This is by far my favourite of the Origin series. If I was going to buy one, I'd buy this one! 😎 Sounds pretty wild! The next video coming up will compare the 50 to the DSL40CR from 2018. These videos were all shot the same day so apologies for the continued dark grey hoodie!
Thanks for the review, Shane! Can't wait for your comparison, It's definitely a good amp, but miles away from the DSL40CR in my opinion. And I also might be wrong, but this amp doesn't sound like any Marshall Plexi I ever heard.
Great Video Shane! Thank you for taking the time to do these videos! I am going to buy either the DSL40CR or the Origin 50C, so really want to see the comparison. I like blues as well, so surprised that the DSL40CR with all it's gain is your choice, so can't wait for your comparison video! Thank you again!!!!!
Sounds alright, thing I've found with all these amps in your demos is the speaker size is off, 5W needs 10 inch, 20W needs 12 inch and I think 50w should really be used with a 2x12. I'd probably consider the head versions for the 20 and 50 and avoid the 5 altogether
David Doss yeah I'm in a similar boat, thought it could be like a JTM45 but a bit cheaper and with some more versatile features but they just sound a bit underwhelming, it's disappointing
Love this amp! I got a high gain amp already! Going back to learn old blues rock from the 60s and 70s early Peter Green, bluesbreaker Clapton tones! Etc hopefully it capture that early UFO and thin lizzy tones
I have this amp and it doesn't sound like this in person. I don't think they work well for the higher gain and compressed sound that the DSL does. It's a lower gain amp. This amp is amazing for the edge of break-up to gritty sound. Keep the master and gain knobs between 10 and 2 o'clock depending on your guitar and where how dirty you want your sound, and then use the volume control on your amp to dial it in. If you need more gain, it takes fuzz and OD pedals very well. I also noticed you had the boost engaged for most of the demo. I would recommend people try this amp in person to see if it is right for them. It's not as versatile as the DSL; it does one thing, but it does it well.
Great demo Shane, I bought this amp for $400 in mint condition on a whim a few years back and love it, it's not going anywhere soon. The Origin is based more on the JTM 45, Bluesbreaker, Plexis' etc. Whereas the DSL is a more modern style amp, and it's great no doubt. May end up buying one of those as well down the road. The thing I love the most about the Origins 50c is the ability it to build your tone. Obviously, you can get gain tone by dimeing the amp etc., and using your volume and tone controls on the guitar. But it's also crystal clean as well, which I truly love. But throw a DOD 250, Boss BD-2 or a TS -9 in front and there's where the magic is revealed. Those who don't like to tinker, or have the confidence to do so, stay away as this amp is not a one-trick pony.
lol can you stop bragging about buying this amp for 400$? people might expect to buy it for that much and it just isn't gonna happen unless you have a generous friend. it's a great amp though, just got one myself..
Man, at 3:45 when you tested the "clean" and said "it still has a little hair so I will turn down the gain" it clearly shows that the gain boost is engaged (the pot is pushed). So how does it sound really clean?? Otherwise great videos Shane! Keep up the good work!
This amp is cool! I got a used OR50 head that had a modification where it stays on the 50W mode (which is fine with me) and this amp actually got me back into the Marshall scene as well! I love the presence and tilt controls are really awesome and responsive, and it takes pedals really well. What really shocked and sold me was how it can go from rip-roaring overdrive to really nice clean tones all with just the volume of the guitar. Most amps I tried could do this, but there was always a lot of noise that took away from the “cleaner” tone. This amp could retain a good volume, and retain some good tone as it cleaned up! This is definitely a good affordable “plexi” if you dial it in right, and I love this thing!
@@jasondeli Thought I was the only one who noticed this. To be fair though, on the foot switch there is the option to engage and disengage the boost so maybe he had it off on the foot switch
You do some of the best YT reviews and love your playing. Current day April 2024 I was ready to buy the Origin 20 new for $389 but I found a used Origin 50 for $439 USD, 30 more watts, 12" speaker, it's a no brainer!
When amps sounded like this it was the pinnacle of rock and roll, a ton of drive with good note definition. I have been playing since 1973 and still have my Marshall 100 watt master lead, I haven't played it for years cause it is SO LOUD. I might get one of these to play on the low setting. Thanks for the video.
I would love to see a shootout between the DSL40CR and the Origin50. I’m stuck between the two. I just have no need for the Ultragain or a crappy reverb, but I love fat vintage tones.
I'd like to see a shootout. And please include how the DSL 40 and Origin 50 compare tonewise at lower bedroom type volumes. Some of use don't get to play loud often but want the flexibility if it's possible. Great series, Makes me wonder if a Origin 20 head would be the best compromise for quiet and loud if you already have a 12" combo or cab.
Yep, a Origin Vs DSL shootout would be an interesting video.... maybe even throw the Blues deluxe in to make it a 3 cornered battle... A 3 x +40W combo challenge
Great Vid Shane! Yes I’d really like to see and hear the DSL40CR and Origin 50 Shoot Out because I’ve been waiting for these to come out and Chechen out the difference between them. Keep up the Good Work man!!
Absolutely, please do the shootout between the DSL40 CR and Origin 50. that's the video I'm personally really looking forward to as I'm planning on getting one of these 2 amps. Would be most helpful Thanks
At 4:03 you're calling the sound "pristine clean". It's absolutely not, something is clipping...hard. Did you clip the input of your audio interface? That would explain the fizzy sound throughout the video. I've heard a lot of good sounds come from this amp in other videos, but here it just sounds awful.
