Me and my wife used to be Hindus and we were hardcore Hindutva nationalists who hated Muslims. In 2019 we converted to Islam and changed our names alhamdullah ❤😊
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
Masha'Allah. Welcome to the truth abd tge path if all prophers, including prophet Jesus (AS). May Allah carve your path and keep you steadfast on his path, Insha'Allah.
I am a christened Roman Catholic, turned Agnostic at a young age, who will soon take his Shahada, as I believe Allah SWT is the center of creation and I adore Islam and it's teachings, as well as the unseen levels of brotherhood and sisterhood of within. As much of respect and admiration as I have for mr. Mohammed Hijab, I must adress one thing which I'm not fond of. His facial expressions, most of the time while listening to other side of the table, are those of arrogance (in a lack of a better word, because English is not my 1st language). It seems he doesn't listen with open heart and open mind, even though he is a philosopher and more importatnly, a prominent muslim. He smirks all the time and I hope I'm not the only one who sees it. He knows he is right, I know he is right and most of you know he is right, but that doesn't mean he should look upon others in that particular way. I understand he must be tired of all of these debates with non-believers, sometimes fatigue can get the better out of a person and I wish no harm to him by these words of mine. If I'm wrong here, in the name of Allah SWT, please correct me as I failed to know better at the moment of writing this comment. Peace and love brothers and sisters.
@@laila970 I took my Shahada one hour ago, a friend gave it to me. Your words inspired me to do it as soon as possible. Thank you from the depth of my heart. ❤️ Receive my sincere condolences for your late friend.
@@FalconSideSwipe welcome brother. Even though I most probably won't ever meet you, I love and respect you, brother. May Allah grant you all the blessings you ever wished for
@@FalconSideSwipemay Allah keep you steadfast isa ❤. And brother hijab was bit aggressive because the openhimer guy kept making false Strawmen about islam from shia books which we reject. And he made a moral argument against islam without even showing his moral objectivity. Which is a contradiction from his behalf. You can’t say something is bad and you don’t prove how you deduced that your morals is objective
I was hindu but I accepted Islam. My mother forced me to leave before my brother and father found out and she thought I converted to marry a Muslim. She though I would have somewhere to go but was on the streets for 6months. But my faith was strong 💪 and I’m off the streets.
I have never been through what been through . I'm born muslim . Your story reminds me of how islam started . You are a role model, and Allah favours you to me .
@@enddaoccupation May be you are talking about that companion of Prophet Mohammad ﷺ . Who was greatly spoilt by his mother but when he accepted Islam his mother removed him from home. Subhanallah, he had everything from his family and mother but he saw that his family is wrong for being pagan and he has shown truth in Islam and Prophet Mohammad ﷺ and understood Oneness of The God Allah .
I became a Muslim this week after long research and this debate opened my eyes. And what made me decide to be a Muslim is the atheists and not the Muslims. 😊😊
AFTER LONG RESEARCH!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 SO DO YOU KNOW THAT ALLAH CHANGE HIS WORDS AFTER LESS THAN ONE HOUR??!! PLEASE LAUGH 58:12 When you (want to) consult the Messenger in private, spend something in charity before your private consultation....WAS ABROGATED AFTER BEING IN EFFECT FOR ONLY ONE HOUR OF A DAY. `Abdur-Razzaq recorded that Mujahid said that `Ali said, "No one except me implemented this Ayah, until it was abrogated,'' and he was reported to have said that IT REMAINED IN EFFECT FOR MERELY AN HOUR....IBN KATHIR......AND THOSE TWO BULLIES, PATHETIC LAUGHING STOCKS ARE SPEAKING ABOUT ALL KNOWING ALLAH!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Alhamdullilah but my bro, this video was uploaded 5 hours before you made that comment lollll. Take away two hours to watch it. So you became a better Muslim in those 3 hours ? Lolll may Allah preserve you my brother, just abit of banter
Hijab you show poor manners. Remember the learned used to learn manners before they learned knowledge. A lot of knowledge is ruined by poor manners. Whereas a small amount of knowledge is beautified by good manners
Hinduism is bullshit they can't define what God is Christianity is irrational like concept of trinity and only Judaism and Islam left behind jews are in power economically but they do not usually debate on this topic only Islam left with true. Understanding of God and his book
because hindu themselve dont belive their religion . there 10-15 types of hindus . and they worship anyone they find good or successful . but all of them have one thing in common they hate muslim and do the opposite of muslim
You can view it as they want to continue following their desires and lack self accountability. They know if they accept Islam, the truth, then they have to let go of their desires, which a lot do not want to do.
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;* as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
@@TS-zd2udYou dont make any sense? Jesus is jesus and God is God? Every prophet who was sent came with the words of God? They where not literally the word of God? Jesus was set by God, Jezus prayed to God, Jezus had a God, Jesus talked with/to God? So NO God had a NOT a son or children and NO God is not a man or a baby who is bron. And lets get back to the point you have christians that say that God HAS literally a Son so the Quran speaks to al the sects of christanty also that some call Mary the mother of God..
Only allah knows about what is in the hearts. So only congratulations brother We pray to allah that he give you more knowledge and wisdom and taqwa too. Inshallah
I found the perfect balance in Hamza. His mannerism, tone, assertiveness, his succint responses and ofcourse his knowledge base is what really stood out for me.
I couldn't stop smiling while Muhammad Hijab was speaking, and the youth in the background were softly smiling. They knew that Islam is the truth. May Allah increase our eman and give us Muslims the pride that we had once upon a time. 🤲
AI generated timestamps: 00:13 🎙 Event intro on religious dialogue. 01:25 🌍 Fostering communal belief discussions in Africa. 02:09 🔍 Deep importance of religious questions. 03:19 📚 Panelists' introductions in philosophy and theology. 07:04 📊 Discussion format outlined. 23:50 🕊 Logical argument from evil presented. 26:21 🔄 Contradictions in "limitless becoming limited." 27:00 💡 Naturalism as explanation for equality. 27:38 📜 Necessity of an independent, eternal being. 28:27 🔄 Contingent things indicating a necessary being. 32:38 💼 Prophet Muhammad's accurate predictions. 41:12 💬 Secular ethics rooted in suffering alleviation. 43:32 🤝 Kant's Categorical Imperative for morality. 46:03 🔄 Rawls' "veil of ignorance" for moral principles. 49:49 ❌ Apostasy, enforcement of belief. 50:17 ⚖ Apostasy punishment, Rushdie's fatwa. 52:08 🔴 Charlie Hebdo, depictions of Muhammad. 52:36 📚 Rules on depictions mostly apply to believers. 53:04 🔥 Quranic penalties and secular morality conflict. 54:01 ✋ Disproportionate punishments in Quran. 55:00 👥 Quranic penalties differ from secular views. 56:16 🌈 Sharia law's stance on homosexuality. 01:15:27 🧪 Debating moral perspectives. 01:18:08 🌍 Ontologies in moral philosophy. 01:20:13 🤔 Assumption of universal moral philosophies. 01:24:18 💬 Objective morality debates. 01:31:26 🗣 Need for respectful discourse. 01:36:10 🧐 Problem of God's omniscience and infinity. 01:36:51 🤔 God's knowledge and infinity conflict. 01:37:19 🌌 Qualitative vs. quantitative infinity. 01:40:21 💡 Attributes and infinite limitations. 01:45:07 🤝 Objectivity of ethics, grounded in suffering. 01:58:07 🤖 Argument on evil's existence and substantiation. 01:58:22 🛡 Good's degrees and argument's relevance. 01:58:58 💼 Divine wisdom and evil's absence. 01:59:28 💬 Deflection countered, evil and wisdom discussed. 02:00:11 📚 Accounts of good, wisdom, and evil.
I swear to God ever since I realised the reality of life I always constantly remind me that we are so blessed to be Muslims. I know for sure one super good man in my lineage would have converted from Hinduism to Muslim in South India ---- Imagine the blessings this soul must be getting.... May Allah raise this person who brought us to the right path.... I believe we would have converted anywhere between 400-500 years back.... Alhamdullillah Islam is the right thing to have anywhere we live.
@@abayomrunkojemusa9086don't think of it like that as guidance came to you and you accepted and thus having all your previous sins forgiven Masha'Allah. I often wonder if I wasn't born Muslim and someone gave me Da'wah, would I accept? May Allah keep you and us steadfast upon this religion and may He also guide your family to the Deen like He has with you. Ameen
If they don't know how to handle a debate as a chair, they shouldn't be on the chair in the first place. The organisation of the debate was absolutely biased and outright rude. Anyways, Alhamdulillah for Hamza and Hijab ❤❤
Absolutely, like how can you always interrupt when Mohammed Hijab or Hamza is speaking? It‘s so obvious and they even laughed as if they know everything without even listening to hime fully
*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Introduction 02:49 - Background of the Panelists 07:01 - Format of the Discussion 08:20 - Other Panelists 09:06 - Opening Statement by Eron 24:19 - Opening Statement by Mohammed Hijab: (Arguments for the existence of God) 30:06 - Arguments for God being only One 32:13 - Proof of Prophethood of Muhammad ﷺ 37:22 - Response to Eron's arguments 38:58 - Mohammed Hijab recites the Qur'an 39:34 - Opening Statement by Mark 58:27 - Opening Statement by Hamza Tzortzis 59:09 - Islamic response to the Problem of Evil 1:00:13 - Islamic Response to the Euthyphro dilemma 1:01:39 - The Qur'anic argument of prior cognitive information 1:16:25 - Ethics & Naturalism 1:19:12 - Objective Truth of Morality: Islam vs Liberalism/Atheism 1:30:08 - Eron's contentions & Hijab's response 1:34:10 - Discussion on Infinities 1:36:25 - Eron's argument against God's omniscience 1:38:00 - Debunking Eron's argument 1:40:53 - Discussion on Beliefs/Mind of God 1:43:37 - God vs Infinity 1:47:36 - Claim of grounding Objective Ethics in Suffering 1:49:55 - Refutation of the Suffering claim 1:50:50 - Eron's response about Suffering 1:51:36 - Scrutinizing Eron's response 1:55:00 - Hamza's review of the discussion so far 1:57:22 - The Problem of Evil & its Islamic response 2:00:54 - Argument of Contradiction of God creating evil 2:03:18 - Refutation of the Argument 2:06:54 - Closing
An Atheist asked Ahmed Deedat: How would you feel if you died and discovered that the Hereafter was a lie? Ahmed Deedat replied: Not worse than when you die and discover that the Hereafter is the TRUTH. Islam will win with or without you, but without Islam you will get lost and lose.
