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Little secret I've been using in day 1 raiding, Lucky Pants and Malfeaces. That's right, when you find yourself no special no heavy trying to finish last stand. And to be honest it has & still tops as a top DPS option in PvE.
Great video, you need to add the Centrifuse auto rilfe to this. It has a chain lightning effect, great for add clearing. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
Another note: Quicksilver Storm does not fire arc rockets anymore. the rockets now match the gun's damage element type, so it's either kinetic rockets (w/o catalyst) or strand rockets (w/ catalyst)
It also got a nice 25% damage buff which applies to the grenades. I like it because it's like having a free 4th weapon, while limited it feels great against champions after suspending them. Currently running one two punch shotgun and a machine gun with Osmosis. I like suspending champs and then hitting them with that nice shotgun melee combo for fast kills. And the machine gun osmosis is nice for as clear and proccing tangles. Far from Meta, but a fun playstyle that I've found works well for me.
@penileymajorey7174 Yeah the damage is great but in my experience it's tough to get the hit off at close range I honestly lost count how meny times I had fired it at cabal at close range and it was like it never hit them which still confuses me still
@penileymajorey7174 that is likely because it is a primary exotic. They have a higher damage buff then specials. Also I'm pretty sure the granade does the same damage as you would normally do with a whole magazine without the micro rockets
Cerberus was my first exotic when I started the game in beyond light so I used it a lot and it holds a special place in my heart.. but I can’t deny how bad it is lol.
I legit used it for a couple of Legend Lost Sectors that were up close and personal... so i could use the shotgun mode for fucking up stunned champions. It actually worked pretty well. It too holds a special place for me, though yes, it is garbage. It has a nice ornament at least. In fact i think the ornament from an EV package was why i was using it in the LLS to begin with xD
@@adamwilliams8128 Not everyone has the catalyst unlocked, it wont show a catalyst description if you don’t have the catalyst unlocked, it only shows how to get it
they also increased the Noble Rounds count from 5 to 6 with Season of the Deep, so 3 kills does fill up your noble rounds ocunt without needing to waste a round first
Only thing that really beats Osteo is Arbalist when you have to worry about barriers more then dps. We have so many amazing SMGs in the energy slot it's a no brainer to use one of them instead when barriers and shields are a major pain.
Agree. But for me it is Striga 99pct of the time. If I need longer range, add a Trace. Mega add clear, wave frame. Back up dps for a boss, sniper or fusion.
3:25 the lucky pants rework came out the same season that particle deconstruction did, so for most pve it actually broke the game because you could use Cartesian coordinate with vorpal, PD, and void tether to get a huge burst of dps, then could swap either crimson or malfeasance with lucky pants to basically one cycle almost any boss in the game outside of raids and GMs. So yes, there was a time where pants was an actual average hunter meta build
I still use it now. I usually top 3 dps even in "meta" teams. The only disadvantage is running with cheese warlocks they get all the damage with no effort 👀. But yeah 500k minimum in 5 seconds is pretty good I say. Switch to a heavy then go back after the cool down. Makes my damage go a long way. Dump all 9 of my explosive light hot head and usually about 3 rotations of lucky pants and the boss is dead.
@@F0XHunter I've actually been using it with a explosive payload bottom dollar with volatile rounds, paired with witherhoarde or osteo striga I literally have trouble dying because of how much ad clear and dps I have
@@mikopoot1486why explosive payload? The damage boost from lucky pants doesn’t increase the damage from the explosive so you’re losing half you’re damage
@@natetollett5515 1. It's my only roll and I refuse to play gambit 2. It's got subsistence so I mainly use it to for red and yellow bars. plus it isn't my raid/master load out, mainly just a load out have fun with. Most of my dps comes from tether and grand overture anyways 3. I like making things go boom
Final Warning is great IMO. Fully charged bursts while aiming down sights do really good damage when you land crits and that's not difficult to do when you can suspend enemies constantly with a good strand build. It's also a good close range anti-barrier weapon with anti-barrier sidearm.
Remarkably good add clear as well with constant unraveled projectiles going for other enemies, and with the season artifact the tangles you spawn can damage and suspend a lot of enemies if you shoot it. Only downside I'd give it is that you have to be relatively close to get the target lock. Not super close, but can be a problem for certain bosses.
Also clutch for things like Wyverns. Do the charged body shots until they open up their weak spot then delete it. Such a strong side arm its stupid, not boss damage meta but champions/elites get melted pretty consistently
Funny thing about quicksilver is that the grenade mode ignores damage reduction on certain enemies/objects. Threshers/taken orb things normally take way less damage than normal enemies, but the quicksilver grenades do their full damage. They one shot taken orbs and almost kill a nightfall difficulty thresher with three grenades.
as i said - he has no idea how to use quicksilver and he gives it rank A... omg... noobish striga has rank s+? same witherhoard... useless at GM, useful only in raids but not must have... my ass is on fire when i see ranking videos from guys who don't know how to use weapons at all, cos he normally use everything recommended from utube guides.
@@kossailor3207 I feel that. I tried witherhoard and osteo in harder content and it feels like they fall off unless you're using them for specific purposes, while Quicksilver now that it's been buffed feels like having a 4th weapon with the grenades. A couple grenades can take down a suspended overload champ, while a suspended unstoppable can be quickly death with by using a one two punch shotgun and a melee in like 2-3 rotations. I'm still newish and learning after 300 hours, but I do prefer techniques that can be done easier without having to be incredibly skilled like the people that will Grapple, one two punch, and then melee before touching the ground.
@@hyperactivetendencies7054 yeah bro! Exactly what i mean! It is like u have regular ammo strand GL with the damage higher than heavy ones... I use it all the time
@@hyperactivetendencies7054 u need to know one more thing - one-two punch doesn't deal big effort on GM, even if u play as titan with synthoceps (double buffs). So only on low difficulty. But here are no reason to be ashamed. Bungie brake the game fron time to time, so we all learn how to play in new conditions. Even if i play 1700 hours xD
They reverted that this season though.... It's fucking hard to keep track it's had so many goddamn nerfs and buffs and nerfs and buffs again that it's impossible to remember. I'mma just stick with my Full Bore, Accurized, Wellspring, Explosive equipped Long Arm and call it good. Also have a Rapid Hit Redirection roll which is kind of interesting... still not sure how i feel about Redirection... Kinda great in some fights, kinda shit in others.
