Bristow & Sutor Enforcement JUDGEMENT: Show Us The ORDER!
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The important part being it should not cost a penny to petition a court to get remedy either!
By putting the enforcement company on notice before they even turn up then you can double or triple your payout and bring them into the scope of breaching the harassment act 1997
Correct - you are seeing the links :)
That also becomes Criminal harassment, which is an indictable offence, do not expect the Police to make any arrests though, instead study how to prosecute Police Constables for nonfeasance
Its amazing how Marc can articulate and decipher all this wording which people just get so lost and confused in, huge respect and appreciation to Marc, Bryan and everyone at peacekeepers .
most definately
THE DAM IS ABOUT TO BURST...keep chiselling away guys...I'm with you 100%...just fighting these mafia myself....HAPPY NEW YEAR. .
Brilliant Gentleman!
Thanks for all your hard work
You are appreciated for all the time and effort you guys put into this and bringing it to the people 🙏 this information is gold🙏
Love it.❤
The show goes on
Question..I have sent dsars and foi requests for disclosure of who is the signature on the summons as well as the notice of liability orders.
My council is not replying...
I have said to them its full disclosure, and they are in contempt of courts by witholding...
Still ignored...
Looking to bring to the judges attention in March..💥
Without that information they have no proof of any LO ( Its exactly the same squiggle jpeg picture since 2018!)
Remarkable...its against all electronic signature laws!
So by witholding they have no proof..💥boom
By sending the name it will put that person in the frame. Lets face it the person is a fake, they are not real and the council have been found out.
They know i know its a fake.
I know they know its fake..
😂
You also have them in breach of GDPR
Nice one!
And with this judgement it gives us the tools to sue them for not answering our notices with reasoned rebuttals!!!
How can the council not be held partially accountable? As B&S were acting on the instructions of the council, for them to not produce the legal documentation to support what they are instructing they are surely partly responsible?
Can the bailiffs hide the warrant from the public?
Thank you so much for this video. Bristow and Sutor have come to my house on a Sunday morning .The man isn't even registered as a bailiff. I feel like its going to get worse the harassment and im only beginning to learn my rights through good people like yourself sharing the information
So basically if there is no written liability order signed and produced by the judge on court paper and there is no court record of the case/liability order then doesnt it basically make it hearsay??
Yes exactly. No legal weight for their claims which means they shouldn’t be able to do anything because they can’t prove their claims.
I’m not interested in money or council tax, I am angry at having my name screwed with at birth by fraud. Its a disgrace, It’s not about using it court to escape things it’s about the cheek of if and it being a tool the social services need to take kids. If your kids aren’t registered they can’t steal them.
you need to go through the basics - strongly suggest you do the free courses as your belief is way off the truth :(
"which shall not exeed three months"
Jailed for a civil matter, what crime was commited ?
amazing work guys
Thank you
These guys hammard my old aged neighbour it was a horrible affair. And it was a mistake by the dvla.
I think the bit of paper is FOR the people ..
Interesting that the Judge applied the first principles of contract and yet ruled out the lien on the grounds of "no meeting of the minds" and that they (B&S) were pursuing no contract!
It would be interesting to see how the claimant set out his lien. A lien has to be set out with elements to rebut yet in this ruling the Judge seems to have taken an excerpt.
If the Judge has ruled out a notarized Lien based on there was never a meeting of the minds this has HUGE implications.
This is one of the things which will be analysed separately in another video... as it has obvious implications regarding especially PCN's :)
@@marchorn466please share your link to this 🙏
No third party right was wondering if this case law would help in debt collector trying to enforce a claim no deed of assignment
I've been reading this judgement very interesting indeed Debbie
Has anyone got a link for the judgment transcript?
i need to sue the council for 5 years of harassment plus 2500 in fake errears plus they trying to get another 600
I find it hard to get my head round all this as I wish I had time to really study it all but I work 6 days a week and have so much else to do 🥴
I hope and pray that some lawyers etc wake up and want to start doing the right thing by us.
Maybe these compensation lawyers that pop up for things like PP insurance etc may eventually pickup on this but I think we need lawyers that are trained to represent us to start this ball rolling faster and faster 🙏🙏
@@Chlav-144 I reckon there are good ones that feel stuck in a bad system 🤔😉
@@Jimmy-ew2xeso we need to be the 'nudge team' to help support them... once one is successful for breaking out then the rest will rapidly see the future is in ethical services...
Work your way through the free courses at your own pace - you will be a amazed how much you already know.
