Best Rapper Bracket
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So humbling that Fantano didn't put himself in the bracket. What a beautiful thing to do!
This wasn't a bracket for the best teeth in the game
@@qui_X He wears dentures 🗿🗿
It’s for rappers with two ps not one
@@qui_X Anderson paak still wins
Of course he couldn’t. Have you heard of Cal Chuchesta?
Jpeg Mafia vs Future has to be the most random matchup I've ever heard
Fr. I was so confused seeing that matchup compared to the other ones
@@haylhidra8 yeah jpeg vs danny brown would make more sense
and really how u gonna pick jpeg over future. thats some indieboy bull
It sure did open up a great dialogue though, so sweet to watch active disagreement expressed respectfully and knowledgeably amongst mates
@@andmoreagain5323 peggy’s the more innovative artist while future delivers consistent bangers i could see both sides
I’m glad they skimmed over Kendrick vs J. Cole so fast, because I’m tired of pretending that’s a debate.
2024 EDIT: This aged perfectly 😂
Fr
lmao for real
Cole is the single most overrated rapper ever. Like as soon as I hear anyone mention him in any goat conversation I just think 🤡
nah it is a debate, both are great.
@@OliDox eminem is the most overrated rapper. not saying he is bad by any means but def overrated. his body of work as a whole is too inconsistent.
Both of these guys are really good at explaining, and backing up their opinions. This was the most respectful hip hop conversation I’ve ever heard lol
The wu-tang hoodie guy is really well spoken and pleasant to listen to.
Big facts
man defended eminem though
@@vansdan.man why is it so cool to just hate on Eminem? The man has some very shitty records but let’s give the man a break come on
@@aartasian8852yk the funniest bit is the Encore is probably his best album, I’m not talking about the version that was released, but the one that was supposed to be released but it didn’t
Didn’t think Hopsin could win it all, but somehow he pulled it off.
Truly a happy ending for my favourite rapper.
What he hopsin?
@@TheHolySandwich he hopsin what
About time Hopsin gets some dubs on the board 😤
Hopsin he what
good to see logic interacting with his fans, such a nice guy
I’ve never seen logic with a mustache before but I have to say he puls it of
melon fans try to make an original comment challenge: HARD
@@ejodh0826 Impossible
@@marieniordache664 (100% fail)
@@spike5499(gone pregnant)
18:11 so hilarious how they praised Eminem for 10 minutes on his influence and how he transcended the genre, and at the end they both went "YE"
Lol, ong. Em has pretty much everything over ye.
@@Lore-gt5rh musically never, album no, only rapping he has over ye and influence which is debatable
YEP true haha😅😅
@@nknewknowledge2678 rapping, sales, influence, hits Em has over Ye. 'Musically' is subjective, anything else is in clear favour to Em.
@@malamark04 when you said musically subjective that's when I knew your opinion is not relevant, not gonna argue with a dumb stan with zero knowledge about good music 🙄 bye
At first I was disappointed it was such a small bracket but damn y'all really went into each matchup in a way I didn't expect. Great stuff
Wayne shouldn’t have gone against Kanye because Wayne is better than most rappers and would have won most other match ups. He was out too soon
They did Cole dirty… not to say he should’ve advanced but he deserves some conversation
@@cecilmunshin4642 not really
@@cecilmunshin4642 it’s just as clear as it gets, he’s obviously incredible enough to make it onto this bracket, but going against kendrick there’s no point in talking about it
@@cecilmunshin4642 There would have been more of a convo if he wasn't against Kendrick
i wish i had someone who fought for me as hard as fantano fought for jpegmafia 🤧
For real made me a fan and I never heard any of him💀
@@ChefPollenYou gotta listen haha.
@@ChefPollen Peggy is awesome. Drake Era goes hard as fuck, and is a good look at his personality
JPEG is one of the most exciting artists working now
@@gabrielreyes9096 I saw him on Kenny beats show the cave but that's it
The island boys going all the way is truly a heart wrenching moment. Beautiful
"Head" is truly one of the greatest songs of our generation, a progressive rap masterpiece
"pull up a aieenaaa with his head yeah, he so sorry sorry but i gotta take yo life" BARS
@@zangafan27 i be putting on my vest on!
