The Inevitable Downfall Of Men In Black

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ธ.ค. 2022
  • When Men in Black first hit screens back in 1997, it instantly became a fan favorite. Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones made the perfect odd couple taking on a planet full of Aliens hiding in plain sight. Though as Men in Black progressed into sequels and animated shows, it became obvious the franchise was in a tail spin. But how exactly did Men in Black go from beloved sci-fi blockbuster, to the forgettable sequels we all got.
    #meninblack #willsmith #nerdstalgic
    Written by Ash Mitrano
    Edited by Nick Murphy
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  • @ashclaw2306
    @ashclaw2306 ปีที่แล้ว +4593

    The first one was truly iconic, the second did not feel bad and the third felt like the closure it should have had.

    • @ShivaramKarthikeyan
      @ShivaramKarthikeyan ปีที่แล้ว +223

      Plus the MIB and 21 Jump Street crossover had so much potential, and they opted for a lazy soft reboot with a trash script instead.

    • @kaiser1963
      @kaiser1963 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      The animated series was a better continuation of the 1st film then the movies

    • @KitsuneEX-oo8pj
      @KitsuneEX-oo8pj ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I wish they got L back for the sequel, 2 would’ve been better that way

    • @si2foo
      @si2foo ปีที่แล้ว +37

      first was great second was a money grab which they were forced to make and the third was a okay we will tie it up again nicely and not fuck with it this time.

    • @hamburgerhelpersalisburyst1507
      @hamburgerhelpersalisburyst1507 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That little twist..... awkward though it was(the uniform) actually hit me pretty dam hard.

  • @awashington8447
    @awashington8447 ปีที่แล้ว +1826

    Usually when movie studios try to "recapture the magic" of original films *AND* try to "play it safe" they fail in spectacular fashion. This is a prime example of that 😩

    • @conradojavier7547
      @conradojavier7547 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      You'd expect them to elevate the Sequel, with J & L as the New Duo, but instead They want Old Man K for the Memberberry Points.

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine ปีที่แล้ว +42

      No sequel has EVER "recaptured the magic" look at successful sequels, they take the existing concept and make NEW magic. Terminator 2 flipped the concept of a bulletproof terminator as an assassin to a bulletproof terminator as a protector against and even greater threat.

    • @christopherheckman7957
      @christopherheckman7957 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Treblaine Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is another good example.

    • @robertconner5927
      @robertconner5927 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Aliens is an example of a sequel done right. So is Riddick, it took Pitch Black and made it fresh some how

    • @zxcytdfxy256
      @zxcytdfxy256 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      What are you talking about? They didn't try anything other than girl boss crap.

  • @Ozzymandius1
    @Ozzymandius1 ปีที่แล้ว +1717

    As a New Yorker, the original MIB movie holds a special place in my heart. They strategically placed aliens throughout New York City in a way that felt oddly natural.

    • @mmorkinism
      @mmorkinism ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Natural as that's where aliens usually hang out?

    • @TheDisquietingNight
      @TheDisquietingNight ปีที่แล้ว +126

      @@mmorkinism natural as give 'em one look and it makes you immediately goes "of course they put that kind of alien in this location"

    • @FupaDoncic
      @FupaDoncic ปีที่แล้ว +21

      New York is definitely a different planet

    • @leeking6939
      @leeking6939 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      New York always suffers in movies

    • @huus5682
      @huus5682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yaa the alien itself speaking

  • @brickhouse2265
    @brickhouse2265 ปีที่แล้ว +982

    This might be stupid but the scene in the first men in black movie where he moves the table to write on his paper has had a large influence on my life

    • @exactlywhatisaid
      @exactlywhatisaid ปีที่แล้ว +138

      that scene and the entire training sequence still makes my dad legit laugh out loud. it's just damn good physical comedy

    • @tawnyflower-in5yy
      @tawnyflower-in5yy ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Not judging but I’m curious about how?

    • @S1LVAW0LF
      @S1LVAW0LF ปีที่แล้ว +138

      just because people have higher credentials than you, don’t be afraid to be different and use critical thinking instead of following the herd. the whole scene showcased that tbh. it took me multiple viewings to figure that out doe, since I was too young back in the day when I was watching this repeatedly.

    • @LadyOfTheEdits
      @LadyOfTheEdits ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True same lol. It was just very relatable lol

    • @LadyOfTheEdits
      @LadyOfTheEdits ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@S1LVAW0LF oh my word same lol

  • @ThePepelones
    @ThePepelones ปีที่แล้ว +271

    One thing to note is that he first one was ad libbed a lot, making the chemistry between Jones and Smith feel very real and witty. International didn't quite have this.

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860 ปีที่แล้ว +602

    Outside of the original classic, the animated series is easily my favourite instalment of this franchise. Jeff Kline really knows how to do great adaptations 😊

    • @kaiser1963
      @kaiser1963 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Agent L was hot in that show

    • @Craxin01
      @Craxin01 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It really felt like a continuation of the movie. Shame they can't seem to do that today.

