@@jet_lea So the fatal flaw is you're not keen on the display?. The term fatal means causing death or something leading to failure. So yes it's clickbait.
@@jet_lea It is a bit dated. You can replace it with that aftermarket one I think. Personally, I use the slicer to do everything except loading and unloading filament. Occasionally to turn the light on, or move the bed or hotend up and down when I'm changing nozzles or something. BUT 90% of the time it's on my PC or 10% phone.
This review is spot on. It's a great printer, but if you only print in PLA, PETG and TPU, the A1 is the printer to get. I have three A1s and a mini and they've been amazing for me. That said, if bambu releases a new P series printer with the features of the A series (screen, dynamic flow calibration, quick swap nozzles, etc.), I'm grabbing a couple for sure. Thanks for posting!
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm I guess a bit lol Realistically, having multiple printers has been a huge improvement to workflow. I do all my prototyping on my mini; my three A1s are my production printers. With multiple printers I can have multiple print jobs going at once, or have quicker production on projects with multiple plates. Definitely a luxury, but a nice one to have. 🍻
@@NWGR sounds like you got a nice business going. I’m working on making a business too. 3d modeling some 1/12 scale miniatures for diorama makers. I got a few prototypes to turn into products. I’m going to design some packaging too. I got an ebay now but I’ll probably be better off opening an etsy store for this stuff. Just looking to make enough to keep from starving.
@@TheFutureLooksGrimmYou might wanna change that username to a more optimistic one to "keep from starving".. though 3D printing is an interesting thing to get into for that reason.
I replaced my Ender 3 V2 with the A1 Mini. Can't wait to get a printer that I don't have to spend 2 hours just to get the printer started correctly. Thank you for all of your videos to help me make my choice for my next printer.
I am also coming from an E3V2. Not only did my bed warp, but so did the glass build plate. Got tired of screwing with it. I wanted my hobby to be printing, not the printer. Although I do like what to can do with open sourced machines and all the mods, but I got to get the printer working to even print the mods.
@@plugwithapug Yeah, it started to get very annoying constantly having to fix something new. I had my E3V2 fully modded and it really didn't even seem that the auto bed leveling was doing anything. I would do its clicking on the build plate and then it would just print as if it didn't even have and auto leveler. Too confusing!!!
Bambu's service is great. They really help you and quickly send you replacements if needed. Sometimes they even do that for free as a courtesy, even thought certain parts are not covered by warranty (it happened to me). Their replies usually take a day or even two and usually you don't get more that 2 replies per day. But overall, it's a good experience and, most importantly, it makes you feel safe.
Very good video. I have a suggestion for a future video topic: fumes and noise when 3D printing. And, ventilation, health etc. Address these concerns that people may have. Also, safety such as when the filament gets stuck on the reel and the motors are tugging on the cable etc.
Thank you for your suggestion! Addressing fumes, noise, and safety in 3D printing is super important, and I’ll definitely consider making a video on that topic.
You can really tell the A1 is a more recent machine. A next gen P1 that incorporates the A1's improvements and a bigger build plate (plus an AMS that supports TPU!) is my dream printer.
@@jet_lea I eagerly await the introduction of a 350mm^3 corexy from Bambu. I will retire my K1 Max and SV08 when that happens. I don't know about TPU in an AMS though. It's the old pushing a rope conundrum. I think the Prusa XLs solution (multiple extruders) is the right one for TPU.
Loving the content. Recently got a P1S myself as an upgrade from an Ender V Pro I have been running for a couple of years. Major appeal was keeping the hair of my dog and two cats out of my print area :)
I need to pick one up just to see how it bridges between my A1 and X1C but I've got a Neptune coming later this week or early next week to play with first.
I have the X1C too and wanted an A1 combo mostly just to learn it (and get the full 256 cubed volume) but what gave me the most pause was the open air AMS lite, but like Jet L did, there's a lot of mods to enclose it, did you enclose yours or find it needs it?
I have an X1C and was considering getting an A1 (or mini) or a P1S as a 2nd. Right now I'm honestly waiting for BBL to announce the next flagship and will decide then
I had a dilema between an A1 mini vs a PS1 as my first printer. Went with the PS1 as i already had parts to print in ABS but mainly having an enclosed printer instead of an open bedslinger seemed safer when you have little kids... didnt stop my daughter 'feeding' the PS1 grated cheese while printing (pla with door open) because "its hungry" 😂
But it will not be a P1S pro ... It will likely be a bigger new flagship replacing the X1C / X1E as the top of the range. I think it might be a toolchanger, attacking the Prusa XL. So far almost everything Bambu did was attacking part of the Prusa market. X1(C) was still a quite broad attack on the total market and the P1 was going for the cheaper end of the market beating Prusa with support and multi-material. The A1 mini was clearly targeting the Prusa mini market and the A1 was convincing the few people still thinking the Prusa Mk-something would be better. But by then Prusa had the XL, so what would the next target be?
great video and excellent info, I just added an A1 mini to my collection (p1s, s1pro, e3v2) its going to be interesting to see the comparisons first hand.
