Amber has no humiliation she is so embarrassing I am so amazed that she doesn’t realize that we see through that placating that I’ve heard Johnny himself advised his team to use upon her to figure out what they were going to do with this woman. 😭😩😬
She’s really really really bad on the stand! I’m actually embarrassed for her. She has no idea how bad she looks! God awful! Her attorney must just be CRINGING!
I’ve been a lawyer for 27 years, and this is hands down the most bizarre behavior I have ever seen on the witness stand. It is brutally uncomfortable to watch.
As a woman (answering Scott's query and not a body language expert) I watch this and cannot imagine anyone believing her stories. I'm astonished that her attorneys would believe her (I know they don't have to believe her.) and that she thinks she is believable. I'm simply shocked. I can't begin to explain the anger and frustration I feel for actual victims, because Amber is a terrific example of the reason that we cannot simply believe someone who has a victim story. False accusations also horribly victimize the accused person. It is sick. Real victims should be believed. Fake victims should be held accountable legally.
As someone with a DV history I agree. Knuckleheads like her make it harder to help in legit situations to protect victims. She should be held accountable. I feel so sorry for her baby girl, if she survives.
Lawyers are there to make money, not necessarily believe you…like criminal defense lawyers. Everyone deserve legal representation regardless. But I’m with you, I don’t believe her either. ❣️
@@cherylann594 I think more than winning this case JD just wants his name cleared so he doesn’t end up like Kevin spacey who was kicked off films and no longer works in Hollywood. So, even if he loses the trial Hollywood will reinstate him and cancel her. To me, that’s best case scenario because public attention, acceptance and stardom mean more to her than money. Just my opinion though. I think it’s clear he will win the trial though.
I really don't see attorneys allowing all these loopholes (esp those that defies even common logic) and not tightening it up. I think it's more of a case of AH insisting on her own storytelling so not much left to do except to do some alignment to some PTSD/DV terms of common usage.
left school@16yo, such ambition... oh you're a model too Amber? traded what for classes, oh I think I understand squagirl... such the loser, hard to believe that was last yr seems like longer
Same, she wipes get face and nose, but no mucus or liquid is built up in her nose, when you cry, both eyes and nose water up, hence ppl snizzle to keep your nose from dripping.
Amber Heard never showed one single second of looking afraid of Johnny. I've been abused by a partner. You don't talk about it with only anger. You show anxiety, a lack of eye contact while recounting it and in my case a sense of shame. Even though it wasn't my fault. She never once struck me as someone who has been abused in any way. Instead, there's overwhelming anger and bitterness coming off of her.
As a trauma psychologist with over 25 years in practice, when someone is in a life or death traumatic situation, the brain and body automatically go into fight or flight mode and the social engagement system temporarily goes off line. If A’s life was truly in danger, she wouldn’t be looking in Johnny’s eyes trying to connect to him…”where’s Johnny???” She would be fighting him or if unable, she would freeze and feign death. My opinion is we are watching a severe personality disorder with an insecure preoccupied attachment style and bad acting. Excellent analysis! Love you guys!
I agree! And I do feel sorry for her for digging her hole deeper and deeper, knowing she can't help it. Wish she would get help but for that she'd first have to acknowledge that she's got a problem, and it's not JD. And I don't think she's at this point yet, if she'll ever get there. I don't wish her to die a bitter and lonely person...
In her testimony she did freeze but it's not shown in this video. I don't really like the generalisation you have applied here. People do try to connect with their abusers in the moment. It is a survival technique, especially in cases of repeated abuse like dv where the victim has some understanding of what is most likely to de-escalate the abuser. I'm not saying this is what happened here, but please be careful applying these generalisations, as victims are already afraid of not being believed.
@@danipaul7033 I hear what you are saying and I agree there is a “fawn” response to abusers. I’m speaking purely from a neurological perspective. In a moment of terror the brain responds by shutting down anything that hinders survival. If a victim is going to be immediately harmed (as AH claimed), the instinctive response isn’t to connect. She may have before or after (and sometimes we are talking seconds), but the brain seeks protection at that critical moment.
As a woman and one that was abused and also as a child….there is absolutely nothing in her voice/testimony etc that rings true when it comes to the violence. I cannot wrap my head around this, how someone can sit there and lie for hours. Terrifying
I feel the same way, dear. I was abused as a child. I'm 50 now. I still cant talk about it without crying, or hear another talk about their abuse. With her, I feel disgust. I'm really sorry for what you went thru...
@@Ania-cd2sh I agree. Johnnys attorney will have this entire week to prepare for her cross examination. He has every piece of the footage of her testimony and her deposition. Get ready for an extreme case of crazy next week when they start to dismantle her testimony. She will probably loose her cookies on the stand. I hate to say it but this is a worse case scenario for a Narcissist heavy/BPD personality. Her exposure will be absolute and her supply of attention will be crippling. If she doesn’t get help… on a lighter note, she hasn’t yet been potty trained so she is still a puppy- Amber Turd🐝
What I didn't hear anyone say, is when she's crying and repeating her last sentence, she's resisting the urge to yell "line" because she's forgotten the script.
Normally if I see someone breakdown while telling a story I cry right along with them it's like I'm reliving it too. When I see her testimony I feel *nothing*, that tells me more than anything.
@Tanika That isn't a universal truth. I feel empathy towards quite a few people I don't like if they're telling a true story of a harrowing event in their lives. Aside from that, if someone is telling a falsehood, harrowing or not, why should I feel empathy? I am a chronic sympathetic crier in most cases. But I didn't cry for Amber, either. Nor did I feel "nothing." No. I was disgusted with her. My reading of her is that she is disingenuous in the extreme. She thought that the bigger the lie, the more awful the alleged experience, the more people would pity her. Well, that only works if you're believable. From what I've observed, to most people who see her testimony, Amber isn't believable in the slightest. So no, I won't cry for lies which are crafted in order to destroy someone else.
@bandgeekforlife EXACTLY! I'm the same way, esp when it comes to DV & SA, as I'm a survivor & feel other's pain as well, as an empath to the extreme. Sometimes it's ridiculous bc it extends to the abused, dumped pets in our country. But I openmindedly listened to everything & AH's testimony (along with audios showing her abusive side) brings no feelings genuine feelings! Or I would cry too! It felt & appeared like horrible acting. And this subject is quite sensitive to me, as my daughter was also a victim of SA (also referring to in addition to me, not AH). Mt daughter had a plethera of real evidence, including confessions thru text that the police verified. Grand Jury endicted the 2 guy & then they hired some high priced lawyer from a much bigger city & our DA dropped the charges (DA changed mid-case, the previous DA wouldn't have dropped them, he wanted to nail them. But new DA wanted an easier fight as a new DA, so she dropped charges & my daughter was put thru extra hell for nothing!). I have true empathy & deep emotions fir real victims. So ignore this person who likes to jump in & attack those with a differing opinion, incl elderly survivors of Abuse. Not worth the effort. The jury spoke & the vast majority of the public has spoken!
I FELT extremely uncomfortable trying to watch Amber ‘perform’. She wasn’t testifying. She was performing (not very well). I FELT the lies, I FELT the deception, I FELT it when she would suddenly switch roles between HER truth and stealing Johnny’s (1 example being that I believe it was JD who barricaded himself in the bathroom, not her). I FELT it when she would insert exaggerations, twist the truth, add random spur of the moment fabrications, make mistakes in her script and try to correct it on the spot. I FELT those completely WRONG and AWKWARD emotions which FELT so wrong because she doesn’t understand the feelings she’s trying to display. She was displaying emotions she THOUGHT she understood but when you’ve never actually been a victim and your level of empathy is almost zero, it’s not surprising she got it wrong. I BELIEVED her feelings were real when she talked about JD saying that nobody likes her, nobody wants her around. Anyone that narcissistic would be very angry if someone said negative things about them. Her anger and contempt were the ONLY feelings I believed. I couldn’t watch her ‘testimony’ for more than a few minutes at a time. I’m intuitively empathic (a super BUMMER not a super POWER) and her performance disgusted me. After a few minutes of being really uncomfortable then really angry, I would have to stop the video just so I could regulate all the negative emotions I felt after watching (A COUPLE MINUTES OF IT!). AH is deeply disturbed, completely devoid of empathy, and desperately needs psychiatric intervention. Her performance was shameful and absurd. I couldn’t believe people bought her story 6 years ago and NOW, I just hope everyone can see the lies and her terrible acting.
It saddens me she is now a mother. We all know what she will do to this child and that breaks my heart. I guess now we know what she was writing down all those days after she got ridiculed for her death stare towards the stand with no emotion in the very beginning. I believe she was taking notes. Then studied them, and like you said, tried to use it in her own testimony.
@@okincbeach9862 It’s extremely sad. Her behavior patterns all feel self serving. Sometimes they feel maliciously self serving, like the stories she’s fabricating and exaggerating about JD and other times her actions feel self serving in a “gaining sympathy” way like paying for a surrogate to give birth to your child (nothing wrong with this) but so the public can see you as a mother and think this ‘big bad drug addicted canceled movie star’ is suing her for outrageous reasons. “Feel sorry for me and vilify him because look I have a new baby”. It really is evil. My heart aches for that baby girl.
I could have written every word of your comment, 100% how I feel, down to not being able to watch her except in small doses. And as a trained actress myself she annoys the crap out of me, how did she ever get any roles with her combo of non-empathy and melodramatics??? ... 🙄
As someone that has experienced domestic battery, her story was b.s. from the get go. A man slaps you, and tears come to your eyes and you either get angry or start cowering. You don’t laugh and sit through more slapping. Nothing makes me angrier than someone playing a victim and taking away from women that have been beaten and men falsely accused.
Yes! I'm slapped and I laugh. I continue to laugh through a second slap and I don't dodge, block or do anything other than just wait for the next hit. After being slapped hard enough to be knocked off the freaking couch! Nope. Can't follow that line of thinking.
Men might find her even less credible. A lot of men have gotten bruised. They know how much damage a punch can do. Meanwhile not a touch of anything on her skin. Also, I’m sure they had their share of encountering people like that in their lives. We all have.
I’m female and a trauma survivor. When I see others talk about traumatic experience, I get an instant rush of empathy - mirror neurons - common survivors’ response - we recognise our own. Amber Heard did not produce that response in me. Having seen and felt empathy for Depp on the stand, I tried so hard to take Mark’s advice to not rush to judgment, but my whole body rejected her - I felt nauseated watching her and at one point realised I’d pushed myself backwards into the couch and drawn my legs up tight to get as far away from her as possible. Interestingly the words that came into my mind unbidden were ‘dangerous’ and ‘threat’. Felt very angry that she claimed being slapped in the face by her partner was ‘the worst thing that could EVER happen to anyone’ Sorry??!! I’m not excusing a slap to the face - if it happened - but jiminy crimble, if that’s the worst thing she can imagine, she’s a lucky, lucky girl. An insult to anyone who’s actually been exposed to abuse, and my god, histrionic
Same. I'm hoping an actual survivor got into the jury, although I doubt it. Some of the recordings I've heard between the 2 what she laughs at him, talks over him, calls him a joke, etc is so familiar to me. It was not the voice of a victim that I was hearing, it was that of the perpetrator. As an actual victim, you'd never try to goad your abuser that way. Never! I was always trying to calm things down, "you're right, I was wrong, I didn't mean to say that, I want doing that on purpose." I'm with you 100%. Can't listen to her.
It's funny, I said the exact phrase "we know our own" discussing this somewhere else. And somebody who of course is probably 19 and knows nothing about abuse said "You're not her, everyone reacts differently to things" Yes and No. What triggers someone in to feeling thos things may be different, but the way somebody who has been abused acts can be seen a mile away. Couldn't agree more with this. Sadly, what this case is actually about, defamation, is nearly impossible for Johnny to win legally because the burden to prove he didn't abuse her is on him and that's pretty much impossible to prove. However I think in the court of Public opinion, which this is really about, he's winning by a landslide.
Thank you for sharing your story. AH saying the slap was the worst thing that happened is ridiculous! She has apparently had a pattern of abuse - claimed she has been sexually abused in school. She is abhorrent.
I was in an abusive marriage. It doesn’t matter how hard you try to hide any bruises, scratches, chipped teeth, black eyes, SOMEONE always notices and says something. To describe being hit over and over again and being a very public person who’s appearance is always scrutinized I find it difficult to believe no one noticed anything.