    • @CodyDockerty
      @CodyDockerty ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That intro was a banger too

    • @mucktown
      @mucktown ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@CodyDockerty God damn, the intro had one of the best breaks in music in general. That was pure 90's Trip Hop greatness. I still play that song from time to time on parties and get always asked what this is and people can't believe that it is from the MIB Animated series. I also think that the Godzilla and Ghost Busters Animated series came from the same team. Loved the whole aesthetic

    • @mocano401
      @mocano401 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Craxin01 I always thought the Alpha character would make an awesome villain in a film

  • @andrewelder2739
    @andrewelder2739 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    I REALLY liked MIB3! I thought they delivered on the character dynamic, the most important element, and the Young K concept and execution were GREAT!

    • @christopherheckman7957
      @christopherheckman7957 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree with Nerdstalgic.

    • @I-speak-U-shut-it
      @I-speak-U-shut-it ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@christopherheckman7957 HAHAHA LETS AGREE TO DISAGREE *throws spikes

    • @noobmasterruben5167
      @noobmasterruben5167 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Top Gun Maverick, MIB 3, Bad boys 3 and Ghostbusters afterlife are my favorite sequels that came out years after the original

  • @fastertrackcreative
    @fastertrackcreative ปีที่แล้ว +422

    One of the key issues I noticed with International was Tessa's character. There seems to be a trend of interpreting equality as female lead who's super amazing and praised by everyone and everything is centred around.

    • @exactlywhatisaid
      @exactlywhatisaid ปีที่แล้ว +104

      yeah the first movie established this rigorous selection process involving top class military training due to the weapon use involved, the whole training sequence, and then International was like "ok she's good at computers, and she has an interest in aliens? ok you're hired!"

    • @YukitoOnline
      @YukitoOnline ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Woke culture in a nutshell

    • @potatopatato1565
      @potatopatato1565 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      the "strong independent woman" Gimmick strikes again

    • @Joecbg100
      @Joecbg100 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      The Mary Sue disease....Yep. Flat and center.

    • @JackahoonaLaGuna
      @JackahoonaLaGuna ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Feminism at its best

  • @biguy617
    @biguy617 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    The main downfall is when they got rid of L. I liked the character and she was bad ass in the MIB animated series. That is my opinion.

    • @ShazeemKhan
      @ShazeemKhan ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is more fact lol

    • @MASTEROFEVIL
      @MASTEROFEVIL หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The actor who played her was supposedly a huge pain in the ass to work with according to the people who worked on set

    • @Gundam4
      @Gundam4 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If that's the case then they should have recasted her ​@@MASTEROFEVIL

  • @doorbox788
    @doorbox788 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    hollywood’s obsession with CGI is like gaming obsession with open world 3D games. Sure when done well it’s awesome, but when done poorly (which let’s be honest it usually is) it literally ruins what otherwise would’ve been a pretty decent piece of media

  • @archive6094
    @archive6094 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    Fun Fact: In the first Men in Black, the crew blew up a 25-gallon drum of blue goo for the scene in the beginning of the movie

    • @Carloszavalalol
      @Carloszavalalol ปีที่แล้ว +26

      This lead to the films' working title to be named "Blue Harvest".

    • @tmclaug90
      @tmclaug90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Carloszavalalol wasn't blue harvest from star wars?

    • @unclefungus7395
      @unclefungus7395 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      so thaats why it looks so good in 4k

    • @Luca-La-Rosa
      @Luca-La-Rosa 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@unclefungus7395 when you realize even bettrr resolution exist
      When you watch in 4k an video of comparing to hd than you have to watch it on an different hd screen to to see the difference
      i now the internet lies

  • @HMF47
    @HMF47 ปีที่แล้ว +496

    Hollywood has been taking all the wrong lessons from Chris Hemsworth as Thor, and MIB International may be the biggest example of that. He's a talented actor and deserves a more diverse career than just standard blockbuster fare.

    • @matthewmccoy7437
      @matthewmccoy7437 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      agreed, it’s unfortunate that he has been getting nothing but “comedic relief dumb guy” roles for the last few years.

    • @redx9656
      @redx9656 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@matthewmccoy7437 what!? 😂 that’s hensworth fault and how he markets himself he told the marvel studios if they didn’t make Thor funny and comedic that he was done playing the character and now that people are not liking the comedic side of Thor anymore he wants to revert back to him being serious maybe Chris should take himself serious and then he’ll get serious more mature roles 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @avatar5023
      @avatar5023 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did international have anything to do with the original films?