Could you do a measurement test of decibel levels between the P1S and A1 mini? Really curious about that since I was just about to purchase the P1S however the "Boeing 737 fan noise" comment in the video put me on the fence again. 😅
Bambu studio slicer apps advanced mode in my opinion is insanely limiting. There are hundreds of settings cura has that they dont and even when they forked from Prusa slicer they removed a bunch so people wouldnt mess up their prints. They have maybe 40 settings compared to Prusas like 200 and curas like 600. I feel extremely limited in their slicer but I use it just so I can use the WiFi upload. You dont need to really change anything in their settings really if you just want a good print. That being said, if you want more strength or flowrate, all they really allow is more walls, ceilings, and floors.
@@jet_lea 90% of the difficult stuff is taken away for accessibility. They also organize things well into tabs. You dont really learn these unless you have very unique issues (which you dont tend to have often on their printers). Also, the P1S is specifically aimed at print farms, while the X1C and X1E are mainly for engineering. Because they are aimed at print farms, the machine is made to be ran through the slicer since you have to run the slicer to get your model anyway. That being said, I do think your argument is valid on the screen. Big tree tech does sell an upgrade for 70$ on amazon if you want it.
Have a look at orca slicer. it's got the best of bambu and prusa slicer combined and still lets you control your bambu printers. I havn't played with cura recently so don't know how it compares.
I am thinking of getting a Bambu A1, I would like to make small clips for my photography gear or other projects. How do i decide on the type of filament that would have some flex and have a smooth finish. Can ABS be used in the A1 if it is needed? Thanks for sharing your thoughts in this video. Greg
Abs is not supported by the a1. I’ve heard of people being able to print it using custom settings and other various methods but it’s not meant for that. Depending on what you’re looking for, petg is a pretty decent alternative to pla
Well you might regret it a little at first but then you will get used to it lol It is loud though I mean loud! It wirs it makes grinding and scraping sounds I’m still not sure how! I’m getting used to it but I got the P1S Combo. Definitely don’t get the P1S alone. In that case get the A1. Just remember the A series are as close to perfect as you can get but the P1S is not.
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm Your username along with the content of your comment doesn't give me much hope 😂 I was just about to buy the P1S combo and now having second thoughts, probably just settling for the A1 mini on its own.
@@YaNeK92 hah sorry to sound so negative. My name is Jason Grimm. I just kind of regret not getting the A1 which is as flawless a 3d printer as possible. The P1S is louder even with an enclosure, than the A1 series is without. If you get the A1 Combo you will not regret it.
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm "Jason Grimm" sounds like a name for a secret agent! That's awesome bro 😎 Yeah, I think I might have to settle for the A1 or the mini, however I really wanted to get something enclosed to have the dust protection etc., though I think the noise level might be more important for me especially as I'm just beginning to get into this hobby. A1 mini is currently on sale in my country for $379 AUD delivered. Not sure how that compares with the rest of the World or your location.
@@cong-organicHow is the noise level of the P1S? I've been considering to buy it, however wasn't sure it would be a good idea to keep it on my main desk in my studio where I work and do gaming. Thanks in advance!
I am a complete noob at 3d printing, I purchased a x1c 3 weeks ago and was printing within 1 hour of unboxing. Two annoyances, Needed to turn up my 2.4 Wi-Fi to be able to get a LAN only connection. Need to connect to cloud to get auto firmware updates. I have already designed stuff i need in FreeCAD and printed successfully. If you are on the verge... just buy one... you wont be disappointed. Stay away from cloud printing if you can as it is not private, use the LAN only functionality.
Cool vids dude! Thank you! Much info and no bs. Im looking into buying my first one, do you have affiliate link for Bambu lab?! Tell them your viewers will buy them thanks to your vids.
If you’re new to the 3Dp game then your opinion and being so bold about it means most nothing to me. Coming from Ender 3 days to where things are now. The P1S is amazing.
I agree that the P1 series screen sucks. Even the original Ender 3 had a better & larger screen. And the panda touch screen don't make it much better, only easy to deal with the AMS combo.
Also, I’ve had my two p1s for about 6 weeks now and I have never loaded the filament manually (or used the external spool lol) I too am not a fan of the screens, had my first ever clog yesterday (besides one partial clog on my a1 before). I spent about 10 hours and got EVERY error in the book before finally figuring out that the filament diameter was too big for the extruder. This was not a new spool and was fine for about 150+g worth of printing prior to this. Having to find my phone every 3 minutes to see what the newest error code meant was a pain. The A1 interface is a thousand times better. And I also love the AMS lite much much better than the original AMS units. I just wish it was enclosed. Going to set it up to feed from my s4 soon.
How come these things don’t connect by usb to the computer? That really suprised me no one mentions it. I have to use my cellular iPad Pro and iPhone as a hotspot to make it work.
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm you can use the SD card instead of WiFi/hotspot. But yeah you would think there would be a direct way to connect too. I’m unsure.
@jet_lea Big tree tech panda touch upgrade. That fixes your tough screen issue also big tree tech revo hotend high flow nozzel upgrade. So it looks your complaints aren't good ones so it gets a 10/10
I had an Anet A8 for 8 years and then motherboard died. I didn't want to get a new board and reprogram it - I decided to go the easy rout and and get a P1S. "Z-homing failed". "Z-homing failed". "Z-homing failed". "Z-homing failed". "Auto leveling Failed". "Z-homing failed". "Auto leveling Failed". Auto calibration finished without problems both times I ran it. I went through the troubleshooting guide twice and checked TH-cam. I can tell the printer to home the z-axis and it will do it, but as soon as I try to print I get errors. I had to assemble my Anet A8 myself and that included peeling off all the paper of the acrylic pieces (there were a lot of big and small pieces) that made up the frame. It took me less time to get my first print on the A8 than the P1S. I wish Bambu would respond to my support ticket.