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as long as you do not follow the ranks, it's helpful, yes. Someone ranking a weapon and claiming he doesn't know how it even works shouldn't give you wrong impressions :D
@@D4ngrs Yeah, what I mean is it is at least a way for someone new to see the weapons in action and hear a bit about them, even if it is biased it's still good info. Like, "do I really want to go to do X raid or dungeon", just to get a weapon that I end up not liking for one reason or another. I look at them more like a showcase, and that is great imho
@@Spectre115 yes that's what I meant, for final warning he said he doesn't even know how it works. It's never B tier, for a primary weapon and a sidearm it's damage output is massive if using ADS and shooting crit spot.
Final Warning is one of my go to for high end content. Its damage when you are tracking an enemy is really good. I don't use the aim bot much on it though.
@@rickydhilon7889 its a good weapon really. The drawback is you have to really be at point blank range to land all those crits, which is a huge tradeoff imho.
So thing to note. While the wording on Cranial Spike doesnt state that it increases damage anymore it still does in PVE specifically but not in PVP. In your clips of Glassway there are multiple instances where you can see that the damage is clearly going up after each precision hit.
Best video! You explaining what every weapon does and a funfactor in bonus plus your opinion makes it easy to grasp how good/bad or fun a weapon is. Helps since I'm a returning player and I am completely lost with all the weapons added through the years.
this is going to be a bit of a reddit moment but: Monte carlo (the name of the weapon) is named after the metropolis monte carlo theorem (a technique for statistical distribution) which is named after a casino in Monte Carlo (the place). I only say this because the exotic trait: Markov Chain is the dead giveaway - which is one one of the subtechniques used within Monte Carlo techniques.
I feel like the majority of the list is in a really good place, but the fact that Quicksilver isn't competing at the top of S+ tier is kind of insane to me. I'd also say that Wish Ender should be thete with ut, and Final Warning is vastly underrated by the entire community, especialky in synergy with the amazing Strand builds in the game
Final Warning definitely deserves better than B tier. It's got insanely good single target damage when you lock on and crit someone while aiming down sights, and in RoN you can take out both tormentor shoulders with just 1 mag. It's honestly one of the best primary exotics in the game imo because it's got good ad clear capabilities (locking on and hipfiring into a crowd just shreds through the enemies, especially with the unraveling you get with a full charged shot), it's got good single target damage (the critical hit damage bonus from ADSing is absolutely insane), I highly recommend using this for anti-barrier or even just as a regular primary weapon that you can use to burst through majors and champions easily. Side Note: I know this is most likely a joke, but if you have over 1k kills with Final Warning and you don't get that "hipfire while locked on = tracking rounds and more body shot dmg, ADS while locked on = faster bullets and hella extra crit dmg", that's a genuine skill issue. The gun's not complicated, you just mark targets by holding down the trigger, the longer you hold down the trigger the more rounds you shoot off in a burst (max of 10), a maximum burst of 10 rounds will unravel marked targets, and you can choose whether to hipfire or aim when firing in order to either get tracking rounds that do more dmg to the body or get faster rounds that deal hella extra dmg to crit spots.
I absolutely love the gun, even if I haven't used it too much recently. Its incredibly fun, and as you said, even does really good single target damage on top of the excellent add clear potential. Actually haven't tried it with the new Whirling Maelstrom Hunter, but your comment has put the idea in my head to give it another chance when I get on later 👍🏻
Osteo Striga is the single BEST exotic. PvP - Works PvE - WORKS PvE w/ Necrotic Grips - W O R K S Pve w/ Necrotic Grips and Weavers Trance - very functional
True although I would have elevated Quicksilver to an S+ tier just as easy on account of pvp ttk and the insane burst you can go with the 3 really easy to build up grenades. Many users do not know you can fire those 3 nades in rapid succession if you hold the fire button and spam the reload button. In average content I think it is a 150k burst which is just nice on a champion, yellow bar, boss or chunky addpacks
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The reason to use Wish Ender over Arb is, wish ender counts as 3 arrows hitting per shot aka 3x the amount of super from damage and 3x the amount of damage ticks for things like fusion nades/strand damage giving grenade back etc. Wish Ender is the best primary in the game for high end content and its not even close. One shots most red bars 3-4 shots elites and the super gen from shooting champs is unmatched. Also you can run a wave frame/blinding gl with it. If I haven't sold you yet, Witherhoard makes it do more damage so I'm sure you have a warlock running one on your team. Witherhoard turns things into taken and it does bonus damage to taken.
Was literally just about to write this. Even though Bungie have nerfed it a little by stopping the 3x damage, you still get insane amounts of super energy, and still deal with barrier champs like they're not even there.
Quicksilver rockets are not arc anymore. They changed this before Lightfall as mentioned in a previous TWAB because it'd "mess with the upcoming catalyst."
as much as I appreciate you doing the work to put this video together, it doesn't seem to have any particular order and there are no time markers making it pretty difficult to specifically find what weapon I want to see your ranking of.
A little side note to help with the sudden drop in frames where it starts getting static. Export with a higher Max Bitrate. I find around 200 to be good and the minimum around 150.
I just, I loved the part i was listening about monte carlo and the music from the fungal wastes from hollow kick in, that made me smile, and your tier list is very interesting!
I would consider Whitherhoard the best in the game if had had like Unstoppable or Overload built in. Right now, as much as I love it, Arby is my go to Exotic Kinetic Special weapon.
Some notes about quicksilver. The grenades do insanely high damage vs any "construct" type object. Barricades, tether anchors, the sword of a well of radiance, oracles in VOG, stasis crystals, even a sentinel's bubble. I have a hunch that if quicksilver could hold anymore than 3 grenades, it could pop a bubble by itself. Cause with 3 it gets reeeeeally close. Also kills with the tangles created by quicksilver's perk count as kills for the gun itself. Which is a cool bit of new functionality for it.
Monte Carlo is probably named after Monte Carlo Methods/Experiments. It has to do with randomized datasets/experiments, and is probably for the randomized path towards a full melee charge. Still weird, but not AS weird.