    • @John_C_J
      @John_C_J ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@matthewmccoy7437 Literally the description of his character in Ghostbusters (2016)

    • @_holy__ghost
      @_holy__ghost ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@redx9656 im gonna need a source for where the hell hemsworth said that

  • @wereallmadhere88
    @wereallmadhere88 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I'll be honest I enjoy MIB 1-3 all equally. There's just so much nostalgia for me behind the trilogy. Sure its not perfect all the way through, but I thoroughly enjoy watching the trilogy of films. MIB International definitely failed for me, but I'll always enjoy the first three films no matter what

    • @ramadhanisme7
      @ramadhanisme7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, same here

    • @sidnew2739
      @sidnew2739 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is no "trilogy". It is a movie with two sequels.

    • @killert41
      @killert41 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sidnew2739 Shut up

    • @AnjelCaido69
      @AnjelCaido69 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@sidnew2739 way to be a contrarian lol

    • @a.x.x8184
      @a.x.x8184 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@sidnew2739 that’s a trilogy 💀

  • @VideoGameAutopsy
    @VideoGameAutopsy ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Men in Black 1 is amazing, and still holds up to this day. It’s an amazing blend of sci fi, action, with great characters and a tightly written story. And it was pretty funny.
    Men In Black 2, much like “Thor, Love and Thunder, focused too much on comedy, and side stepped everything that made the previous installment so great.
    Men In Black 3 was truly a return to form, and the proper sendoff that the series needed. It has everything that made the first one so great, and they went above and beyond to delivery one hell of a finale.

    • @Oldschool1943
      @Oldschool1943 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      actually it's more like:
      Men in Black 1 was somewhat true to the comic book that it's based on that told a great story still holds up to this day. It’s an amazing blend of sci fi, action, with great characters and a tightly written.
      Men In Black 2 is the Thor, Love and Thunder, except its a very short film focused too much on comedy, and side stepped everything that made the previous installment so great.
      Men In Black 3 was a time traveling movie it's the thor ragnarok/bad boys 3, the movie forget what made the first one good and too many side characters that u don't care about and a convoluted plot and a garbage finale.

    • @pashauzan
      @pashauzan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Oldschool1943 nah mib3 is the goat

    • @Cakemarvelous
      @Cakemarvelous 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@pashauzanI always felt like MIB3's message of "telling the truth" was the opposite of the first one, "lying to the entire world is better than have massive panic"

  • @BrendanPappas
    @BrendanPappas ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I never really felt the first two MIB sequels were that bad. They definitely paled in comparison to the first one, but they were enjoyable enough in their own right. I didn’t really trust the fourth movie from the start, though. It had been too long since the last movie and introducing a new cast felt like writing on the wall for a potential disaster.

    • @evenhartwick4422
      @evenhartwick4422 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i honestly wish that 21 Jump street/MIB movie happened. its such a wacky idea for a crossover i think even if it was bad it would have been more memorable than International which is just the epitome of a bland forgettable movie. at the time Jump Street was super popular i think it really could have helped bring in new fans to the MIB franchise

  • @therealseanw.stewart2071
    @therealseanw.stewart2071 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Men in Black is one of my first beloved childhood films. It's an absolute classic, and proved to have captured lightning in a bottle in the long run.

    • @jonnnnniej
      @jonnnnniej ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Key & Peele have messed up the saying lightning in a bottle for me forever :')

    • @Scarecrooo
      @Scarecrooo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      MIB is a classic like Jurassic Park and Matrix...masterpiece all of them, but they want to squeeze out more money with a half assed story :/

  • @averyeml
    @averyeml ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I agree that the sequels feel like they’re trying to mimic the originality of the first and that it REALLY didn’t work for International, but 2 and 3 are actually solid. 2 is right up there with the first just about, though it is annoying they had to retcon so much to try and mimic it. 3 had no right to be as good as it was given the time stretch and cash grab vibes. They managed to give it more emotional depth and heart than I actually think they achieved with J’s broken heart in the 2nd. Putting them in the same “bad sequel” bucket along with International is unfair, I feel.

  • @Locadel2003
    @Locadel2003 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    After I watched Men In black international, I came back to truly like Men in Black 2😂

  • @redacted2275
    @redacted2275 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    You pretty much explained the downfall of 99% of entertainment quality from the late 90s to recent years using MIB as an example. Very cool.

  • @jinpei05
    @jinpei05 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The first Men in Black is lightning in a bottle.

    • @deemen7132
      @deemen7132 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like the Hangover

    • @jogymogy3691
      @jogymogy3691 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Like PotC

  • @Woozlewuzzleable
    @Woozlewuzzleable ปีที่แล้ว +26

    To me none of them will ever be even half as good as the first one. The first one was just so original and none of the other ones really brought anything new and exiting.

    • @ericvulgate
      @ericvulgate ปีที่แล้ว

      The cartoon was worthwhile.

    • @Woozlewuzzleable
      @Woozlewuzzleable ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ericvulgate I bet, never saw it. Probably like how I liked the Ghostbusters cartoon more than the sequels.