I would reply that the question is erroneous. That question can only be raised under the ideology of islam i.e there is space for thought process/a paradigm where one can think and regret/celeberate his death. Under athiesm, there is nothing after death..... how can one think after death under arhiesm..... he is finished..... gone.....!
MashAllah! Alhamdulilah for having these opportunities. This was such a good setting and an amazing opportunity. As a South African who has served on very similar MSA committees I must say this was gearing up to be flawless and got completely unnecessarily interfered with by the uncle in the end. That was such poor form and uncalled for. The chair of the debate interjected when he really should not have either and when you invite speakers of such magnitude and who are known for being dynamic, what do you expect? I don't know why I was so bothered by this I am posting a comment. I just make duah Allah can help us all control our ego and respect renowned scholars who have dedicated decades to learning this religion.
As a South African I'm quite disappointed with the extremely poor organisation of this discussion. How could they not book the room for longer than the expected time the debate was intended to run for? Additionally there were several disturbances and the chair kept talking at length instead of timekeeping.
absolutely. They fly these gentlemen over from wherever country in the world and literally only have 2 hours for a debate between 4 intellectuals? What a joke and disappointment.
A bit disappointed honestly. I am an engineer/computer scientist, and have been practicing Islam for nearly 10 years now. I am not philosophically trained, nor religiously trained, and my knowledge is primarily from TH-cam lectures and/or books. Despite that, I could find so many problematic and inconsistent statements with the atheists' positions. I expected more, I wanted to be challenged. Indeed, if we build walls of intellectualism upon foundations of truth, these walls would be unshakably and firmly grounded on all fronts. And walls of intellectualism built upon falsehood will always end in collapse. Alhamdulillah for Islam.
The challenge is knowing that the opposition to the truth always have the same mechanical behaviour. It is just like reciting quran getting to the ayah of satan telling his feelings, or hearing about the wrong doers, then come the next week or the next month or the next year (depending upon how much time it takes to complete reading the quran) and hearing the same phrase of satan telling us his feelings or hearing about the wrong doers. So much so it becomes like periods of the moon or heavenly bodies. The deniers arguments being so predictable.
Scientist of engineering in chemicals of materials here. Same. What we saw here was a respectful display from atheists, which is uncommon from past debates like with krauss, aron ra or wood, and that is why atheists struggle. It s because when the atheist doesnt play semantics or attack with ad homs, his position becomes painfully obviously as an emotional dogmatist..
Here to say that I am sorry you thought that atheism was suppose to be a challenge. There is no challenge to Islam. Only a challenge to muslims. Holdfast and Alhadmullilah!
@@ummerfarooq5383That’s very well put. For those who are sure in their faith, the deniers arguments are like wails that come routinely like periodic chore.
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt. Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
@@syedbaqir2687Do not argue and fighting with each other. We are muslims. Any differences between us, just come back to Quran, sunnah and Hadith of Prophet Muhammad. Period.
Thank you so much for uploading this entire debate in 1080p! Downloaded it & will turn it into clips to share with people its going to be great you uncivilised big baby
@@salahuddeenayyubi9515 He's been a revert for 4 years, I'm sure he's well acquainted with Islam. So welcome wouldn't be correct, but rather Ma Sha Allah
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@@truth80855 minutes until hijab interrupted him. God knows how long he would have gone on for. He was clout chasing of hijabs name and tried to include himself in the debate.
Do not confuse a Muslim’s need to be humble with their right to fight back when required. Our Prophet (SAW) was the kindest and most humble human to ever exist, but he also went to war to protect the ummah. Both can exist at the same time. Well done brother Hijab! ❤
@@jodolski if you’re focusing on that rather than the content of what he said and the arguments he put across that the atheists didn’t even have a proper answer for, then you’re looking at this the wrong way and maybe not mature enough to see the bigger picture
@@specter1019 I’m not dismissing the merits of the Muslim arguments. They were solid. The atheists didn’t have a chance to respond. Debates like these don’t deserve to be confined to 2 hour sessions to be honest. It would’ve been better to focus on a single question / subject area and expand on that for hours instead of asking 4 or 6 different questions that acted as offshoots to a pretty general question.
@@jodolskiunderstand that people have different personalities and he doesn’t have to fit your pacific style and personality just because you feel uncomfortable with some heat in a normal yet critical discussion. Bro, stop talking like women, when they have no ground to respond on, they attack the way a person speaks, it’s a very known tactic among lawyers. It is said, if you don’t have an argument, play the man! Hijab was appropriate considering the context, enough with this passive approach that you grow up with because you are afraid to be accused of being aggressive and extremist nonsense.
@crusader7356you’re very delusional. these people are nothing compared to hijab. he’s highly educated on the topics he discusses, cant be say about his opponents. jp one was not a debate but a discussion.
@crusader7356 Don't be desperate boy. You typing comment saying he lost all debates doesn't make it true objectively. Come out of your delusional and watch his debate with open and rational mind but of course, what can we expect from people who cannot even rationally think that it is impossible for something to come out of nothing. He won all the debates but only an openminded person can see that not a sheep like you follows the rules and customs of the West. If you are told that a man can become a woman and vice versa, a boy can identify himself a dog or any other thing, eating meeting is wrong, homosexuality is right, you just believe it blindly without even thinking with your own mind. If a person doesn't want to see the truth, you can't force him to see it.
@crusader7356 ah yes the audience, who most of them clapped in applause and belief towards what mohammad hijab was saying, was on the opposing side, who had 2 people applause at one point, 2.
If anyone thinks that because you are a muslim, you have to be subordinate and humble in all times and situations, you are simply wrong. Well done brother Hijab!
@@yushaibnegwa9756 exactly and from hijabs conduct alone i dont think any non muslim will be delving deeper into islam because of him regardless of how sound his arguments may be
In fact, most people do not believe in religion to avoid responsibility. Because they are afraid of not living the life they want. Why should they believe in a religion that prohibits alcohol, pork, gambling, premarital sex, eating interest, commands giving alms to the poor, and commands prayer 5 times a day?
This was very interesting. I lost the thread at the end though. Around 2:05:00 they discuss "There is nothing in creation better than what is." and how Islamic scholars discussed about its meaning for long time, and one of them wrote a book about it. Then the black suit guy asked what was the answer that was given, and blue suit guy looked like segmentation fault, several in the audience laughed, the guy with yellow hoodie facepalmed, the guy off-screen said let's move on, and the gray suit guy did. What happened there?
Now I’ve seen it all… moderators interrupting a debate to then interject their own views and opinions instead of letting the panelists argue their points🤦🏻♂️
i think they was frustrated that they organised a debate agaisnt the muslim brothers and did bring the best of the best and still the brothers handled that very easly, they made a trap that didnt work at all 😂
you were a pagan fire worshipper hindu and now you're a Muslim pure clean and upright on the path of LA HAWLA WALAH QUWATA ILLAH BILLAH AND LA ILLAH HA ILLILLAH MUHAMMAD PBUH RASOOL ALLAH ❤❤❤☝️☝️☝️
Respect to Hijab for not letting their attempts at silencing him stop him. These athiests need to speak with their chest and argue the points, instead of crying about being scared and “uncomfortable” about Hijab’s tone of voice lol. They should expect different personalities and styles of debating. And also, the panellist moderators were absolutely unprofessional and rude. What a joke.
@@kamranabbasi6757yes but regardless some people have a more assertive and authoritative personality, this is how Hijab is and always has been, if you are a grown up you should have no issue accepting this rather than being intimidated by it
Spot on this is exactly why they can't handle him. The Western intellectuals have been acting arrogantly and unchallenged for far too long things are about to change.
Muhammad Hijab is very talented! Subhanallah, Alhamdulillah, Allah has blessed him with a remarkably retentive memory. I've watched many of his debates, and most of the time, he speaks without referring to a paper or any device. What a blessing to the ummah! I have a question, MH. How do you remember so much accurately while speaking quickly and articulately?
I am a Muslim (Bengali Canadian) and I once was steering towards atheism in my early 20s during my Bachelors'. Today, I am a proud Muslim and Brother Hijab and Brother Tzortzis are strongly responsible for rectifying my Aqeedah (creed). Thank you brothers! Fine work as always!
Hijab you show poor manners. Remember the learned used to learn manners before they learned knowledge. A lot of knowledge is ruined by poor manners. Whereas a small amount of knowledge is beautified by good manners
@@jjohn408 Why shouldn't he be enraged being treated like a child when he is clearly more qualified than all of the panel. Just because he has an 'assertive' voice (he himself mentioned after being disrupted many times throughout), what gives white men the right to shut him up? This is how Africans discuss, the voice is loud. Be 'inclusive'. Why do we always have to conform to white men standards of discussion?
@@jjohn408 Sometimes, righteous anger (indignance) is a virtue. This was one of those times. Speak out for your rights to speak. He did it in a well-mannered tone given the rudeness of the panel/speakers.
@@jjohn408 also, these two white men as usual attacked Islamic sharia law calling it barbaric essentially and also misrepresenting it. Typical white savior/white man's burden mentality. They committed the most racist and heinous and genocidal crimes the past few centuries and they wanna lecture us?! Get outta here!
@@chtadow13 Yes drag queen story hours is forcing homosexuality upon kids, which is conditioning them into a belief that having dingy dingy with adult pdf file atheists is normal. This is why atheists and muslims agree so much on so many thing, because mupedohammad was pdf file too *sunan abi dawud 2121* *_Remember:_*_ The international apostacy day for muslims is on 22nd of August_
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt. Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
@@Mohamed_lemin_alyaqoubi Why are you scared. You people always used to say dont debate with shias LMAO HAHAHA because everything will break down. Do you want to talk? I *CHALLANGE* you bring me ONE hadith about abu bakr caliphate. There is *NONE* . I have several for Imam Ali (AS)
I always watch your full videos. But audio quality of this video is not good as others. Please make sure about your audio quality next time . Love from Bangladesh ❤
This is not only exciting but it’s truly monumental. A first of its kind. Thank you MH and HT. Hopefully, there are many more debates like this from now on. Takbeer!!!