@@jet_lea I mean tons of people like him unfortunately they are all newbie uneducated about the hobby but think they are a pro bec they modified a ender 3 kinda people. If imma listen to someone talk and talk trash about a printer id rather hear from someone who has designed and built they own printer so they have some knowledge of they are speaking about. The printer he is so called “building” now w
Wouldn’t even be a thing without all of his TH-camrs giving him help holding his hand through it all doing most the work and knowledge for him let’s be real lol
Wow lol I had the same exact reaction to the P1S! I had regrets. The think sounds like a garbage truck grinding and clunking, it poops and wacks things in the poop area. It’s not good at pooping. In looks like it’s going to ram the glass when it homes. It’s 60db LOUD!! Open the door and it’s 70db loud like a vacuum running! You kind of begin to get used to it. The AMS had some annoying issues where it sometimes rocks the spool jumping up and hitting the top. I was really regretting not getting an a1 combo instead but it slowly began to grow on me and in talking to people on redit this seems to be a normal reaction when you come from the virtually flawless A1 mini or A1. Those 2 have spoiled us they are so good!! But as I said it’s growing on me.
Great video I was trying to decide over a P1S or a A1 full size. My wife & I are new to 3D printing and I want a printer that is newbie friendly but good quality prints. We think we are going with the A1.
Your filament detection is in your AMS Lite. I have a P1S, P1P, two A1's with AMS Lite and a Mini. A1 is easily the recommendation for first printer, mostly because of price. If price were not an issue, I would recommend the P1S with AMS. Yes it's older and lacks some few convenience features that the A1 has, but against the backdrop of time, these things are minor. The P1S with AMS is NOT a mid-level to advanced printer at all. It has advanced capabilities, but overall is easier to use that the A1's because it doesn't suffer from some of the issues that the A1's have. For example, in 4,000 hours of printing, I have only changed out the hot end once, and that was to put in a hardened steel hot end for printing carbon fiber filament. The A1's occasionally clog the nozzle in such a way that using the clog poker won't work. I've been working on ways to recover those nozzles easily, but in the meantime it means putting in a new nozzle. We had one heat bed fail the day after the recall bed arrived as well. It worked out perfectly, but still the heat bed failed and not due to any issue related to the recall. It just stopped working without warning with no discernible cause. That was at about 1,500 hours. For background, the A1's are my wife's and she uses a lot of silks and glitters and multi-colors, so that is probably contributing to the flow issues, whereas I use primarily PETG, some PLA and other types, and rarely do multi-color prints. Depending on the print, the P series are 10-20% faster than the A series. Not enough to be bothered by. Also the core-xy is superior for printing tall prints without a lot of footprint, for example a print-in-place light saber. And of course the enclosure makes some materials easier to print. I have not had any problem with the noise since Bambu added noise cancellation. I work in a 12x12 home office and my printers are in here with me. They are not an issue. As for the screen, I know how to use it well enough, but I seldom do. I have the BTT screen as well, but rarely use it either. Everything is done through Bambu Studio. Handy I only use for cancelling an object on the plate. Same with the A1's and for my K1 Max and SV08 for that matter, although both of them have bigger touch screens. If filament changes weren't such a relative pain in the butt for those two, I wouldn't use the screens at all. Interesting video and I always learn something from hearing the stories of others. Thanks!
I love hearing your experience, it’s actually quite interesting because my nozzle experience has been the exact opposite. I’ve never had to change the nozzle on my a1 mini due to a clog however i’ve had an unfixable clog on my p1s with less than half the print time of my a1! Everyone’s experience is going to be different so it’s always interesting to hear from others :)
@@jet_lea Yes there's always a YMMV element to this, but interestingly, we had 3 of 3 A1's out of commission for a day recently because we ran out of print heads. I did some tinkering to try to recover some clogged ones. On one, I torched the hot end directly which resulted in it ejecting explosively from the heat sink. That was fun, but it didn't help with the clog. Then I heated my unclogger and that had some limited success but had to be done several times before the filament was far enough down that I could put the hot end back on the printer and heat it up properly. At that point we could push the filament out. I might try to create a process around that as I don't want to accidentally stab myself with a glowing hot unclogger. Of interest is the fact that the A1's typically print either multi-color, silks or tricolor filaments, which are probably responsible for the excessive clogs.
I got the P1S as my first printer. I chose that over the A1 because of the enclosure and where it’ll be I didn’t want to have to worry about drafts causing print issues or when the humidity is higher during the summer months. Also I preferred the potential with the AMS over the AMS Lite. I’ve had it for almost two months and have had very few issues. The setup was fairly quick and simple for me. I didn’t bother trying to print one of the pre-loaded files and did my first print in Bambu Studio. I agree the screen could have been better. I bought the Panda Touch for a better screen to use with the printer. BambuLab did come out with a series of short videos on the uses of Bambu Studio a few weeks ago. I’m a software engineer so most of the videos from others on Bambu Studio was fairly easy to follow and most of the items I’ve printed so far have been using the default configurations provided. I’ll be exploring more of the advanced features as I start getting into doing projects. All my printing so far has been either mods, tools or drawer organization. I also have the printer in my office so haven’t had noise issue when I’m on conference calls. My office is like a 9x12 size room and at the opposite end of room from my desk. I’ve been using mostly Bambu filament so the RFID has been nice where I haven’t had to tell the AMS what filament is in it. I do have to change the Filaments on the project files since the projects are done by others.