  • @taylorwest6547
    @taylorwest6547 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I adore the men in black series, MIB 3 is my favorite of the original trilogy. I saw the potential for a great story in men in black international, but they didn't do a good enough job sowing the seeds to warrant the emotional ending it was going for. Hemsworth having been neuralized was a great idea, and they kind of hinted at it but not enough for it to have been as strong of a payoff as it had the potential to be.

  • @Frostmourne86
    @Frostmourne86 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think the biggest issue of the fourth film was that they tacked on "International" - like you didn't see, when Zed is talking with some agents you can see that they're all over the world, or during the reveal that many famous people are aliens they also show that they don't live in New York City - the organization is already international.

  • @PKGangsta18
    @PKGangsta18 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Part 1 and 3 all day (especially Josh Brolin's Agent K. He was amazing lol. He nailed Tommy Lee Jones mannerism). Part 2 was ok.
    ...we don't talk about International

    • @timmholl9238
      @timmholl9238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you a part of my family? Because this is us.

  • @ogto
    @ogto ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Vincent D'Onofrio is a treasure, he's great in almost everything

  • @jeremiahhester6408
    @jeremiahhester6408 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a definition of a rollercoaster franchise: 1st up, 2nd, down, 3rd up, international dooown.

  • @Blade-hf9po
    @Blade-hf9po ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MIB 3 worked for me because of the twist near the end. There were hints to it throughout the film, but that twist, they nailed it beautifully.

  • @ligeringspirit1133
    @ligeringspirit1133 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1 to 3 is fun but international is just dumpster fire

  • @VoiceNerd
    @VoiceNerd ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I got to be honest I spent the entire weekend watching your videos and today was the day I decided to find the subscribe. After watching this video I made the red solution. Awesome work man.

  • @randomguyontheinternet7940
    @randomguyontheinternet7940 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In all honesty I think Men In Black 3 is my favorite. Not just saying it to feel different I just feel like its the perfect finale that was able to reach notes the previous ones hadn't reached yet. I love how it goes further into the character's history, it does an amazing job at wrapping everything up while continuing to enrichen the story.

  • @raxxie
    @raxxie ปีที่แล้ว +28

    MIIIB made me more emotional than it had any business doing lol. But the original was everything when I was a kid! That's where my interest in sci-fi started, from what I can remember.

  • @nicolasrestrepo9041
    @nicolasrestrepo9041 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    M.I.B II and III retconn so much of the first movie that I swear someone could come up with a theory that all three movies are parallel dimensions or different timelines and it wouldn't even sound that crazy.

    • @jogymogy3691
      @jogymogy3691 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I would like to think about that way. Even tone wise, these movies don't build a good trilogy

  • @max_kirchi_fca
    @max_kirchi_fca ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Similar to Idiana Jones, I did like the first film, the second was okay, but it wasn't until the third that I really loved it (while the 4th can be completely forgotten)
    MIB 3 was an absolute character film with an exciting storyline, which was a lot of fun
    Therefore I would not really go along with the thesis

  • @ItsJustMe0585
    @ItsJustMe0585 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I swear the 90's was a golden age for movies. It's like we had unique and fun ideas and were less politically divided than ever, which lead to movies just being about the human element and fun, rather than political messaging and rehashes.

    • @terminator572
      @terminator572 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its when the wackiness of the 60s met the 80s technical prowess, the 90s truly were lightning in a bottle.

  • @TheBmichel51122
    @TheBmichel51122 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk what my journey will be but, this is the first video I’ve ever watched from this channel (never heard of it until 10 minutes ago), and let me just say you have earned a subscriber! The editing, the music, the steady narration, the clear expository analyses, I loved every second of it. One of my favorite movies being discussed was the cherry on top. Keep doing what you’re doing guys, can’t wait to see more!! 🌟

  • @TeissonH
    @TeissonH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for mentioning the cartoon TV series! It did many things right and it frustrates me that most MIB youtube videos doesn't even mention it. When we discuss vovies it's always "the script and the plot are what matters the most", but when it come to MIB Animated Series, it's suddenly "just a cartoon" without even considering its writing.

  • @RomaroBrandon
    @RomaroBrandon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In hindsight Kay retiring should have been saved for MiB 3, after the opening credits Kay decides he wants to have a normal life but before he can, he's notified that Boris the Animal has escaped. The rest of the movie plays out the same and in the end Jay has a quick talk with Kay before giving a speech about what an amazing guy he is and then before getting neuralized, tips a waiter so a meteor doesn't hit Earth.

  • @AJ-xc4qe
    @AJ-xc4qe ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Speaking of Men In Black, I had a realization last month that there are multiple second movie installments that came out in 2002, 20 years ago!
    Blade 2, Cinderella 2, Men In Black 2, Harry Potter 2, The Santa Clause 2, Star Wars Episode 2, Spy Kids 2, The Lord of the Rings 2, Stuart Little 2, Black Mask 2, The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2 and Peter Pan 2. So far, I have no interest in watching Cinderella 2 or Hunchback 2 as I've seen reviews of them and I haven't watched either of the Black Mask movies or the Blade trilogy or The Lord of the Rings trilogy. I have The Fellowship of the Ring on DVD but I haven't gotten around to watching it. And it hasn't stopped me from finding reviews for my 2002 sequel playlist. Have you seen either of them?