They're pretty looking. Their sound isn't particularly good though. I've found all three to be fizzy. Maybe the head versions through a 2 or 4x12 would suit me. Honestly, it may just be the speakers they're using.
*TheVoxOfReason* i think it comes from the speaker i went to my local shop to hear how they sound in person, tried a 50 watt head into a 4x12 with greenbacks and had to take it home.. it sounded like everything I was hoping for and not this fizzy sound of any of the combos !!
Odd Berries, I obviously suspected as much. I keep a 4x12 cab I had Avatar build me almost 11 years ago now. Had it made with Vintage 30's and it seems like it would be just what the 20w or 50w needs.
I’m far from an expert but I think this amp has el34 tubes in it like a plexi. (which makes it have a lot of headroom). It’s not a high gain amp but it can go really loud.
This is definitely the best sounding out of the 3! I agree with you Shane, the DSL40 you got has a much more fuller sound, especially for blues of fusion! Great review again my friend!!!
I just scored two of the Origin 50 watt Combos. Ac/Dc strait out the box you can tell why they use the ol style Marshalls yer picking can take you from clean to full on Rock! and fx loop
Great review. I would really like to see the comparison between this and the dsl40c. It would also be cool to hear you go in to more detail about how the dsl suits your music more.
Would be great to see a comparison between the Origin 50 and the DSL. Also - does your demo / practice room have any sound proofing? You seem to do almost all your demos from home - how do you get away with all the noise? I’m sure a friendly monthly BBQ wouldn’t be quite enough to keep the neighbours happy...
Very good review of the series of origin amps, the 50 is excellent, you always do a great job of showing The products that you demo in a very honest and straightforward to fashion,
Hi I am asking because I am only now considering Origin, the video is new to me. The title says “redeeming the series?” but I watched the 20 video and I thought you pretty much liked it, even on the mid power setting. Is that not true? And then for fun with the 50 watt on 10 didn’t you need hearing protection? Sounds great but I wonder about the redeeming reference as I said thank you, cheers to melbourne!
+InTheBlues; Aloha, Shane! Some of the best demo vids on TH-cam are yours! A lifer metalhead, any amp can be a monster w/the right stomp boxes in front of it! I’m digging your Marshall reviews & THX for running that beastie at full volume to start. You give valuable volume management & this avoiding the ‘Spitting Bees’ syndrome! I’m posting these to my FBG, ‘Guitars & Get On With It’. You’re doing us a great service, man! 👍🤟🤙
If the DSL series had the Origins power attenuation, there wouldn't be an amp in that price range that would stand a chance. Glad I canceled my preorder of the Origin 20 combo. Great videos! Cheers!
Shane, be great to see a shootout between the Origin 50 and DSL. They've both got the same tube types, but I much prefer the DSL sound over the origin (and the cabs a little more compact). Although the origin 50 sounds way better than the 5+20W origin models.
The Origin series is based on the early JTM Marshall's i.e JTM 50 etc .. The tilt is supposed to simulate when you would chain both channels together on the 4 inputs turn one volume on channel to a certain level and turn the volume on the other channel to blend the sound you want.. The amps naturally based on their design had a little more hair on the gain.. You can nail some Jimi tone without a 100w plexi and pissing a few people off .. lol.. I really wished Marshall would have just continued their Class 5 series maybe made a Class 10,15,20 head and combo variants and speaker sizes. Maybe a low watt plexi with actual 4 inputs and two volumes using either EL34 or KT66, KT88 type tubes.. The lowest watt 'plexi' Marshall makes is the JTM45 which is around 36watts but not in the price range of what most people can just spend.. As always i enjoy your reviews Shane..!!
I have no idea but I read somebody said these were based off of the "2061"1974 X amplifier. That would explain it for me cuz I don't like the sound of that amp.
As far as the class 5 too bad everybody complain too much. It was 399 for a marshall made in the UK and people complained about little things. So they stopped making them they didn't want to bothered
I'm impressed with the sound of this one for sure. I thought this sounded more "open" than the usual EL34 Marshall thing ,and you did say it sounded less compressed than your DSL40... I wonder if it could be coaxed into Hi-Watt "Live at Leeds" territory 👍😉🎸
From Leo: Thanks for the review. I cannot find any sound from the Origin amps that would warrant replacing my old, beat up ValveKing 50. The noise floor is really sad, Bugera does better performance than that. If they were designed and priced at entry level, I could see the lesser product. For the price I think Marshall comes up short on the origin series.
Shane, I have the DSL40C. I'm not impressed with any of the Origin series I've tried in local shops. Just me, I feel that the DSL40 has what I would call a Thicker Heavy sound not muddy just more mass if that makes any sense. I hit my favorite shop when they first opened and the manager didn't mind if I blasted the Origin with only us there. He and I agreed that the DSL 40C seems to move more air even with the same size speaker. Again just my personal opinion. I'd be very interested in your opinion since you have had access to both.
Hey mate, got to do the comparison to the DSL. Just to let you know, I played the origin 20 head with a 2x12 loaded with a couple of celestion V30's last week. Got a much nicer sound. But I still think your DSL sounds better anyway. Something I can say with certainty though, I never realized how much difference a different sort of speaker makes until recently. I bought a custom shop fender deluxe with a celestion blue in it, and it's only 12 watts. It's as loud as a great 30 watt valve amp I have, and way louder than my blues junior. I couldn't believe it. Hope you do that comparison, Cheers.
