Air Brake Chambers (PiggyBacks) Change Out - The Easy Way | Semi Truck Repair & Maintenance
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- Air Brake Chambers (PiggyBacks) Change Out - The Easy Way | Semi Truck Repair & Maintenance
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You da Man! Ryan! Great demonstration
Splitting is genius, learned something new. Thank you Ryan.
Thank you!
great vids man, clear pointers!!! keep up the great work.
Thank you!
Thank you, for the great video.
Your videos are very helpful and informative. I haven’t experienced any of these issues as I’m new to the game but a solid understanding of system functionality is important out there especially if you don’t like getting robbed in the shops.
Thanks for the compliment! I am glad it can be a help!
That was a great course on brake chambers!
Thank you!
Thanks for ur videos, I learning a lot from them !
Glad it helps! 😉
Great video man thanks .
Learning alot from you bro. Thanks for all the easy to follow step by step processes of all things related to truck maintenance and repair. Gonna save me alot of $ when I become an owner op
Good info. 👍
Hello Ryan!
Great content as always and I learned a lot from this video.
Thanks for all you do.
Thank you 😊 done so easy
You are welcome!
Do not struggle with tightening cage bolt , use a 3/8 “ NPT nipple and shut- valve ,supply remote air to the supply side of chamber and apply air . ( 120 lbs. ) Easily install caging bolt .
Yes, chock the wheels and hook up the park hose and let the truck hose do the work. A vice grip on the pushrod after backing off the slack adjuster makes it easy peasy.
It's a brake can! They are so easy to change the right way. Why would you go to the trouble? Do it the right way in under 30 mins. Don't listen to this guy
I took mine apart and only reused the old rod. Mine all had over a million miles so didn’t wanna use the same housing as I had one break on me a few months ago. Just replaced the other 3 today but this method looks way easier. Great video as always👍🏽
Thanks!
Thanks for ur help brother🙏 love what you are doing for the owner op this really helps alot alot 🙏🙏❤️
Great vid 👌
Thank you!
Thank you
I am learning some thing Ryan
Very nice bro. Good to know for some1 new to the industry.
Great!
Very knowledgeable video! So close to doing a abs line video.
Thank you Ryan your video help me solve the problem that I have had for sometime I have gone for one dealership to dealerships cost me over $3500 and no one Solved or fix this problem I just put on the new chamber 80 bucks and solve my problem. God bless you and continue to do what you’re doing.
Wow dealership couldn’t figure out a brake chamber was bad?
Thank you for that video
you are welcome!
Awesome. Ty
You are welcome!
Good info
*Smart dude!*
Thank you! 😊
Awesome 👍
Muy buen trabajo felicidades= very good job congra.
45 yrs at this and very seldom seen a piggyback not have problems Change the whole unit clevis pin and mounting plate corrosion not worth the hassle
🤣 45 years and you see few of these with problems? Bollocks, I'm.not truck engineer but even I get at least 2-3 a week
Thanks
Have you done a video on replacing the oil pan gasket?
One cool guy love your videos getting ready to buy a 14 660 and very helpful
Thank you!
What part of Ohio are you in
Ravenna Ohio
Northeast
I'm a mechanic. Same amount of work. Just change the whole thing guys.😂😅😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂
Lol. I still have the old double clamp short stroke 30/30’s. I’ve told a couple service techs that and they didn’t believe me, they actually wanted to walk out to the truck and look at them. They where looking at them like they were a museum piece 😂
Hi Ryan
Have you ever thought of changing the service brakes on the front drive axle to the piggyback /30 - 30 brake Chambers, so you can have both axles having parking brakes.
Great vids, enjoying the content looking forward to the next vid.
Stay safe and strong to you both, blessings to you Ryan and Sophie.
Not really, you have to run a lot of air lines and not a lot of weight as the rear axle for holding force.
One place I worked... By company policy... They required Spring brakes on all the real Axles... The business was... Construction work. All Tractors & trailers had over weight Permits.. Completely different person going over the road..
I still have the serviceable style piggybacks on my truck. I’ve thought about setting up an experiment and taking the clamp off the spring break from a far distance lol.