After getting close to mastering Cerberus +1, I hate this. Cerberus +1 is such a good gun that just needs a little buff for it to be absolutely amazing. The Cerberus +1 has a consistent pellet spread that rotates clockwise, the Cerberus's average ttk at 20m is around .6 and .7. And up close you can get a .3 or down to a .17ttk.
I don't really see why using Arby over Wish is better even in high end content elemental shields are pretty easy to deal with and Wish Ender also breaks those pretty much instantly and thanks to the nerf Bungie gave Arby a while ago it deals about 10% more damage per a shot against champions than Arby combine this with infinite ammo, higher range, and like 90% less flinch and it just makes it the better choice. Edit: Btw the Final Warning gets a 100% buff on both body and precision, creates tangles if charged even slightly, and has a 30% chance per a shot to unravel a target when charged even slightly the dps on this thing is pretty insane enough to beat out some special weapons and is great for champions
On top of what you said, Wish Ender also gives you a ton of extra super energy and has great synergy with lots of subclasses. If they ever give it even just a half-decent catalyst, it could be one of the top 5 exotic weapons in the game. Also, being able to run any of the awesome new elemental Fusion Rifles that have been introduced into the game, alongside the incredible GL options, means that it is a better option for an overpowered loadout 👍🏻 Also, I'm a huge fan of Final Warning. It's massively underrated and even though I haven't tried it with Maelstrom, I'm going to this afternoon and can't wait to have a lot of fun with the combo 👍🏻.
I think that these are some pretty solid ratings, though Final Warning's review does stand out as somewhat half-baked. It's as complicated as people make it out to be. Hold the trigger and it will charge and start locking onto targets (with the locking process being completed when the diamond turns red). Release when not ADS and get tracking rounds with a 20% damage buff to locked targets. Release when ADS to deal double precision to locked targets. It's also been shown in testing to be the highest DPS primary by quite a large margin. TLDR It's a funky gun for sure, but just use it like a bow and it'll go nuts.
Quicksilver does NOT shoot arc rockets anymore. That was a bug when it came otu and was "fixed" a few weeks after it came out :D Also, Final Warning defenitely is worth it. The precision damage it deals is insane. I've done the legendary campaign with it on both of my other chars with ease. I sometimes even use it for DPS and I'm not in the loer part of DPS in my team... it can be insane if used correctly + easy addclear. It can also help in legend LS where you can just "lock on" an enemie and hide behind a wall but still shoot around the corner. Also it has anti barrier this season. It's S tier, or A tier at worst, but not B tier for sure
A note about Lumina's Damage buff. It is not the highest. Banner Shield from Sentinel Titan provides a 40% damage buff. However, it's even weirder because it multiplies at the end of the equation, meaning it can multiply a higher base damage value.
I got like 5000 kills on Quicksilver-Storm, so I think with that miniscule bit of practice i had with the weapon, I believe I'm pretty decent with it now.
I'm not standing for the rat king slander, invisible is great in solo play, but you weren't using it with 5 other rat kings, so you didn't get the rpm increase, magazine increase, reload increase (and maybe damage idk). Its a good gun made to be used by a team
mhm... use his S+ ranks in master or grand master and repeat ur words... he gives rank S+ to the guns which should be used just for fun, only in easy activities
As a warlock main I have like one build that makes use of thorn because it's a poison/suspend crowds, honestly if Ortega striger worked as well with necrotic grips so I have to agree with your statement on thorn
The recent buff to the Zen Moment perk made Jade Rabbit actually kinda annoying to fight against in PvP. I don't think it's anything game-breaking, but honestly I do think because of that buff it's higher than C right now. Maybe like a high B.
@Ember Centurion Dead man's tale does get a damage bonus from cranial spike in pve. It was removed in pvp only. It does pretty respectable damage with full stacks and hipfiring with the rate of fire increase. It also gets the kinetic damage buff, and the exotic primary damage buff which means it swings pretty hard. Long arm really doesnt compare dps wise, and its hipfire is really bad due to not having dmt catalyst. Long arm just gets subclass synergy and doesnt eat your exotic slot. I'm really sad it didnt get volt shot.
Yeah I noticed that I was still getting more damage with each stack of Cranial Spike in PvE, and when I read that it apparently got nerfed, it sounded like it was for PvP only, like how Huckleberry’s rampage works.
Conditional finality can infinitely freeze champions, just reload after the stasis shot and melee very useful especially for anti barriers and arc hunter.
Will say Rat King arguably crawls it's way into B tier with its catalyst. Kinda makes it like crimson but slower and with invis. Really pairs well with me being the invis monkey that has to rez everyone BC my friends are titans and don't understand what cover is.
speedloader slacks + Lumina = fun hunter support build. One noble round + 5 stacks of speedloaders (in pve) is 35% increased damage, 55 reload and 55 handling, and a 0.89 reload duration modifier for your teammate AND YOU. It's a lot of buffs, and that's not even covering healing. You want to get nuts? Go solar, get a judgement of kelgorath with enhanced incadescent and enhanced demo (not even talking about armor mods here btw) and you've got healing from your heal grenade too. It's a super fun build, and I'd recommend everyone try it because it gives realllly good rewards for things you'd already be doing in the game. All it takes is a kill and a dodge, and more kills (this time with your glaive that pops minors instantly, thus resulting in other minors instantly blowing up). So many rewards for so little investment. But here you're saying "but I don't have a crafted Kelgorath, what do I do?" if only had that one ritual weapon from beyond light that could run demo+chain reaction or demo+vorpal. Oh wait... you do? then go out and try this weapon today, it is honestly so fun in many pieces of content, you are just a net bonus to any coop environment.
Monte Carlo-voibreach double shield throw anti-barrier shield throw-heals on void breach and oversheilds as well BOOM melee build Also, volitile kills count for Monte energy Overload aswell
I've been playing with conditional finality, and I think it's s tier. It's power level is that of a close range witherhoard. It hits like a fucking truck, and has some of the best utility in the game. It has fantastic add clear, as both the shatter and ignite shred groups of adds. It has good boss DPS for anything under a raid, with shatters and ignitions adding good damage. It destroys majors, I've killed wyverns in two shots. It has good ammo economy, and is in a fantastic slot. It breaks two types of shields and it's pellets are a static pattern every shot so you know exactly where the shot goes. It destroys champions, with it's freeze you can easily kill barriers and overload, while being intrinsic anti unstoppable. It even has huge build craft synergy, with both stasis and solar. It's been enough for me to put away my 10k kill witherhoard. It does have one huge downside, and it's very short range. It requires you to risk yourself, but it pays off big time.
