Man that's the difference between an actual service tech or just a guy with gauges a meter and proposal slips. Some times you have to get them by till they can afford to replace. Nice.
Thank you very much. Yes exactly there is a big difference between a service tech who cares about their job, and stands behind their work vs somebody who just wants a paycheck. You can make a comfortable living doing your job to the best of your ability. I hate finding scammers and hacks. Makes this industry look bad. I try to treat everyone’s equipment as if it’s my own. Also, I try to take into consideration what’s the best option for the company? I try to be honest with all my recommendations. Is it worth putting the time and money into this piece of equipment? Sometimes doing repairs as this gives the customer borrowed time till the new parts arrive. I still feel honesty is the best policy. Since this video I had moved from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to Gulf Coast of Florida, started with a new company, and doing rather well. Picking up a lot of good information as well as sharing information with the southern techs. Have a great day and thank you for the compliment.
It did not seem like a fun task? Sometimes I wonder how they actually assemble the equipment lol. The screws were so rusty how did you ever get a nut driver on there? Thanks for commenting have a great day
Great work as always Tony! Thanks to your advice on that product on a previous vid you posted I recently tried that spray on a job with a similar situation and had great success with it! My client didn’t want to replace the entire unit due to cost and I honestly would have never believed it would work but client was happy and I am happy 😆 Keep em coming bro, love your channel!
I’m glad it worked out for you there are some situations it will not work but as long as it’s dry, cleaned, prepped properly I feel it will work. The worst thing that could happen you’re out a couple bucks. But at least it gives the customer a warning that their equipment is getting up there in age so be prepared to replace in the future. Thank you very much for the compliment and feedback from this product. Due to the extreme hot weather we were having it’s slowed me down posting any videos since I was out till late at night and waking up for work early the next morning I had very little time for editing and posting. Have a great day thank you for watching and thank you again for the compliment.
I am impressed that it worked so well, that was a great bandaid to get it thru. Glad the customer agreed to replace the unit. I have found over the years that sometimes a successful temporary repair turns into a permanent repair as far as the building owner goes until it fails again then the crisis becomes your problem. I would think the white would allow you to visually see if you missed a spot when applying. Years ago I made a slightly smaller sheet metal pan and cut the end out of the old one, slid the “new temporary” pan in like a “drawer”. Worked well for that summer. Thanks for the showing the results.
@@SupremeRuleroftheWorld In the REAL world that isn’t always possible due to time constraints and job logistics. As long as it is SAFE and functional it can buy you or the customer the needed time. When dealing with refrigeration and food preservation it’s quite common. Explain to a customer that has 50K in a walk-in that you can’t have a part for 2 days🤷♂️ and he will need to trash the product because you can’t improvise if possible.
@@scottk0623 i know that, and that is why temporaty repairs are always permanent ones. because the customer stops spending money as soon as the problem has gone away.
I agree that some customers feel that it is now permanently fixed and I’ve had had situations in the past where it has bit me in the rear end. But as long as you put it on your paperwork to cover your butt that it is “Temporary” I feel sometimes that’s all we can do. I’ve never use the black product just this white one it looks very clean and you can definitely see where it went. I always like to see before and after results and if the product did what it says. I love the reviews when they are done properly and honestly. Thank you very much for the comment thanks for watching and have a great day.
In this field we try not to rig stuff up or put Band-Aids on things for a permanent fix. This unit was changed out not too long after that but it did work. We typically use that product in auxiliary drain pans on new installs. Equipment can only last so long and not many people want to hear that but everything has its expiration date.
I've used that product before on condenser sections on Carrier units when the lazy installers put a hole in the pan to bring the electric through and dont use a bulkhead fitting. I had one really bad like that where the dripping was running along a beam to a web joist then running many feet away from the unit before dripping down onto sales floor. This caused a fight between HVAC technicians and the roofing company. After the roofing company replaced all the roofing surrounding both the RTU did we take him seriously. Turned out to be one screw threw the unit pan in the condenser section. You should talk about how bad of a design those old Carriers were, how the condenser fan air recirculate air through the top of the condenser slab coil and the condenser is stacked stages so one stage always runs with high head pressure. Only way to fix is to use hail guard to prevent recirculation and keep that condenser coil cleaned. I don't know how many units like those are out there with all the CLO boards bypassed and high pressure switches bypassed just to keep them running.
