whats crazy to me is that we dont really see culturally impactful comedies at all anymore. After this run kevin hart/dwayne johnson/mcu comedy seems to be the only comedy we have now. There are plenty of reasons for this too. I remember watching Superbad in an absolutely packed theater (i had to sit on the walkway stairs) with everyone laughing their asses off. Even the movie Dodgeball was the same experience. A really good time for comedy.
Dude Superbad was the greatest movie experience I’ve ever had. My friends and I smoked a joint behind the movie theaters and the theater was absolutely packed. Everyone was laughing their asses off from beginning to end.
It's not viable anymore because somebody will find one joke offensive and then go on Twitter to rant about it and it'll cause a bunch of poeple to start bitching
Judd saved the R rated comedy in a lot of ways. Sure there were other films coming out like Super Troopers and Old School, but Judd really had a streak unlike anything else that both made people laugh and think a bit afterwards. Truly a unique talent.
@Some Guy ummm super troopers is a cult classic and a gem of a movie. Have you honestly watched the whole thing? If you have and if you weren't laughing through most of that movie then you REALLY need to lighten up dude.
Also he's talking about how Judd reestablished the R rated comedy and did it in his own way. He referenced super troopers and old school as being other comedy films from the early 2000s that did basically the same thing but again in their own style. Idk what you're so confused about, plus you're acting like these movies were decades apart. They were literally only like 3-5 years tops before Judd started gaining exposure. Not that far apart.
Its kind of depressing how hollywood is often afraid of R films and obsesses with not taking risks and sanitizes their films to aim for a soft PG13 for action, comedies, fantasy, scifi, and superhero films.
2008 was peak comedy for me. Step Brothers, Tropic Thunder, The Hangover, Pineapple Express - four of my most loved comedies ever were all from a single year.
He had a great run but sadly I haven’t been interested in anything he’s made for 8 years now. Last thing I watched was train wreck and somehow all the funny parts went to John Cena.
Just going through that filmography history and the impact it had is amazing. To think the people that watch this in theaters was a once in a lifetime opportunity that people didn't realize at the time.
I saw Knocked Up and Superbad in theaters and you knew those movies were special. I know Superbad got nothing to do with Judd really (like Forgetting Sarah Marshall doesn't and it's one of the best of the bunch) but Rogen have said that he actually wrote a lot more of 40 Year Old Virgin for example than what people would think. He just was a nobody at the time so you don't get the credit he maybe deserved but he got to be the next lead in Knocked Up so clearly Judd saw him as important even tho Seth's character in 40 Year Old isn't anything special so it sounds totally beleavable to me (Rogan was in Freaks and Geeks also but yeah I still beleave he wrote aaa lot of 40 Year Virgin). There was a lot of improvising going on too and it worked with those people at that time but it became kinda a trend and it defininetly didn't work as something to parrot as a method like hollywood did. Also the contributions for writing that Seth and possibly Jonah Hill did (those two used to write a lot together at the timeperiod) is just seen by how Judd Apatow cannot really put a movie together without having talented people to collabrate with. Say the Amy Schumer movie is very Schumer aka just plain bad in my opinion because Amy isn't funny and Judd Apatow can make things more like visually funny and put together an outline of a script but people like Sandler, Carrell and Rogen have to fill the thing you know for it to be funny. Zohan is funny but it is build around Sandler being the lead and his comedy isn't very grounded so the outline works and same is with Cable Guy and Carrey (altough at the time it was Carrey's most grounded movie haha). Then again when they made Funny People it's even more serious comedy than 40 Year Old or Knocked Up and it's a fine movie but nothing special, and I think it is exactly because the mood goes into so grounded and I think these guys didn't really improvise much for the feel of the drama comedy it was going for. So I think it's the most Apatow's own, him himself looking movie of the period. It even feels more like an outline as a movie, the idea had a lot of potential but it didn't do much. I beleave the earlier movies were with the same crew, but to those they had a chance to add way more into them. Sandler can do drama comedy, it's like evident already from 90's Punch Drunk Love but Funny People just feels like there is something missing in it. 50/50 was tonally the movie that Funny People tried to be.
I took a girl to see knocked up early afternoon showing so not a lot of people there. Probably like 10 total. I remember laughing my ass off the entire length of the movie, to the point of tears. At one moment I looked over to see if my date was enjoying it as much as I. The look on her face was priceless. It was a look of disgust, confusion, disappointment all mixed into one expression, and she was looking at me and my reactions, not the movie. I never went out with her again.
There's also only so many times you can do the "loser guy goes after a girl way out of his league" trope, and Seth Rogan's stoner bro bit wears thin after a while. Apatow struck while the iron was hot and took advantage of an opportunity-and did it well.
I don't like how Seth Rogan lectures us about what we \have to believe. He became a scold and that's NOT FUNNY. He lost his comedy bones to political correctness.
@@MicahMicahel same as rebel Wilson. although I never thought she was a comedian, just a woman who can deliver some lines & sound mildly amusing whilst doing so. but she lost her 'funny' when she lost her 'fat'. very politcally correct too.
One minor correction: Freaks and Geeks had excellent ratings until the network executives randomly decided to move it to a terrible time slot, which completely screwed them over. Other than that, great video!
The relative failure of Funny People baffled me when it came out. It was one of Sandler's best roles, arguably Apatow's most personal story, and it had gobbs of star power, not to mention it came out at the time when stand up was starting to really proliferate in the mainstream because of youtube, netlfix, and social media. I truly think marketing fucked that movie by trying to make it look like another chug comedy, which is wasn't, and when people saw it and didn't get what they were advertised, they called it bad.
right Funny people is my favorite Judd Aptow film and Adam Sandler is a big influence to him they both bring their colleagues and friends along and Adam's childhood friend is made a consultant on each of his films because when they grew up he let him stay with him when he was failing as a comedian in the 80s so no matter what his childhood friend is financially taken care of for just being a good friend when Adam needed it its messed up both of them get ripped for NOT being selfish and not forgetting about those who put them on
Apatow got popular by doing “smarter” (even if dumb) comedy that caters to a different audience that typically would never want to watch another Adam Sandler movie ever again.
@@MyBiPolarBearMax It's true, ironically Apatow's early fans thought they were watching the subversive response to the Sandler comedies of the 90's and early 00's, when the truth is they were watching a student and fan of those films make his own version of them. Talladega Nights is our generation's Happy Gilmore.
I remember seeing Superbad in a fully packed theater stoned to the bone thinking I’ve never seen anything like this before in a comedy. I don’t think I ever laughed that hard at a movie and couldn’t believe what I was hearing. It was a way funnier version of how me and my friends actually talked to each other in high school. Kind of a wow moment that a movie is made with my sense of humor.
Saw pineapple express in theater. Showed up baked, the theater itself got hot boxed (grand lake! 🤙🏾) by the time they were eating waffles I laughed so hard I legitimately fell out of my chair. Seeing these movies the first time was an experience
The problem is that it evolved into being less funny. His latest Netflix movie is the worst thing he's ever made. This is 40 was probably his last good movie, and that was a decade ago.
I loved it first time I watched it but it doesn't hold up to rewatching imo. People mainly hold onto their nostalgia for it and the time it came out over the actual quality.
This video suddenly made me realize that this era really is gone and I didn’t even notice. Superbad suddenly seems so long ago now. One of the greatest raunchy comedies ever
I watched this is 40 a few weeks ago. I thought it was terrible before but now that I'm almost 40 with hubby and kids I saw it in a different light. I cracked up so much because it actually is relatable and spot on.
I should give it another try I think. I'm only 30 though. But I found the actress in it so whiny. In other movies she's the same. So whiny. It annoys me. Buy who knows. Maybe I can learn to look past it.
some of it is time specific. Sandler is talking about being ben x as opposed to millennial a lot in the movie. Maybe it's more relevant now , come to think of it. That bit about how seth will never be funny because he was pampered.
Honestly, and I promise this isn't a rant on the culture wars, I don't really think "raunchy" comedy has a place in the current entertainment climate. It seems like people are increasingly gravitating to humor that's very premise-based, character-driven, super meta, topical, and informed by trauma, existentialism, and multidimensional excess. That's not what I'm into and I don't begrudge anyone their interests, I just wish there was a place for dumb, earnest comedies about working-class people just trying to exist. They don't make many of those anymore.
Seeing apatow as only raunchy is missing a lot of it, I remember thinking it was new (it's much more common now) that the 40 year old virgin and knocked up had other movies/shows playing and being referenced in the background
You have a point it’s popularity has seemed to shift in the past couple of years. Like raunchy comedies just can’t be raunchy they have to have something attached to it. I just think it’s the changing of the guard and maybe it’ll one day have it’s time again but there’s no lack of shortage of it there’s plenty out there especially in tv.
It was clear to me that Judd Appatow reached an "ok, I've done enough, now to make a movie it's more a hangout than a job" when he made that superb documentary about Garry Shandling (curiously, also "The Godfather" of his time). I can't stress enough how much I recommend it.
Dude, I grew up on all these movies. Being the child of two parents that were always at work, I feel like this man had a big part I raising me. Watching this video makes it feel like I found out about a long lost dad.