Only note, I don't think you give Wishender enough credit for having unlimited ammo. I know there is a lot of ways to run double special successfully right now, but I solo high level end game content with wish ender and a strong (see: meta) heavy regularly. I would definitely go S tier on that. No notes on anything else, great list!
Since they've nerfed double special (R.I.P), Wish Ender is even better, because of the ability to use any of the insanely good options that we have for special weapons in the energy slot
@@chrisbarnesbarnes8332 but consider this: I prefer the feel of hand cannons to anything that's automatic. Osteo may be objectively better, but Thorn is just more satisfying for me. Anyways I use Sunshot now cuz ads go boom lol
blessing of the skye is the second highest damage buff, right behind void titan shield. though iirc its a 5% difference and lumina is still preferred because you arent sacrificing a teammates damage when using it
Between linear nerfs and the removal of match game: Wish-ender > Arbalest. They both one-shot red bars and barrier shields in GMs, so give me the one with infinite ammo and bonus super energy.
Id give verglas D at max. In end game it can’t one shot head shot most of the stuff which doubles time to kill on a bow and in low level activities it’s ok, but useless compared to all the better alternatives.
I think Hawkmoon and Revision Zero are much better now with the buffs, and Hawkmoon giving you the ability to delete orange bars and chunk majors pretty often in Nightfalls is pretty valuable, in my opinion. Rev Zero can also do it, but not quite as often as Hawkmoon, and for not quite as much damage.
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Little secret I've been using in day 1 raiding, Lucky Pants and Malfeaces. That's right, when you find yourself no special no heavy trying to finish last stand.
And to be honest it has & still tops as a top DPS option in PvE.
Great video, you need to add the Centrifuse auto rilfe to this. It has a chain lightning effect, great for add clearing. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
I've just upgraded my pc and I thought i'd broke it when this happened lol
and that would still be shorter than a rick kackis intro
I THOUGHT IT WAS MY PC LMAO
Update, luckypants are now meta 🤓
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Another note: Quicksilver Storm does not fire arc rockets anymore. the rockets now match the gun's damage element type, so it's either kinetic rockets (w/o catalyst) or strand rockets (w/ catalyst)
It also got a nice 25% damage buff which applies to the grenades. I like it because it's like having a free 4th weapon, while limited it feels great against champions after suspending them. Currently running one two punch shotgun and a machine gun with Osmosis. I like suspending champs and then hitting them with that nice shotgun melee combo for fast kills. And the machine gun osmosis is nice for as clear and proccing tangles. Far from Meta, but a fun playstyle that I've found works well for me.
@penileymajorey7174 Yeah the damage is great but in my experience it's tough to get the hit off at close range I honestly lost count how meny times I had fired it at cabal at close range and it was like it never hit them which still confuses me still
@penileymajorey7174 that is likely because it is a primary exotic. They have a higher damage buff then specials.
Also I'm pretty sure the granade does the same damage as you would normally do with a whole magazine without the micro rockets
Fun fact about Cerberus+1, it has reverse damage-falloff. The further away you are, the more damage it does.
Not that simple there is a sweet spot
@@BALTDGuitar agreed
I didn’t even think there would be a reason to use +1 and there still isn’t
@@SpongyBus PvP reasons say otherwise
@@SpongyBus Because it is fun to run around with what is basically an AA-12. That is all the reason you need
Cerberus was my first exotic when I started the game in beyond light so I used it a lot and it holds a special place in my heart.. but I can’t deny how bad it is lol.
Here’s to hoping that pve auto rifle buffs make Cerberus unfathomably cracked
u just dont have that dawg in you man
I have 13,555 crucible kills with Cerberus+1. IT'S NO D- .
I legit used it for a couple of Legend Lost Sectors that were up close and personal... so i could use the shotgun mode for fucking up stunned champions. It actually worked pretty well. It too holds a special place for me, though yes, it is garbage. It has a nice ornament at least. In fact i think the ornament from an EV package was why i was using it in the LLS to begin with xD
If you think Cerberus +1 is bad then you have accepted Modernity. Reject Modernity, Convert to Cerberus
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Also for anyone wondering, lumina’s catalyst gives 2 remnants from every kill, meaning twice the noble rounds
Nobody was wondering… we all can read the catalyst description 😂😂
@@adamwilliams8128
Not everyone has the catalyst unlocked, it wont show a catalyst description if you don’t have the catalyst unlocked, it only shows how to get it
they also increased the Noble Rounds count from 5 to 6 with Season of the Deep, so 3 kills does fill up your noble rounds ocunt without needing to waste a round first
Osteo Striga is probably the most S tier. It's damage to everything plus ease of use can't really be beat. And it looks cool.
Only thing that really beats Osteo is Arbalist when you have to worry about barriers more then dps. We have so many amazing SMGs in the energy slot it's a no brainer to use one of them instead when barriers and shields are a major pain.
Agree. But for me it is Striga 99pct of the time. If I need longer range, add a Trace. Mega add clear, wave frame. Back up dps for a boss, sniper or fusion.
been steamrolling onslaught with it, i've forgotten how to aim with any other gun XD
3:25 the lucky pants rework came out the same season that particle deconstruction did, so for most pve it actually broke the game because you could use Cartesian coordinate with vorpal, PD, and void tether to get a huge burst of dps, then could swap either crimson or malfeasance with lucky pants to basically one cycle almost any boss in the game outside of raids and GMs. So yes, there was a time where pants was an actual average hunter meta build
I still use it now. I usually top 3 dps even in "meta" teams. The only disadvantage is running with cheese warlocks they get all the damage with no effort 👀.
But yeah 500k minimum in 5 seconds is pretty good I say. Switch to a heavy then go back after the cool down. Makes my damage go a long way. Dump all 9 of my explosive light hot head and usually about 3 rotations of lucky pants and the boss is dead.