I thought the same thing. But also remember the testimony from the cops & every one else who never saw a mark on her. I remember at one point my doctor asked me point blank honey are you in an abusive relationship- cos bruise on my temple & under eye. Still have a dent in my nose. I found a letter I had written to my ex that I don’t even recognize myself, I literally wrote “Baby I’m sorry I made you hit me” I was so terrified of him, I was constantly apologizing, as if it was my fault, hell I believed it was my fault, always trying to cajole him & make everything ok, cater for him. I even had a stutter. You know you’re terrified to step out of line. The way she spoke to him on those tapes? The way she moved & spoke on the stand- all aggressive & dominant. No way in hell I would have ever spoken to my ex like that. Not unless I wanted to get beat down. I haven’t been that girl in 20 years. All I felt watching her was rage. I wanted to slap her & scream how dare you. Which makes no sense- committing violence I know. But I want to shake her & scream this isn’t ok. You don’t know what it feels like, it isn’t ok for you to diminish us by making false accusations.
I don’t think she would have followed anything her lawyers said unless she agreed with them. She seems to think she’s the smartest/best person in any room so why would she listen to her lawyers?
As a survivor of DV for years. I was " slapped" across the face which left marks that no amount makeup could cover. Also was slapped on the temple , had a knot rise the size of golf ball for days. In NO WAY would I ever antagonize my abuser such as she did via audio evidence. I am offended as a TRUE DV SURVIVOR by her actions.
I agree. If a woman is abused , even one time , you will not antagonize the abuser because you know you are placing yourself in danger and at his mercy. You also know he will have no mercy because he feels entitled to do as he pleases with you. Early on in my own abusive relationship I made the mistake of actually getting angry and trying to stand up for myself. The result was an open handed slap that busted my left eardrum. A permanent reminder of what abusers are capable of if you talk back.
Amber and her sister have said their father abused them. Those comments she has said Johnny said, which DOES NOT match Johnny's style of speaking or his personality or anything remotely like him, but the comments "you wanna go little girl!" "you think you're a man!" sound like what an abusive, alcohol Texan man might say to his daughters when they seem to defy him. When a liar tells stories it always helps them to remember when they use some facts. I feel like Amber has peppered in some of the abuse her father gave her as a young girl.
Chase, I’m with you. She is projecting what she did to him. She is a terrible actress. There are huge numbers of people speaking out on this case who are survivors and nothing about her feels right. Survivors recognize each other and recognize abusers. She is 100% no doubt in my mind, the abuser. And she is a terrible liar. I’ll support your reputation on this one absolutely!
Also, her doing all this sobbing without a tear. Horrible actress. When survivors discuss their trauma the vast majority can’t look at other people. They are too ashamed and scared. They have to look down. Nothing about this looks sounds or feels real.
I have PTSD and I can tell you that the way she is recalling things is fake fake fake and also very insulting to us who have it. There are details that you will remember and some that will be confusing….but the details of those ones you recall are emotionally challenging to articulate, but you will be able to tell in detail. She’s grasping because the story isn’t real.
This woman gives me the feeling she swindled her parents. Since she was young, she learned to get away from everything by lying and manipulating. That is how she thought she could keep charming her way out of court. But she learned that the world was not as easy to fool...
As a woman reading another woman, my intuition says she's being incredibly deceptive. The over exaggerated facial expressions, the amount of detail in stories and contradictory statements. A lot of rehearsal has gone into her testimony and the depositions of those who are supporting her. One girl couldn't remember "Mega" bottle of wine and kept consistently stating a "magnum" bottle of wine. What's worse there are real survivors of dv who are incredibly pissed that someone would lie about something so serious.
@@erykaton170 Thank you for sharing that. I had to look it up and I guess anything is possible but that's an awfully huge bottle to be lugging around which makes the story even crazier. It seemed like the witness used that term as often as she could through her testimony as if she were coached. It sounded unnatural to the number of times it was used.
@@constanceenglish4520 I couldn't agree with you more. Every witness Amber's team put up was coached. While I believe Johnny drinks and takes drugs, they exaggerated intentionally to try to make people believe he could become violent when he was intoxicated. From their description every surface must have been stained with wine, covered in drugs and shards of glass. It's ridiculous.
Agreed. I feel like a deeper dive would find even more. Amber and her sister have said their father abused them. Those comments she has said Johnny said, which DOES NOT match Johnny's style of speaking or his personality or anything remotely like him, but the comments "you wanna go little girl!" "you think you're a man!" sound like what an abusive, alcohol Texan man might say to his daughters when they seem to defy him. When a liar tells stories it always helps them to remember when they use some facts. I feel like Amber has peppered in some of the abuse her father gave her as a young girl.
I’m a woman and Scott is correct there was something off I sensed it right away and couldn’t put my finger on it but I didn’t believe her. The longer she spoke the more aggravated I became, I only sporadically watched in day 2 of her testimony because of that. After watching your video I realized she has no real emotion in her voice, that’s what was fake. Plus all the embellishments and what you brought up about past and present tense. Great job guys❤️🌺
listening to someone relaying a traumatic event can be awful, sad, disturbing and yet still compelling but with Amber you just want to turn off, I think its her lack of authenticity its a gut feeling. The analysis of the behaviour panel are so interesting and spot on and puts some science to my feelings excellent work.
I agree. I was listening to a group talk about when you watch a victim tell their story about an event that you should feel sympathy your natural reaction tells wether they’re truthful or not. If you feel revulsion they’re lying. If you want to help them and feel sympathy the story is true . We’re naturally wired to feel these things.
Unfortunately, you're not looking at people the way we really are. Everywhere you go, every interaction you have in society, has the potential to be just as deceptive as what she's doing on that stage. Sorry podium. Ever try to negotiate a car sale? How long have you owned it? Oh, I've had it for a while. Is there anything wrong with it? Nothing that I've really noticed? It runs great. How does it shift? Perfect. Well more specifically, how does it shift going from 45 miles an hour to 60 miles an hour it's going uphill because that's what I'm gonna do when I come to test drive it. Well, actually it does seem to hesitate a little. Thanks, I'm not interested. (Hang up) We lie, because we're human beings and we all lie. But she's personality disorder and she's in this for revenge against him because he didn't want her anymore and that's a sign of borderline personality disorder mixed with narcissism and it's very toxic.
As a rape victim with PTSD, I have never been as upset over how people talk about rape as I was seeing her blatantly lie about it on the stand. I generally avoid ever accusing anybody about lying about stuff like this, as an advocate for people with mental health issues this is a topic where I try to stay fairly diplomatic, but I lost my sh*t when I saw it. This video really validated what my instinct told me, so thank you for that, guys ❤️ I was watching Emily D. Baker's Livestream, and as a former DA she was at a loss for words. I don't care what diagnose AH has, diagnoses don't make you a liar/abuser/criminal. The majority of people with mental health issues don't abuse people, and that includes people with BPD and HPD, but there are people with mental illness, just like with every other group, who are a*holes. Having ADHD and bipolar (like JD) I appreciate you guys didn't focus that much on it, bc even if I can see the behaviors too, the relevance is minimal if not irrelevant. What makes you a shitty person is only determined by who, not what, you are and after this, I'd say she qualifies.
I'm so sorry you went through that. Thank you for sharing your perspective as a survivor. I was watching this on EDB live too and couldn't believe what I was seeing. One thing that has been quite encouraging to me is watching how many people are coming forward with honest conversations about mental health from this trial. Mental illness may help explain peoples actions but never excuse the actions
Been there and we understand . As a a Survivor and those of us that work with them can see something was soooo off but we never want to dismiss a woman’s complaint because we have been dismissed so much but it does not feel right. I can not do body language interrogation but can see things that don’t fall into almost everyone of the people I have ever worked with . Idk makes me sad because it is so highly publicized and hope it does not set things back for survivors!
@@xoxolivgrace Thank you, and yes it's so encouraging and I'm so glad that the conversation is expanding to include all victims now, it makes me so happy ❤️
Maybe Amber should have taken acting classes before this trial. She is so certain she's smarter and better than everyone. This drives me nuts as I've had PTSD for years from abuse and an attempted murder/ kidnapping. This woman is so full of it! Watching a movie can trigger memories from 40 years ago! I get sick and shaky and feel faint after 40 years! I hate women who pull this and then say they're speaking for abused and sexually assaulted women! It's disgraceful. She's not speaking for me!
As a survivor of DV, I felt insulted, and borderline violated, by her testimony. Her story sounds like she studied, was told, heard or read what she believes needs to be in a DV narrative. I spent seven years inside a fairly brutal relationship, sexual violence was involved. She does not present or retell, at least in my opinion, her experience in a way I would expect.
How about her 'perfect victim' comment in her Dateline interview? I am survivor of a much milder case of DV and I still have more trauma than she did in her testimony. It's insulting, disgusting and vile. She deserves everything negative that she's getting. Thank you very much for sharing. :)
Yeah, go to my responses above & tell @tanika ! Bc I have the same sentiment, she had the nerve to call me a misogynist, amongst other insults trying to defend that abusive woman. Unbelievable. With that response, sounds like she's reciting something she's read & not lived thru. I'm so disgusted by this woman & SHE set women back by lying for revenge of not getting what she wanted.
Later in the trial, on an audio recording, she very graphically describes, to him in the recording, the “hurt” him leaving her to visit his daughter for a couple of hours as physical hurt.
I actually had to turn off her testimony after a little while. It made me angry and it was disturbing. I felt sick to my stomach. I finished watching it later because I wanted to see her lies with my own eyes. You guys are right on with the female intuition.
I have also. For me it’s triggered so much anxiety which I thought I’d conquered. She’s a real piece of work. Thank goodness for the majority of good people who can recognise her evilness. 🙏
When I see or even hear someone crying, I myself start to cry, cause I feel their sadness. This ain't it. If anything, I started getting goosebumps and feeling some anxiety because I actually felt scared of the kind of person she has to be in order to pull something like this.
Yeah I'd say I generally really care about people's feelings, but with her I only felt disgust and loathing and an incredible urge to be as far away from her as possible. Sending her to the moon isn't far away enough. Honestly, I find her a bit terrifying.
Oh, exactly. I'm not having an empathic reaction to her either. Oddly, I want to (out of benefit of the doubt or something) but can't. Instead it's all just grating.
As a woman who has been in an abusive relationship, I find her testimony to be the most phony thing I've ever seen. When I'm talking about my experiences I don't want to make eye contact with a dozen+ strangers... I dont get more animated, I shrink in. I don't want to continually look at my abuser over and over again. She is not acting like the victim here.
I totally agree. I suppose everyone reacts differently but, even though it has been many years since I escaped my situation, I still weep. I have never been histrionic, just quietly very sad. Only after twenty years I am able to talk and admit it happened. I think my biggest emotions were shame and embarrassment (that I stayed)
It's the hardest thing in to world to talk about for me ....! I can't even imagine trying to describe in detail everything at one time. I couldn't do it. It's too much for me . I
You can’t judge someone else’s behaviour because it’s different from yours! Sad you haven’t learned that from living in a abusive relationship. It’s like when raped women doesn’t get believed because they don’t act like society think they should act. And women are always judged harder. Reading the comments here are frightening.
I'm a DV survivor. She is just an awful woman. You guys do your lie detection by watching body language. I don't have to go that. I can tell she's lieing from my own experiences. There's a certain amount of shame we (DV survivors) have after being beaten. We feel shame, sadness, humiliation. We have trouble holding eye contact if we have to talk and tell someone what happened. Not Amber, she constantly aims her answers to the jury. She preaches to them, holds eye contact. She basically stares the jury down as she describes a bottle (supposedly) being violently inserted in her lower area. A real victim/ Survivor cannot easily talk about the things done to us, we are embarrassed. The other thing that tells me she's lieing is how she describes her injuries. She talks of makeup covering everything up after a beating, black eyes, broken noses etc. I'm disabled now bc of what I lived through. After an experience bruises don't always start immediately. So make may not be needed until a day or two later when the bruises are dark. You can't cover up the swelling you have after being hit in the face and head. You get hit in the eye hard enough, your skin puffs out around your eyes with fluid filled blister like bags under your eye and above your eye. Makeup doesn't cover that. If your lip is split open you can't cover that. The last thing that verifies her lies. When she tells of the table with the box of cocaine and using tampon applicators to snort it with. Any person who has been around coked up people and who used to use too laughs at the idea that table said "drug addict". If there had truly been a box of coke and people were doing lines or smoking it... The table would be a mess the ashtrays would be full of cigg butt's bc most people chain smoke when high. Those glasses of beer wouldn't be do close to the coke bc you don't Want your coke to get wet. Those glasses are full of beer. Also I doubt JD was snorting through a tampon applicator. Even if he don't have a straw he'd use money or just a rolled up piece of paper. So that's my lie detector.... Her mockery of domestic violence is appalling. Once again she's an awful excuse for a human being.
