Is Tesla Replacing Sacked Workers With Robots?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2024
- Tesla has made headlines around the world for laying off large numbers of its workforce. At the same time, it's well known that Tesla is actively working on the Tesla Bot - a robot that can reproduce many of the tasks that a human can do. That's got us to wondering: is Tesla quitely replacing its workers with robots?
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Pity they couln't put them robots to work on Tesla Preston South or Tesla Gretna (M74 & Caledonia Park ) unfinished new superchargers
So with robots manufacturing could remain in Europe USA etc
At least it's not a charging video😂
Cheers Dave
They might have a team servicing the robot perhaps ❤
Yes just a little scary for the future of the people
I have thought that as less people want to do the menial jobs anymore having been told they can be anything, robots will be perfect to do those jobs. As to the jobs they can do, well that is a bigger question. Never needing a break these are an advancement as to what is currently used in factories, but if they have the "human touch" they will then do many of the other jobs.
Humans will have to help repair and pamper the robots!
A robot will soon need a lift in a self driving car
Parts and repair costs...
I'm sure it's a lot less than human parts and repair cost: a worker crushes hand at the factory, requires hospitalization, worker then files a lawsuit against the company, expensive.
@taylorlee5103 agree. Just a cost this vid left out.
Per Elon, universal high income…human still can choose to work, but as a hobby. Reminds me the movie, ‘wall-E’.
My last understanding was that once all manufacturing has been replaced with robots everyone will get a universal income from the sale of these products. How ultimately sustainable that would be is another question.
Yeah, because that's how capitalism works. The wealth created by robots will remain in the hands of those that own them.
For every one of those "robots" he will need a human hidden from the camera wearing haptic gloves.
I'd love to see the "human with haptic gloves" behind the scenes of Boston Dynamics where their Atlas robot is doing backflips!!! Maybe they've also trained a real dog to dance wearing a haptic suit for their Spot dog robot! Ridiculous statement. Robots are often trained using humans but very quickly get so much better than them. Can you do a backflip in time to music?
Obviously not, because each robot requires an operator to stand behind it with 3D glasses and haptic gloves to perform even the most basic tasks. There are already lots of robots in car plants, there just isn't any need for them to be humanoid. When they're bolted to the floor they can move faster, handle greater loads, and work with greater precision because they operate from a fixed datum.
Not sure you've got the idea of AI learning. A single robot needs a single human to show it repeatedly what to do. Once it knows it, the robot instantly transmits that to every single other robot and they can instantly all do it. Matrix or Joe 90 might help.
@@davetakesiton No Tesla robot has ever exhibited any AI. They only operate under direct remote control or make pre-programmed moves.
That is simply not true
Surely the business model for the use of robots like this is to have a 24/7 production line for manufacturing rather than having robots clean etc. Similarly stock takes would be fully automated so there wouldn’t need to be any robots here. Beyond this, any improvements in the process would be automatically implemented throughout the whole robot workforce thus increasing efficiencies further. If self driving does come to fruition then there wouldn’t be a need for humans to drive at all. All of this sounds great but we should be planning for the societal shift that would be required to find a place for humans to live better, and this should start right now.
Yes, of course, but demand is not always there for 24/7 operation of a business. Shops don't open overnight.
No, Dave, they're not
@@user-sf9lj6dy6w 🤣
Battery swap or wireless charging may also work…
it is the inevitable outcome. i believe in 15 years 40% of the workforce will be a robot ,it is the future like the invention of the weaving machine and the implantation of some sort of universal income
Luddites try, but you can't change the future just because you don't like it. EVs, robots renewable energy are the future
Don't forget, Elon will need to hire lots of humans to operate the telepresence suits on which his robots depend!
Good employment, then, but so few are needed. Use one human to train one robot, then once it knows, it sends a software update to all robots. End of that human's use.
@@davetakesiton Great then the governments can tax everyone to oblivion to look after the humans the robots put out of work
Only for the first Hour
@@tonyshipton8896 More like the two years* it took to fully train FSD Robotaxi. 🤣
The only way the whole economy doesn't collapse with robots and AI replacing jobs is if either companies are collectively owned but the people, the robots are owned by the people or if there is UBI.
