screen; the top metric is fixed as workout timer and you can select up to three metrics for the bottom metric.
It really is only getting lap and speed information after each length of the pool but it does display that information for you in the heads up display system. When open water swimming and streaming data from your watch into the the goggles you'd have that information in real-time displaying in the goggles. Thanks for watching and commenting Toni! 👌
Sorry Matt, you mean I can see laps number on the lens of gogles after each lap? I want understand if this value appears only in the app or also on the lens. Thaks a lot
@@AntonioDragonetti - You can see distance, lap time, and pacing that is re-calculated after each lap turn inside the lens of the goggle with the heads up display system. I also recently posted a video talking about their new in-goggle workouts that you might want to watch so you can see that new feature. 👍🏻
@@AntonioDragonetti Thank you for your questions. As Matt already explained, you can monitor the number of lengths, time, distance, pace, stroke rate, stroke count, and more in the goggles display as you swim. Your metrics will update after each turn or rest. You can also review your swim afterwards in the FORM Swim App. Please let us know if you have any other questions, we'd be happy to answer them for you.
Hey Matt, I’m super curious about these, more so to see if I can maintain a prescribed pace for a prescribed duration. Anyway, there’s a couple thoughts that come to mind, and if you could provide your own thoughts, I’d appreciate it. Did they ever start to fog up? Man, I’d hate to invest $200 and these things fog up after a few months. And two, are you supposed to run your Garmin watch (945 in my case which is compatible) at the same time? Because the 945 has swim HR data and that would save $80 for the Polar unit. Thanks guy! Excellent content as always!
Ok, I’ll have to check on this. There will be a second video about it coming soon. Right now our air quality hasn’t been clear enough to open water swim yet. Let you know soon. 👍
We’d be happy to answer those questions. The goggles have the same permanent, chemical-resistant anti-fog technology used in diving masks and should not require any cleaning beyond rinsing with clean water and air drying. The anti-fog will last longer, too, if you avoid touching the inside of the lens so as not to disrupt the coating. In open water, the goggles can connect to the Garmin Forerunner 945 for heart rate and GPS metrics. In the pool or in open water without a compatible GPS watch, you would need the Polar OH1/ OH1 + sensor to track your heart rate.
Matt, thanks for the review, I have been interested in these googles because I frequently lose count of my laps on long sets - these would solve that issue.
Are these goggles a subscription product only??? or can you use them without paying a fee every month???? How does that work Matt? (what do you get without paying and what do you get with the premium suscripción?). This subscription stuff is a deal breaker for me, but I really want these goggles. Thanks for the help Matt!
Hi Eduardo, so the Form team changed their pricing since the making of this video and they’ve really gone big with the subscription model. You can see the basics features but a lot of features are walled off to non subscribers. 😬 It’s really frustrating. I’m not a huge fan of all of these subscriptions these days.
The Form Swim company has changed their pricing model since I reviewed these goggles and severely restricted access to data of non members but you should still be able to have access to some metrics without paying a subscription. Here's a list of metrics you should be able to see in the water: support.formswim.com/hc/en-us/articles/5053911742099-What-metrics-can-I-see-while-swimming-
Awesome well balanced review of the goggles. Wondering if they'll change up display options with a firmware update down the line. Hoping to get back in the water soon 😃
Triathletes, the early adopters. I am interested in doing some continuous swims be HR. Also, would like to see my stroke rate and distance per stroke simultaneously for intervals.
Scott, I am going to do some more testing on these goggles here soon. I need to test the open water feature. Let me know if you want me to try to show a specific screen. I don’t have the OH1+ but I’ll try to figure something out for HR. 👍
@@mlegrand nah man, thank you for posting on reddit, otherwise id never would have found you. 😁
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Good one, thank you. My last swim was a typical 6x400 in different strokes, I'm sure that a gadget like this would help me with making that a little bit more interesting ;-)
My last swim was out of town at a 25 meter pool. It's been frustrating swimming for me since I use a cheapo China-made sports watch that gives off inconsistent data on my laps, plus it doesn't sync my stats to strava and it never got fixed even after contacting customer service. I see the goggles as a good alternative to get stats since I can also sync this direct to my strava. So yeah, here's my cheapo attempt of trying to win this since I'm on a cheapo budget on TRIyng tri. 😅🙏
Thank you for your comment! The goggles don't have GPS capabilities themselves. The goggles need to be connect to a compatible smartwatch to get GPS distance, pace, and heart rate (if supported by the watch) while swimming in open water. They can also be used on their own in open water and will track your time, real-time stroke rate, and calories. If a Polar Verity Sense or OH1/OH1 + sensor is connected to the goggles, you can also track and monitor your heart rate without a compatible watch.
