Alien Beginnings...ALIEN 01 THE MASTER NARRATIVE / The First Prometheus Outline
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2019
- After viewing the Prometheus bluray extras, I couldn't wait to make a video about Alien 01, The Master Narrative! Its the first outline for the prequels when the entire journey began. Its interesting to see what has changed, so lets take a look!
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This is why Prometheus is my favourite film, I do love the Alien movies but no film has intrigued me or left so many questions and well generally got me hyped as much as Prometheus. There is so much potential with the Engineers. I love the fact they created life in the universe and ultimately in thier search for Godliness had a hand in creating its dimise.
ı wouldnt call it a demise i believe it actually would be a more certain execution of the Human life at the end of the day we did make david and it was made clear that the planet david caused genocide was a more favoured race lets say more peaceful and have more dignity than the human counterpart on earth' forgeting the films they most certainly would of found out what happened on the planet where the genocide took place and would probably cause a high tech war of revenge on planet earth which we would not have a fighting chance and i mean the Alphas which are a more advanced and powerful race behind the engineers it is said that the engineers are a police' archaeologist's' biologist worker force in the hierarchy so i would have to disagree with demise
@@danyal.alarko i agree, the planet david let the black goo loose was not their home planet, it was just the place that ship had came from, the one the prometheus destroyed. as for the black goo, seeing as the engineers ships are alive, they could of made it so easy if the ship had the black goo as discharge, they found did what it did. the xenomorphs re part tech so it would tie in a lot easier than just they found it ect..
@@leeharris8102 yer i can agree on that hopefully the alien romulus will have a better way of bringing clarity to the matter i need answers lol like the derelict ship in alien 1 and what i really want is a xeno being born from an engineer what a menace that would be
We need an insight like this in a movie form... So we can finally not be confused
ıf they put *genuine* work onto a new movie; I still have far much hope than compared to Star Wars, and even Jurassic World (after the fallen kingdom nonsense)
It's a shame that a lot of the people who watched the first Alpha video never continued watching your videos. These really expand on the lore of this universe.
I like his videos & i watch them. 😊 still subscribed 😊
You always put so much intelligible thought into your videos. It really helps people to broaden their imagination and adds clarity to the story! Thank you so much for your videos.
Thanks Sarah! I love this franchise, and hearing from other passionate fans! The alien universe has so many open questions. I just love delving into it!
Right! Alien was perhaps the first movie i saw in theatre as a child! It permanently traumatized me as it was so damn scary, but at least i had my father's hand to hold on to! A few years later when i saw John Carpenter's "The Thing" which traumatized me even more, i did not have that luxury of a hand to squeeze! :) Anyway, yes, concerning Alien, the Space Jockey was always the single most fascinating thing about that movie. So much mystery! I even had an "iron on" picture of it on a t-shirt as a child. Are iron on's even still a thing? Boy, it has been so long! :)
I will watch anything they make. Really enjoyed both Prometheus and Covenant. Every film has it's own charm for me, and the books are great too.
I agree 💯% with you. Both of the prequel Alien movies were so beautifully done. The music accompanying the film's added so much "magic" to it too!
@@sarahpusey9052 Yep, I thought both were visually stunning and incredibly atmospheric. Fassbender was amazingly nasty throughout!!
@@juniorballs6025 YES! Fassbender was amazing. What a brilliant actor. I was sad to see Dr. Shaw's character, played by Noomi Rapace be killed off. Tragically cut like Hicks and Newt's characters. But in some ways, it made their characters more legendary!!!
@Dog King oh yeah, just like the Dark Horse Comic's Aliens Genocide series! That was an incredible story about the "home world" . That would be a fabulous and much invited movie to add to the franchise!
Prometheus w as great but the engineer should have lived and kidnapped Elizabeth and David. Then the Prometheus should have collided and knocked them down.. killing everyone not on the juggernaut.
The covenant should have been about engineer taking them to their homeworld to put humanity on trial.. only to see that their world has been overrun by xenomorph.
I love that it's kept ambiguous. My issues with the prequels are in the technical mechanics of the plotting. The overarching ideas are totally wonderful.
