Marshall DSL40 vs Origin 50 Amplifier Comparison - Did I Buy the Wrong One?
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- In this video, I am comparing the Marshall DSL40CR to the Marshall Origin 50 guitar amplifier.
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Both are loaded with a 12" speaker but they sound very different from each other. I own the DSL40CR did I buy the wrong one? I think not. 😁
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To my ear the DSL sounds nicer and If I was buying one of them I’d choose the DSL hands down.
I went with the Origin 50 head, I wanted old school dirt. But I started playing in the 70's so it sounds right.
I own the DSL 40 also. You can't beat that low end bloom, and the sound of the cabinet with the Celestion Vintage in it. Even my stuck-up Matchless and Dumble snob friends all say the DSL-40 sounds awesome.
Keep the DSL, Shane! Good vid.
the crunch on the origin is more realistic to old Marshalls and dirty.
Plexi baby Plexi!
I prefer it too, maybe I am looking for something other than modern sounding amps, I never had a vintage sounding one
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On my PC speaker system there are times when the sound very similar and other times where there is a notable difference... that said the DSL does often seem to sound a bit thicker and darker than the Origin which means keeping both could certainly be a luxury option...
Thank you for posting this Shane, I'm going to listen to this a few more times and then sleep on it...having a hard time deciding which I like better.
Hey! So which one did u get?
As a shop owner here in San Diego, Ca. We carry both & for me the Origin is more a Plexi sound & the DSL is a JCM 800/2000 ish. Thanks for the great vid. BTW the Origins are flying out of my shop!!!!!!!!!!$$$$
What’s your shop? I am in San Diego! Chula vista
The DSL lets you go from Clean to all levels of major overdrive. I like the cabinet sound of the DSL. The DSL gain channel seem a bit over the top on brightness. I love the Clean. IT is a very powerful amplifier. I am learning how to set the DSL.
I just got a new dsl 40 and just love it, its so versatile you can play just about any type of music genre, a must get amp
Yeah, the DSL sounds better to me, especially clean. I couldn't quite describe what I liked about the sound, but you defined it for me with the Low-Low Mids comment. Cool stuff.
I had given up playing electric around 2017 end and stuck to acoustic a while, so I kind of missed a new DSL range had come up. For a few days I was kinda sceptical why you like the DSL40 but man do I love the changes whatever they are. Amazing tones and a reachable price. Great stuff!
I've got the DSL40 and love it. I've not tried the Origin 50. However, based on this review I'd say they are both pretty AWESOME.
I really like the tone of both, but the origin is more my style. More transparent and a bit more grit and top end. It really cuts through and would make a great blues amp. But I can see how it would not be as good for a heavier style.
You only heard the DSL's clean/crunch channel.
The Origins doesn't even come close to the DSL's "Ultragain" channel.
@ronaldsweet3484 the DSl 40 on the Ultra Gain channel with the Gain set low and/or the guitar volume rolled off a bit does a better vintage Marshall then the Origin does and will do it at more reasonable volume. I also think low Gain settings on ultra,Gain do a better vintage Marhsall, then the classic Gain channel.
GREAT COMPARISON!!! I traded in my DSL40 toward my Origin 50 w/1936 2x12 cab. I love both, but I don't regret it one bit! I don't need all that extra on-board gain because I have great overdrive pedals (Ibanez TS808 and Friedman BE-OD). The other guitarist I'm playing with currently uses a DSL40C. We both run GLP's through our rigs. When we show up to practice, all he ever brings is his guitar and combo amp, whereas I have to bring my amp, cab, and pedalboard (specifically referring to the TS808, and BE-OD) in order to approach the versatility of his DSL40. Bottom line: We both agree our rigs sound great together. I love the tone he gets out of his, and vice versa. There are no losers in that room. 🤘😉
I prefer the DSL. The cleans were more "Hendrix like". And I liked the way the way both channels reacted to the overdrive (over the Origin). Although I haven't actually played through either.
Thanks Shane. A review I was really waiting for, though I already acquired a Origin 50H. What I've found out, is that the Origin, just like the "good ole" Marshalls, sounds best when overdriving the pentode power tubes. So, high master volumes. I also have a DSL50 85th anniversary. It also sounds great. The Origin reacts extremely well on your guitar's tone and volume control. Just like the plexis do. That's where it shines. Both great amps, different animals.
