Is This the Perfect Rod for Fishing Small Creeks? (Tenkara Fly Fishing)
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- In this video I fish with the Dragontail FoxFire zx280 rod. It's a triple zoom rod, meaning that it can be fished at three different lengths. Theoretically, it's perfect for fishing very small streams. How does it fare in reality?
DATE FILMED: August 2021
LOCATION: Idaho
GEAR USED
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** ROD: Dragontail FoxFire
** LINES: 7-foot level line (#3.5) with a few feet of tippet
** FLY: Size 12 Idaho Killer Kebari
** NET: Medium Measure Net with rubberized net bag
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Thanks for watching, everyone. Here's more info on the rod: dragontailtenkara.com/products/foxfire-zx280-tenkara-rod
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I've been using the Mizuchi from watching your channel and boy it's a nice rod. My area unfortunately is very limited in small trout streams that I would like to use in, but its still a very versatile and well-balanced rod!
@TenkaraAddict - Is it better with a level line or a floating pvc line?
Love all your videos! I’m not a Tenkara fisher but fly fish, but your videos inspire me to try new places.
Another awesome video well done some really nice fish
Awesome video thanks for the rod review! I’ve been eyeing the Foxfire for a while and will definitely support the kick starter for one 👍👏👏
great video as usual I downloaded a bunch of your videos to ride out hurricane. Even though I don't fish for trout I really get alot of enjoyment and relaxation from watching you .
Love your adventures. Keep posting your videos I am a new subscriber and I love the outdoors
Love theses videos… So much so, I ordered an entire Tenkara set up after binge watching 70% of your uploads.
Then my work here is accomplished!
@@TenkaraAddict twice.....
thrice.....
yep me too 😂
I've been binge watching your videos for 2 days and now i have to order another new fishing setup. Thanks a lot! lol!
I received my Dragontail Foxfire two weeks ago. Went directly to the Shenandoah National Forest but no trout biting that day. Went to a local creek in Alexandria Virginia and caught an 8" creek chubb and a bunch of 3-4" chubb. The Rod has a slow casting action in longest and middle length. Nice at shortest length. I think Dragontail Tenkara makes excellent produts!
Great rod, great info, great vid
Thank you for this review. As always, your reviews are credible and “real world” angling experience based. Where I fish in the East (small native brook trout streams), a rod like this looks like it could become my “go to” regular. Hope the rods are in stock soon. Thanks again for a great video!
Thanks Michael, I'm glad it was helpful! Seems like it would be perfect for brook trout streams.
Beautiful scenery , stream and fish . Awesome !
Thanks for watching!
Another great video thank you for sharing!
Thanks John!
the fishing is so fun I really like your videos and always support you
Thanks, I appreciate it!
OK, OK, you broke me down. I just ordered one of those rods and a nice furled 9-foot line to go with it. I live in West Virginia, where there are tons of small native brook-trout streams, and this rod looks darned near perfect for fishing them. As a fly fisherman with more than 40 years' experience, I look forward to trying some tackle that's different from what I'm used to. Thanks for the vid, and thanks for this channel!
Awesome day on the water. Beautiful fish ! I am amazed by the effectiveness of tenkara on this type of creek. Glass rods do bend more than graphite and sometimes a stronger hook set needed, in my experience, but you did great. Thanks for sharing.
This kind of stream is a perfect situation for tenkara. Thanks for watching, Ed!
Nice stream, lots of pools and runs. Beautiful fish👍👍👍👍👍
Just what I've been looking for.
Happy to hear it!
I'm stoked to back this rod when Brent posts to Kickstarter. I love the innovation and fiberglass is such a cool way to do something different from all the other rod makers.
It's a nice little rod! Thanks for watching, Jim.
Great video!
Fishing mostly in Apilachian I can appreciate the length ! My Shawdowfire is limited due to so much growth.
Looks like another mighty fine day OTW!! Appreciate you bringing us along!!
Yeah, any 12-foot rod (like the Shadowfire) isn't going to cut it on overgrown streams. Thanks for watching, Michael.