What’s even better is how they did it with much less discography. And honestly 10 years from now I Dont think this answer would change.
btch i'm sorry, sorry, but i'm going to take yo life
The fact that j cole lasted literally 3 seconds on the bracket is crazy
Bro got violated 💀
Mid cole
@@Mhmhmhmhm name 10 better modern rappers :D
@@tupla1122 Kendrick lamar, JPEGMafia, Denzel Curry, JID, Tyler the Creator are all better imo but Cole is still good(ik its not 10 rappers), He is overhyped as HELL but People shit on him a lot of the time but hes still great, both sides are wrong and right in certain parts
@@ghostpopp agreed.
Fantano convincing him to pick jpeg over future was amazing 😂
He should be like a businessman
Not surprised Tom McDonald being on top again. The man doesn’t lose
Again.
spoilers smh
truly the goat
Top G
Barf 🤮
Glad to see Cal Chuchesta finally getting the flowers he always deserved👏👏
TRILOGY
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I was a little afraid when cal was going against lil dicky, but so glad they weighed lyricism over influence
The conversation of Eminem’s impact and the difference between him and Jay-Z is very interesting and brought some points that I’ve never heard. Hats off to you all
He said all of that when in reality what he wanted to say was “his opinion on rap isn’t because he’s white” 🤣😂
@@jfer8152 you'd be stuttering in front of the camera stfu
@@jfer8152thats not true it’s just how their catalogs and impact are viewed
@@wince9537 I think it’s clearly obvious Eminem’s opinion wouldn’t be as respected because he’s white. This is a valid opinion
@@godofnothing428 i disagree
I'm so glad Nav made it that far, definitely deserved
The way they sped past Kendrick vs Cole tho💀
Should’ve been tyler not cole
It's sad, but it's true.
Let's be real, is it even a competition? Kendrick straight up don't miss. I Can't even remember the last L he took. Cole, Kanye, M&M tho...
Peggy also has had few misses but realistically speaking Kendrick over Peggy.
i would have gone kendrick too but i honestly felt bad lmfao
@@33up24 kanye over kendrick only due to longevity and impact as well ifnluence. Them 2 are so close its unreal so i dont mind someone saying one other the other
so great to see underground artists such as lil peep be chosen over so many mainstream hits
is this: irony?
@@escherpainting8622 yea its a joke lol
Peep had some good songs where he actually rapped tbf
I love lil peep not all his songs but his first studio project was very solid and his posthumous albums are alright, not as bad as some others.. not as good as juices.. the first posthumous one was the best which was to be expected
@@choppercove as the documentary about him shows he was a remarkably diy artist, often being very hands on with the recording of his vocals. his sound, with all its double tracks, was definitively his own and though he had his cringe lyrics he was also very young and producing a lot of work in a tragically short length of time. love him or loathe him, posthumously he has had loads of imitators and with the pop punk revival seen through olivia rodrigo, willow, and mgk it certainly seems like pop culture is attempting to plug the hole he left. i certainly feel he had a lot of growing left to do as an artist and if he had lived i feel he would have found his way into the mainstream through hypothetical collabs with post malone or even drake
Fantano's seemingly all-encompassing knowledge of music really shines in the presence of other people
I'm really proud of Adam Calhoun to come this far! A well deserved win for sure.
Unironically better than these mumble crappers
@@isaacjones5687 😳
@@isaacjones5687 go back to the home grandpa
@@isaacjones5687 I thought you were joking, but you literally left sus ass racial comments on three other videos, which leaves me to wonder why you even watch the channel
@@isaacjones5687 this comment is oozing with boomer energy
Didn't expect to see Viper on this bracket but I'm glad he's getting recognized
Ya’ll Cowards Don’t Even Smoke Crack is fucking GOATed no one will ever top that masterpiece 🙏 Kanye < Viper
Mid viper
@@I00iiiMakebelieve VIPER IS THE FUCKING GOAAT
@@I00iiiMakebelieve youll cowards don't even smoke crack
@@I00iiiMakebelieve jojo fan calling viper mid lmao
I’m so happy you guys have finally grown to like the ex-Paramore bass player’s music. Glad to see him win this.