These are the vids, I love to see. You always pull through with awesome content, Shane! Good stuff
Hey shane great video. Comparison was perfect. Really hard to choose. They both sound good. After i heard the origin on the first lick you played, i have to admit my heart skipped a beat. Man those vibrations.
They both sound good on this demo. Good tones!
My ears preferred the DSL, in the cleaner tones it struck me as more ‘present’, generally something I attribute to higher frequencies. I was sorting out that description in my head, and then you said it had a darker tone! So I had another listen. Now I’m stuck, not really knowing why, but I still prefer the DSL. I thought the differences were reduced with the overdrive. For my 5 cents worth, you bought wisely!
I’ve got the origin 20 amp just tried it with my Ibanez s series loaded with Tesla sharks Alnico 2 pickups they have a vintage voice omg 😮 incredible 70’s rock tones love it 😎
I like them both clean but the DSL just sounds more alive and sounds much better when pushed. As I said in your origin 50 review it sounds nice clean but real fizzy when you push it. IMHO the DSL is the more versatile and well rounded of the two. Great review as usual!
be happy with either if was to pick one would be the DSL got more depth - its a keeper
Versatility of the DSL for the win here. I also like that the knobs are on the front within easy reach if you practice sitting at home with the amp quite high up. Don't have to get off the chair or stand over it and lean down with a guitar. Now I just have to decide if I want a 20hr or 40cr :)
Cheers for the video Shane. been a great series and really helpful.
They both sound great, but I sense a warmth from the origin that really speaks to me.
Listening to both amps back to back, I will say that the Origin did sound a little better, but the tone of the DSL can’t be beat! Still the Origin still sounds fizzy with the overdrive and to me it’s not a pleasant sound. You made the right decision again Shane!!! Cheers!🎸🤘🏽🤙🏾🎸
Plus there is no reverb on the Origin and their are two different ones on the DSL 40. I like the Origin when it came out and considered buying one but did not because of the verb. DSL has 40 channel-independent digital spring reverb with 2 different verbs I believe. Normal and Ultra what ever ultra is. lol Plus being used to a 22 watt amp the 40 may be better and I think it has 20 watt switch.
If I was Jimmy Page and needed a amp
to do Zep 1 again. Id grab the origin in a heartbeat!
He used modded supro for Led 1
@@brunonz all stock, so the stories go,,amps werent much modded in those days other than swapping tubes and speakers..
You got that right brother !!!! With my origin 50c I can definately reach Supro Thunderbolt tones
This.
I just picked up a DSL100HR a couple of weeks ago and I'm really enjoying it. The Origin sounds really nice and midrangey for those 60's and 70's rock sounds as well. Think I'll by trying out one of those pretty soon as well to see how well it stacks up against a Blackstar Artisan.
I have listened several times in the last couple of days....I want to like that Origin 50C and truthfully I think it sounds good until you hit the overdrive, then I thought the DSL sounded much smoother to my ears. At this point I am leaning toward a DSL20 Head and a 2x12 cab. I don't play out, just at home so 20 Watts should be more than enough. Thanks again for the effort you put in to these demos and I appreciate that you call it like you see it.
I need myself a Marshall thanks as always Shane for your informative videos
I think they both sounded fantastic! I think for versatility and features, I'd have to give it to the DSL, especially since it's cheaper. The Origin really brought more character out of your Tele's pickups though... I just got one of the older DSL40s on sale and that's a beast of an amp, too. Besides the Origin 5 (apparently), Marshall has been killing it lately!
I play teies exclusively, and maybe that's why when I go back and forth between a DSL40 in the backline at one gig and my Origin 20c at another, the Origin sounds so much better
Great playing as always shane! I think you made the right choice buying the dsl40cr its just got that great fat crunch tone and the origin 50 is mute. Keep it up! 🤘
Austin Jones how the hell did u write your comment with u being a mute. That’s pretty amazing.
Just what I was looking for, thanks Shane.
Great Vid Shane! The Origin has more of the old sounds from the ‘60’s and the DSL has more of a Modern sound at least to my ear. Guess it just comes down to what you prefer. The Origin is also 10lbs lighter according to the Specs but I’d at least have to carry one more pedal, a Reverb where as that’s built into the DSL. Please keep up the good work.
Great review as always
Nice review! I think it just depends what you want to do with the Amps. I’ve found the dsl series a bit difficult to cut through the mix when playing with a band, but it’s smooth scooped mids and low end feel nice when jamming solo in a bedroom or basement.