This. As someone haunted by the empty eyes I saw when it happened, her testimony is a slap in the f ing face. I couldn't look my new partner in the eye for a year. It's been 8 years, and I am still scared to experience conflict. At my job, with my family. When someone accidentally hit my car recently, I froze and couldn't confront them about the damage. Still doing therapy. Her story is infuriating.
I was an ER nurse for over 20 years and have spoken with many victims of domestic violence, and have never seen this type of recount. I have heard she gave the performance of her life. I would say a bad one. Way over the top, especially after so many years passing since the incident. She said “ this changed my life forever”, but went ahead and married him.
Bring it!!! All this cow saw was, fame, money, lifestyle, and becoming somebody. JD had a horrible upbringing. I think he married Heard because she is so much like his mother's personality and if he could get this conscious void creature to love/accept him he would finally have his mother's love. So he has some real issues that need intense therapy. His mom is gone now and he did well by her in spite of the way she parented/treated him. Amber needs to be gone too and she is sinking her own boat.
I am a woman who has been through sexual assault and domestic abuse and while I know that not all victims behave or react in exactly the same way, I can tell you that y’all were spot on when you suggested that women who have been through this would likely feel intuitively that her stories feel “off”. I have shared my painful stories with 2 different therapists over many years, and EVEN in a one-on-one safe space with a women I emotionally trusted, I couldn’t even look my own therapists in the face when recounting my stories. Y’all were right about how you “go inward” when sharing these traumas. She is doing the performance of her life for that jury and I hope they can see what all the women like me see.
YES!!! I've always made myself as small as possible and I don't even look someone in the eye. I feel like they can look right through me and see what had happened to me. Like they can see the images in my head. If that makes sense.
Gosh, I’m so sorry to hear you experienced this - thanks for validating what I was picking up on - I hate that you have experience with dv but so much appreciate you sharing your insights
I am the same. I always look down. Maintaining Eye contact is impossible when I am recalling the abuse I experienced. I can’t imagine ever being able to do what AH did in that Courtroom with those Jurors.
Her account of the sexual abuse was graphic and shocking. So shocking that it’s not believable she can recount anything without covering her eyes or at least closing them. But that is a good point- everyone reacts/behaves differently.
I usually cry actual tears and get choked up with the most basic things. Puppy videos? I cry. Cute babies doing cute things? I cry. And while she was telling the most gruesome details I just felt nothing, not a single tear. I can't tell why, but I can't connect with her.
As a true survivor of domestic violence,she seems like someone who actually believes her own lies and has dug herself a hole so deep she will never find a way out.
Domestic abuse is a series of painful beatings which destroy the victim's self-concept and incites trauma and fear. Facing your abuser is difficult. She displays absolutely no fear, just defiance, and disdain. This is just plain spite.
12:39 INNER EYE ROLL 🙄!I want to peel my face off 😱listening to this poor attempt at drama. As a woman who has been abused, this is very hard for me to believe. Not only does the "bad acting" give her away but her story makes zero sense!
My ex husband smashed a mirror when I was in the bath and it fell into the water. I froze, didn’t slide about all over it. I was terrified. I can’t recognise domestic abuse in her narrative and cannot believe or empathise with what she says. I am hugely protective of other women who have been treated badly but this sits uncomfortably with me.
Whoa, smashed a mirror while you were in the bath, omg, I froze when I read that. Yes, you would freeze, your mind stopped on the spot. Omg, how not to injure yourself. Is he coming back with something else/worse, which way to move or not move, OMG!!! I am so sorry you experienced that and more. I am so glad you are out of that life-threatening situation. This cow has not seen or experienced domestic violence or sexual abuse!!!!! She's thinking out of a movie script mind where she is the main character and the stunt double and waiting for the director to say CUT!!!
I have PTSD, and I 100% agree with you guys, it doesn’t feel authentic, it doesn’t read in the body language in a way that is understandable. Think it’s awesome what you guys do, and it makes me so sad that someone would come out and say they have this and take away from true survivors.
I've heard that narcissistic abuse causes PTSD and I'm currently still having to put up with it because I can't escape my abuser as she's the mother of my child (a covert narcissist) and I wonder if I have ptsd or not. I already have other issues such as ADHD and autism and the anxiety and depression so it's hard to know if I have it or not but it does cause me a lot of stress. I'm glad the public opinion of her is what it is because these type of people crave the attention of believing they're victims. I just want this case to be over with now and her to be exposed and have to lay in the bed she's made for herself. I hope you can recover from your trauma because it's awful. Good day to you.
I am 62 years old. And have lived a colorful life yall.. but I have Never said these words. "I finally Landed a blow to his face" when talking about Any of my ex husbands.. Is amber Heard a cage fighter on the side? I can't wait to watch Camille Mop that "Parakeet floor" up with her this week!!! I know She had to have read that one and memorized it.. nobody calls a parquet floor a Parakeet floor.. 😆 I almost got embarrassed for her.. But I wholeheartedly love and support Johnny Depp!!! I absolutely love Yall The Behavior Panel. Yall are spot on!!!! 👌
As a woman, yes, I felt extremly uncomfortable during her testimony. Those past years I've been very skeptical about her allegations because I've been following JD's career for more than 20 years and I seriously couldn't match DV with what anyone would say about him. I lived in Paris for 15 years and some of my schoolmates lived right next to him and his wife and the stories were Always about a perfect gentleman. But I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt, because sometimes we really don't get what's going on behind closed doors. The tapes and the testimony had been enough to convince me she's not sincere, her testimony was so embarassing, I really don't get how She thinks she's outsmarting everyone but I've seen teenage perpetrators doing a Better job at lying.
Yes...embarrassing! And calls into question the statements of real victims of abuse...actually doing great harm to the movement she's supposedly supporting.
@michelle32855, I totally agree. That's what keeps me from feeling sorry for her, the fact that now real abuse victims will be met with skepticism even when they have legitimate problems, and I happen to know a few. But I would ALMOST feel sorry for her because her obsessive need to be loved is quite pathetic really. Anyone who would stoop to this level is mentally sick.
One thing that really caught my attention was when she talked about JD slamming her against a wall and calling her an "embarrassment". This was on their island, and I was watching it live with my wife. I immediately turned to her and said, "she is more upset at being called an embarrassment than she was getting thrown against a wall!" That's when I decided she was a narcissist.
I agree. And that reflects that she skipped over Maslow's hierarchy with one being physiological needs. 2. Safety. 3. Belonging love 4. Is self esteem. So like you said her being embarrassed well that goes with her self esteem. So she doesn't make fear or safety a priority. Which being in trauma your fight, flight or freeze activated, I wouldn't be concerned about my feelings but more so am I going to have to fight or get the heck outta here? So that is a great observation!!👌💯👍
@@valn.6584 To be honest, most of her testimony was more about how she felt as far as her image vs the actual physical issues. She also seems to think that because she believed she couldn't hurt JD, then there is no way she could commit DV against him. Us men are caught in a Catch 22. If we fight back to defend ourselves, we are wife beaters. If we call the cops and file a report, we are ridiculed for letting a woman beat us up. I just hope the jury sees the same thing we see. Her overacting of trying to get emotional was almost laughable. I couldn't tell if she was having seizure, having an allergic reaction, or if she was trying to show an emotion. Plus the speed with which switches between emotions was absolutely incredible. You can't switch that fast between real emotions.
@@kevinashley478 I agree 💯! I hope this gets more Men to come forward who are the victims of violence! A woman has no right to hit a man just as no man has the right to hit a woman. But I think Amber Heard is a spoiled brat. She is a narcissist and definitely more concerned with her image. But I just think she is a cold, callous, shallow and calculated woman. She will repeat this behavior again. Narcissist's don't change!
In my opinion, her lawyers most likely guided her. However, AH was probably a really difficult client and dismissed advice. She thought her acting was superior.
I am a woman and a psychotherapist (with 35 years of experience) and I do not find Amber Heard credible at all. I’ve treated survivors of abuse as well as individuals with personality disorders. Watching her and listening to her made me very uncomfortable and nauseated. When her testimony is contrasted with the available audiotapes, it is all the more unbelievable.
I'm an older lady, normally a sucker in that I believe alot of people that are later proven to have lied. I've never seen anyone less believable, especially given that she's an actress. I feel manipulated just listening to her.
I'm an abuse survivor and my instinct was to feel VERY uncomfortable watching Amber Heard... it goes against everything I've felt before... the pain of listening to a survivor reliving their horror as they talk... yet, with Amber, I felt nothing. I cried during Johnny's testimony. That's the difference. Something feels very off with Amber and I think it's everything to do with what the guys have said.
Like many folks I've watched every minute of this trial thus far, and from the minute AH opened her mouth i thought - Good God !!! The Behaviour Panel guys have got enough material here to last a year dissecting this persons body language - good luck finding her baseline guys - she's all over the place !!
Her baseline isn't in court. At all... maybe forgetful moments when she forgets she's watched. She's putting on an act this whole time (I'd say impressive but.. well you've seen it...) she's dedicated to her fabrication at least.
@@allegrac230 if what Depp’s psychologist says about her is true, honestly without treatment she doesn’t have one. Untreated Borderlines don’t have a true sense of self and their moods are liable as are their opinions of people.
Lying, lying. As a woman who experienced dv my whole body is telling me she's lying like crazy. I caught this one regarding his slap...it wasn't he slapped me, it was slapped me. Distancing? Terrible, despicable performance. She's definitely not right in the head. How can anyone allege such things. No conscience.
As a woman, I see she’s quite dishonest. I find her testimony so insincere. It IS difficult to watch her tell her “stories”! As a survivor of abuse myself, I can almost feel and oddly seem to know other domestic abuse survivors. Amber in no way comes across as an abused victim.
As someone who has heard court testimony from abuse victims, Amber Heard doesn't sound much like them. As someone who has heard testimony from abusers trying to explain to a judge why their partners deserved it, she sounds uncannily identical to that.
I am a survivor of domestic violence and have been choked around my neck. I couldn’t swallow without pain for three months. She never one time mentions it being difficult to swallow or that her throat hurt the next day or any symptoms of the pain that she said she endured by his hand, except headaches. She is giving me a headache. Thank you for posting this video you guys are doing a great job!
It is heartbreaking to read so many comments from people who have experienced dv and assalt. Its more common than people realise. I am sorry you had to go through that.
Just to give you all chills, this woman has just recently become a mother and is solo raising a young daughter!... Can you imagine the future that child has ahead of her?? :/
That’s hilarious and apt 🤣: “Every flaw, every bad behaviour, every possible hint of at ever having made a mistake in her lifetime, is absent. She’s giving us a story of a flawless Disney Princess, who lived with Satan.”
Yes as a woman I have a disturbing gut feeling that something is very very wrong when she speaks. Im feeling red flags go up on an intuitive level, through her entire story. I grew up with a parent with borderline personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder, and this is exactly what both of those look like when combined together.
As a woman, it is very uncomfortable to listen to her. I feel embarrassment for what appears to me to be bad acting. I get the sense she is trying to manipulate and deceive the "audience" which is upsetting. And I feel very sad for everything Johnny has gone through since getting involved with her and continues to go through with every word she says. My husband's ex is very much like Amber so that also brings up a lot of negative experiences we've had with her so it isn't hard to imagine what Johnny's life was like with her.
Yes, I felt embarrassment watching it for her and maybe because she's a woman, In the end her dramatics are so over the top and hard to watch I had to stop watching, it became painful and a waste of time, why sit and listen to someone whose most every word out of her mouth is a lie? wasting everyone's time.
I watched the trial live and she was totally unbelievable. I was actually repulsed by her behavior. Seeing it again makes me even more uncomfortable. She is in desperate need of serious help.
I’ll tell you why people have had such an overwhelming negative response to her….these lovely gentlemen are having to tread sooo carefully with their words because she’s claiming to be an abused woman. And we all know men couldn’t/can’t call out or question a female dv victim. She knows this & weaponized it. She is a disgrace & this should follow her for the rest of her life. Consequences.
Biggest issue for me as a survivor. She says she took a bunch of sleeping tablets (to knock herself out) and went to sleep in the marital bed. She made herself completely physically available to his every whim by making herself available and unconscious. Why is she not leaving the house, barracading herself in a room, staying awake all night to make sure he doesn't touch her again. You have to have an enormous level of trust in someone to be able to take sleeping tablets and share a bed with someone. It took me many years and counselling before I was able. AH does it minutes after an alleged rape with her rapist. It doesn't add up.