What are you talking about?
@@fakhrulsamli806 he doesn’t know😂
That’s an odd comparison but I rock with it
when he said Paramore would've been a much better and solid band if only the members had seen Jeremy Davis' amazing rap skills and added his verses onto Paramore songs, reinventing themselves as a mumble rap/pop-punk band, i felt that
Truly great that IceJJFish is getting the recognition he finally deserves. Truly the voice of our generation and deserves the Strong 10 he got on his single review (yes he was so good that melon gave him a 10 on a single)
Hes the rawest of them all
@@doggerlander on the floor single vs off the floor
Is he even a rapper? Like even if his songs were good they wouldn’t necessarily be rap songs
Cannot wait for a Kendrick interview by Fantano. It’s going to be epic.
Me too!!!
Kendrick: drops his entire life story
Fantano: Sure sure
@@hn6850 i'm giving that story a strong 5 to a light 6
@@joonaltf1398 good job
I want an Eminem and Kanye one more
Shoutout to Anthony (not Fantano) for fighting so hard for Eminem, he deserved that. Too much focus has been on his output since 2017 which is crazy cuz he put out music for 20 years prior to that.
lmao they are talking about “better rapper” and is pretty clear than eminem is a better RAPPER than kanye💀 people who don’t get this should read one more time
Yeah they kept adding more criteria which even still the influence his first three albums had is un matched
Love fantano's point about DOOM's legacy taking time to develop and comparing that to peggy. Often times true artistry is only widely appreciated years later, but the immediate impact is still heard by those looking for that individuality and uniqueness in music,
So glad to see Tyler the creators character from regular show win the whole thing. And they way they talked about his influence on the culture. Finally getting the flowers he deserves!
this was actually a really good conversation. so many good points were being made and brought to their conclusion
Melon would have picked JPEGMAFIA over Kendrick had he named himself PNGMAFIA instead
Why is this sending me 😂😂
The Eminem vs Jay Z point was genius on Fantano's part. I think NFR couldn't quite match Fantano's arguments from a more academic and cultural perspective, but if we get more of these fantano debates and discussions I'd be down for more of these colabs.
His point is fair, but Kanye’s opinions would certainly be significantly less respected that Em or Jay Zs
ive never watched these guys before but i really enjoyed the discussions you had with them. the different perspectives made for an incredibly entertaining listen. thanks anthony!
I’m a fan of NFR and think they put out solid content, but this conversation as well as the discussion on their channel just shows that Anthony is on another level. He’s consistently running circles around their opinions and clearly has exponentially more knowledge on some of the topics at hand. He has been in the game long enough to see past certain trends (as he points out) that the other guys still cling onto.
I think the non white guy seemed closer to his level. The white guy with the cap appears to me very much still a ‘normie’
Bruh I'm not seeing it
@@daboomchakalaka7898 bruh 💀
this is a damn good comment
Anthony’s a very well-spoken, comprehensible dude. He’s also got some years on them so experience is definitely a factor. Give the boys some time, they’re just getting started.
Fr tho it’s interesting to see Anthony’s knowledge and understanding of a wide variety of music
fellow 808s enjoyer 👋
yeah the problem still one, he knows music in general but he has 0 rap knowledge lil bro💀 the JPEG take is just crazy and consider I mostly listen to all rappers
@@ypsen.drugzzit's not lol JPEGMAFIA is a miles better rapper than future will ever be
Fantano and NFR work so well together. Would love to see more collabs in the future.
Funny how everyone immediately agreed when they got to Kendrick vs J. Cole
I literally still don't know who I'd pick, and they just heard the names and knew 😭
@@elans.8595I love J Cole. He is my favorite artist but if I’m being objective and not biased it’s easily Kendrick.