They have the advantage of doing something that's rarely done on the big screen, instead of just gore and violence. I love the aliens too,their the heart of the franchise. Still,since Prometheus RS introduced a species and idea so new and amazing. The Engineers are so different
Yay!!! Howitzer is back doing Alien material!!!!
It makes me so happy to see your comment here Sarah! Had some issues and couldn't do as many vids for a bit, but I even thought of you when uploading this one!
@@scifiexplained I am very grateful! I've always loved your ideas and amount of well-thought out coverage of the Alien Universe!!! I also completely understand that the wheel of life doesn't always include the things we love and want to do!! But boy am I so happy when I saw that you posted a new Alien video!!
Well done. Clarity is the word that comes to mind. ❤👍🔥
I wish John Spaiths script would have been put on film. It would be awesome to see 15ft tall Engineers interacting with humans.
@sifi explained
Maaaan I would love to see your theories or ideas in an Alien franchise film, all of them!
I would rather see the Engineers being extremely more advanced then what we seen in Prometheus.
Damn this got me excited
Wow I loved this video.Thanks bro
"That their story inevitably had to be tied to our own story, the story of human kind." Such a massive mistake.
Love your videos! I was thinking recently about the prequals
and do hope it gets wrapped up whether it manages to impress people or not.
Maybe a book series would do this story justice
“Altered the DNA of already evolving primates” -Linda Moltin Howe
Good Video!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
I like the idea of the mural of the alien being a warning created. A warning of what happens when you loose control of the pathogen, you create your own angel of death, a xenomorph. Also I find the pathogen to be something that could be explored more as some sort of substance created by the engineers by wiping out a Xeno like race, and the goo is some metaphorical vengeance of this race. By getting infected, one is sort of possessed resurrecting these Aliens as demons seeking vengeance but not literal demons. Maybe the Alien race was once their gods or version of angels that they destroyed to ascend and now David has resurrected them as godless monsters who are perfect organisms. That may explain the Engineers technology or their tech shows the Xeno creatures are their creations whose minds were pulled from some void worse than the engineers thought, they gave these monsters bodies and they will bring them all out of the void! IDK I like the philosophy that the prequels have, which could have been explored upon further.
The mural doesn’t relate to the pathogen directly. If you see at the bottom right of the mural you can see a facehugger like creature - a possible ancestor of the facehugger we see in Alien 1979.
The room had warnings on it stating “Only the chosen can pass through. This is sacred ground and must be kept sacred. If you dare to cross into sacred ground you must be punished. This is the birth place of our Lord and no being is worthy.”
The giant head in the room itself has writing on it which also states “Our chosen one. The chosen one who created our Lord. This is his resting place and our attempt at resurrecting our lords blood.”
This relates to the aforementioned mural showing the impregnation of their “chosen one” and then their “Lord” (First Deacon) in the form of the crucifix above him.
With all of these things to concider, they imply the “Xenomorph” or “Deacon” (a creature which is born by impregnation via a facehugger) already existed and the engineers most likely didn’t create it.
The engineer at the beginning of the movie doesn’t drink the black goo, it’s not the same colour and doesn’t act the same either.
There’s a draft script that came out which correlates almost exactly to what we are conveyed in the documentary itself.
In the draft script it states how what the engineer drinks is in fact the “blood of the first deacon” The creature portrayed in the form of the Cross in the giant head room.
The black goo is the engineers attempt at re creating the “blood of their Lord” after it all supposedly ran out
The engineers created different civilization in the earth to play clash of kingz 🥶🥶🥶😨😨😨😨
Okay, the Engineers in that master narrative sound a lot like the Taelons from Earth Final Conflict.
There was so much to show. However, R. S. And his team, decided to throw away everything.
I just can not understand why?
Thanks for the video.
what is there for you not to understand? Any grand vision needs big financial support. No money means smaller and stupid visions.
You know nothing, duy le snow.
@@josepinheiro292 at least I know that's what they did with covenant. If you have a better answer, please let me know. So far I have not seen any constructive suggestion from you about my answer. But nice ref.
Giger had the best drugs, or a terrible childhood...............