I use it with Last Word and a Cascade point Ikelos shotgun, pretty decent damage when compared to meta loadouts
@@F0XHunter I've actually been using it with a explosive payload bottom dollar with volatile rounds, paired with witherhoarde or osteo striga I literally have trouble dying because of how much ad clear and dps I have
@@mikopoot1486why explosive payload? The damage boost from lucky pants doesn’t increase the damage from the explosive so you’re losing half you’re damage
@@natetollett5515 1. It's my only roll and I refuse to play gambit
2. It's got subsistence so I mainly use it to for red and yellow bars. plus it isn't my raid/master load out, mainly just a load out have fun with. Most of my dps comes from tether and grand overture anyways
3. I like making things go boom
Final Warning is great IMO. Fully charged bursts while aiming down sights do really good damage when you land crits and that's not difficult to do when you can suspend enemies constantly with a good strand build. It's also a good close range anti-barrier weapon with anti-barrier sidearm.
Agreed. It's one of the most powerful primaries in the game when it comes to pure damage and it demolishes champions.
Remarkably good add clear as well with constant unraveled projectiles going for other enemies, and with the season artifact the tangles you spawn can damage and suspend a lot of enemies if you shoot it.
Only downside I'd give it is that you have to be relatively close to get the target lock. Not super close, but can be a problem for certain bosses.
Also clutch for things like Wyverns. Do the charged body shots until they open up their weak spot then delete it. Such a strong side arm its stupid, not boss damage meta but champions/elites get melted pretty consistently
fr i would put it on par with striga
FW is crazy with boss damage paired with Necrotic grip is crazy the dot makes it even crazier
Funny thing about quicksilver is that the grenade mode ignores damage reduction on certain enemies/objects. Threshers/taken orb things normally take way less damage than normal enemies, but the quicksilver grenades do their full damage. They one shot taken orbs and almost kill a nightfall difficulty thresher with three grenades.
and it doesn't do a lot damage to yourself, so you can just shoot it at your feet to clear ads
as i said - he has no idea how to use quicksilver and he gives it rank A... omg... noobish striga has rank s+? same witherhoard... useless at GM, useful only in raids but not must have... my ass is on fire when i see ranking videos from guys who don't know how to use weapons at all, cos he normally use everything recommended from utube guides.
@@kossailor3207 I feel that. I tried witherhoard and osteo in harder content and it feels like they fall off unless you're using them for specific purposes, while Quicksilver now that it's been buffed feels like having a 4th weapon with the grenades. A couple grenades can take down a suspended overload champ, while a suspended unstoppable can be quickly death with by using a one two punch shotgun and a melee in like 2-3 rotations. I'm still newish and learning after 300 hours, but I do prefer techniques that can be done easier without having to be incredibly skilled like the people that will Grapple, one two punch, and then melee before touching the ground.
@@hyperactivetendencies7054 yeah bro! Exactly what i mean! It is like u have regular ammo strand GL with the damage higher than heavy ones... I use it all the time
@@hyperactivetendencies7054 u need to know one more thing - one-two punch doesn't deal big effort on GM, even if u play as titan with synthoceps (double buffs). So only on low difficulty. But here are no reason to be ashamed. Bungie brake the game fron time to time, so we all learn how to play in new conditions. Even if i play 1700 hours xD
Lucky pants statement did not age well
.....so what was that about lucky pants "never being meta"?
Finally a ranking video that’s not based on JUST PVP
We need more of these.
14:06 cranial spike does still work in pve, but when you get to 5 stacks it cuts your damage for the increased fire rate
The damage nerf at five stacks actually got removed this season
They reverted that this season though.... It's fucking hard to keep track it's had so many goddamn nerfs and buffs and nerfs and buffs again that it's impossible to remember.
I'mma just stick with my Full Bore, Accurized, Wellspring, Explosive equipped Long Arm and call it good. Also have a Rapid Hit Redirection roll which is kind of interesting... still not sure how i feel about Redirection... Kinda great in some fights, kinda shit in others.
@@NateTheScot I can’t keep track with all the nerfs as well, and redirection I’ve got a love/hate relationship with
‘You can go outside, touch grass, get a job and work for 6 months, go to college, get a degree, get married, have 5 children, get sent to a retirement home or before the reload actually finishes…and that still wouldn’t be longer than a Rick Kackis intro’ 😂😂😂😂😂😂 im dying bro instantly subbed.
I'm pretty sure that malfeasance takes 5 shots to explode and last word has 8 bullets in the mag. Also lucky pants best exotic in every way
yea i thought i was the only one that noticed the last word thing
These tier lists have been massively helpful, thanks for that! As a new player just seeing the weapons and hearing a brief description is huge.
as long as you do not follow the ranks, it's helpful, yes. Someone ranking a weapon and claiming he doesn't know how it even works shouldn't give you wrong impressions :D
@@D4ngrs Yeah, what I mean is it is at least a way for someone new to see the weapons in action and hear a bit about them, even if it is biased it's still good info. Like, "do I really want to go to do X raid or dungeon", just to get a weapon that I end up not liking for one reason or another. I look at them more like a showcase, and that is great imho
He used rat king wrong in the vid, its meant to be used with others for a huge buff
@@Spectre115 yes that's what I meant, for final warning he said he doesn't even know how it works. It's never B tier, for a primary weapon and a sidearm it's damage output is massive if using ADS and shooting crit spot.
@@D4ngrs Yeah idk if he knows how the game works. Its just my elitist mindset but this tierlist is kinda mid idk man
Final Warning is one of my go to for high end content. Its damage when you are tracking an enemy is really good. I don't use the aim bot much on it though.
High end content now like what? It's literally horse shit and takes a exotic slot is the worst strand weapon lmao.
@@rickydhilon7889 You're delusional the thing deals special Weapon dmg LOL
it's Crit dmg is insane
@@rickydhilon7889 it actually does really good damage right now, will be even better with the sidearm buff
@@rickydhilon7889 theres no way you actually know how to use the weapon. it does absolutely insane crit damage
@@rickydhilon7889 its a good weapon really. The drawback is you have to really be at point blank range to land all those crits, which is a huge tradeoff imho.
So thing to note. While the wording on Cranial Spike doesnt state that it increases damage anymore it still does in PVE specifically but not in PVP. In your clips of Glassway there are multiple instances where you can see that the damage is clearly going up after each precision hit.