I've spent nights in fear, trying to stay awake so I wouldn't be touched. Sleep leaves you vulnerable, drugged sleep leaves you seriously vulnerable because you can't wake up properly and sleeping tablets impair memory. He could literally have had done anything he liked to her and she couldn't have stopped him. As I said you gotta seriously trust someone to sleep with them on sleeping tablets.
Sort of jokingly The biggest issue for me is that damn pink water bottle. At the end of her second day of testimony, just about every single time, she turns directly to the jury and drinks followed by lip licks. The third day, after she realizes her new PR Firm won't work either, she sets her full bright pink bottle on the right turning directly at the jury every time she drinks followed by lip licks. It's truly unnerving. I suspect she's attempting to seduce a juror or two.
Female here… something’s definitely “not right”. This really angers us that have truly been abused. Women, and men who have been abused, should be able to speak about it, but please don’t exaggerate… be totally honest about what’s happened. When you aren’t totally honest about the abuse, especially since she’s in the public eye and it’s being televised worldwide, you do a huge disservice to those of us who have been abused because lies tend to catch up with you and come to light.
Having read comments by victims of d.a., this has hurt so many people. The moment of truth: "He wished he'd never met me." - That's why all of this is happening. He is still forced to deal with her, be in the same room with her, listen to her. She is still trying to control him. She still tries to take over his life. She won't let go. Which also fits certain personality types.
So true. As a survivor of assault who copes with the aftereffects, it is sad that someone would use the suffering of others as her training manual to enable causing her victim prolonged discomfort. So twisted. My cat who likes to bat wounded lizards around doesn't take the torture to such heights...
Someone doesn't just become an abusive monster in their 50's. Not a hint of abuse JDs entire life in the spotlight but suddenly he becomes horrifically abusive with AH? Gimme a break.
One major contradiction I haven’t heard many people talking about happened during her story of the tattoo slaps. She starts by saying it was “so insignificant” and then in the same breath says she “will never forget it” because it “changed my life”. You can’t have an event be insignificant AND life changing. Also, as an extremely empathetic person, I find myself crying every single time I see someone cry. But watching Amber’s behavior has just left me feeling uncomfortably incredulous. Never once have my instincts responded to her bizarre antics. It’s simply and purely..... off; just wrong. And I went into this completely expecting that she was telling the truth. Well, my expectations have completely reversed as more and more of her bizarre behavior just alienates me further. Thanks for these in depth breakdowns. It’s very helpful and interesting.
I have said the same thing, usually I get very emotional watching people get emotional and telling their story but I was extremely uncomfortable watching her, to the point I had to look away multiple times. I felt embarrassed for her and just wanted her to stop talking.
I felt the exact same thing. Something was very off and wrong. I have a lot of empathy hearing these kind of things. I had no emotional reaction to what she was saying except maybe second hand embarrassment. I didn’t believe anything she said in regards to the violence. I could believe some of the jealousy and the drinking/drugs he admits that himself. On the whole it’s clear she was lying.
I am usually highly sensitive to people’s feelings and emotions - however I’m receiving nothing when AH is talking and crying. I am actually cringing and finding it very hard to watch and listen to her.
Like wise - in fact I have a very strong averse, negative reaction when I listen to her for too long. There's something, some false note in her emotionless wailing - it makes my skin crawl.
I am a woman and regard myself as being very perceptive and intuitive. Her testimony is not convincing, I am a DV survivor and a lot of what she says resonates with me but her delivery is off.......she has done a lot of research!!!!
And, yes I listened as a woman. As a woman who has experienced trauma and lives with true PTSD, I found it impossible to believe 85% of what she testified to...and that's scary to think of. She's a professional malingering con artist who is finally being exposed.
Greg's comment about the hypervigilance was dead on, she mentions none of the primary symptoms of PTSD due to victimization, no anxiety, stress, perpetual concern for safety, or the spikes of fear that arise in situations that reflect the trauma. You're always on the lookout.
@@jenniferlynnbecker2234 You are so right! It’s impossible to sleep comfortably, especially with fear (ptsd does not sleep) and not Always be vigilant of one’s own fear of what could happen once one “happens” to hopefully Not fall asleep. One doesn’t go pop sleeping pills when too scared and having to build a barricade against the- one of many access points to you! This testimony has me saying she’s sold her soul to the Devil and he’s arrived for early payment! So sad!
@@jenniferlynnbecker2234 oh heck yes. 😳 walking through parking lots, head up, get into my vehicle. Hit that lock button immediately. No checking phone..just go. Restaurant's? Sit with my back to the wall. I even am moving my office into my living room, because even though I have an alarm system, I hate being in a closed room., where I can't see/hear the front door being messed with. Don't get me wrong, I don't live a miserable life. I've adjusted to my hypervigilance. Funny, ,( not really) but my adult kids saw me at Walmart when I had just gotten into my truck. My daughter is always playful, and didn't think, was just being ornery, and yes she's aware of what has happened to me. She spotted me, and ran over ( we live in a small-ish town) and ran up and started slapping my window while yelling. Scared the living crap out of me, bad. I screamed so loud, and my arms were flailing, that I scared HER half to death. She said ( once I gave her the Mothers "death stare") " Omg, MOM, I'm SO SORRY! Ithought you were going to have a heart attack!" . I opened the window and her S.O. yelled at her, " Geez! You trying to kill your Mom or yourself"?! (He knows I've had Firearm training) " You're lucky she didn't shoot your ass!". Which I DO carry, but I'd NEVER pull a weapon while in a panic. I've Trained until muscle memory is there. Being that startled is NOT the time to pull a weapon. Mace? Yes. Weapon , NO. She DID learn just how much the years of abuse affected me, though. I truly felt bad that she was so upset, by nothing more than playing around. My belaboured point? It never leaves you. The constant awareness . Things Ike intense Yoga, and Tai Chi routines each day help a LOT.
I am a woman and my feeling is everything is off with her testimony....her choice of words, her expressions, her pauses, her emotions, her tone. I regard myself as very empathic so should be really emotional watching a domestic violence testimony, but i feel nothing. That tells me something is really wrong ! It is like listening to a radio station that isn't tuned in and nothing makes sense.
Oh, 100%! I cried during his friend Isaac's testimony, I cried when he said she burned a cigarette out on his face, shoot...I even cried once trying to compliment the guy working at Discount Tire for hooking me up in high school. All I could feel for her testimony was a cold disgust.
This is how an abuser looks like when you hold them accountable. abusers rely on having a free pass in doing and violating whatever boundary they feel should not be there.
She has trauma, that’s certain, but it has not come from Johnny. I believe she’s burying something from her past. I’m sickened, being a survivor (of a life altering abuse cycle) that she can lie like this. She is, in no way, afraid of him. She’s not well…not well at all. However, it does not excuse her from this.
@@talkytalker5662 Definitely not. She has a history of being abusive, and of stealing other's abuse stories to sound more credible. Either she has never been abused, or she has very, very early childhood trauma (usually so early the person doesn't quite remember). Trauma can cause BPD/HPD, but it's not required to occur.
What Scott said and he says often about women having a second sense is so right especially women that have experienced actual abuse-Like a frightened dog who shivers quakes holds their tail close to their body in the presence of a wicked owner, people who have been abused recognize in her the abuser - Is instinctual and visceral
As a woman, her testimony makes my blood boil. If the jury can’t see thru this BS, god help us. “I’ve seen the Health Class videos.” I almost died when she said that right after she described being beaten.
Im very empathetic and i have literally no empathy towards her story when watching. I just dont believe anything she says. Its hard to listen to someone telling such horrific abuse & just not believe them . Watch with the sound off. She's completely lying
If even she wasn’t lying… (which she is)… she’s really trying to sound like a bullshitting bafoon!! Like GIRL … you’re an actress… you can’t do better than that?!! 🤣 Does she not hear herself?? But that’s what happens with these types of people… they can lie and string you along… but once they are FORCED to answer questions at length THEY ALWAYS end up showing how stupid their stories and lies are. ITS MUCH HARDER..For them to manipulate and use tactics when they have to answer for things. And she’s so used to weaseling her way out of that scenario in life…. That now she’s proving how incompetent she is at getting her way. Delusions of grandeur… she believes in her ability to fool everyone.. like we’re all stupid idiots 🙄 Not so smug now are ya Amber?!
I grew up in DV home and experienced it several times in relationships as an adult and all I thought was ‘will she ever stop talking’. She didn’t trigger any emotions in me at all and I usually empathize with victims .🤷🏼♀️
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Amber has no humiliation she is so embarrassing I am so amazed that she doesn’t realize that we see through that placating that I’ve heard Johnny himself advised his team to use upon her to figure out what they were going to do with this woman. 😭😩😬
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She’s really really really bad on the stand! I’m actually embarrassed for her. She has no idea how bad she looks! God awful! Her attorney must just be CRINGING!
How many strongly empathetic people find it almost unbearable to listen to her testimony? I am extremely uncomfortable hearing her speak.
It makes me mad and laugh at the same time, absolutely no connection to trauma
I'm an empath I cry at commercials lol and I was so uncomfortable watching her as well as embarrassed . I feel heartbroken for JD
Me!
@@greeneyes9310 especially spca commercials
All these liars, I find them annoying. I think that’s a good thing. Stephanie Lazarus was the worst
I’ve been a lawyer for 27 years, and this is hands down the most bizarre behavior I have ever seen on the witness stand. It is brutally uncomfortable to watch.
I wonder if she's under the influence of something or if this is her personality disorders presenting themselves?
@@EvelynJoy I think it's both because she's out of control and knows her life, as she knew it, is over.
I agree. Imagine how true victims feel. It’s very disturbing.
@@waitwhat564 it doesn't feel good especially since I never spoke up because I was scared and women like her are lying about it. I'll never speak up.
@@NicolaMaxwell r u out of that situation now?
SHE is the reason why ACTUAL abuse victims aren't believed.
@@MissReneeMichelle FACTS!!
As a woman (answering Scott's query and not a body language expert) I watch this and cannot imagine anyone believing her stories. I'm astonished that her attorneys would believe her (I know they don't have to believe her.) and that she thinks she is believable. I'm simply shocked. I can't begin to explain the anger and frustration I feel for actual victims, because Amber is a terrific example of the reason that we cannot simply believe someone who has a victim story. False accusations also horribly victimize the accused person. It is sick. Real victims should be believed. Fake victims should be held accountable legally.
As someone with a DV history I agree. Knuckleheads like her make it harder to help in legit situations to protect victims. She should be held accountable. I feel so sorry for her baby girl, if she survives.
Lawyers are there to make money, not necessarily believe you…like criminal defense lawyers. Everyone deserve legal representation regardless.
But I’m with you, I don’t believe her either. ❣️
It would be wonderful if she could be held accountable for her lies and what she has done to Johnny.
@@cherylann594 I think more than winning this case JD just wants his name cleared so he doesn’t end up like Kevin spacey who was kicked off films and no longer works in Hollywood. So, even if he loses the trial Hollywood will reinstate him and cancel her. To me, that’s best case scenario because public attention, acceptance and stardom mean more to her than money. Just my opinion though. I think it’s clear he will win the trial though.
I really don't see attorneys allowing all these loopholes (esp those that defies even common logic) and not tightening it up. I think it's more of a case of AH insisting on her own storytelling so not much left to do except to do some alignment to some PTSD/DV terms of common usage.
Yup as a women…I don’t believe a word she says! My intuition is going off like a fire alarm!
Mine too
I'm a very empathetic person, if someone cries I cry, but with her, nothing!
Salute!
Yup me too.
laughed my a§§ off from the poop tho too
left school@16yo, such ambition... oh you're a model too Amber? traded what for classes, oh I think I understand squagirl... such the loser, hard to believe that was last yr seems like longer
Same, she wipes get face and nose, but no mucus or liquid is built up in her nose, when you cry, both eyes and nose water up, hence ppl snizzle to keep your nose from dripping.
Amber Heard never showed one single second of looking afraid of Johnny. I've been abused by a partner. You don't talk about it with only anger. You show anxiety, a lack of eye contact while recounting it and in my case a sense of shame. Even though it wasn't my fault. She never once struck me as someone who has been abused in any way. Instead, there's overwhelming anger and bitterness coming off of her.
Johnny is true to his word; he told her she will never see his eyes again and seems he hasn’t looked at her once in that courtroom. That’s powerful.