The inaccuracies @6:22. So did they fix the issue over the last year? I mean that screenshot on the right made the form goggle looked completely dysfunctional.
Good question. I haven’t gone back to test the accuracy of this in a long time and this video is over a year old so I’m guessing things have changed a good bit.
@@SpiritsBB -- Ha! So that is partially true. I first reviewed these goggles as part of a series of videos looking at goggles. I also gave away all of the goggles that I tested after those reviews. (I try to giveaway things that companies send to me to subscribers) By the end of my testing, I really liked the Speedo Vanquisher and the Magic 5 goggles. I had issues with these goggles leaking a bit when pushing hard off the wall. And I think that's due to the overall depth of these goggles. Hit me up if you ever have more questions SpiritsBB! 👍🏻
@@mlegrand I couldn't help myself. Just pulled the trigger on this one. My thought process is - if the inaccuracies or the fact that the wall push causes water to leak in, then I'll just send it back and do a refund. Thanks for the quick response btw.
The visibility of this goggles is probably my most concerned point, the rest is almost perfect. It’s hard to do a glimpse while wearing this in a crowded pool. I ended up hitting other people accidentally a lot 🙁
Yes, this was frustrating for me as well. I might suggest switching the display to show only on turns. I’m also excited about their open water feature that they’re hoping to get out this summer.
This was my last swim workout: www.strava.com/activities/3117792857. I love how big and scary the ocean is to swim in, while my pace is slow in open water I appreciate how it builds mental toughness. The FORM's would be great for my, I regularly do long sets at the pool and seeing my pace would make sure I wasn't slacking!
Great review! and if you must know, my last swim workout went well :) slowly seeing my endurance and speed come back after some time off. #ironman2020 training is in full force!
Devisia, that and I say Umm And Ahhh a lot when talking to the camera. I’m working on it. Thanks for the feedback, I really do want to improve these reviews. And I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment. 👍
devidia - Awesome, keep me posted on what you think of them. They’re an adding open water feature this summer which should be interesting. (Just need a Garmin or Apple Watch)
@@mlegrand Yeah i've also seen that. Unfortunatly my Garmin Forerunner 735 isn't featured... On another note, have you ever heard of Sensarii? Are they still 'alive' or is that project burried? It looked promising but it has been very quiet...
I’m an ambitious triathlete and I do at least 2 swims a week(6000m a week) My last one was all about the swim strokes. I got down to 38 per 50m from 46! Just need to get my speed from 1:55 to 1:40. Not bad from a guy who could swim 150m a year ago. Love your videos keep it up!
Awesome work! Glad you’re making such good progress. Keep me posted on how it keeps coming along. 👍
Great review, buddy. I always see us as a kind of Peter McKinnon (you) and Casey Neistat (me) duo in terms of our video styles! Yours are always so crisp and clean. Love it.
Favorite comment ever. I always see your stuff and think “that’s so Casey Neistat. How does he do that so easily?”
Thorough review of the product! The multiple nosepieces should really help with fit and comfort. Good to hear you can easily flip sides left/right for the display. These would be a great training tool for the swim!
They are game changing! Having access to various metrics as you swim makes a huge difference in your training. Our users love them. Once you wear them you won't be able to go back to your regular pair of goggles.
Thank you Tom! Yeah, it’s easy to flip the display to either side. Hope you win these! 👍
My last swim workout? How’d I feel? Slow, that’s how I felt. Do these goggles have a “calendar mode?” That’s how slow I am right now.
😆 they could put a 🥕 in the display. It will make you go faster. #youtubescience
Impressed you were able to snag video of the display while swimming! I’d be interested to see if someone like me who is far sighted and does not wear contact lenses can clearly see the display that close up. My last swim workout was an easy 1500y stretch out swim after a morning of PT and run on the AlterG.
I bet you'd be able to see the display. If your eyes are focussed too close you can actually make out the display. You need to be looking at least 2-3 feet out to see the display clearly. I've never tried the AlterG but it's something that I've wanted to try for years! I'm kind of jealous. Hope training and PT is coming along well. 👍
Matt LeGrand Good to know! I can’t see anything that is as close as a goggle is to my eyeball, but can see 2-3 feet ahead. The AlterG has been awesome...your Achilles would appreciate it. Have only had about 5 runs on it, and it’s not the same workout as being able to run on my own, but grateful to get some run time in while I rehab the knee. Thankfully can still get hard efforts in on the trainer and in the pool, and the run will come back!