    • @tritonlockjaw284
      @tritonlockjaw284 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Watch Lord of the Rings. For your own sake, you’ll thank me later

    • @kenzieuchiha1191
      @kenzieuchiha1191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blade is alright, Lord of the Rings is a must watch however so please give it a chance some day!

    • @CrazyHLady
      @CrazyHLady ปีที่แล้ว

      Cinderella2 is not that great😑

  • @WolvieRockx
    @WolvieRockx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That scene in the first MIB when everyone is in that room taking the questionnaire on clip boards and J, SLIIIIIIDES that table over 😂😂 thats tough to replicate forsure

  • @5keeper7ful
    @5keeper7ful ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Don’t forget the ride at Universal Orlando. Still going and very popular. As much as Revenge of the Mummy.

  • @sweeneagle16
    @sweeneagle16 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I think novelty was one of the biggest strengths of the first movie and the core of the intrigue of Men In Black. The minute they tried to sell Will Smith’s character as suddenly a seasoned vet, it lost its biggest strength. The rabbit hole should’ve gotten deeper and we should’ve been allowed the experience of discovering even deeper weirdness with Agent J instead of just covering the same ground each time with him being pro. It’s like if the after the first Harry Potter, Harry was suddenly a fully developed master wizard in the sequels. The whole point is discovery and growth and Agent J didn’t have anywhere else to go when MIB2 started. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @PincheBeto_Bass
    @PincheBeto_Bass ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Men in black 2 was released when I was 8 years old and I loved it. It had silly scenes that I remember were hilarious! Obviously now as an adult they’re super cheesy but it’s supposed to be silly

    • @jdrvargo287
      @jdrvargo287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      While it pales next to 1, MIB 2 definitely has some good jokes and moments in it. I was about 9 or 10 when it came out and really enjoyed seeing it at the drive-in.
      And Lara Flynn-Boyle in lingerie definitely jumpstarted puberty for me. Even if the scene was kinda traumatizing for young me as well.

  • @thewat668
    @thewat668 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I liked MIB 3 better than the previous two I grew up with, and managed to carefully tow the line between comedy and drama

  • @RomaroBrandon
    @RomaroBrandon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You know what they should have done for MiB 2? Not retcon the ending! K should have only gotten part of his memory back from watching the episode about the Light of Zartha and slowly being to remember who Laura was. Also I think it would have been funnier if he stayed neutral during the entire film and was acting like Jay in the first movie.
    Agent L also should be in this movie as J's partner. The scene with Agent T and Jeff could've been part of MiB field that he failed, and Serleena shouldn't show her face until the climax.

  • @irighterotica
    @irighterotica ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Still feel like MIB + 21J St. would've been a winning combo and definitely one I would've liked to see.

  • @emanuelespinoza9325
    @emanuelespinoza9325 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The weird thing about this is that I have been on a kick involving collecting movie tie-in novelizations and I had ordered the novels of the first two films and two additional stories. So, in a way I got back into Men in Black.
    I remember seeing the fourth film in theaters and I didn't mind it. Of course, I wonder if I should give it another watch to see where I stand with it. I know some people speak negatively about the second film, and that movie was really short. Not sure if it holds up, but I might give it another watch. I remember liking the first and third films.

  • @lillordakira9752
    @lillordakira9752 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:30 Speaking of FXs, Notice in this scene that the rock that Agent J threw at the bug suddenly disappears after hitting the ground.

  • @darko-man8549
    @darko-man8549 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love watching all three films of the trilogy

  • @Lwyntheundefeated
    @Lwyntheundefeated ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Everyone hates on Will Smith, but he's a hell of an actor. No one can pull MIB off like he did

    • @darlenelang3681
      @darlenelang3681 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I do not hate Will Smith. I do not like the idiot he hit. He (the idiot ) makes his stand up by cutting others down. Had I been there I would have slapped him too. I love will Smith. And guess what I am not black😊

  • @OnyxLee
    @OnyxLee ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My best memories since moving to New York, are when I recognized some places from the mib. It made this city magical. Most local New Yorkers don't even know what the Mib HQ is there for.

  • @sasamichan
    @sasamichan ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Some of my issues with MIB
    1. They thought they needed Tommy Lee Jones in order to have a sequel
    2. they tried to juggle a cartoon series and movie series at the same time
    3. they put too much time between sequels
    4. They let Will Smith go off script and just riff and improvise too much

    • @I-speak-U-shut-it
      @I-speak-U-shut-it ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Well. MIB2 IS a Will Smith movie and it's a comedy.

    • @chattaboxxx2332
      @chattaboxxx2332 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      1 and 4 are some of the best parts of the trilogy lol.