Communism... take a look at history :)
@@ndudman8 I don't think you know what communism is.
@@oracleoftruth You mean Jewesish led death machine killing millions ? Or you think its a utopia ?
I put this into the "i will believe it when i see it" catagory. Along side fusion power
Not saying that it will never happen but......
We have been told this for decades , but the reality is there are more people in work here in the uk at least, than ever before, both in absolute numbers and as percentage of the population.
The real problem is that humans are so cheap that even full time jobs often don't pay enough to live on.I
Far more inwork benifits paid out now than unemployment benifits.
If not 5 Years, Def 10… the race is now on thanks to Nvidia….
Would you buy one?
When everything is done by robots how will people be employed to earn money to live?
Perhaps towards that goal, which I don't think will happen anyway... but people could spend more time in nature and grow/raise their own quality food ? or start business which would actually serve communities ?
@@ndudman8 who would buy the things made by the robots?
@@oracleoftruth The printing press or looms didn't replace all jobs... and robots are a long way off... but they will replace the crap jobs that, sorry humans should never have been doing, much like the tractor, combine etc... did they improve the world and free up labour for better jobs... sad fact is yes people will be left out, if they don't up their game and improve their skills beyond menial and repetitive labour.
@@ndudman8 name a job that won't be replaced.
We may be given money “Not to Work”?
Oh, that’s already been done
thats a doom spirall less workers=less customers simples
Not yet.
Could it be I Robot in few years. I hope all robot will be like Kryten in Red Dwart or Marvin in Hitchhiker's Guid to Galaxy. Could it be Elon Musk working 120 hours week be replaced with Robot that can work 168 hours week. Lets hope robots never get guns.
UBI and How do you cover that cost ? maybe by company tax going up to cover the cost of benefits having to be payed to citizens.
So it's could just work out as a magic round about as no employment no new car = no car factory.
Afternoon mate
If people don't have work then people don't have money to buy stuff. They will be killing future sales then where do they get their money
This is the contradiction inherent in capitalism. It's in an individual companies best interest to reduce labour but if labour doesn't have enough money there's no one to buy stuff and the company will collapse.
People will be paid universal income, and a lot of it!! The future is bright
@@tonyshipton8896 that will only happen if we vote for it. The other option is there are two classes; the robot owners and everyone else.
I know right. We need to get rid of mechanised agriculture and go back to when 60% of the population worked in the field. All this progress liberating mankind from mundane jobs will never catch on.
@@madonemt you are probably right that it won't. There were predictions that we'd have more holidays and shorter hours due to mechanisation but UK working hours have got longer and we have no more time off. Neoliberalism is more of a driver of that than technological progress can manage. That's why with more change in technology, unless we challenge the neoliberal system we won't reap the benefits.
My comment got into replies, a robot must have moved it lol
I wish they would replace Elon with one of those robots. Tesla workers are dedicated and hard working by all accounts. Elon on the other hand, could do with some non-human competition
Be careful what you wish for Dave, your TH-cam blog could soon replace you with a Tesla Bot, some may jest that it already has.😉
I don’t think a bot could throw their arms around as fast as Dave…😅😅
@@tonyshipton8896 You can edit your post very easily.
Check out the 3 little dots to the right of your post.
Can't help you if you think EVs are a good idea sorry.
Presume 50 % of the population is working & their taxes pays for 100% of the population but if all workers are replaced by robots who pays to keep 100% of the population on 12 month a year holiday, & the boss can be replaced by AI while thr factories produce cheaper goods, (or more profits for the boss) but who will buy the goods & why
As no one has to go to work I imagine the birth rate of humans will skyrocket, sounds like a fun way to live.
What happens to rhe robors who work in the robot factory when they run out of new robot jobs & dont need more robots.
Maybe some AI chip wil teach the robots to fight each other.
@@oldbloke204👍
Reckon our pay will come from the taxed mass profits of the Robotized Factories, and of course we will buy the goods, when population reaches 10 billion, we will have 2 bots each. I like the idea of Countrywide Robot Wars…!
What will humans do? Universal credit will increase.
A great many countries (not the UK) are looking at UBI, Universal Basic Income.
We will go on great holidays… to Mars..!