“Bridesmaids” was in 2011 and was one of his most successful movies critically and financially. He also produced “Girls” which ran from 2012-2017 and was successful culturally and critically. Video should have been called. “Funny people” did so badly at the box office, I stopped paying attention to Judd Apatow.
Totally agree. The video creator totally underestimates how Apatow evolved after the Noughties: After some backlash regarding his fixation on manchilds, bros and boys trying to survive in the real world, he fastly integrated storylines about women and their insecurities (like getting older, losing their friends, being confronted with sexism, getting slut-shamed). Alongside Melissa McCarthy and Kristen Wiig he changed the role of female actors in the field. McCarthy is the best-paid actress today, which is a result of the shift ten years ago. Other than some guys here I don't think that people don't want to see "raunchy" stuff anymore ... isn't chappelle selling tickets as hell? I think Apatow faces just another problem: Comedies in general just haven't the cultural impact they had back then. Between joke-loaded, one-liner-blasting, callbacks-celebrating MCU-(etc.)-Blockbuster, the sincere and well-crafted comedy isn't wished for ... except it is like super-retromaniac (e.g. Ghostbusters).
I tried watching Funny People but it was so hard to get through because of the overlong runtime. I honestly never understand why Apatow needed his comedy films to be more than 2 hours, even some of the jokes felt so flat
@@KingGorilla1 Yeah i thought this video was a little shallow, and oddly acting from a psychological pov as if nerdstalgic understands Judd Apatows psyche on any level. Like be fr the guy is still working a ton and very influential
Could it not just be that after decades of apatow’s brand of humour, people have moved on? And that younger generations have a totally different type of humour now?
I was 16 when I saw The 40 Year Old Virgin for the first time and I think that was the PERFECT point of time for the Apatow genre of comedies to come along and shape my sense of humor, along with my personality, for essentially the rest of my life. A lot of these movies are still among my most favorites of all time and I can honestly say that most of them still hold up. Without this genre of comedy, I would be an entirely different person.
I'm a similar age and I still feel like 40 Year Old Virgin is the best of this sub-genre. It's Judd's first film and there's so much care put in, despite it having a lot of immature humour. A huge amount of credit goes to Steve Carrell though. I'm not sure any actor of his generation is so good at both comedic and dramatic acting.
The King Of Staten Island is actually a really damn good film. The relationship between Bill Burr and Pete Davidson seems genuine and deeply understated
Okay so your comment confuses me. So I'm going to ask for some elaboration. Before funny people, he only directed knocked up and 40 yr old virgin. But he wrote and/or produced 6 other films. After funny people he's stuck to directing and producing all 6 films he's done in that period. Why would funny people be the turning point for you?
@@metin5408 yeah but I don't really understand why. He didn't really have many directing credits before that. And what specifically made him feel that way? What changed?
@@landonkirchner7062 Producer makes the final decisions of what’s going in the film. The director orchestrates that decision. Producer says “the protagonists have to kiss in the end” Director has to orchestrate that kiss scene; The shot, the build up, the acting etc. A producer is mostly useful in cash grab movies with a ton of sponsors the director has to keep track of or in the rare case of the MCU where the producer has to keep track of continuity with the director or in the very rare case like back to the future where the director and producer are in a complete creative sync to create something truly special and timeless.
I think Love was 50/50. I liked it for a few episodes then got super annoyed and couldn't continue - I feel that was more often the response I got from people when watching it. But I agree it was amazing for a lot of people!
I can't believe nerdstalgic didnt mention that Judd is a avid biden supporter. much more important on the grand scheme of things then ur little tv show. VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO
Man, I was a sophomore in high school when Anchormen came out and had no idea how good the new few years of comedies would be, and how quickly they would go away. Getting high with my friends and going to see his movies were some of my favorite memories from back then.
I’m having trouble understanding how This Is 40 isn’t potentially his MOST personal movie? Also in terms of “taking care of people’s careers” - how is that not exactly what he’s doing now? He finds young people he believes in, encourages them to write and produces their stuff. Girls, the big sick, crashing, trainwreck, etc. isn’t this the same thing he did with forgetting sarah Marshall, Superbad, Pineapple Express? Not trying to be a hater, this thesis that his path changed after Funny People just doesn’t really come together for me
40 Year Old Virgin was great because it was a lot deeper than I thought it was going to be. Steve Carrell alongside Paul Rudd, Jane Lynch and Romany Malco really carry this film. Knocked Up is overated and doesn't come close to the former.
40 Year Old Virgin is a classic and still works today. I know the humor surrounding virginity is outdated, but it really does prove that life isn't over at 40, that anyone can have a love life past their sexual peak as a human being.
It's a very deep and emotionally moving piece of film, the part where the guy from the office yells out Kelly Clarkson's name is the true pinnacle of humor. These jokes and pieces of art should be saved and acknowledged as the most deep pieces of humor ever written - quoted by some dumbsht.
@@gregoryporch8395 You slowly start to realise while watching the movie that, oh it's basically the exact same formula as Father of the Bride: Part II and Nine Months.
I know his comedy films took over in the 2000s, but… I’d say it’s more accurate to say that he continued the direction for comedy that National Lampoon started in the ‘70s. Doug Kenny paved the path for the type of comedy that propelled SNL and Judd Apatow forward. Y’all should do an episode on Doug Kenny if you haven’t already.
love the wannabe sob story in the beginning like... what? His whole life he was surrounded by stars.. his roommate was Adam Sandler.. his bf was Jim Carrey. People would kill for his background
@@HonkeyKong54 I agree. It's just disappointing that there's a constantly growing number of people who will never know how much fun these sort of movies were.
Judd really starts to relate to the struggles we all go through in marriage and you could tell he was evolving as the rest of us were. I was single when "Knocked Up" came out and married when "This is 40" came out. I went into both movies with different mind sets and I love them in their own ways.
40 year old Virgin is still one of my absolute favorite movies of all time. And I’m a huge movie buff. For my sense of humor, this movie was gold. I watch it every year. I also watched and was a huge fan of Freaks and Geeks back in the day. Superbad is also one of my favorites. As an older millennial, these movies and this era, were just elite!!
I was talking to my gf about comedy and how lately nothing has made me laugh out loud. We recently watched The Water Boy with Adam Sandler and I died of laughter.
I always really liked funny people. the biggest issue by far was the marketing they did for it. and Adam Sandler making another stupid movie right after funny people was kinda ironic
@@letsgoOs1002 so the drama then? Or because it felt autobiographical to you? I did not like it because I went in expecting a comedy, and I didn't find the film very funny. I only had 3 or 4 moments that made me smile all film.
SuperBad was perhaps the best theater experience Ive ever had. I was high as a kite, and I remember everyone yelling with laughter the whole time. At the line “Well the thing about my back is that it’s located on my cock”, my friend literally fell out of her chair laughing and everyone laughed at her falling over. It was a total chain reaction that led to everyone immediately becoming friends in the theater. Fking incredible movie
His 2000s films were pretty impactful to me because I was young at the time and my parents didn't let me watch them. I would hear about them from the internet and friends so they always seemed like some sort of forbidden fruit which tasted better when I finally got to see them
Freaks and geeks was such a great show. It really felt like a real show about high-school and not was a bunch of old wrinkly white dudes thought high-school should be.
Apatow once commented that the suits at NBC had absolutely no understanding of what public school and life in the Midwest were like. As a survivor of both I was really struck by that.
I used to love these movies, but I find them hardly tolerable anymore. (The sole exception is Walk Hard because it is so irreverent and is a spoof.) I tried to puzzle out why my feeling about the Apatow comedy shifted and I came to this - the Apatow characters are really quite narcissistic. In their desires and worldview, they are entirely self-interested. No one really believes in anything bigger than themselves. Most of the characters are in the entertainment industry. It's telling that his latest movie is called "The Bubble."
I got my fill of narcissistic main characters watching Seinfeld, and since then I've always struggled to really care about movies/shows like that. Whenever I see an Apatow movie or something like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia I laugh at the odd joke, but once the movie/episode is over I move on with my life and have no desire whatsoever to watch another. It feels hollow somehow, like a 2-minute sketch drawn out into a whole episode or movie, and these days I get as much entertainment out of most short comedic youtube videos as from an entire modern comedy, so I just don't really watch comedies anymore.
I think, as touched on a bit in the video, the cultural zeitgeist just sort of shifted. As times get more dire, and the target audience realizes that, people have to create a comedy that resonates. You've gotta adapt. I personally believe that comedy has never been better, and I grew up watching and still quote all the movies mentioned in this video. But I'm also really excited to see the way things are changing!
@@Snarl_Marx There's also the fact that comedy relies a lot on surprise, so it has to keep evolving or the punchlines will become too predictable to be funny. I'm in my thirties, and in recent years I find myself all too often predicting all too many jokes in modern comedies that are the equivalent of the movies I found absolutely hilarious in the 90s. I understand why younger people like them, but they're not breaking new ground, so to me they just feel tired and stale.
It really was an remains a special era of comedy and I’m happy I got to see nearly all of these films in the theater. Forgetting Sarah Marshall is still my favorite romantic comedy of all time.