Haha, Hold my beer 🍺
Sir you are awesome🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hello, Gary Richmond here, 36 years otr, prior to that 2 years running a service truck. Can't tell you how many times I have rebuilt brake cans. Best wishes on your business. O/O here as well, run your area sometimes, may need some help sometime know who to call
Nice to meet your Gary!
Your lucky to still be around to talk about it. Very dangerous task. Even for an expert, veteran mechanic like yourself who obviously knows what he's doing and how to be smart and careful with such a dangerous job, its still a risk and a gamble every time you rebuild a spring can
One thing that I was taught to help me remember The difference between a short stroke and a long stroke is that it takes longer to walk around a square, than it does to walk a circle
show us your assistant!
When you were cranking down on the spring brake with the wrench, I imagined it like you were pulling the handbrake on a car multiple times.
I think thats a fair way to estimate the force behind the compressed spring's potential energy.
Makes no sense you’d be loosening it😂
Good afternoon, when I changed them to my truck, I replaced the complete unit. Much easier and faster.
Nice video, sir, but I'll just take it to a professional. I would rather not mess up and end up dead or missing a limb or eye trying to replace these. Is there any chance you could do a video on how to replace the S cam and bushings? I saw your video on it, but I'd like to see how you personally do it.
I enjoy your videos sir Years ago I worked in a shop doing tires and one of the other shop guys thought it would be funny 😂 to cut the bolts on the front band that holds that compressed spring in the brake chamber with a torch well I was in the office with the boss man and it sounded like a bomb 💥 went off the boss man ran out into the shop he wasn't too happy thank God nobody got hurt that spring shot across the shop like a rocket 🚀 😉✌️❤️💪✝️🚛🚛🚛🚛🗽🦅🇺🇲
Glad no one got hurt. It is dangerous to cut the bolts.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks for the video, I usually make my brother do this stuff haha! Side note, I'm in Erie and after 2 of your videos I knew you had to be in Ohio.
you are welcome!
Heyyy.heeyy.. quedeezy in the house..darn good information Ryan always loved your videos..keep it up and drop by sometime and visit ya brother driver stay safe..
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@@truckingandfixing absolutely you guys say when and I'm there..thankyou sir for the kind jesture..
The cap on the break chamber should it alway be kept plugged in? Or it can just hang lose ?
Keep it plugged when driving, it keeps dirt out of the hole.
Don't let dirt in your hole lol
I retired Aug 1st after 13 years,now I'm a diesel mechanic.
If you had shop air you could put a fitting in the emergency side. Makes it a lot easier than turning it with a wrench or a ratchet and special socket lol
Just did this but now my parking break is not releasing and sucking the rod back in ? Any suggestions. The rod seems to stick out further now for some reason. Did a piggyback change if that helps .
Im not a mechanical advisor so take this with a grain of salt, but he mentioned that there's long stroke and short stroke piggybacks. You might have the wrong one 🤷♂️
I know this doesn’t have to do with the video but I’m going to be buying my first truck soon I’m coming over to Landstar. I like kw. I’ve driven a Freightliner a Volvo and a KW as a company driver and I’m currently in a KW T680. I was trained on a 13 speed manual when I got my license but for the last two years I’ve driven an automatic as a company driver so I’m fine with either one. Is there a certain motor I should be looking for? I would probably like to spend around 60,000. I know when you’re older videos you said to send you an email but when I checked your about me it says business only so I wasn’t really sure how to ask you some questions besides posting on here
Just send me an email, I will help you on it! 😊
Are there any other ways to cut off the clamps like using a grinder… I’m a novice just wondering.
Do not cut it.
Just use a 9/16" wrench, it literally takes one minute to take it off.
Does that old spring on the service side ever get weak?
Usually not, but can happen.
The service spring can break and not give full force which can make you think there's something wrong elsewhere.
Commenting on the video for the algorithm
Thank you!
This method was different yet fun
If you just wanted to change the diaphragm, you still have to remove the airlines like you did in the video? I just bought a truck and I suspect i have one if not more than 1 bad diaphragm
No, you don't need to disconect the airlines. You can get the diagram for about $5.
I’ve pulled the brk chamber off and pinched off the air lines on one of my drives to get me out of bind instead if waiting 8 hours for a mechanic.
I have used plastic cable ties before if you something leaking.
Mate easy way to put the key in the back add shop air to it and then wind nut in by fingers
Haw can check air brake chamber no working?