@@marchorn466 I completed the course about a year ago but have forgotten much.
I am gradually getting it into the ol grey cells 😄
Practice makes perfect.
@@marchorn466it may be known but its a different matter when it comes to going to court and knowing how to use that knowledge.
In short the administrators (court/council) are a lazy bunch of bums, who are thinking about last nights meal or bunk up and cant be arsed to even bother to administer proceedings correctly.. The judges, the court staff have failed due process of law which is a failure of law. Get out!!!!!!!!
I V 'E HAD A CHARGE PLACED ON MY HOME AT LAND REGISTRY BASED ON A GRANTED LIABILITY LET ALONE ALL THE THREATS LEADING UP TO THAT POINT.
But you can refuse this charge I hear as the registrar will contact you that's why you probably know about it, the council can claim lots of stuff but can they prove it.
wow great news
Basically under Leighton vs Bristow and Sutor they have to provide a stamp from the court to prove the debt. But many years ago councils sent it to a court where it became oral decisions by clerk of court. So baillifs can't provide what they need to provide. So therefore Leighton sued them and was awarded 4k in damages plus interest for compensation for not only not having the right paperwork but also harassment because they didn't hsve the authority to collect the money. Nobody needs to know the long drawn out waffle.
Without the "long drawn out waffle" you would have no painstakingly researched evidence to form the basis of your understanding of the "court's" wrong doing. Peacekeepers is about educating yourself so that you can be Leighton and successfully take these people to task.
Does this apply for the likes of utility companies also ?
dont know if its my computer but i always struggle to hear whats being said
This is an incorrect summary of the case. Your assumption that the issue in this was all about “what is or is not a Liability Order” is misguided. The Judge plainly says it was not and the issue of what is or is not a Liability Order was not a question for the Court to resolve in this case. The Court did not address that issue and was not required to do so. The central question was “what does authority mean within the meaning of paragraph 26 of Schedule”. Bristow and Sutor argued it meant the council’s authority until I forced them to concede it didn't, at which point they attempted to argue it meant paragraph 7 of Schedule 12 or in the alternative section 63. However, my submissions did not argue that the word authority meant Liability Order. On the contrary, it is my position that a Liability Order would not satisfy paragraph 26.
The judge did not rule on the point of validity. I had a wealth of submissions on this point, it was actually my strongest point. If the judge had ruled on this issue I would have won just on the issue of service in and of itself as I could prove three of the summonses were served at the wrong address. I had other very strong arguments on the instrument being defective. However, the Judge said he had to remind himself that as the City of York Council were not a party to proceedings they have not had an opportunity defend their position so he confined his findings to the actions of Bristow and Sutor hence why the judge said
“Whether Article 6 of the Convention on Human Rights is engaged, or whether or not the “form of the order” is capable of challenge is not, in my judgment, central to the resolution that I must resolve in this case.”
The Court never made findings that the Liability Orders are valid, what constitutes Liability Order, or indeed what the correct format of a Liability Order is. What the Court had to consider is whether on the balance of probabilities did the Magistrates’ Court “pronounce” the orders? Hence he held
“What is relevant is that I am satisfied, on the balance of probabilities, that the Magistrates’ Court indicated they were granting liability orders against those shown in the list on the “days” in question”
He did not say that the process before, or after they were pronounced were valid, only that he found they granted the order. He even said the author's name is not legible. In fact his wording seems to question the validity of the Liability Orders. There are three reasons for this. Firstly when he addressed my argument that the instrument was defective (which is the same as an invalid argument), he never dismissed my argument on the basis the instrument was valid, but rather held that the Defendant held a reasonable belief it was not defective. He exonerated them on the issue of an invalid order on the basis of their belief alone, not on the basis the order was valid. The second reason why he questions the validity is he held “For reasons that I have set out above, there is a danger in conflating Mr Leighton’s grievance with the City of York Council with the position of the defendants. “Mr Leighton’s Article 6 argument is a case in point”. Whilst I have made such observations as I am able about the process adopted to obtain liability orders, I remind myself that City of York Council are not party to the proceedings, and therefore have not had the opportunity to argue their position in detail. I have confined myself to the position of the defendants, who, as enforcement agents, are rightly subject to the regulatory framework of the 2007 Act.”