Actually the story of the engineers themselves even outside of aliens seems to be massively interesting lol
That Engineer in the beginning of Prometheus must have come billions of years ago, because that's how life came to be on Earth, where the elder would choose a perfect genetics youngster to sacrifice and probe another planet.
If they are billions of years old, that means they not only might have probed billions of planets, but also they might have become much much more advanced than the one we've seen at the end of Prometheus. They might have mastered even energy, space and time.
They seem to have created some sort of biomechanic technology, maybe they got it over the years of probing. Maybe each time they probed, a new civilization would either join them or rebel against them.
Maybe they really judged humans over their past acts thousands of years ago, but only one group of them went to punish them. Maybe they were the ones the elders were expecting in Planet 4.
Maybe the black goo was originally meant to be just a tool of probing and reproduction of their species, until it was turned into a biological weapon to create natural killing machines.
Did they create xenomorphs? Impossible to tell. They might have found a planet with them, studied one of them and reverse engineered their reproduction system. Specifically, the facehugger.
Did they create humans? Indirectly, yes. They started life in the oceans, leading to the birth of micro-organisms, which over billions of years led to complex organisms such as humans.
Did they have a purpose? Yes, to allow their species to go on. Since they can't breed naturally, they have to do it artificially, but it takes billions of years to get results, so every few thousands of years they visit to register progress.
Maybe the reason they lost reproduction as a species occured due to contact with the black goo itself, OR they might have never had it. We don't know if they were the ones responsible for all this.
Maybe they were created by something else, by a higher being that is beyond our understanding, that would create them to be servants probing the universe. Maybe they're the original biomechanic organisms that came to exist.
It would make sense, biomechanic being creates a creature that is as strong as machines but can't multiply. The perfect worker to execute your tasks. The Engineers might've developed a conscience and then corrupted their creators' idea for a perfect world.
The xenomorph is almost the perfect being, as a perfect weapon, so what was supposed to be a creature that would help their species grow, it's a creature that replaces the previous one, like a plague.
I really want to see more of these ancient biomechanic beings that might be the answer to all mysteries in the Alien universe.
so lovecraftian
These Engineers much resemble the Observers (from the series Fringe) experimenting on themselves, the Alphas resemble a civilisation called the Ancients (from Stargate SG-1) but somehow they are still alive unlike the Ancients, the primordial hunt evolves through the Yautjas and the dark Xeno,Neo,Protomorphs and Deacons. Humanity though is still, on the scale of beings, relatively frail and devolved as if we are without sufficiency and we are a sideline in this universe. I like your version and explanation(s) and in time some of your material will be borrowed to rebuild the overlapping story and timelines.
I don't know if the black goo can do engineers but it can do far more then we know,if you try to fill the blanks you can make up everything, interesteng story though
nice one....as we got what we got, Prometheus is good but it could have been soooooo much better!
They saw like Ash the Xenomorph was a perfect organism
Well, if the last engineer was able to be overpowered and impregnated by the trilobite, then, they weren't as strong as a demigod.
Well you can pick up to where ripley lands on earth after going back to the beginning
For some reason as I watched your vid, I suddenly saw the space jockey as an ascended member of thier race. A taller being who time travelled back to contain some of the critters. Interestingly, I saw this engineer as a being which had evolved it's form into the engineer spacesuit appearence. Could the engineers we have seen actually b dressing themselves in an outfit which matches their intended evolved look?
Lucky in our time we can enjoy coconuts. Poor engineers can't enjoy coconuts 😜
5:58 if that idea is wrong well did they not use the black goo to put life on earth 🧐
I want a Earth Wars movie or Sea of Sorrows.
Excellent info and possibilities it would make sense if the humanoids planted religion also but they themselves became Godlike.
What about the predators its said that they visited earth a long time ago and guided the Humans on earth, how to build and etc.
Edit: nevermind i just saw ur Alpha 2.0 Video 😁 keep it up brother
I dont understand why you brought predators in. It's something made up to make more money. It had nothing to do with Rick scott or the original alien. As far as I am concerned, the original alien is the one true alien universe which only introduced xeno and engineer. All is done by rick scott
Everything interesting about these prequels is in the extra materials. What a shame
Sounds awfully similar to some other famous prequels...