I love your videos. I recently discovered tenkara fishing and love the concept. Most of the streams near my home are smaller creeks. I love your net. Is it a small or medium measure net?
Dude! your number one!
Dude at this point I think you can open a tenkara museum :) Cool vid as always.
I've come to look forward to your new vids. They always deliver just what I need; a little solitude alongside a clear stream. It says this rod has already SOLD OUT. If DRAGONTAIL TENKARA reads this comment, they should send you one each of their entire inventory. You did them a solid that was worth a hundred times more than $179.99.
Hi Tim. As I mentioned in the video, the rod isn't even available yet. It'll be on Kickstarter in October. Thanks for watching.
I'd be tempted to get the rod (if available) & I don't fish anymore!
Gorgeous creek and fish; great video!
Wanted you to know; anywhere I stopped the video, the water looked like painted scenery; like it'd been brushed on canvas; "gorgeous"!
Thanks for taking us along!
Great stuff~
Thanks Koof!
Amazing video! What kind of gear are you wearing to hike these creeks? Which boots and waders?
Once again, great video. What length line are you using? Oh, helps if I expand the comments section. 7' level with short tippet. Now I just have to figure out how to access kickstart program.
Hi Tristan, another very nice vid. About short zoom rods, not sure but the Tanuki Golden Trout is a 6'6" to 8" lenght soft rod. Would love to see you review it
That is one I'd like to try, for sure. I'll see if I can make it happen next year. Thanks Carlos.
You have a great way of working a stream. How far are you typically casting out in front of you?
I absolutely love 3wt fiberglass fly rods. Slow as molasses and can load under just the weight of the rod. MUCH more durable as well. I can see where it would be greatly desirable among tenkara fisherman.
Durability is something I didn't mention, but that's a good point. Thanks Justin!
Ordered 12/13/22. Appreciate your review on it. Really was helpful. Honestly I wouldn't have done so if your review was less complimentary. The (my) Shadow fire 365 is just too long for N. Ga. (Home base)
Cutbow. That was funny!
That's what they're called: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutbow
me and most of my tenkara friends have preordered ours
Great video once again! Thanks for all of your reviews. Check out the Maruki Sharpshooter by Wastach Tenkara Rods. They offer it in the 7:3 and 6:4 action. It's a triple zoom shorty as well..
I've got the 6:4 on order
Another small rod is the Maruki Sharpshooter from Wasatch Tenkara Rods. You should try that one!!!
You asked if there is a shorter triple zoom available. Wasatch sells a slightly shorter triple zoom rod that has more backbone for better hook sets and managing larger fish in tight streams.
Hi Tristan,
Than for your dreaming video of tenkara....
( I'm French, sorry for my bad English 😁)
Actually using nissin 360 6/4 tenkara rod , il will buy a firefox.
So I will be happy to have your opinion about the better line you have cast with.
Lengt and material...
I thinks this rod have more flex than mine, cause it's in fiberglass, and I don't knows if I must use less weight or more weight line, more short or long one etccc.
Thanks for your answer.
Have fun with tenkara
Hervé
Just bought my first tenkara rod! Maybe I'll see you in the rivers of Utah 😂
I'll be around!
In the beginning of your video you mentioned not understanding fiberglass and carbon fiber. The difference is that glass is a slower action. Typically a full flex rod and the carbo fiber is typically a faster action ( mid-tip flex). The glass is a better choice on smaller streams, it gives the line and fly a softer touch as it lands on the water. The only downside is that the glass is heavier than carbon fiber. Personally this difference will be a factor the longer you fish. But not to the point to where your arm is too sore/tired to keep going. Orvis did have a finesse series that were carbon fiber but they switched to glass when glass started to become poplar again. Older glass rods weighed a ton years ago. I have one that is about 60yrs old that I do not use. Just too heavy and old for my liking. But like I mentioned earlier. Glass is a better choice on small streams. It has somewhat of a bamboo feel to it. This is what I have experienced anyways. If you get a chance, I highly recommend you fish the Smoky Mountains on the Tenn or NC side of the park. You won’t be disappointed.
have you tried the Tiny Ten 2 before? if so, how does this new DT rod at mid-length compare to the TT2? thanks.