Thanks for the great review Shane when you first started started ripping with boost and gain the beginning is that straight in the amp or have you get that going through a pedal? Also if you guys said they don't retest a little but when they played it through a 412 with some greenbacks that took care of that. Could be they just match the ohmage different too. Are used to build cabinets with brand new Sebastian's I was using a lot of the G 12 8° when they came out. I don't think there is a such thing as a bad sounding Celestion they are top-of-the-line. I bought out sold cabinets the Yamaha and he was telling me about Eminence which they make a good lower price speaker but the thing about suggestions as they've been around forever and they're like blow poop I've never seen anybody blow one. I love this stuff 👍👍👍😂😃😀 I have a Kerry king White Marshall stack but I need something to carry around in for the bedroom I even thought 2 of these would be great as a small monitor or front speaker system etc.
This sounds a lot better than the Origin 20 I bought. This sounds good. There is still something harsh about the top end though. I wonder if a tube swap would fix that? I bet someone comes up with a mod that makes these amps sound as good as we all expected
I have the same amp: 50 Origin Combo. The sound in this video is a bit fizzy vs the Andertons video and my own amp. The amp in the Andertons video is much warmer. I noticed the mic placement is very different and not sure if that is part of the difference. In this video the mic is on the edge/rim of the speaker and in the Andertons video it is just off of the center. I determined this from checking the location of my speaker in my combo. I am a novice and only pointing out the placement difference and not sure if that would make a large difference in tone.
Sounds ok. Your dsl sounded better to me. You should try the xvive golden brownie pedal. Marshall in a box pedal and only 60 dollars USA. I think people would like a review of it.
In this price range I'm not convinced the quality of the combo housing is up to par. Take the 20 or 50W watt head and slam it through a quality 2x12 cab. I have a feeling that's the Marshall sound we want to hear. Edit: Picked up my Origin 20W head today. As I assumed the head through my 2x12 cab with vintage 30's sounds great. No fizz like this video. Not sure why it sounds fizzy here. Definitely not the amp to buy if you want all your distortion from the amp. I set it up with a nice crunch and hammered it with pedals for more gain. Job done.
Please do the dsl vs origin comparison. I have an older dsl 40 and I'm thinking about buying an origin 50 head to run through my 212 cab with v30s so a video will really help me to decide. Cheers
I think that there's that background noise because these are more like old plexi/jmp Marshalls, but not sure if that's the case? Old plexi's seems to be little noisy.
Hi again, when you say you play mostly blues based stuff can you share a couple of examples, or is it original stuff from your band that you like better on the DSL? To your ears and your opinion, do classic rock and pushed clean sound better between DSL v Origin? I can’t play them in person so I can get one and return it if it doesn’t work for me, but just opinions from good sources can help some, avoid the shipping and all.
Tried the Orgin 50 and the Orgin 20, took home the Orgin 20 combo, to me 20 it sounded better, like the punch of the 10 inch speaker. I play at home the 50 would be over kill in my situation.
Hmmm, my Origin 50 (Head) sounds NOTHING like this, even through a 1X12 (Fender HR Deluxe extension) cabinet. Mine is MUCH fuller, rounder, sounding like the Plexi's I grew up playing. So, I don't know WHAT is going on, with the one's you're demoing. :P If mine had sounded like any of those (THIN and FIZZY), I would never have even considered buying one. But, the head I got, sounds GREAT! I have a 2X12 Marshall cabinet, and a 4X12 1960A cabinet (Usually paired with my 100 Watt TSL). The Origin 50 head sounds great, through all of them. Is it a 100 Watt Hand Wired Plexi? NO! But, it's not 3 grand, either. However, it's a LOT closer, to one of those, than is indicated in these demo's. So, I'm really scratching my head, here, trying to figure out what's going on, with the amps you're demoing. I've watched your demo's of other gear, for quite some time, and usually enjoy them. And, while I don't think YOU did anything different, in your presentation, these "Origin" demos, were painful to hear! :( Hope it was just a "glitch" in the recording, or TH-cam sound???
Just bought the same amp and a brand new Les Paul standard 59 model from Nashville. I was wondering how to set the amp for a crunchier sound more like iron maiden or Judas Priest I use it for practice in a basement and there are three other members in the band, any words will be appreciated
Hi Shane. How about a review of the handwired series 1973x , 1974x , 1958x and the 1962 bluesbreaker. Good video once again mate; I think i like the handwired 18 watt and the bluesbreaker amps better. I guess those amps should be , they cost 3 - 4 times the price. jmho.. I have a Marshall JVM215C and it really is a "Monster". It's More like a plexi on 1st channel and a JCM 800 on steroids to melt your face off on the 2nd. LOUD. what!! Police won't even get through the front door..Just like that scene in "Next Movie" with "Cheech and Chong". lol. You won't need to overdrive this amp with a stomp pedal. Hope you try this series out, if you get a chance. All the best and keep the great content coming. tw.
.I too am a lefty and dropping 5000usd for a Les Paul, it's just too much $$....I have a gold top Grassroots MIJ L.P. for only $300 my buddy who owns a music store told me that the pups are PAF cpoy..love it...also have a couple of Agile L.P. copies
This might sound really weird for a comparison, but the two amps I’m considering buying are the Marshall origin 50 or the blues junior, i like them both and they’re not super similar so I’m trying to make my mind up but it’s so hard! Which would you recommend as my first valve amp?
Marshall Origin. Hands down. Never felt the blues jr was a good amp. I had 2 and without modifications it was flat. The Marshall is sweet from the beginning.
Now that I'm not buying the Origin... this goes out to all. Has anyone played/owned the Vox Handwired amps? Any thoughts? I was thinking about one of the smaller ones; either the AC4W Handwired or AC15W Handwired. Thanks in advance!
