Prophet Isn't What You Think It Is, So Let's Unlock Its True Potential
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มี.ค. 2024
- Prophet is great. Sorry not sorry. I have a feeling you may have tried it and decided that the cowboy is not in it. You are right, but you need to try it again. In this video I show you what it is good at, bad at, and what makes it shine. The best way to hipfire and get everything you can out of it
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How are you liking it?
Quite a lot actually! Very fun!
I didn’t quite catch the perks you liked. Kill clip+something else? Did you leave it kind of wide open on purpose?
Need to go through my rolls and play around with it, but your video saved me from deleting the discord/cascade point roll I got lol
I loved this particular type of scout and have been using a poor roll long arm for the longest time and doing really well. The burst damage at that range throws people off and it works wonders in a team environment. Kill clip on it is just a huge bonus, while I do see pretty frequent max res guardians, the value isn't lost considering they will be incredibly one shot and out of the fight
I'm loving it with offhand strike on mnk. I don't have it with hipfire, but getting one kill while ads-ing and then having the freedom to break people's ankles for seven seconds has won me a fair few duels in trials this past weekend. Kill clip was working better in 6s but in 3s the extra duration was helping a lot.
I wish that Tex Balanced Stock *helped* the hipfire instead of just being *triggered* by hipfire
That rlly should be how it works, but i guess they dont wanna make all the legendaries feel as good last word or dmt?
The whole point of that origin trait is that you can whip your weapon out quickly, get a really quick shot off in hip-fire without needing to waste time by ADSing, and then aim down sights after dealing a good amount of chunk damage to get an advantage, and then be rewarded with better accuracy for it. Which it does absolutely fine, but yeah it would be good if it buffed the first 1 or maybe two hip-fire shots on a player. Especially on other archetypes that aren't 120 scouts. That way it's a bit more of a last word/DMT lite than it is now, and it still doesn't step on exotic territory. Which of course it shouldn't.
@@seb5542well said
use dmt
I just wish it reduced hip fire bloom a little. It doesn't need to be dmt good but if it was a little more reliable that would make the origin trait easier to proc
Glad to see that even Coolguy knows this scout has a lot more to offer than what other ppl assume. W video
Its still 🗑️
@@FlyyKaRizZmA maybe to you, and that’s okay
@@BombStarsi mean turtles eventually make it to the finish line. 🤷♀️ lol. Jk
@@BombStarsbut if your on pc, go for it. On console its hot ass.
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I think we're overthinking this. Get a kill clip roll, and use it like a scout rifle. Couple it with your favorite flavor of close quarters weapon in the energy slot.
Can confirm. Pairs beautifly with a sidearm, I run an old Swift Verdict.
“TH-cam wide open mouth” this is the reason you are the best D2 content creator on YT. Best thumb nails,best reviews, best content. No click bait.
I agree! I actually laughed when he said that, cool guy is goated
Facts
Tex balanced stock should like hip-fire rapid hit, where it's giving you some useful buffs to counter bloom, not fix the hip fire entirely or improve the hip fire at base
Hip fire grip, explosive payload, and a freehand grip mod make this thing lean into the hip fire fantasy the most for me. Actually felt pretty good IMO and enhanced hip fire will help out when it's available. Hopefully they don't nerf the explosive payload benefit to the tex trait by then.
@@Mr_Ruhlit’s still miles worse than DMT for hip firing
@@SavvyMon4 as it should be. A legendary origin trait shouldn't be as good as an exotic one right? Like most are saying, you shouldn't be building into this purely for a hip-fire weapon like DMT is. It has many traits that DMT does not and those are what you should be going for. If you want a good hip-fire weapon, just craft and use a DMT.
@@Mr_Ruhl then why are you jerking off the hip fire perks w this thing lol? Building into it is a complete waste of time
This is what "fan fire" does with last word
Great review as always!
Tiny little thing that i didn't see you mention (as well as other content creators) is that Tex Balance Stock Origin Trait got a buff in the mid season update. It also gives +20 Range in addition to all the other benefits!
I know this review is about the scout but that buff makes the sidearm Liminal Vigil get to 100 Range giving it an 18 meter drop off. REALLY loving that!
Just a tiny thing i thought others should know and keep and eye out for future weapons.
Keep up the great work! Glad you're healthy!