Couldn't you cage the service side by applying the parking brake? Reason I ask is my diaphragm is busted, leaks so bad it won't push the rod out.
I didn't wanna be that guy but this can be done by a one arm Florida Man wearing a pirate patch with a good adjustable and a broken hacksaw blade during a cat 5 hurricane at night while fighting off 3 alligators. But what do I know after 35 years in the business.
You could of simply added air the parking brake port to cage the chamber instead of wrenching it.
Ryan, what brand of brake chamber it is? Where I can buy it?
I got mine from Napa.
@@truckingandfixing Thank you, Ryan
That won't work if you're broken down on the road or at a truck stop or weigh scale. $1000 of tools to change a $200 brake chamber doesn't make sense either. All you need is a wrench, and a hacksaw.
Thank you
My thoughts exactly
Just change the whole thing.
ok lesson #1 when you caging the chamber you first put air to the emergency side then put the cage bolt in lock it and put a little tight to it then release the brake
Call me old fashion but......why not just change the whole thing? It seems like this process takes longer. Why not just cut the rod to length and install the entire new brake chamber? huh?
Or just get the pre cut ones and replace the entire chamber
Holl ryan
My only question is IF THE CHAMBER IS A TICKING TIME BOMB, why put it in the scrap pile for someone else to get hurt? Why not take your torch and cut the spring? Aka defuse the time bomb!
Is so much easier to measure the old chamber and cut the new one to length. It would only take 20 - 30 minutes with a hangover. I’m not saying, just saying.🥴
Plus if you get confused on which band to take off it may cost you in the end
Vice grips, not channel locks.
I clicked and saw 47 min video lol
I think if you don't put air in the service brake, the spring won't pop like that.
No, the spring won't pop, it can make it difficult to clamp on the piggyback.
You should cage the old brake chamber. This is so wrong how you do it and putting other apprentices in a serious accident. You don't hit piggyback like that and the slack adjuster you adjust it 1/2 not 1/4. 1/4 is too tight and can cause brake failures , damaging the brake lining and even the brake drum itself. Where did you get your truck License?
Some guys can pull off suspenders and this guy cannot
Long stroke is 30/36
So John Cryer became a deisel mechanic after Charlie Sheen got hooked on crack and ruined their sitcom deal on "2 and a half men" ? 😂
I wonder how many people have been hurt or killed by one of them springs😬
Too many he just broke the golden rule to not mess with a can with a broken power spring if it can not be caged safely to retract whole power spring you always replace complete unit , that spring still could have force enough to take his head off when he put torch to it, he got lucky people please don't do what this guy did.
You do realize... Rod goes right through whole canister... Mary times the rod in the middle of the canister... Will leak air... If you have a truck that runs a North East all the time... Just change the whole canister.... Just believe me... Too much salt/Calcium chloride on the road. Also Change the clavis and pins
As I said in the video, if the canister and rod in good condition, no need to change it out. But of course, if needed, change the whole unit is necessary. Thanks for the comment!
Is it proven 1 hour of savings.. I've never actually done it yet but To cut the rod off takes literally less than 5 minutes and it looks like only 2 bolts are holding the whole canister on. And you should probably service the pen and slack adjuster anyways. So it looks like it is less time to do the whole unit at once.?
I’m late to the party but this was hard to watch. You took a brand new chamber apart to keep from having to cut the rod and to save an old rusty service side pancake. I could’ve measured and cut the rod before you got the parking side caged.
I usually like your videos but this was the most awkward way I’ve ever seen a brake chamber replaced.
Just replace the whole thing in one piece. Cutting the bolt is way easier than all that extra work you did.
This practise has limited life, both clamps on some of the latest chambers are crimped.
Dude, replace that latest brake chamber with universal!
This has to be the WORST possible way to do this job, AND way more time consuming. WOW! Just put all new parts on it man.
Maybe is time for a new truck? Lol
I guess🤔! Lol.
I dont understand why you would title this video the rasy way but do a method thats not even safe. Do better man
How about brake chambers warranty? Yeee it will be voided . So dont be too smart.
Risky, bad advice, time consuming hackery on numerous level. Please consider the liability involved in passing on this type of "information" to other short cut happy hacks who do not have your experience.
Good info. 👍
Thank you!
Thank you
You are welcome!