I respect the confidence of the brothers. They know they are in the right and they aren't afraid to make it crystal clear that they're not here to be lectured with no evidence.
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt. Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
@@syedbaqir2687 Quran says to follow muhajireen and Ansar. Who are the muhajireen? You cannot find Shi'ism in the quran. But you can find the way of ahl al sunna wal jamaa
I think MH got heated because the atheists kept missing the points of the questions the muslims were putting forward and then the atheists make a sly comment about some Islamic legal concept they deem as wrong. 1. They fail to answer questions. 2. They make false comments about Islam. 3. They tell MH to calm down when he raises his voice. This discussion was an awkward mess especially with the weird hosts' interjections and passive aggressiveness.
They also came into the discussion of morality with the belief that their view is correct, which infuriated Hijab since he was asking why they thought that. Notice how they didn’t respond to why they think their morality should be the only way for everyone.
1. presentation/introduction panel peoples were very unprofessional shuttering and lacking and interrupt in very important moment 2x. 2. mark oppenheimer start to gives examples from the Quran about morality Which they don't know what they are talking about, they don't even study the Classic Arabic so they don't know classic Arabic. all of this things the mark has been mentioned or talk about from the Quran about morality those things has been dealt with so many time and answered, some claims he made are not from the Quran, some of them are just blunt lies that has been made up by islamophobs long long time ago. it just shows his (mark) lack of research about this topic before came into panel. 3. after that Muhammad Hijab got angry. he never should get angry or triggered by this people also I want to say to Mark that he never should talk about those things he doesn't know/researched completely or fully about those topic. 4. I also believe Hamza also get trigger or angry after mark speech. and later Hamza and Hijab made little bit of fun or bully the Atheist panel. which I don't support also I don't support mark it just shows his lack of research about this topic before came into panel. 5. this discussion was not about morality it was about the existence of god true or false. 6. my discussion rating over all 7.5/10
The point MH was making was simple and they knew they were stuck. As an atheist you have no basis of morality, so when you choose to make an assessment on it, you have to at least show were your basis is. MH was saying..since you won't make it clear, your statement seems to be based off a system that is infallible and morally proven to cause more damage in the lifespan of it's activity. Where as we (Muslims) have had a guide on moral truths from creation, and then reaffirmed through our final prophet. How dare he then pass judgement from a vacuum or even a currpt system while then hiding your hands saying he wasn't there to tell where his actual source of morality stemmed from
I'm from SA and I'm ashamed at how this discussion was handled by the guy in blue! Why should we be submissive when they make false claims. I have the greatest of respect for both M. Hijab and Tzortis. May Allah bless you and keep you steadfast on this path. Allahu Akbr
wow the chair was so unprofessional and unorganised, could get even set a time for q/a. also the beeping noise so they had fix that issue and waste time. then they started to blame the 4 people because they did not get time for q/a. its not they fault its chair for not organising it properly
@@lokidedbeat1878 Imagine trying to blame the panelist’s when they couldn’t get the debate in order. What a bunch of clowns. SA I’m disappointed. If I was MH or Hamza I would decline any further invitations from them.
And what was up with the chairman and his erm erm erm and fancy hands? Also the uncle next to him coming out at the last moment to throw his toys out of the cot😂 As a former UJ student, this was totally embarrassing. Not mentioning the weak atheist arguments. Come on you're going up against 2 giants, is this the best UJ could put forward? Mohammed and Hamza are true legends. Alhamdulillah ALLAH PAK bless you for all the work you do and the many whome you inspire.
Yall don't get Hijab 😅 he cares about you that much to get that passionate or hype in today's terms.. much love and appreciation for a such a rich conversation.
*What is meant by heaven and hell?* Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said: As a matter of fact, Paradise is not a word that refers only to trees, fruits, food, drink, hoor al-‘een, rivers and palaces.👉 *Most people are mistaken when they think that Paradise is limited to that, for Paradise is a name for the abode of perfect and absolute bliss, and one of the greatest joys of Paradise will be the pleasure of gazing upon the noble Countenance of Allah and hearing His words, and the delight of being close to Him and attaining His pleasure. There can be no comparison between the physical pleasures in Paradise - such as food, drink, clothing and images - and that pleasure.Attaining the least divine pleasure is greater than Paradise and all that it contains,* as Allah, may He be exalted, says 👉 (interpretation of the meaning): *“But the good pleasure of Allah is greater still” [at-Tawbah 9:72].* In other words, no matter the extent to which Allah is pleased with His slave, even if it is small, *it is still greater than Paradise.* In the *saheeh hadith* about seeing Allah, it says: *“… and Allah will not give them anything that is dearer to them than gazing upon His Countenance.”* According to another hadith: “When He, may He be glorified, manifests Himself to them and they see His Countenance with their own eyes, *they will forget all the bliss that they had been enjoying,* and will become oblivious to that joy and will pay no attention to it.” Undoubtedly, this is how it is, And the matter is much greater than one could think or imagine, especially when the lovers there find themselves with the one whom they love, for a person will be with the one whom he loves. What bliss, delight, joy or triumph could come close to the joy, pleasure and tranquillity of being with Allah? Is there anything superior to the pleasure and joy of being close to the Beloved, for there is nothing greater than Him, or more perfect, or more beautiful, and nothing could give greater comfort and happiness? This - by Allah - is the type of knowledge that the lovers are striving hard to attain, and is the banner around which all those who have knowledge of Allah rally. It is the most important thing in Paradise, through which Paradise becomes a place of joy, and the life of Paradise is based on that. So how can it be said that one should not worship Allah for the sake of attaining Paradise or for fear of Hell? 👉 *Similarly, Hell* - may Allah protect us from it - is a place where its dwellers will suffer a great deal when they are partitioned away from Allah and suffer disgrace, divine wrath and anger, and being far away from Him. That will be worse than the flames of fire in their bodies and souls. In fact, the flames of this fire in their hearts is what led to the flames burning their bodies, for those flames spread everywhere in their bodies from their hearts. The aspiration of the Prophets and Messengers, the siddeeqs (the strong and true in faith), the martyrs and the righteous is Paradise, and what they seek to flee from is Hell. And Allah is the source of strength, and in Him we put our trust. There is no power and no strength except with Allah; Allah is sufficient for us, and He is the best disposer of affairs. {Madaarij as-Saalikeen (2/80, 81)}
@mutirehman6292 Quite a bit. I am a retired Expeimental Pschology professor specializing in Cognitive Constructs, Perception, and Learning. Did I answer your question DIRECTLY? Yes or no.
@@Theo_Skeptomai no really i am not joking.what I said was what do you no about his thinking you might be a professor great for you but no matter how much of a greater thinker you are how could you talk about someone else thinking like that. BTW no hard feelings. Plus i think you are probably joking about the professor thing
Could someone explain hijab's argument from his opening speech at the beginning? He said that an infinite chain of dependant things is an absurd proposition. The reason being, because if this was actualized in an actual world through an infinite amount of multi verses, that would imply that the inexhaustable has been exhausted. What exactly is he referring to when he means the inexhaustable and in what sense has it been exhausted? This example for why an inifinite chain is an absurd proposition is not quite clear to me. Would be really greatful if someone understood this and could help me out.
I was introduced to Islam 24 years ago and while I may not practice Islam whole-heartedly, I believe that the Qur’an is the true authentic message from God.
brother, if you believe that it is the authentic message, shouldn’t the fear lead you to attempt to be a practicing muslim. wish all the best on you bro
Take it one day at a time, each day you're a different muslim and judge what you do on that day and seek forgiveness for what has passed and yet to come. Allah is the most merciful.
Aslong as what the other comments have said. Take your Shahada. Now you don't have to be a "full time" Muslim. Just refrain from major sin and within time you would naturally adjust, Allah never said to go from 0 to 100, that's one reason he's the most Merciful. Now don't take it the wrong way, it dosent mean you can play the game May God's mercy be upon you. Alhamdullillah
Me and my wife used to be Hindus and we were hardcore Hindutva nationalists who hated Muslims. In 2019 we converted to Islam and changed our names alhamdullah ❤😊
I am happy for both of you, and may Allah bless you both.
which city are you from? what made you convert to islam? how it all started?
MashaAllah
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
@@hannawurst6064Listen, what is so hard about believing in a SINGLE and UNIQUE God ?
i was a Hindu...reverted to Islam in. 2014..Alhamdulillah
SubhanAllah, may Allah SWT put barakah in your life and those muslims around you
Mashallah
bro how about muslim in india ? do you from india brother?
Same. I was a hindu who was forced to drink cow dung every day
@@RationalBeliver No,I am from Bangladesh
on aug 18th 2023 i accepted islam into my heart. best decision of my life
Did you like the concept of virgins and wine in jannah brozzerrr?
I Founding the true Islam I decided to quit Islam .
Masha'Allah. Welcome to the truth abd tge path if all prophers, including prophet Jesus (AS). May Allah carve your path and keep you steadfast on his path, Insha'Allah.
Good luck, now you can never leave because leaving is punishable by DEATH !
Mashallah
I am a christened Roman Catholic, turned Agnostic at a young age, who will soon take his Shahada, as I believe Allah SWT is the center of creation and I adore Islam and it's teachings, as well as the unseen levels of brotherhood and sisterhood of within.
As much of respect and admiration as I have for mr. Mohammed Hijab, I must adress one thing which I'm not fond of. His facial expressions, most of the time while listening to other side of the table, are those of arrogance (in a lack of a better word, because English is not my 1st language). It seems he doesn't listen with open heart and open mind, even though he is a philosopher and more importatnly, a prominent muslim. He smirks all the time and I hope I'm not the only one who sees it. He knows he is right, I know he is right and most of you know he is right, but that doesn't mean he should look upon others in that particular way. I understand he must be tired of all of these debates with non-believers, sometimes fatigue can get the better out of a person and I wish no harm to him by these words of mine.