The third reason because he said the procedure was ripe for reform and identified some issues in the process but they were restricted to observations rather than forming part of his judgment
The issue of validity was not addressed, and contrary to this video, the case was not about what is or is not a Liability Order
Also, the Judge did not get it “wrong” in regards to the record of the Magistrates. In my skeleton, I included Rule 62, 66 and 32 as well as Regulations 33-35. I also included many other statutory instruments about a “proper record” of proceedings and historic common law judgments to define what a proper record actually means. Proper record meaning just that as opposed to no record. I tried obtaining a Memorandum of Entry, and Bristow (via the Council) also applied for certification, but York Magistrates’ Court ignored us both. I had York Magistrates’ Court listed as a defendant in a separate case against them back in 2018 so they did not want to touch this case with a barge pole, hence their reluctance to even respond, let alone provide any paperwork. The Judge could only go off what he had in front of him. I even showed the Judge my emails to the Magistrates' Court and my follow up requests for documents, all of which were blatantly ignored. The Judge, as he is entitled to do, drew an inference that because the Magistrates Court failed to heed to mine (and Bristow’s) request for a record of proceedings that there was none.
29m - the council never made any submissions, they were not a defendant
A full video explaining these misgivings where I shall be sharing some of the submissions made at the trial will be available soon
Insofar as the harassment claim, it is not a “simple” case of putting them on notice. In the judgment it makes it clear that I never, at any point, met with the enforcement agents. All my requests were made via email and letter. They were put on notice many times that their actions were causing alarm and stress, and I sent not just one, but two Pre-action Protocol letters under the PHA. I requested to see their authority six times. They even pursued a course of conduct at my parents house, and my tenants house even though those properties were not my place of abode. This is what a big part of my appeal is about how they can be acting reasonably when pursuing me via my parents and my tenants (where I do not live) after being put on notice multiple times that they were causing alarm and distress and to either 1) show their authority or 2) cease actions.
Fantastic - thanks for your more detailed information which is not reflected in the judgement- I did through others try make contact but to no avail :(
Looking forward to the submission as many will find that helpful :)
1st paragraph - The substance is as pointed out that they failed to evidence authority = no evidence of liability order to enforce the orders given... without being challenged (which you did) that then removed lawful excuse of 'reasonable belief' = damages award.
2nd to 4th paragraphs - Agreed and discussed in video - no judgement made as to what constitutes a valid liability order, however based upon what you have expanded on in your comment that should have been addressed in the judgement as that was a point of law = appeal
5th paragraph - Agreed and discussed in video - I was not sure what you argued and affirmed the judge based his belief on the balance of the evidence a liability order was made.
6th paragraph - Agreed and discussed in video.
7th paragraph - as per first paragraph... The substance is as pointed out that they failed to evidence authority = no evidence of liability order to enforce the orders given... without being challenged (which you did) that then removed lawful excuse of 'reasonable belief' = damages award.
8th paragraph - at this point from what you have expanded on B&S should have returned the file to council and ended all interaction as they were then with the knowledge of having no authority to enforce on reasonable grounds... Again based upon what you have said from the evidence you produced the issue of what constitutes a valid liability order was not addressed by the judge - point of law = appeal
9th paragraph - agreed - this must have come from B&S or yourself. I stand corrected.
10th paragraph - I very much look forward to seeing that - thanks you for sharing your experiences for others to benefit.
11th paragraph - Harassment is evidencing the belief held that a course of action may amount to harassment... and from what you have said as you put them with the knowledge their actions were harassment based upon the argument which won you the damages of having no authority the judge erred in law and you should have been awarded that part of the claim as well = appeal
Thanks so much for sharing and commenting and I am sure not just myself but many many others look forward to seeing more detail when you produce your video.
What you have achieved so far is fantastic - thank you so very much for all you are doing :)
@@marchorn466 I do appreciate it is harder to interpret a judgment when you do not have all the facts available but you did a much better job than BlackBelt Barrister. Yes, I got a message from Darron but I never replied because I tried getting in touch before the trial but Brian blanked me
@@marchorn466 your explanation was way more coherent then the legalese version you commented on
@@wayneleighton7458 Seriously - thanks - what you have done so far is amazing.
I am not sure what went wrong when you made contact before but we are not perfect, and are doing this in our free time as you are.
How exactly did you try and communicate?
I’m in court today got me going to a different town court there saying I’m in Leeds court don’t live in Leeds
iv got sheriff officers coming soon as been notiched with them coming to my door in morning and posting liability order through my door. what can i do ? scotland.