There is another rod out there that just came on the market that is a triple zoom. It’s the Sharpshooter by Wasatch Tenkara Rods. It’s 6’/7.6’/9’ I haven’t used it yet but it should be showing up next week. This rod look fun too so I might have to get it as well when it is available to purchase. As always, it’s fun watching your videos.
I'll look into it. Thanks 👍
@@TenkaraAddict you’re welcome!
Which rod would you recommend more the Muzuchi or the Fox Fire. I’m contemplating my first tenkara rod and have whittled my selection down to one of these. Thanks in advance.
You’ve fished the zx280 and the Dragontail Mizuchi ZX- which is better (IYO) for small streams/tight cover?
Would you show us the flies that you use ?? -- Did that rod have some sort of locking mechanism when you changed lengths ?? Thanks for the great videos
I often use the same fly in many of my videos, so I'm not going to show it in video after video. The name of the fly I use is always listed in the video description, and you can Google it to see what it looks like.
Seems like a nice rod. I've never fished glass, either with Tenkara or with 'traditional ' fly rods. I'm about to find out about the qualities of bamboo; I was going to pick it up on my next trip to the Smokies next month-I might have to push it back to November due to Ida...it's a mess down here.
Sorry to hear that! I'd be interested in fishing a bamboo tenkara rod at some point in the future.
@@TenkaraAddict I fish a lot of glass fly rods (western type). To me they feel and act very much like bamboo. Slow action and much smoother than carbon fiber. I am really looking forward to this rod's introduction, I see it as a perfect match of new and old technology.
What length line did you use here? When you used the 9' length, how did it fish at 6'? Thanks, greats bids as always
Line length is always listed in the video description. I believe it was 7 ft here. Not sure what you mean by your question, sorry!
Wet flys are all you fish with?
*sigh* Another rod I have to buy...too bad it's not yet available. A perfect size-range for the fishing I do.
It's fun to have new toys to play with!
Same here
Gorgeous creek and lovely trout, but that garish green rod... I dunno.
Ordered my first Tenkara rod. Taking forever to get here. Already wanting a shorter one because of course..
Sorry to hear about the shipping woes! And yeah, buying new rods can be a bit of an addiction...
You mentioned the casting in all three lengths. Did each length set the hook and manage the (larger) fish well in the tight space?
Yep, didn't have any problems hooking the fish on each length.
Just found out about the Wasatch Tenkara Maruki Sharpshooter. Have you got this rod on your radar?
From what I've read, it's way too stiff to interest me.
@tenkaraaddict (or fam) … when you use the “bow and arrow” casting technique are you grasping the fly and drawing back the line or are you grasping a different section of line? If the latter, what stops the hook from whipping upward and sticking in your hand or clothing?
I grab the main line (furled line for me). I wouldn't want to put that stress on the tippet or fly knots. Also, pinching the tippet would be difficult. The fly dangles down and you hold the line from above. The rod is bent sideways so it doesn't shoot the fly up towards your hand.
Grabbing the fly leads to the most accurate casts, but it's impossible to do if the line is longer. In that case, I'll grab the knot where the line and tippet meet. Occasionally I'll get stuck with the hook, but usually it passes by just fine.
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I wish I was able to just walk around and fish all over the beautiful west..
It's pretty great!
Have you fished with the Maxcatch triple zoom rods? I could not find any credible reviews for the maxcatch triple zoom
I haven't, but it will likely be heavy and stiff. I have the Maxcatch Tenkara Mini and really dislike it. It looks like they've got a couple of triple zoom rods. Which one are you looking at?
@@TenkaraAddict - I am relatively new to fly fishing - currently using a $7 Chinese rod. I am looking at the shorter of the maxcatch zoom rods as an upgrade. I have only fished in north georgia - streams have lots of overhang. I saw your review of the mini, that has given me reservations. However I want to stay in the $50-$60 price range.
Nothing in that price range I've tried would I qualify as being good. It might be fishable, but it won't be good. That said, fishable might be good enough for what you want it for.