Thanks for gettin nerdy with it buddy...we all hope you are well...👊
Before the adept version was out, I got the Keep Away+Kill clip roll on the normal version. Played one game and had 28 final blows with the thing. I put it in my vault because I wanted the Adept version after that one game. Luckily I finally got the adept version of that roll and I can’t wait to get to use it this week!
This has been my favorite roll as well!
Got a really nice adept one with small bore, accurized, keep away and kill clip with also explosive and a handling MW. It feels great and racked up 200 kills on it in a few matches. I’ve been advocating it’s great to all my friends. :)
Always appreciate the perspective of your weapon reviews and this video is just another example of why. Your review is the only one I've seen that points out the 1st hip fire shot being better than the follow ups. Keep up the great work.
Thanks or the video man, I hope everything is going well with you, good luck with the pacemaker and please keep us updated.
THAT THUMBNAIL!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love it, glad to see you're doing better =)
Super appreciate the video and separating the weapons from others in the archetype. Definitely helps them standout on the own!
Being able to strafe, transition between a hip and ADS shot, and jiggle peak is what I like a lot about these. The bounce to shooting it and sliding corners with the initial hip fire into ADS shots is pretty much how I go about weilding it. Looking forward to using my haul this upcoming iron banner.
It was awesome to play with you when I matched with you in Trials, when I saw you using the scout knew you were reviewing it. Glad I kept some good rolls!
The roll I kept on my Adept drops was Keep Away and Precision Instrument, and I gotta say I was VERY surprised with it. I don't use scouts inside of PVP too often and I haven't put the thing down yet. It's at 90 range with the Adept mod and range masterwork so the Keep Away tops the range off at 100 and I use One Quiet Moment as the origin trait. I love the sights on this thing. This is a very fun weapon to use!
As much as that roll its amazing, I personally feel like keep away is a wasted perk on this weapon, the range bonus is kinda nulled by it being a scout, the reload buff is great for smooth feeling, but the perk becomes useless if your enemy is aggressive or near. Personally I like outlaw, rapid hit, or enlightened action, my personal roll gets me 82 range max with outlaw kill clip with does amazing because this scout I like to be aggressive with and chain 2 taps. If I want a long range scout, I go box breathing hung jury
@@Changingtesting I managed to snag a few of the normal Prophets with Rapid Hit and Enlightened Action rolls and I like those a lot too! The extra accuracy and stickiness with the 100 range just feels very good for me! It's a very consistent and comfortable kill at any range. The thing just doesn't miss lol. I have been pairing it with different autos in the energy slot and it's been a very enjoyable time. It's been a very forgiving and comfortable roll for me!
You're better off leaning into handling and stability vs range. This thing already has 80 meters of ads range and 40 hip at base. You're rarely ever going to need more range than that.
@@Mr_Ruhl it's plenty stable and handles very well! I've got a few other rolls as well, and like I said before I like those a lot too. I just happened to gravitate towards this roll in particular and enjoy using it! I appreciate the input though!
I prefer adept targeting on this tbh. But if you're obsessed with 100 stats that's fine too
Another Content Creator, I think it was Cammy, mentioned that regular Hip-fire Grip helps, but the Enhanced version is what makes a noticeable difference. May want to stash the Hip-fire roll away until we can enhance the weapons in Final Shape.
came here to say this. Enhanced hipfire is no joke, tried it on some stuff during craftening like the WQ high impact scout and it is a night and day difference.
I love the high quality analysis in this video. Great job!
You hit every pain point I had with this gun and appreciate your insight. Going to give it a whirl tomorrow. Great vid.
Excellent video as always. Omg the midtown streaks! My man out here making midtown look like a cemetery!! 🔥
The talk around this gun just feels like no one tried long arm lmao. RH + EP long arm is a favorite of mine, waiting for the EP fix to start using it again. Absolutely want a demo headstone prophet tho, you'd have to pry me off of stasis based on the gun model alone
Agreed. If it's not dmt, it's my RH/EP Long Arm
I have a demo headstone/explosive payload, it's amazing!
Went flawless last night and actually got Hip Fire, Kill Clip/Headstone. Glad I watched your video so I know that it's worth trying out! The tip about only hip firing once is huge.
Much appreciated detailed review. And hope you're feeling better brother.