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As a trauma psychologist with over 25 years in practice, when someone is in a life or death traumatic situation, the brain and body automatically go into fight or flight mode and the social engagement system temporarily goes off line. If A’s life was truly in danger, she wouldn’t be looking in Johnny’s eyes trying to connect to him…”where’s Johnny???” She would be fighting him or if unable, she would freeze and feign death. My opinion is we are watching a severe personality disorder with an insecure preoccupied attachment style and bad acting.
Excellent analysis! Love you guys!
I think you nail it here.
I agree! And I do feel sorry for her for digging her hole deeper and deeper, knowing she can't help it. Wish she would get help but for that she'd first have to acknowledge that she's got a problem, and it's not JD. And I don't think she's at this point yet, if she'll ever get there. I don't wish her to die a bitter and lonely person...
In her testimony she did freeze but it's not shown in this video. I don't really like the generalisation you have applied here. People do try to connect with their abusers in the moment. It is a survival technique, especially in cases of repeated abuse like dv where the victim has some understanding of what is most likely to de-escalate the abuser. I'm not saying this is what happened here, but please be careful applying these generalisations, as victims are already afraid of not being believed.
@@danipaul7033 I hear what you are saying and I agree there is a “fawn” response to abusers. I’m speaking purely from a neurological perspective. In a moment of terror the brain responds by shutting down anything that hinders survival. If a victim is going to be immediately harmed (as AH claimed), the instinctive response isn’t to connect. She may have before or after (and sometimes we are talking seconds), but the brain seeks protection at that critical moment.
@@shannaeanderson2574 Thanks for clarifying that. I think I understand what you are saying now.
As a woman and one that was abused and also as a child….there is absolutely nothing in her voice/testimony etc that rings true when it comes to the violence.
I cannot wrap my head around this, how someone can sit there and lie for hours. Terrifying
I feel the same way, dear. I was abused as a child. I'm 50 now. I still cant talk about it without crying, or hear another talk about their abuse. With her, I feel disgust. I'm really sorry for what you went thru...
@@rosemaryh.4105 same to you!! I just hope a real DV victim is on the jury, she will NOT win that person over even if all the others believe her
@David Williamson always go with your first instinct 😊 it’s almost always right
I am sorry for what you have gone through. Sending MamaKat hugs
@@Ania-cd2sh I agree. Johnnys attorney will have this entire week to prepare for her cross examination. He has every piece of the footage of her testimony and her deposition. Get ready for an extreme case of crazy next week when they start to dismantle her testimony. She will probably loose her cookies on the stand. I hate to say it but this is a worse case scenario for a Narcissist heavy/BPD personality. Her exposure will be absolute and her supply of attention will be crippling. If she doesn’t get help… on a lighter note, she hasn’t yet been potty trained so she is still a puppy- Amber Turd🐝
What I didn't hear anyone say, is when she's crying and repeating her last sentence, she's resisting the urge to yell "line" because she's forgotten the script.
As a real survivor of domestic violence, I’m disgusted by amber heard and I sure hope this jury can see thru this manipulative lying woman.
Normally if I see someone breakdown while telling a story I cry right along with them it's like I'm reliving it too. When I see her testimony I feel *nothing*, that tells me more than anything.
@Tanika That isn't a universal truth. I feel empathy towards quite a few people I don't like if they're telling a true story of a harrowing event in their lives. Aside from that, if someone is telling a falsehood, harrowing or not, why should I feel empathy?
I am a chronic sympathetic crier in most cases. But I didn't cry for Amber, either. Nor did I feel "nothing." No. I was disgusted with her. My reading of her is that she is disingenuous in the extreme. She thought that the bigger the lie, the more awful the alleged experience, the more people would pity her. Well, that only works if you're believable. From what I've observed, to most people who see her testimony, Amber isn't believable in the slightest. So no, I won't cry for lies which are crafted in order to destroy someone else.
@bandgeekforlife EXACTLY! I'm the same way, esp when it comes to DV & SA, as I'm a survivor & feel other's pain as well, as an empath to the extreme. Sometimes it's ridiculous bc it extends to the abused, dumped pets in our country. But I openmindedly listened to everything & AH's testimony (along with audios showing her abusive side) brings no feelings genuine feelings! Or I would cry too! It felt & appeared like horrible acting. And this subject is quite sensitive to me, as my daughter was also a victim of SA (also referring to in addition to me, not AH). Mt daughter had a plethera of real evidence, including confessions thru text that the police verified. Grand Jury endicted the 2 guy & then they hired some high priced lawyer from a much bigger city & our DA dropped the charges (DA changed mid-case, the previous DA wouldn't have dropped them, he wanted to nail them. But new DA wanted an easier fight as a new DA, so she dropped charges & my daughter was put thru extra hell for nothing!). I have true empathy & deep emotions fir real victims. So ignore this person who likes to jump in & attack those with a differing opinion, incl elderly survivors of Abuse. Not worth the effort. The jury spoke & the vast majority of the public has spoken!
I FELT extremely uncomfortable trying to watch Amber ‘perform’. She wasn’t testifying. She was performing (not very well). I FELT the lies, I FELT the deception, I FELT it when she would suddenly switch roles between HER truth and stealing Johnny’s (1 example being that I believe it was JD who barricaded himself in the bathroom, not her).
I FELT it when she would insert exaggerations, twist the truth, add random spur of the moment fabrications, make mistakes in her script and try to correct it on the spot.
I FELT those completely WRONG and AWKWARD emotions which FELT so wrong because she doesn’t understand the feelings she’s trying to display. She was displaying emotions she THOUGHT she understood but when you’ve never actually been a victim and your level of empathy is almost zero, it’s not surprising she got it wrong.
I BELIEVED her feelings were real when she talked about JD saying that nobody likes her, nobody wants her around. Anyone that narcissistic would be very angry if someone said negative things about them. Her anger and contempt were the ONLY feelings I believed.
I couldn’t watch her ‘testimony’ for more than a few minutes at a time. I’m intuitively empathic (a super BUMMER not a super POWER) and her performance disgusted me. After a few minutes of being really uncomfortable then really angry, I would have to stop the video just so I could regulate all the negative emotions I felt after watching (A COUPLE MINUTES OF IT!).
AH is deeply disturbed, completely devoid of empathy, and desperately needs psychiatric intervention. Her performance was shameful and absurd. I couldn’t believe people bought her story 6 years ago and NOW, I just hope everyone can see the lies and her terrible acting.
It saddens me she is now a mother. We all know what she will do to this child and that breaks my heart. I guess now we know what she was writing down all those days after she got ridiculed for her death stare towards the stand with no emotion in the very beginning. I believe she was taking notes. Then studied them, and like you said, tried to use it in her own testimony.
@@okincbeach9862 It’s extremely sad. Her behavior patterns all feel self serving. Sometimes they feel maliciously self serving, like the stories she’s fabricating and exaggerating about JD and other times her actions feel self serving in a “gaining sympathy” way like paying for a surrogate to give birth to your child (nothing wrong with this) but so the public can see you as a mother and think this ‘big bad drug addicted canceled movie star’ is suing her for outrageous reasons.
“Feel sorry for me and vilify him because look I have a new baby”. It really is evil. My heart aches for that baby girl.
BOOM!!!!
I could have written every word of your comment, 100% how I feel, down to not being able to watch her except in small doses. And as a trained actress myself she annoys the crap out of me, how did she ever get any roles with her combo of non-empathy and melodramatics??? ... 🙄
As someone that has experienced domestic battery, her story was b.s. from the get go. A man slaps you, and tears come to your eyes and you either get angry or start cowering. You don’t laugh and sit through more slapping. Nothing makes me angrier than someone playing a victim and taking away from women that have been beaten and men falsely accused.
Yes! I'm slapped and I laugh. I continue to laugh through a second slap and I don't dodge, block or do anything other than just wait for the next hit. After being slapped hard enough to be knocked off the freaking couch!
Nope. Can't follow that line of thinking.
I'm a female and don't believe a word she's saying. It worries me that a mostly male jury could buy her tears and drama and declare her not guilty.
Men might find her even less credible. A lot of men have gotten bruised. They know how much damage a punch can do. Meanwhile not a touch of anything on her skin. Also, I’m sure they had their share of encountering people like that in their lives. We all have.
I’m female and a trauma survivor. When I see others talk about traumatic experience, I get an instant rush of empathy - mirror neurons - common survivors’ response - we recognise our own. Amber Heard did not produce that response in me. Having seen and felt empathy for Depp on the stand, I tried so hard to take Mark’s advice to not rush to judgment, but my whole body rejected her - I felt nauseated watching her and at one point realised I’d pushed myself backwards into the couch and drawn my legs up tight to get as far away from her as possible. Interestingly the words that came into my mind unbidden were ‘dangerous’ and ‘threat’.
Felt very angry that she claimed being slapped in the face by her partner was ‘the worst thing that could EVER happen to anyone’ Sorry??!! I’m not excusing a slap to the face - if it happened - but jiminy crimble, if that’s the worst thing she can imagine, she’s a lucky, lucky girl. An insult to anyone who’s actually been exposed to abuse, and my god, histrionic
As a survivor, I also have a very adverse reaction to her during her testimony. It’s offensive to actual survivors.
Same. I'm hoping an actual survivor got into the jury, although I doubt it. Some of the recordings I've heard between the 2 what she laughs at him, talks over him, calls him a joke, etc is so familiar to me. It was not the voice of a victim that I was hearing, it was that of the perpetrator. As an actual victim, you'd never try to goad your abuser that way. Never! I was always trying to calm things down, "you're right, I was wrong, I didn't mean to say that, I want doing that on purpose." I'm with you 100%. Can't listen to her.
It's funny, I said the exact phrase "we know our own" discussing this somewhere else. And somebody who of course is probably 19 and knows nothing about abuse said "You're not her, everyone reacts differently to things" Yes and No. What triggers someone in to feeling thos things may be different, but the way somebody who has been abused acts can be seen a mile away. Couldn't agree more with this. Sadly, what this case is actually about, defamation, is nearly impossible for Johnny to win legally because the burden to prove he didn't abuse her is on him and that's pretty much impossible to prove. However I think in the court of Public opinion, which this is really about, he's winning by a landslide.
Thank you for sharing your story.
AH saying the slap was the worst thing that happened is ridiculous! She has apparently had a pattern of abuse - claimed she has been sexually abused in school.
She is abhorrent.
This
I was in an abusive marriage. It doesn’t matter how hard you try to hide any bruises, scratches, chipped teeth, black eyes, SOMEONE always notices and says something. To describe being hit over and over again and being a very public person who’s appearance is always scrutinized I find it difficult to believe no one noticed anything.
I thought the same thing. But also remember the testimony from the cops & every one else who never saw a mark on her. I remember at one point my doctor asked me point blank honey are you in an abusive relationship- cos bruise on my temple & under eye. Still have a dent in my nose. I found a letter I had written to my ex that I don’t even recognize myself, I literally wrote “Baby I’m sorry I made you hit me” I was so terrified of him, I was constantly apologizing, as if it was my fault, hell I believed it was my fault, always trying to cajole him & make everything ok, cater for him. I even had a stutter. You know you’re terrified to step out of line. The way she spoke to him on those tapes? The way she moved & spoke on the stand- all aggressive & dominant. No way in hell I would have ever spoken to my ex like that. Not unless I wanted to get beat down. I haven’t been that girl in 20 years. All I felt watching her was rage. I wanted to slap her & scream how dare you. Which makes no sense- committing violence I know. But I want to shake her & scream this isn’t ok. You don’t know what it feels like, it isn’t ok for you to diminish us by making false accusations.
I don’t think she would have followed anything her lawyers said unless she agreed with them. She seems to think she’s the smartest/best person in any room so why would she listen to her lawyers?
Attention seekers she is
As a survivor of DV for years. I was " slapped" across the face which left marks that no amount makeup could cover. Also was slapped on the temple , had a knot rise the size of golf ball for days. In NO WAY would I ever antagonize my abuser such as she did via audio evidence. I am offended as a TRUE DV SURVIVOR by her actions.
Well done you, yes, she is acting through this whole thing and lying.
I agree. If a woman is abused , even one time , you will not antagonize the abuser because you know you are placing yourself in danger and at his mercy. You also know he will have no mercy because he feels entitled to do as he pleases with you. Early on in my own abusive relationship I made the mistake of actually getting angry and trying to stand up for myself. The result was an open handed slap that busted my left eardrum. A permanent reminder of what abusers are capable of if you talk back.
I felt the same way. I am very offended that she lied about being abused!
And because she can describe abuse so well, but seems to be lying about being abused, tells me she is an abuser.
@@facialsonDemand THIS!
I love how detailed she gets when she's remembering getting hit or in an argument. But when Johnny's attorneys ask something, she can't recall sh!i!!