    • @sasamichan
      @sasamichan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chattaboxxx2332 I liked it in one and parts of two but in 3 not as much.

    • @beauxr.benoit1374
      @beauxr.benoit1374 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chattaboxxx2332 4? I haven't seen it, can you please elaborate.

    • @fitsumayalew9819
      @fitsumayalew9819 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@beauxr.benoit1374 I think he meant the points written in 1 and 4

  • @maheshsai4610
    @maheshsai4610 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was today years old when I found out the original sequels bombed/under performed 😭😭
    I seriously loved all these three movies as a kid and thought the sequels were blockbusters too

    • @lisamedla
      @lisamedla ปีที่แล้ว

      There is one he said bombed internationally. It probably did well locally. So that would be you and several other people

    • @sidnew2739
      @sidnew2739 ปีที่แล้ว

      Today years old?

  • @dondinero718
    @dondinero718 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The MiB soundtrack was 🔥

  • @thewatsonian8111
    @thewatsonian8111 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tessa Thompson’s character was everything that was wrong with MIB:I, but I’ve never found her convincing in any of her films.

  • @patrickiamonfire965
    @patrickiamonfire965 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really loved the Men in Black 3 the most. No forgotten Princess would be would be not romance subplot.

  • @kabronex9877
    @kabronex9877 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thats the first time I ever hearf anybody describe Tessa Thompson as a decent actor

    • @sitcomchristian6886
      @sitcomchristian6886 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂 completely agree, the only thing she does well is smugness. And that's no compliment.

  • @bahumatneo
    @bahumatneo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As soon the the girl said it should be called “people in black” I knew I would never watch the last one.

  • @Squicx
    @Squicx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still wish we got that MIB x 21 Jump Street crossover. Since 21 Jump Street was a revival of the 1980s 21 Jump Street series, it woulda made viewers go back and realise, "holy crap, there are aliens in this series, plus Agent K and J just off screen somewhere?!" Of course J wasn't recruited yet but if it's all connected it woulda meant that this entire time (for example, the pilot episode of 21 Jump Street 1980s) the events in M.I.B 3 with the moon landing already happened with Boris the Animal. Kinda crazy but it woulda been so cool

  • @macewbee
    @macewbee ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review

  • @randomsleepyness
    @randomsleepyness ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In my head, the first one is the only "men in black", the follow-ups were "men in grey" imitations.

  • @themysteriousspeeddemon
    @themysteriousspeeddemon ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My take on the Men In Black franchise, much like Ghostbusters. They somehow tend to rehash what came before ala storybeats or returning villain with GB Afterlife. Ghostbusters The video game was the best sequel out of the quadrilogy because they're expanding on lore that was briefly mentioned in the first movie, while they also introduced new tech to combat entities that are immune to the proton packs which I really like. The one gripe I have with the game's story was when Peter was hitting on Ilyssa, I dunno, much like the whole Louis and Janine thing. It just feels wrong to me. This was taking place in 91, and we weren't given much explanation on why this was the case within the story.
    Speaking of relationships, another small thing I hate in both GB, MIB 2 and a couple of sequels I know is, when relationships between characters either reset like Peter and Dana, or get nixed altogether ala J x L, and Egon x Janine without any good explanation, or even reason within the story.

    • @MarcelLWalker
      @MarcelLWalker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Comparing those two franchises is very intriguing, and I see your points on a lot of it. GHOSTBUSTERS and MEN IN BLACK both started out incredibly strong with high-concept premises, were popular with audiences, had animated series that expanded on their worlds, and were even set in New York City! But neither one had sequels that ever quite recaptured their respective magic, whether the original stars were involved or not. (Oh, and Chris Hemsworth has now been involved with both franchises!) Thank you for the insights!
      PS: I likewise agree with you in being annoyed when franchises (in)conveniently disregard established characters and/or relationships. Keeping fans satisfied and treating us like we remember plot points and care isn't that hard!

    • @juliandacosta6841
      @juliandacosta6841 ปีที่แล้ว

      2 Ghostbusters sequels were good (not great) though that's 2 more than Mib has

    • @themysteriousspeeddemon
      @themysteriousspeeddemon ปีที่แล้ว

      Marcel Walker Don't forget the fact that they both are owned by Sony Pictures.
      I don't mind the A plots on these sequels. It's the B plots that can either make or slightly put a dent on the overall presentation.
      P.S.
      MIB 2 was average aside from the arbitrary switch from the first film
      MIB 3 was a decent watch.
      MIB animated: I thought it was pretty cool and has its hilarious moments.
      I haven’t seen MIB international.
      I thought GB 2 was alright for what it is, but still, there are plenty of things left to be desired, to say the least.
      GB Video Game is the best one out of the 3 sequels.
      GB Afterlife, I really liked it at first, but as time moved on, I thought it was alright. bringing back Gozer felt a bit tiresome. I honestly wish it was either one of the villains from The RGB's brought to the screen like The Boogie Man, Samhain, Cthulu, The Grundel, or probably even Prodius or just a new villain from Ivo Shandor's lineage at least.
      The RGB's was great until J. Michael Straczynski was nixed off the show.
      I didn't watch much of Extreme Ghostbusters.