If I'm wrong here, in the name of Allah SWT, please correct me as I failed to know better at the moment of writing this comment.
Peace and love brothers and sisters.
@@laila970 I took my Shahada one hour ago, a friend gave it to me. Your words inspired me to do it as soon as possible. Thank you from the depth of my heart. ❤️
Receive my sincere condolences for your late friend.
@@FalconSideSwipe welcome brother. Even though I most probably won't ever meet you, I love and respect you, brother. May Allah grant you all the blessings you ever wished for
@@spoderman6969 Thank you brother. I love and respect you as well.
@@FalconSideSwipemay Allah keep you steadfast isa ❤. And brother hijab was bit aggressive because the openhimer guy kept making false Strawmen about islam from shia books which we reject. And he made a moral argument against islam without even showing his moral objectivity. Which is a contradiction from his behalf. You can’t say something is bad and you don’t prove how you deduced that your morals is objective
Thank you for pointing this out. Muhammad Hijab is an arrogant bully
I was hindu but I accepted Islam. My mother forced me to leave before my brother and father found out and she thought I converted to marry a Muslim. She though I would have somewhere to go but was on the streets for 6months. But my faith was strong 💪 and I’m off the streets.
May Allah grant you abundant reward in this world and next. Ameen
@@nahinisrat1182amen
I have never been through what been through . I'm born muslim . Your story reminds me of how islam started . You are a role model, and Allah favours you to me .
Mashallah
@@enddaoccupation
May be you are talking about that companion of Prophet Mohammad ﷺ .
Who was greatly spoilt by his mother but when he accepted Islam his mother removed him from home.
Subhanallah,
he had everything from his family and mother but he saw that his family is wrong for being pagan and he has shown truth in Islam and Prophet Mohammad ﷺ and understood Oneness of The God Allah .
Watching this from Cape Town.
I embraced Islam 2 months ago.
ALLAHU AKBAR!!!
Alhamdulillah, lekker my bru, CT got a wonderful muslim community. May Allah keep you steadfast.
I am In Cape Town too. I would love to grab a coffee
Mashallah ❤
Mashallah
Are you related to former proteas wicketkeeper Mark Boucher?
As someone who is slowly “converting” from a atheist to a Muslim this was a must watch.
Converting to a death cult? Are you crazy?
Do you believe in talking Ants?
@@ddrum757the one who made you talk can make even rocks talk, what's possible shouldn't be limited by what we are used to..
@@ddrum757 do you believe in alternative realities/ the multiverses 🙄
@@ddrum757atheist believe in multiverse..so talking ant is not impossible for atheist too
I became a Muslim this week after long research and this debate opened my eyes. And what made me decide to be a Muslim is the atheists and not the Muslims. 😊😊
Alhamdulillah congrats ! 😊😊
Mash Allah!!!
Welcome to the right path
AFTER LONG RESEARCH!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 SO DO YOU KNOW THAT ALLAH CHANGE HIS WORDS AFTER LESS THAN ONE HOUR??!! PLEASE LAUGH
58:12 When you (want to) consult the Messenger in private, spend something in charity before your private consultation....WAS ABROGATED AFTER BEING IN EFFECT FOR ONLY ONE HOUR OF A DAY. `Abdur-Razzaq recorded that Mujahid said that `Ali said, "No one except me implemented this Ayah, until it was abrogated,'' and he was reported to have said that IT REMAINED IN EFFECT FOR MERELY AN HOUR....IBN KATHIR......AND THOSE TWO BULLIES, PATHETIC LAUGHING STOCKS ARE SPEAKING ABOUT ALL KNOWING ALLAH!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
MashaAllah welcome 🤲🏿
Mashallah
Bringing Speakers Corner indoors 💪
Fancy seeing you here!
Salam, surprising seeing you comment here haha
speakers corner kulfi
We need ketchup kulfi.
Please do one thing and stray away from using music in your videos. Just an advice
After watching this debate, I decided to become a more practicing Muslim.😊 Islam is the ultimate Reality.
Al Hamdou lilleh
Keep going bro
Alhumdulillah
Alhamdullilah but my bro, this video was uploaded 5 hours before you made that comment lollll. Take away two hours to watch it. So you became a better Muslim in those 3 hours ?
Lolll may Allah preserve you my brother, just abit of banter
Ha!! Keep going but dont try to leave. They'll kill ya.
Hijab you show poor manners. Remember the learned used to learn manners before they learned knowledge. A lot of knowledge is ruined by poor manners. Whereas a small amount of knowledge is beautified by good manners
Why does all religion challenges Islam?
I don't see any hindu vs Buddhist, hindu vs singh,...
Hindu vs atheists... Because Islam is sensibly true...
Hinduism is bullshit they can't define what God is Christianity is irrational like concept of trinity and only Judaism and Islam left behind jews are in power economically but they do not usually debate on this topic only Islam left with true. Understanding of God and his book
True
Its the fastest growing religion more and more are drawn to it. Alhamdulillah
because hindu themselve dont belive their religion . there 10-15 types of hindus . and they worship anyone they find good or successful .
but all of them have one thing in common they hate muslim and do the opposite of muslim
You can view it as they want to continue following their desires and lack self accountability. They know if they accept Islam, the truth, then they have to let go of their desires, which a lot do not want to do.
Ex Christian and Muslim Alhamdulillah 😇💫☪️
MachaAllah ❤🎉
What changed your mind from Christianity to Islam?
What was your initial reason for becoming a Christian?
Nothing proud about jumping from madness to insanity 😂
@@AnonymousAlien2099 what do you mean by that?
What religion are you?
Anybody that knows Christianity, but most importantly Jesus Christ can never leave Him for Islamic paganism.
Mashallah barakallah
Love how you’re defending Islam on the greatest of stages!!!
May Allah preserve you!!
Ayo brother. More events like this should be done in America as well
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;*
as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
@@TS-zd2udYou dont make any sense? Jesus is jesus and God is God?
Every prophet who was sent came with the words of God? They where not literally the word of God?
Jesus was set by God, Jezus prayed to God, Jezus had a God, Jesus talked with/to God? So NO God had a NOT a son or children and NO God is not a man or a baby who is bron.
And lets get back to the point you have christians that say that God HAS literally a Son so the Quran speaks to al the sects of christanty also that some call Mary the mother of God..
greatest of stages!!!? not greatest of course that's for sure.
I am Muslim and today I rectified my Iman
@@obaid1333 changed my name today
alhamdoulilah much love brother
Only allah knows about what is in the hearts.
So only congratulations brother
We pray to allah that he give you more knowledge and wisdom and taqwa too.
Inshallah
@obaid1333 are you saying he was/is Buddhist?
That sounds much better.
Very proud of you my dear.
Now you do deserve the 300+ 👍 😅.
I found the perfect balance in Hamza. His mannerism, tone, assertiveness, his succint responses and ofcourse his knowledge base is what really stood out for me.
Yes mashallah he is absolutely amazing!
Definitely, I love how he reigns in Hijab and allows him to defend his position all while allowing his own points to flow into the discussion.
Hamza is a gem. Ma sha Allah
Absolutely
Mohammad is far more articulate deep learning and strongly speaking
The title should be: Hamza and Hijab Vs Atheists and the panel! 😂😂😂
Everybody's gangsta until Muhammad hijab start using new English words
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I accepted Islam yesterday. Proud to be Muslim. ❤ 😊
Ayyeee Congratulations!! Welcome to Islam😊😊
Allahu akbar welcome my may Allah make you strong in the religion and make you happy with your fantastic choice❤
ALHAMDULILAH
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ALHAMDULILAH Congratulations
People really can't differentiate between speaking passionately and shouting.
I think it’s a cultural misunderstanding.
Alhamdellah I'm a Muslim. I love this deen everyday more and more.
I couldn't stop smiling while Muhammad Hijab was speaking, and the youth in the background were softly smiling. They knew that Islam is the truth. May Allah increase our eman and give us Muslims the pride that we had once upon a time. 🤲
ameen yaa rabb...
Ameen Ya Rabb Al Alamiin
Only other Muslims turned up to listen, thats why there are only smiles. No one else really cared enough to even turn up!
@@jamieguthrie1760there were many claps for athiestic points. Sure more of the islamic ones. But there were quite a few athiests there too.
@@jamieguthrie1760nobody will ever clap for you when you're this proud
" I got 20 seconds ,so I'm gonna recite the Quran". And recites surah Ikhlas
Just amazing
Love you Muhammad Hijab❤❤❤
Alhamdulillah
I am very disappointed with how he acted seeing as how respectful the opponents were. They aren’t career islamophobes for him to justify this behavior
@@ILoveLuhaidan brother, if you watch his other videos, you will understand the nature of this man
. He is love
@@ILoveLuhaidan Pdf file atheists force homosexuality on kids in order to condition them for dingy dingy with pdf file atheists from a very early age.
@@ILoveLuhaidanyou are right buddy
But
M.hijab speaks like that
It seems harsh
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I'm from afghanistan
I totally get it
Mohammed hijab has helped me actually be proud of my religion and to start practicing it 6-7 years ago. May Allah reward you immensly.
AI generated timestamps:
00:13 🎙 Event intro on religious dialogue.
01:25 🌍 Fostering communal belief discussions in Africa.
02:09 🔍 Deep importance of religious questions.
03:19 📚 Panelists' introductions in philosophy and theology.
07:04 📊 Discussion format outlined.
23:50 🕊 Logical argument from evil presented.
26:21 🔄 Contradictions in "limitless becoming limited."
27:00 💡 Naturalism as explanation for equality.
27:38 📜 Necessity of an independent, eternal being.
28:27 🔄 Contingent things indicating a necessary being.
32:38 💼 Prophet Muhammad's accurate predictions.
41:12 💬 Secular ethics rooted in suffering alleviation.
43:32 🤝 Kant's Categorical Imperative for morality.
46:03 🔄 Rawls' "veil of ignorance" for moral principles.