Superbad is still one of my favourite comedy films. Also Freaks & Greeks was fantastic. It's a shame that it got cancelled, but that first season is still great though. Update: I've just started watching 'Undeclared' now, as I'd not even heard of this one before. I'm only a few episodes in, but I'm kind of loving it already. It's a shame it's another one that only got one season though.
I rewatched all of these recently just because Step Brothers was on TV one day, and they still hold up for me. I was in middle/highschool during all these movies and everyone could quote them like some quote the Bible. Still though, they have a universal appeal if you're willing to get gnarly with them
@@takima504 yep, watched it for the very first time after a major breakup. Really felt good to see a male character portraying the sort of pain I was feeling, in both serious and ridiculous manner. Also shows how you can overcome breakups and move on.
Walk Hard is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. Nobody references it anymore these days, but when I randomly see a "you don't want no part of this shit" quote I flip out
im only 23 but i grew up on Apatows films due to having older brothers. I still come back to them now, they’re comfort films even with me not being the target audience from initial viewing
4:40 "Humor in the 90's was pretty straight laced..." shows Paul Rubens in Mystery Men, which was hilarious, largely unscripted, improv heavy film. Someone was sleeping at the wheel with this clip.
I don't think this guy remembers the 90's, it's not like Judd started anything new in the 2000's, There's Something about Mary, American Pie, Scary Movie, Road Trip and Me, Myself and Irene were all hits before Judd got big.
@@BishopWalters12agreed, perhaps the twist Apatow gave it was making loser wimp stoner nerds (then later women) more prevalent, in the 90s they were still a punching bag (and women a funny but less sarcastic/more conventionally humorous object of desire) to some degree, plus the tons of sarcasm complementing then outweighing (then sadly doing away with) the funny Ace Ventura style gags, and the 80s nostalgia (90s people were scornful of the 80s to no end).
I can firmly say that 40 year old virgin, Superbad and forgetting Sarah Marshall were some of the best movies I’ve ever seen in theaters. I laughed so hard and the entire place was packed with people just dying laughing. There were multiple scenes in those movies where tears were pouring out of my face along with everyone else as the whole place erupted with laughter.
What’s this clickbait? For all of you who haven’t seen the video yet, there was no “inevitable downfall.” He just made it, and made everyone he loves successful. He’s now chilling in his later middle age, enjoying his family. Mad respect lost Nerdstalgic.
Also, you didn't really get into just how divisive those movies were, I can remember how mainstream critics often hated Apatow with a passion, and Knocked Up especially got a lot of flack from feminists and more serious filmmakers. I lived in NYC for a spell during this time and tried stand up, and all the more established people who thought of themselves as 'auteurs' would often talk about how much they despised Apatow for lazy writing and one dimensional characters. Not saying I agree or disagree, just saying, even at his height Apatow got a lot of pushback and that's also a big part of why the industry shifted away from this style of comedy
Thank you. A lot of ignoring context in this video. The truth is that Judd Apatow's movies never really appealed to anyone except young white guys with a fratboy sense of humor. And so it isn't a surprise that as audiences began to crave more diverse stories from different perspectives, Apatow's movies fell out of favour.
I was in my 20's in the 2000's. So that stuff was just absolutely amazing to me at the time. Friends and I watched EVERY single movie dozens of times. Now as I'm older, I like what his comedy has sort of matured into. People don't stay the same forever. I love the humor in The Bubble...So I guess my comedy is maturing right along with him? I'm ok with that :)
I think Superbad, despite being pretty popular, is still highly underrated. Its probably the last movie in a while that portrays high school life (at least in the early 2000s) in a very accurate manner. I know the film has goofy stuff in it, but the fact that the kids in the movie use the profanity that they do and have the same mindset as high schoolers back in 2006, 2007 as well as ending up in shady parties with a lot of drug use and alcohol, kinda goes a long way. Movies like "Good Boys" kinda drop the ball on trying to convey modern youth, while "8-Bit Christmas" really doesn't sell the whole 90s period kids thing.
I don't understand how you can consider Superbad underrated. It was a massive hit and a huge part of pop culture at the time. If you ask people to name the last great R rated comedies no doubt you will get a few people saying Superbad.
@@faz1483 it's 100 per cent overrated if you ask me. It was just a stupid teen comedy with a modern day setting I didn't laugh at all while I watched it but I loved Pineapple express
@@faz1483 I feel it's popular for being generally funny and everything regarding Mclovin. In my opinion it should be acknowledged more for the reasons I listed.
It has the most realistic-feeling high-schooler characters and dialogue in anything I've ever seen, and for that alone I think it will always be a classic. I didn't watch it until I was in college, but when I did, I could've sworn the characters were all people I'd gone to school with.
That's the reason Funny People didn't work for me as well as it should have. It was two great short films with a miserable desert of boredom in the middle of them.
@@ohnobro1424 There's a difference between 'long' and 'meandering'. Knocked Up for example felt like it was forty minutes longer than 40 Year Old Virgin because of pacing. Rise of Skywalker felt like an hour longer than Force Awakens despite it only being about five minutes for the same reason.
In what way is this video about the downfall of Judd Apatow? You ended the video by saying he's one of richest producers around with an amazing resume, but we'll see what happens?
I was expecting a video about how his work became stale once people realized that his one trick was pointing a camera at funny people and letting them riff, and then trying to edit a story together afterwards.
I love Funny People. I lost my mom shortly after it came out so it sat with me in a way that I could see would be upsetting to people not in active depression. That being said, now that I’m in a better place - I can’t imagine revisiting it. Still have love for it though. The emotion every apatow comedy radiates is what sets them apart from everything in that world. Really great video :)
Most of these movies I thought were funny in seventh grade. I think that’s the biggest take away from his style of comedy. It’s the stuff that 14 year old boys find funny. But after a while, a 40-year-old man making 13-year-old boy movies is old and sad
He got detached from normal people the longer he was rich and in Hollywood. At least this is what I got from “this is 40” - that’s not 40 for most people. But let’s be honest - his movies will be special for a generation of us.
something you didn't mention judd apatow does that i think is really important is his work in documentaries about legendary comedians. the zen diaries of garry shandling and the recent george carlin's american dream are well done and you can see the care that his team puts into producing these. i see it as his past of interviewing comedians and his love for comedy continuing through highlighting the comedians he admires who have since past. he had a very close relationship to shandling and it made his docs even more interesting. i think apatow taking a backseat and focusing on producing and helping newcomers find their voice, connections, and a wider audience is honestly the thing he should be doing right now
One of the things I loved about his movies was his dialogue. It was in precise, awkward, and inarticulate, which made more realistic and more funny. Comedy like his can't be made anymore because the movie industry is afraid of offending people and wants to appeal to everybody, which means movies these days don't have identities.
I'm really surprised to learn it wasn't well received. Appatow's films had always been very hit or miss for me, so I was pleasantly surprised by Funny People. I expected it to be the start of a new phase of his career. Like he'd proved he could make more meaningful films. There's no accounting for taste, I guess! 🤷♀️
my favorite Sandler role i think. it was very meta. the part where the girl rejects Rogan but then sleeps with Sandler(the famous guy) made me so uncomfortable but i was laughing the whole time. Kubrickesque imo
I can’t help but mention the complete absence of Black characters from his movies, aside from the occasional Craig Robinson. Of course I don’t EXPECT him to write such characters, but as a kid I was discouraged to know a Black girl such as myself could never exist in the hilarious universe he created. Also, Apatow tweeting that Will Smith’s slap “could’ve killed” Chris Rock was the nail in the coffin for me. What is Judd’s deal with Black people?
I’ve talked about this multiple times with my friends over the past few years. Asking them like what happen to comedy movies? I haven’t seen a comedy movie recently that has stuck and lasted the test of time. Like that era is gone, step brothers, Superbad, Pineapple Express, old school, the hangover. The last movie I can remember being somewhat similar to those other classics that came out kind of recently is The Interview and that got a big buzz because of who it was about. I feel like classics aren’t made anymore, movies come out and they’re old and dated by tomorrow but if like the 40 year old virgin comes on I’m watching it cause it’s still a good comedy. I’m glad to know it wasn’t just me thinking like WTF.
Funny people is my favourite Judd Apatow movie tbh. His take on fame, midlife crisis and love feels raw and real + Sandler and Rogen performances are amazing. Feels like marketing the movie as a comedy was the big mistake afterall
I just don’t understand this man. The people he chose to work with before were juggernauts. Then he started working with lena dunham, amy schumer and now pete davidson. Cmon dawg. This is carnage
I feel like a big problem, is that people like me still want the stoner, comedy bro comedies. We want all the profanity. But you just won’t find that anymore. People are scared to put that out because it probably won’t make as much $ as it would’ve 15-20 years ago
I like Judd and most of his film at the very least are good. My main critique is that almost all of his films are 20 to 25 minutes to long and usually have a totally unnecessary subplot (i.e.: Going to Las Vegas and spying on Paul Rudd in Knocked Up and Funny People are just very long). I can still live with this b/c his films are still pretty good or worth a watch for sure. Less The 40 Year Old Virgin I am not sure they 100% hold up years later, but they still seem basically rather good.