A year later during pantheon thinking about certain items on here like malfeasance and lucky pants...
Pretty sure it’s actually illegal to not have on actium war rig whilst using SB on a Titan
Best video! You explaining what every weapon does and a funfactor in bonus plus your opinion makes it easy to grasp how good/bad or fun a weapon is. Helps since I'm a returning player and I am completely lost with all the weapons added through the years.
This didn't age well with the surge of lucky pants users with Malf/ crimson but still a great video love it
Lucky pants becoming meta in the minus 15 days.... great vid though, learned a lot as a returning player 😁
3:24 "Lucky pants will never be meta."
Season of the witch: What did you saay?
With the wish ender I use it alot I find the appeal in the fact it has infinte ammo and does alot of dmg for a kinetic
I think it might be broken currently honestly
Definitely an S Tier weapon it’s better than arby for barrier weapons because match game doesn’t exist anymore
this is going to be a bit of a reddit moment but: Monte carlo (the name of the weapon) is named after the metropolis monte carlo theorem (a technique for statistical distribution) which is named after a casino in Monte Carlo (the place). I only say this because the exotic trait: Markov Chain is the dead giveaway - which is one one of the subtechniques used within Monte Carlo techniques.
The intrinsic trait, “Monte Carlo Method”, really says it all.
Lucky pants will never be meta lmfao! It’s crazy how much lucky pants is used in this current and last seasons meta lol!
conditional is on another level, it can stun unstop, add clear is on point, and the damage is really good for a special
fun fact lucky pants is actually good for dps on certain bosses
with the right hand cannon of course
3:23 that shit aged like fresh milk with into the light.
I feel like the majority of the list is in a really good place, but the fact that Quicksilver isn't competing at the top of S+ tier is kind of insane to me. I'd also say that Wish Ender should be thete with ut, and Final Warning is vastly underrated by the entire community, especialky in synergy with the amazing Strand builds in the game
Final Warning definitely deserves better than B tier. It's got insanely good single target damage when you lock on and crit someone while aiming down sights, and in RoN you can take out both tormentor shoulders with just 1 mag. It's honestly one of the best primary exotics in the game imo because it's got good ad clear capabilities (locking on and hipfiring into a crowd just shreds through the enemies, especially with the unraveling you get with a full charged shot), it's got good single target damage (the critical hit damage bonus from ADSing is absolutely insane), I highly recommend using this for anti-barrier or even just as a regular primary weapon that you can use to burst through majors and champions easily.
Side Note: I know this is most likely a joke, but if you have over 1k kills with Final Warning and you don't get that "hipfire while locked on = tracking rounds and more body shot dmg, ADS while locked on = faster bullets and hella extra crit dmg", that's a genuine skill issue. The gun's not complicated, you just mark targets by holding down the trigger, the longer you hold down the trigger the more rounds you shoot off in a burst (max of 10), a maximum burst of 10 rounds will unravel marked targets, and you can choose whether to hipfire or aim when firing in order to either get tracking rounds that do more dmg to the body or get faster rounds that deal hella extra dmg to crit spots.
I absolutely love the gun, even if I haven't used it too much recently. Its incredibly fun, and as you said, even does really good single target damage on top of the excellent add clear potential.
Actually haven't tried it with the new Whirling Maelstrom Hunter, but your comment has put the idea in my head to give it another chance when I get on later 👍🏻
Osteo Striga is the single BEST exotic.
PvP - Works
PvE - WORKS
PvE w/ Necrotic Grips - W O R K S
Pve w/ Necrotic Grips and Weavers Trance - very functional
True although I would have elevated Quicksilver to an S+ tier just as easy on account of pvp ttk and the insane burst you can go with the 3 really easy to build up grenades.
Many users do not know you can fire those 3 nades in rapid succession if you hold the fire button and spam the reload button.
In average content I think it is a 150k burst which is just nice on a champion, yellow bar, boss or chunky addpacks
@@187roel I agree, but this seems to be a primarily PvE tier list, as evidenced by his dissing of rat king.
@@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar To each there own indeed and in a way this gives some diversity too.
i just found you today and already subbed, love to see a hunter main in pve, everyone else seems to be a starfire warlock or a hammer thundercrash titan
conditional finality is "shaq uses IcyHot to freeze his mortal enemy and later burn them to ash" but in weapon
Oh brother, wait until this guy hears about malfeasance lucky pants dps. It’s certainly meta now
The reason to use Wish Ender over Arb is, wish ender counts as 3 arrows hitting per shot aka 3x the amount of super from damage and 3x the amount of damage ticks for things like fusion nades/strand damage giving grenade back etc. Wish Ender is the best primary in the game for high end content and its not even close. One shots most red bars 3-4 shots elites and the super gen from shooting champs is unmatched. Also you can run a wave frame/blinding gl with it. If I haven't sold you yet, Witherhoard makes it do more damage so I'm sure you have a warlock running one on your team. Witherhoard turns things into taken and it does bonus damage to taken.
Was literally just about to write this. Even though Bungie have nerfed it a little by stopping the 3x damage, you still get insane amounts of super energy, and still deal with barrier champs like they're not even there.
Quicksilver rockets are not arc anymore. They changed this before Lightfall as mentioned in a previous TWAB because it'd "mess with the upcoming catalyst."
Also, no mention of the GL mode lol
as much as I appreciate you doing the work to put this video together, it doesn't seem to have any particular order and there are no time markers making it pretty difficult to specifically find what weapon I want to see your ranking of.
Cryosteshia is the best gun in the game. Unwilling to change or falter on this belief.
It's a menace for shutting down Supers in PvP
It's the only seasonal exotic that I have exactly 0% progress on the catalyst quest
Supposedly Monte Carlo is named after the “Monte Carlo Method”. Some math thing idk I searched it up
A little side note to help with the sudden drop in frames where it starts getting static. Export with a higher Max Bitrate. I find around 200 to be good and the minimum around 150.
Didn't even notice it was lagging, thanks :)
I just, I loved the part i was listening about monte carlo and the music from the fungal wastes from hollow kick in, that made me smile, and your tier list is very interesting!
"Lucky pants are not will never be meta"
I would consider Whitherhoard the best in the game if had had like Unstoppable or Overload built in. Right now, as much as I love it, Arby is my go to Exotic Kinetic Special weapon.