49:49 ❌ Apostasy, enforcement of belief.
50:17 ⚖ Apostasy punishment, Rushdie's fatwa.
52:08 🔴 Charlie Hebdo, depictions of Muhammad.
52:36 📚 Rules on depictions mostly apply to believers.
53:04 🔥 Quranic penalties and secular morality conflict.
54:01 ✋ Disproportionate punishments in Quran.
55:00 👥 Quranic penalties differ from secular views.
56:16 🌈 Sharia law's stance on homosexuality.
01:15:27 🧪 Debating moral perspectives.
01:18:08 🌍 Ontologies in moral philosophy.
01:20:13 🤔 Assumption of universal moral philosophies.
01:24:18 💬 Objective morality debates.
01:31:26 🗣 Need for respectful discourse.
01:36:10 🧐 Problem of God's omniscience and infinity.
01:36:51 🤔 God's knowledge and infinity conflict.
01:37:19 🌌 Qualitative vs. quantitative infinity.
01:40:21 💡 Attributes and infinite limitations.
01:45:07 🤝 Objectivity of ethics, grounded in suffering.
01:58:07 🤖 Argument on evil's existence and substantiation.
01:58:22 🛡 Good's degrees and argument's relevance.
01:58:58 💼 Divine wisdom and evil's absence.
01:59:28 💬 Deflection countered, evil and wisdom discussed.
02:00:11 📚 Accounts of good, wisdom, and evil.
thank you broski!!
Which ai? Is it bard ?
Which ai was used brother?
@@sediqiafghan6575 he used opus clip
Logical argument from evil?? Presented?
Hijab didn't go into this with "conversation" energy 😂
He came in with speakers corner energy 😂
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We often take it for granted, but us born muslims are blessed.
I swear to God ever since I realised the reality of life I always constantly remind me that we are so blessed to be Muslims. I know for sure one super good man in my lineage would have converted from Hinduism to Muslim in South India ---- Imagine the blessings this soul must be getting.... May Allah raise this person who brought us to the right path.... I believe we would have converted anywhere between 400-500 years back.... Alhamdullillah Islam is the right thing to have anywhere we live.
Alhamdulillah, i envy you. I was born in a Christian family and i wish i accepted Islam earlier even though we are all born muslims.
I was thinking about that today at Jumm'ah Salah
@@abayomrunkojemusa9086don't think of it like that as guidance came to you and you accepted and thus having all your previous sins forgiven Masha'Allah. I often wonder if I wasn't born Muslim and someone gave me Da'wah, would I accept?
May Allah keep you and us steadfast upon this religion and may He also guide your family to the Deen like He has with you. Ameen
for real, alhamdulillah
If they don't know how to handle a debate as a chair, they shouldn't be on the chair in the first place. The organisation of the debate was absolutely biased and outright rude.
Anyways, Alhamdulillah for Hamza and Hijab ❤❤
Absolutely, like how can you always interrupt when Mohammed Hijab or Hamza is speaking? It‘s so obvious and they even laughed as if they know everything without even listening to hime fully
Alhamdulilah I'm muslim ☪️ ❤️
Nobody cares.
*Timestamps:*
00:00 - Introduction
02:49 - Background of the Panelists
07:01 - Format of the Discussion
08:20 - Other Panelists
09:06 - Opening Statement by Eron
24:19 - Opening Statement by Mohammed Hijab:
(Arguments for the existence of God)
30:06 - Arguments for God being only One
32:13 - Proof of Prophethood of Muhammad ﷺ
37:22 - Response to Eron's arguments
38:58 - Mohammed Hijab recites the Qur'an
39:34 - Opening Statement by Mark
58:27 - Opening Statement by Hamza Tzortzis
59:09 - Islamic response to the Problem of Evil
1:00:13 - Islamic Response to the Euthyphro dilemma
1:01:39 - The Qur'anic argument of prior cognitive information
1:16:25 - Ethics & Naturalism
1:19:12 - Objective Truth of Morality: Islam vs Liberalism/Atheism
1:30:08 - Eron's contentions & Hijab's response
1:34:10 - Discussion on Infinities
1:36:25 - Eron's argument against God's omniscience
1:38:00 - Debunking Eron's argument
1:40:53 - Discussion on Beliefs/Mind of God
1:43:37 - God vs Infinity
1:47:36 - Claim of grounding Objective Ethics in Suffering
1:49:55 - Refutation of the Suffering claim
1:50:50 - Eron's response about Suffering
1:51:36 - Scrutinizing Eron's response
1:55:00 - Hamza's review of the discussion so far
1:57:22 - The Problem of Evil & its Islamic response
2:00:54 - Argument of Contradiction of God creating evil
2:03:18 - Refutation of the Argument
2:06:54 - Closing
Please continue
Thank you for your hard work
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bro watched on 2x speed
jazakullauhu khayrun
I’ve been a Muslim for 20 years Alhamdullilah
Mashallah
Love these vids! I am an athiest south african and i encourage more debates!
terribly organized event.. but nevertheless an incredible discussion!!!! May Allah SWT protect and bless Brothers Hamza & Mohammad
I am a Muslim and today I'm also a muslim ☪️😊
😂
Alhamdulilah
Alhadulillah 😂😂
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Lmao Alhamdullilah aki 😂😅❤
Mashallah both Mohammed and Hamza NEVER seize to amaze me❤️
55:59 The two GUYS behind Hijab are smiling with joy, they are like me in a hurry to listen to the response of the Hijab and Hamza duo
An Atheist asked Ahmed Deedat:
How would you feel if you died and discovered that the Hereafter was a lie?
Ahmed Deedat replied: Not worse than when you die and discover that the Hereafter is the TRUTH.
Islam will win with or without you, but without Islam you will get lost and lose.
I would reply that the question is erroneous. That question can only be raised under the ideology of islam i.e there is space for thought process/a paradigm where one can think and regret/celeberate his death. Under athiesm, there is nothing after death..... how can one think after death under arhiesm..... he is finished..... gone.....!
@@muhammadkhurramiqbal Nice Bro, but just think about it which is more rational?
@@AyKuTRyu definitely having the belief in hereafter and keeping the safe side. Deedat sb is has said the right thing
@@muhammadkhurramiqbal Excellent!
I like your attitude bro😉
Brother there are multiple religions that indicates god is none of them
This is actually better than a Champions League final
MashAllah! Alhamdulilah for having these opportunities. This was such a good setting and an amazing opportunity. As a South African who has served on very similar MSA committees I must say this was gearing up to be flawless and got completely unnecessarily interfered with by the uncle in the end. That was such poor form and uncalled for. The chair of the debate interjected when he really should not have either and when you invite speakers of such magnitude and who are known for being dynamic, what do you expect? I don't know why I was so bothered by this I am posting a comment. I just make duah Allah can help us all control our ego and respect renowned scholars who have dedicated decades to learning this religion.
Unapologetically Muslim 💪☝️❤
Proud to be Muslim... Alhamdulillah !!!
اَلحَمْدُلِله
@jrgenstorm6536 I smell something burning ....
Oh it's your heart !!
@jrgenstorm6536Why do you care ?
Haha, don't you believe in gay love an peace Hahaha
💯💪 ☝️✊🌹
@AhmadTamimi257
Not just his heart is burning brother, it is his ass as well
As a South African I'm quite disappointed with the extremely poor organisation of this discussion. How could they not book the room for longer than the expected time the debate was intended to run for? Additionally there were several disturbances and the chair kept talking at length instead of timekeeping.
Bro I was so confused as to why he was talking for so long.
absolutely. They fly these gentlemen over from wherever country in the world and literally only have 2 hours for a debate between 4 intellectuals? What a joke and disappointment.
Exactly there were abig let down, 3 hours minimum
@@RessanLawit’s not even 2 hours it’s been majority interrupting and the guy with the long hair on the panel barely even talked
Yea and him going "uhhh" for 2 seconds before every sentence was so annoying and time wasting.
جزاك اللّه خيرا
mashallah, allahumma barek. I started laughing so hard as soon as mohammeds opening started, clear winner mindset keep doing you thing
A bit disappointed honestly. I am an engineer/computer scientist, and have been practicing Islam for nearly 10 years now. I am not philosophically trained, nor religiously trained, and my knowledge is primarily from TH-cam lectures and/or books. Despite that, I could find so many problematic and inconsistent statements with the atheists' positions. I expected more, I wanted to be challenged.
Indeed, if we build walls of intellectualism upon foundations of truth, these walls would be unshakably and firmly grounded on all fronts. And walls of intellectualism built upon falsehood will always end in collapse. Alhamdulillah for Islam.
The challenge is knowing that the opposition to the truth always have the same mechanical behaviour. It is just like reciting quran getting to the ayah of satan telling his feelings, or hearing about the wrong doers, then come the next week or the next month or the next year (depending upon how much time it takes to complete reading the quran) and hearing the same phrase of satan telling us his feelings or hearing about the wrong doers. So much so it becomes like periods of the moon or heavenly bodies. The deniers arguments being so predictable.
Scientist of engineering in chemicals of materials here.
Same. What we saw here was a respectful display from atheists, which is uncommon from past debates like with krauss, aron ra or wood, and that is why atheists struggle. It s because when the atheist doesnt play semantics or attack with ad homs, his position becomes painfully obviously as an emotional dogmatist..
Here to say that I am sorry you thought that atheism was suppose to be a challenge. There is no challenge to Islam. Only a challenge to muslims. Holdfast and Alhadmullilah!
@@lovelylittlemuur indeed, Alhamdulillah!
@@ummerfarooq5383That’s very well put.
For those who are sure in their faith, the deniers arguments are like wails that come routinely like periodic chore.
The one thing I really love about Hijab is his constant return to the Quran. He is a gem, mashallah.
I love how he also clarifies that they strawman and or lie on their sources of Islam like in regards to that slavery topic
Menstruation topic*
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt.
Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
@@syedbaqir2687 🤡
@@syedbaqir2687Do not argue and fighting with each other. We are muslims. Any differences between us, just come back to Quran, sunnah and Hadith of Prophet Muhammad. Period.
Thank you so much for uploading this entire debate in 1080p!