Thanks for your input! How loud truly is the noise level from the P1S? I'm really curious about that since I was just about to purchase the P1S however the "Boeing 737 fan noise" comment in the video put me on the fence again. 😅 I've got a smaller sized studio room with a large desk that I was planning to place it on the corner of, as I also do my work and some gaming there so wasn't sure if that'd be a good idea. Thanks in advance!
@@YaNeK92 I haven’t measured how loud it is but the noise is mainly from the cooling fans. If it’s going to be on the same desk in your studio where you’ll be doing stuff and gaming, it might be a little too loud.
@@YaNeK92 It’s 60db with door closed. Door open it’s 70db. I measured it while 2ft away. Another youtuber got the same results. It’s not just the fans. It makes all sorts of grinding noises, and at the poop chute it wacks a lever, rubs the hot end cleaner, when it homes it crashes into an edge which looks like it hit the glass door. It makes way more noises than just the fans. The AMS on it is loud too. It is too loud for a studio apt. Unless you really need to print ABS etc, get the A1 Combo and you will not regret it. I wish I’d gotten that instead.
Great video. I think that you put it well when you said this is an intermediate machine. I just upgraded to a P1S after using an ender 3 for 5 years. I absolutely love the P1S and after having it for 2 days ordered the AMS. I recognize that there is diminishing returns between this and the A1, but i think that for someone who wants to push a machine more, or use more temper-mental materials you cant beat the value of the P1s.
Like you I printed that AMS lite enclosure kit. I printed it in Sunlu Clear PLA. Only down side is it’s hard without opening enclosure to see how much filament is left.
But I will say it’s improved the quality of prints. It keeps humidity in the 10-20 range for several days which is saying a lot as normal humidity here in TN is in the 45% to as high as 80% during really humid days.
Yes, the lack of a way to see the filament is definitely a little bit of a hassle however like you said i think it's worth it for the better print quality
Great perspective, thank you!. I have an A1 Mini and a Prusa MK3S+, but considering replacing the Prusa with the P1S. Been looking at the $69 7”touchscreen add-on that BIGTREETECH is selling as a nice upgrade to the control panel.
I don’t thing the Panda touch screen is a good replacement for numerous reasons Jet will cover. You still can’t see what the print jobs are, it doesn’t have the nice screen graphics the A series or X1 has. Save your moneys and get the x1 Carbon Combo if you can afford it.
I have an XTouch, but honestly: the standard display is good enough for the few times you actually will be using it. Most things are anyway done via the app or slicer and for (un)loading filament the small display is fine. Turning the light on/off is a bit too deep in the menu for my taste, but again really not such a problem as some make it sound. And not having a lidar is even a benefit over the X1 in my eyes: the printer uses the tuning parameters you supplied it instead of trying to determine flow itself and then failing because of bad lighting or a non-standard build-plate. In short: I love the P1S and think it's the best if you want to print functional stuff and not just PLA.
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm I barely have a business case for a P1S for what I use the printers for practically, so an x1 combo being nearly double the cost of a p1s is unfortunately not an option for me at this time
what was the fatal flaw again? clickbait?
a little clickbait but ultimately that dated display is what I was getting at
@@jet_lea So the fatal flaw is you're not keen on the display?. The term fatal means causing death or something leading to failure. So yes it's clickbait.
@@jet_lea It is a bit dated. You can replace it with that aftermarket one I think. Personally, I use the slicer to do everything except loading and unloading filament. Occasionally to turn the light on, or move the bed or hotend up and down when I'm changing nozzles or something. BUT 90% of the time it's on my PC or 10% phone.
This review is spot on. It's a great printer, but if you only print in PLA, PETG and TPU, the A1 is the printer to get. I have three A1s and a mini and they've been amazing for me.
That said, if bambu releases a new P series printer with the features of the A series (screen, dynamic flow calibration, quick swap nozzles, etc.), I'm grabbing a couple for sure.
Thanks for posting!
I completely agree
You collect these things or what? Lol
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm I guess a bit lol
Realistically, having multiple printers has been a huge improvement to workflow. I do all my prototyping on my mini; my three A1s are my production printers. With multiple printers I can have multiple print jobs going at once, or have quicker production on projects with multiple plates. Definitely a luxury, but a nice one to have. 🍻
@@NWGR sounds like you got a nice business going. I’m working on making a business too. 3d modeling some 1/12 scale miniatures for diorama makers. I got a few prototypes to turn into products. I’m going to design some packaging too. I got an ebay now but I’ll probably be better off opening an etsy store for this stuff. Just looking to make enough to keep from starving.
@@TheFutureLooksGrimmYou might wanna change that username to a more optimistic one to "keep from starving".. though 3D printing is an interesting thing to get into for that reason.