Still sorta new to swimming. Started learning a year ago and hoping to do my first tri this summer. Did some form drills and a 500m swim yesterday
Awesome! Keep up with the drills it should help. Can’t wait to hear how your first Tri goes!!! Keep me posted.
My last swim was on Monday. First swim after a recovery week and went up and down ladder for about 2600 yards. Felt good to get a feel back in the water in preparation for another strong training block
Awesome! Yeah, I like doing some sort of ladder workout in the water. 👌
I have been thinking about buying Form goggles for myself and have done a lot of research on the product. I happened to see your channel and found that your comments and explanations are the best on TH-cam. Your useful comments will surely confirm my purchase intention again, thank you very much!
Dang, I wish we went to the same pool. I'd let you take them for a spin before spending money on them. I had a few people that loved them and a few people the really didn't like the fit. The new open water feature is pretty cool as well. Let me know if you have any questions and thanks for watching the videos. 👍
Great review & my last swim went well. Swam 3000 yes. I am really learning how to feel the water & improving my endurance. Thanks for all you do buddy!
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Awesome 👍
Last swim was Monday. After a mandatory three week swim break (travel for work) I was thrilled to be back in the water and regain any lost fitness. But alas, work demanded more of me this week, and I’m still at one swim for the week.
Hopefully everything settles here soon and you can crank out some quality swim sets before the season kicks up. 👌
I'm still pretty new to swimming, but my last couple of swim workouts something seems to have clicked for me. Once a month I do a 1000m TT to see if I've been improving. Last month I averaged 2:07 for the 1000m. Yesterday I did the 1000m TT and averaged 1:49! I know I'm still super slow compared to most, but I'm so excited to see improvement in the pool after barely being able to swim 50m without stopping just 5 months ago!
Great review as always. Someone will be very lucky to have them. I'm more impressed with looks of that app than I thought I would. I'm not sure if I missed it in the video, but I assume their app pushes to other apps like strava/training peaks? Thanks!
Wow, 207 to 149. That's crazy amazing improvement. I'm super proud of you! Keep it up and let me know how it goes as you keep improving. Yes, the app can sync to Strava and Training Peaks 👍
@@mlegrand Thank you! something definitely started to click. Before I felt like every stroke I was coming to a stop before each stroke, now feel like i'm actually gliding through the water. No better feeling than improvement!
MellyTri - There might be some other good videos in here for swimming. Maybe the breathing drills video? There should be a swimming playlist on the channel page if you want to ‘dive’ into more swim content. And I’ll be giving away a lot more goggles over the next two weeks. 👍
Cool product! Can’t wait to share this video with my triathlete friends!
Your girls are on swim team right? 👍🥽 🏊♀️
Damn the quality of this vid is top notch good stuff man
Wow, thank you so much Vineeth! That is so nice of you to say. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Hey Matt, great video and review! My last swim was on Wednesday which I am new to swimming and continue to work on technique and form as I have first sprint Tri next Sunday. A pair of goggles would definitely help me to track my progress
Awesome! Hope you win these bad boys! Good luck with the race on Sunday. I'm also racing a small indoor triathlon this weekend. Hope it goes well and report back and let me know how it goes!
Matt LeGrand Thanks I certainly will. Good luck for your race as well 👊
Great video -- fascinating goggles. Last swim workout was yesterday. 2500m of various intervals trying really hard to detect and fix form defects. Finished with a set of 4 x 25 sprint lengths where it all finally clicked and hit some PRs. Granted... only 25 meters... but still. Looking forward to getting back into the water later this week to see if I can find that zone again.
Awesome Chris! Glad you’re having some good progress in the pool. I’d take a PR of any kind on any day personally 😀
Awesome bit of kit, great review. Thanks buddy 👍👍
Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Another great video Matt! My last swim workout yesterday was 2000m of speed intervals. It felt rough at first but got better towards the end, maybe because I was finally waking up by then. Early mornings are rough! How long did it take to get used to seeing the data screen in the goggles? Was it distracting at all?
The data wasn’t too hard to get used to and it wasn’t too distracting for me personally. I just felt like they lacked visibility and the fit wasn’t my favorite. 🤷🏻♂️ Super cool technology though
Once again, after watching one of your videos, I have to say the same thing as Ray: "I need to try harder" 😂 SUCH good content, Matt!
Have you reviewed these? I’ve been meaning to send you a 100k congrats package and can send a pair of these along if you’re interested.