Downloaded it & will turn it into clips to share with people
its going to be great
you uncivilised big baby
womp womp cry about it 😂🤡
1:06:48 I LOVED that little back handed slap there!!
Absolutely genius ❤️
Mashallah brother.
4 years now since i converted to Islam, alhamdullilah! Thank you for everything you do Mr.Hijab. I love watching your videos!
What a fool you are!
Masha Allah,bro. welcome to the family
@@salahuddeenayyubi9515 Brother, I know you mean well, but welcome isn't the correct word.
@@AbdulAli786o why?
@@salahuddeenayyubi9515 He's been a revert for 4 years, I'm sure he's well acquainted with Islam. So welcome wouldn't be correct, but rather Ma Sha Allah
I was born Muslim and now I am a Muslim Alhamdulillah :)
Say "I was a Muslim by chance, now I am a Muslim by choice.
@@mohammedkhan1038 ....why follow Mohammed...he was poisoned like dog and died in pain..and his false god did not help him
No one is born Muslim. Your parents force-fed you their fairy-tale beliefs.
@@mohammedkhan10387 out of 10 new converts leave Islam within the first year as per PEW research centre
Your are the best brother Mohammed Hajib
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🎙️ Introduction to the Discussion
09:15 🤔 Defining Rationality and Overview
11:08 🕊️ Arguments for Atheism
16:59 🤨 Arguments for Atheism (continued)
24:05 🧐 Conclusion of Arguments for Atheism
24:22 🤖 Beginning of the discussion on the existence of God.
29:07 🛡️ Discussing the uniqueness of one God.
32:23 💼 Introducing evidence for the truth of Islam.
39:47 ⚖️ Shifting to the discussion of morality and secular ethics.
48:12 📜 Comparing secular ethics to religious morality.
49:49 🕌 Addressing the issue of apostasy in Sharia law.
50:03 📜 Discussion on Controversial Religious Views
58:23 🧐 Arguments for God's Existence and Responses to Atheism
01:02:07 🤯 Argument from Cognitive Information
01:11:59 🤖 Grounding Morality in Transcendent Agent
01:13:49 🧐 Critique of Atheism's Philosophical Underpinnings
01:16:00 📚 Open Discussion on Morality and Worldviews
01:24:04 🤯 Challenges to Secular Ethics and Ethical Relativism
01:27:14 🔎 Assessing the Universality of Moral Frameworks
01:31:26 🤝 Panel Discussion Introduction
01:35:12 🧐 Examining the Notion of Actual Infinities
01:38:00 🧠 Philosophical Grounding for Objective Morality
01:51:29 🧠 The discussion addresses the instrumental value of suffering and the distinction between psychological and ethical aspects of pain.
01:52:11 🧐 Examining the concept of "objective" and its relevance to grounding moral values in naturalism.
01:53:06 🤔 Discussing the compatibility of naturalism with the concept of divine attributes and non-physical features.
01:54:17 🗣 Addressing interruptions and disagreements within the discussion, emphasizing the importance of respect and civility.
01:55:03 🙏 Reflecting on the intention and atmosphere of the conversation, discussing the role of academics, and addressing the perception of bias.
01:57:11 🧐 Analyzing the philosophical arguments related to the existence of evil and divine wisdom.
01:58:58 🤯 Exploring theological perspectives on the existence of evil and divine wisdom, considering privation and Divine Command theory.
02:00:26 🤯 Expanding on the philosophical arguments related to God's attributes, goodness, and the absence of good.
02:03:14 📚 Reflecting on the ongoing philosophical discussion, referencing Islamic scholars' perspectives on the absence of good.
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- Acknowledgment of the importance of religious questions in human history and conflict.
- [09:15](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.html) 🤔 Defining Rationality and Overview
- Distinguishing between epistemic and pragmatic rationality.
- Focusing on epistemic rationality in the context of atheism vs. theism.
- Introduction to key terms: God, atheism, theism, naturalism, and supernaturalism.
- [11:08](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.html) 🕊 Arguments for Atheism
- Arguments against the existence of God being philosophically persuasive.
- Highlighting the absence of compelling evidence for God's existence.
- Introduction of the deductive argument from absence of evidence.
- [16:59](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.html) 🤨 Arguments for Atheism (continued)
- Presenting a family of arguments against theism, including logical incoherence and poor explanatory power.
- Focusing on the logical argument from evil by J.L Schellenberg.
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- Exploring explanations for the universe's existence, including the concept of a necessary being.
- Differentiating between finite chains of dependence and infinite chains, highlighting the absurdity of an infinite chain of dependencies.
- Arguing for the existence of a necessary being to make sense of dependent things.
- [29:07](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.htmlm7s) 🛡 Discussing the uniqueness of one God.
- Explaining why there can only be one necessary being.
- Touching on Quranic arguments and verses that support the idea of one God.
- Emphasizing the idea of an overarching, singular will as a foundation for the universe's stability and regularity.
- [32:23](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.htmlm23s) 💼 Introducing evidence for the truth of Islam.
- Presenting the prophetic predictions made by the Prophet Muhammad, including geopolitical events and societal changes.
- Highlighting the accuracy and unambiguous nature of these predictions as evidence for Islam's validity.
- [39:47](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.htmlm47s) ⚖ Shifting to the discussion of morality and secular ethics.
- Defining the criteria for a good moral theory, including coherence, consistency, and universality.
- Presenting two secular approaches to morality: one grounded in the avoidance of suffering and the other based on rationality and universal laws.
- [48:12](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.htmlm12s) 📜 Comparing secular ethics to religious morality.
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- Discussing the potential challenges of adhering to immutable religious texts in a changing world.
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- [50:03](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.html) 📜 Discussion on Controversial Religious Views
- Discussion about controversial religious views.
- Ayatollah Khomeini's fatwa against Salman Rushdie.
- Debate on the morality of punishing apostates.
- Controversy surrounding depictions of the Prophet Muhammad.
- Examination of Quranic verses related to non-believers and their punishments.
- [58:23](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.html) 🧐 Arguments for God's Existence and Responses to Atheism
- Presentation of an argument challenging naturalism.
- Refutation of the problem of evil argument.
- Discussion on the arbitrariness of God's commands.
- Introduction of the "quranic argument of Prior cognitive information."
- Examination of the necessity of prior cognitive information for human judgment and thoughts.
- [01:02:07](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.html) 🤯 Argument from Cognitive Information
- Presentation of an argument for the existence of God based on cognitive information.
- Explanation of why human beings require prior cognitive information for judgments.
- Examination of potential sources of prior cognitive information and their inadequacies.
- Discussion on the limitations of naturalistic explanations.
- Conclusion that a non-natural agent best explains prior cognitive information.
- [01:11:59](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.html) 🤖 Grounding Morality in Transcendent Agent
- Morality must be grounded in a non-natural Transcendent agent.
- The agent should be living, willing, transcendent, and omniscient to explain morality.
- Atheism fails to provide a rational basis for morality.
- [01:13:49](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.html) 🧐 Critique of Atheism's Philosophical Underpinnings
- Atheism as a form of philosophical naturalism, scientism, and post-modernism.
- Atheism struggles to explain the foundation of rationality, truth, and morality.
- It lacks an objective basis for morality and cognition.
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- Critique of secular ethical frameworks.
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- The role of cultural and historical context in shaping moral philosophies.
- Exploring the concept of rights within different ethical systems.
- [01:31:26](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.html) 🤝 Panel Discussion Introduction
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- Differentiating between qualitative and quantitative infinities.
- Discussing the applicability of actual infinities to God's attributes.
- [01:38:00](th-cam.com/video/1pLtjuPg-Ac/w-d-xo.html) 🧠 Philosophical Grounding for Objective Morality
- Exploring the philosophical basis for objective morality.
- Linking suffering, axiological values, and moral reasons.
- Discussing the concept of rights in relation to vital interests and suffering.
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The university host guys were very disruptive. I don't understand why they acted as if they had authority over the debaters arguments
The host in the middle started presenting his own point of view and took 5 mints what he thinks but couldn't conclude 🤣🤣🤣
Because they are anti muslim hindus
@@truth80855 minutes until hijab interrupted him. God knows how long he would have gone on for. He was clout chasing of hijabs name and tried to include himself in the debate.
Do not confuse a Muslim’s need to be humble with their right to fight back when required. Our Prophet (SAW) was the kindest and most humble human to ever exist, but he also went to war to protect the ummah. Both can exist at the same time. Well done brother Hijab! ❤
Hijab was unnecessarily boisterous and interruptive in this one. He needed to talk far less.
@@jodolski if you’re focusing on that rather than the content of what he said and the arguments he put across that the atheists didn’t even have a proper answer for, then you’re looking at this the wrong way and maybe not mature enough to see the bigger picture
@@specter1019 I’m not dismissing the merits of the Muslim arguments. They were solid. The atheists didn’t have a chance to respond. Debates like these don’t deserve to be confined to 2 hour sessions to be honest. It would’ve been better to focus on a single question / subject area and expand on that for hours instead of asking 4 or 6 different questions that acted as offshoots to a pretty general question.
@@jodolski i agree with you on that completely.
@@jodolskiunderstand that people have different personalities and he doesn’t have to fit your pacific style and personality just because you feel uncomfortable with some heat in a normal yet critical discussion. Bro, stop talking like women, when they have no ground to respond on, they attack the way a person speaks, it’s a very known tactic among lawyers. It is said, if you don’t have an argument, play the man!
Hijab was appropriate considering the context, enough with this passive approach that you grow up with because you are afraid to be accused of being aggressive and extremist nonsense.
amazing debate.. please try to have a better sound recording in future.
Jazak Allah brother hijab and hamza, once again the truth crushes falsehood.
Wow, the chair and board were so patronising in their approach ! Just as the debate was improving they cut off Tzortzis and Hijab
Bunch of clowns.
The panel guys said “uh ehm eh” 50% of the time. Thanks to Hijab for shutting him down.
Very intelligent brother Mohammed and Hamza like always.
Can you put this video with Arabic translation in your other Arabic channel this full video ??
That Oppenheimer got shut down hard 😂 Tried his best to attack Islam instead of responding to the arguments, utter failure.