I replaced my Ender 3 V2 with the A1 Mini. Can't wait to get a printer that I don't have to spend 2 hours just to get the printer started correctly. Thank you for all of your videos to help me make my choice for my next printer.
I’m glad you enjoyed it and you are gonna be very happy with the new printer :)
I am also coming from an E3V2. Not only did my bed warp, but so did the glass build plate. Got tired of screwing with it. I wanted my hobby to be printing, not the printer. Although I do like what to can do with open sourced machines and all the mods, but I got to get the printer working to even print the mods.
@@plugwithapug Yeah, it started to get very annoying constantly having to fix something new. I had my E3V2 fully modded and it really didn't even seem that the auto bed leveling was doing anything. I would do its clicking on the build plate and then it would just print as if it didn't even have and auto leveler. Too confusing!!!
Bambu's service is great. They really help you and quickly send you replacements if needed. Sometimes they even do that for free as a courtesy, even thought certain parts are not covered by warranty (it happened to me). Their replies usually take a day or even two and usually you don't get more that 2 replies per day. But overall, it's a good experience and, most importantly, it makes you feel safe.
That's exactly what I was hoping to hear :)
Very good video. I have a suggestion for a future video topic: fumes and noise when 3D printing. And, ventilation, health etc. Address these concerns that people may have. Also, safety such as when the filament gets stuck on the reel and the motors are tugging on the cable etc.
Thank you for your suggestion! Addressing fumes, noise, and safety in 3D printing is super important, and I’ll definitely consider making a video on that topic.
You can really tell the A1 is a more recent machine. A next gen P1 that incorporates the A1's improvements and a bigger build plate (plus an AMS that supports TPU!) is my dream printer.
That would be absolutely ideal
@@jet_lea I eagerly await the introduction of a 350mm^3 corexy from Bambu. I will retire my K1 Max and SV08 when that happens. I don't know about TPU in an AMS though. It's the old pushing a rope conundrum. I think the Prusa XLs solution (multiple extruders) is the right one for TPU.
Another fire vid from jet🔥
Thank you!
Loving the content. Recently got a P1S myself as an upgrade from an Ender V Pro I have been running for a couple of years. Major appeal was keeping the hair of my dog and two cats out of my print area :)
keeping hair away is definitely one of its strengths
I need to pick one up just to see how it bridges between my A1 and X1C but I've got a Neptune coming later this week or early next week to play with first.
I have the X1C too and wanted an A1 combo mostly just to learn it (and get the full 256 cubed volume) but what gave me the most pause was the open air AMS lite, but like Jet L did, there's a lot of mods to enclose it, did you enclose yours or find it needs it?
That sounds like a solid plan! The Neptune should be a fun addition to your setup. Can't wait to hear how it performs between your A1 and X1C!
@@jet_lea I'm really looking forward to the Neptune, I've got some video ideas that I need the build volume for.
pet hair is a legit concern, it's part of why I went with the X1C at first
I've definitely had dog hair embedded into my prints..
I have an X1C and was considering getting an A1 (or mini) or a P1S as a 2nd. Right now I'm honestly waiting for BBL to announce the next flagship and will decide then
I don't blame you, I love both my bambu printers but I'm also very excited to see what they're going to announce later this year
I had a dilema between an A1 mini vs a PS1 as my first printer. Went with the PS1 as i already had parts to print in ABS but mainly having an enclosed printer instead of an open bedslinger seemed safer when you have little kids... didnt stop my daughter 'feeding' the PS1 grated cheese while printing (pla with door open) because "its hungry" 😂
Hey the printer has to eat too :)
The big question is, when will the Bamboo P1S pro (aka MK2) be released with the features that the A1 can offer
I’m sure it’s coming soon
I heard Bambu’s next release is in Nov
But it will not be a P1S pro ... It will likely be a bigger new flagship replacing the X1C / X1E as the top of the range. I think it might be a toolchanger, attacking the Prusa XL. So far almost everything Bambu did was attacking part of the Prusa market. X1(C) was still a quite broad attack on the total market and the P1 was going for the cheaper end of the market beating Prusa with support and multi-material. The A1 mini was clearly targeting the Prusa mini market and the A1 was convincing the few people still thinking the Prusa Mk-something would be better. But by then Prusa had the XL, so what would the next target be?
@@MisterkeTube great insight there! I think you are right on the pulse of things!
great video and excellent info, I just added an A1 mini to my collection (p1s, s1pro, e3v2) its going to be interesting to see the comparisons first hand.
Could you do a measurement test of decibel levels between the P1S and A1 mini? Really curious about that since I was just about to purchase the P1S however the "Boeing 737 fan noise" comment in the video put me on the fence again. 😅
Bambu studio slicer apps advanced mode in my opinion is insanely limiting. There are hundreds of settings cura has that they dont and even when they forked from Prusa slicer they removed a bunch so people wouldnt mess up their prints. They have maybe 40 settings compared to Prusas like 200 and curas like 600. I feel extremely limited in their slicer but I use it just so I can use the WiFi upload. You dont need to really change anything in their settings really if you just want a good print. That being said, if you want more strength or flowrate, all they really allow is more walls, ceilings, and floors.
interesting, im not experienced enough to notice things like these so I really appreciate your insight:)
@@jet_lea 90% of the difficult stuff is taken away for accessibility. They also organize things well into tabs. You dont really learn these unless you have very unique issues (which you dont tend to have often on their printers). Also, the P1S is specifically aimed at print farms, while the X1C and X1E are mainly for engineering. Because they are aimed at print farms, the machine is made to be ran through the slicer since you have to run the slicer to get your model anyway. That being said, I do think your argument is valid on the screen. Big tree tech does sell an upgrade for 70$ on amazon if you want it.