Amber and her sister have said their father abused them. Those comments she has said Johnny said, which DOES NOT match Johnny's style of speaking or his personality or anything remotely like him, but the comments "you wanna go little girl!" "you think you're a man!" sound like what an abusive, alcohol Texan man might say to his daughters when they seem to defy him. When a liar tells stories it always helps them to remember when they use some facts. I feel like Amber has peppered in some of the abuse her father gave her as a young girl.
Not one single time did I ever feel any kind of sympathy for her. It all felt so wrong and so dishonest.
I'm watching the Rum Diaries. When JD's character meets AH he says, "Why did she have to happen?" Fiction predicted his reality.
Chase, I’m with you. She is projecting what she did to him. She is a terrible actress. There are huge numbers of people speaking out on this case who are survivors and nothing about her feels right. Survivors recognize each other and recognize abusers. She is 100% no doubt in my mind, the abuser. And she is a terrible liar. I’ll support your reputation on this one absolutely!
Also, her doing all this sobbing without a tear. Horrible actress. When survivors discuss their trauma the vast majority can’t look at other people. They are too ashamed and scared. They have to look down. Nothing about this looks sounds or feels real.
Chase you were 💯 % on point! 👍👌
Me too
I'm with Chase and you on this. JD's word against hers is one thing. Listening to the audios in her own words
Her acting is beyond embarrassing. How everyone there isn't rolling their eyes is a miracle.
They just don’t want to be thrown out of the court 🤣🤣🤣
They are just good actors and showing her how it’s done.
I've rolled my eyes so many times they've stayed that way!
How she ever got a role in a movie is beyond me.
@@NicolaMaxwell lol!!!
I have PTSD and I can tell you that the way she is recalling things is fake fake fake and also very insulting to us who have it. There are details that you will remember and some that will be confusing….but the details of those ones you recall are emotionally challenging to articulate, but you will be able to tell in detail. She’s grasping because the story isn’t real.
Same! 💯
This woman gives me the feeling she swindled her parents. Since she was young, she learned to get away from everything by lying and manipulating. That is how she thought she could keep charming her way out of court. But she learned that the world was not as easy to fool...
she annoys me
As a woman reading another woman, my intuition says she's being incredibly deceptive. The over exaggerated facial expressions, the amount of detail in stories and contradictory statements. A lot of rehearsal has gone into her testimony and the depositions of those who are supporting her. One girl couldn't remember "Mega" bottle of wine and kept consistently stating a "magnum" bottle of wine. What's worse there are real survivors of dv who are incredibly pissed that someone would lie about something so serious.
Absolutely CORRECT!
A magnum is a standard wine bottle measurement. It is the equivalent of 1.5 liters.
@@erykaton170 Thank you for sharing that. I had to look it up and I guess anything is possible but that's an awfully huge bottle to be lugging around which makes the story even crazier. It seemed like the witness used that term as often as she could through her testimony as if she were coached. It sounded unnatural to the number of times it was used.
@@constanceenglish4520 I couldn't agree with you more. Every witness Amber's team put up was coached. While I believe Johnny drinks and takes drugs, they exaggerated intentionally to try to make people believe he could become violent when he was intoxicated. From their description every surface must have been stained with wine, covered in drugs and shards of glass. It's ridiculous.
Agreed. I feel like a deeper dive would find even more. Amber and her sister have said their father abused them. Those comments she has said Johnny said, which DOES NOT match Johnny's style of speaking or his personality or anything remotely like him, but the comments "you wanna go little girl!" "you think you're a man!" sound like what an abusive, alcohol Texan man might say to his daughters when they seem to defy him. When a liar tells stories it always helps them to remember when they use some facts. I feel like Amber has peppered in some of the abuse her father gave her as a young girl.
I’m a woman and Scott is correct there was something off I sensed it right away and couldn’t put my finger on it but I didn’t believe her. The longer she spoke the more aggravated I became, I only sporadically watched in day 2 of her testimony because of that. After watching your video I realized she has no real emotion in her voice, that’s what was fake. Plus all the embellishments and what you brought up about past and present tense. Great job guys❤️🌺
listening to someone relaying a traumatic event can be awful, sad, disturbing and yet still compelling but with Amber you just want to turn off, I think its her lack of authenticity its a gut feeling. The analysis of the behaviour panel are so interesting and spot on and puts some science to my feelings excellent work.
the inauthentic odd exaggerated facial expressions tell it all. we don't believe her
It's nice to have our instinctual gut reaction backed by science!
I hate that PTSD is thrown around so loosely nowadays. It waters down the severity of real cases
OMG I laughed so hard when one of you said she's describing herself as a Disney princess living with satan 🤣
Cmon a scene from Die Hard was #1
👏🏽Chase your the best
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Never have I seen someone humiliate themselves on the alter of pathological deception like this. It’s excruciating to watch.
Amen
I agree. I was listening to a group talk about when you watch a victim tell their story about an event that you should feel sympathy your natural reaction tells wether they’re truthful or not. If you feel revulsion they’re lying. If you want to help them and feel sympathy the story is true . We’re naturally wired to feel these things.
@@raybord1 if the jury felt the same, which is probable (they're right there, in the room, it'll be more tangible for them), she's in trouble.
Unfortunately, you're not looking at people the way we really are. Everywhere you go, every interaction you have in society, has the potential to be just as deceptive as what she's doing on that stage. Sorry podium.
Ever try to negotiate a car sale?
How long have you owned it?
Oh, I've had it for a while.
Is there anything wrong with it?
Nothing that I've really noticed? It runs great.
How does it shift?
Perfect.
Well more specifically, how does it shift going from 45 miles an hour to 60 miles an hour it's going uphill because that's what I'm gonna do when I come to test drive it.
Well, actually it does seem to hesitate a little.
Thanks, I'm not interested.
(Hang up)
We lie, because we're human beings and we all lie. But she's personality disorder and she's in this for revenge against him because he didn't want her anymore and that's a sign of borderline personality disorder mixed with narcissism and it's very toxic.
As a rape victim with PTSD, I have never been as upset over how people talk about rape as I was seeing her blatantly lie about it on the stand. I generally avoid ever accusing anybody about lying about stuff like this, as an advocate for people with mental health issues this is a topic where I try to stay fairly diplomatic, but I lost my sh*t when I saw it. This video really validated what my instinct told me, so thank you for that, guys ❤️ I was watching Emily D. Baker's Livestream, and as a former DA she was at a loss for words. I don't care what diagnose AH has, diagnoses don't make you a liar/abuser/criminal. The majority of people with mental health issues don't abuse people, and that includes people with BPD and HPD, but there are people with mental illness, just like with every other group, who are a*holes. Having ADHD and bipolar (like JD) I appreciate you guys didn't focus that much on it, bc even if I can see the behaviors too, the relevance is minimal if not irrelevant. What makes you a shitty person is only determined by who, not what, you are and after this, I'd say she qualifies.
I'm so sorry you went through that. Thank you for sharing your perspective as a survivor. I was watching this on EDB live too and couldn't believe what I was seeing. One thing that has been quite encouraging to me is watching how many people are coming forward with honest conversations about mental health from this trial. Mental illness may help explain peoples actions but never excuse the actions
Been there and we understand . As a a Survivor and those of us that work with them can see something was soooo off but we never want to dismiss a woman’s complaint because we have been dismissed so much but it does not feel right. I can not do body language interrogation but can see things that don’t fall into almost everyone of the people I have ever worked with . Idk makes me sad because it is so highly publicized and hope it does not set things back for survivors!
Everyone on this planet is obsessed with sex except you?
@@xoxolivgrace Thank you, and yes it's so encouraging and I'm so glad that the conversation is expanding to include all victims now, it makes me so happy ❤️
It’s people like that that start wars and chaos. Imagine what someone this rotten would do with more power.
Maybe Amber should have taken acting classes before this trial. She is so certain she's smarter and better than everyone. This drives me nuts as I've had PTSD for years from abuse and an attempted murder/ kidnapping. This woman is so full of it! Watching a movie can trigger memories from 40 years ago! I get sick and shaky and feel faint after 40 years! I hate women who pull this and then say they're speaking for abused and sexually assaulted women! It's disgraceful. She's not speaking for me!
As a DV survivor it's strange that she triggers me but Johnny didn't
Me too x
As a survivor of DV, I felt insulted, and borderline violated, by her testimony. Her story sounds like she studied, was told, heard or read what she believes needs to be in a DV narrative. I spent seven years inside a fairly brutal relationship, sexual violence was involved. She does not present or retell, at least in my opinion, her experience in a way I would expect.
How about her 'perfect victim' comment in her Dateline interview? I am survivor of a much milder case of DV and I still have more trauma than she did in her testimony. It's insulting, disgusting and vile. She deserves everything negative that she's getting. Thank you very much for sharing. :)
Yeah, go to my responses above & tell @tanika ! Bc I have the same sentiment, she had the nerve to call me a misogynist, amongst other insults trying to defend that abusive woman. Unbelievable. With that response, sounds like she's reciting something she's read & not lived thru. I'm so disgusted by this woman & SHE set women back by lying for revenge of not getting what she wanted.
I feel the same way. I, too, survived a terribly abusive relationship, and it's infuriating that she's done, and is still doing this.
Later in the trial, on an audio recording, she very graphically describes, to him in the recording, the “hurt” him leaving her to visit his daughter for a couple of hours as physical hurt.
I actually had to turn off her testimony after a little while. It made me angry and it was disturbing. I felt sick to my stomach. I finished watching it later because I wanted to see her lies with my own eyes. You guys are right on with the female intuition.
I have also. For me it’s triggered so much anxiety which I thought I’d conquered. She’s a real piece of work. Thank goodness for the majority of good people who can recognise her evilness. 🙏
I absolutely 💯 👍 agree
When I see or even hear someone crying, I myself start to cry, cause I feel their sadness. This ain't it. If anything, I started getting goosebumps and feeling some anxiety because I actually felt scared of the kind of person she has to be in order to pull something like this.
Yeah I'd say I generally really care about people's feelings, but with her I only felt disgust and loathing and an incredible urge to be as far away from her as possible. Sending her to the moon isn't far away enough. Honestly, I find her a bit terrifying.
Oh, exactly. I'm not having an empathic reaction to her either. Oddly, I want to (out of benefit of the doubt or something) but can't. Instead it's all just grating.
As a woman who has been in an abusive relationship, I find her testimony to be the most phony thing I've ever seen. When I'm talking about my experiences I don't want to make eye contact with a dozen+ strangers... I dont get more animated, I shrink in. I don't want to continually look at my abuser over and over again. She is not acting like the victim here.
I disagree about one thing... she certainly is acting. Horribly.
I totally agree. I suppose everyone reacts differently but, even though it has been many years since I escaped my situation, I still weep. I have never been histrionic, just quietly very sad. Only after twenty years I am able to talk and admit it happened. I think my biggest emotions were shame and embarrassment (that I stayed)
It's the hardest thing in to world to talk about for me ....! I can't even imagine trying to describe in detail everything at one time. I couldn't do it. It's too much for me . I
You can’t judge someone else’s behaviour because it’s different from yours! Sad you haven’t learned that from living in a abusive relationship. It’s like when raped women doesn’t get believed because they don’t act like society think they should act. And women are always judged harder. Reading the comments here are frightening.
@@helluicki hey everyone it's a Amber Turd believer.
I'm a DV survivor. She is just an awful woman. You guys do your lie detection by watching body language.
I don't have to go that. I can tell she's lieing from my own experiences. There's a certain amount of shame we (DV survivors) have after being beaten. We feel shame, sadness, humiliation.
We have trouble holding eye contact if we have to talk and tell someone what happened.
Not Amber, she constantly aims her answers to the jury. She preaches to them, holds eye contact. She basically stares the jury down as she describes a bottle (supposedly) being violently inserted in her lower area. A real victim/ Survivor cannot easily talk about the things done to us, we are embarrassed.
The other thing that tells me she's lieing is how she describes her injuries.
She talks of makeup covering everything up after a beating, black eyes, broken noses etc.
I'm disabled now bc of what I lived through. After an experience bruises don't always start immediately. So make may not be needed until a day or two later when the bruises are dark. You can't cover up the swelling you have after being hit in the face and head. You get hit in the eye hard enough, your skin puffs out around your eyes with fluid filled blister like bags under your eye and above your eye. Makeup doesn't cover that. If your lip is split open you can't cover that.
The last thing that verifies her lies. When she tells of the table with the box of cocaine and using tampon applicators to snort it with.
Any person who has been around coked up people and who used to use too laughs at the idea that table said "drug addict".