Thank you for clearing that up about open water swims. I had thought about buying them specifically for open water 😅
Zach, turns out that they are working on an open water feature. They should release it this summer. It’ll require a Garmin watch or an Apple Watch. 🤷🏻♂️
We have just announced our open water features will launch in summer 2020. You can find more information about this on our website.
Spot on Matt. Bubbles are an issue for me and a lack of peripheral vision. Enjoying your videos and subbed👍
Thank you so much! I think it’s due to the depth of the goggles but it’s hard to say. I might get to test them as an open water option which might be interesting because in-water visibility isn’t as important. Just need to sight. We’ll see. 🤔
My last swim was Monday with the Dialed Triathlon Team. I did CSS testing and it was painfully obvious that I have a pacing issue. I thrive on instant numeric feedback -- like my Garmin for bike and run.
You know, I’m horrible at pacing also. Glad you’re doing these team swims. I think they’re helping a lot of people! 👌
I’m a triathlete, so my last swim was three weeks ago 😂 I promise I’ll pick up the swim workouts 8 weeks prior to race day though!
👌 Just splash some water in your face in the morning a few days before the race. You’ll be fine. 😆
Nowadays swimming has been an issue with the pools being closed, so sadly few swims in the last months. I like the Form Goggles, mostly for training sessions in open waters, great future for this gadget.
Yeah, I’m excited to try the Form Swim goggles for open water swimming! 👌
I can't not read 'IN THE WOOOOORLD' without Jeremy Clarkson in my head. Glad they actually work pretty well, definitely a steep price of entry but not a bad workout tool for the data loving triathlete types.
My last workout was.. phew, a few weeks back before my first marathon. basically I was using swims as a break for my legs in the middle of ramping up weekly run volume. and to that end, it was super casual pace and low effort. I've been focusing on arm technique to try and eek out more glide, as well as trying to force myself to keep a higher arm cadence in the pool to get my mind ready for more OWS.
Yeah, I think higher cadence will really help in the open water. My main issue with these goggle was the fit, visibility and leaking. But a lot of the people that borrowed these goggles loved them and immediately wanted to buy them. . . until I mentioned the price. 😆 Hope you win!
Thanks for your review! I really enjoy your channel. I am new to triathlon and have adult onset swimming. Which basically means I am speed impaired. Haha! My triathlon training is about14-17 hours a week with four swim workouts a week that total about 5-6 hours a week. My swim this morning was 2600m. It felt good as I was focused on technique.
Adult onset swimming is so true!!!
Why do interval training or sprints when training for half or full irons? Pick a distance between 1 and 2.4 miles and swim it non stop at differing intensities based on your rest status. Seems weird to me that stopping every 100, 200 yards etc would be enticing when the actual event gives no stops. Can anyone answer this?
great video, love your objective view, last swim was hard again, usually hard as it is always after a HIIT ride or HIIT swim. Cheers
Do you ever notice leg craps while swimming after a hard ride? Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope you win these 👍
Lets throw the hat into the ring for these puppies...
Last swim workout was an open water swim in Florida during training camp! Practiced sighting and some hard sprints followed by settling into race pace to simulate the feels of race day.
Yeah! You need to win these puppies 😆 I didn’t know you did a training camp in Florida. Hope camp went well. I’m really looking forward to following your season. I think it’s going to be epic. 👌
Great review. My last swim (1500m) was in an off road triathlon in the Snowy Mountains in Australia and I had to stop about about 12 times because my goggles were leaking!
You guys do the coolest stuff!!! 👌
Matt LeGrand we’re always looking for adventures 🤟
Awesome thorough review as always. Last workout was all about form & body position... resetting my swim program and starting back at basics. These goggles are super slick but way out of my league (not just price but capability). I still like the Blueseventy you reviewed - still looking at those.
Good to see Han made the review. Keep it up.
Han has had a rough last few movies. It cost extra to have him cameo in this film but I think it was worth it. 😆
Fantastic review yet again. I'm glad you mentioned the heart rate monitor is not included. I've considered purchasing these in the past, but an extra $80 is fairly steep.
As for my last swim workout; a couple hours ago on my lunch break. Went alright, though I tried to set a 100m PR and forgot to hit the lap button to start the interval!
Exactly! $280 is a bit steep.
Had googles since last fall, really like them but there are more bubbles and reduced peripheral vision (got over it). Recently got the polar H1 heart rate monitor it’s a nice upgrade. I can use the HRM for other sports too, win.