Have a look at orca slicer. it's got the best of bambu and prusa slicer combined and still lets you control your bambu printers. I havn't played with cura recently so don't know how it compares.
I am thinking of getting a Bambu A1, I would like to make small clips for my photography gear or other projects. How do i decide on the type of filament that would have some flex and have a smooth finish.
Can ABS be used in the A1 if it is needed?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts in this video. Greg
Abs is not supported by the a1. I’ve heard of people being able to print it using custom settings and other various methods but it’s not meant for that. Depending on what you’re looking for, petg is a pretty decent alternative to pla
Thanks for the reply. It helps making a decision. Greg
A really good video showing the experience! I have been thinking about upgrading to the P1S at some point after playing with my A1 mini.
You definitely will not regret it
Well you might regret it a little at first but then you will get used to it lol It is loud though I mean loud! It wirs it makes grinding and scraping sounds I’m still not sure how! I’m getting used to it but I got the P1S Combo. Definitely don’t get the P1S alone. In that case get the A1. Just remember the A series are as close to perfect as you can get but the P1S is not.
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm Your username along with the content of your comment doesn't give me much hope 😂
I was just about to buy the P1S combo and now having second thoughts, probably just settling for the A1 mini on its own.
@@YaNeK92 hah sorry to sound so negative. My name is Jason Grimm. I just kind of regret not getting the A1 which is as flawless a 3d printer as possible. The P1S is louder even with an enclosure, than the A1 series is without. If you get the A1 Combo you will not regret it.
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm "Jason Grimm" sounds like a name for a secret agent! That's awesome bro 😎
Yeah, I think I might have to settle for the A1 or the mini, however I really wanted to get something enclosed to have the dust protection etc., though I think the noise level might be more important for me especially as I'm just beginning to get into this hobby.
A1 mini is currently on sale in my country for $379 AUD delivered. Not sure how that compares with the rest of the World or your location.
I got a P1S combo about two weeks ago along with my A1 mini, the P1S is mainly for printing PC and PA when I need the durability and strength
How difficult is it to print those materials?
@@jet_lea I only printed Bambu PA6-GF and PC so far, no issues with the default profiles and the chamber temperature could be maintained above 50c+
@@cong-organicHow is the noise level of the P1S? I've been considering to buy it, however wasn't sure it would be a good idea to keep it on my main desk in my studio where I work and do gaming. Thanks in advance!
@@YaNeK92 Overall louder than A1mini for sure since there are two extra fans running especially for PLA and PETG
@@YaNeK92 Might not be a good idea to keep it on your work table, mine is kept in the studio in the basement and I normally work in the bedroom
Thx for the video, it helped me to make my decision btw A1 and P1 series
Glad it helped
I am a complete noob at 3d printing, I purchased a x1c 3 weeks ago and was printing within 1 hour of unboxing.
Two annoyances,
Needed to turn up my 2.4 Wi-Fi to be able to get a LAN only connection.
Need to connect to cloud to get auto firmware updates.
I have already designed stuff i need in FreeCAD and printed successfully.
If you are on the verge... just buy one... you wont be disappointed.
Stay away from cloud printing if you can as it is not private, use the LAN only functionality.
Cool vids dude! Thank you! Much info and no bs. Im looking into buying my first one, do you have affiliate link for Bambu lab?! Tell them your viewers will buy them thanks to your vids.
Thank you! And unfortunately do not have an affiliate link however if bambu would like to give me one I would not say no 👀
@@jet_lea Keep up the good work man! Do you have any idea how long before Bambu will release 500x500x500 or something? or an X2 maybe soon?
@Cvandenhazel I don’t have any official info but i’ve heard rumors from others that something will be announced at the end of this year.
An excellent and fair presentation. Well done. ;-)
Glad you liked it!
the video I've been waiting for
it’s here
The P1S is beginner friendly
it definitely can be!
If you’re new to the 3Dp game then your opinion and being so bold about it means most nothing to me. Coming from Ender 3 days to where things are now. The P1S is amazing.
you’re absolutely correct and I don’t blame you :)
I agree that the P1 series screen sucks. Even the original Ender 3 had a better & larger screen. And the panda touch screen don't make it much better, only easy to deal with the AMS combo.
Hopefully the new bambu printer will have a screen similar to the a1 series printers or better!
Wireless is not required to print via cloud, you CAN use the SD card but that’s old school lol
Also, I’ve had my two p1s for about 6 weeks now and I have never loaded the filament manually (or used the external spool lol)
I too am not a fan of the screens, had my first ever clog yesterday (besides one partial clog on my a1 before).
I spent about 10 hours and got EVERY error in the book before finally figuring out that the filament diameter was too big for the extruder.
This was not a new spool and was fine for about 150+g worth of printing prior to this.
Having to find my phone every 3 minutes to see what the newest error code meant was a pain.