Robots are not more reliable, they are more consistent and over time they get faster and faster for the same consistency.
Apply statistics to your product you then end up with better quality.
Over time though, by displacing workers with robots you create a class of people who will never be able to work!
Look at it like this:
be a Janitor.. There is a robot for that
Be miner.. there is a robot for that
Be taxi driver.. there is FSD/Robots for that
Be food delivery agent... There is a robot for that
Be a cook.. yep a robot for that
Be a doctor.. AI and robots take over
Be a lawyer.. AI and databases will make your case and decide within seconds and you have no recourse.
Finally be a ditch digger... sorry mate a robot does that quicker than you
It would not be to far a stretch to have robot COPs like in the movies... so much scarier if that happens.
.... you get the hint about where robots and AI can lead to.
This could end up so much like the movie Elysium... a society far away from the lesser class (the movies shows them in space but a gated area would be equivalent today) where robots do everything for the rich while the rest are effectively slaves to them.
Oxford English Dictionary states " reliable: consistently good in quality or performance; able to be trusted" I like the word reliable
@@davetakesiton While the dictionary term is correct I choose consistency over reliability since a robot would always do the same thing.
This repetitive nature means they consistently get the same output from whatever it does.
This output may or may not be 'good in quality' as that is normally a subjective assessment of the output. A robot will always create a bad quality product if the process always leads to it.
I do agree they are reliable in terms of performance unlike humans whose performance can vary.
The film WALL-E is a much more accurate portrayal
There needs to be a yearly tax on robots. So to give a living wage to all the humans who are out of work.
Should that include a Tax on computers who have replaced Clerical Staff? Or movies who have replaced Stage Actors? Sorry, this is a False Argument, Not Thought through..
Or robots are owned by citizens not companies..
@colinsuter6888 yes Ai should be taxed as well. Think that out.
@@irri4662 I have. Your ideas sound expensive!
There eventually will have to be a Universal Wage funded by business taxes, to replace the displaced workers wages.
Green Party policy
communism :) or worst ?
@@ndudman8 taxing businesses isn't communism it's how every country currently works. Communism would be all companies owned by the citizens collectively rather than individually
@@oracleoftruth My comment was related to "Universal Wage"... taxing business just results in higher prices to consumers, or small business paying (and being driven to the wall more than they are already) as large corporations avoid these inconveniences :) Cut the welfare state(massively) reduce the illegal problem, before you send many/all of them back unless you want native white of the island you call home replaced which seems to the a true conspiracy. Of course much more to be said... so I'm sure you'll not understand and still push "Universal Communist Wage" as a solution... are you also for the Jewisdfs led communism/socialism which has killed hundreds of mill for simular ideals to better the world ?
Until we get a universal wage replacing swathes of workers with robots will be difficult for governments to manage. All manner of social problems will surface. Having a job of some kind is important to many people for a variety of reasons not least mental health. I recall images from the Great Depression of working men hanging around street corners with broken spirits and full of despair. Can we allow free enterprise to throw millions on the scrap heap? Will politicians and organised Labour go along with this if it wrecks society as we have know it, even as unfair as it often is. Will it bring greater happiness or make things worse than we have experienced since Brexit and 14 years of Tory misrule.? The Jury is going to be out for many years.
Unless they gradually undermine democracy. Watch out for calls from the far right for only employed people being allowed to vote
just need more vaxinces :)
Not at all… I think everyone will be in Bucket List fulfilment mode with loads of Universal Cash…! ( or hopefully Bitcoin)
@@oracleoftruthtoo true
@@tonyshipton8896 A little naieve... and idialistic... unless the private central banks decide freely to stop screwing people with their made up money... then where is this money coming from except from people actually creating value, unless you think society values and will pay/fund for people to spend all their time "fulfilment mode of bucket lists" .... as for bitcoin... you are clearly not capable of critical thinking and have swollowed the progaganda, perhaps monero would work, but bit coin ? You are either a fool, or trying to fool other people with this simple and empty phrases.
It could be more of a dystopia than utopia. Also once again shows the less edifying side of Elon as he complains about not being able to vacuum up as much of the value of the company as he wants whilst talking about n treating people as disposable objects.