He failed hard
He didnt recover anymore
@crusader7356you’re very delusional. these people are nothing compared to hijab. he’s highly educated on the topics he discusses, cant be say about his opponents.
jp one was not a debate but a discussion.
@crusader7356 Don't be desperate boy. You typing comment saying he lost all debates doesn't make it true objectively. Come out of your delusional and watch his debate with open and rational mind but of course, what can we expect from people who cannot even rationally think that it is impossible for something to come out of nothing. He won all the debates but only an openminded person can see that not a sheep like you follows the rules and customs of the West. If you are told that a man can become a woman and vice versa, a boy can identify himself a dog or any other thing, eating meeting is wrong, homosexuality is right, you just believe it blindly without even thinking with your own mind. If a person doesn't want to see the truth, you can't force him to see it.
@crusader7356 ah yes the audience, who most of them clapped in applause and belief towards what mohammad hijab was saying, was on the opposing side, who had 2 people applause at one point, 2.
If anyone thinks that because you are a muslim, you have to be subordinate and humble in all times and situations, you are simply wrong. Well done brother Hijab!
Who said Muslims are humble…haha…
@@mumbaiatheist2384me
@@mumbaiatheist2384sit back down athiest.
You do have to always be humble as a Muslim, remember you can bring people to Islam with just your akhlaq alone.
@@yushaibnegwa9756 exactly and from hijabs conduct alone i dont think any non muslim will be delving deeper into islam because of him regardless of how sound his arguments may be
In fact, most people do not believe in religion to avoid responsibility. Because they are afraid of not living the life they want. Why should they believe in a religion that prohibits alcohol, pork, gambling, premarital sex, eating interest, commands giving alms to the poor, and commands prayer 5 times a day?
This was very interesting. I lost the thread at the end though. Around 2:05:00 they discuss "There is nothing in creation better than what is." and how Islamic scholars discussed about its meaning for long time, and one of them wrote a book about it. Then the black suit guy asked what was the answer that was given, and blue suit guy looked like segmentation fault, several in the audience laughed, the guy with yellow hoodie facepalmed, the guy off-screen said let's move on, and the gray suit guy did. What happened there?
Now I’ve seen it all… moderators interrupting a debate to then interject their own views and opinions instead of letting the panelists argue their points🤦🏻♂️
Right? I was like what the hell . Why is he interfering and interjecting and saying “I think” 😅what a weird way to moderate
Its literally a discussion and not a debate. I think the moderator mentioned that at the start itself.
@@mitefum6310 Yes, a discussion between the panelists, not between the panelists and the moderators.
Really strange behavior from the moderators. Especially the Muslim brother who accused them of having egos
i think they was frustrated that they organised a debate agaisnt the muslim brothers and did bring the best of the best and still the brothers handled that very easly, they made a trap that didnt work at all 😂
The moderators were way too biased in this debate .. Props to Hamaz and Muhammad Hijab for not letting them push them around
Mash allah!! May Allah bless you my dear sisters and brother's.good job!!
I become muslim and I started reading Bhagvat Gita and now I am a hard-core muslim.
You had me for a second there
the gita is actually disgusting to read
I was atheist. Saw many Christian and Muslim debates and I am now A HARDCORE ATHEIST 😂
@@harryd8010you're well hard aren't you 🤡🤡
@@harryd8010harry we all saw your irrational and ad ridicule comments, nothing not expected buddy
The moderators were quite unfair but Muhammad hijab still came on top !!! Well done!!!!!
I was a Hindu and today I became a Muslim.
*was
you were a pagan fire worshipper hindu and now you're a Muslim pure clean and upright on the path of
LA HAWLA WALAH QUWATA ILLAH BILLAH AND
LA ILLAH HA ILLILLAH MUHAMMAD PBUH RASOOL ALLAH ❤❤❤☝️☝️☝️
@@SRNK...2127
Final nabi Final nabi majhab is falz,
Useless irrelevant
May Allah keep you steadfast in deen and reward you in this world and next. Ameen
Alhamdulillah I'm so happy for you ❤❤
Congratulations brother may Allah grant you the highest level in Janna Ameen and also bless your family as well ❤
نتمنى من القائمين على المناظرة ترجمتها بشكل كامل للعربية هناك جزء واحد منها فقط مترجم و نحن بنتظار الجزء الثاني
Respect to Hijab for not letting their attempts at silencing him stop him.
These athiests need to speak with their chest and argue the points, instead of crying about being scared and “uncomfortable” about Hijab’s tone of voice lol. They should expect different personalities and styles of debating.
And also, the panellist moderators were absolutely unprofessional and rude. What a joke.
Agreed
Absolutely spot on
But this wasn't a debate, it was supposed to be a discussion...
@@kamranabbasi6757yes but regardless some people have a more assertive and authoritative personality, this is how Hijab is and always has been, if you are a grown up you should have no issue accepting this rather than being intimidated by it
Does he always have to be theatrical and dramatic with warrior pose?
As a South African academic I'm embarrassed.. As a Muslim this strengthened my faith in Allah and islam
Academic 🤣😂🤣
small things amuses small minds@@talentfinder575
@@talentfinder575Yes, academic is a word. You can look it up in the dictionary if you don't know its meaning.
@@HH_1988 I didn't bother responding to that but thank you..
@talentfinder575 don't you know what academic means? Is the word itself funny sounding to you ?
Go forth our warriors in defending Islam and spreading the TRUTH, Islam. اللهم أحفظهم من كل شر❤
May Allah preserve you, proud of Muhammad Hijab Masha Allah :D
Man I like hijabs approach we don't need anymore apologetic approaches to defend what's right
Also the panel people are literally babies
Spot on this is exactly why they can't handle him. The Western intellectuals have been acting arrogantly and unchallenged for far too long things are about to change.
Christian are wiping Muslim all through out
Berani kerana benar,takut kerana salah
I love M Hijab , I love the fact he doesn’t let anyone intimidate him , they tried it . Well done brother
Our brothers in Islam Alhamdulillah diffending our Faith.
Muhammad Hijab is very talented! Subhanallah, Alhamdulillah, Allah has blessed him with a remarkably retentive memory. I've watched many of his debates, and most of the time, he speaks without referring to a paper or any device. What a blessing to the ummah!
I have a question, MH. How do you remember so much accurately while speaking quickly and articulately?
What I don’t understand is these kind of talks/debates can not be discussed in the time frame they allocate. Why is it done with more time?
I am a Muslim (Bengali Canadian) and I once was steering towards atheism in my early 20s during my Bachelors'. Today, I am a proud Muslim and Brother Hijab and Brother Tzortzis are strongly responsible for rectifying my Aqeedah (creed). Thank you brothers! Fine work as always!
Hijab you show poor manners. Remember the learned used to learn manners before they learned knowledge. A lot of knowledge is ruined by poor manners. Whereas a small amount of knowledge is beautified by good manners
@@jjohn408 Why shouldn't he be enraged being treated like a child when he is clearly more qualified than all of the panel. Just because he has an 'assertive' voice (he himself mentioned after being disrupted many times throughout), what gives white men the right to shut him up? This is how Africans discuss, the voice is loud. Be 'inclusive'. Why do we always have to conform to white men standards of discussion?
@@jjohn408 Sometimes, righteous anger (indignance) is a virtue. This was one of those times. Speak out for your rights to speak. He did it in a well-mannered tone given the rudeness of the panel/speakers.
@@jjohn408 also, these two white men as usual attacked Islamic sharia law calling it barbaric essentially and also misrepresenting it. Typical white savior/white man's burden mentality. They committed the most racist and heinous and genocidal crimes the past few centuries and they wanna lecture us?! Get outta here!
@@chtadow13 Yes drag queen story hours is forcing homosexuality upon kids, which is conditioning them into a belief that having dingy dingy with adult pdf file atheists is normal.
This is why atheists and muslims agree so much on so many thing, because mupedohammad was pdf file too *sunan abi dawud 2121*
*_Remember:_*_ The international apostacy day for muslims is on 22nd of August_
The point we should all learn from Hijab is : Never let anyone intimidate you no matter what or where ‼️
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt.
Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
Please my brother, do not backbite about the sahabas when you were not called to do it. @@syedbaqir2687
@@syedbaqir2687 liar, Allah made al-Quran to be understand for everyone. lying p o s
@@syedbaqir2687no room for shia stuff.
@@Mohamed_lemin_alyaqoubi Why are you scared. You people always used to say dont debate with shias LMAO HAHAHA because everything will break down.
Do you want to talk? I *CHALLANGE* you bring me ONE hadith about abu bakr caliphate. There is *NONE* . I have several for Imam Ali (AS)
M Hijab my childhood friend. So proud of your brother. He was an intellectual guy and took over our politics class with his smartness, Mashallah
Alhamdulillah
Really 😍🥰😍😍
Proud to have friend like hijab bhaiya ( elder brother)
I am from India
17 yrs old going to be 18 yrs old
Was he always like that :D?
@@dadush4 you got to practice when you're young
تو كون هو؟
I always watch your full videos. But audio quality of this video is not good as others. Please make sure about your audio quality next time . Love from Bangladesh ❤
There is a sound issue. Can a better version be updated.
Hijab was smirking at the start and then got angry. 😂 He can never do wrong in my eyes. He is such a credit to the ummah. Allah Hu Akbar.
Never
im watching for his reactions lool >.
Wrong or good is basically on people's feelings nothing else
@@thewesternworld9695wrong or right depends upon harm or happiness…and it is decided by human beings and not any imaginary god…
@@mumbaiatheist2384 feelings dictate everything people's lives nothing but harmful or good behaviour don't exist in humanity lifetime
This is not only exciting but it’s truly monumental. A first of its kind. Thank you MH and HT. Hopefully, there are many more debates like this from now on. Takbeer!!!
اللہ اکبر
ALLAH AKBAR
Allahu Akbar
Allaahu Akbar
Allahu Akbar
How is one able to attend or be informed in advance about this kinds if debates. I would like to attend personally.
Excellent discussion. Thank you. And bless you for your advocacy for Palestine.