If there had truly been a box of coke and people were doing lines or smoking it... The table would be a mess the ashtrays would be full of cigg butt's bc most people chain smoke when high.
Those glasses of beer wouldn't be do close to the coke bc you don't Want your coke to get wet.
Those glasses are full of beer. Also I doubt JD was snorting through a tampon applicator. Even if he don't have a straw he'd use money or just a rolled up piece of paper. So that's my lie detector.... Her mockery of domestic violence is appalling. Once again she's an awful excuse for a human being.
This. As someone haunted by the empty eyes I saw when it happened, her testimony is a slap in the f ing face. I couldn't look my new partner in the eye for a year. It's been 8 years, and I am still scared to experience conflict. At my job, with my family. When someone accidentally hit my car recently, I froze and couldn't confront them about the damage. Still doing therapy. Her story is infuriating.
I was an ER nurse for over 20 years and have spoken with many victims of domestic violence, and have never seen this type of recount. I have heard she gave the performance of her life. I would say a bad one. Way over the top, especially after so many years passing since the incident.
She said “ this changed my life forever”, but went ahead and married him.
Bring it!!! All this cow saw was, fame, money, lifestyle, and becoming somebody.
JD had a horrible upbringing. I think he married Heard because she is so much like his mother's personality and if he could get this conscious void creature to love/accept him he would finally have his mother's love. So he has some real issues that need intense therapy. His mom is gone now and he did well by her in spite of the way she parented/treated him. Amber needs to be gone too and she is sinking her own boat.
I am a woman who has been through sexual assault and domestic abuse and while I know that not all victims behave or react in exactly the same way, I can tell you that y’all were spot on when you suggested that women who have been through this would likely feel intuitively that her stories feel “off”.
I have shared my painful stories with 2 different therapists over many years, and EVEN in a one-on-one safe space with a women I emotionally trusted, I couldn’t even look my own therapists in the face when recounting my stories. Y’all were right about how you “go inward” when sharing these traumas.
She is doing the performance of her life for that jury and I hope they can see what all the women like me see.
YES!!! I've always made myself as small as possible and I don't even look someone in the eye. I feel like they can look right through me and see what had happened to me. Like they can see the images in my head. If that makes sense.
Gosh, I’m so sorry to hear you experienced this - thanks for validating what I was picking up on - I hate that you have experience with dv but so much appreciate you sharing your insights
I am the same. I always look down. Maintaining Eye contact is impossible when I am recalling the abuse I experienced. I can’t imagine ever being able to do what AH did in that Courtroom with those Jurors.
Her account of the sexual abuse was graphic and shocking. So shocking that it’s not believable she can recount anything without covering her eyes or at least closing them. But that is a good point- everyone reacts/behaves differently.
I’m sorry you had to go through this! You are very strong for sharing it with your therapists and in this comment. 🫂
I usually cry actual tears and get choked up with the most basic things. Puppy videos? I cry. Cute babies doing cute things? I cry. And while she was telling the most gruesome details I just felt nothing, not a single tear. I can't tell why, but I can't connect with her.
Me, too. I think it’s menopause. I cried hearing a Sesame Street song from my childhood today. No tears for Amber, though
Wow, Johnny Depp is so rich he has floors made out of actual parakeets
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Hahahahahaha I LOVE IT. THATS GOOD. THATS GOOD...
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As a true survivor of domestic violence,she seems like someone who actually believes her own lies and has dug herself a hole so deep she will never find a way out.
💯TRUE..
Exactly !!
Domestic abuse is a series of painful beatings which destroy the victim's self-concept and incites trauma and fear. Facing your abuser is difficult. She displays absolutely no fear, just defiance, and disdain. This is just plain spite.
My husband punched me in the head. I do not remember if the carpet was clean or dirty. I remember the devastation
I'm sorry :( hope you are in a better place now!
12:39 INNER EYE ROLL 🙄!I want to peel my face off 😱listening to this poor attempt at drama. As a woman who has been abused, this is very hard for me to believe. Not only does the "bad acting" give her away but her story makes zero sense!
My ex husband smashed a mirror when I was in the bath and it fell into the water. I froze, didn’t slide about all over it. I was terrified. I can’t recognise domestic abuse in her narrative and cannot believe or empathise with what she says. I am hugely protective of other women who have been treated badly but this sits uncomfortably with me.
Whoa, smashed a mirror while you were in the bath, omg, I froze when I read that. Yes, you would freeze, your mind stopped on the spot. Omg, how not to injure yourself. Is he coming back with something else/worse, which way to move or not move, OMG!!! I am so sorry you experienced that and more. I am so glad you are out of that life-threatening situation.
This cow has not seen or experienced domestic violence or sexual abuse!!!!! She's thinking out of a movie script mind where she is the main character and the stunt double and waiting for the director to say CUT!!!
I’m a woman. I’m a survivor. She’s a liar.
I have PTSD, and I 100% agree with you guys, it doesn’t feel authentic, it doesn’t read in the body language in a way that is understandable. Think it’s awesome what you guys do, and it makes me so sad that someone would come out and say they have this and take away from true survivors.
I've heard that narcissistic abuse causes PTSD and I'm currently still having to put up with it because I can't escape my abuser as she's the mother of my child (a covert narcissist) and I wonder if I have ptsd or not. I already have other issues such as ADHD and autism and the anxiety and depression so it's hard to know if I have it or not but it does cause me a lot of stress. I'm glad the public opinion of her is what it is because these type of people crave the attention of believing they're victims. I just want this case to be over with now and her to be exposed and have to lay in the bed she's made for herself. I hope you can recover from your trauma because it's awful. Good day to you.
Parakeet flooring? Did she mean parquet flooring?
Yes, she did, hylarious isn't it 😂 😂
Not so smart, is She!!!!!
Yes! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I am 62 years old. And have lived a colorful life yall.. but I have Never said these words. "I finally Landed a blow to his face" when talking about Any of my ex husbands.. Is amber Heard a cage fighter on the side? I can't wait to watch Camille Mop that "Parakeet floor" up with her this week!!! I know She had to have read that one and memorized it.. nobody calls a parquet floor a Parakeet floor.. 😆 I almost got embarrassed for her.. But I wholeheartedly love and support Johnny Depp!!! I absolutely love Yall The Behavior Panel. Yall are spot on!!!! 👌
😂 funny turn of phrase. Sharp.
As a woman, yes, I felt extremly uncomfortable during her testimony. Those past years I've been very skeptical about her allegations because I've been following JD's career for more than 20 years and I seriously couldn't match DV with what anyone would say about him. I lived in Paris for 15 years and some of my schoolmates lived right next to him and his wife and the stories were Always about a perfect gentleman. But I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt, because sometimes we really don't get what's going on behind closed doors. The tapes and the testimony had been enough to convince me she's not sincere, her testimony was so embarassing, I really don't get how She thinks she's outsmarting everyone but I've seen teenage perpetrators doing a Better job at lying.
Interesting input about your Paris schoolmate’s input! 👍🏻
Well said . Kudos
Yes...embarrassing! And calls into question the statements of real victims of abuse...actually doing great harm to the movement she's supposedly supporting.
@michelle32855, I totally agree. That's what keeps me from feeling sorry for her, the fact that now real abuse victims will be met with skepticism even when they have legitimate problems, and I happen to know a few. But I would ALMOST feel sorry for her because her obsessive need to be loved is quite pathetic really. Anyone who would stoop to this level is mentally sick.
One thing that really caught my attention was when she talked about JD slamming her against a wall and calling her an "embarrassment". This was on their island, and I was watching it live with my wife. I immediately turned to her and said, "she is more upset at being called an embarrassment than she was getting thrown against a wall!" That's when I decided she was a narcissist.
Everyone dislikes you, you embarrassment meaning you're not good enough. 😐 classic degradation to keep a woman low ans weak. Ie under control.
I agree. And that reflects that she skipped over Maslow's hierarchy with one being physiological needs. 2. Safety. 3. Belonging love 4. Is self esteem. So like you said her being embarrassed well that goes with her self esteem. So she doesn't make fear or safety a priority. Which being in trauma your fight, flight or freeze activated, I wouldn't be concerned about my feelings but more so am I going to have to fight or get the heck outta here? So that is a great observation!!👌💯👍
@@valn.6584 To be honest, most of her testimony was more about how she felt as far as her image vs the actual physical issues. She also seems to think that because she believed she couldn't hurt JD, then there is no way she could commit DV against him. Us men are caught in a Catch 22. If we fight back to defend ourselves, we are wife beaters. If we call the cops and file a report, we are ridiculed for letting a woman beat us up. I just hope the jury sees the same thing we see. Her overacting of trying to get emotional was almost laughable. I couldn't tell if she was having seizure, having an allergic reaction, or if she was trying to show an emotion. Plus the speed with which switches between emotions was absolutely incredible. You can't switch that fast between real emotions.
@@kevinashley478 I agree 💯! I hope this gets more Men to come forward who are the victims of violence! A woman has no right to hit a man just as no man has the right to hit a woman. But I think Amber Heard is a spoiled brat. She is a narcissist and definitely more concerned with her image. But I just think she is a cold, callous, shallow and calculated woman. She will repeat this behavior again. Narcissist's don't change!
In my opinion, her lawyers most likely guided her. However, AH was probably a really difficult client and dismissed advice. She thought her acting was superior.
I am a woman and a psychotherapist (with 35 years of experience) and I do not find Amber Heard credible at all. I’ve treated survivors of abuse as well as individuals with personality disorders. Watching her and listening to her made me very uncomfortable and nauseated. When her testimony is contrasted with the available audiotapes, it is all the more unbelievable.
I'm an older lady, normally a sucker in that I believe alot of people that are later proven to have lied. I've never seen anyone less believable, especially given that she's an actress. I feel manipulated just listening to her.
I'm an abuse survivor and my instinct was to feel VERY uncomfortable watching Amber Heard... it goes against everything I've felt before... the pain of listening to a survivor reliving their horror as they talk... yet, with Amber, I felt nothing. I cried during Johnny's testimony. That's the difference. Something feels very off with Amber and I think it's everything to do with what the guys have said.
I got that uneasy feeling when I watched her give her testimony. It just felt so fake.
Imagine the narcissism it took for her to think we would all fall for this nonsense. The disrespect she has for actual DV victims is SICKENING.
Like many folks I've watched every minute of this trial thus far, and from the minute AH opened her mouth i thought - Good God !!! The Behaviour Panel guys have got enough material here to last a year dissecting this persons body language - good luck finding her baseline guys - she's all over the place !!
Her baseline isn't in court. At all... maybe forgetful moments when she forgets she's watched. She's putting on an act this whole time (I'd say impressive but.. well you've seen it...) she's dedicated to her fabrication at least.
@@allegrac230 if what Depp’s psychologist says about her is true, honestly without treatment she doesn’t have one. Untreated Borderlines don’t have a true sense of self and their moods are liable as are their opinions of people.
Lying, lying. As a woman who experienced dv my whole body is telling me she's lying like crazy. I caught this one regarding his slap...it wasn't he slapped me, it was slapped me. Distancing? Terrible, despicable performance. She's definitely not right in the head. How can anyone allege such things. No conscience.
You guys are amazing. Maintaining your professionalism while thinking she is a lying, manipulating fool. Keep it all coming. Love your shoes.
As a woman, I see she’s quite dishonest. I find her testimony so insincere. It IS difficult to watch her tell her “stories”! As a survivor of abuse myself, I can almost feel and oddly seem to know other domestic abuse survivors. Amber in no way comes across as an abused victim.
Rather the opposite. She’s the abuser who thinks that you can’t live without her, you need her
Agreed
She is so used to manipulating people, she seems unprepared for scrutiny or criticism.
As someone who has heard court testimony from abuse victims, Amber Heard doesn't sound much like them. As someone who has heard testimony from abusers trying to explain to a judge why their partners deserved it, she sounds uncannily identical to that.
Thank you for sharing. That’s fascinating, but not surprising.
Exactly!
So uncomfortable to watch someone trying to destroy someone elses life with so many terrible awful lies
I am a survivor of domestic violence and have been choked around my neck. I couldn’t swallow without pain for three months. She never one time mentions it being difficult to swallow or that her throat hurt the next day or any symptoms of the pain that she said she endured by his hand, except headaches. She is giving me a headache. Thank you for posting this video you guys are doing a great job!
Sorry that happened to you.
It is heartbreaking to read so many comments from people who have experienced dv and assalt. Its more common than people realise. I am sorry you had to go through that.
As a person who’s worked very hard to get through PTSD I find Ms. Heard’s performance insulting.