    • @kingovharts
      @kingovharts ปีที่แล้ว

      Not only that but they literally changed Janine character. The Louis thing felt a bit weird but he was hanging out at the firehouse more as their lawyer.

  • @DeltaAssaultGaming
    @DeltaAssaultGaming ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tessa Thompson was so miscast as Valkyrie

  • @HarvestStore
    @HarvestStore ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.

  • @SkipSpotter
    @SkipSpotter ปีที่แล้ว

    It's refreshing to get someone else's insight and opinions into these franchises, especially when they know what they're actively discussing. Thumbs up from me! 😀

  • @ItzGoose
    @ItzGoose ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mib 3 is really good tbh just as good as the first one

  • @kaylahensley1581
    @kaylahensley1581 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually liked MIB International.

  • @adarsh9715
    @adarsh9715 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the MIA line, keep it up! You earned a sub

  • @nickbecerra9580
    @nickbecerra9580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Weird that I kinda got back into MIB right before you released this

  • @z0ee996
    @z0ee996 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Should’ve ended at the 3rd one..

    • @I-speak-U-shut-it
      @I-speak-U-shut-it ปีที่แล้ว

      Just like Fast n Furious movies should've ended after the movie where the cgi Paul Walker drove off into the sunset

  • @donaldjrtrumpy8511
    @donaldjrtrumpy8511 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MIB3 was great better than your average Marvel

  • @Rowglow
    @Rowglow ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MIB 2 was the first out of the franchise I saw as a kid so it has a special place in my heart. I love it after all these years and I honestly couldn’t fathom that people hated it 😂

  • @colehughes714
    @colehughes714 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1 and 3 were great. 2 and international, not so much. Also I think 3 had more going for it then just the characters and cast, I think it had a great story and was overall a pretty good movie. It doesn’t top the first one, but I think it works really well as a sequel

  • @firstnamelastname6202
    @firstnamelastname6202 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Idk if it would have actually worked or made the movie better, but I think Chris Hemsworth should have been a twist villain in MIB: International. Throughout the movie, there are several throwaway lines saying he's changed (I'm guessing since his and Liam Neeson's original fight with the hive mind alien), which end up leading to nothing, because it's Liam Neeson's character that is the bad guy. Idk whether maybe the lines were meant to suggest PTSD or something, but they never really get resolved. I think both Chris and Liam could have been the villains, like at first it's revealed to Liam and then when they're confronting him, Chris reveals himself too.
    Like I say idk if it would have worked, but I think it would have been cool to see Chris Hemsworth as a villain (hopefully aore compelling one than in Ghostbusters anyway lol)

  • @mr.randomguys7629
    @mr.randomguys7629 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Men in Black III was fantastic!

  • @MrBucketlist
    @MrBucketlist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. I saw this movie in theaters and have watched it many times. I've never known the kingpin was also Edgar.

  • @DeadHawk23
    @DeadHawk23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aww that animated series was SO fucking cool to watch when I was a kid

  • @_MC529
    @_MC529 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I urge absolutely everybody to show me a single acting performance of Tessa Thompson that isn't annoying af😭😭😭

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I think she isn't annoying in Creed and is actually great

    • @robertosolano7774
      @robertosolano7774 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I liked her in Veronica Mars

    • @I-speak-U-shut-it
      @I-speak-U-shut-it ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mandalorianhunter1 I agree about that comment on her on Creed. But goddamn if she wasn't annoying in MIB International and the Thor movies

    • @chattaboxxx2332
      @chattaboxxx2332 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually liked her in Thor Ragnarok, don't get me wrong she was still annoying asf but that was a big part of the character, I honestly wouldn't expect anything less than painful from an alcohol abusing overconfident bounty hunter who lost her people and dealt with it in an unhealthy way, which I guess is the point, she NEEDS shitty characters to play, where it makes sense for the character to be a POS for her acting to work, because she doesn't have any range, all she can properly play is herself, which is annoying, stuck up, arrogant, and full of clearly underlying issues that haven't been dealt with, and when she is in that role, she does great, but short of that no f*cking way.

    • @ccptube3468
      @ccptube3468 ปีที่แล้ว

      That Fool is Unwatchable!