The A1 interface is a thousand times better.
And I also love the AMS lite much much better than the original AMS units. I just wish it was enclosed. Going to set it up to feed from my s4 soon.
How come these things don’t connect by usb to the computer? That really suprised me no one mentions it. I have to use my cellular iPad Pro and iPhone as a hotspot to make it work.
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm you can use the SD card instead of WiFi/hotspot.
But yeah you would think there would be a direct way to connect too. I’m unsure.
Good grief. Click bait
somewhat
@jet_lea Big tree tech panda touch upgrade. That fixes your tough screen issue also big tree tech revo hotend high flow nozzel upgrade. So it looks your complaints aren't good ones so it gets a 10/10
Tomorrows video fixes everything 👀
I had an Anet A8 for 8 years and then motherboard died. I didn't want to get a new board and reprogram it - I decided to go the easy rout and and get a P1S. "Z-homing failed". "Z-homing failed". "Z-homing failed". "Z-homing failed". "Auto leveling Failed". "Z-homing failed". "Auto leveling Failed". Auto calibration finished without problems both times I ran it. I went through the troubleshooting guide twice and checked TH-cam. I can tell the printer to home the z-axis and it will do it, but as soon as I try to print I get errors.
I had to assemble my Anet A8 myself and that included peeling off all the paper of the acrylic pieces (there were a lot of big and small pieces) that made up the frame. It took me less time to get my first print on the A8 than the P1S. I wish Bambu would respond to my support ticket.
I’m almost certain your Nathan builds robots son! 😅😂
is that a compliment?
@@jet_lea I mean tons of people like him unfortunately they are all newbie uneducated about the hobby but think they are a pro bec they modified a ender 3 kinda people. If imma listen to someone talk and talk trash about a printer id rather hear from someone who has designed and built they own printer so they have some knowledge of they are speaking about. The printer he is so called “building” now w
Wouldn’t even be a thing without all of his TH-camrs giving him help holding his hand through it all doing most the work and knowledge for him let’s be real lol
Lame click bait
Wow lol I had the same exact reaction to the P1S! I had regrets. The think sounds like a garbage truck grinding and clunking, it poops and wacks things in the poop area. It’s not good at pooping. In looks like it’s going to ram the glass when it homes. It’s 60db LOUD!! Open the door and it’s 70db loud like a vacuum running! You kind of begin to get used to it. The AMS had some annoying issues where it sometimes rocks the spool jumping up and hitting the top. I was really regretting not getting an a1 combo instead but it slowly began to grow on me and in talking to people on redit this seems to be a normal reaction when you come from the virtually flawless A1 mini or A1. Those 2 have spoiled us they are so good!! But as I said it’s growing on me.
I agree 100%
Great video I was trying to decide over a P1S or a A1 full size. My wife & I are new to 3D printing and I want a printer that is newbie friendly but good quality prints. We think we are going with the A1.
You will definitely not be disappointed!
well done very good presentation, just one point you refer to A1 mini with the MCS lite is that fitted to the A1 as well, Many thanks
yes, the only major difference is build volume
Your filament detection is in your AMS Lite. I have a P1S, P1P, two A1's with AMS Lite and a Mini. A1 is easily the recommendation for first printer, mostly because of price. If price were not an issue, I would recommend the P1S with AMS. Yes it's older and lacks some few convenience features that the A1 has, but against the backdrop of time, these things are minor. The P1S with AMS is NOT a mid-level to advanced printer at all. It has advanced capabilities, but overall is easier to use that the A1's because it doesn't suffer from some of the issues that the A1's have. For example, in 4,000 hours of printing, I have only changed out the hot end once, and that was to put in a hardened steel hot end for printing carbon fiber filament. The A1's occasionally clog the nozzle in such a way that using the clog poker won't work. I've been working on ways to recover those nozzles easily, but in the meantime it means putting in a new nozzle. We had one heat bed fail the day after the recall bed arrived as well. It worked out perfectly, but still the heat bed failed and not due to any issue related to the recall. It just stopped working without warning with no discernible cause. That was at about 1,500 hours. For background, the A1's are my wife's and she uses a lot of silks and glitters and multi-colors, so that is probably contributing to the flow issues, whereas I use primarily PETG, some PLA and other types, and rarely do multi-color prints.
Depending on the print, the P series are 10-20% faster than the A series. Not enough to be bothered by. Also the core-xy is superior for printing tall prints without a lot of footprint, for example a print-in-place light saber. And of course the enclosure makes some materials easier to print. I have not had any problem with the noise since Bambu added noise cancellation. I work in a 12x12 home office and my printers are in here with me. They are not an issue. As for the screen, I know how to use it well enough, but I seldom do. I have the BTT screen as well, but rarely use it either. Everything is done through Bambu Studio. Handy I only use for cancelling an object on the plate. Same with the A1's and for my K1 Max and SV08 for that matter, although both of them have bigger touch screens. If filament changes weren't such a relative pain in the butt for those two, I wouldn't use the screens at all.
Interesting video and I always learn something from hearing the stories of others. Thanks!