Pay your bill? 🤦🏻♂️
is there a case number i can look up for this please
Is the confirmation of the charter the charter of the forest, or are they separate?
i need a helpline. where is it, please
How do we get hold of this judgement?
Does anybody else find legal speak difficult to understand and absorb? My brain isn't wired this way. I'm better with visual rather than words hence my job as a designer.
I believe what Marc says but I have zero confidence in arguing a case with a council who have their own magistrates.
Marc, do you offer your services to fight council tax?
I also believe that if we rid the country of CT the gov would only introduce another such as Green taxes (theft in my opinion), or just raise taxes.
I think this video is incredibly slow. Like someone reading something slowly. There is a guy who explains Leighton vs Bristow and Sutor outcome in a less drawn out way. Its not you. It's a bad video.
in 40. did Leighton put the court and the defendants in a 'half nelson ?
Is it possible to do a dumbed down version for people like myself who don’t understand all this ?!
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Hi lads thankyou so much for your very intelligent work! Can you do a video on where this government are bringing in mandatory rules on getting people on limited work capability back into work. They say they are encouraging the disabled back into work? Or are they going to force them back into work? 49:17 Many thanks 🙏
Re attachment of earnings; surely the enforcement agent can just cite that he was unable to gain entry to the premises and bang, that's his reporting to the authority and then the AoE can thence proceed?
and if you have AoE you require a copy of the report from the council - do a DSAR and once you get all records then you have the proof AoE was illegal and hence can sue the council for apllying it... Same goes for charges against properties...
I’m ok, it was just a for instance question.
My council somehow managed to find out where I worked (note the past tense) and sent them an AoE; the only problem being that the company ceased trading over a year ago 😁
Love you guys...I'm just watching this now, not seen it all yet, but going to now
I am really interested in this subject & have tried to watch about 6 but cannot handle the casual presentation at all.
Same here, call me thick if you want but it's too casual and needs to be simplified.
How about beginning with a step by step guide setting out the main tenets before proceeding to explain each step for in depth analysis, do you want more people on board or what?
Go through the free courses which lay the foundation...
@@greenlanes5140 Please clarity your understanding of the words ‘casual’ and ‘simplify’, especially in this context.
In my opinion, ‘casual’ and ‘simplify’ could be considered as synonymous in many contexts, including this one, therefore it’s difficult to imagine how the latter could possibly solve the former in any scenario.
First in time, greater in right, is a legal maxim. A legal maxim that is extremely, if not impossible to rebut.
For example,
Did ‘religion’ and the ‘church’ create man, or did man create ‘religion’ and the ‘church’? First in time, greater in right.
Did the ‘monarchy’ create man, or did man create ‘monarchy’? First in time, greater in right.
Did ‘government’ create man, or did man create ‘government’? First in time, greater in right.
Did the ‘Crown Corporation’ create man, or did man create the ‘Crown Corporation’? First in time, greater in right.
Did the ‘birth certificate’ create man, or did man create the ‘birth certificate’? First in time, greater in right.
Did the ‘bar association’ create man, or did man create the ‘bar association’? First in time, greater in right.
Did the ‘health system’ (NHS) create man, or did man create the ‘health system’? First in time, greater in right.
Did the ‘council’ create man, or did man create the ‘council’? First in time, greater in right.
Did the ‘police’ create man, or did man create the ‘police’? First in time, greater in right.
Did the ‘bank’, and ‘financial system’ create man, or did man create the ‘bank’ and ‘financial system’? First in time, greater in right. …i rest my case.
Correct and by showing that in time you will only get an understanding of hierarchy of constitutional principles which show that the people only are equally represented via having full and free access to the independent judiciary thereby making everyone and 'everything' subject to the rule of law which is what the timeline shows...
Hi lads thankyou so much your very intelligent work! Can you do a video on where this government are bringing in mandatory rules on getting people on limited work capability back into work. They say they are encouraging the disabled back into work? Or are they going to force them backinto work? Many thanks 🙏
i pay my c tax on time and still got a fake order from rundles
This discussion all seems pointless if there is no lawful liability or debt in the first place. Should we not be focusing on this?
Would that mean the council would go for attachment of earnings then?
They need a Liability Order from the court first.
They need a Liability Order from the court first.
They need a Liability Order from the court first.
Best video you have done, agree with all except you say except legislations are not laws.
Because legislation is NOT LAW, it say's so on www.legislation.gov.uk.
Did you watch the video 2 video’s back? The difference is explained VERY clearly 👍🏻
You people seem to think A bit of paper is above all humans
very true words
So, is council tax fraudulent or not?