I always found his movie pretentious. Pretentious raunchy humor is an oxymoron. I wasn't a fan. Freeks and Geeks is one of my favorite shows of all time. His brand changed after that show failed and I think you can see him attempt to come back to it with funny people. I think he caved. You said it yourself, he was trying to scramble to help his friends.
I think Apatow handles drama/ dark humor perfectly but it’s that he puts to much trust into the actors as a whole. For instance when you look at train wreck or the king of Stanton island (great movies) there are certain scenes that go on for way to long hoping that the character say something funny even thought the tone/ joke is already established
@@methos-ey9nf I saw something about that, and he has a number of different jokes he's written for each scene. He films at least one take of the actors doing each line, then a few more takes of them adlibbing. After watching them all, he edits together the ones that he thinks work the best, and/or got the most laughs from those on set. Since the majority of the people he casts in his movies are comedians, they love it, and appreciate that he trusts them, and gives them enough space/time to put their own spin on the scene.
There's a reason why Tony Zhou (formerly of Every Frame a Painting) said that Apatow's movies "aren't movies; they're mostly a bunch of comedians flexing their improv skills".
@@theobuniel9643 God, that is/was a great channel. Stinks we were given so few videos. If you're interested, another fantastic one, that is criminally under appreciated, is "In Frame Out". Been putting out amazing videos for four-ish years, but has less than 20k subs. Also, "Jose" does some awesome retrospectives on popular sitcoms, ranging from the 80's-'10's. I haven't even seen some of them before, but still end up watching his hour plus long videos discussing them. I discovered some of my favorite content creators in the comment section of other channels, so thought I'd recommend them here.
The ending statement about how great it is that he can give daughters roles made me spit out my drink i hate shit like that but the way you acted like its great was hilarious
Did anybody even realize that he released a movie this year? Written and directed by him? It was really bad, but it’s kinda sad that nobody watched or talked about it.
I'm a little bit taken aback at how flippantly you're calling the Adam McKay movies Judd Apatow films. I get that he produced, and maybe they fit the style of that era, but McKay has a very notable vision all his own.
I feel like these character based comedies were inevitably going to burn out; sadly, ironic situational comedy is also dead, like the Zucker’s style of comedy: Airplane, Naked Gun. What’s left is basically commercializable action comedy , more or less. I think the new style of comedy will be a combination of Zucker and Apatow. 😏😉
I think it is just people needing something fresh, as opposed to it being dead as a total genre. As someone who grew up without having seen Airplane, and watching it just a few years back, I loved it. Hadn't seen that comedy style in so long and really felt fresh to me after all the same-y "one line zinger" comedy style of today
A problem I had with his movies, even when I was 12, was how his comedies were overstretched or couldn’t justify their runtime. Their third acts were very clumsy
this is how i felt leaving the theater after seeing funny people, you're spot on, the third act was way too long and too much of a departure from the rest of the movie
Knocked up seemed like a droll tepid plot that expects you to think Katherine Hegel a E! TV news gal will hoop up with a shlep & continue on.... even she could not support the film or JA.
whats crazy to me is that we dont really see culturally impactful comedies at all anymore. After this run kevin hart/dwayne johnson/mcu comedy seems to be the only comedy we have now. There are plenty of reasons for this too.
I remember watching Superbad in an absolutely packed theater (i had to sit on the walkway stairs) with everyone laughing their asses off. Even the movie Dodgeball was the same experience. A really good time for comedy.
MCU happened.
Communism happened
Damn I can’t imagine how it was like seeing Superbad in theaters.
Dude Superbad was the greatest movie experience I’ve ever had. My friends and I smoked a joint behind the movie theaters and the theater was absolutely packed. Everyone was laughing their asses off from beginning to end.
It's not viable anymore because somebody will find one joke offensive and then go on Twitter to rant about it and it'll cause a bunch of poeple to start bitching
Judd saved the R rated comedy in a lot of ways. Sure there were other films coming out like Super Troopers and Old School, but Judd really had a streak unlike anything else that both made people laugh and think a bit afterwards. Truly a unique talent.
@Some Guy ummm super troopers is a cult classic and a gem of a movie. Have you honestly watched the whole thing? If you have and if you weren't laughing through most of that movie then you REALLY need to lighten up dude.
Also he's talking about how Judd reestablished the R rated comedy and did it in his own way. He referenced super troopers and old school as being other comedy films from the early 2000s that did basically the same thing but again in their own style. Idk what you're so confused about, plus you're acting like these movies were decades apart. They were literally only like 3-5 years tops before Judd started gaining exposure. Not that far apart.
I wouldn't say he saved it. He extended its run but the R rated comedy is pretty much dead at the moment. At least in terms of theatrical releases.
Its kind of depressing how hollywood is often afraid of R films and obsesses with not taking risks and sanitizes their films to aim for a soft PG13 for action, comedies, fantasy, scifi, and superhero films.
why the hate for super troopers? it's not like it's Kevin Smith we're talking about. Zack and MIRI was basically a wanna be Judd Apatow movie
2008 was peak comedy for me. Step Brothers, Tropic Thunder, The Hangover, Pineapple Express - four of my most loved comedies ever were all from a single year.
Hangover was 2009
Forgetting Sarah Marshall also released in 2k8.
Yes Man was 2008.
Step Brothers is insanely funny
HIM is my favorite band
As a movie buff, Judd Apatow and his style will always have a special place in my heart. This man defined the 2000’s comedy genre.
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Him and Todd Phillips.
I didn’t realize it until later on it life but “Judd Apatow style comedy” became my favorite genre and still is
I love him so much. Knocked Up is one of my top 2 favorite comedies
He had a great run but sadly I haven’t been interested in anything he’s made for 8 years now. Last thing I watched was train wreck and somehow all the funny parts went to John Cena.
Just going through that filmography history and the impact it had is amazing. To think the people that watch this in theaters was a once in a lifetime opportunity that people didn't realize at the time.
Believe me, a lot of us did realize it. He's a favourite to a lot of comedy fans
I saw Knocked Up and Superbad in theaters and you knew those movies were special. I know Superbad got nothing to do with Judd really (like Forgetting Sarah Marshall doesn't and it's one of the best of the bunch) but Rogen have said that he actually wrote a lot more of 40 Year Old Virgin for example than what people would think. He just was a nobody at the time so you don't get the credit he maybe deserved but he got to be the next lead in Knocked Up so clearly Judd saw him as important even tho Seth's character in 40 Year Old isn't anything special so it sounds totally beleavable to me (Rogan was in Freaks and Geeks also but yeah I still beleave he wrote aaa lot of 40 Year Virgin). There was a lot of improvising going on too and it worked with those people at that time but it became kinda a trend and it defininetly didn't work as something to parrot as a method like hollywood did. Also the contributions for writing that Seth and possibly Jonah Hill did (those two used to write a lot together at the timeperiod) is just seen by how Judd Apatow cannot really put a movie together without having talented people to collabrate with. Say the Amy Schumer movie is very Schumer aka just plain bad in my opinion because Amy isn't funny and Judd Apatow can make things more like visually funny and put together an outline of a script but people like Sandler, Carrell and Rogen have to fill the thing you know for it to be funny.
Zohan is funny but it is build around Sandler being the lead and his comedy isn't very grounded so the outline works and same is with Cable Guy and Carrey (altough at the time it was Carrey's most grounded movie haha). Then again when they made Funny People it's even more serious comedy than 40 Year Old or Knocked Up and it's a fine movie but nothing special, and I think it is exactly because the mood goes into so grounded and I think these guys didn't really improvise much for the feel of the drama comedy it was going for. So I think it's the most Apatow's own, him himself looking movie of the period. It even feels more like an outline as a movie, the idea had a lot of potential but it didn't do much. I beleave the earlier movies were with the same crew, but to those they had a chance to add way more into them. Sandler can do drama comedy, it's like evident already from 90's Punch Drunk Love but Funny People just feels like there is something missing in it. 50/50 was tonally the movie that Funny People tried to be.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 Seth Rogen is a hack.
I took a girl to see knocked up early afternoon showing so not a lot of people there. Probably like 10 total. I remember laughing my ass off the entire length of the movie, to the point of tears. At one moment I looked over to see if my date was enjoying it as much as I. The look on her face was priceless. It was a look of disgust, confusion, disappointment all mixed into one expression, and she was looking at me and my reactions, not the movie. I never went out with her again.
I'll never forget coming home from Iraq and going to see the 40 year old virgin with my girlfriend, never laughed that much before
There's also only so many times you can do the "loser guy goes after a girl way out of his league" trope, and Seth Rogan's stoner bro bit wears thin after a while. Apatow struck while the iron was hot and took advantage of an opportunity-and did it well.
Good point, let's be honest nearly all Of Apatow movies are the same. It's the characters/ actors who played them that carried the movies
exactly! but that doesn't mean he's genius at movies. just that he's got good timing..... IMO....
I don't like how Seth Rogan lectures us about what we \have to believe. He became a scold and that's NOT FUNNY. He lost his comedy bones to political correctness.
@@MicahMicahel same as rebel Wilson. although I never thought she was a comedian, just a woman who can deliver some lines & sound mildly amusing whilst doing so. but she lost her 'funny' when she lost her 'fat'. very politcally correct too.