Same here it’s too good and consistent
@@royceomani5127 I agree. If Whitherhoard had intrinsic Unstoppable or Overload, this would be a much closer argument.
Your music choice is absolutely perfect
Some notes about quicksilver. The grenades do insanely high damage vs any "construct" type object. Barricades, tether anchors, the sword of a well of radiance, oracles in VOG, stasis crystals, even a sentinel's bubble. I have a hunch that if quicksilver could hold anymore than 3 grenades, it could pop a bubble by itself. Cause with 3 it gets reeeeeally close.
Also kills with the tangles created by quicksilver's perk count as kills for the gun itself. Which is a cool bit of new functionality for it.
This guy don't know what he is talking about.... for sure... Striga is his favorite... noobish smg...
Monte Carlo is probably named after Monte Carlo Methods/Experiments. It has to do with randomized datasets/experiments, and is probably for the randomized path towards a full melee charge. Still weird, but not AS weird.
I didn't think d2 footage could look... carbonated. Good vid.
Carbonated?
Outbreak actually spawns nanites regardless if it was a critical/ headshot, it just spawns them for any hits.
I love your humor. Definitely worth a subscribe! : )
After getting close to mastering Cerberus +1, I hate this. Cerberus +1 is such a good gun that just needs a little buff for it to be absolutely amazing. The Cerberus +1 has a consistent pellet spread that rotates clockwise, the Cerberus's average ttk at 20m is around .6 and .7. And up close you can get a .3 or down to a .17ttk.
The catalyst is great, but only in verry specific situations, love the cerb
That was the best way to explain touch of malice my favorite weapon! Could not explain it better myself I had to hear it twice
I don't really see why using Arby over Wish is better even in high end content elemental shields are pretty easy to deal with and Wish Ender also breaks those pretty much instantly and thanks to the nerf Bungie gave Arby a while ago it deals about 10% more damage per a shot against champions than Arby combine this with infinite ammo, higher range, and like 90% less flinch and it just makes it the better choice.
Edit: Btw the Final Warning gets a 100% buff on both body and precision, creates tangles if charged even slightly, and has a 30% chance per a shot to unravel a target when charged even slightly the dps on this thing is pretty insane enough to beat out some special weapons and is great for champions
On top of what you said, Wish Ender also gives you a ton of extra super energy and has great synergy with lots of subclasses. If they ever give it even just a half-decent catalyst, it could be one of the top 5 exotic weapons in the game. Also, being able to run any of the awesome new elemental Fusion Rifles that have been introduced into the game, alongside the incredible GL options, means that it is a better option for an overpowered loadout 👍🏻
Also, I'm a huge fan of Final Warning. It's massively underrated and even though I haven't tried it with Maelstrom, I'm going to this afternoon and can't wait to have a lot of fun with the combo 👍🏻.
I think that these are some pretty solid ratings, though Final Warning's review does stand out as somewhat half-baked. It's as complicated as people make it out to be. Hold the trigger and it will charge and start locking onto targets (with the locking process being completed when the diamond turns red). Release when not ADS and get tracking rounds with a 20% damage buff to locked targets. Release when ADS to deal double precision to locked targets. It's also been shown in testing to be the highest DPS primary by quite a large margin.
TLDR It's a funky gun for sure, but just use it like a bow and it'll go nuts.
Quicksilver does NOT shoot arc rockets anymore. That was a bug when it came otu and was "fixed" a few weeks after it came out :D
Also, Final Warning defenitely is worth it. The precision damage it deals is insane. I've done the legendary campaign with it on both of my other chars with ease. I sometimes even use it for DPS and I'm not in the loer part of DPS in my team... it can be insane if used correctly + easy addclear. It can also help in legend LS where you can just "lock on" an enemie and hide behind a wall but still shoot around the corner. Also it has anti barrier this season. It's S tier, or A tier at worst, but not B tier for sure
A note about Lumina's Damage buff. It is not the highest. Banner Shield from Sentinel Titan provides a 40% damage buff. However, it's even weirder because it multiplies at the end of the equation, meaning it can multiply a higher base damage value.
I love your tier lists, commentary is so funny. Also I appreciate hollow knight ost :D
that geoguessr clip was the most subtle but coldest flex i’ve ever seen in my life god damn
Your about as funny as a hangover but the content is solid, I like it!
Rat king is good with the catalyst because you can just kill a psion and get health back plus invisibility to maintain that health.
compelling argument but I can just kill them from afar with a scout or use an smg to do what rat king does by killing them
@@chunkyrabbit1032 it can be usefull cause you can get invis on every class and that can be handy and some niche cases
@@chunkyrabbit1032 i also have that problem, I usually use a pulse or scout with it in pvp.
dude this video made me laugh sm especially when u said ur not reading allat😭 this is my first vid from you and i cant wait to watch more from you
I got like 5000 kills on Quicksilver-Storm, so I think with that miniscule bit of practice i had with the weapon, I believe I'm pretty decent with it now.
I'm not standing for the rat king slander, invisible is great in solo play, but you weren't using it with 5 other rat kings, so you didn't get the rpm increase, magazine increase, reload increase (and maybe damage idk). Its a good gun made to be used by a team
That’s a once in a blue moon type of thing, and it’s used as a meme most of the time, like how that one team didn’t solo Nezzy with just the Rat King.
@@brawler5760 For a meme weapon, its damage is phenomenal.
2:24
From the mist, a shape, a rat is taking form
What a bloody fantastic video, sir. Absolutely brilliant
mhm... use his S+ ranks in master or grand master and repeat ur words... he gives rank S+ to the guns which should be used just for fun, only in easy activities
As a warlock main I have like one build that makes use of thorn because it's a poison/suspend crowds, honestly if Ortega striger worked as well with necrotic grips so I have to agree with your statement on thorn
The recent buff to the Zen Moment perk made Jade Rabbit actually kinda annoying to fight against in PvP. I don't think it's anything game-breaking, but honestly I do think because of that buff it's higher than C right now. Maybe like a high B.
bad juju acc have a secret perk that on ur 150 kills streak or a bit less or more i don't remember it cause an explosion just like a cursed thrall
@Ember Centurion Dead man's tale does get a damage bonus from cranial spike in pve. It was removed in pvp only. It does pretty respectable damage with full stacks and hipfiring with the rate of fire increase. It also gets the kinetic damage buff, and the exotic primary damage buff which means it swings pretty hard.