A huge improvement over the Origin 5!!!! By far the best out of the three amps, however as James Addison described in an earlier comment, all of these Origin amps sound fizzy when cranked up. For me, I would stick to what I have or at least the DSL. I would like to see a comparison between the DSL and the Origin just confirm what I heard. All this hype for a disappointing product! In Shane we Trust!!!😆😆 Cheers!!!🎸🤘🏽🤙🏾👍🏽
Can see why Marshall avoided demoing the 5 watt at NAMM.. Honestly none of the current demos sound anything like the 20 watt demoed from the show? Not that it was stellar but it also doesn't sound like the actual production models... In that price point I think there are better options out there to be had!
I was so excited for this series of amps and Marshall finally listened to what people were asking for, but I don’t think they delivered. Disappointing.
Im sure that "fizzines " in tone will go away as soon the new amp gets played thoroughly and the speaker breaks in, thats always my experience with New amps .
thank you shane! i am a bit disapointed with the whole origin series (5, 20 and now the 50). The amps look fantastic and very old school but the sound ...meehh ;) I think the new DSL's are much more versatile and sounds fuller and less fizzy... greetings ;)
Hi folks !!!got an origin 50 c and hitherto am not satisfied with my settings for a blues rock sound (clean tone with pedals)!!!could you please give us examples of your settings ( tilt, presence, bass, trebble , mid ,gain and volume )to help me improving my tone?alain
I am trying to figure out how you can play at volume=10 at 2 feet from amp? I have a Code 50 with volume=4 and Gain=3 at 5 feet, and it's on the verge of ear splitting. (Looking at getting a tube Origin, Studio, or DSL. Don't know which yet).
Shane I like your reviews, been a fan for a while. Idk these origin series are either a big disappointment or perhaps your trying to achieve a tone different to what I was expecting... I think the hype has kinda created a let down. Most people saying that they sound fizzy and thin I think were expecting an affordable jtm 45 made in Vietnam with power scaling. Thanks for your reviews and videos👍 ps now do us all a favour get your hands on a small watt ceriatone
Theres on thing i really love about the Marshall origin series. That being the Marshall label at the front. I dont know what it is about that logo but when you see it on any amp it makes it look great. Everything else is major disappointment to me.
Is it ok? Sounds broken!! Lol...I grew up on Marshalls back in the 70s and we would never bought one that sounded like that!! It would have gone straight to the repair shop to find out what was wrong with it!!! And no I'm not kidding!!!
James Addison Man! I just watched that video and I couldn’t tell the difference between the amps!!!! As a Hendrix fan, I’ve always wanted a 1959, but after listening to that, the Bugera 1960 is definitely an option!!
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This is by far my favourite of the Origin series. If I was going to buy one, I'd buy this one! 😎 Sounds pretty wild! The next video coming up will compare the 50 to the DSL40CR from 2018. These videos were all shot the same day so apologies for the continued dark grey hoodie!
intheblues SOLD!!! Love the way it gives that classic 60s 70s tone...plus that Texas hothouse sound...woohoo hoooo hooooo!!!!!
Thanks for the review, Shane! Can't wait for your comparison, It's definitely a good amp, but miles away from the DSL40CR in my opinion. And I also might be wrong, but this amp doesn't sound like any Marshall Plexi I ever heard.
Like to see new Marshall DSL vs. new Blackstar Club 40. My $ is on the Blackstar.
if everything’s the same, including the tubes, why do they sound different?
Great Video Shane! Thank you for taking the time to do these videos! I am going to buy either the DSL40CR or the Origin 50C, so really want to see the comparison. I like blues as well, so surprised that the DSL40CR with all it's gain is your choice, so can't wait for your comparison video! Thank you again!!!!!
Thanks for the review Shane! Also look forward to hearing Johan Segeborns’ review of this Marshall!
Johan will probably blow it up LOL
agreed!
Well, that was a tad insulting.
@@HorizonMelt agree, probably could’ve worded that a bit differently. Have been a long time fan of Shane’s work. Will edit comment, have a good one.
Sounds alright, thing I've found with all these amps in your demos is the speaker size is off, 5W needs 10 inch, 20W needs 12 inch and I think 50w should really be used with a 2x12. I'd probably consider the head versions for the 20 and 50 and avoid the 5 altogether
@Snip Snap I like your math, bro.
David Doss yeah I'm in a similar boat, thought it could be like a JTM45 but a bit cheaper and with some more versatile features but they just sound a bit underwhelming, it's disappointing
I see so many companies do this. How much cheaper can an 8” speaker be? The 5watt needs at least a 10”
Love this amp! I got a high gain amp already! Going back to learn old blues rock from the 60s and 70s early Peter Green, bluesbreaker Clapton tones! Etc hopefully it capture that early UFO and thin lizzy tones
I have this amp and it doesn't sound like this in person. I don't think they work well for the higher gain and compressed sound that the DSL does. It's a lower gain amp. This amp is amazing for the edge of break-up to gritty sound. Keep the master and gain knobs between 10 and 2 o'clock depending on your guitar and where how dirty you want your sound, and then use the volume control on your amp to dial it in. If you need more gain, it takes fuzz and OD pedals very well. I also noticed you had the boost engaged for most of the demo. I would recommend people try this amp in person to see if it is right for them. It's not as versatile as the DSL; it does one thing, but it does it well.
Great amp! I'm pleased that you used your Tele for some of this as that's what I'd be playing through it if I got one. Great vid, cheers :)
Great demo Shane, I bought this amp for $400 in mint condition on a whim a few years back and love it, it's not going anywhere soon.