@@daboyfernando6033 bros being objective in an art form
@@astro.8888 lmao music is an opinion but there is also objectivity. 99% of people know Kanye is a better artist than Lil pump. Correct? It’s an opinion that Kanye is better artistically but it’s correct to all people, so much so that it is a fact
J. Cole is one of the Best from this time but Kendrick is already considered one of the Best of all time. It's really amazing see how Kendrick had gained massive respect from everyone in the industry from old heads, people from his generation and newer generations. And obviously Kendrick have influenced a lot of New rappers like JID for example
Wow I can’t believe the final matchup was Kendrick Lamar vs Tom Macdonald!
tom is just the goat🧛🏻🔥🔥🍇🍇
The fact that Lil Wayne searches his bars on Google to make sure that he doesn't repeat one line of his song when he's making a new song makes him one of the greatest, if not the greatest rapper imo.
Thank you. Wayne is so much better as a rapper and in my opinion has higher highs than Ye. Weezy over Ye easily
nah
@Eugene are you a 2008 Eminem fan
Lmao but he repeats himself all the time "3 lines like adidas" "blind like stevie wonder" "im the shit, yall just poop stains" he said all those at least 20 times 🤣
Really crazy they think Ye beats Weezy.
i love how they all agreed to Kendrick in 2 seconds
Unironically a fantastic video. The long awaited collab did not disappoint
You can see how much more Anthony understands than them. His arguments actually make sense
@@DJ-ce3hq to be fair he is more experienced at critiquing music. And having different opinions does not make someone ignorant or less eloquent.
Weird. Logic didn’t put himself in the list. So humble 🙏
i like listening to Melon debate a bout music. This format makes for a great discussion around music, trying to pin point the importance and legacy of these artists made a great video
Absolutely ecstatic to see Kodak win this. Makes me feel like a proud father.
Jokes aside I prefer him over cringe stuff like Kanye or Kendrick or Cole or those lames
@@billballinger5622ain’t no way bro called 3 of the best rappers of the century lame 💀
@@billballinger5622 broooo 💀
Wow! Pitbull placing first was insane to see! That comeback was mindblowing!
Love how the talk about how influential and important Eminem is to the genre and even just music as a whole, and then immediately pick Kanye over him with zero explanation.
because Ye's just better
@@SageOcs ye is worse than lupe, no way he passed em of em passed lupe
Ye’s more influential imo
@@godofnothing428 ye is better than em and lupe artistically, influentially, etc. the only thing they got over him is technical rap
@@omari3107 highly disagree but sure
Didn't think that Tom Macdonald was gonna get best rapper but I'm not complaining. Thank you for finally coming around to an amazing artist Anthony.
God Melon just can’t go a day without bashing on Eminem
Womp womp
Do more of these, this was so cool to watch. Very different perspectives, yet all valid and well thought out points.
calling eminem the mcdonald's of hip hop was the realest thing melon has ever said
Omg I’ve never heard more heavy canadian accents in my life.
They are definitely French Canadian, you can hear the French accent
One thing about Kendrick that's interesting is that few people seem to fully follow his sonic or concept lanes, which happens more with Kanye. Maybe it's because Kanye did a lot of it on his own or almost, which allows for copying more easily, or Kanye's lines aren't as deeply layered, or his albums not as insanely conceptual, but whatever it is, there's a lot more replicability in the industry from his music than from Kendrick's. But maybe it's just that, Kendrick is hard to copy because he reinvents the perspective from what he looks at music, thus each album has its own character name, where Kanye changes the music which he uses to express himself through.
Ye is more colourful.
I think Kanye’s antics are stuff that’s already been in the media, so people are fully aware that a Kanye has a deeper meaning. But Kendrick usually implicitly speaks on personal topics, which people will probably not clock on to immediately
Not as conceptual. Are you mad? Yeezus, 808’s, MBDTF, hell even JIK are all conceptual albums, far more experimental than all Kendrick albums with the exceptions of TPAB. Like are y’all okay?
Kendrick talks bout unique topics and expresses himself lyrically. It’s harder than copying Kanye’s sound(tho kanye did make talking ur personal issues in hip hop mainstream). Also Nas already does better than Kendrick at storytelling
@@Weru212 I said "Kanye changes the music which he uses to express himself through" to me that shows how experimental he is. And I'm not saying Kanye's albums aren't conceptual, but they don't tell a tight cohesive story like Kendrick's do. The story is more loose, it revolves things.