Thank you for going in depth on the Origin Trait - now I understand how it works/best way to keep it up if I choose to run that playstyle 🙌
You really put effort into this. You had to get these rolls and thoroughly test them. Well done.
I've been waiting to see what you have to say about this one! Hope you're feeling better dude 😊
Been having a lot of fun lane-ing with this and Long Arm lately. Thanks for the video!
Laning is a word!
@@BarderBetterFasterStronger I couldn’t tell if it truly was a word or not. Looked off when I typed it out!
Really good analysis. I watched Lego’s video on the Prophet when it came out, but wasn’t convinced that it was a dud like he said. Glad I kept my Hip-Fire Grip and Tricorn/Perfect Float roll.
i got an enlightened action kc one and I love it! Truly made me actually like aggressive scouts
Awe yeah been waiting for this one
Best I was able to get is enlightened action kill clip/explosive. Great tip on using hipfire for the first shot. Can't wait to put more kills on it!
Love this! Agg scouts have been my baby since Long Arm last year.
One thing to add. For PvE, please try one quiet moment… if you’re using this scout like you’re supposed to this comes up all the time and it’s just a free near-max reload speed.
I feel like it cant be that bad in pvp also.
For once, I think I'm with the vocal majority in saying that this weapon (much like the rest of the Tex Mechanica foundry weapons) are rather disappointing but mostly from a design aspect. Why not lean into that hip-fire aspect more and make it viable? The Final Shape is in just over two months and the last thing people want out of Destiny is more of the same. We need innovation out of the hundreds of weapons we have in our arsenal currently.
the problem is if they do that then dmt is no longer exotic
Wait until TFS when we can enhance hipfire perk, that's what will really set it apart as far as legendary scouts go
Great review! Not trying to sell it or just say it’s trash. Laying out the weapon’s nuances and potential playstyles. Good stuff!
I like this thing! So many solid perk options. Stability is absolutely best on roller from what I’ve seen. Headstone is also slept on for red based game modes, especially with the artifact
@3:32 Hey look! I got shot in the face for science again! :D ggs
Thank you so much for this. Drove me crazy everyone thinking you’re just supposed to hipfire all your shots.
The strength of the weapon is the first shot accuracy in hipfire. In a high hitting scout, it’s incredibly versatile. Allows you to get that crucial first peak shot in hipfire.
loving my high stab/handling outlaw kill clip, one kill and with such a big mag and fast kill clip proc you can really get some sprees at long range
I somehow went flawless with the path of persistence this weekend and spent all of yesterday farming adept rolls. I got every single good roll combination except the goofy one I wanted which was hip fire off hand strike. After watching this though I am so glad I kept the discord/cascade point roll. Almost deleted it.
It’s hip fire is great for “oh shit” situations, but other than that just using it like a regular weapon it feels great.
I went after 2 rolls the hip fire everything roll, and a precision roll. I used my arrowhead, accurized rounds, keep away, kill clip roll with a stability MW and adept range mod. It feels really good, and it will be even better with the enhanced perks in just a few months
This thing is so much fun. I got an adept rapid hit explosive payload roll last weekend and I freaking adore this thing. It hasn't left my hands for crucible. It's extremely oppressive, it's night watch on steroids and you can win hip fire engagements. I just love it
I don't get tired of reloading actively as I duel and punishing entire teams out of a lane or point while my buddies flank them
Finally someone demonstrates how to use it. Great vid.
I got one using passage of persistence cause I didn’t feel like going flawless this week. I ended up getting an adept with rapid hit & precision instrument/cascade. I like it
Been having a ton of success using this like a long range 120 HC in Trials this week (handling is even good enough to use it at pretty close range too). Peek/team shooting potential is crazy. I’ve also got kill clip on it and I’ve been shocked at how many 2 taps I get (you just can’t start expecting to get them, in case you run into a 10 res).
the SCIENCE!! Appreciate Appreciate Your Research & Dedication to testing 💯🤟🏽🎮💯🤟🏽🎮
Hmmm... I haven't been fussed with Trials this season. Got a couple builds ready to try out in IB, now I'm thinking I need to get my shit together & hop into Trials! I want to get an Incandescent Igneous for PVE & now this thing can roll Demo x Headstone!? Pretty much the perfect combo for most of my Stasis Builds! I am still interested in the super Hipfire option but I've heard so much negativity about it, I guess that'll be a nice alternative if I get one trying for the perfect Stasis roll.