Running Rat/Big Muff pi into Origin...Wicked 70's hard rockin' tone...I ♡ it!!
thanks for another great review, think i liked the dsl best, it just sound a lot clearer and defined, and the origins cleans sounded very bass heavy, like Marshall's often do i suppose ,i'd love to hear them both with a les paul though, but hey, i know your a tele man at heart.
I think the origin will cut better in a band mix. A little brighter. Both sounds good, great job😎
Tore Knutsen that was my thought too. It also had that high end sizzle that I recognize from older Marshall’s. At least that’s on my iPhone buds.
LOL! Says it all!
Jeez man haven't u heard of EQ. U can make the DSL sound brighter. Ur better off having a pleasing fat sweet sound which most ears prefer and also having the option of making it more trebly mon.
I own the Marshall DSL 100 HR. I'm considering adding the Origin 50 Head to my rig. Still on the fence about it though. Appreciate your review and shootout Shane.
I have a DSL 401. An original DSL model the newer DSL's are a bit more lower end sounding. That said. I'm still rockin' the Origin in this video. Both sound like a Marshall both sound great. Thank You for sharing this video. much apreiciated!
Interesting comparison Shane. What was most surprising to me was that I was listening in a busy room with people talking around me and every time you played the Origin it cut through so much clearer and sweet!. Might be the reason I've sold every dsl I've owned. Great alone, not good in a band.
Hi Jane! you have to try the old Marshall haze 40c. Good Old school sounds.
Was about to pull the trigger on the origin... After this it'll be definitely be the DSL!
My first impression on the clean was that the DSL had a cleaner tone with more lows and highs but compared to the Origin it sounded a bit mid scooped. The origin had more of a VOX type mid push and had more edge of breakup clean. As you introduced more crunch I felt the same EQ characteristics and the harmonic content was a bit different. The DSL seemed to have less complex harmonic content whereas the Origin seems a bit richer in harmonic content and a little bit muddier too. Overall I’d probably go with the DSL for the pristine chimey cleans and maybe just add eq to get the mids up.
To my ears, dsl=darker, fatter. Origin=thinner, more break up. I wonder if dsl could be eq'd to get closer to Origin, but hard to go other direction on Origin. Hard to beat dsl versatility, tbs. Great vids Shane. Thanks!
I think so. I have both the DSL20 head and the Origin 20 head. I can make the DSL sound like the Origin but I cannot make the Origin sound like the DSL. The previous description of the DSL having a broader range and better lows and low mids is spot on. That's been my finding as well.
Jeff, I have a dsl40c and really like it. I'll mess with settings to see how Origin like I can get! 😁
I found it fairly easy on the green channel by cutting the bass way down, and bringing the presence up, gain on about 10 o'clock. It really thins out the otherwise gloriously fat DSL tone to sound like the Origin. LOL
Let me know if your findings are similar
Jeff Fletcher will do! Thanks for the tip!
Took the words out of my mouth. The Origin sounded thin to me as well.
I just bought the Origin and a Telecaster. Enjoying it. Can’t do everything, but that’s ok. Plenty of fun to be had.
They’re both great sounding amps, but I love the clarity of the DSL.
The DSL 40's are such great sounding and versatile amps I can't imagine anyone being disappointed in one. They're basically JCM800's with some upgraded functionality.
El. Del. De. 40. No. Existe. Contra. El. Marshall. Original. Que. Es. Una. Copia. Del. Super. Lead. Repito. Dale. No. EXISTE
Quise. Decir. Que. Que. Dale. De. 40. No. Existe. Con. El. Marshall. Combo. Porque. Es. El. Super. Lead. Modelo. Combo. Original. Británico. De. Los. 70. Repito. El. Del. No. EXISTE
I used to own an old Marshall Plexi head in high school, the Origin reminds me of that sound. I think that's what Marshall was shooting for.
same as...I owned a Plexi 50 way back early 80s and just got the Origin 50, plugged it in and yeah, it's very like the Plexi.
Nice job, very useful videos you're doing. It's exactly what I what to see. Do you have a preference for 7.25 radius necks? I believe you changed the frets to bigger ones.
My crate GLX212 started giving me issues. A new DSL40CR is in route! Can't wait!
Love the single notes of the origin but the chords just turn to mud.