Long arm really doesnt compare dps wise, and its hipfire is really bad due to not having dmt catalyst. Long arm just gets subclass synergy and doesnt eat your exotic slot. I'm really sad it didnt get volt shot.
Yeah I noticed that I was still getting more damage with each stack of Cranial Spike in PvE, and when I read that it apparently got nerfed, it sounded like it was for PvP only, like how Huckleberry’s rampage works.
Conditional finality can infinitely freeze champions, just reload after the stasis shot and melee very useful especially for anti barriers and arc hunter.
Sure that the solar shot also works on champions, can't remember which type right now, but I remember using it and igniting an enemy and stunning it👍🏻
Will say Rat King arguably crawls it's way into B tier with its catalyst. Kinda makes it like crimson but slower and with invis.
Really pairs well with me being the invis monkey that has to rez everyone BC my friends are titans and don't understand what cover is.
About damn time . Been waiting on this video for years
I love my Indebted Kindness for anti barrier, that way it frees up an exotic slot. It's probably my favorite sidearm.
I can’t wait to hear ur heavy rankings
Best thing about Wish Ender is hydra shields mean nothing. Actually any shield, but those are the most annoying ones.
that lucky pants comment aged like milk
speedloader slacks + Lumina = fun hunter support build. One noble round + 5 stacks of speedloaders (in pve) is 35% increased damage, 55 reload and 55 handling, and a 0.89 reload duration modifier for your teammate AND YOU. It's a lot of buffs, and that's not even covering healing. You want to get nuts?
Go solar, get a judgement of kelgorath with enhanced incadescent and enhanced demo (not even talking about armor mods here btw) and you've got healing from your heal grenade too. It's a super fun build, and I'd recommend everyone try it because it gives realllly good rewards for things you'd already be doing in the game. All it takes is a kill and a dodge, and more kills (this time with your glaive that pops minors instantly, thus resulting in other minors instantly blowing up). So many rewards for so little investment.
But here you're saying "but I don't have a crafted Kelgorath, what do I do?" if only had that one ritual weapon from beyond light that could run demo+chain reaction or demo+vorpal. Oh wait... you do? then go out and try this weapon today, it is honestly so fun in many pieces of content, you are just a net bonus to any coop environment.
Honestly sounds super fun, never really thought to use speedloader slacks
Monte Carlo-voibreach double shield throw anti-barrier shield throw-heals on void breach and oversheilds as well BOOM melee build
Also, volitile kills count for Monte energy
Overload aswell
I've been playing with conditional finality, and I think it's s tier. It's power level is that of a close range witherhoard. It hits like a fucking truck, and has some of the best utility in the game.
It has fantastic add clear, as both the shatter and ignite shred groups of adds. It has good boss DPS for anything under a raid, with shatters and ignitions adding good damage. It destroys majors, I've killed wyverns in two shots. It has good ammo economy, and is in a fantastic slot. It breaks two types of shields and it's pellets are a static pattern every shot so you know exactly where the shot goes. It destroys champions, with it's freeze you can easily kill barriers and overload, while being intrinsic anti unstoppable. It even has huge build craft synergy, with both stasis and solar. It's been enough for me to put away my 10k kill witherhoard.
It does have one huge downside, and it's very short range. It requires you to risk yourself, but it pays off big time.
Only note, I don't think you give Wishender enough credit for having unlimited ammo. I know there is a lot of ways to run double special successfully right now, but I solo high level end game content with wish ender and a strong (see: meta) heavy regularly. I would definitely go S tier on that. No notes on anything else, great list!
Since they've nerfed double special (R.I.P), Wish Ender is even better, because of the ability to use any of the insanely good options that we have for special weapons in the energy slot
Is that Hollow knight music in the background at some point? The mushroom area?
Great video, somewhat new to Destiny so had fun watching!
The comment section is very angry at the tier list. Bro didn't do that much research for this tier list.
Been waiting for this video and it did not disappoint
I love Thorn so much, especially now that I've gotten Necrotic Grip. Clearing a horde of weak enemies with one shot feels so good
Kind of useless to use Thorn when Osteo Striga exist
@@chrisbarnesbarnes8332 but consider this: I prefer the feel of hand cannons to anything that's automatic. Osteo may be objectively better, but Thorn is just more satisfying for me. Anyways I use Sunshot now cuz ads go boom lol
blessing of the skye is the second highest damage buff, right behind void titan shield. though iirc its a 5% difference and lumina is still preferred because you arent sacrificing a teammates damage when using it
“Lucky pants will never be meta”
20% hand cannon buff would like to speak with you
My top five fav exotics:
5: Borealis. Sniper
4: The last word: Hand Cannon
3: Le Monarque: Bow
2: Sweet Buisness Auto rifle
1: Red Death pulse rifle
As someone who's new
Cerberus kinda fun
Between linear nerfs and the removal of match game: Wish-ender > Arbalest. They both one-shot red bars and barrier shields in GMs, so give me the one with infinite ammo and bonus super energy.
good ranking! i agree with most of it, even 5 months later! also i love the hollow knight music
Id give verglas D at max.
In end game it can’t one shot head shot most of the stuff which doubles time to kill on a bow and in low level activities it’s ok, but useless compared to all the better alternatives.
Cant wait to see how hand cannons perform after the mid season update
Final warning is one of my new faves. It's if osteo striga and vex mithoclast have a sidearm baby
I think Hawkmoon and Revision Zero are much better now with the buffs, and Hawkmoon giving you the ability to delete orange bars and chunk majors pretty often in Nightfalls is pretty valuable, in my opinion. Rev Zero can also do it, but not quite as often as Hawkmoon, and for not quite as much damage.
Mida would have good synergy with a speed build on arcstrider… I guess. 2:48
Every since wish ended got its buff and anti barrier I’ve been using it in any harder content because it one shots absolutely everything
"As if anybody made melee builds in the first place"
*Chuckles in Solar Titan.*
Malfesence got buffed and got a catalyst that gives it vorpal. And outbreak is now craftable with rewind rounds.