The Origin is based more on the JTM 45, Bluesbreaker, Plexis' etc. Whereas the DSL is a more modern style amp, and it's great no doubt. May end up buying one of those as well down the road.
The thing I love the most about the Origins 50c is the ability it to build your tone.
Obviously, you can get gain tone by dimeing the amp etc., and using your volume and tone
controls on the guitar. But it's also crystal clean as well, which I truly love.
But throw a DOD 250, Boss BD-2 or a TS -9 in front and there's where the magic is revealed.
Those who don't like to tinker, or have the confidence to do so, stay away as this amp is not a one-trick pony.
lol can you stop bragging about buying this amp for 400$? people might expect to buy it for that much and it just isn't gonna happen unless you have a generous friend. it's a great amp though, just got one myself..
How can you play this at household volume with decent tone? I’m considering modding one for gain but curious how to play it stock without volume.
Man, at 3:45 when you tested the "clean" and said "it still has a little hair so I will turn down the gain" it clearly shows that the gain boost is engaged (the pot is pushed). So how does it sound really clean?? Otherwise great videos Shane! Keep up the good work!
This amp is cool! I got a used OR50 head that had a modification where it stays on the 50W mode (which is fine with me) and this amp actually got me back into the Marshall scene as well!
I love the presence and tilt controls are really awesome and responsive, and it takes pedals really well.
What really shocked and sold me was how it can go from rip-roaring overdrive to really nice clean tones all with just the volume of the guitar. Most amps I tried could do this, but there was always a lot of noise that took away from the “cleaner” tone. This amp could retain a good volume, and retain some good tone as it cleaned up!
This is definitely a good affordable “plexi” if you dial it in right, and I love this thing!
I actually like the fuzzy sound this amp is getting. Sounds good to me
When you were trying to get it clean in the beginning, you had the gain knob pulled out.
Agree you have the boost engaged when it's pulled out
@@jasondeli Thought I was the only one who noticed this. To be fair though, on the foot switch there is the option to engage and disengage the boost so maybe he had it off on the foot switch
Yep :)
You do some of the best YT reviews and love your playing. Current day April 2024 I was ready to buy the Origin 20 new for $389 but I found a used Origin 50 for $439 USD, 30 more watts, 12" speaker, it's a no brainer!
Thanks for the kind words! Nice stuff, I hope you dig the amp. :)
When amps sounded like this it was the pinnacle of rock and roll, a ton of drive with good note definition. I have been playing since 1973 and still have my Marshall 100 watt master lead, I haven't played it for years cause it is SO LOUD. I might get one of these to play on the low setting. Thanks for the video.
I would love to see a shootout between the DSL40CR and the Origin50. I’m stuck between the two. I just have no need for the Ultragain or a crappy reverb, but I love fat vintage tones.
I'd like to see a shootout. And please include how the DSL 40 and Origin 50 compare tonewise at lower bedroom type volumes. Some of use don't get to play loud often but want the flexibility if it's possible. Great series, Makes me wonder if a Origin 20 head would be the best compromise for quiet and loud if you already have a 12" combo or cab.
Yep, a Origin Vs DSL shootout would be an interesting video.... maybe even throw the Blues deluxe in to make it a 3 cornered battle... A 3 x +40W combo challenge
A video comparing the Origin and the Fender 68 custom deluxe would be cool! they seem to be similar territory of amp
Definitely want to see a shootout between the origin 50 and the dsl40. I agree the dsl40 does sound better and much more versatile
Has a cool old school fuzz sound going!
Great Vid Shane! Yes I’d really like to see and hear the DSL40CR and Origin 50 Shoot Out because I’ve been waiting for these to come out and Chechen out the difference between them. Keep up the Good Work man!!
Absolutely, please do the shootout between the DSL40 CR and Origin 50. that's the video I'm personally really looking forward to as I'm planning on getting one of these 2 amps. Would be most helpful Thanks
For me I’ll be doing 70s classic rock and blues/rock like early beano Clapton and Peter green stuff
Sounds buzzy to me. I found no soulful tones, nothing I would use with my guitars. Thanks for a thorough demo. Shane always does great videos! Thanks.
Nice sound and review Shane, you're the man. Love that PRS by the way.
At 4:03 you're calling the sound "pristine clean". It's absolutely not, something is clipping...hard. Did you clip the input of your audio interface? That would explain the fizzy sound throughout the video. I've heard a lot of good sounds come from this amp in other videos, but here it just sounds awful.
They're pretty looking. Their sound isn't particularly good though. I've found all three to be fizzy. Maybe the head versions through a 2 or 4x12 would suit me. Honestly, it may just be the speakers they're using.
*TheVoxOfReason* i think it comes from the speaker i went to my local shop to hear how they sound in person, tried a 50 watt head into a 4x12 with greenbacks and had to take it home.. it sounded like everything I was hoping for and not this fizzy sound of any of the combos !!
Odd Berries, I obviously suspected as much. I keep a 4x12 cab I had Avatar build me almost 11 years ago now. Had it made with Vintage 30's and it seems like it would be just what the 20w or 50w needs.
Great review Shane,as always! Yes! comparison between dsl and origin could be interesting and dsl vs blues deluxe too!
I’m far from an expert but I think this amp has el34 tubes in it like a plexi. (which makes it have a lot of headroom). It’s not a high gain amp but it can go really loud.
Yes I'd love to see a comparison video between this and the dsl
This is definitely the best sounding out of the 3! I agree with you Shane, the DSL40 you got has a much more fuller sound, especially for blues of fusion! Great review again my friend!!!