  • @leinadreign3510
    @leinadreign3510 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Barry sonnenfeld was good with more darker stuff:
    MIB (the first) and the addams family movies for example are all great!
    The sequels of MIB were sadly tuned down with the dark stuff in favor for stupid comedy Knoxville stuff and such.
    I didnt liked them really

  • @write2pras84
    @write2pras84 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol @2:07 didn’t notice newt Gingrich in there 😂

  • @madhukarg8052
    @madhukarg8052 ปีที่แล้ว

    Men in Black is my childhood, I really grew up watching the cartoon ❤️, this video was a great nostalgia ride ❤️🔥👍

  • @GarthDeBrunoAustin
    @GarthDeBrunoAustin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Men in black 3 was incredible

  • @josefagomezschmeisser8356
    @josefagomezschmeisser8356 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really wanted to like the MIB international since I liked that we will follow new agents and Chris and Tessa are great but the script didn’t let them exploit their comedic side, specially Chris character, and Tessa’s character kinda fell into the “powerful woman” like capitan marvel and Mulan 2020 archetype like she was new but superior in every way to her incompetent male work partner, like putting men down to lift women when in reality isn’t inspiring at all not seeing those characters struggle to get better and train and all of that, they are just better than men cuz they a strong action woman trademark >:[

  • @MrJreed1000
    @MrJreed1000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 3rd one was great... underrated

  • @tamikemitchell4788
    @tamikemitchell4788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad you compliment series 3. I went to see it in 3d and it was great and the best of the 3. 2 and 4 was probably boring.

  • @Chumbucketsecret
    @Chumbucketsecret ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why is nobody talking about the animated series? It was so damn good.

  • @Dustballguy
    @Dustballguy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoyed the 3rd one, I think they did a pretty good job. MIB international .. was a bit funnier then I remembered on my 2nd watch but yeah..

  • @KravenErgeist
    @KravenErgeist ปีที่แล้ว

    I never actually paused the movie to look at the list of celebrities that MIB indicates as being aliens in disguise before (2:10 in the TH-cam video), so I was doubled over with laughter when I saw George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Sylvester Stallone and Newt Gringrich on the list. XD

  • @pablocasas5906
    @pablocasas5906 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved the original MIB and I have fond memories of the animated series, MIB 2 was a disappointment, though it has a few good jokes. The third one is kind of weird, I wouldn't call it a great movie but I find it better than the second one (not to mention that it's one of the few movies where I think the dub actually makes it funnier). International was totally forgettable, Hemsworth and Thompson have great chemistry but I don't remember any single joke

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved the first two

  • @deesixx1460
    @deesixx1460 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want that MIB 22 jump street cross over so bad!

  • @andreethier816
    @andreethier816 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The second movie doesn't "retcon" anything about the first, what are you on about? Yeah, they do undo some things, but nothing is retconned, it's all explained in the movie.
    As for International, yeah, it wasn't very good. I love the Demobaza techwear that the alien twins wear though haha

  • @bernieburton6520
    @bernieburton6520 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the first, don't care about the second, and really enjoyed the third one. It was a great way to end the films. Didn't even watch the reboot.

  • @bobs3060
    @bobs3060 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Men In Black would do really well as a streaming show honestly.

    • @TheElectricMayhem
      @TheElectricMayhem ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lot of great world building and lore to work with.

    • @kingovharts
      @kingovharts ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s a great idea. Especially the stuff they can do on a smaller budget now.

    • @XxLIVRAxX
      @XxLIVRAxX ปีที่แล้ว

      I buy that idea

    • @arturocastroverde3349
      @arturocastroverde3349 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not in this modern world when everything is woke trash

  • @aradmas7653
    @aradmas7653 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love seeing dat slapping scenes, it was so good.

  • @carston101
    @carston101 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I rewatched 1 last night for the first time in a long time, and still loved it just as i did when i was a kid.
    Rewatched 2 just a couple hours ago. It was enjoyable and entertaining, but really fells like its tripping itself constantly.
    3 im going to rewatch tomorrow, and im most excited to rewatch this one because i havent seen it since its release. So im curious if ill enjoy it as much as i remember enjoying it then.
    Eta: not rewatching international. Felt like i wasted 2 hours of my life when i left the theater and i dont want to do it again.

  • @therockamy
    @therockamy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It was probably James Gunn’s decision that made MIB extinct… He reminds me of Thanos but in real life… 😎

  • @karinisvetcool
    @karinisvetcool ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly I'm glad MIB: International wasn't trying to be the original MIB. That goes wrong so often, I was relieved when I watched the movie and it was more of a standalone thing.

  • @TactileTherapy
    @TactileTherapy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How to do a sequel: Either subvert the audiences expectation T2 style. Or enhance the foundation already built Dark Knight style

  • @BIGwillTHEGAME
    @BIGwillTHEGAME ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandfather introduced me to this franchise a couple years ago.

  • @garrettstephens8168
    @garrettstephens8168 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just feel like the reboot was too rooted in careful politics and they weren’t willing to take risks. The movie was a bust.

    • @jordanloux3883
      @jordanloux3883 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which is funny, considering the first movie begins with a truckful of illegal aliens being allowed into the united states because Human politics are small potatoes compared to dealing with alien life on earth

    • @juliandacosta6841
      @juliandacosta6841 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jordanloux3883 if i had to choose between a truck full of people rotting in jail, or illegal entrance to a country, it's not going to be a hard decision