I respect the confidence of the brothers. They know they are in the right and they aren't afraid to make it crystal clear that they're not here to be lectured with no evidence.
Alhamdulilah to be shia muslim as Prophet advised sahabas at ghadeer and hadith of Saqalain that Quran goes hand in hand with ahlul bayt. In order to understand Quran we need ahlul bayt.
Unfortunately many hypocrits hidden as sahabas tried to stopped them with their cruelty and brutality.
@@syedbaqir2687 Quran says to follow muhajireen and Ansar. Who are the muhajireen?
You cannot find Shi'ism in the quran. But you can find the way of ahl al sunna wal jamaa
@@syedbaqir2687 No. In order to understand Qur'an you need Arabic.
@@fomfom843090% of non Arab Muslims themselves don’t understand Arabic…haha
I think MH got heated because the atheists kept missing the points of the questions the muslims were putting forward and then the atheists make a sly comment about some Islamic legal concept they deem as wrong. 1. They fail to answer questions. 2. They make false comments about Islam. 3. They tell MH to calm down when he raises his voice. This discussion was an awkward mess especially with the weird hosts' interjections and passive aggressiveness.
They also came into the discussion of morality with the belief that their view is correct, which infuriated Hijab since he was asking why they thought that.
Notice how they didn’t respond to why they think their morality should be the only way for everyone.
1. presentation/introduction panel peoples were very unprofessional shuttering and lacking and interrupt in very important moment 2x.
2. mark oppenheimer start to gives examples from the Quran about morality Which they don't know what they are talking about, they don't even study the Classic Arabic so they don't know classic Arabic. all of this things the mark has been mentioned or talk about from the Quran about morality those things has been dealt with so many time and answered, some claims he made are not from the Quran, some of them are just blunt lies that has been made up by islamophobs long long time ago. it just shows his (mark) lack of research about this topic before came into panel.
3. after that Muhammad Hijab got angry. he never should get angry or triggered by this people also I want to say to Mark that he never should talk about those things he doesn't know/researched completely or fully about those topic.
4. I also believe Hamza also get trigger or angry after mark speech. and later Hamza and Hijab made little bit of fun or bully the Atheist panel. which I don't support also I don't support mark it just shows his lack of research about this topic before came into panel.
5. this discussion was not about morality it was about the existence of god true or false.
6. my discussion rating over all 7.5/10
the question remained unanswered
The point MH was making was simple and they knew they were stuck. As an atheist you have no basis of morality, so when you choose to make an assessment on it, you have to at least show were your basis is. MH was saying..since you won't make it clear, your statement seems to be based off a system that is infallible and morally proven to cause more damage in the lifespan of it's activity. Where as we (Muslims) have had a guide on moral truths from creation, and then reaffirmed through our final prophet. How dare he then pass judgement from a vacuum or even a currpt system while then hiding your hands saying he wasn't there to tell where his actual source of morality stemmed from
True
can I get all the references of Hadiths that you had quoted in this podcast? JazakALLAH Kher
I'm agnostic (at least in conventional terms), but enjoy listening to you and have gained a great appreciation for your debate skills.
Alhamdulillah for the blessing of islam. The amount of people reverting is heartwarming ❤
Dont waste another moment then. Declare your faith and step into the best of your life
Islam is the ultimate truth, God is verily truth, nothing else can explain our existence
If it’s the calling you feel, then accept you must.
Inshaallah soon
May Allah bless you and give hidayat
brother get started.... towards the ultimate truth..... never miss the chance thanks
I'm from SA and I'm ashamed at how this discussion was handled by the guy in blue! Why should we be submissive when they make false claims. I have the greatest of respect for both M. Hijab and Tzortis. May Allah bless you and keep you steadfast on this path. Allahu Akbr
wow the chair was so unprofessional and unorganised, could get even set a time for q/a. also the beeping noise so they had fix that issue and waste time. then they started to blame the 4 people because they did not get time for q/a. its not they fault its chair for not organising it properly
@@lokidedbeat1878 Imagine trying to blame the panelist’s when they couldn’t get the debate in order. What a bunch of clowns. SA I’m disappointed. If I was MH or Hamza I would decline any further invitations from them.
UJ embarrassed us properly Infront of academic giants
And what was up with the chairman and his erm erm erm and fancy hands? Also the uncle next to him coming out at the last moment to throw his toys out of the cot😂 As a former UJ student, this was totally embarrassing. Not mentioning the weak atheist arguments. Come on you're going up against 2 giants, is this the best UJ could put forward? Mohammed and Hamza are true legends. Alhamdulillah ALLAH PAK bless you for all the work you do and the many whome you inspire.
@lokidedbeat1878 the chair was great , if it was not it will give these to muslims free range for spewing their hatred towards these two guys.
The so called "academic" in Blue doesn't even know what is in the hearts of the 4 debaters yet he came to such a conclusion 😮
Yall don't get Hijab 😅 he cares about you that much to get that passionate or hype in today's terms.. much love and appreciation for a such a rich conversation.
WHEN IT COMES TO ARGUE AS A UNMATCHED ORATOR, No ONE COULD BEAT Sheikh MUHAMMAD HIJAB 😍
Hes not a sheikh as far as Ik
In sha Allah he will be
Dont give titles others dont have
He's an arrogant @$$hole. You dont debate these people, you ignore them
*What is meant by heaven and hell?*
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
As a matter of fact, Paradise is not a word that refers only to trees, fruits, food, drink, hoor al-‘een, rivers and palaces.👉 *Most people are mistaken when they think that Paradise is limited to that, for Paradise is a name for the abode of perfect and absolute bliss, and one of the greatest joys of Paradise will be the pleasure of gazing upon the noble Countenance of Allah and hearing His words, and the delight of being close to Him and attaining His pleasure. There can be no comparison between the physical pleasures in Paradise - such as food, drink, clothing and images - and that pleasure.Attaining the least divine pleasure is greater than Paradise and all that it contains,* as Allah, may He be exalted, says 👉 (interpretation of the meaning): *“But the good pleasure of Allah is greater still” [at-Tawbah 9:72].* In other words, no matter the extent to which Allah is pleased with His slave, even if it is small, *it is still greater than Paradise.*
In the *saheeh hadith* about seeing Allah, it says: *“… and Allah will not give them anything that is dearer to them than gazing upon His Countenance.”* According to another hadith: “When He, may He be glorified, manifests Himself to them and they see His Countenance with their own eyes, *they will forget all the bliss that they had been enjoying,* and will become oblivious to that joy and will pay no attention to it.”
Undoubtedly, this is how it is, And the matter is much greater than one could think or imagine, especially when the lovers there find themselves with the one whom they love, for a person will be with the one whom he loves. What bliss, delight, joy or triumph could come close to the joy, pleasure and tranquillity of being with Allah? Is there anything superior to the pleasure and joy of being close to the Beloved, for there is nothing greater than Him, or more perfect, or more beautiful, and nothing could give greater comfort and happiness?
This - by Allah - is the type of knowledge that the lovers are striving hard to attain, and is the banner around which all those who have knowledge of Allah rally. It is the most important thing in Paradise, through which Paradise becomes a place of joy, and the life of Paradise is based on that.
So how can it be said that one should not worship Allah for the sake of attaining Paradise or for fear of Hell?
👉 *Similarly, Hell* - may Allah protect us from it - is a place where its dwellers will suffer a great deal when they are partitioned away from Allah and suffer disgrace, divine wrath and anger, and being far away from Him. That will be worse than the flames of fire in their bodies and souls. In fact, the flames of this fire in their hearts is what led to the flames burning their bodies, for those flames spread everywhere in their bodies from their hearts.
The aspiration of the Prophets and Messengers, the siddeeqs (the strong and true in faith), the martyrs and the righteous is Paradise, and what they seek to flee from is Hell.
And Allah is the source of strength, and in Him we put our trust. There is no power and no strength except with Allah; Allah is sufficient for us, and He is the best disposer of affairs.
{Madaarij as-Saalikeen (2/80, 81)}
@@ryojs4286 a sheikh is one who has considerable academic status that he has 😍
@@Saddamkhan-qp8gz can someone confirm what this guy has said as truth?
I'm Muslim and have never doubted God, alhamdulillah! 😊
Those who can't think for themselves never do.
@@Theo_Skeptomai What do you know about thinking.
@mutirehman6292 Quite a bit. I am a retired Expeimental Pschology professor specializing in Cognitive Constructs, Perception, and Learning.
Did I answer your question DIRECTLY? Yes or no.
@@Theo_Skeptomai actually no
@@Theo_Skeptomai no really i am not joking.what I said was what do you no about his thinking you might be a professor great for you but no matter how much of a greater thinker you are how could you talk about someone else thinking like that.
BTW no hard feelings.
Plus i think you are probably joking about the professor thing
Could someone explain hijab's argument from his opening speech at the beginning? He said that an infinite chain of dependant things is an absurd proposition. The reason being, because if this was actualized in an actual world through an infinite amount of multi verses, that would imply that the inexhaustable has been exhausted.
What exactly is he referring to when he means the inexhaustable and in what sense has it been exhausted? This example for why an inifinite chain is an absurd proposition is not quite clear to me. Would be really greatful if someone understood this and could help me out.
2nd time watching the debate, IM DEAD WITH THE MODERATOR TRYNA JUMP INTO THE DISCUSSION LMAOOOO
I was introduced to Islam 24 years ago and while I may not practice Islam whole-heartedly, I believe that the Qur’an is the true authentic message from God.
brother, if you believe that it is the authentic message, shouldn’t the fear lead you to attempt to be a practicing muslim. wish all the best on you bro
Have you said your shahada?
Even if your not practicing, you can still be Muslim
Take it one day at a time, each day you're a different muslim and judge what you do on that day and seek forgiveness for what has passed and yet to come. Allah is the most merciful.
Aslong as what the other comments have said. Take your Shahada. Now you don't have to be a "full time" Muslim. Just refrain from major sin and within time you would naturally adjust, Allah never said to go from 0 to 100, that's one reason he's the most Merciful. Now don't take it the wrong way, it dosent mean you can play the game
May God's mercy be upon you. Alhamdullillah
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