I just scored two of the Origin 50 watt Combos. Ac/Dc strait out the box you can tell why they use the ol style Marshalls yer picking can take you from clean to full on Rock! and fx loop
Great review. I would really like to see the comparison between this and the dsl40c. It would also be cool to hear you go in to more detail about how the dsl suits your music more.
I use them together, Orig50 and DSL40. ;-) Great amps. Thanks for fantastic videos.
Would be great to see a comparison between the Origin 50 and the DSL. Also - does your demo / practice room have any sound proofing? You seem to do almost all your demos from home - how do you get away with all the noise? I’m sure a friendly monthly BBQ wouldn’t be quite enough to keep the neighbours happy...
Very good review of the series of origin amps, the 50 is excellent, you always do a great job of showing The products that you demo in a very honest and straightforward to fashion,
Great demo Shane, very honest appraisal. Be in interesting to compare this with a single channel plexi or similar- see if the vibe is similar.
The DSL40 is an awesome all around amp. I do like the Origin though.
Sounds great! Could that one be used for late night bedroom playing somehow?
Hi I am asking because I am only now considering Origin, the video is new to me. The title says “redeeming the series?” but I watched the 20 video and I thought you pretty much liked it, even on the mid power setting. Is that not true? And then for fun with the 50 watt on 10 didn’t you need hearing protection? Sounds great but I wonder about the redeeming reference as I said thank you, cheers to melbourne!
+InTheBlues; Aloha, Shane!
Some of the best demo vids on TH-cam are yours!
A lifer metalhead, any amp can be a monster w/the right stomp boxes in front of it! I’m digging your Marshall reviews & THX for running that beastie at full volume to start.
You give valuable volume management & this avoiding the
‘Spitting Bees’ syndrome!
I’m posting these to my FBG,
‘Guitars & Get On With It’.
You’re doing us a great service, man! 👍🤟🤙
If the DSL series had the Origins power attenuation, there wouldn't be an amp in that price range that would stand a chance. Glad I canceled my preorder of the Origin 20 combo. Great videos! Cheers!
Shane, be great to see a shootout between the Origin 50 and DSL. They've both got the same tube types, but I much prefer the DSL sound over the origin (and the cabs a little more compact). Although the origin 50 sounds way better than the 5+20W origin models.
The Origin series is based on the early JTM Marshall's i.e JTM 50 etc .. The tilt is supposed to simulate when you would chain both channels together on the 4 inputs turn one volume on channel to a certain level and turn the volume on the other channel to blend the sound you want.. The amps naturally based on their design had a little more hair on the gain.. You can nail some Jimi tone without a 100w plexi and pissing a few people off .. lol.. I really wished Marshall would have just continued their Class 5 series maybe made a Class 10,15,20 head and combo variants and speaker sizes. Maybe a low watt plexi with actual 4 inputs and two volumes using either EL34 or KT66, KT88 type tubes.. The lowest watt 'plexi' Marshall makes is the JTM45 which is around 36watts but not in the price range of what most people can just spend.. As always i enjoy your reviews Shane..!!
I have no idea but I read somebody said these were based off of the "2061"1974 X amplifier. That would explain it for me cuz I don't like the sound of that amp.
As far as the class 5 too bad everybody complain too much. It was 399 for a marshall made in the UK and people complained about little things. So they stopped making them they didn't want to bothered
ya it was a level up over the 5 and 20, but had a hint of fuzz that I didn't love. Oh well. :) .
Hi Shane...you gotta try the Friedman Dirty Shirley and/or Friedman Pink Taco PT 20.
I'm impressed with the sound of this one for sure. I thought this sounded more "open" than the usual EL34 Marshall thing ,and you did say it sounded less compressed than your DSL40... I wonder if it could be coaxed into Hi-Watt "Live at Leeds" territory 👍😉🎸
It's ok, but seems to have more of a FUZZ tone to its o/d compared to the DSL's much more signature Marshall crunch!
Shoot out for sure Shane!
From Leo: Thanks for the review. I cannot find any sound from the Origin amps that would warrant replacing my old, beat up ValveKing 50. The noise floor is really sad, Bugera does better performance than that. If they were designed and priced at entry level, I could see the lesser product. For the price I think Marshall comes up short on the origin series.
Shane, I have the DSL40C. I'm not impressed with any of the Origin series I've tried in local shops. Just me, I feel that the DSL40 has what I would call a Thicker Heavy sound not muddy just more mass if that makes any sense. I hit my favorite shop when they first opened and the manager didn't mind if I blasted the Origin with only us there. He and I agreed that the DSL 40C seems to move more air even with the same size speaker. Again just my personal opinion. I'd be very interested in your opinion since you have had access to both.
Sounds decent, but the DSL is better for options....OR, for would ya rather just stick with the Fender or your famous Peavey Bandit?? 😉🤙🏻
Through TH-cam, the 20c sounds smoother and the cleans sound cleaner. I don't know if this is true in person though.
Hey mate, got to do the comparison to the DSL. Just to let you know, I played the origin 20 head with a 2x12 loaded with a couple of celestion V30's last week. Got a much nicer sound. But I still think your DSL sounds better anyway. Something I can say with certainty though, I never realized how much difference a different sort of speaker makes until recently. I bought a custom shop fender deluxe with a celestion blue in it, and it's only 12 watts. It's as loud as a great 30 watt valve amp I have, and way louder than my blues junior. I couldn't believe it. Hope you do that comparison, Cheers.