J McGovern - Yeah, I am going to review the OH1 on the channel soon. It’s nice. It can handle all three sports. 👌
HI Matt. Great video. Did a 1000scy TT last night at 1:21/100. I would like to get that down a few seconds. I have about 9 mo until IMAZ so I think I am at a good place in training. I see a lot of potential in the FORM and might be interested in buying when they work out some of the things you mentioned.
I think these would be perfect for that set. They might not be that helpful for the IMAZ race that water is 🤢
Look at those subscribers! You are blowing up! Great to see man ;)
Thanks! Feels steady but people seem to be finding some videos here. 🤷🏻♂️ Hope you guys are crushing down there and let me know if you’re ever way up here in the PNW. 👍
Nice review! Could they display how many yards you swam?
Yes! These goggles do show distance. You just set pool type (yards / meters) and it'll tell you total distance as one of the metrics. 👍
If it records one’s flip turns, can one use it as a timer without having to manually stop it with one’s hand (i.e. use it as a timer for a 50 meter free sprint)?
It might be a second or two off with your lap split but yeah, I think you could use it as a timer that way. Typically there's a second or two delay with auto timers like this which is why I don't love them for something short like a 50 where a second or two is kind of a lot. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
Think the goggles are cool, what would be even better would be if they made it were you can attach it your own goggles. Otherwise then that, great video as always, Matt!
I had another 5 minute section where I talked about what I'd like to see this company do in the future but the video was already way too long. I would absolutely love this on a different pair of goggles. I'm guessing it doesn't work right now from an engineering perspective but I bet they'll figure it out in the future. 👌
Thanks for the review! My last swim workout was a 6x400. It's one of my go-to workouts to focus on endurance and it went well. Mostly even paces
Sounds like a solid set. I’ll have to try it. I always seem to fall off after 200 so 400s would be good for me. 👍
Hello really enjoyed your review have been wishing for a pair of goggles that could keep terrace of the laps as I am seventy years old and swim twice a week but counting laps is sometimes a problem as the mind wanders sometimes. I try to swim around forty laps each session. Will share this video with my friend. Thanks for the great all round review.
Hi Heather! Thank you so much for taking the time to to watch this one. Make sure to comment on this new video where I’m giving away another pair:
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Good job on getting in those laps! Keep it up 👏
I’m a triathlete and I was very interested in your review about form swim goggles. I also have Marlin (an add on swim gadget which speaks you about swim times) and Stryd (for running). I love training ads as I am not a champion and any hints help!!!
How do you like the Marlin? I could see how something like that might help with pacing for longer sets. Have you used a tempo trainer? It could be a dumbed down option for similar data.
Matt LeGrand Marlin are working well but I want to read also bpm as I do with running and cycling. I have Marlin since two years and it works well both in swimming pool as well in open waters. It also helps with navigation as you can draw a route and it helps you getting there and straight....but not yet hear rate!
Loving these goggle reviews. Do they help for shoulder pain? Oh, OK, didn't think so! :-) I have difficulty finding goggles that fit well due to my honkin' nose.
Yes! They fix any and all shoulder pain!!!
Hi Matt - Great informative video. My husband surprised me by giving me these goggles for Christmas. I'm not very tech savvy so your tips will come in handy. Look forward to getting even more basic advice on how to use them.
Oh great! Can’t wait to hear how you like them after a little time getting used to them.
Hi Carolyn, that's exciting. We have great resources that will help you get set up for success. You can also check out our Support Center on our website or our FAQ videos on our TH-cam channel.
Triathlon is new for me and would love to know my splits as I train for my first 70.3! My last swim was yesterday and did a straight 2000m stoked!
That’s a long way to swim straight. I always tend to do some sort of interval set. But maybe I need to do something longer occasionally 🤔
@@mlegrand I wanted to see where I was at and if I could 😁
@@mlegrand Why do interval training or sprints when training for half or full irons? Pick a distance between 1 and 2.4 miles and swim it non stop at differing intensities based on your rest status. Seems weird to me that stopping every 100, 200 yards etc would be enticing when the actual event gives no stops. Can anyone answer this?
@@40tired - Interval training will boost your heart rate to anaerobic levels causing your heart and circulatory system to grow stronger. Your body will also become better at recovering from intense exercise. Additionally, interval training will help you to lose weight even more than long cardio sessions.
Great review answered a lot of questions I had. Can the goggles be set up for smaller pools eg 12.5M. Thanks.