Yoo this comments a little too smart for a crowd like this
One minor correction: Freaks and Geeks had excellent ratings until the network executives randomly decided to move it to a terrible time slot, which completely screwed them over. Other than that, great video!
In the end he was a father who kept the family together and got to see his kids grow up and flourish on their own. It's a sweet ending actually
Something he could not experience when he was young
Larry Sanders HBO was nearly 30+ years ago! That's like trying to get Tina Fey to drag out 30 Rock. Show Biz trends, stars come & go.
The relative failure of Funny People baffled me when it came out. It was one of Sandler's best roles, arguably Apatow's most personal story, and it had gobbs of star power, not to mention it came out at the time when stand up was starting to really proliferate in the mainstream because of youtube, netlfix, and social media. I truly think marketing fucked that movie by trying to make it look like another chug comedy, which is wasn't, and when people saw it and didn't get what they were advertised, they called it bad.
right Funny people is my favorite Judd Aptow film
and Adam Sandler is a big influence to him they both bring their colleagues and friends along and Adam's childhood friend is made a consultant on each of his films because when they grew up he let him stay with him when he was failing as a comedian in the 80s so no matter what his childhood friend is financially taken care of for just being a good friend when Adam needed it
its messed up both of them get ripped for NOT being selfish and not forgetting about those who put them on
@@Chuck_EL Licky
Apatow got popular by doing “smarter” (even if dumb) comedy that caters to a different audience that typically would never want to watch another Adam Sandler movie ever again.
@@MyBiPolarBearMax It's true, ironically Apatow's early fans thought they were watching the subversive response to the Sandler comedies of the 90's and early 00's, when the truth is they were watching a student and fan of those films make his own version of them.
Talladega Nights is our generation's Happy Gilmore.
I didnt find it that interesting or funny. It was OK but not exactly the most involving watch to me
Freaks and geeks is Such a treasure I'm glad we got what we did from it. It sucks there won't be anything like it again
A reunion show would be awesome.
There will be.
Yeah definitely a gem from a time that can’t be recreated, Undeclared wasn’t too shabby either.
yea if we could ever get some collection with those final unreleased episodes that would be insane 🔥
@@Asimo9819 I think those eps are on the dvd box set/netflix etc
I remember seeing Superbad in a fully packed theater stoned to the bone thinking I’ve never seen anything like this before in a comedy. I don’t think I ever laughed that hard at a movie and couldn’t believe what I was hearing. It was a way funnier version of how me and my friends actually talked to each other in high school. Kind of a wow moment that a movie is made with my sense of humor.
I have to watch it stoned now 😂😂
Saw pineapple express in theater. Showed up baked, the theater itself got hot boxed (grand lake! 🤙🏾) by the time they were eating waffles I laughed so hard I legitimately fell out of my chair.
Seeing these movies the first time was an experience
Freaks and Geeks was absolutely underrated and literally every main character of that cast went on to be ridiculously talented stars
Since we were so used to seeing a certain style of Apatow's comedy, it makes sense that it would gradually evolve, just like anything.
I’m surprised he doesn’t do more Christopher Guest type shit
The problem is that it evolved into being less funny. His latest Netflix movie is the worst thing he's ever made. This is 40 was probably his last good movie, and that was a decade ago.
@@verkpunk Trainwreck was great because of everyone except him.
@@verkpunk but that movie was bang average!!
@@simplenough nah. there were no laughs....
Freaks and Geeks is still one of my favourites shows. He wasn't wrong, the viewers were.
*the lack of viewers
My gf rewatches Freaks and Geeks at least once or twice a year. Such a great show
I loved it first time I watched it but it doesn't hold up to rewatching imo. People mainly hold onto their nostalgia for it and the time it came out over the actual quality.
@@joechill9626 freaks and geeks is the greatest show cancelled after 1 season. The person that made that decision should be trampled by wild Buffalo.
@@brentandrew2419 Naw, I'm watching it for the first time now and it's truly a great show.
This video suddenly made me realize that this era really is gone and I didn’t even notice. Superbad suddenly seems so long ago now. One of the greatest raunchy comedies ever
I watched this is 40 a few weeks ago. I thought it was terrible before but now that I'm almost 40 with hubby and kids I saw it in a different light. I cracked up so much because it actually is relatable and spot on.
I should give it another try I think. I'm only 30 though. But I found the actress in it so whiny. In other movies she's the same. So whiny. It annoys me. Buy who knows. Maybe I can learn to look past it.
I'm 43 and I hated it. I guess me and my wife are doing something right because our marriage and family is nothing like that lol
some of it is time specific. Sandler is talking about being ben x as opposed to millennial a lot in the movie. Maybe it's more relevant now , come to think of it. That bit about how seth will never be funny because he was pampered.
JA & his business peers seemed big on having films, jobs where they could mug, fret through. It's no longer 2004 or 2009. 😏
God, laying it all out like that makes you really appreciate what a filmography this is.
Honestly, and I promise this isn't a rant on the culture wars, I don't really think "raunchy" comedy has a place in the current entertainment climate. It seems like people are increasingly gravitating to humor that's very premise-based, character-driven, super meta, topical, and informed by trauma, existentialism, and multidimensional excess.
That's not what I'm into and I don't begrudge anyone their interests, I just wish there was a place for dumb, earnest comedies about working-class people just trying to exist. They don't make many of those anymore.
Yeah, I can see it. Even comedies like the hangover really are the last of its kind for now. (Deadpool is R rated but leans into the new wave)
Seeing apatow as only raunchy is missing a lot of it, I remember thinking it was new (it's much more common now) that the 40 year old virgin and knocked up had other movies/shows playing and being referenced in the background
It’s not the culture, it’s ESG investing, it’s being made and foisted onto everyone without any care to what the people want
You have a point it’s popularity has seemed to shift in the past couple of years. Like raunchy comedies just can’t be raunchy they have to have something attached to it. I just think it’s the changing of the guard and maybe it’ll one day have it’s time again but there’s no lack of shortage of it there’s plenty out there especially in tv.
Raunchy comedies may not b in vogue anymore but it's ALL OVER reality TV and social media of course
It was clear to me that Judd Appatow reached an "ok, I've done enough, now to make a movie it's more a hangout than a job" when he made that superb documentary about Garry Shandling (curiously, also "The Godfather" of his time). I can't stress enough how much I recommend it.
He did another one about George Carlin that just came out and it's very very good.
@@ct6852 Bibb
@@matthewdaz6185 Fku
Dude, I grew up on all these movies. Being the child of two parents that were always at work, I feel like this man had a big part I raising me. Watching this video makes it feel like I found out about a long lost dad.
Never knew the man behind these 2000 classics. Thank you for educating us about the brilliant mind behind these masterpieces
Seth Rogen wrote Superbad when he was a teenager!
Its kinda nuts to think such a small group of people created so many iconic movies. Gonna have to go back rewatch some stuff i think.
His daughter is now starting in euphoria
His wife and kids are in a few of his movies too
“Bridesmaids” was in 2011 and was one of his most successful movies critically and financially. He also produced “Girls” which ran from 2012-2017 and was successful culturally and critically. Video should have been called. “Funny people” did so badly at the box office, I stopped paying attention to Judd Apatow.
Totally agree. The video creator totally underestimates how Apatow evolved after the Noughties: After some backlash regarding his fixation on manchilds, bros and boys trying to survive in the real world, he fastly integrated storylines about women and their insecurities (like getting older, losing their friends, being confronted with sexism, getting slut-shamed). Alongside Melissa McCarthy and Kristen Wiig he changed the role of female actors in the field. McCarthy is the best-paid actress today, which is a result of the shift ten years ago.
Other than some guys here I don't think that people don't want to see "raunchy" stuff anymore ... isn't chappelle selling tickets as hell?
I think Apatow faces just another problem: Comedies in general just haven't the cultural impact they had back then. Between joke-loaded, one-liner-blasting, callbacks-celebrating MCU-(etc.)-Blockbuster, the sincere and well-crafted comedy isn't wished for ... except it is like super-retromaniac (e.g. Ghostbusters).
I tried watching Funny People but it was so hard to get through because of the overlong runtime. I honestly never understand why Apatow needed his comedy films to be more than 2 hours, even some of the jokes felt so flat
@@KingGorilla1 Yeah i thought this video was a little shallow, and oddly acting from a psychological pov as if nerdstalgic understands Judd Apatows psyche on any level. Like be fr the guy is still working a ton and very influential
“Judd Appatow is gayer than isis”- Shane Gillis, dude sucks ass and has for well over a decade
@@leftenantthunderno one outside of brain dead morons laugh at Judd appatow atp
Could it not just be that after decades of apatow’s brand of humour, people have moved on? And that younger generations have a totally different type of humour now?
I feel like comedy just changed as his audience grew up. This is the End felt like the end of his era of comedy in Hollywood.
I wish it was as simple as that but Hollywood has fully embraced propaganda and marxism like so many other corporations.
Lol the movie title says it all....This is the end is a masterpiece.
I was 16 when I saw The 40 Year Old Virgin for the first time and I think that was the PERFECT point of time for the Apatow genre of comedies to come along and shape my sense of humor, along with my personality, for essentially the rest of my life.