Thanks for the great review Shane when you first started started ripping with boost and gain the beginning is that straight in the amp or have you get that going through a pedal? Also if you guys said they don't retest a little but when they played it through a 412 with some greenbacks that took care of that. Could be they just match the ohmage different too. Are used to build cabinets with brand new Sebastian's I was using a lot of the G 12 8° when they came out. I don't think there is a such thing as a bad sounding Celestion they are top-of-the-line. I bought out sold cabinets the Yamaha and he was telling me about Eminence which they make a good lower price speaker but the thing about suggestions as they've been around forever and they're like blow poop I've never seen anybody blow one. I love this stuff 👍👍👍😂😃😀 I have a Kerry king White Marshall stack but I need something to carry around in for the bedroom I even thought 2 of these would be great as a small monitor or front speaker system etc.
This sounds a lot better than the Origin 20 I bought. This sounds good. There is still something harsh about the top end though. I wonder if a tube swap would fix that? I bet someone comes up with a mod that makes these amps sound as good as we all expected
I have the same amp: 50 Origin Combo. The sound in this video is a bit fizzy vs the Andertons video and my own amp. The amp in the Andertons video is much warmer. I noticed the mic placement is very different and not sure if that is part of the difference. In this video the mic is on the edge/rim of the speaker and in the Andertons video it is just off of the center. I determined this from checking the location of my speaker in my combo. I am a novice and only pointing out the placement difference and not sure if that would make a large difference in tone.
would love a comparison with the DSL
Interesting to hear the 50c compared to the 20h with a 212cab, I always feel bigger cabinet is better then more watts within reason.
Sounds ok. Your dsl sounded better to me. You should try the xvive golden brownie pedal. Marshall in a box pedal and only 60 dollars USA. I think people would like a review of it.
In this price range I'm not convinced the quality of the combo housing is up to par. Take the 20 or 50W watt head and slam it through a quality 2x12 cab. I have a feeling that's the Marshall sound we want to hear.
Edit: Picked up my Origin 20W head today. As I assumed the head through my 2x12 cab with vintage 30's sounds great. No fizz like this video. Not sure why it sounds fizzy here. Definitely not the amp to buy if you want all your distortion from the amp. I set it up with a nice crunch and hammered it with pedals for more gain. Job done.
Please do the dsl vs origin comparison. I have an older dsl 40 and I'm thinking about buying an origin 50 head to run through my 212 cab with v30s so a video will really help me to decide.
Cheers
I think that there's that background noise because these are more like old plexi/jmp Marshalls, but not sure if that's the case? Old plexi's seems to be little noisy.
Hi again, when you say you play mostly blues based stuff can you share a couple of examples, or is it original stuff from your band that you like better on the DSL? To your ears and your opinion, do classic rock and pushed clean sound better between DSL v Origin? I can’t play them in person so I can get one and return it if it doesn’t work for me, but just opinions from good sources can help some, avoid the shipping and all.
I really wanted to be excited about these
Tried the Orgin 50 and the Orgin 20, took home the Orgin 20 combo, to me 20 it sounded better, like the punch of the 10 inch speaker. I play at home the 50 would be over kill in my situation.
Hmmm, my Origin 50 (Head) sounds NOTHING like this, even through a 1X12 (Fender HR Deluxe extension) cabinet. Mine is MUCH fuller, rounder, sounding like the Plexi's I grew up playing. So, I don't know WHAT is going on, with the one's you're demoing. :P If mine had sounded like any of those (THIN and FIZZY), I would never have even considered buying one. But, the head I got, sounds GREAT! I have a 2X12 Marshall cabinet, and a 4X12 1960A cabinet (Usually paired with my 100 Watt TSL). The Origin 50 head sounds great, through all of them. Is it a 100 Watt Hand Wired Plexi? NO! But, it's not 3 grand, either. However, it's a LOT closer, to one of those, than is indicated in these demo's. So, I'm really scratching my head, here, trying to figure out what's going on, with the amps you're demoing. I've watched your demo's of other gear, for quite some time, and usually enjoy them. And, while I don't think YOU did anything different, in your presentation, these "Origin" demos, were painful to hear! :( Hope it was just a "glitch" in the recording, or TH-cam sound???
Just bought the same amp and a brand new Les Paul standard 59 model from Nashville. I was wondering how to set the amp for a crunchier sound more like iron maiden or Judas Priest I use it for practice in a basement and there are three other members in the band, any words will be appreciated
Fizzy cuz of the speaker in the combo......pair it with a Greenback or a Creamback and its sings. Also swap the pre amp tubes. Biiiiig difference
Hi Shane. How about a review of the handwired series 1973x , 1974x , 1958x and the 1962 bluesbreaker.
Good video once again mate; I think i like the handwired 18 watt and the bluesbreaker amps better. I guess those amps should be , they cost 3 - 4 times the price. jmho.. I have a Marshall JVM215C and it really is a "Monster". It's More like a plexi on 1st channel and a JCM 800 on steroids to melt your face off on the 2nd. LOUD. what!! Police won't even get through the front door..Just like that scene in "Next Movie" with "Cheech and Chong". lol. You won't need to overdrive this amp with a stomp pedal. Hope you try this series out, if you get a chance. All the best and keep the great content coming. tw.
.I too am a lefty and dropping 5000usd for a Les Paul, it's just too much $$....I have a gold top Grassroots MIJ L.P. for only $300 my buddy who owns a music store told me that the pups are PAF cpoy..love it...also have a couple of Agile L.P. copies
This might sound really weird for a comparison, but the two amps I’m considering buying are the Marshall origin 50 or the blues junior, i like them both and they’re not super similar so I’m trying to make my mind up but it’s so hard! Which would you recommend as my first valve amp?