@@TenkaraAddict thank you for your input - I will continue to research before I make a final decision - I do enjoy your videos - trying to learn / enjoy being outdoors and maybe catch a fish
With.the triple zoom rods. What length do you use for fly line and leader. Thank you for your time.
I use the length of line that feels most appropriate for the stream plus 2 or 3 feet of tippet. In this case, the line length was I think 7 feet plus the tippet.
@@TenkaraAddict thank you that answers a lot of questions. Being a fly fishermen you have to think outside the box with tenkara. And working small streams in upper Georgia are totally different.
@@maknifeandrods7701 That is true. Same for small streams here in Nebraska and I mean small, two to three feet across but with some of the prettiest Brook Trout I have ever seen. All the creeks are choked with trees and weeds so short rod is essential. I look forward to this rod being introduced, I will buy it as soon as its out.
That doesn't go to full length by accident on a hard cast does it?
Nope, I've never had that happen on any of my adjustable-length rods.
we have subscribed to your channel,.. your videos are very interesting, we support you ❤️❤️👍
Do you think placing a polarizing filter on your camera lens would improve the viewers' view of those fish under water? Would the camera's exposure automatically accomodate for it? Just a thought. Tenkara fishing is definitely tugging at my wallet. It would compliment a Hobo fishing rig, too, I think.
It has a polarizing filter on it
@@TenkaraAddict Oh.
How do u get all these new rods? Lol Sponsors?
As I said in the video, Brent sent me this rod to test out. I think I'll be sending it back at some point. I buy all of the other rods with money, same as everyone else lol.
Good video. But why are so many of these rods so brightly colored? Doesn't this just make it more obvious to the fish?
I think the answer is that it makes it more appealing to the angler, not the fish.
Where can I purchase Idaho Killer Kabari flies as I don’t tie flies.
In tenkara flys don’t matter as much . If you are going for trout I recommend most flys on tenkara USA and dragon tail
As far as I know, they're not available to purchase anywhere.
@@TenkaraAddict Great video, Tristan. If you would like to edicate yourself more on rod making materials and the construction of rod blanks and design considerations, consider picking up a copy of: The Technology of Fly Rods, by Don Phillips. Some of the texts of book is available on line...Karl.
Never again a Dragontail noodle rod for me, once is already too much.
What rod did you get from them that's a noodle? I own several of them and wouldn't describe any as a noodle.
@@TenkaraAddict The Mutant which does not transfer well the energy from the hand to line. Result, cast poorly lightweight Kebary (no problem with heavy fly) and hookset is weak which cause a lot of miss and loss.
@@quetzalrc Interesting. I have been using the Mutant for about 6 months on lakes and streams here in Nebraska and have not experienced your problems. I use small (size 12-16) flys for almost all my fishing and it loads well and casts well at all lengths, for me. I use two kinds of lines, a furled line and at level 3.5 mono line. All at about 10' with a three to four foot tippett. I have a "Noodle" rod that I built many years ago for salmon fishing the Ausable river in Michigan, and in truth I could not call the Mutant a noodle. Sorry it isn't working for you can it be the line you are using?
@@johnwright4781 I started with my usual setup 12' #3 level line, 4' X6 tippet and size 14 kebary. I tried various size and length, 10' line is the maximum for the Mutant otherwize any bow cast fail with light kebary. Currently, the setup I use is a 10' Fujino Soft Tenkara tapered line with 3.5' X6 tippet.
OK, what I found is that it took some time to get the feel of the rod. Tristan's videos encouraged me to keep trying. I almost had to learn to cast all over again, but then I have had that same issue with some western rods too. My first outing or two I kept puddling my line, it just didn't feel right. Then I concentrated on the basics, moving the rod in a vertical as opposed to some other plane and stopping at 12 o'clock. I had to change speed a little but once I got the rhythm down the rod behaved beautifully. I started with a 3.0 line, but figured it needed more weight so went to the 3.5 and I think the combination of increased line weight and technique were the answer. Now its my go to rod for all lakes and large streams (My channel is Tenkara Nebraska). I use Mizuchi for smaller streams and look forward to this new rod this fall for what I call "Micro-Streams".
For catch and release like you did here, were you using barbless hooks?