Like I commented on Lego's video, hip-fire grip/offhand strike is fun to use in PvE. So, worth getting just for that.
One of the selling points was kill clip and thankfully I snagged the roll, just need a good mag perk. It’s a solid weapon and I agree with cool guy it’s used for a team shot but can handle some of its 1s well
I’ve been loving this scout it feels so good to use can’t wait till i get my Killclip roll
I was able to get an adept roll with Discord and Explosive Payload or Kill Clip thanks to the Passage of Persistence card. Was hoping for an Demo + Headstone roll, but I ain't complaining and I'll try to get a normal version at some point.
Glad I went flawless this week. I got the Hipfire Killclip roll for it. Tasty two taps all day. Paired with my Bakris hunter, it is an absolute monster.
W video as normal thanks CG
Hip fire grip with explosive payload felt the best for hip firing to me. Explosive payload has alway felt like it gives more bullet magnetism to me and since it procs the tex trait in half the hits it actually makes it somewhat useable.
I needed this review a few days ago!!! God I would have farmed for more rolls 😢….oh well, there’s always next time a few months from now haha
I’ve been running kill clip hip fire grip with duality on bakris hunter. Body shot body shot combo, and kill clip with bakris for 2 tap against any resil. But cascade point just seems nasty, gotta get a roll with it
Making me feel a lot better about a couple of the rolls I got...I'll give them a shot.
Love the Supernatural quote for the thumbnail
While unfortunate, as the two Adept Prophets i got, my best one is a keep away kill clip with mostly range boosting perks, im looking forward to trying it out. ... if it wasnt for the fact I'm so hard pressed on using adjudicator. I need to broaden my weapon usage, lol.
I ended up with Keep Away and Explosive Payload on my first roll. Not a bad combo. Especially considering Heal Clip/Incan was my first drop on the Summoner. I'm pretty sure those two used up all my positive RNG for the rest of the year, but at least I don't need to touch any more Trials until the next weapon refresh.
Been using a demo/headstone roll on my shadebinder build and it might be my new GM primary
It’s a hard hitting 120 that can have 90+ handling… people sleep on that aspect too. You can hip shot for body and quick scope in for double head any resilience.
I’m ROFL’ing all over. You win the Title of the year award, and we still have so much year to go! (You’ve yee’d your last haw…😂😂😂)
Hey My Guy! I Really hope you take good care of yourself! Wish you the Best! I want to know what shader color is the kind of Blue with your Trials Scout? Thank you
Was looking for the Adept demo/headstone all weekend and it never dropped. Will try out demo/tricorn and should work until I can pick up a headstone. Had all the PvP rolls drop. Took a keepaway/kill into comp and it worked. Took many by surprise with the two tap. It has a crazy deep mag and loads fast out of action too. Task specific but does the job well enough it will replace Jade Rabbit for me and free up an exotic for my energy slot. Like it and it will only get better when enhanced perks are available.
I like keep away headstone for pve and pvp, good for blocking rez, asp synergy with stasis builds
Couldn't get away from rapid hit or keep away in the third column. I've got rolls that work for now but I'm going back in for a demo roll next time
Love this thing. Super super fun weapon
I encountered a guy with a prophet yesterday and the only way to effectively duel him was with a 360 auto (which feels incredible right now. I’m using lodbrok c) 720 autos also feel incredible and have pre nerf smg ranges with only a slight ttk hit. I was tearing through the crucible with both of them
Something I enjoy about the Prophet is that Diamond Lances to activate the weapon perk. By the mere fact this thing is a Stasis weapon, the Prophets one of those few weapons that can self-proc that perk.
best review out there
Solid review! But I will say, I am extremely disappointed that I can't confirm kills with hip fire. It's literally the only reason I was interested.
Hipfiring with Cascade Point is super fun. Feels like a sidearm when you get it going.
Still haven't gotten a Kill Clip roll though.😢
The first 3 days after this came out I put close to 3000 kills between 3 (I don’t touch grass), so far my favorite roll has been chambered, steady rounds, rapid hit, kill clip. Keep away is nice but on MNK it doesn’t feel that different but you can notice the stickiness a little bit more, outlaw is also super nice but you don’t get the extra stability like rapid hit which is nice when quickly chaining kills.
hot take: in all honesty I like this a lot more than DMT due to the sight and the ability to 2 tap
Been touting the 120 scout archetype for a very long time. You play it like a long 120 handcannon. Long arm is my absolute favourite.