Lmao the Kendrick vs jcole bit was hilarious. Never seen a unanimous decision reached so quickly (deservedly so)
This was honestly such a great discussion
Kanye v Kendrick, that is always the question in my head. Kanye as musician, Kendrick as a story teller.
Kendrick all the way
hearing melon defend kanye feels strange but I'm here for it
So glad that 645AR was able to pull it out and take the win! Great to see the ability by the guys to recognize masterful lyricism!
Loved the convos
there was no way this wasn't coming down to Kanye vs. Kendrick in the end.
It might seem predictable but they are just so good
In terms of best rappers of all times I would probably say, Andre 3000, Biggie Smalls, Kendrick Lamar and Eminem. All of these guys I’m their prime showed exceptional feats of rap performances.
Ah yes, Andre three hundred, my favorite rapper
@@Python-xs2iv lol typo. You knew who I meant haha
@@zaiah9252 Yeah, the migos
Cmom man really ? No nas no Tupac ?
@@ozzebeatz1519 I love Tupac but he’s not in my top 5. Nas is someone I want to listen to more but after Illmatic, he’s certainly Greta but didn’t stick out to me as much.
Love this format for analysing and reviewing music/artists
Glad to see content in 4k
Wasn’t expecting Fantano to give praise to the GOAT Kid Rock and his underrated classic “Bad Reputation” and giving Tom McDonald’s the second best of all time award was rather spicy and a hot take but people will understand why in like a year
Having a debate/conversation about music with people who are equally as passionate & interested sounds like a good time. Rarely happens for me though. A lot of people don’t nerd out over music like this unfortunately
Me too bro unfortunately
Fantano was trying his best not to namedrop races
this is just a straight-up awesome respectful music conversation. More of this.
Hot take: Peggy is the best experimental and non-mainstream rapper out there at the moment
not a hot take tbh, super arguable for sure :)
Arguable at best but there's plenty of others out there
@@TheHonoredMadman can you name some? im looking for some new intersting stuff =)
So glad you rewarded NAV for his consistency, finally getting some recognition
Such a deep conversation about possibly the least important information possible
So humble that NAV personally asked to not be included so that these lesser rappers could have fun aswell
Love seeing Fantano on other podcasts!
The collab we never knew we needed!!!
Bro we all knew
@@polarhero57 would be great
@@polarhero57 We need Tom MacDonald and Hivemind
Hahaha. Haha. Ha. That reminds me of the time Riley, Graydon, and Fantano kidnapped me and force-fed me the body of their vehicular manslaughter victim.
The collab everyone asked for*
This is awesome. We Need more videos do this 3 dudes.🔥
HOLY SHIT! i'm beyond honored my edit made it to the thumbnail! 🙏🙏🙏
Damn, this had a lot of close match-ups. Glad to see Bladee saw the top spot!
8:57 I feel like people who are into MF Doom and Peggy are the same ones who are hitting up Dead & Company b2b Tipper at music festivals due to their ability to mix avant-garde stuff with their bangers.
This the craziest comment i ever read
Bro wat 💀💀
This is a really good trio.keep it up
FINALLY!! THE COLLAB WEVE BEEN WAITING FOR!
It feels illegal to see a fantano video in 4K resolution, lmao.
Let's be honest we all knew who was gonna win this😂😂. 3 Kendrick stans were deciding who is the best rapper
Actually, nfr podcast are Cole Stans as well. So it wasn’t automatically Kendrick
we NEEDED this
All three of these guys make excellent points!
"I keep talking about these records like a broken recorder"
this was a super respectable conversation. fun to watch
I feel like young kids don’t understand the impact Eminem had. I don’t even listen to rap and Em is one of my favorite rappers. Kanye has some hits but Eminem was as big as Drake back in the day. He was much more commercial than Kanye has ever been. Kanye is for rap heads. Eminem went pop
popularity doesn’t always equal influence
This.
Wasn't into rap that much back in the day, yet knew lots of Eminem tracks by heart.
The only stuff from Kanye that i recognized back then was sample from "Stronger" playing in obscure places and "Heartless".
"I don't listen to rap and em is one of my favorite rappers" perfectly sums up why people will always debate whether or not em's influence is important enough to make him the GOAT. This conversation is sparked from a love for hip hop, not because Eminem was the first white person to do it well enough to be in the running.