That’s a very nonstandard distance but I think it has a custom option. Some of the settings may have changed since this video was posted and please double check their price changes and subscription model. Thanks Nigel 👍
Why do interval training or sprints when training for half or full irons? Pick a distance between 1 and 2.4 miles and swim it non stop at differing intensities based on your rest status. Seems weird to me that stopping every 100, 200 yards etc would be enticing when the actual event gives no stops. Can anyone answer this?
Interval training will boost your heart rate to anaerobic levels causing your heart and circulatory system to grow stronger. Your body will also become better at recovering from intense exercise. Additionally, interval training will help you to lose weight even more than long cardio sessions.
My swim workouts are still a bit rough. Coming back from back surgery, so I'm working on strengthening my core and getting used to body positioning in the water. I can make it about 2,000 yard right now before I'm struggling with back muscle weakness. It's coming though and I'm excited to be back in there. I would love to win these googles as motivation!
Awesome! Hope you continue to recover! Hope you win these!
Had same thoughts as you on the push offs and dives. They don’t seem to stay watertight on a fast turn, and I’ve never managed to dive with them. Would be great if they made the HUD display as a clip on for manufacturers like speedo or finish who actually have some idea about how to make a well fitting goggle as these guys are clearly a tech company, not a goggle company.
Yeah, that would be amazing. I'm not 100% sure that it's possible. I think they need the depth to do the HUD correctly and the depth is what makes these less streamline. They still seem like a really great company. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do next. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👌
@@mlegrand yes agree they’re a good company :)
I had one of the first pairs in Australia when they first came out.
As a swim coach we nearly got our whole squad to buy them but then I tried to dive and that scuppered the whole thing!
@@AaronBelsham Hi Aaron, thank you for sharing your experience. Our goggles work best when pushing off the wall, and we don’t officially recommend diving with them.
Our goggles are fully integrated. Regular swim goggles come in a lot of different shapes and sizes. If we built a module that clipped onto regular goggles, we just wouldn’t be able to guarantee a good experience. But when you put on our goggles, you can trust that they work as we intended.
We’re always happy to hear feedback and have shared yours with our product team. Let us know if you have any other feedback or questions for us - we'd be more than happy to help.
Pepper at the front door is the best part of this video by far (Evan)
Goes down hill fast when I come on the screen. 🤣
I'm a new swimmer so it probably silly that I own these but I felt like it would make it easier for me to determine if I was doing something right and improving but I also found it odd that you can't change the top metric from overall time.
Hi John, Hope you're still enjoying swimming and the new goggles. I'd be curious to know if you're still using them or if you've moved on to something else. Hope the swimming is coming along!
Thank you for your feedback, John! We will share it with our product team. If you’re using the goggles in the pool or a swim spa, you can choose one of the following time options as your top metric: workout timer, interval timer and rest timer (only on the rest screen). You can also select up to three bottom metrics for your swim and rest screens.
The top and bottom metrics on the turn screen can be changed individually.
In open water, there is only one screen; the top metric is fixed as workout timer and you can select up to three metrics for the bottom metric.
Does it show laps in real-time also on the screen?
It really is only getting lap and speed information after each length of the pool but it does display that information for you in the heads up display system. When open water swimming and streaming data from your watch into the the goggles you'd have that information in real-time displaying in the goggles. Thanks for watching and commenting Toni! 👌
Sorry Matt, you mean I can see laps number on the lens of gogles after each lap? I want understand if this value appears only in the app or also on the lens. Thaks a lot
@@AntonioDragonetti - You can see distance, lap time, and pacing that is re-calculated after each lap turn inside the lens of the goggle with the heads up display system. I also recently posted a video talking about their new in-goggle workouts that you might want to watch so you can see that new feature. 👍🏻
@@AntonioDragonetti Thank you for your questions. As Matt already explained, you can monitor the number of lengths, time, distance, pace, stroke rate, stroke count, and more in the goggles display as you swim. Your metrics will update after each turn or rest. You can also review your swim afterwards in the FORM Swim App. Please let us know if you have any other questions, we'd be happy to answer them for you.
Hey Matt, I’m super curious about these, more so to see if I can maintain a prescribed pace for a prescribed duration. Anyway, there’s a couple thoughts that come to mind, and if you could provide your own thoughts, I’d appreciate it. Did they ever start to fog up? Man, I’d hate to invest $200 and these things fog up after a few months. And two, are you supposed to run your Garmin watch (945 in my case which is compatible) at the same time? Because the 945 has swim HR data and that would save $80 for the Polar unit. Thanks guy! Excellent content as always!