A lot of these movies are still among my most favorites of all time and I can honestly say that most of them still hold up.
Without this genre of comedy, I would be an entirely different person.
I'm a similar age and I still feel like 40 Year Old Virgin is the best of this sub-genre. It's Judd's first film and there's so much care put in, despite it having a lot of immature humour. A huge amount of credit goes to Steve Carrell though. I'm not sure any actor of his generation is so good at both comedic and dramatic acting.
I CONCUR
when political correctness dies we get comedies back.
@@MicahMicahel people have been moaning about political correctness long before this film came out
I was 25 when 40 year old virgin came out... now I'm almost 45 and it's still hilarious
The King Of Staten Island is actually a really damn good film. The relationship between Bill Burr and Pete Davidson seems genuine and deeply understated
Freaks and Geeks definitely should've went at least 5 seasons!!! I watched all 18 episodes and it was a hidden gem!!!
After Funny People I’d say that Judd Apatow is better as a producer than as a director
Okay so your comment confuses me. So I'm going to ask for some elaboration.
Before funny people, he only directed knocked up and 40 yr old virgin. But he wrote and/or produced 6 other films.
After funny people he's stuck to directing and producing all 6 films he's done in that period.
Why would funny people be the turning point for you?
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 i think he meant after watching funny people he saw the producer side of apatow and preferred that over his directing
@@metin5408 yeah but I don't really understand why. He didn't really have many directing credits before that. And what specifically made him feel that way? What changed?
What's the difference between the two? Honest question
@@landonkirchner7062 Producer makes the final decisions of what’s going in the film.
The director orchestrates that decision.
Producer says “the protagonists have to kiss in the end”
Director has to orchestrate that kiss scene; The shot, the build up, the acting etc.
A producer is mostly useful in cash grab movies with a ton of sponsors the director has to keep track of or in the rare case of the MCU where the producer has to keep track of continuity with the director or in the very rare case like back to the future where the director and producer are in a complete creative sync to create something truly special and timeless.
I can't believe you didn't mention Love, that show is amazing, and is the perfect balance of his stoner humor, and a cynical but heartwarming charm
I think Love was 50/50. I liked it for a few episodes then got super annoyed and couldn't continue - I feel that was more often the response I got from people when watching it. But I agree it was amazing for a lot of people!
Hated that show, found the characters super annoying and unlikeable.
I can't believe nerdstalgic didnt mention that Judd is a avid biden supporter. much more important on the grand scheme of things then ur little tv show. VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO
@@EyeOfThePhi ... What? Vote blue? For cops?
@@Carloszavalalol omg no I hate cops u know that's not what I meant I'm a ally
Man, I was a sophomore in high school when Anchormen came out and had no idea how good the new few years of comedies would be, and how quickly they would go away. Getting high with my friends and going to see his movies were some of my favorite memories from back then.
I’m having trouble understanding how This Is 40 isn’t potentially his MOST personal movie?
Also in terms of “taking care of people’s careers” - how is that not exactly what he’s doing now? He finds young people he believes in, encourages them to write and produces their stuff. Girls, the big sick, crashing, trainwreck, etc. isn’t this the same thing he did with forgetting sarah Marshall, Superbad, Pineapple Express?
Not trying to be a hater, this thesis that his path changed after Funny People just doesn’t really come together for me
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40 Year Old Virgin was great because it was a lot deeper than I thought it was going to be.
Steve Carrell alongside Paul Rudd, Jane Lynch and Romany Malco really carry this film.
Knocked Up is overated and doesn't come close to the former.
40 Year Old Virgin is a classic and still works today. I know the humor surrounding virginity is outdated, but it really does prove that life isn't over at 40, that anyone can have a love life past their sexual peak as a human being.
@@millabasset1710 oh shit, 40 is past your sexual peak? damn I'm 43... that's depressing
It's a very deep and emotionally moving piece of film, the part where the guy from the office yells out Kelly Clarkson's name is the true pinnacle of humor. These jokes and pieces of art should be saved and acknowledged as the most deep pieces of humor ever written - quoted by some dumbsht.
Knocked Up was alright, but it seemed like a tired trope by the time I saw the first preview.
@@gregoryporch8395 You slowly start to realise while watching the movie that, oh it's basically the exact same formula as Father of the Bride: Part II and Nine Months.
I know his comedy films took over in the 2000s, but… I’d say it’s more accurate to say that he continued the direction for comedy that National Lampoon started in the ‘70s. Doug Kenny paved the path for the type of comedy that propelled SNL and Judd Apatow forward. Y’all should do an episode on Doug Kenny if you haven’t already.
love the wannabe sob story in the beginning like... what? His whole life he was surrounded by stars.. his roommate was Adam Sandler.. his bf was Jim Carrey. People would kill for his background
Comedy evolves a lot. What is funny now, may not be funny tomorrow.
This is painfully true when I rewatch a film I loved as a young adult that is now hated by social media.
Yeah, for a prominent example, asexual stereotyped jokes. Lots of asexuals (regardless of their romantic attraction) are displeased with those.
Devolved
If something is funny it's funny. Letting outside influence dictate what you can laugh at is pathetic
@@HonkeyKong54 I agree. It's just disappointing that there's a constantly growing number of people who will never know how much fun these sort of movies were.
I liked Funny People on release, but watching This is 40 cemented the idea to me that the 2000s magic and dominance was over.
This is 40 was hilarious
The last comedy movie I watched and actually enjoyed was Girls Trip which came out in 2017, since then comedy movies have been complete garbage
Judd really starts to relate to the struggles we all go through in marriage and you could tell he was evolving as the rest of us were. I was single when "Knocked Up" came out and married when "This is 40" came out. I went into both movies with different mind sets and I love them in their own ways.
Depends when you watch it in ‘life.’
Comedy about 40 yr old Virgin, yes. About 40 yr old married people with children, no.
40 year old Virgin is still one of my absolute favorite movies of all time. And I’m a huge movie buff. For my sense of humor, this movie was gold. I watch it every year. I also watched and was a huge fan of Freaks and Geeks back in the day. Superbad is also one of my favorites. As an older millennial, these movies and this era, were just elite!!
I was talking to my gf about comedy and how lately nothing has made me laugh out loud. We recently watched The Water Boy with Adam Sandler and I died of laughter.
Everyone who was 10-15 in the mid 2000's is cursed to experience laughter in a different way.
And by Cursed I mean Blessed.
I totally know what you mean. I miss the 2000s anything for a laugh/bro culture humor. Now we have to worry about offending everyone.
@@brentandrew2419 Woke culture will collapse on itself soon enough. Hang in there!
I was 20-25 in the mid 2000s. I still thought they were funny... of course I was immature for my age
@@shaunsteele8244same. Thought all these movies were funny as $hit!
I always really liked funny people. the biggest issue by far was the marketing they did for it. and Adam Sandler making another stupid movie right after funny people was kinda ironic
What kind of trailer house summarizes a whole movie in the trailer?
What did you enjoy about it? The drama or the comedy?
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 I liked that it was basically felt like a movie about Adam Sandler career.
@@letsgoOs1002 so the drama then? Or because it felt autobiographical to you?
I did not like it because I went in expecting a comedy, and I didn't find the film very funny. I only had 3 or 4 moments that made me smile all film.
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 that was the issue they marketed it as a funny movie and it is not at all
SuperBad was perhaps the best theater experience Ive ever had. I was high as a kite, and I remember everyone yelling with laughter the whole time. At the line “Well the thing about my back is that it’s located on my cock”, my friend literally fell out of her chair laughing and everyone laughed at her falling over. It was a total chain reaction that led to everyone immediately becoming friends in the theater.
Fking incredible movie
His 2000s films were pretty impactful to me because I was young at the time and my parents didn't let me watch them. I would hear about them from the internet and friends so they always seemed like some sort of forbidden fruit which tasted better when I finally got to see them
It's so funny how "Kelly Clarkson" is one of the most quoted lines in a movie ever lol I wonder how she feels about it 🤔
I'm sure she loves it. It's not like they are making fun of her.
@@faz1483 Yeah she seems like a good sport.
Freaks and geeks was such a great show. It really felt like a real show about high-school and not was a bunch of old wrinkly white dudes thought high-school should be.
Apatow once commented that the suits at NBC had absolutely no understanding of what public school and life in the Midwest were like. As a survivor of both I was really struck by that.
@@JP-ve7or for the suit at NBC, life doesn't exist outside NY or LA.
Old wrinkly white dudes? H wood is run by tribe members, and they're not white.
(((White)))
I don't know just from this little clip they were way bigger jerks than me and my friends and I was fairly popular.
I used to love these movies, but I find them hardly tolerable anymore. (The sole exception is Walk Hard because it is so irreverent and is a spoof.) I tried to puzzle out why my feeling about the Apatow comedy shifted and I came to this - the Apatow characters are really quite narcissistic. In their desires and worldview, they are entirely self-interested. No one really believes in anything bigger than themselves. Most of the characters are in the entertainment industry. It's telling that his latest movie is called "The Bubble."
well when you look at the target audience, that's kinda what they're going for
I got my fill of narcissistic main characters watching Seinfeld, and since then I've always struggled to really care about movies/shows like that. Whenever I see an Apatow movie or something like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia I laugh at the odd joke, but once the movie/episode is over I move on with my life and have no desire whatsoever to watch another. It feels hollow somehow, like a 2-minute sketch drawn out into a whole episode or movie, and these days I get as much entertainment out of most short comedic youtube videos as from an entire modern comedy, so I just don't really watch comedies anymore.