Just to give you all chills, this woman has just recently become a mother and is solo raising a young daughter!... Can you imagine the future that child has ahead of her?? :/
I wonder if she knew that no one would believe her once he actually had to get on the stand and that’s why she had the baby now to garner sympathy
That’s hilarious and apt 🤣: “Every flaw, every bad behaviour, every possible hint of at ever having made a mistake in her lifetime, is absent. She’s giving us a story of a flawless Disney Princess, who lived with Satan.”
Yes as a woman I have a disturbing gut feeling that something is very very wrong when she speaks. Im feeling red flags go up on an intuitive level, through her entire story. I grew up with a parent with borderline personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder, and this is exactly what both of those look like when combined together.
This performance is insulting to real survivors of domestic violence.
Most disturbing testimony I've seen. She's frightening. I would not want to be left alone with her.
Who laughs after being slapped and expects the aggressor also to laugh . It's so weird and noticeable how she makes the stories up.
As a woman, it is very uncomfortable to listen to her. I feel embarrassment for what appears to me to be bad acting. I get the sense she is trying to manipulate and deceive the "audience" which is upsetting. And I feel very sad for everything Johnny has gone through since getting involved with her and continues to go through with every word she says.
My husband's ex is very much like Amber so that also brings up a lot of negative experiences we've had with her so it isn't hard to imagine what Johnny's life was like with her.
Yes, I felt embarrassment watching it for her and maybe because she's a woman, In the end her dramatics are so over the top and hard to watch I had to stop watching, it became painful and a waste of time, why sit and listen to someone whose most every word out of her mouth is a lie? wasting everyone's time.
I watched the trial live and she was totally unbelievable. I was actually repulsed by her behavior. Seeing it again makes me even more uncomfortable. She is in desperate need of serious help.
Watching her testimony makes me feel physically ill. It’s that wrong, it makes me feel sick to my stomach.
Yep it makes my skin crawl
Agreed
It's creepy even if you watch her on mute.
So true! You don't even have to be a real survivor to recognize how off everything was. And her testimony in the UK trial was even more extreme.
Me too.
I’ll tell you why people have had such an overwhelming negative response to her….these lovely gentlemen are having to tread sooo carefully with their words because she’s claiming to be an abused woman. And we all know men couldn’t/can’t call out or question a female dv victim. She knows this & weaponized it. She is a disgrace & this should follow her for the rest of her life. Consequences.
Biggest issue for me as a survivor. She says she took a bunch of sleeping tablets (to knock herself out) and went to sleep in the marital bed. She made herself completely physically available to his every whim by making herself available and unconscious. Why is she not leaving the house, barracading herself in a room, staying awake all night to make sure he doesn't touch her again. You have to have an enormous level of trust in someone to be able to take sleeping tablets and share a bed with someone. It took me many years and counselling before I was able. AH does it minutes after an alleged rape with her rapist. It doesn't add up.
Absolutely right!!! you can trust anymore
I've spent nights in fear, trying to stay awake so I wouldn't be touched. Sleep leaves you vulnerable, drugged sleep leaves you seriously vulnerable because you can't wake up properly and sleeping tablets impair memory. He could literally have had done anything he liked to her and she couldn't have stopped him. As I said you gotta seriously trust someone to sleep with them on sleeping tablets.
Sort of jokingly
The biggest issue for me is that damn pink water bottle. At the end of her second day of testimony, just about every single time, she turns directly to the jury and drinks followed by lip licks. The third day, after she realizes her new PR Firm won't work either, she sets her full bright pink bottle on the right turning directly at the jury every time she drinks followed by lip licks. It's truly unnerving. I suspect she's attempting to seduce a juror or two.
@@sunnysnod7483 so sorry you suffered. I hope you stay with a path of recovery 💕
Female here… something’s definitely “not right”. This really angers us that have truly been abused. Women, and men who have been abused, should be able to speak about it, but please don’t exaggerate… be totally honest about what’s happened. When you aren’t totally honest about the abuse, especially since she’s in the public eye and it’s being televised worldwide, you do a huge disservice to those of us who have been abused because lies tend to catch up with you and come to light.
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Agreed ❤️
Having read comments by victims of d.a., this has hurt so many people. The moment of truth: "He wished he'd never met me." - That's why all of this is happening. He is still forced to deal with her, be in the same room with her, listen to her. She is still trying to control him. She still tries to take over his life. She won't let go. Which also fits certain personality types.
So true. As a survivor of assault who copes with the aftereffects, it is sad that someone would use the suffering of others as her training manual to enable causing her victim prolonged discomfort. So twisted. My cat who likes to bat wounded lizards around doesn't take the torture to such heights...
Absolutely this.
Yes, that was my initial thought.
Someone doesn't just become an abusive monster in their 50's. Not a hint of abuse JDs entire life in the spotlight but suddenly he becomes horrifically abusive with AH? Gimme a break.
One major contradiction I haven’t heard many people talking about happened during her story of the tattoo slaps. She starts by saying it was “so insignificant” and then in the same breath says she “will never forget it” because it “changed my life”. You can’t have an event be insignificant AND life changing.
Also, as an extremely empathetic person, I find myself crying every single time I see someone cry. But watching Amber’s behavior has just left me feeling uncomfortably incredulous. Never once have my instincts responded to her bizarre antics. It’s simply and purely..... off; just wrong. And I went into this completely expecting that she was telling the truth. Well, my expectations have completely reversed as more and more of her bizarre behavior just alienates me further.
Thanks for these in depth breakdowns. It’s very helpful and interesting.
you're so right (esp referring to your first paragraph)
I have said the same thing, usually I get very emotional watching people get emotional and telling their story but I was extremely uncomfortable watching her, to the point I had to look away multiple times. I felt embarrassed for her and just wanted her to stop talking.
I felt the exact same thing. Something was very off and wrong. I have a lot of empathy hearing these kind of things. I had no emotional reaction to what she was saying except maybe second hand embarrassment. I didn’t believe anything she said in regards to the violence. I could believe some of the jealousy and the drinking/drugs he admits that himself. On the whole it’s clear she was lying.
I am usually highly sensitive to people’s feelings and emotions - however I’m receiving nothing when AH is talking and crying. I am actually cringing and finding it very hard to watch and listen to her.
Like wise - in fact I have a very strong averse, negative reaction when I listen to her for too long.
There's something, some false note in her emotionless wailing - it makes my skin crawl.
I am a woman and regard myself as being very perceptive and intuitive. Her testimony is not convincing, I am a DV survivor and a lot of what she says resonates with me but her delivery is off.......she has done a lot of research!!!!
same. It was very similar to what I experienced, but I wouldn't speak about it in those ways- I also have actual tears when I really go in to detail.
How hard it must be for Johny to have listen to her lies.
She drove him too relapse
And, yes I listened as a woman. As a woman who has experienced trauma and lives with true PTSD, I found it impossible to believe 85% of what she testified to...and that's scary to think of. She's a professional malingering con artist who is finally being exposed.
Yes, me too, totally unbelievable, it's scary people run around being so manipulative, I totally agree 👍
Greg's comment about the hypervigilance was dead on, she mentions none of the primary symptoms of PTSD due to victimization, no anxiety, stress, perpetual concern for safety, or the spikes of fear that arise in situations that reflect the trauma. You're always on the lookout.
@@jenniferlynnbecker2234 You are so right! It’s impossible to sleep comfortably, especially with fear (ptsd does not sleep) and not Always be vigilant of one’s own fear of what could happen once one “happens” to hopefully Not fall asleep. One doesn’t go pop sleeping pills when too scared and having to build a barricade against the- one of many access points to you! This testimony has me saying she’s sold her soul to the Devil and he’s arrived for early payment! So sad!
@@jenniferlynnbecker2234 oh heck yes. 😳 walking through parking lots, head up, get into my vehicle. Hit that lock button immediately. No checking phone..just go. Restaurant's? Sit with my back to the wall. I even am moving my office into my living room, because even though I have an alarm system, I hate being in a closed room., where I can't see/hear the front door being messed with. Don't get me wrong, I don't live a miserable life. I've adjusted to my hypervigilance.
Funny, ,( not really) but my adult kids saw me at Walmart when I had just gotten into my truck. My daughter is always playful, and didn't think, was just being ornery, and yes she's aware of what has happened to me.
She spotted me, and ran over ( we live in a small-ish town) and ran up and started slapping my window while yelling. Scared the living crap out of me, bad. I screamed so loud, and my arms were flailing, that I scared HER half to death. She said ( once I gave her the Mothers "death stare") " Omg, MOM, I'm SO SORRY! Ithought you were going to have a heart attack!" .
I opened the window and her S.O. yelled at her, " Geez! You trying to kill your Mom or yourself"?! (He knows I've had Firearm training) " You're lucky she didn't shoot your ass!".
Which I DO carry, but I'd NEVER pull a weapon while in a panic. I've Trained until muscle memory is there. Being that startled is NOT the time to pull a weapon. Mace? Yes. Weapon , NO.
She DID learn just how much the years of abuse affected me, though. I truly felt bad that she was so upset, by nothing more than playing around.
My belaboured point? It never leaves you. The constant awareness . Things Ike intense Yoga, and Tai Chi routines each day help a LOT.
I am with you . The relationship was toxic but the abuse is a whole mother story!!!
How does she expect people to believe that she walked and fell on glass NAKED and not be rushed to the ER
OMG!!! Right!!!!???
Walked, fell, dragged over by a madman. Ha ha, oh God!
I am a woman and my feeling is everything is off with her testimony....her choice of words, her expressions, her pauses, her emotions, her tone. I regard myself as very empathic so should be really emotional watching a domestic violence testimony, but i feel nothing. That tells me something is really wrong ! It is like listening to a radio station that isn't tuned in and nothing makes sense.
I feel the sane.
Oh, 100%! I cried during his friend Isaac's testimony, I cried when he said she burned a cigarette out on his face, shoot...I even cried once trying to compliment the guy working at Discount Tire for hooking me up in high school. All I could feel for her testimony was a cold disgust.
This is how an abuser looks like when you hold them accountable. abusers rely on having a free pass in doing and violating whatever boundary they feel should not be there.
She has trauma, that’s certain, but it has not come from Johnny. I believe she’s burying something from her past. I’m sickened, being a survivor (of a life altering abuse cycle) that she can lie like this. She is, in no way, afraid of him. She’s not well…not well at all. However, it does not excuse her from this.
Do you think she may have possibly been trafficked as a child ?
@@talkytalker5662 no,she would have told about that.Don’t give her any ideas,please.
@@talkytalker5662 Definitely not. She has a history of being abusive, and of stealing other's abuse stories to sound more credible. Either she has never been abused, or she has very, very early childhood trauma (usually so early the person doesn't quite remember). Trauma can cause BPD/HPD, but it's not required to occur.
What Scott said and he says often about women having a second sense is so right especially women that have experienced actual abuse-Like a frightened dog who shivers quakes holds their tail close to their body in the presence of a wicked owner, people who have been abused recognize in her the abuser - Is instinctual and visceral
As a woman, her testimony makes my blood boil. If the jury can’t see thru this BS, god help us.
“I’ve seen the Health Class videos.”
I almost died when she said that right after she described being beaten.
I am eagerly awaiting cross with her! May justice be served.
That health class video comment got me too. I laughed!
Can u explain this comment? I couldn't watch her entire testimony so im lost but I want to know. Lol
Im very empathetic and i have literally no empathy towards her story when watching. I just dont believe anything she says. Its hard to listen to someone telling such horrific abuse & just not believe them . Watch with the sound off. She's completely lying
If even she wasn’t lying… (which she is)… she’s really trying to sound like a bullshitting bafoon!! Like GIRL … you’re an actress… you can’t do better than that?!! 🤣
Does she not hear herself??
But that’s what happens with these types of people… they can lie and string you along… but once they are FORCED to answer questions at length THEY ALWAYS end up showing how stupid their stories and lies are. ITS MUCH HARDER..For them to manipulate and use tactics when they have to answer for things. And she’s so used to weaseling her way out of that scenario in life…. That now she’s proving how incompetent she is at getting her way. Delusions of grandeur… she believes in her ability to fool everyone.. like we’re all stupid idiots 🙄
Not so smug now are ya Amber?!
I cry at tv ads, this, I felt nothing 🤷🏻♀️ nothing made sense, nothing felt honest, she always answers like a politician
I grew up in DV home and experienced it several times in relationships as an adult and all I thought was ‘will she ever stop talking’. She didn’t trigger any emotions in me at all and I usually empathize with victims .🤷🏼♀️