Ok, I’ll have to check on this. There will be a second video about it coming soon. Right now our air quality hasn’t been clear enough to open water swim yet. Let you know soon. 👍
We’d be happy to answer those questions. The goggles have the same permanent, chemical-resistant anti-fog technology used in diving masks and should not require any cleaning beyond rinsing with clean water and air drying. The anti-fog will last longer, too, if you avoid touching the inside of the lens so as not to disrupt the coating.
In open water, the goggles can connect to the Garmin Forerunner 945 for heart rate and GPS metrics. In the pool or in open water without a compatible GPS watch, you would need the Polar OH1/ OH1 + sensor to track your heart rate.
FORM - Thanks Form! 👌
Very informative.Thank you.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching and taking the extra time to comment. 👍
Matt, thanks for the review, I have been interested in these googles because I frequently lose count of my laps on long sets - these would solve that issue.
Yeah! Perfect for that. And easier than trying to look at a watch mid flip turn. 😆
Are these goggles a subscription product only??? or can you use them without paying a fee every month???? How does that work Matt? (what do you get without paying and what do you get with the premium suscripción?). This subscription stuff is a deal breaker for me, but I really want these goggles. Thanks for the help Matt!
Hi Eduardo, so the Form team changed their pricing since the making of this video and they’ve really gone big with the subscription model. You can see the basics features but a lot of features are walled off to non subscribers. 😬 It’s really frustrating. I’m not a huge fan of all of these subscriptions these days.
Do you need to subscribe to a service to use these on daily basis and get stats?
The Form Swim company has changed their pricing model since I reviewed these goggles and severely restricted access to data of non members but you should still be able to have access to some metrics without paying a subscription. Here's a list of metrics you should be able to see in the water: support.formswim.com/hc/en-us/articles/5053911742099-What-metrics-can-I-see-while-swimming-
Thanks for that. Take good care.
Awesome well balanced review of the goggles. Wondering if they'll change up display options with a firmware update down the line. Hoping to get back in the water soon 😃
Yeah, they have so many options to update within the software. Can’t wait to see what this company does. 👍
Triathletes, the early adopters. I am interested in doing some continuous swims be HR. Also, would like to see my stroke rate and distance per stroke simultaneously for intervals.
Scott, I am going to do some more testing on these goggles here soon. I need to test the open water feature. Let me know if you want me to try to show a specific screen. I don’t have the OH1+ but I’ll try to figure something out for HR. 👍
Last swim was a 3.5k distance full of intervals and people in the next lane chucking water whenever i try and breathe hahahha
That’s a solid swim! 🏊♂️ Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
@@mlegrand nah man, thank you for posting on reddit, otherwise id never would have found you. 😁
Good one, thank you. My last swim was a typical 6x400 in different strokes, I'm sure that a gadget like this would help me with making that a little bit more interesting ;-)
Yeah! It does do stoke detection. It’d be perfect for that! 👍
How this Google measure distance on open water swimming? Did they have a GPS?
You can connect a compatible smartwatch with the goggles to see GPS distance, pace and heart rate (if compatibility allows).
I’ll try to make a video about this specifically. Currently compatible with Garmin watch gps and Apple Watch. 👍
My last swim was out of town at a 25 meter pool. It's been frustrating swimming for me since I use a cheapo China-made sports watch that gives off inconsistent data on my laps, plus it doesn't sync my stats to strava and it never got fixed even after contacting customer service. I see the goggles as a good alternative to get stats since I can also sync this direct to my strava. So yeah, here's my cheapo attempt of trying to win this since I'm on a cheapo budget on TRIyng tri. 😅🙏
Awesome, good chances here. I don’t have a huge following so your odds are excellent 👌
@@mlegrand here's crossing my fingers including my toes. :D :D
These goggles are sweet, would have really helped in my last supper long swim session in the pool.
Awesome. Hope you win these. The odds are good. It's kind of a small following here. 👍
No options for metrics to see while swimming in open water without GPS
That is correct. You can’t see speed and distance without a Garmin or Apple Watch connected. You could get heart rate or other details in the display.
Thank you for your comment! The goggles don't have GPS capabilities themselves. The goggles need to be connect to a compatible smartwatch to get GPS distance, pace, and heart rate (if supported by the watch) while swimming in open water. They can also be used on their own in open water and will track your time, real-time stroke rate, and calories. If a Polar Verity Sense or OH1/OH1 + sensor is connected to the goggles, you can also track and monitor your heart rate without a compatible watch.
The inaccuracies @6:22. So did they fix the issue over the last year? I mean that screenshot on the right made the form goggle looked completely dysfunctional.