So what movies DO ya find funny?
I think, as touched on a bit in the video, the cultural zeitgeist just sort of shifted. As times get more dire, and the target audience realizes that, people have to create a comedy that resonates. You've gotta adapt. I personally believe that comedy has never been better, and I grew up watching and still quote all the movies mentioned in this video. But I'm also really excited to see the way things are changing!
@@Snarl_Marx There's also the fact that comedy relies a lot on surprise, so it has to keep evolving or the punchlines will become too predictable to be funny. I'm in my thirties, and in recent years I find myself all too often predicting all too many jokes in modern comedies that are the equivalent of the movies I found absolutely hilarious in the 90s. I understand why younger people like them, but they're not breaking new ground, so to me they just feel tired and stale.
It really was an remains a special era of comedy and I’m happy I got to see nearly all of these films in the theater. Forgetting Sarah Marshall is still my favorite romantic comedy of all time.
I feel like this video lives inside of Judd Appatows head.
Superbad is still one of my favourite comedy films. Also Freaks & Greeks was fantastic. It's a shame that it got cancelled, but that first season is still great though.
Update:
I've just started watching 'Undeclared' now, as I'd not even heard of this one before. I'm only a few episodes in, but I'm kind of loving it already. It's a shame it's another one that only got one season though.
Undeclared is underrated
@@TheChosen1inc I think it's probably just because people haven't even heard of it.
Undeclared is great. That Adam Sandler episode was so damn funny
I rewatched all of these recently just because Step Brothers was on TV one day, and they still hold up for me. I was in middle/highschool during all these movies and everyone could quote them like some quote the Bible. Still though, they have a universal appeal if you're willing to get gnarly with them
I guess I'm just nostalgic because 2005-2008 were my high school years, but I feel like it was a cultural golden era we're not getting back...
I just rewatched Forgetting Sarah Marshall and it is still fucking hilarious. There are a few outdated references but nothing that falls too flat.
The characters make that film. You really feel for Peter.
@@NounOzlos yah....I just got out of a brake up and went on a movie binge for a while and I really felt like I was in that movie lmao
Sarah: Peter! What are you doing here?
Peter: I came here to murder you
HAHAHAHAHA
@@takima504 yep, watched it for the very first time after a major breakup. Really felt good to see a male character portraying the sort of pain I was feeling, in both serious and ridiculous manner. Also shows how you can overcome breakups and move on.
You sound like you're from LANDAN!
Watched Freaks and Geeks last year and it was so good! I really wish there was more than just one season.
Sucks the season is also out of order, because he never got to finish.
Honestly a lot of Apatow's comedy revolves around some redundant themes and it gets old quick. Swearing, cannabis, sexuality, and nerd core.
Walk Hard is one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. Nobody references it anymore these days, but when I randomly see a "you don't want no part of this shit" quote I flip out
I reckon I'd like to try me some ca-caine
im only 23 but i grew up on Apatows films due to having older brothers. I still come back to them now, they’re comfort films even with me not being the target audience from initial viewing
4:40 "Humor in the 90's was pretty straight laced..." shows Paul Rubens in Mystery Men, which was hilarious, largely unscripted, improv heavy film. Someone was sleeping at the wheel with this clip.
I don't think this guy remembers the 90's, it's not like Judd started anything new in the 2000's, There's Something about Mary, American Pie, Scary Movie, Road Trip and Me, Myself and Irene were all hits before Judd got big.
@@BishopWalters12agreed, perhaps the twist Apatow gave it was making loser wimp stoner nerds (then later women) more prevalent, in the 90s they were still a punching bag (and women a funny but less sarcastic/more conventionally humorous object of desire) to some degree, plus the tons of sarcasm complementing then outweighing (then sadly doing away with) the funny Ace Ventura style gags, and the 80s nostalgia (90s people were scornful of the 80s to no end).
I can firmly say that 40 year old virgin, Superbad and forgetting Sarah Marshall were some of the best movies I’ve ever seen in theaters. I laughed so hard and the entire place was packed with people just dying laughing. There were multiple scenes in those movies where tears were pouring out of my face along with everyone else as the whole place erupted with laughter.
What’s this clickbait? For all of you who haven’t seen the video yet, there was no “inevitable downfall.” He just made it, and made everyone he loves successful. He’s now chilling in his later middle age, enjoying his family. Mad respect lost Nerdstalgic.
Also, you didn't really get into just how divisive those movies were, I can remember how mainstream critics often hated Apatow with a passion, and Knocked Up especially got a lot of flack from feminists and more serious filmmakers. I lived in NYC for a spell during this time and tried stand up, and all the more established people who thought of themselves as 'auteurs' would often talk about how much they despised Apatow for lazy writing and one dimensional characters. Not saying I agree or disagree, just saying, even at his height Apatow got a lot of pushback and that's also a big part of why the industry shifted away from this style of comedy
Also, Judd Apatow didn’t really write his bigger hits. So many of them were just add Libs and riffing from his actors
Thank you. A lot of ignoring context in this video. The truth is that Judd Apatow's movies never really appealed to anyone except young white guys with a fratboy sense of humor. And so it isn't a surprise that as audiences began to crave more diverse stories from different perspectives, Apatow's movies fell out of favour.
Well they where wrong just look how boring comedy is today …
Sorry I disagree smartie, I'm none of those things you mentioned yet Apatow's comedies Still affect my comedic preferences
@@Madanth0ny it's romantic comedies that will never be the same. nowadays comedy just belongs in every script, not just a single genre
Nobody talks about heavyweights, why does no one talk about heavyweights?
I'm feeling skinny Tony!
You've broken my camera!
yes I have them on the body system
Body system?
Yes have a look.
*FWEEP*!
BODAAAAAAAY!
Seymore butts who’s seymore butts
No one’s seen more butts than you uncle Tony!
just watched it last night actually,still great
One of my favs as a kid. Still holds up in my mid 30s!
I was in my 20's in the 2000's. So that stuff was just absolutely amazing to me at the time. Friends and I watched EVERY single movie dozens of times. Now as I'm older, I like what his comedy has sort of matured into. People don't stay the same forever. I love the humor in The Bubble...So I guess my comedy is maturing right along with him? I'm ok with that :)
I think Superbad, despite being pretty popular, is still highly underrated. Its probably the last movie in a while that portrays high school life (at least in the early 2000s) in a very accurate manner. I know the film has goofy stuff in it, but the fact that the kids in the movie use the profanity that they do and have the same mindset as high schoolers back in 2006, 2007 as well as ending up in shady parties with a lot of drug use and alcohol, kinda goes a long way. Movies like "Good Boys" kinda drop the ball on trying to convey modern youth, while "8-Bit Christmas" really doesn't sell the whole 90s period kids thing.
I don't understand how you can consider Superbad underrated. It was a massive hit and a huge part of pop culture at the time. If you ask people to name the last great R rated comedies no doubt you will get a few people saying Superbad.
@@faz1483 it's 100 per cent overrated if you ask me. It was just a stupid teen comedy with a modern day setting I didn't laugh at all while I watched it but I loved Pineapple express
@@faz1483 I feel it's popular for being generally funny and everything regarding Mclovin. In my opinion it should be acknowledged more for the reasons I listed.
It has the most realistic-feeling high-schooler characters and dialogue in anything I've ever seen, and for that alone I think it will always be a classic. I didn't watch it until I was in college, but when I did, I could've sworn the characters were all people I'd gone to school with.
Let us not forget Apatow's greatest contribution - HEAVYWEIGHTS.
LOVE that movie - Paul Feig played that counselor who lost weight and everyone made fun of him for it
That movie does not get the love it deserves. I think it’s funny and all three of my kids think it’s funny.
Apatow’s movies were always about 20 minutes to long
Your “to” is one “o” short
@@brown22sugar25 he edited the 'O' out to save himself 20 minutes
That's the reason Funny People didn't work for me as well as it should have. It was two great short films with a miserable desert of boredom in the middle of them.
Wow you guys really can’t handle long films?
@@ohnobro1424 There's a difference between 'long' and 'meandering'. Knocked Up for example felt like it was forty minutes longer than 40 Year Old Virgin because of pacing. Rise of Skywalker felt like an hour longer than Force Awakens despite it only being about five minutes for the same reason.
I've never seen something that made success seem so depressingly unsuccessful as this did.
In what way is this video about the downfall of Judd Apatow? You ended the video by saying he's one of richest producers around with an amazing resume, but we'll see what happens?
I think the problem is that he used all the same actors and similar humor… it would make sense that him AND the audience would move on
I agree, the same thing happen with the Farelly Brothers.
I was expecting a video about how his work became stale once people realized that his one trick was pointing a camera at funny people and letting them riff, and then trying to edit a story together afterwards.