I love hearing your experience, it’s actually quite interesting because my nozzle experience has been the exact opposite. I’ve never had to change the nozzle on my a1 mini due to a clog however i’ve had an unfixable clog on my p1s with less than half the print time of my a1! Everyone’s experience is going to be different so it’s always interesting to hear from others :)
@@jet_lea Yes there's always a YMMV element to this, but interestingly, we had 3 of 3 A1's out of commission for a day recently because we ran out of print heads. I did some tinkering to try to recover some clogged ones. On one, I torched the hot end directly which resulted in it ejecting explosively from the heat sink. That was fun, but it didn't help with the clog. Then I heated my unclogger and that had some limited success but had to be done several times before the filament was far enough down that I could put the hot end back on the printer and heat it up properly. At that point we could push the filament out. I might try to create a process around that as I don't want to accidentally stab myself with a glowing hot unclogger.
Of interest is the fact that the A1's typically print either multi-color, silks or tricolor filaments, which are probably responsible for the excessive clogs.
i stop watch the video when u say its the same speed, lol
fair enough
I got the P1S as my first printer. I chose that over the A1 because of the enclosure and where it’ll be I didn’t want to have to worry about drafts causing print issues or when the humidity is higher during the summer months. Also I preferred the potential with the AMS over the AMS Lite.
I’ve had it for almost two months and have had very few issues. The setup was fairly quick and simple for me. I didn’t bother trying to print one of the pre-loaded files and did my first print in Bambu Studio.
I agree the screen could have been better. I bought the Panda Touch for a better screen to use with the printer.
BambuLab did come out with a series of short videos on the uses of Bambu Studio a few weeks ago. I’m a software engineer so most of the videos from others on Bambu Studio was fairly easy to follow and most of the items I’ve printed so far have been using the default configurations provided.
I’ll be exploring more of the advanced features as I start getting into doing projects. All my printing so far has been either mods, tools or drawer organization.
I also have the printer in my office so haven’t had noise issue when I’m on conference calls. My office is like a 9x12 size room and at the opposite end of room from my desk.
I’ve been using mostly Bambu filament so the RFID has been nice where I haven’t had to tell the AMS what filament is in it. I do have to change the Filaments on the project files since the projects are done by others.
Thanks for your input! How loud truly is the noise level from the P1S? I'm really curious about that since I was just about to purchase the P1S however the "Boeing 737 fan noise" comment in the video put me on the fence again. 😅
I've got a smaller sized studio room with a large desk that I was planning to place it on the corner of, as I also do my work and some gaming there so wasn't sure if that'd be a good idea.
Thanks in advance!
@@YaNeK92 I haven’t measured how loud it is but the noise is mainly from the cooling fans. If it’s going to be on the same desk in your studio where you’ll be doing stuff and gaming, it might be a little too loud.
@@YaNeK92 It’s 60db with door closed. Door open it’s 70db. I measured it while 2ft away. Another youtuber got the same results. It’s not just the fans. It makes all sorts of grinding noises, and at the poop chute it wacks a lever, rubs the hot end cleaner, when it homes it crashes into an edge which looks like it hit the glass door. It makes way more noises than just the fans. The AMS on it is loud too. It is too loud for a studio apt. Unless you really need to print ABS etc, get the A1 Combo and you will not regret it. I wish I’d gotten that instead.
Nice, sounds like you’re all set with your P1S! Definitely want to look into the screen upgrade very soon
@@EngineerWilky81 Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
Great video. I think that you put it well when you said this is an intermediate machine. I just upgraded to a P1S after using an ender 3 for 5 years. I absolutely love the P1S and after having it for 2 days ordered the AMS. I recognize that there is diminishing returns between this and the A1, but i think that for someone who wants to push a machine more, or use more temper-mental materials you cant beat the value of the P1s.
exactly!
Like you I printed that AMS lite enclosure kit. I printed it in Sunlu Clear PLA. Only down side is it’s hard without opening enclosure to see how much filament is left.
But I will say it’s improved the quality of prints. It keeps humidity in the 10-20 range for several days which is saying a lot as normal humidity here in TN is in the 45% to as high as 80% during really humid days.
Yes, the lack of a way to see the filament is definitely a little bit of a hassle however like you said i think it's worth it for the better print quality
thanks for the advice, no bull keep up the channel
thanks!
Great perspective, thank you!. I have an A1 Mini and a Prusa MK3S+, but considering replacing the Prusa with the P1S. Been looking at the $69 7”touchscreen add-on that BIGTREETECH is selling as a nice upgrade to the control panel.
Stay tuned 👀
I don’t thing the Panda touch screen is a good replacement for numerous reasons Jet will cover. You still can’t see what the print jobs are, it doesn’t have the nice screen graphics the A series or X1 has. Save your moneys and get the x1 Carbon Combo if you can afford it.
I have an XTouch, but honestly: the standard display is good enough for the few times you actually will be using it. Most things are anyway done via the app or slicer and for (un)loading filament the small display is fine. Turning the light on/off is a bit too deep in the menu for my taste, but again really not such a problem as some make it sound. And not having a lidar is even a benefit over the X1 in my eyes: the printer uses the tuning parameters you supplied it instead of trying to determine flow itself and then failing because of bad lighting or a non-standard build-plate. In short: I love the P1S and think it's the best if you want to print functional stuff and not just PLA.
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm I barely have a business case for a P1S for what I use the printers for practically, so an x1 combo being nearly double the cost of a p1s is unfortunately not an option for me at this time