Good question. I haven’t gone back to test the accuracy of this in a long time and this video is over a year old so I’m guessing things have changed a good bit.
@@mlegrand lol, that sounded like it was for a review and not something you'd use regularly. Will wait for the next version then.
@@SpiritsBB -- Ha! So that is partially true. I first reviewed these goggles as part of a series of videos looking at goggles. I also gave away all of the goggles that I tested after those reviews. (I try to giveaway things that companies send to me to subscribers) By the end of my testing, I really liked the Speedo Vanquisher and the Magic 5 goggles. I had issues with these goggles leaking a bit when pushing hard off the wall. And I think that's due to the overall depth of these goggles. Hit me up if you ever have more questions SpiritsBB! 👍🏻
@@mlegrand I couldn't help myself. Just pulled the trigger on this one. My thought process is - if the inaccuracies or the fact that the wall push causes water to leak in, then I'll just send it back and do a refund. Thanks for the quick response btw.
@@SpiritsBB - Report back and let me know what you think. I think you'll be fine as long as you're not diving off the blocks.
Now these goggles are waaay out of my budget, great review! As for my last swim "training" nothing much 2.7k as per usual that 2-3 times a week.
That’s pretty good! I need to make more of my swims up towards 3k. I do way too many 1-2k swim days. 🤦♂️
I would like to test these.
Herr, I know right. Super interesting goggles. And now that open water feature is looking super cool.
Last swim work out was more of a simulated drowning... haha Time to spend more days in the pool.
😆 Gets better 👍🥽
Hey Blake, you won these fancy goggles. I just need to get in touch with you, get your address and I'll send them your way! 👊
@@mlegrand Just got this message. That's Awesome! Where do I send you my address? Email?
The visibility of this goggles is probably my most concerned point, the rest is almost perfect. It’s hard to do a glimpse while wearing this in a crowded pool. I ended up hitting other people accidentally a lot 🙁
Yes, this was frustrating for me as well. I might suggest switching the display to show only on turns. I’m also excited about their open water feature that they’re hoping to get out this summer.
Matt LeGrand will try switching the display. Do you breath on one major side? Is the display on that side as well?
Thank you for your feedback! It might take some time to get used to the goggles but we'll make sure to pass your feedback on to our product team!
Great review, I’ve been looking at these for a while now. Would like to own one for my kid for swim team. Hope we win. Thanks
Hope you and your kid win! What event do they like to race?
This was my last swim workout: www.strava.com/activities/3117792857. I love how big and scary the ocean is to swim in, while my pace is slow in open water I appreciate how it builds mental toughness. The FORM's would be great for my, I regularly do long sets at the pool and seeing my pace would make sure I wasn't slacking!
Might be perfect for you! Hope you win these 👏
$200 isn't really that bad considering they are the only ones making this type of product.
Very true. I have some concerns about misplacing expensive goggles like this but there’s nothing like them that’s for sure.
Great review! and if you must know, my last swim workout went well :) slowly seeing my endurance and speed come back after some time off. #ironman2020 training is in full force!
Awesome! I can't wait to hear how your season goes this year! 👍
My last swim workout was 20x100 (thanks Evan🙄jk😂). Boring but whatever hahaha. That’s how you get better!
👌 Yeah, you’re going to do fantastic this season
More tech I have no business buying....doh!
Yeah, it's pricey and they've changed their business model now. They have more features tied to their subscription pricing.
@@mlegrand I put a pair in the cart two days ago but haven’t pulled the trigger.
Let me know if you have any questions. 👌
@@mlegrand will do. It’s still sitting in the cart. lol
Please stop looking at the side.Other than that, thanks for the review
Devisia, that and I say Umm And Ahhh a lot when talking to the camera. I’m working on it. Thanks for the feedback, I really do want to improve these reviews. And I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment. 👍
@@mlegrand My pleasure. I bought them just now by the way ;) looking forward
devidia - Awesome, keep me posted on what you think of them. They’re an adding open water feature this summer which should be interesting. (Just need a Garmin or Apple Watch)
@@mlegrand Yeah i've also seen that. Unfortunatly my Garmin Forerunner 735 isn't featured...
On another note, have you ever heard of Sensarii? Are they still 'alive' or is that project burried? It looked promising but it has been very quiet...
devidia - I haven’t heard much about it. I’ll reach out and see if they still exist. I bet they’re just taking a while to make it to market.
Strava for swimming was my exact thought, when I saw the app 😃
It’s fantastic. I really think they should consider making the App it’s own stand-alone product. Strava for swimming.