I’ve seen that so many times where the electrician runs the power right through the bottom of that metal next to the compressor and yes I have seen them leak there before. I have used that liquid electricians tape over top of those and have had good luck with it. Sometimes I would use a real good silicone caulking. And yes sometimes them water leaks can be a real nightmare. This product I’ve used a handful of times but never to this extent. I’ve had an old customer who used to do HVAC work and he would use this product in his brand new water source heat pump’s to protect the metal drain pans to illuminate future problems. A lot of people in the north I don’t believe in under coding for cars but I honestly believe if it’s done properly and when the vehicle is brand new with the proper under Coating Properly the vehicle will last. My personal vehicle is a 1999 Ford ranger, I use to undercoat by hand with old engine oil and it’s still holding up well to this day. A lot of technicians have to put themselves in the customers position from time to time because due to this Covid situation a lot of supplies are limited so a new piece of equipment it’s not easy to come by at the drop of a hat. We have had to install an air diverting plate on some of these to illuminate condenser air recirculating back into the condenser from the fan motors. I’ve seen numerous CLO circuit boards jumped out as well. Thank you very much for the comments I appreciate it have a great day.
@HVAC Explained Do you mean the RTU air conditioners that are on the ceilings numbered from one to six and they have four air flow vents? Sorry if this TH-cam comment is confusing.
Are you talking about units labeled on the ductwork at Home Depot / Lowe’s / Costco / Walmart you can see them from ground level?? 4 way vents into the space ?? What’s the question about them?
@@hvacexplained9341 Oh my gosh, yes! One hundred percent, yes, on that point, but I was just wonder if that was the type of central air conditioning unit you were working on; RTU.
@@kaden4418 Yes, those units are identical to what I am currently working on in this video just the ductwork is set up different. Those units you see at those facilities are packaged they contain heating and cooling combined most of the time the thermostat is located inside the unit in the return duct or on an energy management system tied into the entire building.
My face when I have to change a condensate pan 😖 I’ve seen some ‘imaginative’,’temporary’ … ‘fixes’🤣 The kind you can’t fix, melted into the heat exchanger. If you can buy a little time for the customer that could be a useful short term fix, why not. Had not seen that product yet, maybe time to get a couple cans for the shelf.
That pan I was dreading. The customer is waiting for the new unit. Bought them a little time. Yeah that product probably won’t be good if it got on the heat exchangers. “Odor from hell”. Lol. Just clean / prep before using any products. Have a great day.
Hey Shane good evening. Thanks for watching. Always ask questions and tear into things. I did create an email I put it in the description. Hvacexplained@yahoo.com Have a great night. Thanks.
@@xdms20a Some people do I generally put them on but it depends where the trap is for proper drainage. I really like when I see equipment on a roof pipe all the way across to a roof drain. Apparently they’re not aware of that it rains in Pittsburgh more than most cities in the United States.
Yeah I know it’s pretty amazing that their damn near level. Anytime I install a air handler or water source heat pump. I know they require it to be sitting level. I always slightly pitch them towards the drain because I want that water out of the drain pan ASAP. If that water is sitting there or if the unit settles away from the drain minerals and sludge will build up not to mention rot out the drain pan. But yes, sometimes Equipment is bound to fail by design. Have a great day.
Man that's the difference between an actual service tech or just a guy with gauges a meter and proposal slips. Some times you have to get them by till they can afford to replace. Nice.
Thank you very much. Yes exactly there is a big difference between a service tech who cares about their job, and stands behind their work vs somebody who just wants a paycheck. You can make a comfortable living doing your job to the best of your ability. I hate finding scammers and hacks. Makes this industry look bad.
I try to treat everyone’s equipment as if it’s my own. Also, I try to take into consideration what’s the best option for the company? I try to be honest with all my recommendations. Is it worth putting the time and money into this piece of equipment? Sometimes doing repairs as this gives the customer borrowed time till the new parts arrive. I still feel honesty is the best policy.