It is on breach of the authority of Parliament who can do nothing to the prejudice of the people in regards their ancient rights and liberties and that means going back in time any tax to live is a breach and without authority and hence illegal (in breach of Bill of Rights) and unlawful as they are demanding and stealing peoples property with menace!
@@Chlav-144 The fraud must first be proven exists...
@@Chlav-144 So by claiming it is fraud you are the prosecution ;) just like you are making claims about what the word 'person' means... words must first be interpreted in their natural meaning... and person is singular of people and if you ask someone on the street they will tell you it means a man, woman or child!!!
A word means what a reasonable person in the population understands it to mean = exit level school English...
This is not the problem!!! We need to focus our energies on the problem and for that we must correctly understand the problem which is they are no more than lawless thugs who take what they want from who they want when they want!!! Once people understand that then all will work together for a lawful solution :)
@@Chlav-144 so, if we don’t pay in the new council tax year from April does that mean you are not participating in the fraud 🤔 Therefore the Council having no claim of obligation 🤔
Classic old school P.K.
46. yet the judge was happy it seems the defendants or rather by way of councils award themselves extortionate punative costs and damages by way of profit !
are councils billing authorities or private for profit duns number corporations ?
Forget all this Dun’s number rubbish, it’s a waste of time and proves nothing nor will it ever stand up in court
@@Eatcrow when you go into a lions den, you play by the lions rules, at that point everything outside the den is rubbish, that doesn't mean everything outside the den isn't real, the moral of the story is, stay out of the lions den in the first place and you won't be eaten.
the lions exist on your calories.
I like your work guys and much appreciate your sharing of knowledge.
In my opinion we are now pussyfooting about in the weeds. We need to be more direct with the councils in particular to hold them to account!
I have a background of 40 years working in Defence for the government. Be in no doubt that our corporate government openly declared war on us in March 2020 with a premeditated military scale psychological attack that had been decades in the planning.
Elements of the police, judiciary and local governments have been complicit in committing acts of treason, sedition and terrorism against the people. It is morally, lawfully and illegal to fund terrorist activity.
Not to mention the crimes against humanity that have been committed under the guise of public health which is just a small part of the agenda which they tried to force on the people.
We are at a pivotal point where all these corrupt structures are about to implode for the better of humanity.
As you so rightly summed up at the end because of pressure from all directions the current legal system will collapse. That is only a small part of what is coming as our governments, health and financial system will be forced to comply to the will of the people! 🙏
@@alungriffiths8611totally agree with your position. Semantics on the lack of due process is nothing compared to what's been and being implemented by a lawless government and handed down to local government who are wilfully blind or ignorant or corrupt. My line in the sand was when council care workers were sacked for not having an experimental injection.
what now ?
when the courts, Parliament whatever change the rules, acts, legislation yet again to cover the breakthroughs in court what do we do then ? what they create the also change.
There is talk that king Charlie is considering abdicating. How do we stand if the monarchy was to collapse ?
Would our constitution collapse or are there safeguards to the possibility of the monarchy collapsing.
Maybe we should try to get them onside with we the people and our constitution somehow.
He is one of the heads of the WEF !
@@lottytaylor572 WEF are finished 👍
@@lottytaylor572 seems to be what the propaganda says but we will see in due course. That doesn't answer my question though.
28. "i am unable to conclude". this shows the bias nature of a judge and that he was trying to 'enable' the defendant to escape responsibility.
so much for the scales of justice to be equal eh!
Don’t forget many judges are Freemasons!
It doesn't give ppl much confidence In your legal credentials when your covered in tatoos
@lins3082 I'm not speaking about my impression, I am stating the fact that most people don't associate heavily tatood ppl with them been educated on law. I'm not saying whether that's right or even fair but it is a real unconscious bias
If that is your only contribution to the topic then you seriously need to take a good look at yourself in the mirror! Since March 2020 the government and corporations openly declared war against the people with the aim of trying to murder over 75% of the people here in the UK. Thankfully they will not succeed and all those involved in Agenda 2030 the UN, WHO, and WEF transhumanism depopulation and enslavement, which has been decades and longer in the planning.
We appreciate anyone who is trying to help humanity and the people regardless of age, colour, education or background.
You too are at the wrong place wasting your time here... Equity is substance over form!!!
"notice of enforcement" is a million miles from "demand notice". its more like an 'entice'.
How do I contact you guys plz any email address?
through the website - link above