@@jordanbeck2660 I think that he being white is a big reason why he is not as respected as other rappers by ppl who listen a lot to the genre, i mean, structurally his music is insanely good and he's influenced rappers from all over the world. I still don't understand the genius that ppl see in Ye, listening to his songs i see why ppl like it, but not why ppl venerate it, my favorite thing about him are the samples, but not because he makes them better, but because i go hear the songs that he sampled, which most of the time i prefer than his songs lol. Anyway, Eminem isn't better than kendrick, so the end result would be the same imho.
@@omari3107that’s just simply not true. You can say popularity doesn’t equal quality sure. But popularity ABSOLUTELY has something to do with influence. How the fuck would say Biggie, Tupac, etc. influence the game if nobody fucking heard of them.
This bracket was missing so many names!! DOOM, Nas, Black Thought, Jack Harlow, Andre 3000…
Jack Harlow alt account discovered
Nice try
😂😂😂
Sure, Jack
NAV too
first fantano video ive watched in a long time, this is a fantastic discussion, one of the best vids ive seen in a long time. i still can't believe the comments section is full of people trying to make jokes for upvotes. why cant we just talk about the video itself
I agree bruh
How u know its the best video in a Long time if u aint watch a vid in a Long time tho
i could watch these guys together all day every day
Anthony doing a bracket with these guys is like a tennis player, playing basketball with a hand behind his back and still winning. He’s not a rap fan he’s a music fan but still makes way more valid points.
I feel like there should be a distinction between best rapper and best rap artist. Kanye makes great rap songs but I have never considered him a great rapper. Eminem is the opposite, GOAT level rapper who doesn't really make great songs anymore. Kendrick is someone who excels in both lanes.
fr
Love to see the Peggy appreciation
you can find someone to replace Kanye but who is gonna replace Eminem
Great great great discussion, I’d watch 10 more of these
The flo rida sweep was unexpected but so deserved, thanks for shedding light on one of my fave rappers!
That LCD Soundsystem sweater is goated
Yes
Yes
NFR boys on the come up. Beautiful video 👏🏽
10:48 the big 3!!
Do a series of this with every musician from every genre.
Why melon dripping like Timmy Turner
i love how they spent so much time discussaing and disagreeing on each one until they got to j cole kendrick and they all agreed in a second without a second thoughtin the amoiunt of time it took to say their names
Funny that in the Jay-Z v Eminem topic, Fantano was finding every nuanced way to say “Em isn’t respected by many rap listeners because he’s white.” It’s not a coincidence he used the Beastie Boys as his extra example.
Ik this was a while ago but I think it’s different, I feel like a lot of Eminem’s mainstream musical fame can be contributed through him being white, part of the reason why he’s still seen as relevant when his past 7 albums after the first three are viewed by hip hop fans as sort of garbage
BS take on Eminem. I don't listen to his stuff much but it's undeniable that if you had a track with "ft. Eminem" or "ft. Ye", you would see more flocking to the former than the latter. No one can deny Eminem's lyrical ability which is unmatched, even if it doesn't play in the club or in the car. The difference is Ye is on social media clowning around for attention whilst Eminem makes his art and recedes into the private life he prefers. That's why this judgement is cloudy, but make no mistake, whenever people think of top genre defining artists, Eminem floats to mind. The fact that Ye has come out to basically show the world that he's a crap person has solidified it more, because in both of their work, a lot of their personality gave it depth - now it doesn't even feel right to listen to Ye's early work because of what we know now.
ye is still better musically and doesn’t have 5 terrible albums like eminem does. get over it.
@@omari31075 terrible albums? Like I don’t listen to a lot of em but MMLP 2 is a classic so get the fuck out there already. Kamikaze we got angry em back which is always a plus. I’m guessing you’re putting relapse and recovery on their which I mean they aren’t his best but certainly aren’t “terrible”. Maybe Encore still I wouldn’t call it terrible. Last two are what? MTBMB which fair though I would call it average. Lastly revival and yeah revival was absolutely garbage.
I think the best wrapper is definitely wax. It's not super crinkly and has a good weight to it.
Funny that Wax is a name of an actual rapper