Since this video I had moved from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to Gulf Coast of Florida, started with a new company, and doing rather well. Picking up a lot of good information as well as sharing information with the southern techs.
Have a great day and thank you for the compliment.
Me and another guy had the pleasure of changing the drain pan on that style of Carrier. Very long dirty day.
It did not seem like a fun task? Sometimes I wonder how they actually assemble the equipment lol. The screws were so rusty how did you ever get a nut driver on there? Thanks for commenting have a great day
Great work as always Tony! Thanks to your advice on that product on a previous vid you posted
I recently tried that spray on a job with a similar situation and had great success with it! My client didn’t want to replace the entire unit due to cost and I honestly would have never believed it would work but client was happy and I am happy 😆
Keep em coming bro, love your channel!
I’m glad it worked out for you there are some situations it will not work but as long as it’s dry, cleaned, prepped properly I feel it will work. The worst thing that could happen you’re out a couple bucks. But at least it gives the customer a warning that their equipment is getting up there in age so be prepared to replace in the future. Thank you very much for the compliment and feedback from this product. Due to the extreme hot weather we were having it’s slowed me down posting any videos since I was out till late at night and waking up for work early the next morning I had very little time for editing and posting. Have a great day thank you for watching and thank you again for the compliment.
excellent work as always
Thanks a lot. 👍
Been watching your videos .
Great content. Keep it coming
Thanks ice cream guy. Lol. You work on a lot of ice machines?
Have a great day.
@@hvacexplained9341 yes. Soft serve machines, ice makers, refrigeration, pretty much anything in a commercial kitchen
I am impressed that it worked so well, that was a great bandaid to get it thru. Glad the customer agreed to replace the unit. I have found over the years that sometimes a successful temporary repair turns into a permanent repair as far as the building owner goes until it fails again then the crisis becomes your problem. I would think the white would allow you to visually see if you missed a spot when applying. Years ago I made a slightly smaller sheet metal pan and cut the end out of the old one, slid the “new temporary” pan in like a “drawer”. Worked well for that summer. Thanks for the showing the results.
there is no such thing as a temporary repair. all temporary repairs are permanent repairs and you should treat them as such.
@@SupremeRuleroftheWorld In the REAL world that isn’t always possible due to time constraints and job logistics. As long as it is SAFE and functional it can buy you or the customer the needed time. When dealing with refrigeration and food preservation it’s quite common. Explain to a customer that has 50K in a walk-in that you can’t have a part for 2 days🤷♂️ and he will need to trash the product because you can’t improvise if possible.
@@scottk0623 i know that, and that is why temporaty repairs are always permanent ones. because the customer stops spending money as soon as the problem has gone away.
I agree that some customers feel that it is now permanently fixed and I’ve had had situations in the past where it has bit me in the rear end. But as long as you put it on your paperwork to cover your butt that it is “Temporary” I feel sometimes that’s all we can do. I’ve never use the black product just this white one it looks very clean and you can definitely see where it went. I always like to see before and after results and if the product did what it says. I love the reviews when they are done properly and honestly. Thank you very much for the comment thanks for watching and have a great day.
Seems like you could put a membrane like they use in showers in the pan
In this field we try not to rig stuff up or put Band-Aids on things for a permanent fix. This unit was changed out not too long after that but it did work. We typically use that product in auxiliary drain pans on new installs. Equipment can only last so long and not many people want to hear that but everything has its expiration date.
I've used that product before on condenser sections on Carrier units when the lazy installers put a hole in the pan to bring the electric through and dont use a bulkhead fitting. I had one really bad like that where the dripping was running along a beam to a web joist then running many feet away from the unit before dripping down onto sales floor. This caused a fight between HVAC technicians and the roofing company. After the roofing company replaced all the roofing surrounding both the RTU did we take him seriously. Turned out to be one screw threw the unit pan in the condenser section. You should talk about how bad of a design those old Carriers were, how the condenser fan air recirculate air through the top of the condenser slab coil and the condenser is stacked stages so one stage always runs with high head pressure. Only way to fix is to use hail guard to prevent recirculation and keep that condenser coil cleaned. I don't know how many units like those are out there with all the CLO boards bypassed and high pressure switches bypassed just to keep them running.
