The Scoop or Double Knee Bend | Snatch & Clean Technique

Yes, there are more factors determining the timing and degree of knee bend in the scoop, but this is the 2-minute version, and even that’s pushing it.
For example, not being posturally strong enough to stay over the bar longer will mean an earlier scoop regardless of other traits or intentions; a habit of pushing the knees really far back will tend to delay the scoop; pushing the knees out wider as the bar passes will reduce the degree of knee bend, etc.
And yes, there are coaches who believe the scoop should be intentional, and those coaches and I disagree, although there are cases in which it must be taught, such as certain athletes who’ve developed odd habits of over-extending the knees, or trying to KB swing their pulls, who don’t respond to less meddlesome interventions.
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[@gm1799]

I literally have been going through a tear of googling about the double knee bend after reading an old weightlifting textbook where the writer says it's the most important part of the lift.

[@iowa_don]

1:47 - Props for the two thumbs up!

[@fastbusiness]

Thanks. I never truly understood the double knee bend until now.

[@seawhales1000]

Appreciate this. One of those things that are extremely important in a lift yet done naturally without thoughtful purpose 👍

[@hamm0155]

Thank you. So well presented and so helpful. This cleared up a lot for me and your jump demonstration was brilliant.

[@diemme568]

excellent analysis

[@riccagiaco]

Great as always, thanks

[@Damzified]

I like the full technical name for it! Glad you made that video and somewhat surprised that you had yet to, considering the type of nonsense that we used to see and hear in years past (and perhaps still do?) even coming from prominent coaches. Teaching the power position along with even weight distribution under the feet during the first pull should take care of "the scoop"... In other words it's a symptom, not a technique!

[@CatalystAthletics]

I actually did make this video previously - in both 2014 and 2018, along with an article in 2016, and book in 2008. I'm just updating some old videos as I have time.

[@Damzified]

@@CatalystAthletics I see, I should not be surprised... The amount and quality of work that you put out for free is incredible and your library of videos and articles on WL is invaluable. A combination of extensiveness and concision that isn't approached by anyone else. Thank you!

[@glasstransition]

I could not stop lazily/impatiently shoving my knees forward after the first pull, which just interrupted and delayed leg drive and stalled the bar to a standstill before extension.. the only things that helped me were slow/tempo pulls to just above the knee and then aggressive completion of the lift and methamphetamine.

[@rsg833]

Nice vertical Coach …..and video 🔥🔥🔥

[@timhamilton5699]

Nice jumping double thumbs up! Can we expect to see this movement on the Train Heroic app soon?

[@CatalystAthletics]

Too advanced

[@nathanwendt2202]

What I have found interesting for myself is how much better and more natural the second pull and vertical drive from the power position is in my snatch versus a clean. If I, for example, take a wider grip for a clean, it tends to work a little better, but then the turnover suffers. A normal grip width results in bringing the hips into the bar and the bar kicking forward some. Is this at all typical? I would certainly be curious what some common reasons for this discrepancy might be.

[@CatalystAthletics]

Yes normal - snatch is easier/more natural because the bar contact point is the hips; clean is upper thigh, meaning the bar-body interaction is more complicated because of the knees/thighs being forward at the time of contact, which is why it improves with a wider grip (moves contact point up).
th-cam.com/video/G8IDYxaBuec/w-d-xo.html

[@stanza2768]

I have shorter legs and a comparatively strong hip in relation to my quads. Is that why I scoop later?

[@CatalystAthletics]

It may be at least part of the reason

[@Sigmalicinius]

I disagree because I struggled with this and have been working on it til this day. Especially with the clean.

[@AwestaKhalid]

Hey Greg, not that I’m complaining but I”m curious why you only show women demo-ing in your vids?

[@CatalystAthletics]

I use the lifters I coach, and I coach very few men.

[@MrVolvobloke]

There are very few lifting clubs in my area, but those those that are here are also predominately women lifters.

[@GZA036]

1:43 lmfao