I canceled my origin 20 head order and ordered the dsl20 head (for $430 no less) should be here by Thursday. Instead of the sometime in June arrival of the origin. Thanks for the video. Saved me from the frustrating time I would have spent with the origin.
With the way you play, I think the CR sounds much better for your needs, I'd like to hear how an origin sounds with a v-type speaker. I'm an amp reverb guy so the origin wouldn't be my choice either. I know you can get great pedal verbs these days, but I prefer it in the amp. Great comparison, well done Shane!
I just got a origin last week an amazing amp vintage classic rock sound it's got it all
DSL 40 all day long, I own one and use it to gig with every week. Very versatile amp and it takes pedals well. I could see why some people would like the Origin 50, just a matter of preference though.
Thank you for the video - great comparison. As I got my Fender Blues Deluxe and am looking for a "companion" amp to go along with it - this is one tough cookie to decide on :D I think I will do what's best in my opinion. Take two of my favorite guitars, sit down a store and plug into both - then figure things out from there. I wonder how they sound with a semi hollow like a Casino, 335 or Gretsch G5622T attached to them *ponders*....
So hard to say when not hearing them live but I can hear how the Origin might, maybe, stick out more in a band setting but the DSL just sounds creamier on my end. Both sound incredible but I'm still liking the DSL. Might be different in a gig environment like I said though. Great A/B Shane and very helpful as I'm currently looking closely at both of these. Thx!
So did you buy one, Buzz?
I’ve been running an Origin 50 full stack with a 1960a with 4 G12-75s and the bottom 4x12 loaded with two EV12Ls. It sounds plenty full and pushes surprisingly close to my Traynor Mkiii head.
Thanks for the awesome video - super useful. Do you put the pad on the Rode M3 when close miking?
thanks for the video mate
cheers
Really like the comparison. Would like like to hear both thru the same speaker.
Thanks.
Have to say I prefer the Origin, has that oldschool sound nailed with the wooly bottom end and the compression in the low mids where as the DSL is more open and full, more like a modern sounding amp.. Which I suppose is kinda the point, but I tend to prefer that oldschool sound.
I'm 50 years deep in the biz, and recently purchased a DSL to replace lugging a JCM900 half stack on smaller venues. Mated to my Strats and Teles, I'm pulling lots of fat tones in conjunction with my pedalboard, and the DSL is HELLA LOUD. As usual, Marshall is building real workhorses for the working players. One recommendation; if you're going to pack one, get a road case with wheels. These amps are surprisingly heavy for a single 12" speaker.
I recently purchased the Origin 50c, and love the amp so far. As others have pointed out - its intended to be "vintage" sounding. So if you are looking for modern sounds, then its not going to meet your expectations. It has a bright, mid-range punch that cuts through in a band situation really well. I don't use it for high gain - but more of a "pedal platform" that has great tone, and tons of headroom.
From my end and through my head phones the DSL 40 is way warmer, the Origin is a bit more snappier. The origin did sound great though!
Thanks for share... great job..great tones both...depend on yours needs...blesdingd
Thanks to your review. I just ordered a Origin
Grats for your video very good quality
I really loved both a lot. In a project studio i would want to own both. I think each does its own thing equally well. But if i had to pick one id go for the DSL
They are sooooo different! Both great to my years, I'd have them both if I could, to do different jobs.
I think it's in the mids for the DSL and the brightness in the Origin.
Love the video
That's the thing... They sounded different from each other, but they both sounded great!
The reverb enhances the DSL, it totally supports the Origin. I played both hoping the Origin would be the one to go home, but without reverb, it sounds like it's being smothered by a pillow. I wound up with the DSL head.
I tried both and ended up buying the DSL. The Origin doesn’t have the full gain stage the DSL has. I can hit so many sounds on my DSL. Origins not a bad amp, but if you want more gain, you need a pedal to drive it. I really like the Tone Sculpt on the DSL
Hi Shane. Great post as always. The DSL 40 CR Wins hands down. My 15 year old cousin wants to get the Origin. I'm going to suggest that he watch this so he can make an informed decision. IMO the DSL sounds much closer to an early 70's Marshall than the Origin.
Great vids love your honestly. Right I’ve got around £700 to spend on a valve amp, was looking at Marshall Origin 50combo or a Blackstar 60 stage Mark ll two speaker. Did have a Marshall MA50 combo loved it, at the minute got boss Katana 100. What would you go for?