I’ve seen that so many times where the electrician runs the power right through the bottom of that metal next to the compressor and yes I have seen them leak there before. I have used that liquid electricians tape over top of those and have had good luck with it. Sometimes I would use a real good silicone caulking. And yes sometimes them water leaks can be a real nightmare. This product I’ve used a handful of times but never to this extent. I’ve had an old customer who used to do HVAC work and he would use this product in his brand new water source heat pump’s to protect the metal drain pans to illuminate future problems. A lot of people in the north I don’t believe in under coding for cars but I honestly believe if it’s done properly and when the vehicle is brand new with the proper under Coating Properly the vehicle will last. My personal vehicle is a 1999 Ford ranger, I use to undercoat by hand with old engine oil and it’s still holding up well to this day. A lot of technicians have to put themselves in the customers position from time to time because due to this Covid situation a lot of supplies are limited so a new piece of equipment it’s not easy to come by at the drop of a hat. We have had to install an air diverting plate on some of these to illuminate condenser air recirculating back into the condenser from the fan motors. I’ve seen numerous CLO circuit boards jumped out as well. Thank you very much for the comments I appreciate it have a great day.
@HVAC Explained Do you mean the RTU air conditioners that are on the ceilings numbered from one to six and they have four air flow vents? Sorry if this TH-cam comment is confusing.
Are you talking about units labeled on the ductwork at Home Depot / Lowe’s / Costco / Walmart you can see them from ground level?? 4 way vents into the space ??
What’s the question about them?
@@hvacexplained9341 Oh my gosh, yes! One hundred percent, yes, on that point, but I was just wonder if that was the type of central air conditioning unit you were working on; RTU.
@@kaden4418 Yes, those units are identical to what I am currently working on in this video just the ductwork is set up different.
Those units you see at those facilities are packaged they contain heating and cooling combined most of the time the thermostat is located inside the unit in the return duct or on an energy management system tied into the entire building.
Ah carrier engineers always gotta make it hard
I hate adjusting the blower for belt tension on these. Not enough room. The heat exchangers are a pain on these.
Every brand has their ups and downs.
I used that several years ago worked well but did get a talking to about the smell did let customer know and still complained
My face when I have to change a condensate pan 😖
I’ve seen some ‘imaginative’,’temporary’ … ‘fixes’🤣
The kind you can’t fix, melted into the heat exchanger.
If you can buy a little time for the customer that could be a useful short term fix, why not. Had not seen that product yet, maybe time to get a couple cans for the shelf.
That pan I was dreading. The customer is waiting for the new unit. Bought them a little time. Yeah that product probably won’t be good if it got on the heat exchangers. “Odor from hell”. Lol.
Just clean / prep before using any products.
Have a great day.
Good stuff, any word on that email? The school I'm in has your company listed for places to apply. I think I'm going to apply soon. Stay safe man.
Hey Shane good evening. Thanks for watching. Always ask questions and tear into things. I did create an email I put it in the description. Hvacexplained@yahoo.com
Have a great night. Thanks.
Condensate trap looks odd
It was broken off so I repaired it and someone else removed what I did since I sealed that pan. why I don’t know 🤷♀️.
is there a cap on the tee?
@@xdms20a Some people do I generally put them on but it depends where the trap is for proper drainage. I really like when I see equipment on a roof pipe all the way across to a roof drain. Apparently they’re not aware of that it rains in Pittsburgh more than most cities in the United States.
Why not design a drain pan so that the water does not pool ?
Yeah I know it’s pretty amazing that their damn near level. Anytime I install a air handler or water source heat pump. I know they require it to be sitting level. I always slightly pitch them towards the drain because I want that water out of the drain pan ASAP. If that water is sitting there or if the unit settles away from the drain minerals and sludge will build up not to mention rot out the drain pan.
But yes, sometimes Equipment is bound to fail by design. Have a great day.