Marshall Origin. Hands down. Never felt the blues jr was a good amp. I had 2 and without modifications it was flat. The Marshall is sweet from the beginning.
Now that I'm not buying the Origin... this goes out to all.
Has anyone played/owned the Vox Handwired amps? Any thoughts?
I was thinking about one of the smaller ones; either the AC4W Handwired or AC15W Handwired.
Thanks in advance!
A huge improvement over the Origin 5!!!! By far the best out of the three amps, however as James Addison described in an earlier comment, all of these Origin amps sound fizzy when cranked up. For me, I would stick to what I have or at least the DSL. I would like to see a comparison between the DSL and the Origin just confirm what I heard. All this hype for a disappointing product! In Shane we Trust!!!😆😆 Cheers!!!🎸🤘🏽🤙🏾👍🏽
Hey man. Which is louder, this or AC30? Just to get an idea, can’t crank all the way up at the store for sure...
Can see why Marshall avoided demoing the 5 watt at NAMM.. Honestly none of the current demos sound anything like the 20 watt demoed from the show? Not that it was stellar but it also doesn't sound like the actual production models... In that price point I think there are better options out there to be had!
Dang, I had 0 idea there were so many "Tone Masters".
i wonder if I missed it but did you talk about the type of amp? valve state solid state tube etc.?
tube!! ECC83 Preamp tubes, EL34 power tubes
I was so excited for this series of amps and Marshall finally listened to what people were asking for, but I don’t think they delivered. Disappointing.
You know you want that single channel beast in your arsenal...DONT LIE!!!
Can i plug in a quad cortex? nice video
Love this amp and the 20 watt
Hi Shane, You used to play fender super sonics, how do these stack up to the super sonic? I have the first gen non script super sonic 60.
Do you reckon it would it sound better with a different speaker? did you try it out with the two notes?
Im sure that "fizzines " in tone will go away as soon the new amp gets played thoroughly and the speaker breaks in, thats always my experience with New amps .
I just got this couple days ago and i hope the fizzines wouldn't be so bad.
I reckon the Joyo "British Sound" pedal into a PA sounds heaps better.
Is this just a dsl with different packaging? Cus my dsl .... sucks
thank you shane! i am a bit disapointed with the whole origin series (5, 20 and now the 50). The amps look fantastic and very old school but the sound ...meehh ;) I think the new DSL's are much more versatile and sounds fuller and less fizzy... greetings ;)
Definitely the best of the 3.
By putting in hot rails pups on you tele, can you spilt the coils??
Hi folks !!!got an origin 50 c and hitherto am not satisfied with my settings for a blues rock sound (clean tone with pedals)!!!could you please give us examples of your settings ( tilt, presence, bass, trebble , mid ,gain and volume )to help me improving my tone?alain
Where do these amps sit in the Marshall range?
I can’t get this amp to get Any fuzz or gain do I need to have the master dimed or relatively high
Are the clean tones loud?
How much is it brand new?
Are these replacing the DSL40C? Or totally different?
Check your local listings for prices. I have no idea where you live. These are a new series of amps not replacing the DSL range but as an option. :-)
intheblues Auckland New Zealand my friend, not that far from you
Almost in the same time zone
Eheh
I am trying to figure out how you can play at volume=10 at 2 feet from amp? I have a Code 50 with volume=4 and Gain=3 at 5 feet, and it's on the verge of ear splitting. (Looking at getting a tube Origin, Studio, or DSL. Don't know which yet).
Shane I like your reviews, been a fan for a while. Idk these origin series are either a big disappointment or perhaps your trying to achieve a tone different to what I was expecting... I think the hype has kinda created a let down. Most people saying that they sound fizzy and thin I think were expecting an affordable jtm 45 made in Vietnam with power scaling. Thanks for your reviews and videos👍 ps now do us all a favour get your hands on a small watt ceriatone
Isnt the DSL 40 CR twice as expensive as that Origin 50?
Same price
Guitar ocd. Thanks , I had it mixes up with another Marshall. In that case I didnt like the Origin at all.
I'm not that smart I had to Google it first. Google makes me sound smart. Lol
These sound very nice clean. To my ears they sound farty and fizzy when pushed.
yes do a comparison
Theres on thing i really love about the Marshall origin series. That being the Marshall label at the front. I dont know what it is about that logo but when you see it on any amp it makes it look great. Everything else is major disappointment to me.
Is it ok? Sounds broken!! Lol...I grew up on Marshalls back in the 70s and we would never bought one that sounded like that!! It would have gone straight to the repair shop to find out what was wrong with it!!! And no I'm not kidding!!!
Yea i ran 2- 100 plexi stacks early 70s i agree with Joe Bloggs here
Yeah...you probably weren't mic'ing them up and listening to them on TH-cam ffs....
@@AlexH8280 i would love to run a 100 watt plexi stack. i would also love $5,000+. so that's also a thing
Fizzy as fuk. I have felt pretty disappointed with the Origin series. All that hype...
Yep, sounds like a fuzz box.
That’s what I’m hearing when it breaks up, fizzy. A little annoying.
I would rather a Bugera 1960 head: th-cam.com/video/FWm1wRMUoso/w-d-xo.html
James Addison Man! I just watched that video and I couldn’t tell the difference between the amps!!!! As a Hendrix fan, I’ve always wanted a 1959, but after listening to that, the Bugera 1960 is definitely an option!!
I know right?? They are so worth it. Plus the one in the video is running stock Bugera tubes. Imagine it with Winged C's in the power section.