Me too haha, also expected something about the humour being outdated, at times offensive and only catered to a certain group of people
I love Funny People. I lost my mom shortly after it came out so it sat with me in a way that I could see would be upsetting to people not in active depression. That being said, now that I’m in a better place - I can’t imagine revisiting it. Still have love for it though. The emotion every apatow comedy radiates is what sets them apart from everything in that world. Really great video :)
Thanks for checking out the video
"Love" was a show that went into the sensitivity that was displayed in "Funny People." It was of course cancelled as well.
Most of these movies I thought were funny in seventh grade. I think that’s the biggest take away from his style of comedy. It’s the stuff that 14 year old boys find funny. But after a while, a 40-year-old man making 13-year-old boy movies is old and sad
no... we need more comedies. If you think joy is something we outgrow, that's your decision but it isn't a mentally healthy one..
The inability of non Long Island natives to pronounce our town names is a constant source of amusement
I'm a texan who lived in long island for almost 3 years, didn't have much trouble. OTOH, Massachusetts towns are a bitch
It's Sigh-Os-It. Not Sy-o-set
Love it when they try to pronounce Wantagh. Serius XM DJs when ever announcing a band playing at Jones Beach in Wantagh. They always say Whan-Tag.
@@OSheaShenanigans Patchogue, Hauppauge, Cutchogue, and Nissequogue are my favs
@@OSheaShenanigans They should ask WLIR's Larry the Duck, now on 1st Wave for help
No mention of his show "Love"?
Also, now I'm really curious and want to see the scripts for the missing Freaks and Geeks episodes 😭
He got detached from normal people the longer he was rich and in Hollywood. At least this is what I got from “this is 40” - that’s not 40 for most people.
But let’s be honest - his movies will be special for a generation of us.
something you didn't mention judd apatow does that i think is really important is his work in documentaries about legendary comedians. the zen diaries of garry shandling and the recent george carlin's american dream are well done and you can see the care that his team puts into producing these. i see it as his past of interviewing comedians and his love for comedy continuing through highlighting the comedians he admires who have since past. he had a very close relationship to shandling and it made his docs even more interesting. i think apatow taking a backseat and focusing on producing and helping newcomers find their voice, connections, and a wider audience is honestly the thing he should be doing right now
Being a George Carlin fan I loved George Carlin’s American dream cause it showed me a side of him I hadn’t really known about him
A side note, Seth Rogan co-wrote the script for Superbad. It's loosely based on his experiences growing up in Vancouver, Canada.
One of the things I loved about his movies was his dialogue. It was in precise, awkward, and inarticulate, which made more realistic and more funny. Comedy like his can't be made anymore because the movie industry is afraid of offending people and wants to appeal to everybody, which means movies these days don't have identities.
This video assumes a LOT.
explain
Funny People is a underrated Masterpiece
I'm really surprised to learn it wasn't well received. Appatow's films had always been very hit or miss for me, so I was pleasantly surprised by Funny People. I expected it to be the start of a new phase of his career. Like he'd proved he could make more meaningful films. There's no accounting for taste, I guess! 🤷♀️
my favorite Sandler role i think. it was very meta. the part where the girl rejects Rogan but then sleeps with Sandler(the famous guy) made me so uncomfortable but i was laughing the whole time. Kubrickesque imo
I can’t help but mention the complete absence of Black characters from his movies, aside from the occasional Craig Robinson. Of course I don’t EXPECT him to write such characters, but as a kid I was discouraged to know a Black girl such as myself could never exist in the hilarious universe he created.
Also, Apatow tweeting that Will Smith’s slap “could’ve killed” Chris Rock was the nail in the coffin for me. What is Judd’s deal with Black people?
What a trip. I think Judd is too woke and you don't think he's woke enough.
I’ve talked about this multiple times with my friends over the past few years. Asking them like what happen to comedy movies? I haven’t seen a comedy movie recently that has stuck and lasted the test of time. Like that era is gone, step brothers, Superbad, Pineapple Express, old school, the hangover. The last movie I can remember being somewhat similar to those other classics that came out kind of recently is The Interview and that got a big buzz because of who it was about. I feel like classics aren’t made anymore, movies come out and they’re old and dated by tomorrow but if like the 40 year old virgin comes on I’m watching it cause it’s still a good comedy. I’m glad to know it wasn’t just me thinking like WTF.
Funny people is my favourite Judd Apatow movie tbh. His take on fame, midlife crisis and love feels raw and real + Sandler and Rogen performances are amazing. Feels like marketing the movie as a comedy was the big mistake afterall
You forgot the immensely underrated "Heavyweights".
Definitely underrated! My kids and I think the movie is funny.
I just don’t understand this man. The people he chose to work with before were juggernauts. Then he started working with lena dunham, amy schumer and now pete davidson. Cmon dawg. This is carnage
I feel like a big problem, is that people like me still want the stoner, comedy bro comedies. We want all the profanity. But you just won’t find that anymore. People are scared to put that out because it probably won’t make as much $ as it would’ve 15-20 years ago
You failed to mention his Netflix show Love, which is super underrated, really funny, and beautifully written.
I like Judd and most of his film at the very least are good. My main critique is that almost all of his films are 20 to 25 minutes to long and usually have a totally unnecessary subplot (i.e.: Going to Las Vegas and spying on Paul Rudd in Knocked Up and Funny People are just very long). I can still live with this b/c his films are still pretty good or worth a watch for sure. Less The 40 Year Old Virgin I am not sure they 100% hold up years later, but they still seem basically rather good.
I had no idea one man was responsible for all this.
I always found his movie pretentious. Pretentious raunchy humor is an oxymoron. I wasn't a fan. Freeks and Geeks is one of my favorite shows of all time. His brand changed after that show failed and I think you can see him attempt to come back to it with funny people. I think he caved. You said it yourself, he was trying to scramble to help his friends.
I think Apatow handles drama/ dark humor perfectly but it’s that he puts to much trust into the actors as a whole. For instance when you look at train wreck or the king of Stanton island (great movies) there are certain scenes that go on for way to long hoping that the character say something funny even thought the tone/ joke is already established
I think a lot of his movies use a lot of improv.
@@methos-ey9nf I saw something about that, and he has a number of different jokes he's written for each scene. He films at least one take of the actors doing each line, then a few more takes of them adlibbing. After watching them all, he edits together the ones that he thinks work the best, and/or got the most laughs from those on set. Since the majority of the people he casts in his movies are comedians, they love it, and appreciate that he trusts them, and gives them enough space/time to put their own spin on the scene.
Both those films are terrible
There's a reason why Tony Zhou (formerly of Every Frame a Painting) said that Apatow's movies "aren't movies; they're mostly a bunch of comedians flexing their improv skills".
@@theobuniel9643 God, that is/was a great channel. Stinks we were given so few videos. If you're interested, another fantastic one, that is criminally under appreciated, is "In Frame Out". Been putting out amazing videos for four-ish years, but has less than 20k subs. Also, "Jose" does some awesome retrospectives on popular sitcoms, ranging from the 80's-'10's. I haven't even seen some of them before, but still end up watching his hour plus long videos discussing them. I discovered some of my favorite content creators in the comment section of other channels, so thought I'd recommend them here.
wow. thank you for giving me the name of the man who created every comedy movie i utterly hated during the 2000s.
EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
The ending statement about how great it is that he can give daughters roles made me spit out my drink i hate shit like that but the way you acted like its great was hilarious
Did anybody even realize that he released a movie this year? Written and directed by him?
It was really bad, but it’s kinda sad that nobody watched or talked about it.
I'm a little bit taken aback at how flippantly you're calling the Adam McKay movies Judd Apatow films. I get that he produced, and maybe they fit the style of that era, but McKay has a very notable vision all his own.
I feel like these character based comedies were inevitably going to burn out; sadly, ironic situational comedy is also dead, like the Zucker’s style of comedy: Airplane, Naked Gun. What’s left is basically commercializable action comedy , more or less.
I think the new style of comedy will be a combination of Zucker and Apatow. 😏😉
I think it is just people needing something fresh, as opposed to it being dead as a total genre. As someone who grew up without having seen Airplane, and watching it just a few years back, I loved it. Hadn't seen that comedy style in so long and really felt fresh to me after all the same-y "one line zinger" comedy style of today
Damn I forgot when you edit your comment you lose the heart from the creator. Nerdy Boy heart me again! Lol
The downfall of his & most other people’s comedic careers isn’t complex- it’s called *GOING WOKE*
should be titles "the inevitable downfall of all comedy as the world went woke"
A problem I had with his movies, even when I was 12, was how his comedies were overstretched or couldn’t justify their runtime. Their third acts were very clumsy
this is how i felt leaving the theater after seeing funny people, you're spot on, the third act was way too long and too much of a departure from the rest of the movie
For many people--and BoJack Horseman in S3E1--it's the second act that drags on forever in his movies.
Knocked up seemed like a droll tepid plot that expects you to think Katherine Hegel a E! TV news gal will hoop up with a shlep & continue on.... even she could not support the film or JA.
So glad I had the Apatow family to help get me through my teens. I watched 40YOV when I was 11 and it was downhill from there