They're versatile & you trade aim assist for effectively infinite range and high handling. Highly recommend Long Arm w/ EP if you play Blink hunter.
EP lets you proc the origin around corners & is incredibly lethal
My recommended playstyle is run-and-gun where you duck in & out of cover like you're playing a GM.
Blink is *very* suited for this playstyle because it lets you cut distances quickly an essentially reduces the distance of every single piece of cover on the map.
You can do this in PvE too and is my favourite way to play Arc hunter in PvE because IMO, Mothgrips Arcstrider is the strongest GM support class that *nobody* is playing.
I honestly want to get into content creation to talk just about my philosophy on approaching endgame content because I'm tired of having to play other subclasses in LfG to try & triage a run & I think I know how to find a way to teach players better moment-to-moment decisionmaking across all types of content, PvP included because high-level knowledge of one *can* prepare you for the other.
chasing the demo headstone, i remember what you said about the stasis horror story
That was my first drop lol it's amazing!
Glad you sound more like yourself Austin
New drinking game: take a shot every time he says the word "This".
The best reviews by far
Got the discord harmony drop randomly from a win, and when it's proc'd it's stupid funny.
If you don’t have the hipfire grip trait, does the freehand grip mod help instead of using targeting adjuster?
Demo + Headstone with Iceflare Bolts
How does your radar look so clean? Awesome video btw
120 scouts DPS feel throttled in PVE due to the frame being balanced around the first of it's kind, an exotic with 40% more damage. I'm not saying they should up the damage for this archetype in PVE, I just think the legendary ones should have way faster reload speed or reload 3 bullets in one go.
I could not for the life of me acquire a hip-fire grip roll.
Either RNG wasn't with me when I won games to even get a weapon or I wasn't winning enough games after flawless.
However, this video was helpful. Thank you for the perspective.
Question: Is reload masterwork better or handling?
Love the gun, hate the sight. Wish it had more zoom
Sup Coolguy. Thanks for stressing DMT this is not. Takes very little time to see this. Knew it back on that dungeon scout.
In short, it's a scout rifle, and it should be played... as a scout rifle.
It's always been pretty clear IMO, even with the DMT.
For sure from time to time hits from the hip can help you finish start a dual, but to me the "beauty" of Tex weapons is just to look/sound like a cowboy haha.
Anyway, I love mine (fluted barrel, flared magwell, keep away, kill clip), got almost 700 PvP kills in 2 days of use.
I also kept a outlaw + headstone (or cascade point), but I can't really see myself using this in PvE, I will try it with CP.
All I needed was that "yeed your last ha" 40 seconds in GOLD😂
I got rapid hit / kill clip / headstone. Then hipfire cascade to see what happens later when enhanced. Pretty happy. Felt bad messing around on Neomuna. 🤔 Not great in PvE.
@coolguy in your reviews could you also mention how the featured weapon is obtained. thanks.
I like it with Stasis, bakris and trespasser.
I wanna use this with my stasis Titan build, either with demo/golden tricorn or demo/headstone but I’m finding it hard to justify replacing my wicked implement I’m currently using. It’s damn good though
I like how everyone has a different favorite roll on this. That said, you need to try adept stability instead of range as your mod if you haven't yet.
6:30 I think I hear you say that Osmio (Osmiomancy Gauntlets?) for Warlock would be good for Golden Tricorn, but the opposite is true. These only work with Coldsnaps and coldsnap shatters do not count as grenade kills. And similarly the Warlock melee also doesn't shatter nor do significant damage...
My only complaint is that both prophet and long arm have ironsights that make it hard to use for me in particular. Big ADS DMT fan and love the ironsights on it.
I like bakris and kill clip on it, and Cascade with high stability... Roller is lil rough if u try to DMT it... Which it is not.
I love every role I have. It’s a fun weapon.
I suck at PvP but i took my prophet adept in it yesterday with cascade point and just ruined people with it… sooo fun
As an MnK Last Word user, I'll hipfire what I want but this is a sound take for everyone else. Seems cool, still not going to touch the cesspool of Trials for it though. Perfectly happy with my budget Arc version from Spire.