Clean DSL sounds gorgeous
Found myself wondering if, with a bit of EQ tweaking, you couldn't get the Origin to sound a bit more like the DSL. Felt like the "tilt" control on the origin could have been backed off a bit to tame some of that fizzy top end. In all, I think I definitely preferred the DSL--it just sounded great every time you went to it. Thanks for another helpful demo!
They have different speakers too...
Hmm very interesting. In the Andertons demo and the GAK demo the Origin 20 and 50 sound quite good. Your DSL definitely sounds great in this video though. I'm going to have to try an Origin in person to see if I like them.
I prefer the Origin 50 for my style of playing. It is less versatile than the DSL40CR admittedly but it does that one style very well. I suspect tube rolling would do it a whole lot of good. It sounds thin stock but the potential is there. A Celestion Creamback 65 or AlNiCo Gold 50 may just be the ticket. I like the much rawer tone of the Origin 50. I am also a Les Paul player. Try the Origin 50 with the Les Paul, straight in, no pedals.
What style do you play ?
One thing that is important to me that you didn't touch on, is what amount of gain can you get on the Origin at a loudish- bedroom volume level?
Now I want to check out one of those Origins in person.
Shane , you made the right choice for sure..love the DSL as the origin sounds fizzy to me..aw.
The Origin sounds similar to the Blues Breaker. I'd pick it for it's vintage sound. Love it!
I like the "punch" of the origin...at higher volumes though I think the treble needs rolled off. I agree with some of the other comments that the origin would sound better in a band setting while the DSL may sound slightly better stand alone at higher volumes...overall for me I would go with the origin. Both are great amps though
I think you made the right purchase my man!!
Thanks dude, me too!
Ben Coombs the right choice journey is lifelong (literally)!
I have a DSL40C and I’m happy with it. I managed to get the limited edition Onecwith the vintage look.
I Loved you video about Peavey Bandit 112 red and I can see that you are testing Marshalls whith it on the background. I'm thinking in byuing the DLC40. Do You think its a huge step from the Bandit or may I stay whith bandit and spend this $$$ In a new guitar?
You made the right choice my friend!!
You made the right choice by far the dsl sounds so much sweeter plus it has reverb and channel switching. No brainer imo
Both sound pretty damned good. I think I like the fatness of the DSL a bit more, but the Origin might cut through the mix a bit better in a band situation. I could be very happy with either.
Dsl sounds great, I know you mentioned in another video the new dsl sounds better than the older ones... Great video would be comparing the new dsl versus the early 2000s models
I like the Origin 50 because it is sonically more articulating
I really want to like the origin, I love the looks but sonically it’s the dsl all the way. Great choice Shane.
Both sound terrific!
I played the origin 50 after playing an orange rocker 32. Then a fender 68 twin. I also own a box ac15 and a fender deluxe. The origin is a good amp. I hit some licks mid register and it’s got thick sustain that would sound great for blues. It also has a clean/dirty switch that makes a difference. I’m sure a speaker upgrade would improve sound, although it’s filled with some tubes that make it sound like an amp should. I’d add a reverb and tremolo if I designed it, but maybe that’s taking it to a higher price point. I guess I’d call it a low end blues breaker. In the world of 12’’ Tube amps it has a unique sound that I enjoyed.
I love my marshall tsl 60 jcm 2000 and the dsl sounds similar it's beautiful
Yeah they get a bit of a bad rap, I love mine and wouldn't swap it.
+Riley
Yeesh, I hated my TSL 60 and returned it.
I also hated my TCL 60, even swapped the speaker out for a vintage 30, and tried different valves. Just didn't work for me. Glad it did for you!
I have Both. I have the Origin 20, and the DSL 5 . The Origin is more organic like a vintage Plexi. The DSL is more gainy, and has that Buzzy cheap diode clipping tone. What I do to eliminate that Fizzy tone is drop the gain on the DSL to 9 o'clock, and drive it with an OCD, and open up the volume, and regulate the other volume on the OCD. Both of my amps are running into Marshall 4 x 12 1960 A Cabs. The Origin does not have the gain like the DSL, but with an good O/D pedal in front, Forgettabout it. Point I am making is, you can make all amps sound different with tweaking your amps bass, mid, and treble frequencies, by using OD pedals, different tubes, different cabs, etc. I can get the DSL to sound just like the Origin, but with much tweaking.
They both sound good. I own a DSL40C and a DSL100H and am very satisfied with them. The vintage look of the Origin series is the only thing that attracts me.