The people destroyed in alien covenant WERE NOT ENGINEERS, they were another people created by the engineers. They looked completely different and where not as advanced as what we saw in Prometheus.
Yes agree! People don't seem to see this! Clearly its another colony planet and the home world hadn't been revealed yet
I love the alien franchise but they don’t connect the films like Star Wars or Star Trek and I find that very confusing so for them to go back and explore the first people or engineers wouldn’t surprise me at all maybe they could answer a few questions on the other films
If you listen to the books they done, I got the impression they lost the ability
I know this would never happen but what would happen if say, a human was in the hive and a xenomorph was behind them.then face hugger lunged at a human and the human dodged it, and facehugged a xenomorph behind that human, or even a face hugger on an android, I have always been curious if this happened
The Space Jockey should have remained mostly a mystery. Hell, our knowledge of dinosaurs is severely limited, so why shouldn't a race from millions of years ago remain unexplained?
That the 'Elephant trunk' is actually just a part of a suit covering a humanoid is so stupid.
Prometheus was so lame, it detracted from the original Alien film. Way to go, Ridley.
Create your own film then
@@santamariamarvy copyright. He'd get sued big-time. Even if it's a fan film. Like star trek axanar
Engineer jesus?! I’m all for it! Makes more sense than what religion teaches us.
@Hannibal Hyde no you go into the time out chair!
How to ruin a franchise, chapter one: Take all the wrong turns.
WGAF about the Xenos anymore, it’s the engineers we all wanna know about know
It looks like they worship the xenonoroph or what came before that
Link to the fake fan script?
Funny how Prometheus and Star Wars prequels are similar.
Both Alien and Star Wars are late-70s movies that are the result of several and diverse creative inputs (Dan O'Bannon and HR Giger for Alien, Gary Kurtz and Ralph McQuarrie and Marcia Lucas for Star Wars).
Both films are wrongly perceived as the work of one man, their director.
And in both cases, Lucas and Scott directed prequel movies, with no involvement of their former collaborators, near-complete freedom, and they brought some obvious thematic contradictions with the older movies.
It really shows that the director is rarely the only one responsible for the quality of the movie, it's a crew.
So Prometheus was basically a derivative, shallow and predictable 'gods were astronauts' story from the very first script meeting. That explains a lot.
They died really easily
It sucks how much sci-fi writers steal from each other. The whole "ascending to a higher plane" idea came from the TV show; Stargate SG-1, which was around long before Prometheus and Ridley's ideas of the Alien/Engineers origins.
I'm sure that idea was around way before Stargate though, all art has inspirations.
You forget '2001: A Space Odyssey' for one, Jeff. Ascension has been a main theme for quite some time now.
What a mess lol
4:40 - 'They abandoned sex and gender'. Interesting, this implies that they originally were a sexed species, presumably having male and female. Were they mammals, with internal gestation? I understand that they now reproduce with artificial means, and they may have modified their bodies to no longer have a sex. But gender? What does gender mean here, that is not redundant? Do you mean the behavioral effects of sex, becuase that is already encompassed within sex. Or do you mean socailly constructed role attatched to sex? Becuase, that's redundant to mention too, becuase without sexes there cant be any social role related to sex, can there? Finally, I question what thw word gender means? Do you mean internal sense of gender identity? Becuase that's never been proven to exist, so I qustion if it's even worth mentioning.
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I wasn’t that impressed by the engineers it’s almost too confusing to be interesting
Turd of people analyzing the scripts like they are psychologists. You didn't write or direct it don't try and explain it.
The writer himself said he hopes people question and analyze it....
When i already read "they abandoned sex and gender". .. NOPE, goodbye.
If they abandoned sex, why did they still appear male?
Also, thanks for telling people that millions of years is more than thousands. I would never have guessed that.
Shame the film was crap/badly written.
A billionaire goes to unknown regions of space invested billions yet has no armed security team or mercs on board for a emergency it just wouldn't happen.
The evolved science elements are good. Doubling down on the corny ass religious shit is not.